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Whats in a name? BBC to WEBM...
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Should the term BBC (Big Black Cock) ‘autocorrect’ on Fab to WEBM (Well Endowed Black Man)?
Its one of the few labelling terms I see on fab that is so reductist and causes devision. Some like being described as BBC others don’t. All the other acronyms and labelling terms still give some humanity to the phrase such as BBW - Big Beautiful Woman, Hot wife, Sugar Daddy.
Requests on here often stated meeting a BBC, what about the rest of the person? Is the penis supposed to detach itself from the man? Is porn to blame for the attitude and terminology?
I’d like to hear other thoughts and opinions. Some folk probs couldn't give a toss because its just sex, preference or taboo. Would WEBM be a kinder term to use? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think people should be free to use whatever label they choose about themselves, if they’re comfortable with it, who am I or anyone else to tell them they can’t use it?
Of course, if it happens to not be big, there would be disappointment but hey ho!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've seen a couple of BWCs (W=White) on here... Mentioning size at all is such a turn-off for me but I completely hear you on BBC being gross. Where are the acronyms and things for those who are smaller?! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’ve traveled around the world twice and noticed a few things....
In America the term Asian = represents Korean, Chinese, Japanese and people from southern China/ Indo pacific nations....
Using The term oriental to describe someone’s race/ethnicity in America is considered highly offensive...
In the UK the word Asian = people from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Sri Lanka....
Calling someone Oriental is perfectly exceptable to describe someone’s race from the Far East...
I find it totally inappropriate for me or anyone to judge a society’s social morays by my own standards.....
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"Should the term BBC (Big Black Cock) ‘autocorrect’ on Fab to WEBM (Well Endowed Black Man)?
Its one of the few labelling terms I see on fab that is so reductist and causes devision. Some like being described as BBC others don’t. All the other acronyms and labelling terms still give some humanity to the phrase such as BBW - Big Beautiful Woman, Hot wife, Sugar Daddy.
Requests on here often stated meeting a BBC, what about the rest of the person? Is the penis supposed to detach itself from the man? Is porn to blame for the attitude and terminology?
I’d like to hear other thoughts and opinions. Some folk probs couldn't give a toss because its just sex, preference or taboo. Would WEBM be a kinder term to use? "
Well said, when I've tried to have this conversation before people often assume it's my objection to a racial description rather than men of a certain colour being stereotyped and objectified as 'cocks' |
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"Whatever name you use, someone somewhere will be offended! 
Forgot to add that some people actually seem to enjoy being offended on the behalf of others, they see it as a badge of honour!  "
I guess we'd still be shoving children up chimneys if that view had any resonance. |
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"I’ve traveled around the world twice and noticed a few things....
In America the term Asian = represents Korean, Chinese, Japanese and people from southern China/ Indo pacific nations....
Using The term oriental to describe someone’s race/ethnicity in America is considered highly offensive...
In the UK the word Asian = people from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Sri Lanka....
Calling someone Oriental is perfectly exceptable to describe someone’s race from the Far East...
I find it totally inappropriate for me or anyone to judge a society’s social morays by my own standards.....
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The OP may correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think her point is about using descriptions which describe race. |
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
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If a man wants to use BBC as part of his username or on his profile that’s his right if he is comfortable with it I guess that is what really matters. I am thinking of changing my username and when I asked for suggestions on a thread I started one reply was Greek Stallion my reply was we have people on Fabs using Black Stallion , White Stallion , Italian Stallion so why not Greek Stallion.The way I see it If your comfortable using abbreviations like BBC , BBW , Stallion , Hotwife in your username or profile then go for it it’s no ones business but yours. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This is a sex site. Political correctness isn’t weighing heavily on most people’s mind minds when they decide to join.
Perhaps the easily offended should find something else to entertain themselves. It seems quite obvious to me if someone happens to mention bbc, not many people will feel objectified.
What about men who describe themselves as bbc? Do they need to be re-educated? What about women who describe themselves as bbw? Where does it end? |
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"This is a sex site. Political correctness isn’t weighing heavily on most people’s mind minds when they decide to join.
Perhaps the easily offended should find something else to entertain themselves. It seems quite obvious to me if someone happens to mention bbc, not many people will feel objectified.
What about men who describe themselves as bbc? Do they need to be re-educated? What about women who describe themselves as bbw? Where does it end? "
The problem is it becomes short hand to describe black males generally.
You use the example of BBW, used to describe beautiful larger ladies, but the acronym refers to them as women, not their genitals.
Incidentally denouncing people trying to have a civilised conversation who have a different view to yours by calling them 'easily offended' is disingenuous.
In my opinion the OP started a rational argument about a complex subject (race, sex, stereotypes and society) and clearly stated her case coherently. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is a sex site. Political correctness isn’t weighing heavily on most people’s mind minds when they decide to join.
Perhaps the easily offended should find something else to entertain themselves. It seems quite obvious to me if someone happens to mention bbc, not many people will feel objectified.
What about men who describe themselves as bbc? Do they need to be re-educated? What about women who describe themselves as bbw? Where does it end?
The problem is it becomes short hand to describe black males generally.
You use the example of BBW, used to describe beautiful larger ladies, but the acronym refers to them as women, not their genitals.
Incidentally denouncing people trying to have a civilised conversation who have a different view to yours by calling them 'easily offended' is disingenuous.
In my opinion the OP started a rational argument about a complex subject (race, sex, stereotypes and society) and clearly stated her case coherently."
Sorry I can’t agree. I don’t know anyone who uses bbc to generalise black men. That’s an absurd thing to say.
What about black men who use the term?
It is a very complicated area. So, do you have a solution? I don’t think anyone does. |
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Half the people will agree
Half the people won't personally I think it's a debate I see on this site millions of times and it just causes agro , if a man wants to label himself as a bbc then that's his personal prefrence, if you don't like the term them you don't use it.
Unfortunately their is no right and wrong answer.
Do I think it should be auto corrected not in my opinion but others will feel diffrent. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’ve traveled around the world twice and noticed a few things....
In America the term Asian = represents Korean, Chinese, Japanese and people from southern China/ Indo pacific nations....
Using The term oriental to describe someone’s race/ethnicity in America is considered highly offensive...
In the UK the word Asian = people from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Sri Lanka....
Calling someone Oriental is perfectly exceptable to describe someone’s race from the Far East...
I find it totally inappropriate for me or anyone to judge a society’s social morays by my own standards.....
The OP may correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think her point is about using descriptions which describe race."
Please correct me if I’m wrong..... but she is asking people to change a societal term to fit her standards.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I’ve traveled around the world twice and noticed a few things....
In America the term Asian = represents Korean, Chinese, Japanese and people from southern China/ Indo pacific nations....
Using The term oriental to describe someone’s race/ethnicity in America is considered highly offensive...
In the UK the word Asian = people from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Sri Lanka....
Calling someone Oriental is perfectly exceptable to describe someone’s race from the Far East...
I find it totally inappropriate for me or anyone to judge a society’s social morays by my own standards.....
The OP may correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think her point is about using descriptions which describe race.
Please correct me if I’m wrong..... but she is asking people to change a societal term to fit her standards...."
That’s the way I took it too.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Please correct me if I’m wrong..... but she is asking people to change a societal term to fit her standards...."
The terms ‘should’ and ‘would’ still give an element of choice. Should you eat 5 kilos of cement? Logical answer no but you can still decide to do it anyway. Same applies here: should it auto correct? Would WEBM or WEWM be a kinder time to use? Ive presented it as an attempt at a debate on an open forum. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Please correct me if I’m wrong..... but she is asking people to change a societal term to fit her standards....
The terms ‘should’ and ‘would’ still give an element of choice. Should you eat 5 kilos of cement? Logical answer no but you can still decide to do it anyway. Same applies here: should it auto correct? Would WEBM or WEWM be a kinder time to use? Ive presented it as an attempt at a debate on an open forum. "
I would have said it probably won't work because people won't adopt it. But the auto-correct idea is clever and might just make it become 'a thing'. |
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"I’ve traveled around the world twice and noticed a few things....
In America the term Asian = represents Korean, Chinese, Japanese and people from southern China/ Indo pacific nations....
Using The term oriental to describe someone’s race/ethnicity in America is considered highly offensive...
In the UK the word Asian = people from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Sri Lanka....
Calling someone Oriental is perfectly exceptable to describe someone’s race from the Far East...
I find it totally inappropriate for me or anyone to judge a society’s social morays by my own standards.....
The OP may correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think her point is about using descriptions which describe race.
Please correct me if I’m wrong..... but she is asking people to change a societal term to fit her standards...."
I'm not sure if that's the case, but my point in response to yours was you appeared to be referring to how various ethnicities describe themselves from a race perspective (forgive me if I've misread that), whereas the OP didn't appear to have an issue with that, after all in her new acronym B still stands for 'black', what's missing is the C for 'cock'!
I think she raises a valid point though, the term alienates lots of decent people (black and white), I know of white females here who won't consider black males who refer to themselves that way and erudite black males who won't consider white women/couples who describe black men as 'BBCs', because it reduces them to the lowest denominator..their genitals.
I remember a black guy referring to a playful interchange he had with a white couple who stated they weren't looking for 'BBC', he contacted them on the basis he was black but didn't have a big cock, their response was they didn't meet blacks, seemingly unable to appreciate that black men don't necessarily have to be defined by their cocks!
Ultimately it's of course a matter of choice, but the OPs suggestion 'Well Endowed Black Male' (WEBM) would work for everyone seeking fun with hung black men, without alienating any of them (hopefully)!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Isn’t webm/wewm the exact same thing as bbc/bwc? It seems there is still a reference to their penis?
..but at least it acknowledges they're human beings"
Forgive my stupidity. But this is a sex site.
Isn’t it supposed to be impersonal? I don’t think people want to meet someone for their personality? I can’t see a problem, but it’s always good to learn something new. |
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"Isn’t webm/wewm the exact same thing as bbc/bwc? It seems there is still a reference to their penis?
..but at least it acknowledges they're human beings
Forgive my stupidity. But this is a sex site.
Isn’t it supposed to be impersonal? I don’t think people want to meet someone for their personality? I can’t see a problem, but it’s always good to learn something new. "
I read a really interesting extract from an article posted by another member about the sexual objectification of black men, I'll try and find it, it is enlightening reading, believe me!
I don't really agree that this is a sex site, it's more complex than that for most swingers, and after all we're communicating on this forum which touches on many subjects, with contributions from a range of personalities with differing views and objectives..black men aren't really any different, yet the (porn created) BBC term dehumanises, in my opinion. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Isn’t webm/wewm the exact same thing as bbc/bwc? It seems there is still a reference to their penis?
..but at least it acknowledges they're human beings
Forgive my stupidity. But this is a sex site.
Isn’t it supposed to be impersonal? I don’t think people want to meet someone for their personality? I can’t see a problem, but it’s always good to learn something new.
I read a really interesting extract from an article posted by another member about the sexual objectification of black men, I'll try and find it, it is enlightening reading, believe me!
I don't really agree that this is a sex site, it's more complex than that for most swingers, and after all we're communicating on this forum which touches on many subjects, with contributions from a range of personalities with differing views and objectives..black men aren't really any different, yet the (porn created) BBC term dehumanises, in my opinion. "
Would I be wrong to say there is a vagueness to your pretext. It only applies in certain situations. If a black man posted on his status bbc he isn’t allowed to do that. Surely he would have the right because it’s his body? |
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"Isn’t webm/wewm the exact same thing as bbc/bwc? It seems there is still a reference to their penis?
..but at least it acknowledges they're human beings
Forgive my stupidity. But this is a sex site.
Isn’t it supposed to be impersonal? I don’t think people want to meet someone for their personality? I can’t see a problem, but it’s always good to learn something new. "
Hope this doesn't break forum rules, but it's worth a read, it's written by a gay black guy but the sentiment applies
https://metro.co.uk/2019/03/22/as-a-black-gay-man-i-am-constantly-reduced-to-outdated-racist-stereotypes-when-online-dating-8889330/
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"Isn’t webm/wewm the exact same thing as bbc/bwc? It seems there is still a reference to their penis?
..but at least it acknowledges they're human beings
Forgive my stupidity. But this is a sex site.
Isn’t it supposed to be impersonal? I don’t think people want to meet someone for their personality? I can’t see a problem, but it’s always good to learn something new.
I read a really interesting extract from an article posted by another member about the sexual objectification of black men, I'll try and find it, it is enlightening reading, believe me!
I don't really agree that this is a sex site, it's more complex than that for most swingers, and after all we're communicating on this forum which touches on many subjects, with contributions from a range of personalities with differing views and objectives..black men aren't really any different, yet the (porn created) BBC term dehumanises, in my opinion.
Would I be wrong to say there is a vagueness to your pretext. It only applies in certain situations. If a black man posted on his status bbc he isn’t allowed to do that. Surely he would have the right because it’s his body? "
I did say previously it's absolutely a matter of choice and preference, I don't believe it should be prescriptive but we can all learn something from a range of influences. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Isn’t webm/wewm the exact same thing as bbc/bwc? It seems there is still a reference to their penis?
..but at least it acknowledges they're human beings
Forgive my stupidity. But this is a sex site.
Isn’t it supposed to be impersonal? I don’t think people want to meet someone for their personality? I can’t see a problem, but it’s always good to learn something new.
I read a really interesting extract from an article posted by another member about the sexual objectification of black men, I'll try and find it, it is enlightening reading, believe me!
I don't really agree that this is a sex site, it's more complex than that for most swingers, and after all we're communicating on this forum which touches on many subjects, with contributions from a range of personalities with differing views and objectives..black men aren't really any different, yet the (porn created) BBC term dehumanises, in my opinion.
Would I be wrong to say there is a vagueness to your pretext. It only applies in certain situations. If a black man posted on his status bbc he isn’t allowed to do that. Surely he would have the right because it’s his body?
I did say previously it's absolutely a matter of choice and preference, I don't believe it should be prescriptive but we can all learn something from a range of influences."
I read the article. Quite interesting. And I have learned something. Nice talking with you. |
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"Isn’t webm/wewm the exact same thing as bbc/bwc? It seems there is still a reference to their penis?
..but at least it acknowledges they're human beings
Forgive my stupidity. But this is a sex site.
Isn’t it supposed to be impersonal? I don’t think people want to meet someone for their personality? I can’t see a problem, but it’s always good to learn something new.
I read a really interesting extract from an article posted by another member about the sexual objectification of black men, I'll try and find it, it is enlightening reading, believe me!
I don't really agree that this is a sex site, it's more complex than that for most swingers, and after all we're communicating on this forum which touches on many subjects, with contributions from a range of personalities with differing views and objectives..black men aren't really any different, yet the (porn created) BBC term dehumanises, in my opinion.
Would I be wrong to say there is a vagueness to your pretext. It only applies in certain situations. If a black man posted on his status bbc he isn’t allowed to do that. Surely he would have the right because it’s his body?
I did say previously it's absolutely a matter of choice and preference, I don't believe it should be prescriptive but we can all learn something from a range of influences.
I read the article. Quite interesting. And I have learned something. Nice talking with you. "
..and with you too, it's been a pleasure |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Very good post in this thread, but I would like to highlight the term personal preference.....
I as a black man would not like someone deciding what term is appropriate to describe myself....
For satire...... I’m going to give you a example...
I hate the term BBW = Big beautiful woman
I think the more appropriate term that should be used is OBW = Obese beautiful woman...
My reasoning for this new phrase is because the term BBW is hindering overweight women for living a healthy lifestyle and reducing them to only their body size ... making them a fetish....
People will promote this fetish by throwing themed parties for BBW’s and there is also a sub culture called feeders.. This is men dedicated to watching obese women eat enormous amounts of food and get sexual gratification from watching obese women get bigger....
So my new phrase OBW will still acknowledged a bigger woman is beautiful , but it will let anyone contacting these women know that these women are aware they are not living a healthy lifestyle and they have more to offer than their body size....
Now my opinion is......I have no right to speak for anyone but myself , on what is right or wrong to describe someone... it’s non of my business...
But since this is a open forum I’m sure my new term of OBW should be debated...... |
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
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"Very good post in this thread, but I would like to highlight the term personal preference.....
I as a black man would not like someone deciding what term is appropriate to describe myself....
For satire...... I’m going to give you a example...
I hate the term BBW = Big beautiful woman
I think the more appropriate term that should be used is OBW = Obese beautiful woman...
My reasoning for this new phrase is because the term BBW is hindering overweight women for living a healthy lifestyle and reducing them to only their body size ... making them a fetish....
People will promote this fetish by throwing themed parties for BBW’s and there is also a sub culture called feeders.. This is men dedicated to watching obese women eat enormous amounts of food and get sexual gratification from watching obese women get bigger....
So my new phrase OBW will still acknowledged a bigger woman is beautiful , but it will let anyone contacting these women know that these women are aware they are not living a healthy lifestyle and they have more to offer than their body size....
Now my opinion is......I have no right to speak for anyone but myself , on what is right or wrong to describe someone... it’s non of my business...
But since this is a open forum I’m sure my new term of OBW should be debated......"
. This is just a personal opinion but to me obese beautiful woman sounds worse than big beautiful woman |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I get plenty of mails from men saying they are a BBC. Some like it and some dont. If they want to call themselves that then I will call them that back. If they dont then I wont.
I have met up with a few black guys and I will wear a Queen of Spades Tattoo at their request and they love it but to some and that is considered to be even more offensive than the term BBC.
I have given up caring about offending people I will never meet in all honesty. People that want to be offended will be, no matter what I do.
I just care about the people I meet. |
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"Very good post in this thread, but I would like to highlight the term personal preference.....
I as a black man would not like someone deciding what term is appropriate to describe myself....
For satire...... I’m going to give you a example...
I hate the term BBW = Big beautiful woman
I think the more appropriate term that should be used is OBW = Obese beautiful woman...
My reasoning for this new phrase is because the term BBW is hindering overweight women for living a healthy lifestyle and reducing them to only their body size ... making them a fetish....
People will promote this fetish by throwing themed parties for BBW’s and there is also a sub culture called feeders.. This is men dedicated to watching obese women eat enormous amounts of food and get sexual gratification from watching obese women get bigger....
So my new phrase OBW will still acknowledged a bigger woman is beautiful , but it will let anyone contacting these women know that these women are aware they are not living a healthy lifestyle and they have more to offer than their body size....
Now my opinion is......I have no right to speak for anyone but myself , on what is right or wrong to describe someone... it’s non of my business...
But since this is a open forum I’m sure my new term of OBW should be debated......"
The theme of your post is spot on, folks should be able to describe themselves anyway they want to.
That said there are specific differences in what you focus on, the larger women and black men.
I've been into this lifestyle for maybe 20 years, when I first came into I was like a kid in a sweet shop..so many couples/women wanting NSA sex with black guys..who was I to complain!
But over time I found these same people talking about me only in terms of my genitals and what they think a black man would bring to the mix, a grunting, sexually aggressive 'bull cock'. (Yes I actually had this said to me!).
It became so bad that I took a hard look at myself, and realised there was more to me than relying on reductionist stereotypes that attach to black men that are promoted by white people (mainstream media and porn producers).
I hardly meet now but if I do I engage with people who can distinguish the man from the cock and regard my skin colour secondary to who I am, the value of encounters is significantly enhanced where all parties are treated with respect and understanding.
Ps I've been vilified before because of my username, I'm big (18 stone, black and I'm called Dom) before anyone asks! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Very good post in this thread, but I would like to highlight the term personal preference.....
I as a black man would not like someone deciding what term is appropriate to describe myself....
For satire...... I’m going to give you a example...
I hate the term BBW = Big beautiful woman
I think the more appropriate term that should be used is OBW = Obese beautiful woman...
My reasoning for this new phrase is because the term BBW is hindering overweight women for living a healthy lifestyle and reducing them to only their body size ... making them a fetish....
People will promote this fetish by throwing themed parties for BBW’s and there is also a sub culture called feeders.. This is men dedicated to watching obese women eat enormous amounts of food and get sexual gratification from watching obese women get bigger....
So my new phrase OBW will still acknowledged a bigger woman is beautiful , but it will let anyone contacting these women know that these women are aware they are not living a healthy lifestyle and they have more to offer than their body size....
Now my opinion is......I have no right to speak for anyone but myself , on what is right or wrong to describe someone... it’s non of my business...
But since this is a open forum I’m sure my new term of OBW should be debated......"
Absolutely agree.
I don’t agree with the idea of policing how others describe themselves, it’s not up to anyone else but that individual.
If it bothers some, they don’t have to talk to that person. There’s plenty of people to go around. |
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