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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I met a woman, turned out her husband was home and they had a hidden camera and when I confronted her she blocked me, worst bit is this is second time this has happened! Am i unlucky or is this a regular occurrence on here? Filming without consent? I think its just creepy tbh |
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By *izzy.Woman
over a year ago
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This is shocking. I have never heard of this being done, so I hope it's not a regular thing. Mind you I meet at clubs now, so feel safe. Report to admin. And maybe meet at clubs or hotels in future.
Don't let it put you off . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I met a woman, turned out her husband was home and they had a hidden camera and when I confronted her she blocked me, worst bit is this is second time this has happened! Am i unlucky or is this a regular occurrence on here? Filming without consent? I think its just creepy tbh"
Second time?!  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Should of known i'd get a lot of people calling bullshit. Look end of the day it happened, twice only reason I noticed this time was because i went to look at the "clock" at the side of their bed and noticed it had a small camera in the corner! It was a tablet if you don't believe keep your vile opinions and comments to yourself! Honestly the amount of nasty people on here is ridiculous |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Should of known i'd get a lot of people calling bullshit. Look end of the day it happened, twice only reason I noticed this time was because i went to look at the "clock" at the side of their bed and noticed it had a small camera in the corner! It was a tablet if you don't believe keep your vile opinions and comments to yourself! Honestly the amount of nasty people on here is ridiculous"
This is illegal and they should be reported, but they’re probably counting on you not wanting to discuss your private life in public. If you still have their message details, can they be reported to Fab? Not sure how it works when you’re blocked xx |
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By *aysolCouple
over a year ago
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"Should of known i'd get a lot of people calling bullshit. Look end of the day it happened, twice only reason I noticed this time was because i went to look at the "clock" at the side of their bed and noticed it had a small camera in the corner! It was a tablet if you don't believe keep your vile opinions and comments to yourself! Honestly the amount of nasty people on here is ridiculous
This is illegal and they should be reported, but they’re probably counting on you not wanting to discuss your private life in public. If you still have their message details, can they be reported to Fab? Not sure how it works when you’re blocked xx"
I doubt fab can really block them as they can probably just make another account but its worth a try I guess |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Should of known i'd get a lot of people calling bullshit. Look end of the day it happened, twice only reason I noticed this time was because i went to look at the "clock" at the side of their bed and noticed it had a small camera in the corner! It was a tablet if you don't believe keep your vile opinions and comments to yourself! Honestly the amount of nasty people on here is ridiculous
This is illegal and they should be reported, but they’re probably counting on you not wanting to discuss your private life in public. If you still have their message details, can they be reported to Fab? Not sure how it works when you’re blocked xx
I doubt fab can really block them as they can probably just make another account but its worth a try I guess"
It’s still worth it to let Fab know that people are doing this. If nothing else, if they are blocked, they will be inconvenienced and lose their veris, so have to start again. Should have took the camera or the sd card, and took it to the police.
Up to you what steps you take next. Be safe xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Thats horrible and breaches article 8 of human rights.
You obviously know where she lives.. i would write one letter send it recorded .. stating you did not and do not consent. It breaches your rights. And if not destroyed in any format in 12 hrs on receipt you will be informing police and seeking further legal advice ..ask to unblock you for 12hrs and send you a private message of confirmation. If this is not done report to police
Whether they do or dont you will never know but could be enough |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"if someone records me without me knowing then i would be seeking advice from the police"
Recording someone without their knowledge is not illegal. Using the recording showing to any other person or in any format is illegal |
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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago
Craggy Island |
"I would have sat outside and phoned the police it needs action talking. "
Police please, I'm sitting outside a couple's house and have just found out the husband of the woman I went to have sex with during a swinging meet has hid a camera and record me fucking his wife....and after laughing has died down in the background they will say "what do you want us to do about it?"
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"Thats horrible and breaches article 8 of human rights.
You obviously know where she lives.. i would write one letter send it recorded .. stating you did not and do not consent. It breaches your rights. And if not destroyed in any format in 12 hrs on receipt you will be informing police and seeking further legal advice ..ask to unblock you for 12hrs and send you a private message of confirmation. If this is not done report to police
Whether they do or dont you will never know but could be enough "
Sorry to be pedantic but I think the human rights act only applies where potential breaches are due to the actions of statutory bodies  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I would have sat outside and phoned the police it needs action talking.
Police please, I'm sitting outside a couple's house and have just found out the husband of the woman I went to have sex with during a swinging meet has hid a camera and record me fucking his wife....and after laughing has died down in the background they will say "what do you want us to do about it?"
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Come with the media to arrest this husband... |
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"I met a woman, turned out her husband was home and they had a hidden camera and when I confronted her she blocked me, worst bit is this is second time this has happened! Am i unlucky or is this a regular occurrence on here? Filming without consent? I think its just creepy tbh"
I think we all need to be aware this could happen to any one of us on a meet..... |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"Should of known i'd get a lot of people calling bullshit. Look end of the day it happened, twice only reason I noticed this time was because i went to look at the "clock" at the side of their bed and noticed it had a small camera in the corner! It was a tablet if you don't believe keep your vile opinions and comments to yourself! Honestly the amount of nasty people on here is ridiculous"
i cant see no nasty people here? or any vile comments?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Should of known i'd get a lot of people calling bullshit. Look end of the day it happened, twice only reason I noticed this time was because i went to look at the "clock" at the side of their bed and noticed it had a small camera in the corner! It was a tablet if you don't believe keep your vile opinions and comments to yourself! Honestly the amount of nasty people on here is ridiculous"
Go to the police sweetheart,that's illegal...There should be some consecuence for it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I met a woman, turned out her husband was home and they had a hidden camera and when I confronted her she blocked me, worst bit is this is second time this has happened! Am i unlucky or is this a regular occurrence on here? Filming without consent? I think its just creepy tbh
I think we all need to be aware this could happen to any one of us on a meet..... "
Exactly,there are loads of creepy people out there...I would go to the police |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"if someone records me without me knowing then i would be seeking advice from the police
Recording someone without their knowledge is not illegal. Using the recording showing to any other person or in any format is illegal"
It actually is. Recently a model I know won her case against a photographer she took to court for recording her naked without her consent. He faces crown court as the magistrates court deems it too serious for them to pass sentence. He used a hidden pen camera. She spotted the camera so the footage wasn’t seen by anyone else, but he still faces prison xx |
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"if someone records me without me knowing then i would be seeking advice from the police
Recording someone without their knowledge is not illegal. Using the recording showing to any other person or in any format is illegal
It actually is. Recently a model I know won her case against a photographer she took to court for recording her naked without her consent. He faces crown court as the magistrates court deems it too serious for them to pass sentence. He used a hidden pen camera. She spotted the camera so the footage wasn’t seen by anyone else, but he still faces prison xx"
I hope he goes to prison..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"if someone records me without me knowing then i would be seeking advice from the police
Recording someone without their knowledge is not illegal. Using the recording showing to any other person or in any format is illegal
It actually is. Recently a model I know won her case against a photographer she took to court for recording her naked without her consent. He faces crown court as the magistrates court deems it too serious for them to pass sentence. He used a hidden pen camera. She spotted the camera so the footage wasn’t seen by anyone else, but he still faces prison xx
I hope he goes to prison....."
He is, that’s why they’ve sent it to Crown. He has been found guilty of Voyeurism and will be served a sentence. (Voyeurism is a crime in the United Kingdom under Section 67 of the Sexual Offences Act of 2003) xx |
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You say there was a hidden camera, but was it filming? It could have been innocently there for their own sessions rather than your meet. The fact you are blocked suggests otherwise, you should name the profile to warn others.
If you report to the police and they deny making a recording, can you prove otherwise? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You say there was a hidden camera, but was it filming? It could have been innocently there for their own sessions rather than your meet. The fact you are blocked suggests otherwise, you should name the profile to warn others.
If you report to the police and they deny making a recording, can you prove otherwise?"
He can’t name them as that goes against FAB rules, he would be the one facing a potential ban, he can only report them. They should definitely be reported though xx |
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"I met a woman, turned out her husband was home and they had a hidden camera and when I confronted her she blocked me, worst bit is this is second time this has happened! Am i unlucky or is this a regular occurrence on here? Filming without consent? I think its just creepy tbh"
If she blocked you then hopefully she got in the way of the lens. 
It’s not good to secretly film. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You say there was a hidden camera, but was it filming? It could have been innocently there for their own sessions rather than your meet. The fact you are blocked suggests otherwise, you should name the profile to warn others.
If you report to the police and they deny making a recording, can you prove otherwise?
He can’t name them as that goes against FAB rules, he would be the one facing a potential ban, he can only report them. They should definitely be reported though xx"
does it go against FBI rules though? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You say there was a hidden camera, but was it filming? It could have been innocently there for their own sessions rather than your meet. The fact you are blocked suggests otherwise, you should name the profile to warn others.
If you report to the police and they deny making a recording, can you prove otherwise?
He can’t name them as that goes against FAB rules, he would be the one facing a potential ban, he can only report them. They should definitely be reported though xxdoes it go against FBI rules though? "
How much jurisdiction would the FBI have in Britain over a secretly recorded FAB meet?  Sadly unless he took the apparatus or they stupidly kept/uploaded the recording, there’s probably not much he can do to prove it xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If this happened to a woman, be very different responses.
Exactly !!"
I would hope that it would be supportive, whoever it was. The OP has had his rights violated, they’re acted illegally, there is no humour in this kind of incident xx |
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"Report it to fab so they can block the users from creating another account. They can block IP addresses fairly easily if they're using a home pc"
Surely they'd need evidence or anyone could say X filmed me secretly if they fell out and wanted them banned ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You say there was a hidden camera, but was it filming? It could have been innocently there for their own sessions rather than your meet. The fact you are blocked suggests otherwise, you should name the profile to warn others.
If you report to the police and they deny making a recording, can you prove otherwise?
He can’t name them as that goes against FAB rules, he would be the one facing a potential ban, he can only report them. They should definitely be reported though xxdoes it go against FBI rules though?
How much jurisdiction would the FBI have in Britain over a secretly recorded FAB meet? Sadly unless he took the apparatus or they stupidly kept/uploaded the recording, there’s probably not much he can do to prove it xx"
exactly he probably sends the vids to an American porn site where the FBI would have jurisdiction |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I met a woman, turned out her husband was home and they had a hidden camera and when I confronted her she blocked me, worst bit is this is second time this has happened! Am i unlucky or is this a regular occurrence on here? Filming without consent? I think its just creepy tbh"
I've always dreaded this at people's houses... |
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"if someone records me without me knowing then i would be seeking advice from the police
Recording someone without their knowledge is not illegal. Using the recording showing to any other person or in any format is illegal"
It is illegal & is an offence according to the "Sexual offences act 2003" |
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Section 68 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 (voyeurism: interpretation), confirms that 'operating equipment includes enabling or securing its activation by another person without that person's knowledge.' This includes automated equipment that has been installed without a victim's knowledge.12 Apr 2019 |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Should anyone believe they have had their privacy violated they absolutely should report it to the police and let the cps decide whether or not to prosecute.
The fab community should be aware that there is a risk of secret recordings every time they go on a meet since we live in a world where a camera can be very easily hidden.
Fabbers should announce while arranging a meet if they intend to record events. This gives everyone an opportunity to decide what and how that will happen and who will subsequently hold the rights to publish on fab or anywhere else, or indeed publish it at all. That would cover everyone with any posthumous complaints. It is up to the individuals as to how in depth they get, but trust is as heavily involved in this as any other aspect of Fab life.
Expressed permission for recording can come in many ways you might not have considered, such as simple signage on the wall of someone's home. That doesn't give them any rights to publish your identity, but what you do whilst being recorded is up to you. |
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"Should anyone believe they have had their privacy violated they absolutely should report it to the police and let the cps decide whether or not to prosecute.
The fab community should be aware that there is a risk of secret recordings every time they go on a meet since we live in a world where a camera can be very easily hidden.
Fabbers should announce while arranging a meet if they intend to record events. This gives everyone an opportunity to decide what and how that will happen and who will subsequently hold the rights to publish on fab or anywhere else, or indeed publish it at all. That would cover everyone with any posthumous complaints. It is up to the individuals as to how in depth they get, but trust is as heavily involved in this as any other aspect of Fab life.
Expressed permission for recording can come in many ways you might not have considered, such as simple signage on the wall of someone's home. That doesn't give them any rights to publish your identity, but what you do whilst being recorded is up to you."
Do we need to carry disclosure forms with us on meets? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Anyone know how i can report the profile? I don't really want to go to the police, can't face all that if it went court or made it to papers or out thanks for the support from those taking it seriously |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Should anyone believe they have had their privacy violated they absolutely should report it to the police and let the cps decide whether or not to prosecute.
The fab community should be aware that there is a risk of secret recordings every time they go on a meet since we live in a world where a camera can be very easily hidden.
Fabbers should announce while arranging a meet if they intend to record events. This gives everyone an opportunity to decide what and how that will happen and who will subsequently hold the rights to publish on fab or anywhere else, or indeed publish it at all. That would cover everyone with any posthumous complaints. It is up to the individuals as to how in depth they get, but trust is as heavily involved in this as any other aspect of Fab life.
Expressed permission for recording can come in many ways you might not have considered, such as simple signage on the wall of someone's home. That doesn't give them any rights to publish your identity, but what you do whilst being recorded is up to you.
Do we need to carry disclosure forms with us on meets? "
yes it's the only way and also have liability insurance   |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We read your post OP and feel so much for you. We do hope you’re ok and manage to gather some strength from the community here.
We admit we like videoing my solo meets for Mr P. We live stream a lot. Even though Mr P does have the fantasy of what has happened to you- we would never do this, as we can foresee the effects it would have.
The ONLY way for videos to be done is to clearly state that is what will happen. Every meet we have, the gentleman is forewarned and a lot of them enjoy it.
It is a shame this didn’t happen for you. As they still could have played their fantasy, but with everyone in full consent- which is what we all what to live by - yes?
As I say- I am sorry you have had this negative experience. Just remember- not all of us are like that and when you feel stronger - try to remember that
Sending peace
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By *anky_PankyWoman
over a year ago
Filthy Fuckeryville |
It happened to me and when I sought advice I was basically told that there was no proof that I hadn't agreed to it being filmed.
I only found out as the guy turned into a bit of a knobber so I blocked him on here and few weeks later I assume trying to get my attention, he sent me via WhatsApp a vid clip of about 30 secs of various snippets from the 6 or so hours we spent playing.
I could only have him for it if he published it anywhere without my consent  How would I know until it was too late??  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It happened to me and when I sought advice I was basically told that there was no proof that I hadn't agreed to it being filmed.
I only found out as the guy turned into a bit of a knobber so I blocked him on here and few weeks later I assume trying to get my attention, he sent me via WhatsApp a vid clip of about 30 secs of various snippets from the 6 or so hours we spent playing.
I could only have him for it if he published it anywhere without my consent How would I know until it was too late?? "
Oh my goodness
That’s awful!
He blckmailed you?
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By *anky_PankyWoman
over a year ago
Filthy Fuckeryville |
"It happened to me and when I sought advice I was basically told that there was no proof that I hadn't agreed to it being filmed.
I only found out as the guy turned into a bit of a knobber so I blocked him on here and few weeks later I assume trying to get my attention, he sent me via WhatsApp a vid clip of about 30 secs of various snippets from the 6 or so hours we spent playing.
I could only have him for it if he published it anywhere without my consent How would I know until it was too late??
Oh my goodness
That’s awful!
He blckmailed you?
X"
If he had I would have had something to go to the police with. He just quietly sent the clip and acted like it was completely normal and ok.
The convo as such meant there was nothing I could do about it as he didn't admit to doing it against my wishes |
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I have seen one couple here advertise gangbang type meets at their home. The female is on adultwolk as well for escorting and webcam services.
Maybe all above board but I wouldn't want the risk of the fab meet being secretly filmed and streamed on the other side.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I work in the security systems industry.So ive seen all types of security/Industrial spy & nanny cams.If you know what your looking for you will see how common they are.Ive seen a fare few pictures on here with sc,s in the background.So unfortunately it's not just you that has been stung.The problem is Secret cams are really cheap now
to buy with hd and have flooded the market on a very well known auction site.You can get alarms pens even wall chargers ect for less than £10.To counter act this they are now also selling cheap Chinese detection device's that are small enough to fit in your pocket that will alert you to the presence of sc,s.View the selection in that auction site and you will see it's not as uncommon as you would think to spot the same device's in the background on some of the pictures on here. |
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Last year I was approached my a fab couple with a very generic looking message asking if I’d like to play with the female when she visited London while her husband watched online. They were unwilling to give me details of which software they were planning to use, or allow me to set up my laptop for the stream so that I could limit the number of viewers. I declined after a handful of messages as it sounded really shady, and wondered whether other guys where receiving the same message or how legit it really was. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don’t know about in the UK but in America if you reported this to the police.....
They would take a report and do nothing about it....."
I don't think they would do much here.
Unless they post it online or try to threaten you with it as you have met someone on a sex site.
You have gone to there house and consented to having sex with them.
Its going be your word against there's that you had knowledge that it was being filmed.
Unfortunately as soon as they know you meet on a sex site you tend to lose your innocence in the eye's of the law.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don’t know about in the UK but in America if you reported this to the police.....
They would take a report and do nothing about it.....
I don't think they would do much here.
Unless they post it online or try to threaten you with it as you have met someone on a sex site.
You have gone to there house and consented to having sex with them.
Its going be your word against there's that you had knowledge that it was being filmed.
Unfortunately as soon as they know you meet on a sex site you tend to lose your innocence in the eye's of the law.
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I reported a female stalker once and they basically laugh at me... |
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"I don’t know about in the UK but in America if you reported this to the police.....
They would take a report and do nothing about it....."
Actually in most states it’s not a crime as recording is been done in your own home.. |
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"Report it to fab so they can block the users from creating another account. They can block IP addresses fairly easily if they're using a home pc"
Most domestic connections do not have static IP address. They can and do change |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I would have sat outside and phoned the police it needs action talking.
Police please, I'm sitting outside a couple's house and have just found out the husband of the woman I went to have sex with during a swinging meet has hid a camera and record me fucking his wife....and after laughing has died down in the background they will say "what do you want us to do about it?"
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exactly this...how many of these go to the police brigade would actually do it themselves?  |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"I would have sat outside and phoned the police it needs action talking.
Police please, I'm sitting outside a couple's house and have just found out the husband of the woman I went to have sex with during a swinging meet has hid a camera and record me fucking his wife....and after laughing has died down in the background they will say "what do you want us to do about it?"
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You are very wrong. The police handle situations like this all the time with tact and discretion.
To the OP, ignore silly posts like this, report the profile to fab, you can still do this even though they have blocked you, either do this via one of their messages or top right hand corner, drop down menu. Contact police, they can advise as the the best course of action. Even if you don't want to pursue it at this point, you still have it logged. This will also help to build a case against them if others make a complaint. Good luck with whatever you choose to do. They had no right to do this to you. X |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL |
"I would have sat outside and phoned the police it needs action talking.
Police please, I'm sitting outside a couple's house and have just found out the husband of the woman I went to have sex with during a swinging meet has hid a camera and record me fucking his wife....and after laughing has died down in the background they will say "what do you want us to do about it?"
exactly this...how many of these go to the police brigade would actually do it themselves? "
I have done and would do so again. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It’s happened to me too. Sorry it’s happened to you mate. The fact that you’ve told her you noticed should be enough to scare them into deleting all footage. Make a note of their address for future use - and maybe even post an anonymous letter threatening legal action unless they delete all hidden camera footage they’ve taken. |
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By *ooskiMan
over a year ago
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"I don’t know about in the UK but in America if you reported this to the police.....
They would take a report and do nothing about it.....
I don't think they would do much here.
Unless they post it online or try to threaten you with it as you have met someone on a sex site.
You have gone to there house and consented to having sex with them.
Its going be your word against there's that you had knowledge that it was being filmed.
Unfortunately as soon as they know you meet on a sex site you tend to lose your innocence in the eye's of the law.
I reported a female stalker once and they basically laugh at me..."
I know a female who has claimed her last 2 longterm relationships the guys have been harrashing her and another charged with sending indecent images to her...and she is completely full of shite...
Police have done nothing when we all know shes more dangerous than ms pallet.... |
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"I don’t know about in the UK but in America if you reported this to the police.....
They would take a report and do nothing about it.....
I don't think they would do much here.
Unless they post it online or try to threaten you with it as you have met someone on a sex site.
You have gone to there house and consented to having sex with them.
Its going be your word against there's that you had knowledge that it was being filmed.
Unfortunately as soon as they know you meet on a sex site you tend to lose your innocence in the eye's of the law.
I reported a female stalker once and they basically laugh at me...
I know a female who has claimed her last 2 longterm relationships the guys have been harrashing her and another charged with sending indecent images to her...and she is completely full of shite...
Police have done nothing when we all know shes more dangerous than ms pallet...."
The CPS only charge people when they have evidence to do so. |
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By *ooskiMan
over a year ago
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"I don’t know about in the UK but in America if you reported this to the police.....
They would take a report and do nothing about it.....
I don't think they would do much here.
Unless they post it online or try to threaten you with it as you have met someone on a sex site.
You have gone to there house and consented to having sex with them.
Its going be your word against there's that you had knowledge that it was being filmed.
Unfortunately as soon as they know you meet on a sex site you tend to lose your innocence in the eye's of the law.
I reported a female stalker once and they basically laugh at me...
I know a female who has claimed her last 2 longterm relationships the guys have been harrashing her and another charged with sending indecent images to her...and she is completely full of shite...
Police have done nothing when we all know shes more dangerous than ms pallet....
The CPS only charge people when they have evidence to do so. "
The guy had sent her 2 pics and she had requested them....and stupidly he sent.....the other 2 guys she could only make allegations.....and they were brought in and questioned but nothing further....., we all ignore her in most capacitys but doesnt make work fun as not even the other females want to work with her....
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There is a couple on here (can’t mention their name) from Dudley that do this .we met them at their home and just before fun started he went to cupboard and I noticed a red light ,when we asked what it was they got very defensive ,so we alted play and left but speaking to others this is something they do often . |
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"I met a woman, turned out her husband was home and they had a hidden camera and when I confronted her she blocked me, worst bit is this is second time this has happened! Am i unlucky or is this a regular occurrence on here? Filming without consent? I think its just creepy tbh"
Your fantasies seem to revolve around interfering with the privacy of others... |
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"if someone records me without me knowing then i would be seeking advice from the police
Recording someone without their knowledge is not illegal. Using the recording showing to any other person or in any format is illegal
It is illegal & is an offence according to the "Sexual offences act 2003""
Which bit? |
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"Section 68 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 (voyeurism: interpretation), confirms that 'operating equipment includes enabling or securing its activation by another person without that person's knowledge.' This includes automated equipment that has been installed without a victim's knowledge.12 Apr 2019"
I don’t think that bit |
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"It’s happened to me too. Sorry it’s happened to you mate. The fact that you’ve told her you noticed should be enough to scare them into deleting all footage. Make a note of their address for future use - and maybe even post an anonymous letter threatening legal action unless they delete all hidden camera footage they’ve taken."
Do we know there was footage? Sending An anonymous letter is likely not to be too anonymous for long (as long as it takes to out 2&2 together) and seems quite threatening to possible innocents.... |
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"Seek legal advice OP.....
The police will take these matters seriously. I used to film meets but was up front about it. "
You would need to record the other person/s agreeing to that and maybe even get it in writing as telling the police you told them in advance you were filming isn’t actual proof you got consent . The whole thing is a minefield that the Police would not want to get involved in without good evidence but one thing for sure (as someone already mentioned earlier) is they would do far more investigation if a woman complained to them about secret filming rather than a man complaining about the same thing. |
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"Report it to fab so they can block the users from creating another account. They can block IP addresses fairly easily if they're using a home pc
Most domestic connections do not have static IP address. They can and do change"
The problem with that is it means anybody on Fab with any type of grudge against anyone else could report anybody else for the same thing and get them banned . It usually comes down to one persons word against another so if reporting somebody without proof or a clear audit trail ( such as abusive messages etc ) woulld get people banned it would be open season for total anarchy on here. |
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"Report it to fab so they can block the users from creating another account. They can block IP addresses fairly easily if they're using a home pc
Most domestic connections do not have static IP address. They can and do change
The problem with that is it means anybody on Fab with any type of grudge against anyone else could report anybody else for the same thing and get them banned . It usually comes down to one persons word against another so if reporting somebody without proof or a clear audit trail ( such as abusive messages etc ) woulld get people banned it would be open season for total anarchy on here. "
Not if it worked on a strike system. If more than one person reports the same thing then believe that it’s true (admin are able to review messages sent between the parties so they can tell if a meet was arranged) |
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Ignore those that don't believe. I believe you and I'm quite alarmed.
So my first question is who was it? feel free to name and shame but primarily warn others.
On the legals: I suggest you check what I'm saying here.
Because the camera is in their private property it is unlikely to be a criminal offence.
However because they did not warn you of the hidden camera recording the commit a civil offence.
What this means is that you can sue them. And I really would.
You can actually send them a pre action protocol letter (which if contact me I will help you draft). Instructing that you are seeking damages and an injunction preventing public disclosure of any recording of yourself. Or get a solicitor to write one. A letter won't cost the earth. If you sue. They pay your costs.
But look into it. Google UK law torts.
Anyone thinking of doing this. It's FUCKING DISGUSTING!!! And I for one would sue you for the shirt on your back and your shitty shoes.
Good luck with it. |
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Sorry forgot to add.
Human rights laws relate to the state or state bodies. Ie. The police are a state body so human rights laws apply.
Waitrose. Though popular are not a state body so human rights laws don't apply.
Sorry law hobbiest. Not meaning to sound up my own arse. But intending to educate. |
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"Ignore those that don't believe. I believe you and I'm quite alarmed.
So my first question is who was it? feel free to name and shame but primarily warn others.
On the legals: I suggest you check what I'm saying here.
Because the camera is in their private property it is unlikely to be a criminal offence.
However because they did not warn you of the hidden camera recording the commit a civil offence.
What this means is that you can sue them. And I really would.
You can actually send them a pre action protocol letter (which if contact me I will help you draft). Instructing that you are seeking damages and an injunction preventing public disclosure of any recording of yourself. Or get a solicitor to write one. A letter won't cost the earth. If you sue. They pay your costs.
But look into it. Google UK law torts.
Anyone thinking of doing this. It's FUCKING DISGUSTING!!! And I for one would sue you for the shirt on your back and your shitty shoes.
Good luck with it. "
Where was this hidden camera you mention? Was there a recording made?
Persuing the above with absolutely no knowledge firstly that there was an image captured (the camera was on), secondly, whether the image was then streamed or recorded and in fact if there Was an offence committed. I think there on in to find a solicitor, without great expense, to support any action you wanted to take based on limited, if any, evidence would be a struggle! Crack on though! Thanks for the education! |
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"Ignore those that don't believe. I believe you and I'm quite alarmed.
So my first question is who was it? feel free to name and shame but primarily warn others.
On the legals: I suggest you check what I'm saying here.
Because the camera is in their private property it is unlikely to be a criminal offence.
However because they did not warn you of the hidden camera recording the commit a civil offence.
What this means is that you can sue them. And I really would.
You can actually send them a pre action protocol letter (which if contact me I will help you draft). Instructing that you are seeking damages and an injunction preventing public disclosure of any recording of yourself. Or get a solicitor to write one. A letter won't cost the earth. If you sue. They pay your costs.
But look into it. Google UK law torts.
Anyone thinking of doing this. It's FUCKING DISGUSTING!!! And I for one would sue you for the shirt on your back and your shitty shoes.
Good luck with it.
Where was this hidden camera you mention? Was there a recording made?
Persuing the above with absolutely no knowledge firstly that there was an image captured (the camera was on), secondly, whether the image was then streamed or recorded and in fact if there Was an offence committed. I think there on in to find a solicitor, without great expense, to support any action you wanted to take based on limited, if any, evidence would be a struggle! Crack on though! Thanks for the education! "
Sorry forgot to add..... utter shite! |
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just beggers belief ,i dont mind being filmed as long as they disclose it and its for their personal gratification,but if i found out id been secretly filmed i think i would be mortified,as for the suing of people like someone said with out proof would come down to your word against yours and do u really want it to come out in public if it did go to court ,i'd just block and be wary next time |
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"Last year I was approached my a fab couple with a very generic looking message asking if I’d like to play with the female when she visited London while her husband watched online. They were unwilling to give me details of which software they were planning to use, or allow me to set up my laptop for the stream so that I could limit the number of viewers. I declined after a handful of messages as it sounded really shady, and wondered whether other guys where receiving the same message or how legit it really was. "
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As a single guy I would have been happy for the meet as long as they only used any film for themselves. Also how many pictures on here look like the women is unaware her Picture was even taken or gave her permission to post it. |
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"Ignore those that don't believe. I believe you and I'm quite alarmed.
So my first question is who was it? feel free to name and shame but primarily warn others.
On the legals: I suggest you check what I'm saying here.
Because the camera is in their private property it is unlikely to be a criminal offence.
However because they did not warn you of the hidden camera recording the commit a civil offence.
What this means is that you can sue them. And I really would.
You can actually send them a pre action protocol letter (which if contact me I will help you draft). Instructing that you are seeking damages and an injunction preventing public disclosure of any recording of yourself. Or get a solicitor to write one. A letter won't cost the earth. If you sue. They pay your costs.
But look into it. Google UK law torts.
Anyone thinking of doing this. It's FUCKING DISGUSTING!!! And I for one would sue you for the shirt on your back and your shitty shoes.
Good luck with it. "
But he has to have evidence to bring to court , if he decides to sue the couple for damages..,,,
How is he going to prove they recorded him? |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"Ignore those that don't believe. I believe you and I'm quite alarmed.
So my first question is who was it? feel free to name and shame but primarily warn others.
On the legals: I suggest you check what I'm saying here.
Because the camera is in their private property it is unlikely to be a criminal offence.
However because they did not warn you of the hidden camera recording the commit a civil offence.
What this means is that you can sue them. And I really would.
You can actually send them a pre action protocol letter (which if contact me I will help you draft). Instructing that you are seeking damages and an injunction preventing public disclosure of any recording of yourself. Or get a solicitor to write one. A letter won't cost the earth. If you sue. They pay your costs.
But look into it. Google UK law torts.
Anyone thinking of doing this. It's FUCKING DISGUSTING!!! And I for one would sue you for the shirt on your back and your shitty shoes.
Good luck with it.
But he has to have evidence to bring to court , if he decides to sue the couple for damages..,,,
How is he going to prove they recorded him?"
Perhaps that would be for the police to find out if they decide to seize their equipment? |
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"Ignore those that don't believe. I believe you and I'm quite alarmed.
So my first question is who was it? feel free to name and shame but primarily warn others.
On the legals: I suggest you check what I'm saying here.
Because the camera is in their private property it is unlikely to be a criminal offence.
However because they did not warn you of the hidden camera recording the commit a civil offence.
What this means is that you can sue them. And I really would.
You can actually send them a pre action protocol letter (which if contact me I will help you draft). Instructing that you are seeking damages and an injunction preventing public disclosure of any recording of yourself. Or get a solicitor to write one. A letter won't cost the earth. If you sue. They pay your costs.
But look into it. Google UK law torts.
Anyone thinking of doing this. It's FUCKING DISGUSTING!!! And I for one would sue you for the shirt on your back and your shitty shoes.
Good luck with it.
But he has to have evidence to bring to court , if he decides to sue the couple for damages..,,,
How is he going to prove they recorded him?
Perhaps that would be for the police to find out if they decide to seize their equipment? "
Maybe the UK is different, but the police need a search warrant to go into someone’s home to seize equipment in the USA.....
Me just filing a report doesn’t do the trick.... |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"I met a woman, turned out her husband was home and they had a hidden camera and when I confronted her she blocked me, worst bit is this is second time this has happened! Am i unlucky or is this a regular occurrence on here? Filming without consent? I think its just creepy tbh"
I remember an occasion, when I invited a guy to my place, he became anxious about my laptop.
The screen was upright and bright - I had been on Fab moments before he knocked on door.
"It's not a camera, is it?" he asked.
Well, it does have a camera, like all laptops, I guess, but no, it was not switched on.
I quickly closed the lid to assure him nothing underhand was happening.
Lesson learned for the next time.
That said, on other occasions I have met guys who have asked if I'd like to webcam our sex via the chat-rooms here.
Not really my thing. |
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By *izzy.Woman
over a year ago
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"Update
I thinkher account was taken down, can't see her anyway so hopefully fab listened to me"
That's good news. Have a read through all the comments. It's happened to others too and there is somebody who wanted to talk to you to see if they have met the same person.
Take no notice of the folk who do not believe you. Thanks for the heads up that this goes on.
I'm glad I just stick to clubs !, |
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over a year ago
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This sort of happened to me recently. Idiot tried to WhatsApp video his friends while fucking me doggy and I lost my cool on him AND reported it to the police just so it was on record. If he tries that shit on anyone else again or records without consent and the person reports it then boom, his name will already be on their systems. I did get a lecture though from the police for being on Fab  . I don’t mind taking videos but there must be consent all the time. |
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"This sort of happened to me recently. Idiot tried to WhatsApp video his friends while fucking me doggy and I lost my cool on him AND reported it to the police just so it was on record. If he tries that shit on anyone else again or records without consent and the person reports it then boom, his name will already be on their systems. I did get a lecture though from the police for being on Fab . I don’t mind taking videos but there must be consent all the time. "
Why didn’t they arrest him? |
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To all you armchair barristers and police out there, one small detail is missing, as someone has already pointed out, EVIDENCE!!!! Without the recording it's one word against other, the DPP wouldnt even take it to court. The police would most likely not even have a case to submit to the DPP. I'm afraid. Lesson learnt, have a quick scan for the obvious devices and the tell tale sign of a small red dot in something innocuous. Did I hear, there's more than one way to skin a cat! |
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"This sort of happened to me recently. Idiot tried to WhatsApp video his friends while fucking me doggy and I lost my cool on him AND reported it to the police just so it was on record. If he tries that shit on anyone else again or records without consent and the person reports it then boom, his name will already be on their systems. I did get a lecture though from the police for being on Fab . I don’t mind taking videos but there must be consent all the time. "
But it won’t be on record! If he wasn’t arrested or cautioned! I’m assuming he wasn’t as yhere was no evidence? |
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"Update
I thinkher account was taken down, can't see her anyway so hopefully fab listened to me
You keeping this bull going....
Must have enjoyed the attention of previous post... "
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"This sort of happened to me recently. Idiot tried to WhatsApp video his friends while fucking me doggy and I lost my cool on him AND reported it to the police just so it was on record. If he tries that shit on anyone else again or records without consent and the person reports it then boom, his name will already be on their systems. I did get a lecture though from the police for being on Fab . I don’t mind taking videos but there must be consent all the time.
But it won’t be on record! If he wasn’t arrested or cautioned! I’m assuming he wasn’t as yhere was no evidence?"
The police officer who I spoke to asked for his details and address etc and said himself that it would be on file in the event that someone else reported him so I guess he was lying to me then. I can only go by what I was told by the officer and they took it seriously, about an hour after reporting it on 101 they had called back to book an appointment. Someone asked why he wasn’t arrested - because I didn’t have evidence. They were willing to talk to him though about this but I didn’t pursue it. Just the fact I reported it was enough for me at that point. I communicated this to him as well that I had reported it. |
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"This sort of happened to me recently. Idiot tried to WhatsApp video his friends while fucking me doggy and I lost my cool on him AND reported it to the police just so it was on record. If he tries that shit on anyone else again or records without consent and the person reports it then boom, his name will already be on their systems. I did get a lecture though from the police for being on Fab . I don’t mind taking videos but there must be consent all the time.
But it won’t be on record! If he wasn’t arrested or cautioned! I’m assuming he wasn’t as yhere was no evidence?
The police officer who I spoke to asked for his details and address etc and said himself that it would be on file in the event that someone else reported him so I guess he was lying to me then. I can only go by what I was told by the officer and they took it seriously, about an hour after reporting it on 101 they had called back to book an appointment. Someone asked why he wasn’t arrested - because I didn’t have evidence. They were willing to talk to him though about this but I didn’t pursue it. Just the fact I reported it was enough for me at that point. I communicated this to him as well that I had reported it. "
So you reported it with no evidence and they never cautioned him but will be kept on file ! I doubt that very much as I’m sure it’s illegal as otherwise anyone could report somebody but without evidence Fook all can be done just your word against theirs. |
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"I met a woman, turned out her husband was home and they had a hidden camera and when I confronted her she blocked me, worst bit is this is second time this has happened! Am i unlucky or is this a regular occurrence on here? Filming without consent? I think its just creepy tbh
I find this really unnerving and more so as you are near by. I'd genuinely hate this to happen. With consent I wouldn't mind too much but if it was secret I'd be really annoyed."
Yeah hidden cam seems in very poor taste |
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over a year ago
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"I met a woman, turned out her husband was home and they had a hidden camera and when I confronted her she blocked me, worst bit is this is second time this has happened! Am i unlucky or is this a regular occurrence on here? Filming without consent? I think its just creepy tbh
I think we all need to be aware this could happen to any one of us on a meet..... "
What about if you give your consent during a meet for part of it to be filmed ... do you then automatically give up any rights to that material (assuming it’s on the other person’s phone) and can the other person legally do what they like with it, in theory? |
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By *roy9Man
over a year ago
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The strangest meeting I had from Fab, was a couple I had been talking to for a few months... The day before the meeting... I get a message from the husband saying... my wife has a fantasy about being a prostitute... I thought oh no its a scam, but the husband insisted it was just a fantasy and no money would change hands.. sex for money is a red line for me.
I met him in a pub car part 100 yards from their house... he told me, she thinks she is being paid, but actually its the husband that is paying her. He said he would be watching downstairs from a hidden camera. It all went well, but I hope he wasn't recording it, or if he was, it would just be for their private collection. |
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I’ve had it once .... I took the item and refused to return it
Checked the card in it and he had been recording his gf as well , he recorded himself breaking up with her and her begging him to stay
He had the nerve to ask for it back too
I put it in the oven and cooked it n gave it back |
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"This sort of happened to me recently. Idiot tried to WhatsApp video his friends while fucking me doggy and I lost my cool on him AND reported it to the police just so it was on record. If he tries that shit on anyone else again or records without consent and the person reports it then boom, his name will already be on their systems. I did get a lecture though from the police for being on Fab . I don’t mind taking videos but there must be consent all the time.
But it won’t be on record! If he wasn’t arrested or cautioned! I’m assuming he wasn’t as yhere was no evidence?
The police officer who I spoke to asked for his details and address etc and said himself that it would be on file in the event that someone else reported him so I guess he was lying to me then. I can only go by what I was told by the officer and they took it seriously, about an hour after reporting it on 101 they had called back to book an appointment. Someone asked why he wasn’t arrested - because I didn’t have evidence. They were willing to talk to him though about this but I didn’t pursue it. Just the fact I reported it was enough for me at that point. I communicated this to him as well that I had reported it.
So you reported it with no evidence and they never cautioned him but will be kept on file ! I doubt that very much as I’m sure it’s illegal as otherwise anyone could report somebody but without evidence Fook all can be done just your word against theirs. "
They can close the case without investigation but reopen it at another time if they get more evidence (like say someone finds a vid of her on snapchat, or someone makes a predatory sexual complaint). So yes they could keep the information on file, legally.
Also anyone can request information kept on file about them if they want to.
Might not seem fair but if you make a complaint to the police and it's unfounded then you could also be prosecuted for that. |
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"if someone records me without me knowing then i would be seeking advice from the police
Recording someone without their knowledge is not illegal. Using the recording showing to any other person or in any format is illegal"
Of course it’s illegal. It’s called voyeurism and comes under the sexual offences act. |
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"This sort of happened to me recently. Idiot tried to WhatsApp video his friends while fucking me doggy and I lost my cool on him AND reported it to the police just so it was on record. If he tries that shit on anyone else again or records without consent and the person reports it then boom, his name will already be on their systems. I did get a lecture though from the police for being on Fab . I don’t mind taking videos but there must be consent all the time.
But it won’t be on record! If he wasn’t arrested or cautioned! I’m assuming he wasn’t as yhere was no evidence?
The police officer who I spoke to asked for his details and address etc and said himself that it would be on file in the event that someone else reported him so I guess he was lying to me then. I can only go by what I was told by the officer and they took it seriously, about an hour after reporting it on 101 they had called back to book an appointment. Someone asked why he wasn’t arrested - because I didn’t have evidence. They were willing to talk to him though about this but I didn’t pursue it. Just the fact I reported it was enough for me at that point. I communicated this to him as well that I had reported it.
So you reported it with no evidence and they never cautioned him but will be kept on file ! I doubt that very much as I’m sure it’s illegal as otherwise anyone could report somebody but without evidence Fook all can be done just your word against theirs.
They can close the case without investigation but reopen it at another time if they get more evidence (like say someone finds a vid of her on snapchat, or someone makes a predatory sexual complaint). So yes they could keep the information on file, legally.
Also anyone can request information kept on file about them if they want to.
Might not seem fair but if you make a complaint to the police and it's unfounded then you could also be prosecuted for that."
Thank you, what I did have as evidence and still have are messages from him admitting to doing this and him also apologising (eventually). All of which I will keep. |
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"If this happened to a woman, be very different responses.
Very true I'm sure"
Yes , but that life.... people are more prone to protect women......
Protecting men , not so much |
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Well a bit awkward for sure . Arguably though if you agree to a meet at someone's house it is something that can happen . You can't exactly pop round and search the rooms beforehand .So you maybe have to run the risk of it happening anywhere you are not familiar with .
It could be why a lot of people prefer meeting at clubs ( no camera rule) On the plus side as unpleasant or invasive as all this feels maybe it was part of the reason you were invited . They just didn't tell you and that might have altered your position on going .
It is clearly a voyeur thing so perhaps hubby or partner was too embarrassed to be in the room at same time ?
Or could it be a Don challenge ? We see these quite often don't we ?
When all said and done it's doubtful you will end up in the papers or on the net ...Also would this not be an incredibly difficult thing to put up a good argument against if you complained ? How do you prove you did not give permission if someone says you did ?
Also I believe recording someone is not illegal as such but broadcasting it to others without all parties permission is?
Maybe they might unblock you ? and you could talk about it and work it out between you .
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"if someone records me without me knowing then i would be seeking advice from the police
Recording someone without their knowledge is not illegal. Using the recording showing to any other person or in any format is illegal
Of course it’s illegal. It’s called voyeurism and comes under the sexual offences act. "
Strange interpretation of the law...unless if the OP had explicitly refused filming, it would be difficult to prove voyeurism... People have CCTV cameras dotted around the room for different reason, some of which are not sexual. TI guess the OP should have had loads of communication before the meet, this is always underrated.  |
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By *unPeteMan
over a year ago
Near Bristol |
"Should of known i'd get a lot of people calling bullshit. Look end of the day it happened, twice only reason I noticed this time was because i went to look at the "clock" at the side of their bed and noticed it had a small camera in the corner! It was a tablet if you don't believe keep your vile opinions and comments to yourself! Honestly the amount of nasty people on here is ridiculous"
I certainly don't want to be vile and this is something that's crossed my mind when I've been in somebody's home.
If you only noticed it this time because you looked at the clock, how do you know there was a first time? Have you been informed or have you seen the film on social media? You might be worrying about nothing!
Also, are you sure the tablet was recording during the second occurrence. If yes then I think I would have grabbed it and deleted the film there and then. Too bad if if it got damaged in the ensuing struggle with hubby! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Should of known i'd get a lot of people calling bullshit. Look end of the day it happened, twice only reason I noticed this time was because i went to look at the "clock" at the side of their bed and noticed it had a small camera in the corner! It was a tablet if you don't believe keep your vile opinions and comments to yourself! Honestly the amount of nasty people on here is ridiculous"
What vile comments, what have I missed ?
It does seem a little unusual so you will get people question whether it’s a true story, just look at the comments and you’ll see most people are shocked |
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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago
Paisley |
Definitely seek legal advice.
That video could end up anywhere. I’ve had pics taken from here and put on a porn site. Fortunately someone told me and I was able to get them removed. It wasn’t anything nude but we have no control over digital media.
Best advice would be to accommodate or book a hotel room. |
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