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"I think things have changed from it just being about couples. I mostly meet single guys, and the ones who are part of the scene, it's obvious. There are unspoken ground rules, a wider social context, and a community. I actually find interaction with couples more stilted and challenging, including in clubs, than with other singles. The fuck now limited time scale demanding thing is also something that couples do with me... " I understand that single women meeting single men is easier, but there are plenty of sites for that, tinder, badoo etc and to be honest most pubs and clubs, but how does that relate to the swingers scene? Isn’t sites like Fab etc for the niche of couples meeting other couples, or single men and women? Fab has become so much about gay or bi men and women looking for other single gay or bi people and also single straight men and women looking to meet other singles. I’ve been on fab for years and it has become so diluted from the niche site it was to now being more difficult for couples to fulfil their lifestyle and fantasies. I know that some couples can have that time pressure too, but once pointed out that we don’t want the pressure then that should be respected. I hear you loud and clear on that. | |||
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"I think things have changed from it just being about couples. I mostly meet single guys, and the ones who are part of the scene, it's obvious. There are unspoken ground rules, a wider social context, and a community. I actually find interaction with couples more stilted and challenging, including in clubs, than with other singles. The fuck now limited time scale demanding thing is also something that couples do with me... I understand that single women meeting single men is easier, but there are plenty of sites for that, tinder, badoo etc and to be honest most pubs and clubs, but how does that relate to the swingers scene? Isn’t sites like Fab etc for the niche of couples meeting other couples, or single men and women? Fab has become so much about gay or bi men and women looking for other single gay or bi people and also single straight men and women looking to meet other singles. I’ve been on fab for years and it has become so diluted from the niche site it was to now being more difficult for couples to fulfil their lifestyle and fantasies. I know that some couples can have that time pressure too, but once pointed out that we don’t want the pressure then that should be respected. I hear you loud and clear on that." But I see myself within a swinging context. When I say guys are easier, I also mean in swinger's clubs. What else am I doing other than being a swinger in that environment? I'm not getting in the way of couples doing their thing. Have at it. I'm open to meeting couples, too. I just think the idea that singles are a mostly unwelcome accessory for couples is a bit... on the nose. | |||
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"I keep life simple. I avoid the need for labels and just focus on enjoying my life as I want to, including being around and on the scene for many years " Ditto! | |||
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"Hi all After posting on another section of this forum and being in the scene for nearly 10 years in the uk and Ireland, I’d like to hear your views on something. I have always been on the scene as a couple but would like your view on this.... I see the swinging scene as predominantly a couples lifestyle choice with single guys and girls being invited in to individual scenes and meets. If a single male meets a single female then is this swinging? If a single male or female meets a couple, then the single person is “joining” the couples scene and lifestyle as a visitor or guest. As a couple, we have far more to risk than singles. We have a partner that we love and a family. We have to be able to trust each other, we have jealousy to deal with, we have security risks and above all, if anything fails and the lifestyle causes the relationship to breakdown, we risk losing our partner, family, house, money and lifestyle. Single people don’t risk all of these things. Sure single people have risks meeting strangers, but so do couples, but couples have far more to lose if things go wrong. This is how I’ve always seen the scene as a whole, and agin in most of the clubs I’ve been too, it’s has been the couples driving the meets and deciding on who they meet etc. Singles have to be invited into rooms in most of the clubs. Don’t get me wrong, as a couple we always respect the people we meet and always try and make them relaxed and comfortable. In all cases, we also set rules to ensure their own safety as well as our safety too. We respect everyone we meet, but it gets annoying when predominantly single male have the attitude of “I’ll come over and fuck you but I can only stay for an hour” or “I’m not in to socials, I just wanna fuck you while he watches”. A not to single males, ask what the couple are looking for and if it’s not what you want then decline a meet, but once they’ve said what they are looking for and you keep replying with pressure and ultimatums, it’s not respectful. I’m happy to discuss and listen to other people’s view and happy to stand corrected." Sorry but no, just no. I'm not an accessory for anyone's lifestyle, I do this for me, not to amuse a couple for a few hours. Very few forum posts piss me off as much as this one has, nobody should get to choose who can and can't be swingers, if I choose to join this lifestyle as a single, nobody is going to tell me I can't or that I'm just a 'visitor' because a couple honoured me with their time. You think single people don't have families, lives, homes, jobs to deal with too? We have all these things without the emotional and financial support of another person, that makes what we do just as risky, if not more so than for couples because if anything goes tits up, we haven't got the backup of another person. You need to give your head a wobble, couples are not superior in swinging, singles are not accessories for couples to use whenever they want and you have basically summed up why 'unicorns' are so rare, because of yours and other couples self righteous drivel. | |||
"Swinging is being polyamorous and having an open relationship. There are of course tighter definitions and thats where mutual agreed rules define the limits of acceptable behaviour. " That’s one agrument! However I feel some “couples” use swinging to have casual fun. No emotion. Just sex. Each to their own. Live and let live! However I also feel some couples seek that emotional connection with an extra, as no man is an island. Some would say! There was a clip on YouTube, “This morning” about woman who has relationships with two or three guys. She would split her time between them all. Her argument was that no man is an island. However the bf’s would ‘only sleep with her’! I found it really interesting. I thought about fab when I saw it! | |||
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"Hi all After posting on another section of this forum and being in the scene for nearly 10 years in the uk and Ireland, I’d like to hear your views on something. I have always been on the scene as a couple but would like your view on this.... I see the swinging scene as predominantly a couples lifestyle choice with single guys and girls being invited in to individual scenes and meets. If a single male meets a single female then is this swinging? If a single male or female meets a couple, then the single person is “joining” the couples scene and lifestyle as a visitor or guest. As a couple, we have far more to risk than singles. We have a partner that we love and a family. We have to be able to trust each other, we have jealousy to deal with, we have security risks and above all, if anything fails and the lifestyle causes the relationship to breakdown, we risk losing our partner, family, house, money and lifestyle. Single people don’t risk all of these things. Sure single people have risks meeting strangers, but so do couples, but couples have far more to lose if things go wrong. This is how I’ve always seen the scene as a whole, and agin in most of the clubs I’ve been too, it’s has been the couples driving the meets and deciding on who they meet etc. Singles have to be invited into rooms in most of the clubs. Don’t get me wrong, as a couple we always respect the people we meet and always try and make them relaxed and comfortable. In all cases, we also set rules to ensure their own safety as well as our safety too. We respect everyone we meet, but it gets annoying when predominantly single male have the attitude of “I’ll come over and fuck you but I can only stay for an hour” or “I’m not in to socials, I just wanna fuck you while he watches”. A not to single males, ask what the couple are looking for and if it’s not what you want then decline a meet, but once they’ve said what they are looking for and you keep replying with pressure and ultimatums, it’s not respectful. I’m happy to discuss and listen to other people’s view and happy to stand corrected." sure it started out as couples and sure you are risking your relationship as do other couples these are the choices you make, some couples on the scene now are couples for the scene maybe married to others and are playing away or fwb's, that said the disrespectful males you're on about exist, disrespectful females exist to but that's life some people are disrespectful, some allow them to get away with it some dont, I as a single male am always respectful and well mannered and as such have to tolerate being tarred with the same brush, enjoy what you do in this life and when you don't get out that's my advice, don't moan about the rude and disrespectful block and forget about them and move on  | |||
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
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"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
"you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it  | |||
"Hi all After posting on another section of this forum and being in the scene for nearly 10 years in the uk and Ireland, I’d like to hear your views on something. I have always been on the scene as a couple but would like your view on this.... I see the swinging scene as predominantly a couples lifestyle choice with single guys and girls being invited in to individual scenes and meets. If a single male meets a single female then is this swinging? If a single male or female meets a couple, then the single person is “joining” the couples scene and lifestyle as a visitor or guest. As a couple, we have far more to risk than singles. We have a partner that we love and a family. We have to be able to trust each other, we have jealousy to deal with, we have security risks and above all, if anything fails and the lifestyle causes the relationship to breakdown, we risk losing our partner, family, house, money and lifestyle. Single people don’t risk all of these things. Sure single people have risks meeting strangers, but so do couples, but couples have far more to lose if things go wrong. This is how I’ve always seen the scene as a whole, and agin in most of the clubs I’ve been too, it’s has been the couples driving the meets and deciding on who they meet etc. Singles have to be invited into rooms in most of the clubs. Don’t get me wrong, as a couple we always respect the people we meet and always try and make them relaxed and comfortable. In all cases, we also set rules to ensure their own safety as well as our safety too. We respect everyone we meet, but it gets annoying when predominantly single male have the attitude of “I’ll come over and fuck you but I can only stay for an hour” or “I’m not in to socials, I just wanna fuck you while he watches”. A not to single males, ask what the couple are looking for and if it’s not what you want then decline a meet, but once they’ve said what they are looking for and you keep replying with pressure and ultimatums, it’s not respectful. I’m happy to discuss and listen to other people’s view and happy to stand corrected. Sorry but no, just no. I'm not an accessory for anyone's lifestyle, I do this for me, not to amuse a couple for a few hours. Very few forum posts piss me off as much as this one has, nobody should get to choose who can and can't be swingers, if I choose to join this lifestyle as a single, nobody is going to tell me I can't or that I'm just a 'visitor' because a couple honoured me with their time. You think single people don't have families, lives, homes, jobs to deal with too? We have all these things without the emotional and financial support of another person, that makes what we do just as risky, if not more so than for couples because if anything goes tits up, we haven't got the backup of another person. You need to give your head a wobble, couples are not superior in swinging, singles are not accessories for couples to use whenever they want and you have basically summed up why 'unicorns' are so rare, because of yours and other couples self righteous drivel. " Agree. This is the 2nd post that the OP has put up about singles on the scene. Entitled self righteous drivel just about sums it up. Ive been in the scene on and off since my early 20's, as both a single and as part of a couple....so I'm classed as 'a visitor' when single. Fuckin hilarious considering the amount of couples who are looking for a unicorn. I think alot of couples will agree it's the single fems who chose which couples they meet. Yes, couples can have their pick of single men but fems are overrun with couples wanting to meet, so we have a choice. If you don't like what the scene has evolved to then stick to couple only parties and don't advertise you are looking for singles and block all single fems/men. Singles have less to lose than couples - really?! So they don't have jobs, family, friends, respinsibilites etc. You mention jealousy, and I think this is where your issues lay - any true swinger knows that this plays no part in swinging. Maybe your anti single posts are driven by your own insecurities that your partner may have more fun with the singles you are so set against. | |||
"Hi all After posting on another section of this forum and being in the scene for nearly 10 years in the uk and Ireland, I’d like to hear your views on something. I have always been on the scene as a couple but would like your view on this.... I see the swinging scene as predominantly a couples lifestyle choice with single guys and girls being invited in to individual scenes and meets. If a single male meets a single female then is this swinging? If a single male or female meets a couple, then the single person is “joining” the couples scene and lifestyle as a visitor or guest. As a couple, we have far more to risk than singles. We have a partner that we love and a family. We have to be able to trust each other, we have jealousy to deal with, we have security risks and above all, if anything fails and the lifestyle causes the relationship to breakdown, we risk losing our partner, family, house, money and lifestyle. Single people don’t risk all of these things. Sure single people have risks meeting strangers, but so do couples, but couples have far more to lose if things go wrong. This is how I’ve always seen the scene as a whole, and agin in most of the clubs I’ve been too, it’s has been the couples driving the meets and deciding on who they meet etc. Singles have to be invited into rooms in most of the clubs. Don’t get me wrong, as a couple we always respect the people we meet and always try and make them relaxed and comfortable. In all cases, we also set rules to ensure their own safety as well as our safety too. We respect everyone we meet, but it gets annoying when predominantly single male have the attitude of “I’ll come over and fuck you but I can only stay for an hour” or “I’m not in to socials, I just wanna fuck you while he watches”. A not to single males, ask what the couple are looking for and if it’s not what you want then decline a meet, but once they’ve said what they are looking for and you keep replying with pressure and ultimatums, it’s not respectful. I’m happy to discuss and listen to other people’s view and happy to stand corrected." Don't think the singles you've met will be impressed with this post reading how you see them. | |||
Never gets old.
Swinging is a lifestyle choice, A frame of mind.
You're argument that you have more to lose because you have loved ones and family is a bit far fetched. I too have friends and family that I could.lose should they find out that I like going to clubs where I can fuck as many people as I like or that I like people to spank me, flog me, cane me etc. I also have a job that I could potentially lose if it all came out and I was thought to bring the company's reputation into disrepute. That's pretty risky.
I've also seen about these forums at times that singles aren't swingers because if they meet someonw they might stop being swingers. Again, ridiculous. If your partner decided today that they didn't want to swing anymore I bet you'd stop so why does that make you any different to a single person?
Swinging has evolved from the old days of wife swapping. Move with the times! | |||
"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it "Nooooooooo.  | |||
"when me and hubs first got into this lifestyle (25yrs ago) its was all couples who were swingers but it was a very clicky scene and to be honest i prefer it today with the mixture of scenes and sexuality and kinks swinging is a lifestyle nothing more nothing less there will be hardcore and there will be toe dippers there is no right way to swing ? well thats how i see it now anyway .. no one can own a scene no one can own a life style" An amazing way to look at it. | |||
"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it "swinging was a way for couples with the keys in a fruit bowl so how the hell you say there a difference between wife swapping and swinging you really are uneducated we met some decent singles and some wankers who my fella had to slap so we only play with couples but clubs have different nights to cator for everyone and every sceriano it's each to there own this site has been ruined by fakes and half wits there alot of couple profiles set up where it turns out just be the male but there are events out there for couples that arnt on fab for the single reason | |||
"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it
swinging was a way for couples with the keys in a fruit bowl so how the hell you say there a difference between wife swapping and swinging you really are uneducated we met some decent singles and some wankers who my fella had to slap so we only play with couples but clubs have different nights to cator for everyone and every sceriano it's each to there own this site has been ruined by fakes and half wits there alot of couple profiles set up where it turns out just be the male but there are events out there for couples that arnt on fab for the single reason "Ok. | |||
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"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
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". Agree. This is the 2nd post that the OP has put up about singles on the scene. Entitled self righteous drivel just about sums it up. Ive been in the scene on and off since my early 20's, as both a single and as part of a couple....so I'm classed as 'a visitor' when single. Fuckin hilarious considering the amount of couples who are looking for a unicorn. I think alot of couples will agree it's the single fems who chose which couples they meet. Yes, couples can have their pick of single men but fems are overrun with couples wanting to meet, so we have a choice. If you don't like what the scene has evolved to then stick to couple only parties and don't advertise you are looking for singles and block all single fems/men. Singles have less to lose than couples - really?! So they don't have jobs, family, friends, respinsibilites etc. You mention jealousy, and I think this is where your issues lay - any true swinger knows that this plays no part in swinging. Maybe your anti single posts are driven by your own insecurities that your partner may have more fun with the singles you are so set against. " This!!! Some couples (and again, I say SOME)!! Some are made up of women who are adventurous and daring enough to try the scene. Hubby is all for it as he thinks, yes I get to have two women!! However when the conversation comes to another Male in the mix, it’s quickly dismissed! I say this as I’ve been in such a relationship (thank god im out of it, as he wasn’t for me). To me these men aren’t swingers, and don’t understand the scene. From my view (again), I couldn’t have one partner for the rest of my life, without the swinging. My opinion is that if I was to ever get in a relationship, I’d be more than happy for them to explore their sexual side, in fact it would turn me on! Then on the flip side, I’d like to know it would turn my partner on knowing I was being sexually pleased. This in no way would effect negatively on the relationship, as that would be the person who I’d love and the sex life between us would become sexier and intense! | |||
"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it swinging was a way for couples with the keys in a fruit bowl so how the hell you say there a difference between wife swapping and swinging you really are uneducated we met some decent singles and some wankers who my fella had to slap so we only play with couples but clubs have different nights to cator for everyone and every sceriano it's each to there own this site has been ruined by fakes and half wits there alot of couple profiles set up where it turns out just be the male but there are events out there for couples that arnt on fab for the single reason "He's uneducated? Would you like me to correct the spelling and punctuation in your post?
I agree with the OP. Wife swapping is what started the whole scene off. Since then it's evolved into swinging.
Unfortunately there are way too many people, most often couples, trying to tell the rest of the world we have to do it their way.
Such narrow attitudes in what should be an open minded liberated environment perplex me.
Fae
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"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it swinging was a way for couples with the keys in a fruit bowl so how the hell you say there a difference between wife swapping and swinging you really are uneducated we met some decent singles and some wankers who my fella had to slap so we only play with couples but clubs have different nights to cator for everyone and every sceriano it's each to there own this site has been ruined by fakes and half wits there alot of couple profiles set up where it turns out just be the male but there are events out there for couples that arnt on fab for the single reason "Uneducated? How rude and patronising of you. Give me a polite single man (and I rarely play with single men) over a violent, patronising couple anyday! Swinging has evolved, far from wife swapping of old. | |||
"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it swinging was a way for couples with the keys in a fruit bowl so how the hell you say there a difference between wife swapping and swinging you really are uneducated we met some decent singles and some wankers who my fella had to slap so we only play with couples but clubs have different nights to cator for everyone and every sceriano it's each to there own this site has been ruined by fakes and half wits there alot of couple profiles set up where it turns out just be the male but there are events out there for couples that arnt on fab for the single reason " | |||
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"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it swinging was a way for couples with the keys in a fruit bowl so how the hell you say there a difference between wife swapping and swinging you really are uneducated we met some decent singles and some wankers who my fella had to slap so we only play with couples but clubs have different nights to cator for everyone and every sceriano it's each to there own this site has been ruined by fakes and half wits there alot of couple profiles set up where it turns out just be the male but there are events out there for couples that arnt on fab for the single reason
He's uneducated?
Would you like me to correct the spelling and punctuation in your post?
I agree with the OP. Wife swapping is what started the whole scene off. Since then it's evolved into swinging.
Unfortunately there are way too many people, most often couples, trying to tell the rest of the world we have to do it their way.
Such narrow attitudes in what should be an open minded liberated environment perplex me.
Fae
"Agree. The irony is the self righteous couples usually consist of a male who goes behind their partners back to try and meet every single fem in the area. Not as 'rock solid' as they make out. And yes I have had many messages on my old single profile from such couples. | |||
"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it swinging was a way for couples with the keys in a fruit bowl so how the hell you say there a difference between wife swapping and swinging you really are uneducated we met some decent singles and some wankers who my fella had to slap so we only play with couples but clubs have different nights to cator for everyone and every sceriano it's each to there own this site has been ruined by fakes and half wits there alot of couple profiles set up where it turns out just be the male but there are events out there for couples that arnt on fab for the single reason
He's uneducated?
Would you like me to correct the spelling and punctuation in your post?
I agree with the OP. Wife swapping is what started the whole scene off. Since then it's evolved into swinging.
Unfortunately there are way too many people, most often couples, trying to tell the rest of the world we have to do it their way.
Such narrow attitudes in what should be an open minded liberated environment perplex me.
Fae
"its the male messaging now mate I don't care about spelling it was a moron comment and I've got my own scaffolding company which doesn't make me uneducated does it and yes there are couples stuck up there own arse but think the original post is just getting peoples say on it we don't have single males near us but doesn't mean we disagree with what they do i wouldn't myself I'm confident enough go out to bars and night clubs if I was single some see this has a meat market hence they need putting in place time to time that's why we only do clubs cos they just get thrown out simple really | |||
". Agree. This is the 2nd post that the OP has put up about singles on the scene. Entitled self righteous drivel just about sums it up. Ive been in the scene on and off since my early 20's, as both a single and as part of a couple....so I'm classed as 'a visitor' when single. Fuckin hilarious considering the amount of couples who are looking for a unicorn. I think alot of couples will agree it's the single fems who chose which couples they meet. Yes, couples can have their pick of single men but fems are overrun with couples wanting to meet, so we have a choice. If you don't like what the scene has evolved to then stick to couple only parties and don't advertise you are looking for singles and block all single fems/men. Singles have less to lose than couples - really?! So they don't have jobs, family, friends, respinsibilites etc. You mention jealousy, and I think this is where your issues lay - any true swinger knows that this plays no part in swinging. Maybe your anti single posts are driven by your own insecurities that your partner may have more fun with the singles you are so set against. This!!! Some couples (and again, I say SOME)!! Some are made up of women who are adventurous and daring enough to try the scene. Hubby is all for it as he thinks, yes I get to have two women!! However when the conversation comes to another Male in the mix, it’s quickly dismissed! I say this as I’ve been in such a relationship (thank god im out of it, as he wasn’t for me). To me these men aren’t swingers, and don’t understand the scene. From my view (again), I couldn’t have one partner for the rest of my life, without the swinging. My opinion is that if I was to ever get in a relationship, I’d be more than happy for them to explore their sexual side, in fact it would turn me on! Then on the flip side, I’d like to know it would turn my partner on knowing I was being sexually pleased. This in no way would effect negatively on the relationship, as that would be the person who I’d love and the sex life between us would become sexier and intense! "finding love is such a difficult process don't you think but finding love and a partner and isn't jealous when youre getting f#cked by some guy who he feels is way out of his league is even more difficult don't you think, the insecurities of the mind can never be fathomed and this lifestyle distorts them even further | |||
"I do wonder if this is where some couples go wrong and put so called unicorns off, by assuming they're in a higher class or league. If I'm a plaything to be brought in rather than an equal, I'm not playing. " If they think I can be brought, you couldn’t afford me! I’m not a free toy! I’m enjoying this thread, as it’s bringing the true sprit of swinging together! Perhaps we should start a “swinging pride”! To let others in this world we are who we want to be, and aren’t here to be used and abused!! I am sick of how some people view single females, they can act and behave like I’m there on a plate for them! If I could have a £1 for every guy who has made an inappropriate pass, a couple who have spoke to me like I’m their toy, for every time I’ve said no and they haven’t stopped after the first no I’d be a millionaire!!  | |||
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"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it swinging was a way for couples with the keys in a fruit bowl so how the hell you say there a difference between wife swapping and swinging you really are uneducated we met some decent singles and some wankers who my fella had to slap so we only play with couples but clubs have different nights to cator for everyone and every sceriano it's each to there own this site has been ruined by fakes and half wits there alot of couple profiles set up where it turns out just be the male but there are events out there for couples that arnt on fab for the single reason
He's uneducated?
Would you like me to correct the spelling and punctuation in your post?
I agree with the OP. Wife swapping is what started the whole scene off. Since then it's evolved into swinging.
Unfortunately there are way too many people, most often couples, trying to tell the rest of the world we have to do it their way.
Such narrow attitudes in what should be an open minded liberated environment perplex me.
Fae
its the male messaging now mate I don't care about spelling it was a moron comment and I've got my own scaffolding company which doesn't make me uneducated does it and yes there are couples stuck up there own arse but think the original post is just getting peoples say on it we don't have single males near us but doesn't mean we disagree with what they do i wouldn't myself I'm confident enough go out to bars and night clubs if I was single some see this has a meat market hence they need putting in place time to time that's why we only do clubs cos they just get thrown out simple really "I'm afraid you're everything we wouldn't want to meet in a couple. Rude, offensive, aggressive - self confessed violent, ignorant and abusive. Comments and behaviours like yours are an excellent filter. E | |||
"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it swinging was a way for couples with the keys in a fruit bowl so how the hell you say there a difference between wife swapping and swinging you really are uneducated we met some decent singles and some wankers who my fella had to slap so we only play with couples but clubs have different nights to cator for everyone and every sceriano it's each to there own this site has been ruined by fakes and half wits there alot of couple profiles set up where it turns out just be the male but there are events out there for couples that arnt on fab for the single reason
He's uneducated?
Would you like me to correct the spelling and punctuation in your post?
I agree with the OP. Wife swapping is what started the whole scene off. Since then it's evolved into swinging.
Unfortunately there are way too many people, most often couples, trying to tell the rest of the world we have to do it their way.
Such narrow attitudes in what should be an open minded liberated environment perplex me.
Fae
its the male messaging now mate I don't care about spelling it was a moron comment and I've got my own scaffolding company which doesn't make me uneducated does it and yes there are couples stuck up there own arse but think the original post is just getting peoples say on it we don't have single males near us but doesn't mean we disagree with what they do i wouldn't myself I'm confident enough go out to bars and night clubs if I was single some see this has a meat market hence they need putting in place time to time that's why we only do clubs cos they just get thrown out simple really "He wasn't rude to you so what gives you the right to say he's uneducated or say it was a moron comment? You are down right rude and there is no reason to be. Try and get your point of view across in a calm and educated manner, without the insults please. | |||
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"I do wonder if this is where some couples go wrong and put so called unicorns off, by assuming they're in a higher class or league. If I'm a plaything to be brought in rather than an equal, I'm not playing. If they think I can be brought, you couldn’t afford me! I’m not a free toy! I’m enjoying this thread, as it’s bringing the true sprit of swinging together! Perhaps we should start a “swinging pride”! To let others in this world we are who we want to be, and aren’t here to be used and abused!! I am sick of how some people view single females, they can act and behave like I’m there on a plate for them! If I could have a £1 for every guy who has made an inappropriate pass, a couple who have spoke to me like I’m their toy, for every time I’ve said no and they haven’t stopped after the first no I’d be a millionaire!! "As though we should be honoured to be bossed around and used for their pleasure. Sorry, I can't, I'm washing my hair. | |||
"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it swinging was a way for couples with the keys in a fruit bowl so how the hell you say there a difference between wife swapping and swinging you really are uneducated we met some decent singles and some wankers who my fella had to slap so we only play with couples but clubs have different nights to cator for everyone and every sceriano it's each to there own this site has been ruined by fakes and half wits there alot of couple profiles set up where it turns out just be the male but there are events out there for couples that arnt on fab for the single reason
He's uneducated?
Would you like me to correct the spelling and punctuation in your post?
I agree with the OP. Wife swapping is what started the whole scene off. Since then it's evolved into swinging.
Unfortunately there are way too many people, most often couples, trying to tell the rest of the world we have to do it their way.
Such narrow attitudes in what should be an open minded liberated environment perplex me.
Fae
its the male messaging now mate I don't care about spelling it was a moron comment and I've got my own scaffolding company which doesn't make me uneducated does it and yes there are couples stuck up there own arse but think the original post is just getting peoples say on it we don't have single males near us but doesn't mean we disagree with what they do i wouldn't myself I'm confident enough go out to bars and night clubs if I was single some see this has a meat market hence they need putting in place time to time that's why we only do clubs cos they just get thrown out simple really "I'm not your mate. Nor do I wish to be so. Fae | |||
"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it swinging was a way for couples with the keys in a fruit bowl so how the hell you say there a difference between wife swapping and swinging you really are uneducated we met some decent singles and some wankers who my fella had to slap so we only play with couples but clubs have different nights to cator for everyone and every sceriano it's each to there own this site has been ruined by fakes and half wits there alot of couple profiles set up where it turns out just be the male but there are events out there for couples that arnt on fab for the single reason
He's uneducated?
Would you like me to correct the spelling and punctuation in your post?
I agree with the OP. Wife swapping is what started the whole scene off. Since then it's evolved into swinging.
Unfortunately there are way too many people, most often couples, trying to tell the rest of the world we have to do it their way.
Such narrow attitudes in what should be an open minded liberated environment perplex me.
Fae
its the male messaging now mate I don't care about spelling it was a moron comment and I've got my own scaffolding company which doesn't make me uneducated does it and yes there are couples stuck up there own arse but think the original post is just getting peoples say on it we don't have single males near us but doesn't mean we disagree with what they do i wouldn't myself I'm confident enough go out to bars and night clubs if I was single some see this has a meat market hence they need putting in place time to time that's why we only do clubs cos they just get thrown out simple really "But as a single guy if you were one I believe you'd have much the same attitude as the guys you are maligning | |||
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"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it swinging was a way for couples with the keys in a fruit bowl so how the hell you say there a difference between wife swapping and swinging you really are uneducated we met some decent singles and some wankers who my fella had to slap so we only play with couples but clubs have different nights to cator for everyone and every sceriano it's each to there own this site has been ruined by fakes and half wits there alot of couple profiles set up where it turns out just be the male but there are events out there for couples that arnt on fab for the single reason
He's uneducated?
Would you like me to correct the spelling and punctuation in your post?
I agree with the OP. Wife swapping is what started the whole scene off. Since then it's evolved into swinging.
Unfortunately there are way too many people, most often couples, trying to tell the rest of the world we have to do it their way.
Such narrow attitudes in what should be an open minded liberated environment perplex me.
Fae
its the male messaging now mate I don't care about spelling it was a moron comment and I've got my own scaffolding company which doesn't make me uneducated does it and yes there are couples stuck up there own arse but think the original post is just getting peoples say on it we don't have single males near us but doesn't mean we disagree with what they do i wouldn't myself I'm confident enough go out to bars and night clubs if I was single some see this has a meat market hence they need putting in place time to time that's why we only do clubs cos they just get thrown out simple really But as a single guy if you were one I believe you'd have much the same attitude as the guys you are maligning if I was single I wouldn't be on here "lol of course you would, you're addicted same as rest of us, I'm well able to chat women up in any situation but it's much easier here and you know it | |||
"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it swinging was a way for couples with the keys in a fruit bowl so how the hell you say there a difference between wife swapping and swinging you really are uneducated we met some decent singles and some wankers who my fella had to slap so we only play with couples but clubs have different nights to cator for everyone and every sceriano it's each to there own this site has been ruined by fakes and half wits there alot of couple profiles set up where it turns out just be the male but there are events out there for couples that arnt on fab for the single reason
He's uneducated?
Would you like me to correct the spelling and punctuation in your post?
I agree with the OP. Wife swapping is what started the whole scene off. Since then it's evolved into swinging.
Unfortunately there are way too many people, most often couples, trying to tell the rest of the world we have to do it their way.
Such narrow attitudes in what should be an open minded liberated environment perplex me.
Fae
its the male messaging now mate I don't care about spelling it was a moron comment and I've got my own scaffolding company which doesn't make me uneducated does it and yes there are couples stuck up there own arse but think the original post is just getting peoples say on it we don't have single males near us but doesn't mean we disagree with what they do i wouldn't myself I'm confident enough go out to bars and night clubs if I was single some see this has a meat market hence they need putting in place time to time that's why we only do clubs cos they just get thrown out simple really
I'm not your mate.
Nor do I wish to be so.
Fae" | |||
"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it swinging was a way for couples with the keys in a fruit bowl so how the hell you say there a difference between wife swapping and swinging you really are uneducated we met some decent singles and some wankers who my fella had to slap so we only play with couples but clubs have different nights to cator for everyone and every sceriano it's each to there own this site has been ruined by fakes and half wits there alot of couple profiles set up where it turns out just be the male but there are events out there for couples that arnt on fab for the single reason
He's uneducated?
Would you like me to correct the spelling and punctuation in your post?
I agree with the OP. Wife swapping is what started the whole scene off. Since then it's evolved into swinging.
Unfortunately there are way too many people, most often couples, trying to tell the rest of the world we have to do it their way.
Such narrow attitudes in what should be an open minded liberated environment perplex me.
Fae
its the male messaging now mate I don't care about spelling it was a moron comment and I've got my own scaffolding company which doesn't make me uneducated does it and yes there are couples stuck up there own arse but think the original post is just getting peoples say on it we don't have single males near us but doesn't mean we disagree with what they do i wouldn't myself I'm confident enough go out to bars and night clubs if I was single some see this has a meat market hence they need putting in place time to time that's why we only do clubs cos they just get thrown out simple really But as a single guy if you were one I believe you'd have much the same attitude as the guys you are maligning if I was single I wouldn't be on here lol of course you would, you're addicted same as rest of us, I'm well able to chat women up in any situation but it's much easier here and you know it "no I wouldn't that's just it how can you be addicted to this life style rather be out on real nights out with each other and friends this is when it suits us | |||
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"I do wonder if this is where some couples go wrong and put so called unicorns off, by assuming they're in a higher class or league. If I'm a plaything to be brought in rather than an equal, I'm not playing. If they think I can be brought, you couldn’t afford me! I’m not a free toy! I’m enjoying this thread, as it’s bringing the true sprit of swinging together! Perhaps we should start a “swinging pride”! To let others in this world we are who we want to be, and aren’t here to be used and abused!! I am sick of how some people view single females, they can act and behave like I’m there on a plate for them! If I could have a £1 for every guy who has made an inappropriate pass, a couple who have spoke to me like I’m their toy, for every time I’ve said no and they haven’t stopped after the first no I’d be a millionaire!!
As though we should be honoured to be bossed around and used for their pleasure.
Sorry, I can't, I'm washing my hair. "After you with the shampoo... Ta. | |||
"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it swinging was a way for couples with the keys in a fruit bowl so how the hell you say there a difference between wife swapping and swinging you really are uneducated we met some decent singles and some wankers who my fella had to slap so we only play with couples but clubs have different nights to cator for everyone and every sceriano it's each to there own this site has been ruined by fakes and half wits there alot of couple profiles set up where it turns out just be the male but there are events out there for couples that arnt on fab for the single reason
He's uneducated?
Would you like me to correct the spelling and punctuation in your post?
I agree with the OP. Wife swapping is what started the whole scene off. Since then it's evolved into swinging.
Unfortunately there are way too many people, most often couples, trying to tell the rest of the world we have to do it their way.
Such narrow attitudes in what should be an open minded liberated environment perplex me.
Fae
its the male messaging now mate I don't care about spelling it was a moron comment and I've got my own scaffolding company which doesn't make me uneducated does it and yes there are couples stuck up there own arse but think the original post is just getting peoples say on it we don't have single males near us but doesn't mean we disagree with what they do i wouldn't myself I'm confident enough go out to bars and night clubs if I was single some see this has a meat market hence they need putting in place time to time that's why we only do clubs cos they just get thrown out simple really
I'm afraid you're everything we wouldn't want to meet in a couple.
Rude, offensive, aggressive - self confessed violent, ignorant and abusive.
Comments and behaviours like yours are an excellent filter.
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"I think things have changed from it just being about couples. I mostly meet single guys, and the ones who are part of the scene, it's obvious. There are unspoken ground rules, a wider social context, and a community. I actually find interaction with couples more stilted and challenging, including in clubs, than with other singles. The fuck now limited time scale demanding thing is also something that couples do with me... " Agree. Some couples think they “own” the scene | |||
"So I have asked myself before what is it to be swinger since joining the site? Is this label exclusively for couples or can anyone use it? So imo Swinging is swinging, whether couples to couples or female to male or couples to play! At the end of the day I’m certain we’re all looking for similar things.... swinging Definition: enjoyable, exciting and active.,,, I’m my honest opinion, variety is the spice of life! Fuck labels! Fuck society, fuck police lol fuck government, fuck brexit lol just fuck and practice safe x" I love everything you have said here lol - Mrs | |||
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The inclusion of singles to that dynamic adds for sure. Where singles then meet up together to purely have sex, I wouldn’t call that swinging. That’s just casual sex and using the medium to fulfil that goal.
Singles may become couples however...
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"I don't see how me being here dilutes things for couples. If you want to search for couples, search for couples. I'm not trying to take them away from you, and if they're looking for couples too, I'm not going to be on your or their radar. " For couples it dilutes it because if you go onto chat there will be say 10% couples. If you look through forum posts to find people who sound like a couple you might meet then you’ll get only a small number of couples. It dilutes in that way and you get tons of messages from single guys on chat so you avoid it. Couples pretty much have to use search which doesn’t give you the random element of chat. That’s how it dilutes. If we added 100,000 people to Fab who were only interested in trainspotting instead of sex then you’d find that would dilute the site for all those interested in casual sex. They wouldn’t share the same goals as you so would make it more difficult for you to find people in chat/forums. | |||
"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it swinging was a way for couples with the keys in a fruit bowl so how the hell you say there a difference between wife swapping and swinging you really are uneducated we met some decent singles and some wankers who my fella had to slap so we only play with couples but clubs have different nights to cator for everyone and every sceriano it's each to there own this site has been ruined by fakes and half wits there alot of couple profiles set up where it turns out just be the male but there are events out there for couples that arnt on fab for the single reason "Why stay then, if it's so bad? | |||
"I don't see how me being here dilutes things for couples. If you want to search for couples, search for couples. I'm not trying to take them away from you, and if they're looking for couples too, I'm not going to be on your or their radar. For couples it dilutes it because if you go onto chat there will be say 10% couples. If you look through forum posts to find people who sound like a couple you might meet then you’ll get only a small number of couples. It dilutes in that way and you get tons of messages from single guys on chat so you avoid it. Couples pretty much have to use search which doesn’t give you the random element of chat. That’s how it dilutes. If we added 100,000 people to Fab who were only interested in trainspotting instead of sex then you’d find that would dilute the site for all those interested in casual sex. They wouldn’t share the same goals as you so would make it more difficult for you to find people in chat/forums. "The singles don’t stop couples from joining. It’s not like there’s only so many available profiles. Block singles from messaging. Simple. Everyone has to search for what they’re looking for - why are you different? | |||
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"I don't see how me being here dilutes things for couples. If you want to search for couples, search for couples. I'm not trying to take them away from you, and if they're looking for couples too, I'm not going to be on your or their radar. For couples it dilutes it because if you go onto chat there will be say 10% couples. If you look through forum posts to find people who sound like a couple you might meet then you’ll get only a small number of couples. It dilutes in that way and you get tons of messages from single guys on chat so you avoid it. Couples pretty much have to use search which doesn’t give you the random element of chat. That’s how it dilutes. If we added 100,000 people to Fab who were only interested in trainspotting instead of sex then you’d find that would dilute the site for all those interested in casual sex. They wouldn’t share the same goals as you so would make it more difficult for you to find people in chat/forums.
The singles don’t stop couples from joining. It’s not like there’s only so many available profiles. Block singles from messaging. Simple.
Everyone has to search for what they’re looking for - why are you different? "Chat and random contact is also a way of meeting people. Some people might have settings so they don’t appear on search. Some people might be in an area you might not search. That’s what we mean. | |||
" Sorry but no, just no. I'm not an accessory for anyone's lifestyle, I do this for me, not to amuse a couple for a few hours. Very few forum posts piss me off as much as this one has, nobody should get to choose who can and can't be swingers, if I choose to join this lifestyle as a single, nobody is going to tell me I can't or that I'm just a 'visitor' because a couple honoured me with their time. You think single people don't have families, lives, homes, jobs to deal with too? We have all these things without the emotional and financial support of another person, that makes what we do just as risky, if not more so than for couples because if anything goes tits up, we haven't got the backup of another person. You need to give your head a wobble, couples are not superior in swinging, singles are not accessories for couples to use whenever they want and you have basically summed up why 'unicorns' are so rare, because of yours and other couples self righteous drivel. " As I said, I’m not looking to offend, I never said that singles are accessories or that couples are superior. I am also glad that singles choose this lifestyle but am trying to understand the difference between a single man being on this site (whether truly single or playing as single while still in a relationship) meeting a single woman or bi/gay man in fab or finding one in a pub,club or tinder like site. One thing I have learn from this post is that single women are more vocal and have a greater argument for being swingers in this site than the men. And again, not meaning to be derogatory, but your post made al lot of sense. If a single woman “sleeps around” they get the stigma of being a slut, if a single man “sleeps around” then he’s a stud. So women need the safety of an umbrella, a scene, a lifestyle where she has have multiple partners or meets and not be judged. I truly get that. | |||
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"I don't see how me being here dilutes things for couples. If you want to search for couples, search for couples. I'm not trying to take them away from you, and if they're looking for couples too, I'm not going to be on your or their radar. For couples it dilutes it because if you go onto chat there will be say 10% couples. If you look through forum posts to find people who sound like a couple you might meet then you’ll get only a small number of couples. It dilutes in that way and you get tons of messages from single guys on chat so you avoid it. Couples pretty much have to use search which doesn’t give you the random element of chat. That’s how it dilutes. If we added 100,000 people to Fab who were only interested in trainspotting instead of sex then you’d find that would dilute the site for all those interested in casual sex. They wouldn’t share the same goals as you so would make it more difficult for you to find people in chat/forums.
The singles don’t stop couples from joining. It’s not like there’s only so many available profiles. Block singles from messaging. Simple.
Everyone has to search for what they’re looking for - why are you different?
Chat and random contact is also a way of meeting people. Some people might have settings so they don’t appear on search. Some people might be in an area you might not search. That’s what we mean.
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"Ah the old 'couples are the gods of swinging and any singles must be grateful if they are chosen to be their play thing' argument
Never gets old.
Swinging is a lifestyle choice, A frame of mind.
You're argument that you have more to lose because you have loved ones and family is a bit far fetched. I too have friends and family that I could.lose should they find out that I like going to clubs where I can fuck as many people as I like or that I like people to spank me, flog me, cane me etc. I also have a job that I could potentially lose if it all came out and I was thought to bring the company's reputation into disrepute. That's pretty risky.
I've also seen about these forums at times that singles aren't swingers because if they meet someonw they might stop being swingers. Again, ridiculous. If your partner decided today that they didn't want to swing anymore I bet you'd stop so why does that make you any different to a single person?
Swinging has evolved from the old days of wife swapping. Move with the times!"This makes perfect sense without being rude to the original post or the OP. When I said that couples have more to lose, I meant that if the scene leads to a breakup of the relationship in any way, and it has been known, then we would lose our partner, our family (I meant children) and possibly family home, job etc. If one person decides they want to leave the scene, that too can cause frustration and arguments in the relationship, especially where one person was in the scene before they met. I am not needing to give my head a wobble as many are saying, I posted to hear the other views and I’m learning alot | |||
"I read a similar post a short while ago. Phrased a little differently in fairness. A couple ranting and railing about how singles weren't "real" swingers and had no place in the swinging community. Their attitude, sense of entitlement and self importance was extraordinary. On closer questioning it turned out originally they both had singles profiles on Fab and "met" here. They couldn't see how frankly fucking ridiculous there posturing was, nor how stupid it then made them look. I'm here to meet like minded people, be that single women or couples. I don't want, nor can I have, a traditional relationship. I can't go to the pub and find a couple to join, or a single woman who enjoys fucking while being watched by a room full of people. There's just no opening chat up line for that.
I think people confuse wife swapping with swinging.
One is something couples enjoy, the other is a wider, more open playground.
If you're calling wife swapping swinging, you're the one in the wrong.
Funny thing is, I'd never tell you you're doing it all wrong and have no place in the swinging community, I'd just accept you and let you get on with it.
Unlike many couples, who seem obsessed with making everyone "swing" their way.
Two pence spent.
you might tell them they're doing it all wrong, cmon admit it swinging was a way for couples with the keys in a fruit bowl so how the hell you say there a difference between wife swapping and swinging you really are uneducated we met some decent singles and some wankers who my fella had to slap so we only play with couples but clubs have different nights to cator for everyone and every sceriano it's each to there own this site has been ruined by fakes and half wits there alot of couple profiles set up where it turns out just be the male but there are events out there for couples that arnt on fab for the single reason
Why stay then, if it's so bad?"who says it's bad? | |||
"One point is that this and a few other sites are the only sites couples can go to meet other couples on the Internet. There are plenty of single people hookup sites which we, as a couple, can’t go on. So we get the OPs point. All the definitions of swinging we’ve seen talk about swapping your partner or group sex. If you’re a single person meeting another single person for casual sex then don’t think anyone would class that as swinging. If you’re a single joining group sex we’d say that’s different. Maybe there needs to be restrictive sites which only allow couples with no singles allowed. We know there’s filters but the sheer number of single guys esp does dilute the profiles and forum posts so makes it more difficult to randomly interact with other couples. We’ve seen bi or gay single men looking for bi or gay single men on here and we think that there must be better sites for that. Fab definitely covers a lot wider audience than say 10 years ago but we think it’s more difficult to meet couples now for other couples. Just our view and we’re not having a go at singles. " At last, somebody who sees my point. It’s not about being derogatory to any faction of the swinging scene but about trying to understand more. On another comment someone said that the influx of single men with the wrong attitude is becoming unbearable. I think that’s more the case. I think the problem as stated is the influx of people who can “shop” elsewhere. Single bi/gay looking for single bi/gay only. - GRINDER Single Male/female looking for single opposite sex - TINDER, POF Etc Couples meeting couples - fab Couples meeting singles- fab, tinder, pof Couples meeting bi singles - fab, Grinder Couples for group - fab Singles meeting couple, fab, tinder, pof Singles for group - fab PLEASE CORRECT THIS IS YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD Our problem is that with every good respectable single male we have chatted to, we have chatted to 50 who treat it like a meat market or fake profiles or a single man on a couples profile. Women on here are precious and have always been held in high regard by us. We always read their profiles and see what they are into and if similar to us then we would message and chat more.if not then we let them pass by and don’t try to persuade them to change for us. | |||
" Single bi/gay looking for single bi/gay only. - GRINDER Single Male/female looking for single opposite sex - TINDER, POF Etc Couples meeting couples - fab Couples meeting singles- fab, tinder, pof Couples meeting bi singles - fab, Grinder Couples for group - fab Singles meeting couple, fab, tinder, pof Singles for group - fab PLEASE CORRECT THIS IS YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD Our problem is that with every good respectable single male we have chatted to, we have chatted to 50 who treat it like a meat market or fake profiles or a single man on a couples profile. Women on here are precious and have always been held in high regard by us. We always read their profiles and see what they are into and if similar to us then we would message and chat more.if not then we let them pass by and don’t try to persuade them to change for us." Half of the sites you reference are intended for romantic relationships/dating. You can’t tell people they oughtn’t to be on here because it’s not intended for singles then tell us we should be using these sites if that’s not what we’re looking for. Maybe stop telling people where they should be and how to use the sites they’re on? | |||
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" Single bi/gay looking for single bi/gay only. - GRINDER Single Male/female looking for single opposite sex - TINDER, POF Etc Couples meeting couples - fab Couples meeting singles- fab, tinder, pof Couples meeting bi singles - fab, Grinder Couples for group - fab Singles meeting couple, fab, tinder, pof Singles for group - fab PLEASE CORRECT THIS IS YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD Our problem is that with every good respectable single male we have chatted to, we have chatted to 50 who treat it like a meat market or fake profiles or a single man on a couples profile. Women on here are precious and have always been held in high regard by us. We always read their profiles and see what they are into and if similar to us then we would message and chat more.if not then we let them pass by and don’t try to persuade them to change for us. Half of the sites you reference are intended for romantic relationships/dating. You can’t tell people they oughtn’t to be on here because it’s not intended for singles then tell us we should be using these sites if that’s not what we’re looking for. Maybe stop telling people where they should be and how to use the sites they’re on? " Yet again missing the point.... I said it about options. If you went Into a greengrocers shop you’d expect to see every type of fruit and veg for sale. You wouldn’t expect to see microwaves for sale, new sheds and tool sets. | |||
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" Single bi/gay looking for single bi/gay only. - GRINDER Single Male/female looking for single opposite sex - TINDER, POF Etc Couples meeting couples - fab Couples meeting singles- fab, tinder, pof Couples meeting bi singles - fab, Grinder Couples for group - fab Singles meeting couple, fab, tinder, pof Singles for group - fab PLEASE CORRECT THIS IS YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD Our problem is that with every good respectable single male we have chatted to, we have chatted to 50 who treat it like a meat market or fake profiles or a single man on a couples profile. Women on here are precious and have always been held in high regard by us. We always read their profiles and see what they are into and if similar to us then we would message and chat more.if not then we let them pass by and don’t try to persuade them to change for us. Half of the sites you reference are intended for romantic relationships/dating. You can’t tell people they oughtn’t to be on here because it’s not intended for singles then tell us we should be using these sites if that’s not what we’re looking for. Maybe stop telling people where they should be and how to use the sites they’re on? " Oh they can tell people where they should be, it's their right. They are after all, a couple..... 
The only people who have any right to tell me where I can and cannot be are the owners of the sites I choose to join.
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" Single bi/gay looking for single bi/gay only. - GRINDER Single Male/female looking for single opposite sex - TINDER, POF Etc Couples meeting couples - fab Couples meeting singles- fab, tinder, pof Couples meeting bi singles - fab, Grinder Couples for group - fab Singles meeting couple, fab, tinder, pof Singles for group - fab PLEASE CORRECT THIS IS YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD Our problem is that with every good respectable single male we have chatted to, we have chatted to 50 who treat it like a meat market or fake profiles or a single man on a couples profile. Women on here are precious and have always been held in high regard by us. We always read their profiles and see what they are into and if similar to us then we would message and chat more.if not then we let them pass by and don’t try to persuade them to change for us. Half of the sites you reference are intended for romantic relationships/dating. You can’t tell people they oughtn’t to be on here because it’s not intended for singles then tell us we should be using these sites if that’s not what we’re looking for. Maybe stop telling people where they should be and how to use the sites they’re on? Oh they can tell people where they should be, it's their right. They are after all, a couple.....
The only people who have any right to tell me where I can and cannot be are the owners of the sites I choose to join.
There, I said it."Amen. | |||
" Single bi/gay looking for single bi/gay only. - GRINDER Single Male/female looking for single opposite sex - TINDER, POF Etc Couples meeting couples - fab Couples meeting singles- fab, tinder, pof Couples meeting bi singles - fab, Grinder Couples for group - fab Singles meeting couple, fab, tinder, pof Singles for group - fab PLEASE CORRECT THIS IS YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD Our problem is that with every good respectable single male we have chatted to, we have chatted to 50 who treat it like a meat market or fake profiles or a single man on a couples profile. Women on here are precious and have always been held in high regard by us. We always read their profiles and see what they are into and if similar to us then we would message and chat more.if not then we let them pass by and don’t try to persuade them to change for us. Half of the sites you reference are intended for romantic relationships/dating. You can’t tell people they oughtn’t to be on here because it’s not intended for singles then tell us we should be using these sites if that’s not what we’re looking for. Maybe stop telling people where they should be and how to use the sites they’re on? Oh they can tell people where they should be, it's their right. They are after all, a couple.....
The only people who have any right to tell me where I can and cannot be are the owners of the sites I choose to join.
There, I said it.
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"Wow, this could ruffle some feathers! From my point of view: Yes I’m single, yes I could date on tinder/bumble/POF. But I’m wanting to play with people who are in this lifestyle, the real swingers and those who aren’t shocked that I want to have multiple men and women I want to sleep and socialise with! I’m also not here for the satisfaction for couples, nor am I a hook up for single males. I’m here to keep in touch with my large group of friends, attend clubs, parties and get to organised socials. Including attending festivals! I can be who I am, around people that don’t judge me, or my sexual choices. I feel comfortable, relaxed and more confident than I’ve ever been! It doesn’t matter if I’m classed as single/coupled/poly. I am a swinger, and I love this lifestyle, and it’s one I could never give up. As for risks, sadly it’s still seen as a stigma, and yes I could loose my job and alienate my family. Plus there is the added thing of who would want to be with a woman who wants to sleep with other people, what Vanilla people would class as a slut. So if anything, as a single woman, we have more risks than anyone. At least if you’re in a relationship, you should have a strong enough relationship before you enter the world of swinging. As for jealously, there is no place for that in this lifestyle. If you are careful who you meet and you’re honest with all parties involved there should be no jealousy!! So for me, this isn’t a place for me to ‘scratch my itch’ I live and breath this lifestyle. It’s a kind of hobby I guess, where I’m in touch with my sexual side! But only with people who are also in the same mindset as me. xx"Well said..I like this  | |||
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"I think our point was missed. Firstly in terms of jealousy, female plays and is bi, Male is a self appointed cuckold and doesn’t play or touch anyone but his female. Stable relationship and 100% trust on both side. Secondly, single males and females are well respected by us and we value them. The point I was trying to make is that singles only meeting singles have other option rather than fab. Single males that treat this as a meat market or single men on a couples profile have really made it difficult to find what we are looking for. We chatted with 56 males over two days. Over 40 of those wanted a quick fuck. Didn’t read or respect our profile choices or didn’t give in when we said no. We chatted to 3 people who we clicked with. Respectful, agreed boundaries and arranged a social meet. That is bad percentage and shows how the site has gone. I welcome single males and single females but single males need to be into the scene and not just treat it like a fuck fest. Those men that already respect this scene don’t need to respond and those that don’t won’t even be reading the forums, they’ll be wanking off in a cam room or bombarding girls and couples with unwanted dick pics" I agree with the points you're making. | |||
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"I think our point was missed. Firstly in terms of jealousy, female plays and is bi, Male is a self appointed cuckold and doesn’t play or touch anyone but his female. Stable relationship and 100% trust on both side. Secondly, single males and females are well respected by us and we value them. The point I was trying to make is that singles only meeting singles have other option rather than fab. Single males that treat this as a meat market or single men on a couples profile have really made it difficult to find what we are looking for. We chatted with 56 males over two days. Over 40 of those wanted a quick fuck. Didn’t read or respect our profile choices or didn’t give in when we said no. We chatted to 3 people who we clicked with. Respectful, agreed boundaries and arranged a social meet. That is bad percentage and shows how the site has gone. I welcome single males and single females but single males need to be into the scene and not just treat it like a fuck fest. Those men that already respect this scene don’t need to respond and those that don’t won’t even be reading the forums, they’ll be wanking off in a cam room or bombarding girls and couples with unwanted dick pics I agree with the points you're making. " I’m glad it’s not just me and I’m glad a woman sees it our way too as I was beginning to feel really out of place here. We’ve been to many clubs in the uk and ireland and most clubs are set up for couples with single men being limited to certain numbers due to the whole “it’s a guaranteed fuck” mentality. Single women on here definitely have the most respect as they are the most vulnerable and single men and couples both aim to protect them and safeguard them but there are always a few who will take advantage. Single men are also welcome here but in my opinion they should focus their time in here as being part of s couples scene rather than just looking for a quickie. Sorry but I’d say 80% of single male profiles are aimed at getting a d*unken fuck after a night out rather than accepting and respecting a couples boundaries and requirements. If a male wants to live a fantasy, then put it as your status and if a couple or female are willing to help you out then they’ll get in touch but please don’t push your fantasies on people who are looking for something different. It’s just common courtesy and respect | |||
" I’m glad it’s not just me and I’m glad a woman sees it our way too as I was beginning to feel really out of place here. We’ve been to many clubs in the uk and ireland and most clubs are set up for couples with single men being limited to certain numbers due to the whole “it’s a guaranteed fuck” mentality. Single women on here definitely have the most respect as they are the most vulnerable and single men and couples both aim to protect them and safeguard them but there are always a few who will take advantage. Single men are also welcome here but in my opinion they should focus their time in here as being part of s couples scene rather than just looking for a quickie. Sorry but I’d say 80% of single male profiles are aimed at getting a d*unken fuck after a night out rather than accepting and respecting a couples boundaries and requirements. If a male wants to live a fantasy, then put it as your status and if a couple or female are willing to help you out then they’ll get in touch but please don’t push your fantasies on people who are looking for something different. It’s just common courtesy and respect " You keep mentioning the couples scene, it isn't just a couples scene! You say don't push your fantasies on people who want something different, you're telling people who want something different that they should be on other sites. Us singles that are swingers haven't got another site that suits us, most of the sites you mentioned are dating sites, I don't want to date so where exactly do you think I should go? You seem to have backtracked quite abit since your original post, you say now that you respect singles but in your op you said we are just 'visitors' to your scene. That isn't very respectful. You honestly have a really shitty attitude to singles. | |||
" I’m glad it’s not just me and I’m glad a woman sees it our way too as I was beginning to feel really out of place here. We’ve been to many clubs in the uk and ireland and most clubs are set up for couples with single men being limited to certain numbers due to the whole “it’s a guaranteed fuck” mentality. Single women on here definitely have the most respect as they are the most vulnerable and single men and couples both aim to protect them and safeguard them but there are always a few who will take advantage. Single men are also welcome here but in my opinion they should focus their time in here as being part of s couples scene rather than just looking for a quickie. Sorry but I’d say 80% of single male profiles are aimed at getting a d*unken fuck after a night out rather than accepting and respecting a couples boundaries and requirements. If a male wants to live a fantasy, then put it as your status and if a couple or female are willing to help you out then they’ll get in touch but please don’t push your fantasies on people who are looking for something different. It’s just common courtesy and respect You keep mentioning the couples scene, it isn't just a couples scene! You say don't push your fantasies on people who want something different, you're telling people who want something different that they should be on other sites. Us singles that are swingers haven't got another site that suits us, most of the sites you mentioned are dating sites, I don't want to date so where exactly do you think I should go? You seem to have backtracked quite abit since your original post, you say now that you respect singles but in your op you said we are just 'visitors' to your scene. That isn't very respectful. You honestly have a really shitty attitude to singles. " I notice the OPs looking for single men and women. Let's hope their prospective meets don't see this post. | |||
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" I’m glad it’s not just me and I’m glad a woman sees it our way too as I was beginning to feel really out of place here. We’ve been to many clubs in the uk and ireland and most clubs are set up for couples with single men being limited to certain numbers due to the whole “it’s a guaranteed fuck” mentality. Single women on here definitely have the most respect as they are the most vulnerable and single men and couples both aim to protect them and safeguard them but there are always a few who will take advantage. Single men are also welcome here but in my opinion they should focus their time in here as being part of s couples scene rather than just looking for a quickie. Sorry but I’d say 80% of single male profiles are aimed at getting a d*unken fuck after a night out rather than accepting and respecting a couples boundaries and requirements. If a male wants to live a fantasy, then put it as your status and if a couple or female are willing to help you out then they’ll get in touch but please don’t push your fantasies on people who are looking for something different. It’s just common courtesy and respect You keep mentioning the couples scene, it isn't just a couples scene! You say don't push your fantasies on people who want something different, you're telling people who want something different that they should be on other sites. Us singles that are swingers haven't got another site that suits us, most of the sites you mentioned are dating sites, I don't want to date so where exactly do you think I should go? You seem to have backtracked quite abit since your original post, you say now that you respect singles but in your op you said we are just 'visitors' to your scene. That isn't very respectful. You honestly have a really shitty attitude to singles. " As stated above, it's not just for couples. What would you do for your mmf or ffm without singles on the scene? I'm assuming you would borrow someone's male or female partner to 'join' you then. How insulting for them. | |||
"I think our point was missed. Firstly in terms of jealousy, female plays and is bi, Male is a self appointed cuckold and doesn’t play or touch anyone but his female. Stable relationship and 100% trust on both side. Secondly, single males and females are well respected by us and we value them. The point I was trying to make is that singles only meeting singles have other option rather than fab. Single males that treat this as a meat market or single men on a couples profile have really made it difficult to find what we are looking for. We chatted with 56 males over two days. Over 40 of those wanted a quick fuck. Didn’t read or respect our profile choices or didn’t give in when we said no. We chatted to 3 people who we clicked with. Respectful, agreed boundaries and arranged a social meet. That is bad percentage and shows how the site has gone. I welcome single males and single females but single males need to be into the scene and not just treat it like a fuck fest. Those men that already respect this scene don’t need to respond and those that don’t won’t even be reading the forums, they’ll be wanking off in a cam room or bombarding girls and couples with unwanted dick pics I agree with the points you're making. I’m glad it’s not just me and I’m glad a woman sees it our way too as I was beginning to feel really out of place here. We’ve been to many clubs in the uk and ireland and most clubs are set up for couples with single men being limited to certain numbers due to the whole “it’s a guaranteed fuck” mentality. Single women on here definitely have the most respect as they are the most vulnerable and single men and couples both aim to protect them and safeguard them but there are always a few who will take advantage. Single men are also welcome here but in my opinion they should focus their time in here as being part of s couples scene rather than just looking for a quickie. Sorry but I’d say 80% of single male profiles are aimed at getting a d*unken fuck after a night out rather than accepting and respecting a couples boundaries and requirements. If a male wants to live a fantasy, then put it as your status and if a couple or female are willing to help you out then they’ll get in touch but please don’t push your fantasies on people who are looking for something different. It’s just common courtesy and respect " You say "singles should focus their time in here as being part of s couples scene". Any suggestions how we singles go about becoming a couple scene? If only there was a website out there where we could make that happen....... | |||
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"I think our point was missed. Firstly in terms of jealousy, female plays and is bi, Male is a self appointed cuckold and doesn’t play or touch anyone but his female. Stable relationship and 100% trust on both side. Secondly, single males and females are well respected by us and we value them. The point I was trying to make is that singles only meeting singles have other option rather than fab. Single males that treat this as a meat market or single men on a couples profile have really made it difficult to find what we are looking for. We chatted with 56 males over two days. Over 40 of those wanted a quick fuck. Didn’t read or respect our profile choices or didn’t give in when we said no. We chatted to 3 people who we clicked with. Respectful, agreed boundaries and arranged a social meet. That is bad percentage and shows how the site has gone. I welcome single males and single females but single males need to be into the scene and not just treat it like a fuck fest. Those men that already respect this scene don’t need to respond and those that don’t won’t even be reading the forums, they’ll be wanking off in a cam room or bombarding girls and couples with unwanted dick pics I agree with the points you're making. I’m glad it’s not just me and I’m glad a woman sees it our way too as I was beginning to feel really out of place here. We’ve been to many clubs in the uk and ireland and most clubs are set up for couples with single men being limited to certain numbers due to the whole “it’s a guaranteed fuck” mentality. Single women on here definitely have the most respect as they are the most vulnerable and single men and couples both aim to protect them and safeguard them but there are always a few who will take advantage. Single men are also welcome here but in my opinion they should focus their time in here as being part of s couples scene rather than just looking for a quickie. Sorry but I’d say 80% of single male profiles are aimed at getting a d*unken fuck after a night out rather than accepting and respecting a couples boundaries and requirements. If a male wants to live a fantasy, then put it as your status and if a couple or female are willing to help you out then they’ll get in touch but please don’t push your fantasies on people who are looking for something different. It’s just common courtesy and respect " You see that last sentence of your post? I suggest you use a bit of it. E | |||
"I think our point was missed. Firstly in terms of jealousy, female plays and is bi, Male is a self appointed cuckold and doesn’t play or touch anyone but his female. Stable relationship and 100% trust on both side. Secondly, single males and females are well respected by us and we value them. The point I was trying to make is that singles only meeting singles have other option rather than fab. Single males that treat this as a meat market or single men on a couples profile have really made it difficult to find what we are looking for. We chatted with 56 males over two days. Over 40 of those wanted a quick fuck. Didn’t read or respect our profile choices or didn’t give in when we said no. We chatted to 3 people who we clicked with. Respectful, agreed boundaries and arranged a social meet. That is bad percentage and shows how the site has gone. I welcome single males and single females but single males need to be into the scene and not just treat it like a fuck fest. Those men that already respect this scene don’t need to respond and those that don’t won’t even be reading the forums, they’ll be wanking off in a cam room or bombarding girls and couples with unwanted dick pics I agree with the points you're making. I’m glad it’s not just me and I’m glad a woman sees it our way too as I was beginning to feel really out of place here. We’ve been to many clubs in the uk and ireland and most clubs are set up for couples with single men being limited to certain numbers due to the whole “it’s a guaranteed fuck” mentality. Single women on here definitely have the most respect as they are the most vulnerable and single men and couples both aim to protect them and safeguard them but there are always a few who will take advantage. Single men are also welcome here but in my opinion they should focus their time in here as being part of s couples scene rather than just looking for a quickie. Sorry but I’d say 80% of single male profiles are aimed at getting a d*unken fuck after a night out rather than accepting and respecting a couples boundaries and requirements. If a male wants to live a fantasy, then put it as your status and if a couple or female are willing to help you out then they’ll get in touch but please don’t push your fantasies on people who are looking for something different. It’s just common courtesy and respect You say "singles should focus their time in here as being part of s couples scene". Any suggestions how we singles go about becoming a couple scene? If only there was a website out there where we could make that happen....... " Oh wait... There is... Its called fab something or other.. Ah the other word is swingers. Fabswingers, that's the one. By the way, I'd couple with you Mr Byron, but your shirts are way too dodgy. | |||
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"I think our point was missed. Firstly in terms of jealousy, female plays and is bi, Male is a self appointed cuckold and doesn’t play or touch anyone but his female. Stable relationship and 100% trust on both side. Secondly, single males and females are well respected by us and we value them. The point I was trying to make is that singles only meeting singles have other option rather than fab. Single males that treat this as a meat market or single men on a couples profile have really made it difficult to find what we are looking for. We chatted with 56 males over two days. Over 40 of those wanted a quick fuck. Didn’t read or respect our profile choices or didn’t give in when we said no. We chatted to 3 people who we clicked with. Respectful, agreed boundaries and arranged a social meet. That is bad percentage and shows how the site has gone. I welcome single males and single females but single males need to be into the scene and not just treat it like a fuck fest. Those men that already respect this scene don’t need to respond and those that don’t won’t even be reading the forums, they’ll be wanking off in a cam room or bombarding girls and couples with unwanted dick pics I agree with the points you're making. I’m glad it’s not just me and I’m glad a woman sees it our way too as I was beginning to feel really out of place here. We’ve been to many clubs in the uk and ireland and most clubs are set up for couples with single men being limited to certain numbers due to the whole “it’s a guaranteed fuck” mentality. Single women on here definitely have the most respect as they are the most vulnerable and single men and couples both aim to protect them and safeguard them but there are always a few who will take advantage. Single men are also welcome here but in my opinion they should focus their time in here as being part of s couples scene rather than just looking for a quickie. Sorry but I’d say 80% of single male profiles are aimed at getting a d*unken fuck after a night out rather than accepting and respecting a couples boundaries and requirements. If a male wants to live a fantasy, then put it as your status and if a couple or female are willing to help you out then they’ll get in touch but please don’t push your fantasies on people who are looking for something different. It’s just common courtesy and respect You say "singles should focus their time in here as being part of s couples scene". Any suggestions how we singles go about becoming a couple scene? If only there was a website out there where we could make that happen....... Oh wait... There is... Its called fab something or other.. Ah the other word is swingers. Fabswingers, that's the one. By the way, I'd couple with you Mr Byron, but your shirts are way too dodgy. "Ah booger, they're my USP. | |||
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"Rude people come in every demographic. Including rude couples! " Agree! So basically the OP thinks that singles should be grateful that couples allow them to play. If that was the case this site and clubs would be couples only, which they arent. | |||
"I think our point was missed. Firstly in terms of jealousy, female plays and is bi, Male is a self appointed cuckold and doesn’t play or touch anyone but his female. Stable relationship and 100% trust on both side. Secondly, single males and females are well respected by us and we value them. The point I was trying to make is that singles only meeting singles have other option rather than fab. Single males that treat this as a meat market or single men on a couples profile have really made it difficult to find what we are looking for. We chatted with 56 males over two days. Over 40 of those wanted a quick fuck. Didn’t read or respect our profile choices or didn’t give in when we said no. We chatted to 3 people who we clicked with. Respectful, agreed boundaries and arranged a social meet. That is bad percentage and shows how the site has gone. I welcome single males and single females but single males need to be into the scene and not just treat it like a fuck fest. Those men that already respect this scene don’t need to respond and those that don’t won’t even be reading the forums, they’ll be wanking off in a cam room or bombarding girls and couples with unwanted dick pics I agree with the points you're making. I’m glad it’s not just me and I’m glad a woman sees it our way too as I was beginning to feel really out of place here. We’ve been to many clubs in the uk and ireland and most clubs are set up for couples with single men being limited to certain numbers due to the whole “it’s a guaranteed fuck” mentality. Single women on here definitely have the most respect as they are the most vulnerable and single men and couples both aim to protect them and safeguard them but there are always a few who will take advantage. Single men are also welcome here but in my opinion they should focus their time in here as being part of s couples scene rather than just looking for a quickie. Sorry but I’d say 80% of single male profiles are aimed at getting a d*unken fuck after a night out rather than accepting and respecting a couples boundaries and requirements. If a male wants to live a fantasy, then put it as your status and if a couple or female are willing to help you out then they’ll get in touch but please don’t push your fantasies on people who are looking for something different. It’s just common courtesy and respect You say "singles should focus their time in here as being part of s couples scene". Any suggestions how we singles go about becoming a couple scene? If only there was a website out there where we could make that happen....... Oh wait... There is... Its called fab something or other.. Ah the other word is swingers. Fabswingers, that's the one. By the way, I'd couple with you Mr Byron, but your shirts are way too dodgy.
Ah booger, they're my USP. " | |||
"Rude people come in every demographic. Including rude couples! Agree! So basically the OP thinks that singles should be grateful that couples allow them to play. If that was the case this site and clubs would be couples only, which they arent." Indeed. And it's quite, well, rude of them. One of the reasons I can be wary of couples tbh. Some do have this attitude that I should be grateful. Sod that. | |||
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"Rude people come in every demographic. Including rude couples! Agree! So basically the OP thinks that singles should be grateful that couples allow them to play. If that was the case this site and clubs would be couples only, which they arent." We are a couple. The OPs viewpoint is not the same as ours. Just wanted to put that out there. M | |||
"Rude people come in every demographic. Including rude couples! Agree! So basically the OP thinks that singles should be grateful that couples allow them to play. If that was the case this site and clubs would be couples only, which they arent. We are a couple. The OPs viewpoint is not the same as ours. Just wanted to put that out there. M" Definitely understand that the OP doesn't speak for all couples. | |||
"Rude people come in every demographic. Including rude couples! Agree! So basically the OP thinks that singles should be grateful that couples allow them to play. If that was the case this site and clubs would be couples only, which they arent. We are a couple. The OPs viewpoint is not the same as ours. Just wanted to put that out there. M Definitely understand that the OP doesn't speak for all couples. " | |||
"Rude people come in every demographic. Including rude couples! Agree! So basically the OP thinks that singles should be grateful that couples allow them to play. If that was the case this site and clubs would be couples only, which they arent. We are a couple. The OPs viewpoint is not the same as ours. Just wanted to put that out there. M" And so are we. We definitely do not agree with the op. | |||
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"Rude people come in every demographic. Including rude couples! Agree! So basically the OP thinks that singles should be grateful that couples allow them to play. If that was the case this site and clubs would be couples only, which they arent. We are a couple. The OPs viewpoint is not the same as ours. Just wanted to put that out there. M Definitely understand that the OP doesn't speak for all couples. " | |||
"Phew...... Didn't want to be tarred with the same brush.
M"Oh god no. I take people/ couples individually. | |||
"Phew...... Didn't want to be tarred with the same brush.
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Oh god no. I take people/ couples individually. "What she said ^^^ | |||
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"I think our point was missed. Firstly in terms of jealousy, female plays and is bi, Male is a self appointed cuckold and doesn’t play or touch anyone but his female. Stable relationship and 100% trust on both side. Secondly, single males and females are well respected by us and we value them. The point I was trying to make is that singles only meeting singles have other option rather than fab. Single males that treat this as a meat market or single men on a couples profile have really made it difficult to find what we are looking for. We chatted with 56 males over two days. Over 40 of those wanted a quick fuck. Didn’t read or respect our profile choices or didn’t give in when we said no. We chatted to 3 people who we clicked with. Respectful, agreed boundaries and arranged a social meet. That is bad percentage and shows how the site has gone. I welcome single males and single females but single males need to be into the scene and not just treat it like a fuck fest. Those men that already respect this scene don’t need to respond and those that don’t won’t even be reading the forums, they’ll be wanking off in a cam room or bombarding girls and couples with unwanted dick pics I agree with the points you're making. I’m glad it’s not just me and I’m glad a woman sees it our way too as I was beginning to feel really out of place here. We’ve been to many clubs in the uk and ireland and most clubs are set up for couples with single men being limited to certain numbers due to the whole “it’s a guaranteed fuck” mentality. Single women on here definitely have the most respect as they are the most vulnerable and single men and couples both aim to protect them and safeguard them but there are always a few who will take advantage. Single men are also welcome here but in my opinion they should focus their time in here as being part of s couples scene rather than just looking for a quickie. Sorry but I’d say 80% of single male profiles are aimed at getting a d*unken fuck after a night out rather than accepting and respecting a couples boundaries and requirements. If a male wants to live a fantasy, then put it as your status and if a couple or female are willing to help you out then they’ll get in touch but please don’t push your fantasies on people who are looking for something different. It’s just common courtesy and respect " Are you the man or the woman posting? I agree with the respect thing. Unfortunately that's the same on all sites. Many men wanting just a quick fuck. At least on here they are honest about it- on dating sites they lie about wanting more when they just want to get their dick wet. I don't agree that it's a couples scene. It used to be but I think it's evolved from that - if it was just a couples scene it would always just be full swap 4somes. I think some people understand what swinging is and some think it's just fucking anyone who asks. It seems to be mostly men who think the latter. Some men *do* understand swinging and the dynamics of joining a couple. I think they are easy to spot because the disrespectful ones are so open with their views they 'hang' themselves early on in conversations. And that's why many single women like this site. | |||
"I think our point was missed. Firstly in terms of jealousy, female plays and is bi, Male is a self appointed cuckold and doesn’t play or touch anyone but his female. Stable relationship and 100% trust on both side. Secondly, single males and females are well respected by us and we value them. The point I was trying to make is that singles only meeting singles have other option rather than fab. Single males that treat this as a meat market or single men on a couples profile have really made it difficult to find what we are looking for. We chatted with 56 males over two days. Over 40 of those wanted a quick fuck. Didn’t read or respect our profile choices or didn’t give in when we said no. We chatted to 3 people who we clicked with. Respectful, agreed boundaries and arranged a social meet. That is bad percentage and shows how the site has gone. I welcome single males and single females but single males need to be into the scene and not just treat it like a fuck fest. Those men that already respect this scene don’t need to respond and those that don’t won’t even be reading the forums, they’ll be wanking off in a cam room or bombarding girls and couples with unwanted dick pics I agree with the points you're making. I’m glad it’s not just me and I’m glad a woman sees it our way too as I was beginning to feel really out of place here. We’ve been to many clubs in the uk and ireland and most clubs are set up for couples with single men being limited to certain numbers due to the whole “it’s a guaranteed fuck” mentality. Single women on here definitely have the most respect as they are the most vulnerable and single men and couples both aim to protect them and safeguard them but there are always a few who will take advantage. Single men are also welcome here but in my opinion they should focus their time in here as being part of s couples scene rather than just looking for a quickie. Sorry but I’d say 80% of single male profiles are aimed at getting a d*unken fuck after a night out rather than accepting and respecting a couples boundaries and requirements. If a male wants to live a fantasy, then put it as your status and if a couple or female are willing to help you out then they’ll get in touch but please don’t push your fantasies on people who are looking for something different. It’s just common courtesy and respect Are you the man or the woman posting? I agree with the respect thing. Unfortunately that's the same on all sites. Many men wanting just a quick fuck. At least on here they are honest about it- on dating sites they lie about wanting more when they just want to get their dick wet. I don't agree that it's a couples scene. It used to be but I think it's evolved from that - if it was just a couples scene it would always just be full swap 4somes. I think some people understand what swinging is and some think it's just fucking anyone who asks. It seems to be mostly men who think the latter. Some men *do* understand swinging and the dynamics of joining a couple. I think they are easy to spot because the disrespectful ones are so open with their views they 'hang' themselves early on in conversations. And that's why many single women like this site. " | |||
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"I think our point was missed. Firstly in terms of jealousy, female plays and is bi, Male is a self appointed cuckold and doesn’t play or touch anyone but his female. Stable relationship and 100% trust on both side. Secondly, single males and females are well respected by us and we value them. The point I was trying to make is that singles only meeting singles have other option rather than fab. Single males that treat this as a meat market or single men on a couples profile have really made it difficult to find what we are looking for. We chatted with 56 males over two days. Over 40 of those wanted a quick fuck. Didn’t read or respect our profile choices or didn’t give in when we said no. We chatted to 3 people who we clicked with. Respectful, agreed boundaries and arranged a social meet. That is bad percentage and shows how the site has gone. I welcome single males and single females but single males need to be into the scene and not just treat it like a fuck fest. Those men that already respect this scene don’t need to respond and those that don’t won’t even be reading the forums, they’ll be wanking off in a cam room or bombarding girls and couples with unwanted dick pics I agree with the points you're making. I’m glad it’s not just me and I’m glad a woman sees it our way too as I was beginning to feel really out of place here. We’ve been to many clubs in the uk and ireland and most clubs are set up for couples with single men being limited to certain numbers due to the whole “it’s a guaranteed fuck” mentality. Single women on here definitely have the most respect as they are the most vulnerable and single men and couples both aim to protect them and safeguard them but there are always a few who will take advantage. Single men are also welcome here but in my opinion they should focus their time in here as being part of s couples scene rather than just looking for a quickie. Sorry but I’d say 80% of single male profiles are aimed at getting a d*unken fuck after a night out rather than accepting and respecting a couples boundaries and requirements. If a male wants to live a fantasy, then put it as your status and if a couple or female are willing to help you out then they’ll get in touch but please don’t push your fantasies on people who are looking for something different. It’s just common courtesy and respect Are you the man or the woman posting? I agree with the respect thing. Unfortunately that's the same on all sites. Many men wanting just a quick fuck. At least on here they are honest about it- on dating sites they lie about wanting more when they just want to get their dick wet. I don't agree that it's a couples scene. It used to be but I think it's evolved from that - if it was just a couples scene it would always just be full swap 4somes. I think some people understand what swinging is and some think it's just fucking anyone who asks. It seems to be mostly men who think the latter. Some men *do* understand swinging and the dynamics of joining a couple. I think they are easy to spot because the disrespectful ones are so open with their views they 'hang' themselves early on in conversations. And that's why many single women like this site. "Both Male and female posting, but initial post was from the female. Single women and couples are not the problem on here, it is mainly single men or fake couples profiles (ran by a single male). Our point was that now we have to through the chancers to find a genuine meet, whereas 10 years ago it was easy to arrange quality meets with likeminded respectful single men or couples. | |||
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"I think our point was missed. Firstly in terms of jealousy, female plays and is bi, Male is a self appointed cuckold and doesn’t play or touch anyone but his female. Stable relationship and 100% trust on both side. Secondly, single males and females are well respected by us and we value them. The point I was trying to make is that singles only meeting singles have other option rather than fab. Single males that treat this as a meat market or single men on a couples profile have really made it difficult to find what we are looking for. We chatted with 56 males over two days. Over 40 of those wanted a quick fuck. Didn’t read or respect our profile choices or didn’t give in when we said no. We chatted to 3 people who we clicked with. Respectful, agreed boundaries and arranged a social meet. That is bad percentage and shows how the site has gone. I welcome single males and single females but single males need to be into the scene and not just treat it like a fuck fest. Those men that already respect this scene don’t need to respond and those that don’t won’t even be reading the forums, they’ll be wanking off in a cam room or bombarding girls and couples with unwanted dick pics I agree with the points you're making. I’m glad it’s not just me and I’m glad a woman sees it our way too as I was beginning to feel really out of place here. We’ve been to many clubs in the uk and ireland and most clubs are set up for couples with single men being limited to certain numbers due to the whole “it’s a guaranteed fuck” mentality. Single women on here definitely have the most respect as they are the most vulnerable and single men and couples both aim to protect them and safeguard them but there are always a few who will take advantage. Single men are also welcome here but in my opinion they should focus their time in here as being part of s couples scene rather than just looking for a quickie. Sorry but I’d say 80% of single male profiles are aimed at getting a d*unken fuck after a night out rather than accepting and respecting a couples boundaries and requirements. If a male wants to live a fantasy, then put it as your status and if a couple or female are willing to help you out then they’ll get in touch but please don’t push your fantasies on people who are looking for something different. It’s just common courtesy and respect Are you the man or the woman posting? I agree with the respect thing. Unfortunately that's the same on all sites. Many men wanting just a quick fuck. At least on here they are honest about it- on dating sites they lie about wanting more when they just want to get their dick wet. I don't agree that it's a couples scene. It used to be but I think it's evolved from that - if it was just a couples scene it would always just be full swap 4somes. I think some people understand what swinging is and some think it's just fucking anyone who asks. It seems to be mostly men who think the latter. Some men *do* understand swinging and the dynamics of joining a couple. I think they are easy to spot because the disrespectful ones are so open with their views they 'hang' themselves early on in conversations. And that's why many single women like this site.
Both Male and female posting, but initial post was from the female. Single women and couples are not the problem on here, it is mainly single men or fake couples profiles (ran by a single male).
Our point was that now we have to through the chancers to find a genuine meet, whereas 10 years ago it was easy to arrange quality meets with likeminded respectful single men or couples."I've been on here 10 years both with single and couple profiles. I think there's more men wanting a quick fuck but I think they're easier to spot now. You wondered why it's mostly single women replying- the 'wanking men' don't use the forums. They are too busy looking at the pics, having a wank and creating fake couples profiles.
But seriously, those types of men very rarely use the forums. They just want a fuck. They think chatting to people is a waste of time. Forums are a kind of chatting. No point chatting when their balls need emptying before the wife gets home. 
I always chat to the men if we're meeting as a couple. I suss them out, maybe have a social. I want to prove that I'm real (and we're not a fake couple profile). I trust my gut and if I get any sniff of them not being what we're looking for I just wish them well with someone else. We've never been stood up or had a dodgy meet.
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"I find it very strange that most of the singles commenting on this post are in fact single females. The single females and some of the single males are not the problem or the focus of this post. It’s very much a reactive post aimed at those single males and fake couple profiles (ran by a single male) who treat the site like a quick fuck catalogue. When we accommodate ANYONE at ours, and it’s predominantly single males, we respect them as much as we would want them to respect us. The cuckold takes a back seat and allows the Male and the Mrs to bind and all three of us have a chat and a banter. We respect their wishes and discuss lots of fantasies and rules. The main issue is the guys that talk the talk, turn up half shit and want to leave within the hour, even after discussing the scenario. Or the men that arrange a meet and then just don’t turn up. There are plenty of these and especially in Ireland, the number of single men that are adding new profiles and then within 5 minutes send messages like “wanna fuck now, can be there in 10 minutes” or “I’ll Fuck you but only when you are in your own”. These comments are disrespectful and show their full intentions for joining the site. I’ve been on fab for nearly 10 years and it was always respectful with likeminded people. Read a profile and if it matches your wants then make contact, if not just leave them alone and move on. Questions and respect. That’s how it used to be. I more than welcome singles on here but only if they are genuinely interested in the scene. Not ones that need to just empty themselves and have ran out of other options. Single females have never been disrespectful to us and we have never been disrespectful to anyone. Even when declining a meet we have always said “not for us, sorry. But good luck fabbing”" Sounds like you're consistently having a lot of problems with single men. Maybe it's your selection criteria. We've had literally dozens of meets with single men and never had a problem. We've also met single men at clubs, again, no problem. Interesting that you view a couples profile run by the male half is fake. That's exactly how we run our profile. We'd best go UNLOS asap. M | |||
" Interesting that you view a couples profile run by the male half is fake. That's exactly how we run our profile. We'd best go UNLOS asap. M" Never said a couples profile run by the Male HALF is fake, I said a couples profile ran by a single male. Arrange to meet the couple and the man said that she doesn’t play but he can meet alone, or make excuses about his “partner” that never ever exists or materialises. Even had a couple meet where only the Male turned up and it wasn’t even his picture on the profile. He never made it through the door. | |||
" Interesting that you view a couples profile run by the male half is fake. That's exactly how we run our profile. We'd best go UNLOS asap. M Never said a couples profile run by the Male HALF is fake, I said a couples profile ran by a single male. Arrange to meet the couple and the man said that she doesn’t play but he can meet alone, or make excuses about his “partner” that never ever exists or materialises. Even had a couple meet where only the Male turned up and it wasn’t even his picture on the profile. He never made it through the door." Did you talk to them both on the phone or cam with them both before arranging to meet them? That usually gets rid of the ones who aren't genuine. | |||
"I do wonder if this is where some couples go wrong and put so called unicorns off, by assuming they're in a higher class or league. If I'm a plaything to be brought in rather than an equal, I'm not playing. " I agree, and speak from my experiences of being a single guy in clubs; many couples waft around the place with that “We’re a couple you know” air of superiority about them, so thick it’s almost like a force field, and they sit back waiting for people to make the first move. The amount of negativity I’ve received, from couples in clubs, almost put me off the club scene altogether. There’s definitely a huge difference in chatting with couples through Fab, getting to know each other, before arranging a meet, than listening to the club ‘fluffers’ in here, harp on about “just go to a club, it’s so much easier than using Fab, everyone is so friendly, and there for the same reasons you are, you won’t regret it.......”
I’ve always found single guys in clubs to be the friendliest demographic in there, basically because nobody was talking to them either, so it’s easy to strike up conversation with someone in the same situation you are. I’ve met so few single women in clubs, they aren’t my primary ‘target’ (if it’s ok to use that term) anymore, but I would be happy to meet them......
Don’t get me wrong; singles (male and female), can, and do, have fun in the clubs with couples. I just find it far easier meeting couples through Fab for private meets
Am I a ‘swinger’? Probably not, from a couple’s point of view. Am I bothered I don’t make the grade for the moniker? Not at all. I’m just having fun living my life my way | |||
" Interesting that you view a couples profile run by the male half is fake. That's exactly how we run our profile. We'd best go UNLOS asap. M Never said a couples profile run by the Male HALF is fake, I said a couples profile ran by a single male. Arrange to meet the couple and the man said that she doesn’t play but he can meet alone, or make excuses about his “partner” that never ever exists or materialises. Even had a couple meet where only the Male turned up and it wasn’t even his picture on the profile. He never made it through the door. Did you talk to them both on the phone or cam with them both before arranging to meet them? That usually gets rid of the ones who aren't genuine. " This occasion was a spontaneous meet after chatting on fab for a few hours, so yeah was our fault, but even when chatting on fab, so many single males pretending to be couples and have ed about 20 out so far just in Ireland. | |||
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"To us, swinging is a « mindset » - and the outlook on life and social aspect of that is as integral as the sex. The people that use this site to hook up and have sex are not, imho, swingers. Just people that want to get a leg over. But fair dues, it’s a great place to achieve that as well." It is what you want it to be on here. | |||
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"For me as a single lady it's swinging. The main difference with Fab is that I come here with some degree of assurance that the people I chat to are after a swinging relationship (of sorts) if thats what they're after, rather than a monogamous, vanilla one. I think it's very difficult to explain to most guys on Tinder that you like to share. The ones who are ok with that generally don't understand the swinging mentality that just because you may sleep with others, it doesnt mean it's a free for all with no honesty and openness. " | |||
" Interesting that you view a couples profile run by the male half is fake. That's exactly how we run our profile. We'd best go UNLOS asap. M Never said a couples profile run by the Male HALF is fake, I said a couples profile ran by a single male. Arrange to meet the couple and the man said that she doesn’t play but he can meet alone, or make excuses about his “partner” that never ever exists or materialises. Even had a couple meet where only the Male turned up and it wasn’t even his picture on the profile. He never made it through the door." "Couples profile run by the Male HALF is fake, I said a couples profile ran by a single male." What's the difference? E | |||
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