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I had one guy admit he married without her knowing so I explained that me and my wife are recently married and don't believe in cheating and won't meet anyone how is. He next response was we can still meet as long as I don't tell my wife he is married. It was like the lies were just second nature / roll off the tongue. I explained I don't lie or hide anything from my wife and she has equal access to our fab account so can see his messages.
Me and my wife have been cheated on badly in past relationships so don't want any part of that been done to someone else. At the same time we don't judge its your lives at the end of the day we just feel you should be upfront so potential fab meets / pay partners can make an informed choice as to wether they meet you or not.
To balance it we do really appreciate those who are upfront.
KJ x
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"None of anyone else’s business. As long as they are honest with anyone they may potentially meet I think that’s fine. I object to not being told though when messaging privately. " Sorry wrong button. Couldn't agree more. | |||
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"None of anyone else’s business. As long as they are honest with anyone they may potentially meet I think that’s fine. I object to not being told though when messaging privately. " Absolutely. I also think some people could do more to ensure they know who they are talking to and ask more questions. If everyone involved goes in with their eyes open and know what they getting them selves into...get kn with it..just dont lie about it. | |||
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"If they have options of stating if your a smoker or not etc then it can't be that hard to have an attached or single option." They lie about that too. | |||
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"Ideally they should but it opens them up to a lot of unwarranted abuse for cheating (in PMs). I would just mention on yours that you don't want to meet anyone cheating. " This. Plus putting "can't accommodate, discretion required" isn't necessarily a clue that they're married. Although if it was on mine I'd clarify why. Regardless, people will make up there own mind anyway. | |||
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"Define "cheating". There must be more than one of us on here who are seeking to achieve a little physical intimacy now and then to replace that which cannot be had at home, due to the long-term ill health of one or other partner, in an otherwise loving/caring relationship. Someone who doesn't want a full-blown relationship, because that would be cheating - emotionally as well as physically. Someone who, for the foregoing reasons, if they had "professional" options available to them, would be using them. Is that person "cheating"? Really? Asking for a friend..." Yes. Your friend can try and convince himself all he likes. If I was ill and my partner was fucking around that's a million times worse. He's not there for me when I need him. Nasty. | |||
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"Define "cheating". There must be more than one of us on here who are seeking to achieve a little physical intimacy now and then to replace that which cannot be had at home, due to the long-term ill health of one or other partner, in an otherwise loving/caring relationship. Someone who doesn't want a full-blown relationship, because that would be cheating - emotionally as well as physically. Someone who, for the foregoing reasons, if they had "professional" options available to them, would be using them. Is that person "cheating"? Really? Asking for a friend..." If your partner doesn't know you're having sex with someone else then of course it's cheating,irrespective of the reasons. | |||
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"Yes or certainly say when you first start talking to someone."  | |||
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"People lie. Don't say that you won't meet cheaters, they will just lie. Say you will meet them if they are honest with you about their situation. Then they will be more open and tell you and you don't have to meet them if you don't want to. " Perfect. Give people an informed choice and they'll be much more receptive. Lie; you're gone. No second chances. | |||
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"Maybe agree to disagree. He's always been there for the poorly partner - and always will be. He may be able to create an occasional interlude during a working day, but that would be it. Can you be sure you wouldn't need some small degree of relief after 17 years imposed involuntary celibacy? I doubt it. " Yes...but it's still cheating. Which ever way it's dressed up or whether you feel your reason for cheating is better than Freds up the road it's still cheating. | |||
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"Define "cheating". There must be more than one of us on here who are seeking to achieve a little physical intimacy now and then to replace that which cannot be had at home, due to the long-term ill health of one or other partner, in an otherwise loving/caring relationship. Someone who doesn't want a full-blown relationship, because that would be cheating - emotionally as well as physically. Someone who, for the foregoing reasons, if they had "professional" options available to them, would be using them. Is that person "cheating"? Really? My wife is disabled and I say so in my profile, I don't expect or ask for sympathy but I have had some negative comments about not being able to accomodate from people that haven't read profile and sccuse me of cheating. Asking for a friend..." | |||
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"To be fair, Fred's reason is utter crap. It would be interesting to know how many "single" male profiles on here are really free agents or acting with their partner's knowledge and consent. Cheating, yes. Well, it would be if it ever happened. My thinking on the matter tends to be more utilitarian than deontological." Oi Freds reason is up there with the best of em I tell ya,poor bunnies haven't been the same since that incident... | |||
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"Profile declarations that people want to be aware of: Cheating. Being bisexual. Smoker. 420 friendly. extreme kinks. habitual barebacker. Most recent case of an STI. BMP supporting racist. Profile declarations that are more likely to get you a block or deleted message and / or holier than thou snotogram: Cheating. Being bisexual(male). Smoker. 420 friendly. extreme kinks. habitual barebacker. Most recent case of an STI. BMP supporting racist. We want honesty but then castigate and preach to those who are honest. We don't want applause, praise or medals for being honest about cheating. However the monthly tirade I get from a certain couple who choose to educate me on how despicable I am for cheating gets tiresome. The more things are demonised, the more underground it is pushed. Look at any bareback thread. We all know the risks and most choose to play wearing protection. If we really want people to be honest, stop throwing stones at them. Just make a mental nite, decide they are not for you, block, then go quietly about your business. Unless of course you thrive on virtue posting... " Who's throwing stones? | |||
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" Hi Should those members who are cheating on thier partner state so on there profile? It amazes me how many members who are married are on here without thier spouses consent yet fail to mention it until you specifically question / challenge them in PM's. It's like they put clues such as can't accommodate, discretion required etc and somehow that's enough.
I had one guy admit he married without her knowing so I explained that me and my wife are recently married and don't believe in cheating and won't meet anyone how is. He next response was we can still meet as long as I don't tell my wife he is married. It was like the lies were just second nature / roll off the tongue. I explained I don't lie or hide anything from my wife and she has equal access to our fab account so can see his messages.
Me and my wife have been cheated on badly in past relationships so don't want any part of that been done to someone else. At the same time we don't judge its your lives at the end of the day we just feel you should be upfront so potential fab meets / pay partners can make an informed choice as to wether they meet you or not.
To balance it we do really appreciate those who are upfront.
KJ x
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"Profile declarations that people want to be aware of: Cheating. Being bisexual. Smoker. 420 friendly. extreme kinks. habitual barebacker. Most recent case of an STI. BMP supporting racist. Profile declarations that are more likely to get you a block or deleted message and / or holier than thou snotogram: Cheating. Being bisexual(male). Smoker. 420 friendly. extreme kinks. habitual barebacker. Most recent case of an STI. BMP supporting racist. We want honesty but then castigate and preach to those who are honest. We don't want applause, praise or medals for being honest about cheating. However the monthly tirade I get from a certain couple who choose to educate me on how despicable I am for cheating gets tiresome. The more things are demonised, the more underground it is pushed. Look at any bareback thread. We all know the risks and most choose to play wearing protection. If we really want people to be honest, stop throwing stones at them. Just make a mental nite, decide they are not for you, block, then go quietly about your business. Unless of course you thrive on virtue posting... " So true. We want truth, then rip people for their honesty. It's no wonder people are less than 100% on the money with their profiles. | |||
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Sometimes I think we expect people to have every bit of their life on their profile. I believe thats why as humans we talk to each other i.e to FIND OUT things!
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"Define "cheating". There must be more than one of us on here who are seeking to achieve a little physical intimacy now and then to replace that which cannot be had at home, due to the long-term ill health of one or other partner, in an otherwise loving/caring relationship. Someone who doesn't want a full-blown relationship, because that would be cheating - emotionally as well as physically. Someone who, for the foregoing reasons, if they had "professional" options available to them, would be using them. Is that person "cheating"? Really? Asking for a friend..." I agree.... I am “cheating” I’m asking for that friend I desire a certain physical attraction that of which I’m not getting in my own loving relationship. I don’t wish to cause pain, just an understanding of what I’d desire. I feel selfish being not entirely happy with what I have, In fact I’m very happy, but some thing is missing. I would desire that but not as to replace what I already have, a loving relationship. I guess I’m having my cake and eating it But isn’t this the same for a married couple on here? | |||
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" Who's throwing stones?" Not neccesarily today or on this thread, but you know it happens. | |||
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"Profile declarations that people want to be aware of: Cheating. Being bisexual. Smoker. 420 friendly. extreme kinks. habitual barebacker. Most recent case of an STI. BMP supporting racist. Profile declarations that are more likely to get you a block or deleted message and / or holier than thou snotogram: Cheating. Being bisexual(male). Smoker. 420 friendly. extreme kinks. habitual barebacker. Most recent case of an STI. BMP supporting racist. We want honesty but then castigate and preach to those who are honest. We don't want applause, praise or medals for being honest about cheating. However the monthly tirade I get from a certain couple who choose to educate me on how despicable I am for cheating gets tiresome. The more things are demonised, the more underground it is pushed. Look at any bareback thread. We all know the risks and most choose to play wearing protection. If we really want people to be honest, stop throwing stones at them. Just make a mental nite, decide they are not for you, block, then go quietly about your business. Unless of course you thrive on virtue posting... So true. We want truth, then rip people for their honesty. It's no wonder people are less than 100% on the money with their profiles." If my profile isn't 100% me I'll eat my pizza  | |||
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"Ideally they should but it opens them up to a lot of unwarranted abuse for cheating (in PMs). I would just mention on yours that you don't want to meet anyone cheating. " I have this on my profile. Its regularly ignored. | |||
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" Who's throwing stones? Not neccesarily today or on this thread, but you know it happens." Because it's an incredibly emotive subject and lots have been through the absolute devastation of having a spouse cheating on them and then the breakdown of the whole family. It's shit absolute shit especially on the children. Then the get the odd person trying to justify their reason is better than the next guy's/woman's. Maybe that's why...personally I don't give a stuff what anyone does so long as the cheats stay away from me | |||
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"Define "cheating". There must be more than one of us on here who are seeking to achieve a little physical intimacy now and then to replace that which cannot be had at home, due to the long-term ill health of one or other partner, in an otherwise loving/caring relationship. Someone who doesn't want a full-blown relationship, because that would be cheating - emotionally as well as physically. Someone who, for the foregoing reasons, if they had "professional" options available to them, would be using them. Is that person "cheating"? Really? Asking for a friend... I agree.... I am “cheating” I’m asking for that friend I desire a certain physical attraction that of which I’m not getting in my own loving relationship. I don’t wish to cause pain, just an understanding of what I’d desire. I feel selfish being not entirely happy with what I have, In fact I’m very happy, but some thing is missing. I would desire that but not as to replace what I already have, a loving relationship. I guess I’m having my cake and eating it But isn’t this the same for a married couple on here? "Brave face pic's! | |||
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"Define "cheating". There must be more than one of us on here who are seeking to achieve a little physical intimacy now and then to replace that which cannot be had at home, due to the long-term ill health of one or other partner, in an otherwise loving/caring relationship. Someone who doesn't want a full-blown relationship, because that would be cheating - emotionally as well as physically. Someone who, for the foregoing reasons, if they had "professional" options available to them, would be using them. Is that person "cheating"? Really? Asking for a friend... I agree.... I am “cheating” I’m asking for that friend I desire a certain physical attraction that of which I’m not getting in my own loving relationship. I don’t wish to cause pain, just an understanding of what I’d desire. I feel selfish being not entirely happy with what I have, In fact I’m very happy, but some thing is missing. I would desire that but not as to replace what I already have, a loving relationship. I guess I’m having my cake and eating it But isn’t this the same for a married couple on here? "Quite a lot of people who are here without their partners knowledge say this. In my opinion if you eat cake with your partners knowledge its quite different to eating cake without their knowledge. I think we should all get on with this fab business without worrying what other people are doing | |||
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"Profile declarations that people want to be aware of: Cheating. Being bisexual. Smoker. 420 friendly. extreme kinks. habitual barebacker. Most recent case of an STI. BMP supporting racist. Profile declarations that are more likely to get you a block or deleted message and / or holier than thou snotogram: Cheating. Being bisexual(male). Smoker. 420 friendly. extreme kinks. habitual barebacker. Most recent case of an STI. BMP supporting racist. We want honesty but then castigate and preach to those who are honest. We don't want applause, praise or medals for being honest about cheating. However the monthly tirade I get from a certain couple who choose to educate me on how despicable I am for cheating gets tiresome. The more things are demonised, the more underground it is pushed. Look at any bareback thread. We all know the risks and most choose to play wearing protection. If we really want people to be honest, stop throwing stones at them. Just make a mental nite, decide they are not for you, block, then go quietly about your business. Unless of course you thrive on virtue posting... " Why don't you just block the couple if they keep whining at you? | |||
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" Hi Should those members who are cheating on thier partner state so on there profile? It amazes me how many members who are married are on here without thier spouses consent yet fail to mention it until you specifically question / challenge them in PM's. It's like they put clues such as can't accommodate, discretion required etc and somehow that's enough.
I had one guy admit he married without her knowing so I explained that me and my wife are recently married and don't believe in cheating and won't meet anyone how is. He next response was we can still meet as long as I don't tell my wife he is married. It was like the lies were just second nature / roll off the tongue. I explained I don't lie or hide anything from my wife and she has equal access to our fab account so can see his messages.
Me and my wife have been cheated on badly in past relationships so don't want any part of that been done to someone else. At the same time we don't judge its your lives at the end of the day we just feel you should be upfront so potential fab meets / pay partners can make an informed choice as to wether they meet you or not.
To balance it we do really appreciate those who are upfront.
KJ x
"It’s not just this site, many other sites have people who are cheating on their partners without their knowledge. I can’t vouch for men as I don’t look but a lot of women have the same can’t accom or need to be discrete. | |||
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" Why don't you just block the couple if they keep whining at you? " A message is a message... If they are having a go at me, they aren't having a go at someone else. I also enjoy reminding them that they have messaged before and are only looking for couples so.why even look? | |||
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"I think most of us cheat one way or another ...not telling your children or friends that you are Swingers is sort of cheating. Anyway, I prefer to play with attached people. In my experience they are more reliable, punctual and 'normal' and less threatening. ...just my opinion..." Nonsense that's not cheating | |||
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" Why don't you just block the couple if they keep whining at you? A message is a message... If they are having a go at me, they aren't having a go at someone else. I also enjoy reminding them that they have messaged before and are only looking for couples so.why even look?" You're very polite. | |||
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"*** news flash*** folk of all genders in all facets of life aren't always truthful. Whats the quote.. "Don't believe everything you read on the internet!!" ©Abraham Lincoln 1888." You got the date wrong. It was 1887. | |||
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"People will have different definitions of cheating. For example if someone is told that they can see other people by their partner, but that they don't want to know about it. Do they have permission or not? Is it still technically cheating if they do have permission?" Of course it’s not! | |||
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"I think most of us cheat one way or another ...not telling your children or friends that you are Swingers is sort of cheating. Anyway, I prefer to play with attached people. In my experience they are more reliable, punctual and 'normal' and less threatening. ...just my opinion..." Absolute nonsense. I am cheating because I don’t tell my 12 year old child I like to fuck about a bit??
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"I think most of us cheat one way or another ...not telling your children or friends that you are Swingers is sort of cheating. Anyway, I prefer to play with attached people. In my experience they are more reliable, punctual and 'normal' and less threatening. ...just my opinion..." "I think most of us cheat one way or another ...not telling your children or friends that you are Swingers is sort of cheating." how on earth could that be construed as cheating? That, my friend is called discretion. | |||
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"Pretty much all of the guys I have met don't really give a fuck if im married or not. We meet up for sex and when done we part ways. It's a rare find on here, a woman who has the same approach to sex as a man. They could be out there but so far I have not chatted to many." It's rare because the majority of men who meet on here leave when they have cum and don't give a shit if the woman has. Using women as free whores basically. Which isn't what swinging is about! Women want to get what they are after which is their pleasure too. That's what the difference is on here. Men think it's game over when they've cum. So women have to have a different approach because we take longer to orgasm as a rule. It's either find a guy who is willing to make the effort or to have several queued up just to make sure they get what they want. Cheaters are notoriously clock watching and when they cum they are gone. I've tried the queued approach doesn't work and it's no fun when you cool off between guys and it's like starting all over again. Or worst they don't turn up. Not exactly ideal just because a guy can't be bothered to make the effort to make it mutually pleasurable. Guys need to up their game on here or find women who don't give a shit if they have a pleasurable time or not.... Usually you pay for that because it's work afterall! You may as well find couples who want you fuck their hotwife and the hubby finishes her off but even then that's rare because they prefer you pleasure her and fulfill her needs and then you go. Fab is full of guys who just want to empty a load which ever way possible. You're left with the cum dumps on here which aren't exactly to everyone tastes, or lying to women and running when you had your fun and cheating them out of their pleasure and leaving them feeling cheap, used and sexually frustrated. You'll get better experiences on here if you're willing to make more of an effort in the sack. Congratulations to any guy who can find a woman who is fully satisfied after 20 mins. It will be like winning the lottery. | |||
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"Pretty much all of the guys I have met don't really give a fuck if im married or not. We meet up for sex and when done we part ways. It's a rare find on here, a woman who has the same approach to sex as a man. They could be out there but so far I have not chatted to many. It's rare because the majority of men who meet on here leave when they have cum and don't give a shit if the woman has. Using women as free whores basically. Which isn't what swinging is about! Women want to get what they are after which is their pleasure too. That's what the difference is on here. Men think it's game over when they've cum. So women have to have a different approach because we take longer to orgasm as a rule. It's either find a guy who is willing to make the effort or to have several queued up just to make sure they get what they want. Cheaters are notoriously clock watching and when they cum they are gone. I've tried the queued approach doesn't work and it's no fun when you cool off between guys and it's like starting all over again. Or worst they don't turn up. Not exactly ideal just because a guy can't be bothered to make the effort to make it mutually pleasurable. Guys need to up their game on here or find women who don't give a shit if they have a pleasurable time or not.... Usually you pay for that because it's work afterall! You may as well find couples who want you fuck their hotwife and the hubby finishes her off but even then that's rare because they prefer you pleasure her and fulfill her needs and then you go. Fab is full of guys who just want to empty a load which ever way possible. You're left with the cum dumps on here which aren't exactly to everyone tastes, or lying to women and running when you had your fun and cheating them out of their pleasure and leaving them feeling cheap, used and sexually frustrated. You'll get better experiences on here if you're willing to make more of an effort in the sack. Congratulations to any guy who can find a woman who is fully satisfied after 20 mins. It will be like winning the lottery." I understand your experience with some guys just wanting to use you is not what you and most other women want from a meet. There are guys who treat other guys the same probably because they are dicks. For me its a communication thing. I know if i am meeting a guy we have a quick chat about exactly what each other wants out of the meet and, for me, it usually goes down like that. If i were to meet a woman I would want to ensure she gets what she wants out of a meet too as it would then mean that i would be more likely to be invited back, or at least get a good veri. And for me it's a bit of an ego thing that if I can make a woman cum then it means that I still have the magic, lol. | |||
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"People should put whatever they want on their profiles... If you start dictating one thing, where does it stop? " | |||
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"Pretty much all of the guys I have met don't really give a fuck if im married or not. We meet up for sex and when done we part ways. It's a rare find on here, a woman who has the same approach to sex as a man. They could be out there but so far I have not chatted to many. It's rare because the majority of men who meet on here leave when they have cum and don't give a shit if the woman has. Using women as free whores basically. Which isn't what swinging is about! Women want to get what they are after which is their pleasure too. That's what the difference is on here. Men think it's game over when they've cum. So women have to have a different approach because we take longer to orgasm as a rule. It's either find a guy who is willing to make the effort or to have several queued up just to make sure they get what they want. Cheaters are notoriously clock watching and when they cum they are gone. I've tried the queued approach doesn't work and it's no fun when you cool off between guys and it's like starting all over again. Or worst they don't turn up. Not exactly ideal just because a guy can't be bothered to make the effort to make it mutually pleasurable. Guys need to up their game on here or find women who don't give a shit if they have a pleasurable time or not.... Usually you pay for that because it's work afterall! You may as well find couples who want you fuck their hotwife and the hubby finishes her off but even then that's rare because they prefer you pleasure her and fulfill her needs and then you go. Fab is full of guys who just want to empty a load which ever way possible. You're left with the cum dumps on here which aren't exactly to everyone tastes, or lying to women and running when you had your fun and cheating them out of their pleasure and leaving them feeling cheap, used and sexually frustrated. You'll get better experiences on here if you're willing to make more of an effort in the sack. Congratulations to any guy who can find a woman who is fully satisfied after 20 mins. It will be like winning the lottery. I understand your experience with some guys just wanting to use you is not what you and most other women want from a meet. There are guys who treat other guys the same probably because they are dicks. For me its a communication thing. I know if i am meeting a guy we have a quick chat about exactly what each other wants out of the meet and, for me, it usually goes down like that. If i were to meet a woman I would want to ensure she gets what she wants out of a meet too as it would then mean that i would be more likely to be invited back, or at least get a good veri. And for me it's a bit of an ego thing that if I can make a woman cum then it means that I still have the magic, lol." It's definitely a communication thing. But so many lie through their teeth. I know it's not specific to gender too. I know many tv/ts/cd also who make so much effort for the guy to run when they've cum no consideration to their needs and effort they've made for them. It's sad to think men use fab to treat people this way. (The odd women too although very rare) I'm completely honest on my profile what I'm looking for and I say it bluntly what I'm after. But so many will say anything to get what they want. They don't know how to be honest I think. Or they don't give a shit. I used to do one offs / hook ups but sadly every single one of them was as I mentioned. For me now if it isn't about being FBs or sexual companionship I won't bother. But a lot still end up one offs. Wasn't by my choice. Whether it's 2 guys 2 women etc it's about mutual pleasures and what people want from it. So many are selfish though | |||
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" Why don't you just block the couple if they keep whining at you? A message is a message... If they are having a go at me, they aren't having a go at someone else. I also enjoy reminding them that they have messaged before and are only looking for couples so.why even look? You're very polite."Always! | |||
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"Pretty much all of the guys I have met don't really give a fuck if im married or not. We meet up for sex and when done we part ways. It's a rare find on here, a woman who has the same approach to sex as a man. They could be out there but so far I have not chatted to many. It's rare because the majority of men who meet on here leave when they have cum and don't give a shit if the woman has. Using women as free whores basically. Which isn't what swinging is about! Women want to get what they are after which is their pleasure too. That's what the difference is on here. Men think it's game over when they've cum. So women have to have a different approach because we take longer to orgasm as a rule. It's either find a guy who is willing to make the effort or to have several queued up just to make sure they get what they want. Cheaters are notoriously clock watching and when they cum they are gone. I've tried the queued approach doesn't work and it's no fun when you cool off between guys and it's like starting all over again. Or worst they don't turn up. Not exactly ideal just because a guy can't be bothered to make the effort to make it mutually pleasurable. Guys need to up their game on here or find women who don't give a shit if they have a pleasurable time or not.... Usually you pay for that because it's work afterall! You may as well find couples who want you fuck their hotwife and the hubby finishes her off but even then that's rare because they prefer you pleasure her and fulfill her needs and then you go. Fab is full of guys who just want to empty a load which ever way possible. You're left with the cum dumps on here which aren't exactly to everyone tastes, or lying to women and running when you had your fun and cheating them out of their pleasure and leaving them feeling cheap, used and sexually frustrated. You'll get better experiences on here if you're willing to make more of an effort in the sack. Congratulations to any guy who can find a woman who is fully satisfied after 20 mins. It will be like winning the lottery. I understand your experience with some guys just wanting to use you is not what you and most other women want from a meet. There are guys who treat other guys the same probably because they are dicks. For me its a communication thing. I know if i am meeting a guy we have a quick chat about exactly what each other wants out of the meet and, for me, it usually goes down like that. If i were to meet a woman I would want to ensure she gets what she wants out of a meet too as it would then mean that i would be more likely to be invited back, or at least get a good veri. And for me it's a bit of an ego thing that if I can make a woman cum then it means that I still have the magic, lol. It's definitely a communication thing. But so many lie through their teeth. I know it's not specific to gender too. I know many tv/ts/cd also who make so much effort for the guy to run when they've cum no consideration to their needs and effort they've made for them. It's sad to think men use fab to treat people this way. (The odd women too although very rare) I'm completely honest on my profile what I'm looking for and I say it bluntly what I'm after. But so many will say anything to get what they want. They don't know how to be honest I think. Or they don't give a shit. I used to do one offs / hook ups but sadly every single one of them was as I mentioned. For me now if it isn't about being FBs or sexual companionship I won't bother. But a lot still end up one offs. Wasn't by my choice. Whether it's 2 guys 2 women etc it's about mutual pleasures and what people want from it. So many are selfish though"
That's the way it goes unfortuantly. I'm honest up front. Now it means I probably won't get many meets with women, even when I send a pic of my beautiful face lol, but that the way it is which I get.
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"Pretty much all of the guys I have met don't really give a fuck if im married or not. We meet up for sex and when done we part ways. It's a rare find on here, a woman who has the same approach to sex as a man. They could be out there but so far I have not chatted to many. It's rare because the majority of men who meet on here leave when they have cum and don't give a shit if the woman has. Using women as free whores basically. Which isn't what swinging is about! Women want to get what they are after which is their pleasure too. That's what the difference is on here. Men think it's game over when they've cum. So women have to have a different approach because we take longer to orgasm as a rule. It's either find a guy who is willing to make the effort or to have several queued up just to make sure they get what they want. Cheaters are notoriously clock watching and when they cum they are gone. I've tried the queued approach doesn't work and it's no fun when you cool off between guys and it's like starting all over again. Or worst they don't turn up. Not exactly ideal just because a guy can't be bothered to make the effort to make it mutually pleasurable. Guys need to up their game on here or find women who don't give a shit if they have a pleasurable time or not.... Usually you pay for that because it's work afterall! You may as well find couples who want you fuck their hotwife and the hubby finishes her off but even then that's rare because they prefer you pleasure her and fulfill her needs and then you go. Fab is full of guys who just want to empty a load which ever way possible. You're left with the cum dumps on here which aren't exactly to everyone tastes, or lying to women and running when you had your fun and cheating them out of their pleasure and leaving them feeling cheap, used and sexually frustrated. You'll get better experiences on here if you're willing to make more of an effort in the sack. Congratulations to any guy who can find a woman who is fully satisfied after 20 mins. It will be like winning the lottery. I understand your experience with some guys just wanting to use you is not what you and most other women want from a meet. There are guys who treat other guys the same probably because they are dicks. For me its a communication thing. I know if i am meeting a guy we have a quick chat about exactly what each other wants out of the meet and, for me, it usually goes down like that. If i were to meet a woman I would want to ensure she gets what she wants out of a meet too as it would then mean that i would be more likely to be invited back, or at least get a good veri. And for me it's a bit of an ego thing that if I can make a woman cum then it means that I still have the magic, lol. It's definitely a communication thing. But so many lie through their teeth. I know it's not specific to gender too. I know many tv/ts/cd also who make so much effort for the guy to run when they've cum no consideration to their needs and effort they've made for them. It's sad to think men use fab to treat people this way. (The odd women too although very rare) I'm completely honest on my profile what I'm looking for and I say it bluntly what I'm after. But so many will say anything to get what they want. They don't know how to be honest I think. Or they don't give a shit. I used to do one offs / hook ups but sadly every single one of them was as I mentioned. For me now if it isn't about being FBs or sexual companionship I won't bother. But a lot still end up one offs. Wasn't by my choice. Whether it's 2 guys 2 women etc it's about mutual pleasures and what people want from it. So many are selfish though
That's the way it goes unfortuantly. I'm honest up front. Now it means I probably won't get many meets with women, even when I send a pic of my beautiful face lol, but that the way it is which I get.
I think alot of guys on here just see it as a sex site and will only take from it what they want without thinking about what the other person wants, or kick off when no one wants to meet them."This is a swingers site for consenting couples what ever make up that is single men and women TV etc are just playthings to satisfy their needs this is not a dating site nor is it is a sex site it’s purely for couples swapping and using singles as an accessory to their wants lusts needs single for single doesn’t work here | |||
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" Hi Should those members who are cheating on thier partner state so on there profile? It amazes me how many members who are married are on here without thier spouses consent yet fail to mention it until you specifically question / challenge them in PM's. It's like they put clues such as can't accommodate, discretion required etc and somehow that's enough.
I had one guy admit he married without her knowing so I explained that me and my wife are recently married and don't believe in cheating and won't meet anyone how is. He next response was we can still meet as long as I don't tell my wife he is married. It was like the lies were just second nature / roll off the tongue. I explained I don't lie or hide anything from my wife and she has equal access to our fab account so can see his messages.
Me and my wife have been cheated on badly in past relationships so don't want any part of that been done to someone else. At the same time we don't judge its your lives at the end of the day we just feel you should be upfront so potential fab meets / pay partners can make an informed choice as to wether they meet you or not.
To balance it we do really appreciate those who are upfront.
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"I think most of us cheat one way or another ...not telling your children or friends that you are Swingers is sort of cheating. Anyway, I prefer to play with attached people. In my experience they are more reliable, punctual and 'normal' and less threatening. ...just my opinion... Absolute nonsense. I am cheating because I don’t tell my 12 year old child I like to fuck about a bit??
Good grief.
V x "That's the biggest load of shit I've ever read seriously
So according to your logic me and my wife decide to become swingers after we got married with 100% transparency, mutual respect and agreement but because we have not told say my parents we are swingers or even we haven't told my friends at work we are swingers we are cheaters??? That's what yours saying above.
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"Pretty much all of the guys I have met don't really give a fuck if im married or not. We meet up for sex and when done we part ways. It's a rare find on here, a woman who has the same approach to sex as a man. They could be out there but so far I have not chatted to many. It's rare because the majority of men who meet on here leave when they have cum and don't give a shit if the woman has. Using women as free whores basically. Which isn't what swinging is about! Women want to get what they are after which is their pleasure too. That's what the difference is on here. Men think it's game over when they've cum. So women have to have a different approach because we take longer to orgasm as a rule. It's either find a guy who is willing to make the effort or to have several queued up just to make sure they get what they want. Cheaters are notoriously clock watching and when they cum they are gone. I've tried the queued approach doesn't work and it's no fun when you cool off between guys and it's like starting all over again. Or worst they don't turn up. Not exactly ideal just because a guy can't be bothered to make the effort to make it mutually pleasurable. Guys need to up their game on here or find women who don't give a shit if they have a pleasurable time or not.... Usually you pay for that because it's work afterall! You may as well find couples who want you fuck their hotwife and the hubby finishes her off but even then that's rare because they prefer you pleasure her and fulfill her needs and then you go. Fab is full of guys who just want to empty a load which ever way possible. You're left with the cum dumps on here which aren't exactly to everyone tastes, or lying to women and running when you had your fun and cheating them out of their pleasure and leaving them feeling cheap, used and sexually frustrated. You'll get better experiences on here if you're willing to make more of an effort in the sack. Congratulations to any guy who can find a woman who is fully satisfied after 20 mins. It will be like winning the lottery. I understand your experience with some guys just wanting to use you is not what you and most other women want from a meet. There are guys who treat other guys the same probably because they are dicks. For me its a communication thing. I know if i am meeting a guy we have a quick chat about exactly what each other wants out of the meet and, for me, it usually goes down like that. If i were to meet a woman I would want to ensure she gets what she wants out of a meet too as it would then mean that i would be more likely to be invited back, or at least get a good veri. And for me it's a bit of an ego thing that if I can make a woman cum then it means that I still have the magic, lol. It's definitely a communication thing. But so many lie through their teeth. I know it's not specific to gender too. I know many tv/ts/cd also who make so much effort for the guy to run when they've cum no consideration to their needs and effort they've made for them. It's sad to think men use fab to treat people this way. (The odd women too although very rare) I'm completely honest on my profile what I'm looking for and I say it bluntly what I'm after. But so many will say anything to get what they want. They don't know how to be honest I think. Or they don't give a shit. I used to do one offs / hook ups but sadly every single one of them was as I mentioned. For me now if it isn't about being FBs or sexual companionship I won't bother. But a lot still end up one offs. Wasn't by my choice. Whether it's 2 guys 2 women etc it's about mutual pleasures and what people want from it. So many are selfish though
That's the way it goes unfortuantly. I'm honest up front. Now it means I probably won't get many meets with women, even when I send a pic of my beautiful face lol, but that the way it is which I get.
I think alot of guys on here just see it as a sex site and will only take from it what they want without thinking about what the other person wants, or kick off when no one wants to meet them.
This is a swingers site for consenting couples what ever make up that is single men and women TV etc are just playthings to satisfy their needs this is not a dating site nor is it is a sex site it’s purely for couples swapping and using singles as an accessory to their wants lusts needs single for single doesn’t work here "Swinging has evolved it is no longer what it was where seedy men practically raffle off their wives for a night in order to fuck someone else's wife and the wives never get a say in the matter. It's a community of like minded people who enjoy sex. Whether it's soft swing or full swing to being just an exhibitionist or a voyeur what ever floats their boat. The key to it all is consent and without being honest and upfront it's not full consent. There are people out there seeking same as you just have to find them. Can't moan about being blocked because you don't fit a criteria of theirs. Better to know what everyone wants to find the right people. There's people who wanna meet cheaters and there's people who don't. Respect that just the same as people don't want meet smokers or only people who smoke. I used to be forever pointing out to people who would message me to meet that have won't meet smokers on their profile when mine states I smoke. Also funny to discover they smoke too and they lied on their profile they smoke. Not being honest about who you are and what you want means a person cannot make an informed choice. Without it it isn't informed consent. I don't understand why people can't behave like adults and tell the truth. Immature people lie because they are afraid to accept the consequences. Just as most cheaters are afraid to tell their loved one they enjoy sex with others. They can't sit and discuss it like an adult so they lie and cheat. Have to ask your self do you truly love a person when you can't be open and honest with them? Wouldn't it be better to be with someone you could than being miserable and making them miserable? Can't use excuses like children and money just to stay in a relationship where there's no true love. Being in a relationship for convenience is good for no one. A sexless marriage with true love can work with honesty. If your partner doesn't want sex but doesn't want you getting any then I dare say they don't love you because they don't consider your needs. Biggest marriage breakups to do with affairs isn't the actual sex but the lies. Many marriages improve even after an affair when you own up and actually discuss both your needs. Being an adult about it. Consider how many lies you have to tell to cover one truth. Is it really worth it? | |||
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"I think most of us cheat one way or another ...not telling your children or friends that you are Swingers is sort of cheating. Anyway, I prefer to play with attached people. In my experience they are more reliable, punctual and 'normal' and less threatening. ...just my opinion... Absolute nonsense. I am cheating because I don’t tell my 12 year old child I like to fuck about a bit??
Good grief.
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That's the biggest load of shit I've ever read seriously
So according to your logic me and my wife decide to become swingers after we got married with 100% transparency, mutual respect and agreement but because we have not told say my parents we are swingers or even we haven't told my friends at work we are swingers we are cheaters??? That's what yours saying above.
KJ x"I think when you quoted my response you weren’t telling me it was a load of bollocks ... more to the person that said if you don’t tell family and friends the. you’re cheating. I hope so anyway 
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"I have on my profile not interested in attached/married men, yet I get messaged daily because they think staying in a hotel suddenly makes them single, but then they have also ignored the rest of my profile about what 'I' am looking for! Men like that just don't give a shit to be honest "Totally agree. | |||
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"I have on my profile not interested in attached/married men, yet I get messaged daily because they think staying in a hotel suddenly makes them single, but then they have also ignored the rest of my profile about what 'I' am looking for! Men like that just don't give a shit to be honest
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"Define "cheating". There must be more than one of us on here who are seeking to achieve a little physical intimacy now and then to replace that which cannot be had at home, due to the long-term ill health of one or other partner, in an otherwise loving/caring relationship. Someone who doesn't want a full-blown relationship, because that would be cheating - emotionally as well as physically. Someone who, for the foregoing reasons, if they had "professional" options available to them, would be using them. Is that person "cheating"? Really? Asking for a friend..." yes | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? " Are you meaning that dishonesty should be accepted? Is swinging and extra marital sex the same in your opinion? ? | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? Are you meaning that dishonesty should be accepted? Is swinging and extra marital sex the same in your opinion? ? What’s dishonesty got to do with it? " Cheating on your partner is dishonest. It's not swinging. Swinging is consent. That's the difference. | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? Are you meaning that dishonesty should be accepted? Is swinging and extra marital sex the same in your opinion? ? What’s dishonesty got to do with it? " Surely you are not that naive? Cheating on your partner involves dishonesty. Or do you see it differently? ? | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? Are you meaning that dishonesty should be accepted? Is swinging and extra marital sex the same in your opinion? ? What’s dishonesty got to do with it? Cheating on your partner is dishonest. It's not swinging. Swinging is consent. That's the difference. " Thank you. | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? Are you meaning that dishonesty should be accepted? Is swinging and extra marital sex the same in your opinion? ? What’s dishonesty got to do with it? Surely you are not that naive? Cheating on your partner involves dishonesty. Or do you see it differently? ?" Who’s being naive? It’s been going on forever - reading the number of cheating posts on here you’d be forgiven for thinking it’s something new. | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? Are you meaning that dishonesty should be accepted? Is swinging and extra marital sex the same in your opinion? ? What’s dishonesty got to do with it? " We are very interested to hear what you have to say!! | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? Are you meaning that dishonesty should be accepted? Is swinging and extra marital sex the same in your opinion? ? What’s dishonesty got to do with it? Surely you are not that naive? Cheating on your partner involves dishonesty. Or do you see it differently? ? Who’s being naive? It’s been going on forever - reading the number of cheating posts on here you’d be forgiven for thinking it’s something new. " So again we ask. Cheating doesn't involve dishonesty? ? | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? " Your being dishonest, what’s being “French” or grown up have to do with it? Oh ok let’s teach our kids to be grown up and dishonest!!! | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? Your being dishonest, what’s being “French” or grown up have to do with it? Oh ok let’s teach our kids to be grown up and dishonest!!!" How am I being dishonest? | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? Are you meaning that dishonesty should be accepted? Is swinging and extra marital sex the same in your opinion? ? What’s dishonesty got to do with it? Surely you are not that naive? Cheating on your partner involves dishonesty. Or do you see it differently? ? Who’s being naive? It’s been going on forever - reading the number of cheating posts on here you’d be forgiven for thinking it’s something new. " Your next thoughts?? Is cheating dishonest or not?? | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? Are you meaning that dishonesty should be accepted? Is swinging and extra marital sex the same in your opinion? ? What’s dishonesty got to do with it? Surely you are not that naive? Cheating on your partner involves dishonesty. Or do you see it differently? ? Who’s being naive? It’s been going on forever - reading the number of cheating posts on here you’d be forgiven for thinking it’s something new. Your next thoughts?? Is cheating dishonest or not??" Yes | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? Your being dishonest, what’s being “French” or grown up have to do with it? Oh ok let’s teach our kids to be grown up and dishonest!!! How am I being dishonest? " Ok by being in a relationship does your wife or partner know your on here? Does she know you have sex outside your relationship!? If you answer no then I’m afraid your being dishonest! | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? Your being dishonest, what’s being “French” or grown up have to do with it? Oh ok let’s teach our kids to be grown up and dishonest!!! How am I being dishonest? Ok by being in a relationship does your wife or partner know your on here? Does she know you have sex outside your relationship!? If you answer no then I’m afraid your being dishonest!" why have you assumed I’m married or in a relationship? | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? " Is that the term used where a society are more open in their marriages? Open marriages have been a thing for centuries just so happens to be the UK are sadly taught sex is wrong sex is sinful and only have sex with the one your married to. It's seen as wrong that you want to have sex with someone other than your spouse. We are slowly becoming more open to talking about sex and actually ignoring the social teachings were pressured into believing. Other countries have been much more open minded about it for a very long time. As a nation were catching up. But what you miss on that point is they are open about the extra martial sex they don't lie to their partners about it. | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? Is that the term used where a society are more open in their marriages? Open marriages have been a thing for centuries just so happens to be the UK are sadly taught sex is wrong sex is sinful and only have sex with the one your married to. It's seen as wrong that you want to have sex with someone other than your spouse. We are slowly becoming more open to talking about sex and actually ignoring the social teachings were pressured into believing. Other countries have been much more open minded about it for a very long time. As a nation were catching up. But what you miss on that point is they are open about the extra martial sex they don't lie to their partners about it. " So true. An open marriage is a choice made by BOTH partners. Cheating isn't. ..... | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? Your being dishonest, what’s being “French” or grown up have to do with it? Oh ok let’s teach our kids to be grown up and dishonest!!! How am I being dishonest? Ok by being in a relationship does your wife or partner know your on here? Does she know you have sex outside your relationship!? If you answer no then I’m afraid your being dishonest! why have you assumed I’m married or in a relationship?" I’m sorry maybe your not. But if you or anybody was I’ll say the same. Regardless, dress it up as much as you want it’s dishonest! | |||
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"Swinging is NOT cheating, omg so many singles think they can justify being unfaithful by claiming they are swingers when they haven’t got a bloody clue about swinging, pisses us off to be honest " You are stating the obvious. Why do some swinging couples like to assume the moral high ground? Why get pissed off? Just stick to other couples. | |||
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"Look, we all know it’s wrong. In a perfect world and all that. But there’s lots of things wrong in this world. Lots of things that piss me off but I don’t feel the need to constantly post about it or condemn. I guess that ‘ cheaters ‘ are an easy target. Live and let live. " Chill, it’s a post asking for opinions | |||
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"Swinging is NOT cheating, omg so many singles think they can justify being unfaithful by claiming they are swingers when they haven’t got a bloody clue about swinging, pisses us off to be honest You are stating the obvious. Why do some swinging couples like to assume the moral high ground? Why get pissed off? Just stick to other couples. " So why support cheating then?? Honesty is not high moral ground, just basic morals. Don't you agree? | |||
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"Swinging is NOT cheating, omg so many singles think they can justify being unfaithful by claiming they are swingers when they haven’t got a bloody clue about swinging, pisses us off to be honest You are stating the obvious. Why do some swinging couples like to assume the moral high ground? Why get pissed off? Just stick to other couples. " And single people who are swingers !! I’m single I’m genuine | |||
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"Swinging is NOT cheating, omg so many singles think they can justify being unfaithful by claiming they are swingers when they haven’t got a bloody clue about swinging, pisses us off to be honest You are stating the obvious. Why do some swinging couples like to assume the moral high ground? Why get pissed off? Just stick to other couples. Good point. And single people who are swingers !! I’m single I’m genuine " | |||
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"Swinging is NOT cheating, omg so many singles think they can justify being unfaithful by claiming they are swingers when they haven’t got a bloody clue about swinging, pisses us off to be honest You are stating the obvious. Why do some swinging couples like to assume the moral high ground? Why get pissed off? Just stick to other couples. So why support cheating then?? Honesty is not high moral ground, just basic morals. Don't you agree?" Am I supporting it? Like I said, the impression you get from Fab is that it’s some shocking new phenomenon. | |||
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"I have a partner who doesnt know i am on this site. I state it in my profile and that im not after meeting just online fun. Do i think its cheating - yes Im not proud of it but i have my reasons for being here which im not going into. Just thought i would give my honest opinion. Not here to be judged" Online is just about the same as watching porn with a bit of interaction like those cam bunny sites. But if you're wanking on here maybe your denying your partner fun too. Swings and roundabouts. If you ask your partner if they want sex they don't, then no issue really you have needs wank away to your hearts content. I've cheated before. My partner I spent 8 years with would deny me sex as punishment. I was afraid to leave him and if I told him I had sex with someone else he'd have beaten the shit out of me and punished me in other ways. But I had my needs and I needed someone to show me some attention so I understand completely how some people feel the need to cheat. He didn't deserve me in the slightest and I didn't respect him enough to tell him the truth also the fact I'd have been in some serious shit. Love soured long before that, I left him in the end after a series of events. I can understand in sexless relationships it's a human desire to have sex and be intimate. But it's how people go about it. How people treat others. It hurts being lied to more so when it's the person you love. Trust is a mirror and you can't unbreak a mirror. Relationships where you love each other honesty is so important. | |||
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"Define "cheating". There must be more than one of us on here who are seeking to achieve a little physical intimacy now and then to replace that which cannot be had at home, due to the long-term ill health of one or other partner, in an otherwise loving/caring relationship. Someone who doesn't want a full-blown relationship, because that would be cheating - emotionally as well as physically. Someone who, for the foregoing reasons, if they had "professional" options available to them, would be using them. Is that person "cheating"? Really? Asking for a friend..." Yes, that is cheating, no matter how much your 'friend' tries to justify it. 'Professional options' is cheating too, just in case your 'friend' is confused  | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? There is no single community mind. There are many individuals who each run their fab lives as they choose. V x " So you don't go to clubs or socials and make friends with other swingers? Or get involved in swinging discussions ? You're not part of the community? Swinging is the act of exchanging and engaging in other sexual partners. As I pointed out before it isn't as it used to be. One week you're fucking Joe the next you're fucking mark but Cheryl you know is fucking Joe this week next week you could be doing Joe and Mark. And Cheryl watching as she's fucking Steve. This is swinging now liberated sexual freedom to enjoy sex with others. It's a community because we can engage friendly and in a mature manner about it. Sat in a club laughing having a drink with other adults that you may so happen to have sex with. Like going to the local pub but there's sex. Can't say the local pub drinks don't have their community. This is a community for singles and couples of every kind. If someone has a problem they share it people help. If someone wants to celebrate they share it and people are happy for them. If this isn't a community I don't know what is. | |||
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"Define "cheating". There must be more than one of us on here who are seeking to achieve a little physical intimacy now and then to replace that which cannot be had at home, due to the long-term ill health of one or other partner, in an otherwise loving/caring relationship. Someone who doesn't want a full-blown relationship, because that would be cheating - emotionally as well as physically. Someone who, for the foregoing reasons, if they had "professional" options available to them, would be using them. Is that person "cheating"? Really? Asking for a friend... If your partner doesn't know you're having sex with someone else then of course it's cheating,irrespective of the reasons." Sally and I had a conversation about this a while ago. When we were younger and a little more adventurous we were in a viewpoint one evening when some guy decided to stand outside our car and do a little unexpected 'viewing' of his own - as well as pleasuring himself at the same time. Because we weren't expecting this, we stopped canoodling each other and drove off. Sally then commented that he should go home to his wife. To which I asked what about if he didn't have a wife, or maybe he did but she was ill? He is effectively watching live action porn - albeit very soft porn as we were still dressed and only just starting to fondle each other. So is there anything morally wrong with that? Is he cheating on his wife while getting sexual gratification from others? Then came a conversation about at which point it would be cheating... If he arranged to meet a couple to watch them without his wife's knowledge, is he cheating yet? I'd be interested in the thoughts of others... | |||
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"Define "cheating". There must be more than one of us on here who are seeking to achieve a little physical intimacy now and then to replace that which cannot be had at home, due to the long-term ill health of one or other partner, in an otherwise loving/caring relationship. Someone who doesn't want a full-blown relationship, because that would be cheating - emotionally as well as physically. Someone who, for the foregoing reasons, if they had "professional" options available to them, would be using them. Is that person "cheating"? Really? Asking for a friend... If your partner doesn't know you're having sex with someone else then of course it's cheating,irrespective of the reasons. Sally and I had a conversation about this a while ago. When we were younger and a little more adventurous we were in a viewpoint one evening when some guy decided to stand outside our car and do a little unexpected 'viewing' of his own - as well as pleasuring himself at the same time. Because we weren't expecting this, we stopped canoodling each other and drove off. Sally then commented that he should go home to his wife. To which I asked what about if he didn't have a wife, or maybe he did but she was ill? He is effectively watching live action porn - albeit very soft porn as we were still dressed and only just starting to fondle each other. So is there anything morally wrong with that? Is he cheating on his wife while getting sexual gratification from others? Then came a conversation about at which point it would be cheating... If he arranged to meet a couple to watch them without his wife's knowledge, is he cheating yet? I'd be interested in the thoughts of others..." Everyone watches porn, it kinda goes beyond voyerism when you actively participate in it regardless if your active or not | |||
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"Define "cheating". There must be more than one of us on here who are seeking to achieve a little physical intimacy now and then to replace that which cannot be had at home, due to the long-term ill health of one or other partner, in an otherwise loving/caring relationship. Someone who doesn't want a full-blown relationship, because that would be cheating - emotionally as well as physically. Someone who, for the foregoing reasons, if they had "professional" options available to them, would be using them. Is that person "cheating"? Really? Asking for a friend... If your partner doesn't know you're having sex with someone else then of course it's cheating,irrespective of the reasons. Sally and I had a conversation about this a while ago. When we were younger and a little more adventurous we were in a viewpoint one evening when some guy decided to stand outside our car and do a little unexpected 'viewing' of his own - as well as pleasuring himself at the same time. Because we weren't expecting this, we stopped canoodling each other and drove off. Sally then commented that he should go home to his wife. To which I asked what about if he didn't have a wife, or maybe he did but she was ill? He is effectively watching live action porn - albeit very soft porn as we were still dressed and only just starting to fondle each other. So is there anything morally wrong with that? Is he cheating on his wife while getting sexual gratification from others? Then came a conversation about at which point it would be cheating... If he arranged to meet a couple to watch them without his wife's knowledge, is he cheating yet? I'd be interested in the thoughts of others... Everyone watches porn, it kinda goes beyond voyerism when you actively participate in it regardless if your active or not " Interesting concept... So to clarify what your thoughts are; Porn on a screen is okay. Watching live is not okay. So to put the cat another the pigeons then... Live porn on screen, the sort where you can pay a "cam-girl", is this cheating? Or A recent video I saw where a group of builders in London could see a couple having sex in a nearby hotel and they all stood and watched. They never participated though. Are all these builders cheating? You can see how this conversation created a grey area! Lol  | |||
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"I think most of us cheat one way or another ...not telling your children or friends that you are Swingers is sort of cheating. Anyway, I prefer to play with attached people. In my experience they are more reliable, punctual and 'normal' and less threatening. ...just my opinion... Absolute nonsense. I am cheating because I don’t tell my 12 year old child I like to fuck about a bit??
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That's the biggest load of shit I've ever read seriously
So according to your logic me and my wife decide to become swingers after we got married with 100% transparency, mutual respect and agreement but because we have not told say my parents we are swingers or even we haven't told my friends at work we are swingers we are cheaters??? That's what yours saying above.
KJ x
I think when you quoted my response you weren’t telling me it was a load of bollocks ... more to the person that said if you don’t tell family and friends the. you’re cheating.
I hope so anyway
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"Define "cheating". There must be more than one of us on here who are seeking to achieve a little physical intimacy now and then to replace that which cannot be had at home, due to the long-term ill health of one or other partner, in an otherwise loving/caring relationship. Someone who doesn't want a full-blown relationship, because that would be cheating - emotionally as well as physically. Someone who, for the foregoing reasons, if they had "professional" options available to them, would be using them. Is that person "cheating"? Really? Asking for a friend... If your partner doesn't know you're having sex with someone else then of course it's cheating,irrespective of the reasons. Sally and I had a conversation about this a while ago. When we were younger and a little more adventurous we were in a viewpoint one evening when some guy decided to stand outside our car and do a little unexpected 'viewing' of his own - as well as pleasuring himself at the same time. Because we weren't expecting this, we stopped canoodling each other and drove off. Sally then commented that he should go home to his wife. To which I asked what about if he didn't have a wife, or maybe he did but she was ill? He is effectively watching live action porn - albeit very soft porn as we were still dressed and only just starting to fondle each other. So is there anything morally wrong with that? Is he cheating on his wife while getting sexual gratification from others? Then came a conversation about at which point it would be cheating... If he arranged to meet a couple to watch them without his wife's knowledge, is he cheating yet? I'd be interested in the thoughts of others... Everyone watches porn, it kinda goes beyond voyerism when you actively participate in it regardless if your active or not Interesting concept... So to clarify what your thoughts are; Porn on a screen is okay. Watching live is not okay. So to put the cat another the pigeons then... Live porn on screen, the sort where you can pay a "cam-girl", is this cheating? Or A recent video I saw where a group of builders in London could see a couple having sex in a nearby hotel and they all stood and watched. They never participated though. Are all these builders cheating? You can see how this conversation created a grey area! Lol "My view is on cheating! If you purposely go out with intent to look for sex then your cheating. If you in advertisly participate by watching and gaining satisfaction from watching then yes you are cheating unless you mention to your partner what you participated in. | |||
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"Swinging is NOT cheating, omg so many singles think they can justify being unfaithful by claiming they are swingers when they haven’t got a bloody clue about swinging, pisses us off to be honest You are stating the obvious. Why do some swinging couples like to assume the moral high ground? Why get pissed off? Just stick to other couples. " For the same reason singles join a swingers site rather than just go out and pick up a date or join a sex site.... this was a great swingers site but is fast becoming just a sex site, and the two things are very different. | |||
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"I think they should state as such on their profile that way the people who aren't bothered can be the focus point. Rather than wasting people's time. The amount of people cheating on here is unreal and I personally don't want to be part of that equation. " Ditto. I won't knowingly meet a cheater, so if that info was on people's profiles it would save folk like us some time! Of course, you could never rely on everyone on the site to tell the truth, so it's not an idea that's actually possible to implement. Would just be nice. | |||
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"Swinging is NOT cheating, omg so many singles think they can justify being unfaithful by claiming they are swingers when they haven’t got a bloody clue about swinging, pisses us off to be honest You are stating the obvious. Why do some swinging couples like to assume the moral high ground? Why get pissed off? Just stick to other couples. For the same reason singles join a swingers site rather than just go out and pick up a date or join a sex site.... this was a great swingers site but is fast becoming just a sex site, and the two things are very different. " It's still a swingers site even when people use it as a sex site. Just hard work ing out the bad apples. But it's not because singles are on it couples do the same. Chase a single fem invite her over get her do all the pleasuring then that's it game over. Take a bi curious fem just wants receive oral and not return favour. She just likes getting it off a woman and the guy expects a bj and maybe a quick fuck. No different it's not mutual just using a woman. The majority of single guys on here are just using it as a sex site but doesn't mean women and couples aren't doing the same thing. Just they are the minority. The ones who spoil it for everyone else are those who don't give a shit what their temporary sexual partners wants or gets. Selfish users I shall say again and again swinging is about mutual pleasures regardless of the dynamics. *Informed consent and mutual pleasure* I don't need to add clubs would be quite quiet without your single fems or the single guys for those of you who like gangbangs. But I digress here those women coupled or not tend not to be fussy at all about who sticks their dick in, or even if there's not a condom. Could even argue gangbangs aren't swinging either going by your ideology of swinging. Just couples soft swap and full swap. But this site is as it is, full of couples looking for bulls, unicorns and gangbangs. Wouldn't be as fun without the singles now would it? It would be as dead as other swingers sites. Fabswingers is the largest UK swinging website. Doubt you'd find any better because I haven't. Variety is the spice of life | |||
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" Hi Should those members who are cheating on thier partner state so on there profile? It amazes me how many members who are married are on here without thier spouses consent yet fail to mention it until you specifically question / challenge them in PM's. It's like they put clues such as can't accommodate, discretion required etc and somehow that's enough.
I had one guy admit he married without her knowing so I explained that me and my wife are recently married and don't believe in cheating and won't meet anyone how is. He next response was we can still meet as long as I don't tell my wife he is married. It was like the lies were just second nature / roll off the tongue. I explained I don't lie or hide anything from my wife and she has equal access to our fab account so can see his messages.
Me and my wife have been cheated on badly in past relationships so don't want any part of that been done to someone else. At the same time we don't judge its your lives at the end of the day we just feel you should be upfront so potential fab meets / pay partners can make an informed choice as to wether they meet you or not.
To balance it we do really appreciate those who are upfront.
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"Profile declarations that people want to be aware of: Cheating. Being bisexual. Smoker. 420 friendly. extreme kinks. habitual barebacker. Most recent case of an STI. BMP supporting racist. Profile declarations that are more likely to get you a block or deleted message and / or holier than thou snotogram: Cheating. Being bisexual(male). Smoker. 420 friendly. extreme kinks. habitual barebacker. Most recent case of an STI. BMP supporting racist. We want honesty but then castigate and preach to those who are honest. We don't want applause, praise or medals for being honest about cheating. However the monthly tirade I get from a certain couple who choose to educate me on how despicable I am for cheating gets tiresome. The more things are demonised, the more underground it is pushed. Look at any bareback thread. We all know the risks and most choose to play wearing protection. If we really want people to be honest, stop throwing stones at them. Just make a mental nite, decide they are not for you, block, then go quietly about your business. Unless of course you thrive on virtue posting... " Too many thrive on this unfortunately. Not everyone blessed with a partner who wants sex as often as them or with a partner who's into the same things. | |||
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"Are you looking for a partner or someone you connect with and want a fun time. Does it really matter one way or another whether they are married or not. You are on here to have fun not pry into their perdonsl lives. So why does it matter. Im not cheating but even if i was its nobody elses business but ours. You either like the person or persons and have a connection and want to meet up for fun or you dnt. So stop hitting the moral high ground and concentrate on the reasons you are here. Its not a date or to find a relationship. " Sorry meant Personal lives | |||
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"Are you looking for a partner or someone you connect with and want a fun time. Does it really matter one way or another whether they are married or not. You are on here to have fun not pry into their perdonsl lives. So why does it matter. Im not cheating but even if i was its nobody elses business but ours. You either like the person or persons and have a connection and want to meet up for fun or you dnt. So stop hitting the moral high ground and concentrate on the reasons you are here. Its not a date or to find a relationship. " Well said | |||
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"Are you looking for a partner or someone you connect with and want a fun time. Does it really matter one way or another whether they are married or not. You are on here to have fun not pry into their perdonsl lives. So why does it matter. Im not cheating but even if i was its nobody elses business but ours. You either like the person or persons and have a connection and want to meet up for fun or you dnt. So stop hitting the moral high ground and concentrate on the reasons you are here. Its not a date or to find a relationship. " It matters a lot to me,I fail to have a huge amount of respect for someone that cheats behind a partners back as I know how shit it is,so excuse me for wanting to have a modicum of respect for those I take my clothes of for. It doesn't matter to you and that's fine,it matters to me and that's also fine. | |||
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"From my or our experience, a lot of people have turned this site into a meetand fuck site....and thats the issue. We have both me women that are cheating and have actually had sex in the marital bed. I dont think it matters if people are married....if everyone agrees then so be it. We have turned a female down before who wanted to meet with her fuck buddy....he was her husbands friend. Each to their own but this wasnt for us" Nice friend! If hubby didn't know of course. | |||
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"Are you looking for a partner or someone you connect with and want a fun time. Does it really matter one way or another whether they are married or not. You are on here to have fun not pry into their perdonsl lives. So why does it matter. Im not cheating but even if i was its nobody elses business but ours. You either like the person or persons and have a connection and want to meet up for fun or you dnt. So stop hitting the moral high ground and concentrate on the reasons you are here. Its not a date or to find a relationship. " If you’re ok with it then that’s great. I prefer not to, mainly because I do date from fab. Moral high ground? Not in the slightest. V x | |||
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"People will have different definitions of cheating. For example if someone is told that they can see other people by their partner, but that they don't want to know about it. Do they have permission or not? Is it still technically cheating if they do have permission?" If someone is told that they can see other people by their partner, but that they don't want to know about it then yes they have permission - the partner just don’t want/need the details - that’s cool. I had one guy write the other night that his cheating made his marriage better. Delusional. | |||
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"Some people are honest. Some lie. Some are lying and honest about their lying. Does it really matter?
Sometimes I think we expect people to have every bit of their life on their profile. I believe thats why as humans we talk to each other i.e to FIND OUT things!
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? Are you meaning that dishonesty should be accepted? Is swinging and extra marital sex the same in your opinion? ? What’s dishonesty got to do with it? Surely you are not that naive? Cheating on your partner involves dishonesty. Or do you see it differently? ? Who’s being naive? It’s been going on forever - reading the number of cheating posts on here you’d be forgiven for thinking it’s something new. Your next thoughts?? Is cheating dishonest or not??" Absolutely, completely and utterly dishonest.. | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? Are you meaning that dishonesty should be accepted? Is swinging and extra marital sex the same in your opinion? ? What’s dishonesty got to do with it? " EVERYTHING! If someone is prepared to treat the person they "Love" With such little care and respect. Then why on earth should a relative stranger feel like they could trust you. Getting naked and having sex with someone is where many of us are at our most vulnerable. I'd rather do that with people I feel I can trust, so would most people on here. Unlike many of the other things people dislike on here.. Cheating has the potential to hurt others who've no connection to Fab whatsoever. Innocents. Partners, children, other family members and friends. Personally I want no part in that, because I learnt how much pain you can cause by being dishonest. It's not a judgement on the person cheating, it's just stating the plain and obvious facts. If you have to lie to get what you want, then you're doing something wrong and you know it. No matter how you try and justify it to yourself and others. | |||
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"People should put whatever they want on their profiles... If you start dictating one thing, where does it stop? " This....is the fact that people are married the only lie told on profiles.....of course not. I'll bet the majority of profiles are misleading to say the least. | |||
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"Not all people are unable to accommodate because they're cheating. There are dozens of other reasons. Personally I split with my ex years ago but my kids continued to live with me, I didn't really think it appropriate to have people round whilst they're about. What about people that flat share, live with parents or just don't feel comfortable about where they live? Just as you can't judge a book by its cover, you can't judge a swinger by his/her ability to accommodate." I agree 100% not been able to accommodate on its own it's definitely not an indicator that somebody is cheating. Now if somebody can't accommodate, makes statements about needing to be discrete, is super cagey about face pictures and they can only meet at very restricted times for example only daytimes between 12pm and 2pm then taken all of that together there's a good chance (not 100%) they are cheating. KJ x | |||
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"People should put whatever they want on their profiles... If you start dictating one thing, where does it stop? This....is the fact that people are married the only lie told on profiles.....of course not. I'll bet the majority of profiles are misleading to say the least. " I tend to agree. I take the profile with a pinch of salt generally. But hope (not always successfully) that any further connection is based on openness and honesty. Vx | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? Are you meaning that dishonesty should be accepted? Is swinging and extra marital sex the same in your opinion? ? What’s dishonesty got to do with it? EVERYTHING! If someone is prepared to treat the person they "Love" With such little care and respect. Then why on earth should a relative stranger feel like they could trust you. Getting naked and having sex with someone is where many of us are at our most vulnerable. I'd rather do that with people I feel I can trust, so would most people on here. Unlike many of the other things people dislike on here.. Cheating has the potential to hurt others who've no connection to Fab whatsoever. Innocents. Partners, children, other family members and friends. Personally I want no part in that, because I learnt how much pain you can cause by being dishonest. It's not a judgement on the person cheating, it's just stating the plain and obvious facts. If you have to lie to get what you want, then you're doing something wrong and you know it. No matter how you try and justify it to yourself and others. "
I always say when your trying to justify your cheating ask yourself this - what would be the consequences if you were caught?
We were chatting to a couple not long back who had met a married guy who hadn't be honest in fact he lied and said he was single. A week after the meet the couple received a ton of abuse from a new account who turned out to be his wife. She had got into his phone and his fab account and found who he had messaged and met up with. Now that wife also had the couples face pictures / rude pictures they had sent via private message to the married guy when they were chatting before agreeing to meet. The wife read the verifications, every message etc. The wife in her anger was attacking the couple making threats about the pictures etc and in the end the police had to get involved.
For me the couple were lied to so were as much a victim as they guys wife was. They should never have been put in that position by the guy.
To play devil's advocate with the same example if the couple knew the guy was cheating and decided to meet anyway would they then be as innocent when the shite hits the fan?
They way we see it is if you want to cheat that's fine we are not judging but we deserved the right to make an informed choice as to wether we join in your decite or not.
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"Are you looking for a partner or someone you connect with and want a fun time. Does it really matter one way or another whether they are married or not. You are on here to have fun not pry into their perdonsl lives. So why does it matter. Im not cheating but even if i was its nobody elses business but ours. You either like the person or persons and have a connection and want to meet up for fun or you dnt. So stop hitting the moral high ground and concentrate on the reasons you are here. Its not a date or to find a relationship. " You are right, it’s not a date site, nor a shag site, it’s a swingers site, the clue is in the name, and it’s not moral high ground, but real swingers don’t cheat, ever! | |||
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"Or should the Fab community be less judgemental and dare I say it, a little more ‘French’ and grown up in their approach to extra marital sex? Are you meaning that dishonesty should be accepted? Is swinging and extra marital sex the same in your opinion? ? What’s dishonesty got to do with it? EVERYTHING! If someone is prepared to treat the person they "Love" With such little care and respect. Then why on earth should a relative stranger feel like they could trust you. Getting naked and having sex with someone is where many of us are at our most vulnerable. I'd rather do that with people I feel I can trust, so would most people on here. Unlike many of the other things people dislike on here.. Cheating has the potential to hurt others who've no connection to Fab whatsoever. Innocents. Partners, children, other family members and friends. Personally I want no part in that, because I learnt how much pain you can cause by being dishonest. It's not a judgement on the person cheating, it's just stating the plain and obvious facts. If you have to lie to get what you want, then you're doing something wrong and you know it. No matter how you try and justify it to yourself and others. " Exactly this | |||
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"Are you looking for a partner or someone you connect with and want a fun time. Does it really matter one way or another whether they are married or not. You are on here to have fun not pry into their perdonsl lives. So why does it matter. Im not cheating but even if i was its nobody elses business but ours. You either like the person or persons and have a connection and want to meet up for fun or you dnt. So stop hitting the moral high ground and concentrate on the reasons you are here. Its not a date or to find a relationship. You are right, it’s not a date site, nor a shag site, it’s a swingers site, the clue is in the name, and it’s not moral high ground, but real swingers don’t cheat, ever! " It’s a date site for me if I want it to be V x | |||
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"Are you looking for a partner or someone you connect with and want a fun time. Does it really matter one way or another whether they are married or not. You are on here to have fun not pry into their perdonsl lives. So why does it matter. Im not cheating but even if i was its nobody elses business but ours. You either like the person or persons and have a connection and want to meet up for fun or you dnt. So stop hitting the moral high ground and concentrate on the reasons you are here. Its not a date or to find a relationship. You are right, it’s not a date site, nor a shag site, it’s a swingers site, the clue is in the name, and it’s not moral high ground, but real swingers don’t cheat, ever! " What is a real swinger? | |||
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"Not all people are unable to accommodate because they're cheating. There are dozens of other reasons. Personally I split with my ex years ago but my kids continued to live with me, I didn't really think it appropriate to have people round whilst they're about. What about people that flat share, live with parents or just don't feel comfortable about where they live? Just as you can't judge a book by its cover, you can't judge a swinger by his/her ability to accommodate. I agree 100% not been able to accommodate on its own it's definitely not an indicator that somebody is cheating. Now if somebody can't accommodate, makes statements about needing to be discrete, is super cagey about face pictures and they can only meet at very restricted times for example only daytimes between 12pm and 2pm then taken all of that together there's a good chance (not 100%) they are cheating. KJ x " And/or they live in a tiny community and don't want their private business broadcast, either by accident or design. I'm married (a long story, told elsewhere), AND live in a tiny community. Not looking for sympathy or understanding even, but we all have needs, and I would go so far as to say that sex is a fairly basic human right (almost). Walk a mile in my shoes... | |||
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"Not all people are unable to accommodate because they're cheating. There are dozens of other reasons. Personally I split with my ex years ago but my kids continued to live with me, I didn't really think it appropriate to have people round whilst they're about. What about people that flat share, live with parents or just don't feel comfortable about where they live? Just as you can't judge a book by its cover, you can't judge a swinger by his/her ability to accommodate. I agree 100% not been able to accommodate on its own it's definitely not an indicator that somebody is cheating. Now if somebody can't accommodate, makes statements about needing to be discrete, is super cagey about face pictures and they can only meet at very restricted times for example only daytimes between 12pm and 2pm then taken all of that together there's a good chance (not 100%) they are cheating. KJ x And/or they live in a tiny community and don't want their private business broadcast, either by accident or design. I'm married (a long story, told elsewhere), AND live in a tiny community. Not looking for sympathy or understanding even, but we all have needs, and I would go so far as to say that sex is a fairly basic human right (almost). Walk a mile in my shoes..." A human right?? Jesus. Incels. | |||
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"Not all people are unable to accommodate because they're cheating. There are dozens of other reasons. Personally I split with my ex years ago but my kids continued to live with me, I didn't really think it appropriate to have people round whilst they're about. What about people that flat share, live with parents or just don't feel comfortable about where they live? Just as you can't judge a book by its cover, you can't judge a swinger by his/her ability to accommodate. I agree 100% not been able to accommodate on its own it's definitely not an indicator that somebody is cheating. Now if somebody can't accommodate, makes statements about needing to be discrete, is super cagey about face pictures and they can only meet at very restricted times for example only daytimes between 12pm and 2pm then taken all of that together there's a good chance (not 100%) they are cheating. KJ x And/or they live in a tiny community and don't want their private business broadcast, either by accident or design. I'm married (a long story, told elsewhere), AND live in a tiny community. Not looking for sympathy or understanding even, but we all have needs, and I would go so far as to say that sex is a fairly basic human right (almost). Walk a mile in my shoes..." No one has an automatic right to sex. Basic human rights? No. Just no. | |||
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"Not all people are unable to accommodate because they're cheating. There are dozens of other reasons. Personally I split with my ex years ago but my kids continued to live with me, I didn't really think it appropriate to have people round whilst they're about. What about people that flat share, live with parents or just don't feel comfortable about where they live? Just as you can't judge a book by its cover, you can't judge a swinger by his/her ability to accommodate. I agree 100% not been able to accommodate on its own it's definitely not an indicator that somebody is cheating. Now if somebody can't accommodate, makes statements about needing to be discrete, is super cagey about face pictures and they can only meet at very restricted times for example only daytimes between 12pm and 2pm then taken all of that together there's a good chance (not 100%) they are cheating. KJ x And/or they live in a tiny community and don't want their private business broadcast, either by accident or design. I'm married (a long story, told elsewhere), AND live in a tiny community. Not looking for sympathy or understanding even, but we all have needs, and I would go so far as to say that sex is a fairly basic human right (almost). Walk a mile in my shoes..." A basic human right is usually guaranteed by the government.  | |||
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"Not all people are unable to accommodate because they're cheating. There are dozens of other reasons. Personally I split with my ex years ago but my kids continued to live with me, I didn't really think it appropriate to have people round whilst they're about. What about people that flat share, live with parents or just don't feel comfortable about where they live? Just as you can't judge a book by its cover, you can't judge a swinger by his/her ability to accommodate. I agree 100% not been able to accommodate on its own it's definitely not an indicator that somebody is cheating. Now if somebody can't accommodate, makes statements about needing to be discrete, is super cagey about face pictures and they can only meet at very restricted times for example only daytimes between 12pm and 2pm then taken all of that together there's a good chance (not 100%) they are cheating. KJ x And/or they live in a tiny community and don't want their private business broadcast, either by accident or design. I'm married (a long story, told elsewhere), AND live in a tiny community. Not looking for sympathy or understanding even, but we all have needs, and I would go so far as to say that sex is a fairly basic human right (almost). Walk a mile in my shoes..." Does your wife know this is how you feel, i.e. that you think she owes you sex? Does she know it is problematic for you not to have it? Why won't she have it, it is her basic right as well, following your logic? | |||
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"Not all people are unable to accommodate because they're cheating. There are dozens of other reasons. Personally I split with my ex years ago but my kids continued to live with me, I didn't really think it appropriate to have people round whilst they're about. What about people that flat share, live with parents or just don't feel comfortable about where they live? Just as you can't judge a book by its cover, you can't judge a swinger by his/her ability to accommodate. I agree 100% not been able to accommodate on its own it's definitely not an indicator that somebody is cheating. Now if somebody can't accommodate, makes statements about needing to be discrete, is super cagey about face pictures and they can only meet at very restricted times for example only daytimes between 12pm and 2pm then taken all of that together there's a good chance (not 100%) they are cheating. KJ x And/or they live in a tiny community and don't want their private business broadcast, either by accident or design. I'm married (a long story, told elsewhere), AND live in a tiny community. Not looking for sympathy or understanding even, but we all have needs, and I would go so far as to say that sex is a fairly basic human right (almost). Walk a mile in my shoes..." Nobody has a right to have sex with someone else. No exception. V x | |||
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"And thats exactly why fabSWINGERS.com is going down hill. " Why is that then? | |||
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"People lie. Don't say that you won't meet cheaters, they will just lie. Say you will meet them if they are honest with you about their situation. Then they will be more open and tell you and you don't have to meet them if you don't want to. " swinging is having sex with people and your partner knows , it's not making you holier than thou , your still cheating your marriage vows , your business on here is your own life | |||
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"You say that you don't judge, but you just have." Who? V x | |||
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"OP..I think that there should be a whole forum dedicated to those who cheat, so that they can be named & shamed, and that the good, decent folk of Fab can take the moral high-ground." Yes, and have their names and pictures printed in the Daily Mail along with a lurid description of their disgusting perversions. | |||
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"People lie. Don't say that you won't meet cheaters, they will just lie. Say you will meet them if they are honest with you about their situation. Then they will be more open and tell you and you don't have to meet them if you don't want to. swinging is having sex with people and your partner knows , it's not making you holier than thou , your still cheating your marriage vows , your business on here is your own life " No idea what your post has to do with mine. | |||
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"Are you looking for a partner or someone you connect with and want a fun time. Does it really matter one way or another whether they are married or not. You are on here to have fun not pry into their perdonsl lives. So why does it matter. Im not cheating but even if i was its nobody elses business but ours. You either like the person or persons and have a connection and want to meet up for fun or you dnt. So stop hitting the moral high ground and concentrate on the reasons you are here. Its not a date or to find a relationship. It matters a lot to me,I fail to have a huge amount of respect for someone that cheats behind a partners back as I know how shit it is,so excuse me for wanting to have a modicum of respect for those I take my clothes of for. It doesn't matter to you and that's fine,it matters to me and that's also fine." So if they tell you they are not attached does that make it alright then. Even though they most probably are married. We have a huge amount of self respect for ourselves and who we take our clothes off for but we do not judge anyone because we dnt know the facts behind them being here. So yes each to their own | |||
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"Not all people are unable to accommodate because they're cheating. There are dozens of other reasons. Personally I split with my ex years ago but my kids continued to live with me, I didn't really think it appropriate to have people round whilst they're about. What about people that flat share, live with parents or just don't feel comfortable about where they live? Just as you can't judge a book by its cover, you can't judge a swinger by his/her ability to accommodate. I agree 100% not been able to accommodate on its own it's definitely not an indicator that somebody is cheating. Now if somebody can't accommodate, makes statements about needing to be discrete, is super cagey about face pictures and they can only meet at very restricted times for example only daytimes between 12pm and 2pm then taken all of that together there's a good chance (not 100%) they are cheating. KJ x And/or they live in a tiny community and don't want their private business broadcast, either by accident or design. I'm married (a long story, told elsewhere), AND live in a tiny community. Not looking for sympathy or understanding even, but we all have needs, and I would go so far as to say that sex is a fairly basic human right (almost). Walk a mile in my shoes..." What about walking a mile in your wife's shoes?? Does she not deserve the basic human right of honesty and trust from her life partner? You have chosen to find sex elsewhere, we agree that is perfectly your right to choose. What about her right to chose as to whether she finds that acceptable or not, and if she doesn't find it acceptable she can divorce you. Cheating isn't a game, it destroys lives. And that isn't being judgemental, it is a factual statement. | |||
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