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timewasters and fakes
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Would you rather pay an annual subscription to Fab in the hope of reducing the number of time waster / fakes which would then allow genuine swingers to meet real people?"
There are other sites with subscriptions where they complain about fakes and time wasters too... |
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By *ANDA2Couple
over a year ago
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"I don't really understand how that works, fakes can also pay subscriptions. How would you stop them buying a subscription. I'm sure they do already buy site supporter passes? "
Yes time wasters can by subscriptions.
A subscription does reduce the amount of idiots who keep joining- leaving- rejoing - leaving etc and have no intention of ‘swinging’. They just want to perv or try get a quick shag and thinks it’s a sex site.
Once it’s costs them money then being obnoxious or having a laugh comes at a price they don’t want to pay.
We are members of a few sites and with the paid ones we get a lot less hassle.
Possibly a basic £10.00 charge to join then but the usual fab options would certainly reduce the idiots.
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"I don't really understand how that works, fakes can also pay subscriptions. How would you stop them buying a subscription. I'm sure they do already buy site supporter passes?
Yes time wasters can by subscriptions.
A subscription does reduce the amount of idiots who keep joining- leaving- rejoing - leaving etc and have no intention of ‘swinging’. They just want to perv or try get a quick shag and thinks it’s a sex site.
Once it’s costs them money then being obnoxious or having a laugh comes at a price they don’t want to pay.
We are members of a few sites and with the paid ones we get a lot less hassle.
Possibly a basic £10.00 charge to join then but the usual fab options would certainly reduce the idiots.
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Definitely agree with you, we've been saying this for a long time. |
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"I don't really understand how that works, fakes can also pay subscriptions. How would you stop them buying a subscription. I'm sure they do already buy site supporter passes?
Yes time wasters can by subscriptions.
A subscription does reduce the amount of idiots who keep joining- leaving- rejoing - leaving etc and have no intention of ‘swinging’. They just want to perv or try get a quick shag and thinks it’s a sex site.
Once it’s costs them money then being obnoxious or having a laugh comes at a price they don’t want to pay.
We are members of a few sites and with the paid ones we get a lot less hassle.
Possibly a basic £10.00 charge to join then but the usual fab options would certainly reduce the idiots.
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It would but it would also cut down drastically on the number of women dipping their toe in not yet sure if you want to swing. |
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By *isa2018Couple
over a year ago
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What would be handy is having some kind of general feedback system where others can comment on a profile with a rating from 1-5 say, rather than be limited to only positively verifying people who do actually meet. At them moment no one is allowed to name those that are unreliable and that is one of the negative parts of this site. Why shouldn't you be able to let others knkw that a particular profile engages in chat and promises to meet but then doesn't turn up? Surely that is pertinent information for the next person or couple engaging with that individual? Of course, for every comment left on a profile that individual shoukd be able to make a single counter comment by way of explanation, then let new viewers make their own minds up by looking at the feedback. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Would you rather pay an annual subscription to Fab in the hope of reducing the number of time waster / fakes which would then allow genuine swingers to meet real people?"
Met some genuine no payers doesn’t always follow |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What would be handy is having some kind of general feedback system where others can comment on a profile with a rating from 1-5 say, rather than be limited to only positively verifying people who do actually meet. At them moment no one is allowed to name those that are unreliable and that is one of the negative parts of this site. Why shouldn't you be able to let others knkw that a particular profile engages in chat and promises to meet but then doesn't turn up? Surely that is pertinent information for the next person or couple engaging with that individual? Of course, for every comment left on a profile that individual shoukd be able to make a single counter comment by way of explanation, then let new viewers make their own minds up by looking at the feedback."
Didn’t you chat endlessly to us, arrange a meet and never show up?????
See how easy it is to name & shame with no evidence? Of course we’ve never spoken to you.
Loads of people get the arse, when you don’t want to meet them, don’t want to meet them again, or they want you to be exclusive, enough petty nonsense going on in clubs and cliques, sex & gossip has always gone hand in hand, imagine if it was open season on here, a complete shambles |
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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago
The South |
"What would be handy is having some kind of general feedback system where others can comment on a profile with a rating from 1-5 say, rather than be limited to only positively verifying people who do actually meet. At them moment no one is allowed to name those that are unreliable and that is one of the negative parts of this site. Why shouldn't you be able to let others knkw that a particular profile engages in chat and promises to meet but then doesn't turn up? Surely that is pertinent information for the next person or couple engaging with that individual? Of course, for every comment left on a profile that individual shoukd be able to make a single counter comment by way of explanation, then let new viewers make their own minds up by looking at the feedback."
Great idea and not at all open to abuse.
There's a very good reason why naming and shaming isn't allowed, nor should it be in my humble opinion.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What would be handy is having some kind of general feedback system where others can comment on a profile with a rating from 1-5 say, rather than be limited to only positively verifying people who do actually meet. At them moment no one is allowed to name those that are unreliable and that is one of the negative parts of this site. Why shouldn't you be able to let others knkw that a particular profile engages in chat and promises to meet but then doesn't turn up? Surely that is pertinent information for the next person or couple engaging with that individual? Of course, for every comment left on a profile that individual shoukd be able to make a single counter comment by way of explanation, then let new viewers make their own minds up by looking at the feedback."
Cause pepole would abuse it, we been called fakes just cause we not interested in a guy that's messaged or after exchanging a couple messages there not for us. |
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"I have never had a problem with, or been affected by “fakes” or “time wasters”.
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Same here but then im not easily misled and like an early phone call within a day or so to make sure they are who they say they are and possibly a chat on cam too trust is better developed early both ways. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"I have never had a problem with, or been affected by “fakes” or “time wasters”.
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Same here but then im not easily misled and like an early phone call within a day or so to make sure they are who they say they are and possibly a chat on cam too trust is better developed early both ways. "
That makes three of us - the fakes and timewasters are easily spotted with a little due diligence and spending time swapping messages of a non-sexual nature rather than diving straight into meeting.
From all I've heard of other pay sites they are no better than here anyway, and some of them use some underhand methods to keep you "hooked" and paying the subscription.
On top of that can you imagine the sense of "entitlement" that would come from some of those that have paid the subscription but still can't get a meet - can hear it now "Total waste of money I paid £x to join, and no-one will meet me blah blah blah"  |
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Think fakes are easy to tell once you have been on this site for a while, mostly they talk about sex almost always straight away , check verification see if they have actually meet anyone, also see if they have meet people you have meet |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There are sites out there that require payment in order for you to be able to message others.
These sites generate messaged from other users to reel you in and get you to part with your hard earned, and of course, once you've paid, the messages dry up. |
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By *avartMan
over a year ago
Barnsley |
I don't think payment will actually identify fakes.
I use things like:
Spelling, Punctuation and Grammer on a profile. Is it concise and to the point or is it a huge block of text, that sounds like a rant, with a list of silly demands.
Pictures. Are they recent, clear, varied. Do they look like they've been borrowed from someone's social media.
Do they sound like a normal person. Reasonable, personable and so on.
Verifications means absolutely nothing. I'm sure it's easy to set up multiple accounts and cross verify them. How do you know that the person verifying is trustworthy?
Going with gut feeling and asking a few questions is ideally the way forward. Exactly the same as meeting someone in a pub.
Just my two cents. I might sound like an arse having said that, but as said above, there's no magic solution. |
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"Enable the message filter that stops non site supporters from messaging you. You will then only be able to receive messages from people who have paid to use the site.
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There you go again with your logic and common sense......
It'll never catch on.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Define fake/timewaster .......
Sometimes I reply to someone once or twice and maybe my third reply is ‘no thanks, enjoy fab’ and I’m labelled a timewaster or fake usually with a bit of abuse for good measure!!
Our definitions of timewasting will vary and naming n shaming should never be allowed, the rubbish people will make up just because they’ve been rejected. If I’d have had to pay a joining fee when I originally signed up 6yrs ago I just wouldn’t have bothered, I was just seeing what it was all about. A joining fee or higher monthly fee would put off genuine single woman who there isn’t many of anyway |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s mostly single women profiles that are fake......
Women don’t pretend to be men on the internet..."
A lot of couple profiles aren’t what they seem either |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We seem to identify the fakes ok, maybe we will waste a day chatting before they drop themselves in it, certainly never been let down by anyone at a meet, there are numerous clues, but not wanting a chat beforehand is the easiest one |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Totally agree with this.
So many fakes on here or morons obsessed with being ‘top of the hot pics’ due to their incredibly low self esteem.
Subscription is the way forward."
And how is a joining fee or higher monthly fee going to change that?
What’s a fake? Do they have money ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We seem to identify the fakes ok, maybe we will waste a day chatting before they drop themselves in it, certainly never been let down by anyone at a meet, there are numerous clues, but not wanting a chat beforehand is the easiest one "
Exactly this
Although I have had the odd let down, I’ve certainly learnt how to wheedle them out!
I think changing filters/settings and wising up is the way forward |
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"I don't really understand how that works, fakes can also pay subscriptions. How would you stop them buying a subscription. I'm sure they do already buy site supporter passes?
Yes time wasters can by subscriptions.
A subscription does reduce the amount of idiots who keep joining- leaving- rejoing - leaving etc and have no intention of ‘swinging’. They just want to perv or try get a quick shag and thinks it’s a sex site.
Once it’s costs them money then being obnoxious or having a laugh comes at a price they don’t want to pay.
We are members of a few sites and with the paid ones we get a lot less hassle.
Possibly a basic £10.00 charge to join then but the usual fab options would certainly reduce the idiots.
Definitely agree with you, we've been saying this for a long time."
We are another in agreement, would look at £25-30 though for new joiners.
Maybe, initially existing members without any form of verification should pay this too.
Yes there will be existing members that fall in the latter category, but sadly like many things in life you can't please all of the people all off the time.
And yes, some will find loopholes and slip through the net. However it will without question filter out those chancers who populate here without any form of disincentives that discourage their impact on behaviours that frequently see good people with honourable motivation be victims and leave the scene, or at least this site.
And of course those with money to burn will also still join, but it seems to us, lots join just to perv, for a laugh with mates or just for vendictive motivations. If these types can at least be hit with a cost that makes them think we'll that's my beer money for a night gone, do I really want to spend that on whim for some cheap thrills.
Those cheap thrills cost nothing at the moment but do encourage those inclined to do so, to make fab life more challenging and time consuming, simply by having to have out those messages that are some form of trophy by the senders in hopes of getting a response that feeds their aims.
Just our thoughts. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I honestly think some people don’t want to do any work investigating the people they are potentially going to have sex with...
They believe that paying $10 a month should compel the owners of a website to do all the work for them.... |
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We've often thought that there should be another level of meets / profiles on here
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If your pics are older than 3/6 months , you slip out of the upper group
Let's face it , it's no hassle to take a pic
If you've not had a meet for 3/6 months , you slip out of the upper group
If you are for real , you will know someone , have had meets and will be able to sort a social
So you will know that people in this upper group are invested in this site and are more likely to be real |
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"I honestly think some people don’t want to do any work investigating the people they are potentially going to have sex with...
They believe that paying $10 a month should compel the owners of a website to do all the work for them...."
I agree.......
The site works perfectly well if you don't rush, carry out your due diligence and use a bit of common sense.
Take responsibility, it's not the sites job to do the hard work for you.
I was a member of a site that charged £30 a month. The amount of site generated fake profiles was scandalous.
I think it's ridiculous that people want what's essentially a free site to also do their hard work.
Anyone who wants to spend £30 a month is welcome to leave and find a site that will accommodate them.
Doors over there.
*points.....
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I honestly think some people don’t want to do any work investigating the people they are potentially going to have sex with...
They believe that paying $10 a month should compel the owners of a website to do all the work for them....
I agree.......
The site works perfectly well if you don't rush, carry out your due diligence and use a bit of common sense.
Take responsibility, it's not the sites job to do the hard work for you.
I was a member of a site that charged £30 a month. The amount of site generated fake profiles was scandalous.
I think it's ridiculous that people want what's essentially a free site to also do their hard work.
Anyone who wants to spend £30 a month is welcome to leave and find a site that will accommodate them.
Doors over there.
*points.....
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I have the easiest way to out a fake person...
And it’s free....
Just say... here is my number, I’m not looking for sex talk or dirty pics... I’m just looking for a quick hello before investing my time....
The fakes always run for the hills... |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"This would be better and have something that cannot be hidden or altered by the profile holder that logs no shows cancelations etc a little like ebays system "
And how would that be policed?
After all you didn't turn up for the meet we had arranged despite me being there on time etc - which of course isn't true, as no meet was ever arranged between us, but see how easy a system like you propose could be abused? And the site wouldn't be able to prove either way who was telling the truth.
As I, and others, have said further up, the tools to avoid fakes and timewasters are all in your own hands - a little common sense, effort, using filters and other site provided tools, together with not diving into arranging meets or sex chat are all it takes |
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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago
The South |
"I honestly think some people don’t want to do any work investigating the people they are potentially going to have sex with...
They believe that paying $10 a month should compel the owners of a website to do all the work for them....
I agree.......
The site works perfectly well if you don't rush, carry out your due diligence and use a bit of common sense.
Take responsibility, it's not the sites job to do the hard work for you.
I was a member of a site that charged £30 a month. The amount of site generated fake profiles was scandalous.
I think it's ridiculous that people want what's essentially a free site to also do their hard work.
Anyone who wants to spend £30 a month is welcome to leave and find a site that will accommodate them.
Doors over there.
*points.....
I have the easiest way to out a fake person...
And it’s free....
Just say... here is my number, I’m not looking for sex talk or dirty pics... I’m just looking for a quick hello before investing my time....
The fakes always run for the hills..."
Yup. They are so easy to out.
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"This would be better and have something that cannot be hidden or altered by the profile holder that logs no shows cancelations etc a little like ebays system "
I've just logged that you didn't turn up for our meet. |
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