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"The deceit would do it for me. Especially twice. " I agree ^^^^ | |||
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"I love my partner so much but can't stop myself on here I feel myself with her I feel I have to hide who I truly am " Awful | |||
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ??" Do you mean swinging by all sexual activities? My partner is more important to me than swinging so if he wanted to stop, I'd be happy to because I truly love him. | |||
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"You need communicate open and honestly with your partner. If you both agree what you have is worth saving then consider couples counselling. This has got to be a two way street. It's not all about what you want, which to be honest is the way your post reads. For me once the trust has gone it's done for me. Your partner may feel different. Good luck." I think your completely right once the trust is gone that's basically it but I just don't want to lose my family over my sexual needs so I do whatever it takes to keep us ticking on but can't help but feel theres a more compatible lady out there and it's these bad thoughts that make me week out something better | |||
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ?? Do you mean swinging by all sexual activities? My partner is more important to me than swinging so if he wanted to stop, I'd be happy to because I truly love him. " This is what I like to hear. My partner would mean more to me than having other people in our sex lives. | |||
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ?? Do you mean swinging by all sexual activities? My partner is more important to me than swinging so if he wanted to stop, I'd be happy to because I truly love him. " no not swinging I mean for play is non existent I get a fair few quickies but that's it am I so wrong for needing more ?? | |||
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ??" I’d disagree it seems getting sex is the most important thing to you. If your sex life ain’t great at home then maybe put the effort in with your wife instead of spending time on here. Why would she be interested in sex with you after cheating on her, thinking about leaving her, not respecting her wishes about swinging then going behind her back again and coming back on here. She probably knows your back on here and probably feels used and unwanted. My advice would be grow a back bone and ether give up swinging and show your wife you love her or leave and then both of you can have the life you want. For once think of her and not your sexual excitement. | |||
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ?? I’d disagree it seems getting sex is the most important thing to you. If your sex life ain’t great at home then maybe put the effort in with your wife instead of spending time on here. Why would she be interested in sex with you after cheating on her, thinking about leaving her, not respecting her wishes about swinging then going behind her back again and coming back on here. She probably knows your back on here and probably feels used and unwanted. My advice would be grow a back bone and ether give up swinging and show your wife you love her or leave and then both of you can have the life you want. For once think of her and not your sexual excitement. " Absolutely nailed it. OP, you’re being incredibly selfish and quite frankly your behaviour has been disgraceful. | |||
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ?? Do you mean swinging by all sexual activities? My partner is more important to me than swinging so if he wanted to stop, I'd be happy to because I truly love him. This is what I like to hear. My partner would mean more to me than having other people in our sex lives." that's the thing tho if I had the sexual relationship I want with my partner the need to invite others into the bedroom wouldn't be on my mind so much I'm a diagnosed sex addict I even take medication to try lower my sex drive to her level but mine is still far more than hers and problems have been there since very start of relationship | |||
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ?? Do you mean swinging by all sexual activities? My partner is more important to me than swinging so if he wanted to stop, I'd be happy to because I truly love him. no not swinging I mean for play is non existent I get a fair few quickies but that's it am I so wrong for needing more ??" Can you blame her? You've cheated on her, lied to her, gone behind her back and probably devistated her, crushing her esteem in the process. You made her promises and then you did it again!! That is not what you do to someone you love, especially as much as you say you do. Why do you think she doesn't want to be intimate as she used to be with you?) 
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ?? Do you mean swinging by all sexual activities? My partner is more important to me than swinging so if he wanted to stop, I'd be happy to because I truly love him. no not swinging I mean for play is non existent I get a fair few quickies but that's it am I so wrong for needing more ?? Can you blame her? You've cheated on her, lied to her, gone behind her back and probably devistated her, crushing her esteem in the process. You made her promises and then you did it again!! That is not what you do to someone you love, especially as much as you say you do. Why do you think she doesn't want to be intimate as she used to be with you?)
Do her a favour and leave, then you will be free to fulfil your needs "I know everything your saying is right I know how much of a cunt I've been but I need intimacy in my life and when you have to beg your partner of 6years to put your dick in her mouth when every meet I've ever has that's done in first 5mins | |||
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"Diagnosed as a sex addict and medicated for it? Is that on the NHS? ??????" yes through to the NHS was offered sex addicts anonymous meetings but thought that's not best option putting me in a room with lots of horny people so I chose medication it's heart medication that has a side affect of lowering labido | |||
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"Bit sad to read at your age OP!! Have I fucked things forever....Yes, I think you have sorry to say." trust me I know just don't want to admit it | |||
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ?? Do you mean swinging by all sexual activities? My partner is more important to me than swinging so if he wanted to stop, I'd be happy to because I truly love him. This is what I like to hear. My partner would mean more to me than having other people in our sex lives. that's the thing tho if I had the sexual relationship I want with my partner the need to invite others into the bedroom wouldn't be on my mind so much I'm a diagnosed sex addict I even take medication to try lower my sex drive to her level but mine is still far more than hers and problems have been there since very start of relationship" are you receiving other treatment for this? Medication on it's own rarely works in addiction. There has to be some other psychological work done too. And a real commitment on your part to truly want to change | |||
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"Your behaviour is terrible. I feel sorry for your wife. Let her divorce you and spend the rest of your life not realising you lost the most important thing ever. Family." This. | |||
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"Your behaviour is terrible. I feel sorry for your wife. Let her divorce you and spend the rest of your life not realising you lost the most important thing ever. Family." Agree If she was that important you wouldn't be trying to leave her for someone else. Leave her and let her have a chance of a life with someone who deserves her ,you will never change i don't think | |||
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ?? Do you mean swinging by all sexual activities? My partner is more important to me than swinging so if he wanted to stop, I'd be happy to because I truly love him. This is what I like to hear. My partner would mean more to me than having other people in our sex lives. that's the thing tho if I had the sexual relationship I want with my partner the need to invite others into the bedroom wouldn't be on my mind so much I'm a diagnosed sex addict I even take medication to try lower my sex drive to her level but mine is still far more than hers and problems have been there since very start of relationship are you receiving other treatment for this? Medication on it's own rarely works in addiction. There has to be some other psychological work done too. And a real commitment on your part to truly want to change" no currently only taking medication for it it does seem to work a bit as I run out last week and this week has been complete torture for me | |||
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ?? Do you mean swinging by all sexual activities? My partner is more important to me than swinging so if he wanted to stop, I'd be happy to because I truly love him. no not swinging I mean for play is non existent I get a fair few quickies but that's it am I so wrong for needing more ?? Can you blame her? You've cheated on her, lied to her, gone behind her back and probably devistated her, crushing her esteem in the process. You made her promises and then you did it again!! That is not what you do to someone you love, especially as much as you say you do. Why do you think she doesn't want to be intimate as she used to be with you?)
Do her a favour and leave, then you will be free to fulfil your needs I know everything your saying is right I know how much of a cunt I've been but I need intimacy in my life and when you have to beg your partner of 6years to put your dick in her mouth when every meet I've ever has that's done in first 5mins "You have 2 young children, she's possibly too tired to look after your needs! When you meet someone on here it's a bit different to your wife, it's new, exciting. Maybe your wife wants some attention from you that's not sexual. Get a baby sitter and take her out, you forget about yourself when you have young kids. | |||
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"I love my partner so much but can't stop myself on here I feel myself with her I feel I have to hide who I truly am " Be true to yourself | |||
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"If fucking strangers is more important to you than your relationship then you shouldn't be in it. It's not fair on your partner" I know it's not fair on her and in my defense she hasn't been an angel there has been cheating on both sides and although I've done it many more times she did it with people we know and regualy see so me shagging a few strangers is definitely the lesser evil but I'm sure you will all take her side apart from the girl I was gonna a leave her for I've not been looking for a replacement partner just purely sexual | |||
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ??" If you really cared about your family and your Mrs you would not be in here looking for somone to say its ok BECAUSE ITS FAR FROM OK you pressured your partner into this ... hence her pushing u out and saying there I did it ... grow up and stop being selfish before you loose everything x good luck | |||
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ?? If you really cared about your family and your Mrs you would not be in here looking for somone to say its ok BECAUSE ITS FAR FROM OK you pressured your partner into this ... hence her pushing u out and saying there I did it ... grow up and stop being selfish before you loose everything x good luck " cheating is never ok and is never the right path to take but can you honestly say to you could settle for boring quick wham bam sex for the rest of your life I've tried everything to change her I grew impatient | |||
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"I love my partner so much but can't stop myself on here I feel myself with her I feel I have to hide who I truly am Be true to yourself " if I'm true to myself lots of people get hurt | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more " Honestly your wife needs our advice not you, don't be so conceited and selfish let go and let you both move on your clearly no intention of listening to what she wants or needs so give up and walk away your wife and children deserve so much more than your offering ..what you want is only great if all parties agree | |||
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ?? I’d disagree it seems getting sex is the most important thing to you. If your sex life ain’t great at home then maybe put the effort in with your wife instead of spending time on here. Why would she be interested in sex with you after cheating on her, thinking about leaving her, not respecting her wishes about swinging then going behind her back again and coming back on here. She probably knows your back on here and probably feels used and unwanted. My advice would be grow a back bone and ether give up swinging and show your wife you love her or leave and then both of you can have the life you want. For once think of her and not your sexual excitement. " this | |||
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ??" Family isn't all you care about. You need to honestly decide what your priorities are and then follow them. If your priorities are your family, then you have a lot of work to do. If your priorities involve Fab then accept what you are going to lose, give your wife her own life back and still be a commited father (but don't expect this to be on your terms) | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more " I never had children basically because I realised I was a twat who couldn't keep it in his pants! You need to ask yourself some serious questions! | |||
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ?? If you really cared about your family and your Mrs you would not be in here looking for somone to say its ok BECAUSE ITS FAR FROM OK you pressured your partner into this ... hence her pushing u out and saying there I did it ... grow up and stop being selfish before you loose everything x good luck cheating is never ok and is never the right path to take but can you honestly say to you could settle for boring quick wham bam sex for the rest of your life I've tried everything to change her I grew impatient" Wow she deserves better than you | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more " May i ask what happened to the girl of your dreams you met on here. Slightly confused. You want to swing with the mother of your children? So did you dump the girl of your dreams | |||
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"Thanks everyone for the advice given I knew I'd be getting some stick for this post but feel I had to get it out there as I'm really stuck in two minds of what to do with my relationship a big part of me says stay fight and accept that she is the way she is because of what I've done in past but then another part of me says you've finally found who you are and love the lifestyle but never wanted or still don't want to do this alone " Life doesn't always turn out well. Get some relationship counselling for the two of you to help you both sort out how to move forward. Essentially what you've said here is that your wife isn't the woman you want her to be. Counselling will help you sort out if you can both live together with that knowledge. | |||
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"I love my partner so much but can't stop myself on here I feel myself with her I feel I have to hide who I truly am " If you loved her that much you’d delete your account. Don’t give me that bullshit. You won’t change though, even if you leave you’ll be back!! | |||
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"The usual sanctimonious self righteous crap from most of the posters on this one again ! The op is honest enough to say he knows it’s not right , but he can’t help himself . Both he and his wife have cheated on each other , him more than her , but at least he’s openly admitted it . He would like her to join him on a journey on here , she doesn’t want to , and he can’t keep away . I don’t blame him , it sounds like she doesn’t come close to satisfying him . And at the end of the day we only get this one shot at life , so why be miserable and unsatisfied ? If I was the op I would tell my wife I need to be doing this , and although I’d far rather be doing it with her it seems that’s not gonna happen . So if she can’t live with that , then fair enough , leave her and wish her well . Make sure you do your share raising the kids , help all you can after you’ve left her , and get back to enjoying life again . You both deserve better than what you’ve currently got ." its really refreshing to hear from someone with a heart that's in touch with they're head I'm in total agreement with you | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more " Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways...." A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? " Yes I believe so.... if he leaves now his 3 month old will not know him... so waiting is the only way he can form a bond..... Plus he will have to pay child support for 18-21 years.... He might as well stay to control how it’s being spent..... I know sex in a marriage is important, but is it worth giving up half of everything you worked for ? | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? Yes I believe so.... if he leaves now his 3 month old will not know him... so waiting is the only way he can form a bond..... Plus he will have to pay child support for 18-21 years.... He might as well stay to control how it’s being spent..... I know sex in a marriage is important, but is it worth giving up half of everything you worked for ? " Fair points | |||
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"Your behaviour is terrible. I feel sorry for your wife. Let her divorce you and spend the rest of your life not realising you lost the most important thing ever. Family." | |||
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"Your behaviour is terrible. I feel sorry for your wife. Let her divorce you and spend the rest of your life not realising you lost the most important thing ever. Family. "^^THIS BIG TIME ^^ | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? Yes I believe so.... if he leaves now his 3 month old will not know him... so waiting is the only way he can form a bond..... Plus he will have to pay child support for 18-21 years.... He might as well stay to control how it’s being spent..... I know sex in a marriage is important, but is it worth giving up half of everything you worked for ? " Always got your mind on the money.  You're like Gordon Gekko. Greed is good. | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? " He might not get the choice, the decision to stay together or divorce doesn't rest solely with him. | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? Yes I believe so.... if he leaves now his 3 month old will not know him... so waiting is the only way he can form a bond..... Plus he will have to pay child support for 18-21 years.... He might as well stay to control how it’s being spent..... I know sex in a marriage is important, but is it worth giving up half of everything you worked for ? Always got your mind on the money. You're like Gordon Gekko. Greed is good."I live by the golden rule.... He who has the gold makes the rules..... | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? Yes I believe so.... if he leaves now his 3 month old will not know him... so waiting is the only way he can form a bond..... Plus he will have to pay child support for 18-21 years.... He might as well stay to control how it’s being spent..... I know sex in a marriage is important, but is it worth giving up half of everything you worked for ? Always got your mind on the money. You're like Gordon Gekko. Greed is good.
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more " You'd be better off using a regular dating app mate. Plenty of loose women on those, looking for casual and often better looking than those on a swingers site | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? He might not get the choice, the decision to stay together or divorce doesn't rest solely with him." Maybe I’m wrong and please forgive me... If I read something wrong in the original post.... But his wife has tried swinging and caught him being dishonest twice.... She is still with him , so in my humble opinion she loves him with all her heart..... All he has to do to make her happy is be a great husband and father ...... It’s not compulsory to swing when you get married.... He has two choices.... stay and be good Or Leave and give up half his net worth to become a swinging God.... I know which one is cheaper | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? Yes I believe so.... if he leaves now his 3 month old will not know him... so waiting is the only way he can form a bond..... Plus he will have to pay child support for 18-21 years.... He might as well stay to control how it’s being spent..... I know sex in a marriage is important, but is it worth giving up half of everything you worked for ? Always got your mind on the money. You're like Gordon Gekko. Greed is good.
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more You'd be better off using a regular dating app mate. Plenty of loose women on those, looking for casual and often better looking than those on a swingers site " Yes but you also have to contend with sugar babies , sex workers and the African scammers..... Dating apps are not better than Fab.... | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? Yes I believe so.... if he leaves now his 3 month old will not know him... so waiting is the only way he can form a bond..... Plus he will have to pay child support for 18-21 years.... He might as well stay to control how it’s being spent..... I know sex in a marriage is important, but is it worth giving up half of everything you worked for ? Always got your mind on the money. You're like Gordon Gekko. Greed is good.
I live by the golden rule....
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"This is why I stay single . I hurt no one with my liking for mutiple partners .. sometimes you have to just do the right thing sounds to me you want you cake and you don't want anyone else to eat it "I bet you've been a clingy Ex Bunny Boiler. | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more You'd be better off using a regular dating app mate. Plenty of loose women on those, looking for casual and often better looking than those on a swingers site Yes but you also have to contend with sugar babies , sex workers and the African scammers..... Dating apps are not better than Fab...." I've found what you've described on here, how odd ? | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? He might not get the choice, the decision to stay together or divorce doesn't rest solely with him. Maybe I’m wrong and please forgive me... If I read something wrong in the original post.... But his wife has tried swinging and caught him being dishonest twice.... She is still with him , so in my humble opinion she loves him with all her heart..... All he has to do to make her happy is be a great husband and father ...... It’s not compulsory to swing when you get married.... He has two choices.... stay and be good Or Leave and give up half his net worth to become a swinging God.... I know which one is cheaper " It's true he has but one decision to make, stay or go. On the face of it she loves him with all her heart but since we haven't heard her side of the story we can't say that for sure what if she's hanging on for financial reasons or because he's a great dad or she doesn't want to be on her own with a child? Ultimately though the decision does not rest with him alone unless he decides to leave, she won't get much input in that. If he decides to stay she might look at him and think "you know what, its not worth the heartache". | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more " Nah. m8. Just set up a "new" fab profile. Free, cheap, sorted, easy. Job sorted. | |||
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"I love my partner so much but can't stop myself on here I feel myself with her I feel I have to hide who I truly am " Well Then please. Let your wife Go. So she can get a chance to meet a man that is happy and content with just her. And it's not a great example for your kids. We all have wants,but it is different to our needs. You are basically selfish. She tried but it's not for her. So be respectful to her and yourself and go your separate ways.not going be easy. But no point staying as you both end up resenting one another and she lost thrust in you. | |||
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"This is why I stay single . I hurt no one with my liking for mutiple partners .. sometimes you have to just do the right thing sounds to me you want you cake and you don't want anyone else to eat it
I bet you've been a clingy Ex Bunny Boiler."Behave, you're becoming 1 of my new favourite posters. The guys who last on the forum fly straight and are low key, quiet. But the guys who want it all the all, chicas, champagne, flash.... they don't last. | |||
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"Diagnosed as a sex addict and medicated for it? Is that on the NHS? ??????" This made my evening. Thank you. As it reads I'd really hate to meet the op. I think if you disrespect the person you love then what do the rest of us get. Respect and trust is key to me in swinging. | |||
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"Oh and does your wife know you are looking for bi men ? "Woah now that I didn't know. That is a big game changer. Is it sex with guys you crave more. Hence the MFM 3sum. As himself asked above. Does your wife know that you are bi??. | |||
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ??" Yes! Relationships take two, she is bringing up your kids, have you ever booked a babysitter, wined and dined her, treated her like the queen she felt she was back in the day... no you just hooked up with others on here..it's a lonely world.. you need to focus on you life and who you want in it before introducing anyone else. | |||
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"I kinda had some sympathy for the OP until He pulled the sex addict card. My ex used that as an excuse for his infidelities. It’s utter bollox. Grow a pair. Make a decision and stop treating everyone else as secondary to your sexual needs. V x " If you can treat someone who gave you 2 children and who you’re supposed to love and respect more than anyone else like that, it speaks volumes about you as a person. I think you’re selfish and maybe if you put as much effort into fixing things with your wife as you seem to put into cheating on her, I doubt you’d be feeling as guilty as you do right now and things might be a lot different | |||
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"I love my partner so much but can't stop myself on here I feel myself with her I feel I have to hide who I truly am " Think you've probably hit the nail on the head as it were. You have to sit down with her and get exactly that message across. Hard to achieve I know and counselling may well be worth looking at. You have to get to the point where you can actually express how you feel to each other and believe the other has listened and considered. If you run before then you'll always wonder if you could have saved it. Get to that point together before deciding between you if you can make it work to the satisfaction of both. In the meantime delete your profile here and give yourselves a chance to sort it out. This isn't real life, your wife & family are. | |||
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"Do the decent thing and walk away from your marriage. To stay in the marriage would only cause misery for both you and your wife and a unhappy marriage is not the best place to bring up a child. "
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"I think this is a fake post to spice up his otherwise very boring life. Bet he’s sat with his dick in his hands looking at all the profiles on here in his one bedroom flat wishing he had had at least one blow job in the last 12 months.
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" 'I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking'. ^^^^ From your OP. You were pushed out completely - Karmas a bitch. Maybe she felt like that when you left her looking after your kids, thinking you were one place and you off fucking someone else. Just a thought " I noticed this too. PUSHED his wife into a 3sum (fucking despicable) and got totally cucked and so saw his arse. That sounds like a total hate fuck. Almost as if she does have a sex drive, but maybe the OPs constant infidelities turn her stomach and she can't stand to be touched by a lying piece of shit.. | |||
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"Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... That is terrible advice." I agree. Divorce is as expensive as you make it. You can do it all online and pay for it yourself. No need for solicitors. Child maintenance is only what you should pay anyway. And if you don't want to support your kids then you are the worst kind of bastard who deserves every kind of badness in your life. The OP is not a man, he is a snivelling child in an adults body. | |||
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"If fucking strangers is more important to you than your relationship then you shouldn't be in it. It's not fair on your partner I know it's not fair on her and in my defense she hasn't been an angel there has been cheating on both sides and although I've done it many more times she did it with people we know and regualy see so me shagging a few strangers is definitely the lesser evil but I'm sure you will all take her side apart from the girl I was gonna a leave her for I've not been looking for a replacement partner just purely sexual" Would you have felt better if your wife had been trawling the internet and cheated with complete strangers? Your woe me attitude is laughable. You're on the forum talking about the guilt you feel over the situation, but your profile status tells a completely different story. You're trying to turn your wife into something she isn't just to meet your own selfish needs. We really pity her and all she has to put up with from you. You say she's the love of your life yet you treat her appallingly. It shouldn't be you considering leaving, it should be her and no doubt after she does you'll be on here moaning about it. | |||
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" I agree. Divorce is as expensive as you make it. You can do it all online and pay for it yourself. No need for solicitors. Child maintenance is only what you should pay anyway. And if you don't want to support your kids then you are the worst kind of bastard who deserves every kind of badness in your life. The OP is not a man, he is a snivelling child in an adults body." My ex and I had little kids when we separated. We had a "legal separation" agreement in place after about 12 months. That suited us both - it allowed us to live our separate lives with joint responsibility for the children. It was another 10 years or so before we got round to the paperwork for a divorce. By then it was just a technicality, really. The children were all 16 years or older by then so it was a very simple and inexpensive undertaking. My advice is not to worry too much about bits of legal paper and just focus on finding an arrangement that works for you both and, most importantly, any children while they are still children. | |||
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"Calm down guys, OP would probably agree he has made mistakes but calling him names isn’t gonna help. I’m sure he is feeling pretty low and probably came on here for a bit of support (possibly naive in the extreme), you can be honest and give an opinion without kicking a guy while he is down. I don’t know anyone who hasn’t made mistakes and I’d be pretty surprised if a forum on a swinging site contained any different " Totally off topic but what a rather lovely pair of dimples
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more " Apparently you have no conscience and now you have come out in the open you probably have no chance on here either. | |||
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"I know everything your saying is right I know how much of a cunt I've been but I need intimacy in my life and when you have to beg your partner of 6years to put your dick in her mouth when every meet I've ever has that's done in first 5mins " Intimacy? Not sure there's anything particularly intimate about sticking your cock in a woman's mouth within 5 minutes of meeting her! Your poor wife is probably missing intimacy too, intimacy of the emotional variety which usually leads to a fulfilling sex life with a long term partner. | |||
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ?? Do you mean swinging by all sexual activities? My partner is more important to me than swinging so if he wanted to stop, I'd be happy to because I truly love him. no not swinging I mean for play is non existent I get a fair few quickies but that's it am I so wrong for needing more ??" NEED and WANT are very different things OP. I'm single and enjoy the variety of fab. Were I in love with someone (really in love not a selfish love) and they had no interest I'd delete my profile turn my back on it and never come here again. If you have been able to come on here and cheat and lie then your love is more for you than your partner or family. You like having them but not enough to be honest or strong. You already have your answer I fear. Your relationship will never be the same again. If you want it to continue grow and evolve you need to put your whole heart and head into making yourself worthy of the love you are being given. | |||
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"Wow what a catch you are! You have a wife & children with your youngest being 3 months old yet here you are on fab looking for quick fucks to satisfy your own ego! Do your wife a favour and bugger off and leave her, let her find someone who deserves her love. It sounds to me like you’ve pushed her into having sex with another man, cheated and lied repeatedly - poor woman, nothing more to say really! " She cheated too | |||
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"Wow what a catch you are! You have a wife & children with your youngest being 3 months old yet here you are on fab looking for quick fucks to satisfy your own ego! Do your wife a favour and bugger off and leave her, let her find someone who deserves her love. It sounds to me like you’ve pushed her into having sex with another man, cheated and lied repeatedly - poor woman, nothing more to say really! She cheated too "Strange how that only happened when OP got the replies he did. Think he was looking for tips on how to get his wife to join or accept his 'needs' to swing/CHEAT and how unreasonable SHE was. I think he thought having fellow swingers and posting on fab, he'd get support for his behaviour. For me, the replies on here show what swinging is all about, whether as a couple or single - honesty, trust and respect (all lacking with the OP and as a PP pointed out, doesn't make him a good swinger either). I also think that many in the vanilla world would be surprised, given we have sex with strangers, at the honesty and respect shown to partners and play partners. | |||
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"Wow what a catch you are! You have a wife & children with your youngest being 3 months old yet here you are on fab looking for quick fucks to satisfy your own ego! Do your wife a favour and bugger off and leave her, let her find someone who deserves her love. It sounds to me like you’ve pushed her into having sex with another man, cheated and lied repeatedly - poor woman, nothing more to say really! She cheated too "Is it really cheating if you’ve talked your missus into it? He cheated before they did this as a couple, he was there! Cheating tends to mean the other party knew nothing of it. To me she just cuckholded him. He should do her a favour & leave & she may find someone who wants her for her. Not for who he wants her to be. | |||
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"Stay with the wife. Free babysitting service while you go out and fuck other people. Cheaper than divorce, you still get to see the kids and fuck around too. Make a couples profile with the hot woman you met- you can use her as bait to get tons more meets. You tried to make the wife swing and she wouldn't so she missed her chance. She showed you up by fucking that guy in the MFM. That's no way for a good wife to behave. You still have many years of blow jobs ahead of you. Why waste your time on a woman who won't put your dick in her mouth. Say you're working late so you can fuck behind her back. She'll be grateful you're working so hard for her and the kids, and have your food ready when you get home after your hard fucking sessions. " I'm detecting a smidgen of sarcasm in your post. I'm not sure you are being entirely forthcoming.. | |||
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"Stay with the wife. Free babysitting service while you go out and fuck other people. Cheaper than divorce, you still get to see the kids and fuck around too. Make a couples profile with the hot woman you met- you can use her as bait to get tons more meets. You tried to make the wife swing and she wouldn't so she missed her chance. She showed you up by fucking that guy in the MFM. That's no way for a good wife to behave. You still have many years of blow jobs ahead of you. Why waste your time on a woman who won't put your dick in her mouth. Say you're working late so you can fuck behind her back. She'll be grateful you're working so hard for her and the kids, and have your food ready when you get home after your hard fucking sessions. I'm detecting a smidgen of sarcasm in your post. I'm not sure you are being entirely forthcoming.. "I'm pretty sure it was the answer the OP was hoping for. | |||
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"If my man suddenly went off sex, yes I would miss it but I would still be with him because I love him. If I felt that there was an overwhelming need for sex that I wasn’t getting I’d discuss the possibility of me meeting on my own and if he didn’t agree I’d either need to leave the relationship or stay with him and do without. It’s all about respect. You seem to have none for your partner. Cheating is the easy selfish way out. If you’re already considering someone else as a better partner you should man up and leave your partner because if you loved her the way you should then you wouldn’t of considered this. Mrs " | |||
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"I live by the golden rule.... He who has the gold makes the rules..... Sounds like something Trump would say and he loves gold. "I believe he’s quoting Jafar from “Aladdin”
OP, I believe you’re wrestling with a few problems, none of which you can be honest with yourself about.
I don’t think anyone on here can help you until you yourself confront those truths, accept them as the truth, then discuss any solution with your partner.
It sounds like a lot of damage has already been done & now it’s a case of some unhappy “damage limitation”. It might be messy but if you don’t confront those truths head on then the damage will only be worse further down the line.
The only person who can resolve your situation is YOU with the input of your partner. Not anyone on Fab. We’re not the ones who have to live with the consequences.
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"You need communicate open and honestly with your partner. If you both agree what you have is worth saving then consider couples counselling. This has got to be a two way street. It's not all about what you want, which to be honest is the way your post reads. For me once the trust has gone it's done for me. Your partner may feel different. Good luck. I think your completely right once the trust is gone that's basically it but I just don't want to lose my family over my sexual needs so I do whatever it takes to keep us ticking on but can't help but feel theres a more compatible lady out there and it's these bad thoughts that make me week out something better " Then you don't love her enough, period, leave her and let her find someone who does. | |||
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"Hi everyone so I'm hear begging for advice mainly from women but more than happy for advice from. Anyone that could help I've been with my partner 6 years have two beautiful children together my partner is beautiful and at the beginning the sex was insane Then a few years ago I discovered FAB and being the selfish person I am went behind my partners back when she didn't seem at all interested in swinging and I got hooked on the lifestyle Fast forward a year and I meet the girl of my dreams on here who I attempted to leave my partner for but due to my youngest child only being 3 months old I chose to do the right thing and try make things work but not before telling my partner all about Fab So fast forward another year I finally get her to have a meet supposed to be a mfm threesome but I was pushed out completely she basically climbed on top of him made him cum then basically said I've done it now stop asking fast forward a little bit more and I'm caught on here again all I want is to be able to have fun with my long term partner who is kinky as hell and at the beginning of our Fab jorney together seemed very interested and loved the attention I understand trust is key in swinging but can anyone honestly say they think she seems like she may do it one day or am I just stuck in a relationship where I'm always gonna feel I have to have more Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? Yes I believe so.... if he leaves now his 3 month old will not know him... so waiting is the only way he can form a bond..... Plus he will have to pay child support for 18-21 years.... He might as well stay to control how it’s being spent..... I know sex in a marriage is important, but is it worth giving up half of everything you worked for ? Always got your mind on the money. You're like Gordon Gekko. Greed is good.
I live by the golden rule....
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ?? Do you mean swinging by all sexual activities? My partner is more important to me than swinging so if he wanted to stop, I'd be happy to because I truly love him. no not swinging I mean for play is non existent I get a fair few quickies but that's it am I so wrong for needing more ?? Can you blame her? You've cheated on her, lied to her, gone behind her back and probably devistated her, crushing her esteem in the process. You made her promises and then you did it again!! That is not what you do to someone you love, especially as much as you say you do. Why do you think she doesn't want to be intimate as she used to be with you?)
Do her a favour and leave, then you will be free to fulfil your needs I know everything your saying is right I know how much of a cunt I've been but I need intimacy in my life and when you have to beg your partner of 6years to put your dick in her mouth when every meet I've ever has that's done in first 5mins "What about what she wants? 
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"Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? Yes I believe so.... if he leaves now his 3 month old will not know him... so waiting is the only way he can form a bond..... Plus he will have to pay child support for 18-21 years.... He might as well stay to control how it’s being spent..... I know sex in a marriage is important, but is it worth giving up half of everything you worked for ? Always got your mind on the money. You're like Gordon Gekko. Greed is good.
I live by the golden rule....
He who has the gold makes the rules.....
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I’m just a capitalist..... I think about profit first and foremost above anything else....."And yet utterly clueless when it comes to financial advise about divorce. | |||
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"Stay with the wife. Free babysitting service while you go out and fuck other people. Cheaper than divorce, you still get to see the kids and fuck around too. Make a couples profile with the hot woman you met- you can use her as bait to get tons more meets. You tried to make the wife swing and she wouldn't so she missed her chance. She showed you up by fucking that guy in the MFM. That's no way for a good wife to behave. You still have many years of blow jobs ahead of you. Why waste your time on a woman who won't put your dick in her mouth. Say you're working late so you can fuck behind her back. She'll be grateful you're working so hard for her and the kids, and have your food ready when you get home after your hard fucking sessions. I'm detecting a smidgen of sarcasm in your post. I'm not sure you are being entirely forthcoming..
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"Family is all I care about but could you honestly say you could give up nearly all sexual activities with a partner and stay happy n faithful ?? Do you mean swinging by all sexual activities? My partner is more important to me than swinging so if he wanted to stop, I'd be happy to because I truly love him. " I feel exactly the same. I'd still be friends with those I'd met, but the sexual side would be cut dead. | |||
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"Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? Yes I believe so.... if he leaves now his 3 month old will not know him... so waiting is the only way he can form a bond..... Plus he will have to pay child support for 18-21 years.... He might as well stay to control how it’s being spent..... I know sex in a marriage is important, but is it worth giving up half of everything you worked for ? Always got your mind on the money. You're like Gordon Gekko. Greed is good.
I live by the golden rule....
He who has the gold makes the rules.....
Sounds like something Trump would say and he loves gold.
I’m just a capitalist..... I think about profit first and foremost above anything else.....
And yet utterly clueless when it comes to financial advise about divorce."Ok I’ll bite...... I hope you know divorce laws are different in the United States..... I am just giving my honest opinion, if it wrong... please forgive give me.... I hope this serves as my pound of flesh you were after.... | |||
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"Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? Yes I believe so.... if he leaves now his 3 month old will not know him... so waiting is the only way he can form a bond..... Plus he will have to pay child support for 18-21 years.... He might as well stay to control how it’s being spent..... I know sex in a marriage is important, but is it worth giving up half of everything you worked for ? Always got your mind on the money. You're like Gordon Gekko. Greed is good.
I live by the golden rule....
He who has the gold makes the rules.....
Sounds like something Trump would say and he loves gold.
I’m just a capitalist..... I think about profit first and foremost above anything else.....
And yet utterly clueless when it comes to financial advise about divorce.
Ok I’ll bite......
I hope you know divorce laws are different in the United States.....
I am just giving my honest opinion, if it wrong... please forgive give me....
I hope this serves as my pound of flesh you were after...."By a lucky coincidence I was US resident for an extended period and still work there on a regular basis. So if you wish to discuss US divorces further then sure OK. OP is in the UK though. Either way there are no divorce laws where it is cheaper to keep someone (as you put it) for 18 years and then go your separate ways. Divorce always gets more expensive the longer you have been married and the older you are when you get divorced. This is aside to the fact you should never take a decision to divorce based on money. | |||
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"Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? Yes I believe so.... if he leaves now his 3 month old will not know him... so waiting is the only way he can form a bond..... Plus he will have to pay child support for 18-21 years.... He might as well stay to control how it’s being spent..... I know sex in a marriage is important, but is it worth giving up half of everything you worked for ? Always got your mind on the money. You're like Gordon Gekko. Greed is good.
I live by the golden rule....
He who has the gold makes the rules.....
Sounds like something Trump would say and he loves gold.
I’m just a capitalist..... I think about profit first and foremost above anything else.....
And yet utterly clueless when it comes to financial advise about divorce.
Ok I’ll bite......
I hope you know divorce laws are different in the United States.....
I am just giving my honest opinion, if it wrong... please forgive give me....
I hope this serves as my pound of flesh you were after....
By a lucky coincidence I was US resident for an extended period and still work there on a regular basis. So if you wish to discuss US divorces further then sure OK.
OP is in the UK though.
Either way there are no divorce laws where it is cheaper to keep someone (as you put it) for 18 years and then go your separate ways. Divorce always gets more expensive the longer you have been married and the older you are when you get divorced.
This is aside to the fact you should never take a decision to divorce based on money. "Let’s just agree to disagree...... I know 2 friends that are divorced.... they are living ok.... but their ex wives are living better than them.... if you ask them if the divorce was worth it ... they would say no | |||
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"Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? Yes I believe so.... if he leaves now his 3 month old will not know him... so waiting is the only way he can form a bond..... Plus he will have to pay child support for 18-21 years.... He might as well stay to control how it’s being spent..... I know sex in a marriage is important, but is it worth giving up half of everything you worked for ? Always got your mind on the money. You're like Gordon Gekko. Greed is good.
I live by the golden rule....
He who has the gold makes the rules.....
Sounds like something Trump would say and he loves gold.
I’m just a capitalist..... I think about profit first and foremost above anything else.....
And yet utterly clueless when it comes to financial advise about divorce.
Ok I’ll bite......
I hope you know divorce laws are different in the United States.....
I am just giving my honest opinion, if it wrong... please forgive give me....
I hope this serves as my pound of flesh you were after....
By a lucky coincidence I was US resident for an extended period and still work there on a regular basis. So if you wish to discuss US divorces further then sure OK.
OP is in the UK though.
Either way there are no divorce laws where it is cheaper to keep someone (as you put it) for 18 years and then go your separate ways. Divorce always gets more expensive the longer you have been married and the older you are when you get divorced.
This is aside to the fact you should never take a decision to divorce based on money.
Let’s just agree to disagree......
I know 2 friends that are divorced.... they are living ok.... but their ex wives are living better than them.... if you ask them if the divorce was worth it ... they would say no"Although if the OPs wife ever finds this thread I suspect divorce may not be optional for him. | |||
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"Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? Yes I believe so.... if he leaves now his 3 month old will not know him... so waiting is the only way he can form a bond..... Plus he will have to pay child support for 18-21 years.... He might as well stay to control how it’s being spent..... I know sex in a marriage is important, but is it worth giving up half of everything you worked for ? Always got your mind on the money. You're like Gordon Gekko. Greed is good.
I live by the golden rule....
He who has the gold makes the rules.....
Sounds like something Trump would say and he loves gold.
I’m just a capitalist..... I think about profit first and foremost above anything else.....
And yet utterly clueless when it comes to financial advise about divorce.
Ok I’ll bite......
I hope you know divorce laws are different in the United States.....
I am just giving my honest opinion, if it wrong... please forgive give me....
I hope this serves as my pound of flesh you were after....
By a lucky coincidence I was US resident for an extended period and still work there on a regular basis. So if you wish to discuss US divorces further then sure OK.
OP is in the UK though.
Either way there are no divorce laws where it is cheaper to keep someone (as you put it) for 18 years and then go your separate ways. Divorce always gets more expensive the longer you have been married and the older you are when you get divorced.
This is aside to the fact you should never take a decision to divorce based on money.
Let’s just agree to disagree......
I know 2 friends that are divorced.... they are living ok.... but their ex wives are living better than them.... if you ask them if the divorce was worth it ... they would say no
Although if the OPs wife ever finds this thread I suspect divorce may not be optional for him. "lol . I cant believe someone would ask a bunch of random Strangers for advice about his marriage and the future of his children. I for one wouldn't ask anyone on here for advice on my personal life. Not sure id ask anyone on here for advice about anything unless it was about swinging,then id think twice about it | |||
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"Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? Yes I believe so.... if he leaves now his 3 month old will not know him... so waiting is the only way he can form a bond..... Plus he will have to pay child support for 18-21 years.... He might as well stay to control how it’s being spent..... I know sex in a marriage is important, but is it worth giving up half of everything you worked for ? Always got your mind on the money. You're like Gordon Gekko. Greed is good.
I live by the golden rule....
He who has the gold makes the rules.....
Sounds like something Trump would say and he loves gold.
I’m just a capitalist..... I think about profit first and foremost above anything else.....
And yet utterly clueless when it comes to financial advise about divorce.
Ok I’ll bite......
I hope you know divorce laws are different in the United States.....
I am just giving my honest opinion, if it wrong... please forgive give me....
I hope this serves as my pound of flesh you were after....
By a lucky coincidence I was US resident for an extended period and still work there on a regular basis. So if you wish to discuss US divorces further then sure OK.
OP is in the UK though.
Either way there are no divorce laws where it is cheaper to keep someone (as you put it) for 18 years and then go your separate ways. Divorce always gets more expensive the longer you have been married and the older you are when you get divorced.
This is aside to the fact you should never take a decision to divorce based on money.
Let’s just agree to disagree......
I know 2 friends that are divorced.... they are living ok.... but their ex wives are living better than them.... if you ask them if the divorce was worth it ... they would say no
Although if the OPs wife ever finds this thread I suspect divorce may not be optional for him. "I have been divorced for 6 years now. I had to put myself in a LOT of debt as part of it. However by managing my finances I am better off every month, even after hold maintenance. My ex isn't doing as well, despite remarrying (2nd income) and until recently was living the rural 3 bed semi, 2 new car dream. If you can get your shit together you can make divorce work for both parents.. | |||
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"Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... A logical approach from a financial perspective , but is it really worth 18 years of misery ? Yes I believe so.... if he leaves now his 3 month old will not know him... so waiting is the only way he can form a bond..... Plus he will have to pay child support for 18-21 years.... He might as well stay to control how it’s being spent..... I know sex in a marriage is important, but is it worth giving up half of everything you worked for ? Always got your mind on the money. You're like Gordon Gekko. Greed is good.
I live by the golden rule....
He who has the gold makes the rules.....
Sounds like something Trump would say and he loves gold.
I’m just a capitalist..... I think about profit first and foremost above anything else.....
And yet utterly clueless when it comes to financial advise about divorce.
Ok I’ll bite......
I hope you know divorce laws are different in the United States.....
I am just giving my honest opinion, if it wrong... please forgive give me....
I hope this serves as my pound of flesh you were after....
By a lucky coincidence I was US resident for an extended period and still work there on a regular basis. So if you wish to discuss US divorces further then sure OK.
OP is in the UK though.
Either way there are no divorce laws where it is cheaper to keep someone (as you put it) for 18 years and then go your separate ways. Divorce always gets more expensive the longer you have been married and the older you are when you get divorced.
This is aside to the fact you should never take a decision to divorce based on money.
Let’s just agree to disagree......
I know 2 friends that are divorced.... they are living ok.... but their ex wives are living better than them.... if you ask them if the divorce was worth it ... they would say no
Although if the OPs wife ever finds this thread I suspect divorce may not be optional for him.
I have been divorced for 6 years now. I had to put myself in a LOT of debt as part of it. However by managing my finances I am better off every month, even after hold maintenance. My ex isn't doing as well, despite remarrying (2nd income) and until recently was living the rural 3 bed semi, 2 new car dream.
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"Op she doesn't want to swing get the message ,if she's that important to you then stop being a Pratt and rebuild the love if not let her go it's not just about the swinging mate I she's just not willing to out any effort in ever anymore" Honestly if the man I loved told me he had been seeing someone else and also swinging when our child was 3months old ( so you were cheating all through her pregnancy ) I wouldn't want his dick or his lying mouth anywhere near me either. I'd say she is just tolerating you whilst the kids are small for the modicum of security you provide for the children. It's awful for everyone involved. | |||
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"Op she doesn't want to swing get the message ,if she's that important to you then stop being a Pratt and rebuild the love if not let her go it's not just about the swinging mate I she's just not willing to out any effort in ever anymore" why should she you decided she wasn't enough u were thinking of leaving her the onus is on you to persuade her you want things to go back the way they were in the beginning,look at it from her perspective ,her man went elsewhere for sex ,nearly left her for another woman,nagged her into swinging then went behind her back and started seeing other women again how the hell is she supposed to feel,if it was me and a woman I loved had done that to me I'd have booted them out the door with their stuff in bin liners | |||
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"Op she doesn't want to swing get the message ,if she's that important to you then stop being a Pratt and rebuild the love if not let her go it's not just about the swinging mate I she's just not willing to out any effort in ever anymore Honestly if the man I loved told me he had been seeing someone else and also swinging when our child was 3months old ( so you were cheating all through her pregnancy ) I wouldn't want his dick or his lying mouth anywhere near me either. I'd say she is just tolerating you whilst the kids are small for the modicum of security you provide for the children. It's awful for everyone involved." | |||
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"Op she doesn't want to swing get the message ,if she's that important to you then stop being a Pratt and rebuild the love if not let her go it's not just about the swinging mate I she's just not willing to out any effort in ever anymore" And this surprises you? V x | |||
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"Op she doesn't want to swing get the message ,if she's that important to you then stop being a Pratt and rebuild the love if not let her go it's not just about the swinging mate I she's just not willing to out any effort in ever anymore Honestly if the man I loved told me he had been seeing someone else and also swinging when our child was 3months old ( so you were cheating all through her pregnancy ) I wouldn't want his dick or his lying mouth anywhere near me either. I'd say she is just tolerating you whilst the kids are small for the modicum of security you provide for the children. It's awful for everyone involved." I wish there was a like button
It's all about you OP. Every post is a Ohhhh poor me. I doubt the have even thought how your selfish actions and behaviour have affected your wife. You're a mysogynistic narcissist. Or a troll, like my hubby thinks. | |||
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"Op she doesn't want to swing get the message ,if she's that important to you then stop being a Pratt and rebuild the love if not let her go it's not just about the swinging mate I she's just not willing to out any effort in ever anymore And this surprises you? V x " No but how do you put right all the wrong I've done | |||
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" it's not just about the swinging mate I she's just not willing to out any effort in ever anymore" Sounds like you’re not prepared to put any effort into her without an expectation of a “reward” afterwards, what a turn off! If you’re not happy in your relationship (your original post strongly suggests you’re not) and there have been “indiscretions” on both sides as you say, what’s really keeping you together? If she’s not into the life style she’s not, and never will be. Do the honourable thing and make a sacrifice, it’s either her and YOUR children, or the lifestyle. Family is a precious gift that you are given, you may never get the chance again. Fast forward to your 60s, 70s, 80s, alone, nobody finds you attractive anymore and your family don’t want to know because when little Jimmy wanted you to see him play football/school concert/teach him to ride a bike, you were off swinging. Whatever choice you make, these are your children, and they will always want their Daddy. If you decide it’s not working between you and your wife, and go your separate ways, you need to remain part of their lives at the very least. By the sounds of it neither of you are happy, and speaking from experience there is no more crushing feeling than being cheated on, apart from finding out after forgiving your partner (which she seems to have done) that they have repeated the trick. Get a grip, and make your decision. Any decision is better than dragging this on and on, but as you’re still on here and your status suggests, you won’t change. | |||
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"Op she doesn't want to swing get the message ,if she's that important to you then stop being a Pratt and rebuild the love if not let her go it's not just about the swinging mate I she's just not willing to out any effort in ever anymore And this surprises you? V x No but how do you put right all the wrong I've done " Oh good grief. You don’t know??? V x | |||
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"Divorce and child support are very expensive.... my advice is .... it’s cheaper to keep her... Bite the bullet for 18 years... then go your separate ways.... That is terrible advice. I agree. Divorce is as expensive as you make it. You can do it all online and pay for it yourself. No need for solicitors. Child maintenance is only what you should pay anyway. And if you don't want to support your kids then you are the worst kind of bastard who deserves every kind of badness in your life. The OP is not a man, he is a snivelling child in an adults body." Mine cost next to nothing as I did it all myself online just paid the court costs... Not sure what planet everyone’s on but: Swinging = like minded folk to add diversity to a sex life or experience new things and push boundaries safely Not: hooking up with everyone that will suck your cock in 5 mins of meeting... The majority of folk on here seem to forget that. Just saying... | |||
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