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By *ercury40 OP Man
over a year ago
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So i have a lady friend who is a fab member on here. She recently met up with a girl friend (also fab member), and they got a bit d*unk and wanted some fun. The made contact with a guy on here and they all met up and had a good time together.
This was a few days ago, and last night she was with one of her favorite guys, having fun, when TWO condoms fell out of her !!
Now, the guy she had met with her girlfriend was stone cold sober when they played and there is no way in hell he did not know that he had lost two condoms inside her.
She is now having to get herself tested for everything under the sun and is worried sick. Her regular FB thinks this could be malicious and thinks she should involve the police.
Any advice or thoughts please |
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By *tirluvMan
over a year ago
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I have had to be careful in the past on withdrawing I nearly once left a condom behind -if it wasn't for a last second pinch it could easily have happened -especially if youu stay in there a little while after cumming. |
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over a year ago
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"So i have a lady friend who is a fab member on here. She recently met up with a girl friend (also fab member), and they got a bit d*unk and wanted some fun. The made contact with a guy on here and they all met up and had a good time together.
This was a few days ago, and last night she was with one of her favorite guys, having fun, when TWO condoms fell out of her !!
Now, the guy she had met with her girlfriend was stone cold sober when they played and there is no way in hell he did not know that he had lost two condoms inside her.
She is now having to get herself tested for everything under the sun and is worried sick. Her regular FB thinks this could be malicious and thinks she should involve the police.
Any advice or thoughts please" condoms break condoms slide off and wearing a condom doesn't stop you getting skin touch sti's, malicious why? You don't notice it's come off or broken until you pull out and by that time it's too late. |
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By *ercury40 OP Man
over a year ago
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"So i have a lady friend who is a fab member on here. She recently met up with a girl friend (also fab member), and they got a bit d*unk and wanted some fun. The made contact with a guy on here and they all met up and had a good time together.
This was a few days ago, and last night she was with one of her favorite guys, having fun, when TWO condoms fell out of her !!
Now, the guy she had met with her girlfriend was stone cold sober when they played and there is no way in hell he did not know that he had lost two condoms inside her.
She is now having to get herself tested for everything under the sun and is worried sick. Her regular FB thinks this could be malicious and thinks she should involve the police.
Any advice or thoughts pleasecondoms break condoms slide off and wearing a condom doesn't stop you getting skin touch sti's, malicious why? You don't notice it's come off or broken until you pull out and by that time it's too late. "
Yes. But the point is he must have known they had come off when he pulled out and he did not say anything to her. She was totally unaware that she had two condoms left inside her. Why did he not say something ? |
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I have two thoughts.
Why didn't he mention it?
How did she not notice? There's usually a "where shall I dispose of it?" moment or you notice the guy removing it although I accept this isn't always the case.
If it was me I would contact the guy and ask him why he didn't tell me. I would hesitate to go to the police because I think it would be difficult to prove his intent or that she wasn't aware. However if it was malicious it might prevent him doing it again. |
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By *ercury40 OP Man
over a year ago
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"I have two thoughts.
Why didn't he mention it?
How did she not notice? There's usually a "where shall I dispose of it?" moment or you notice the guy removing it although I accept this isn't always the case.
If it was me I would contact the guy and ask him why he didn't tell me. I would hesitate to go to the police because I think it would be difficult to prove his intent or that she wasn't aware. However if it was malicious it might prevent him doing it again."
She has contacted him and he says he knows nothing about a second condom. He claims he cant remember if they did it twice. He says he is not a regular player, but if he had a threesome with two girls, he would not forget that in a hurry, and i am sure he would remember fucking her twice. He was stone cold sober. This is the concern here, it can only have got there from him, and he must have known that two condoms are still inside her. If he knew (as he must have) and did not say anything, is this malicious ? |
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"So i have a lady friend who is a fab member on here. She recently met up with a girl friend (also fab member), and they got a bit d*unk and wanted some fun. The made contact with a guy on here and they all met up and had a good time together.
This was a few days ago, and last night she was with one of her favorite guys, having fun, when TWO condoms fell out of her !!
Now, the guy she had met with her girlfriend was stone cold sober when they played and there is no way in hell he did not know that he had lost two condoms inside her.
She is now having to get herself tested for everything under the sun and is worried sick. Her regular FB thinks this could be malicious and thinks she should involve the police.
Any advice or thoughts pleasecondoms break condoms slide off and wearing a condom doesn't stop you getting skin touch sti's, malicious why? You don't notice it's come off or broken until you pull out and by that time it's too late.
Yes. But the point is he must have known they had come off when he pulled out and he did not say anything to her. She was totally unaware that she had two condoms left inside her. Why did he not say something ?" same reason most women don't reply to messages from guys they aren't interested in, either way it's too late after the fact, ok you could say it's bad manners but then you could also say why didn't she notice as he pulled out it wasn't still on, I like a woman to be interested in mine after I pull out especially if I don't cum |
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"I have two thoughts.
Why didn't he mention it?
How did she not notice? There's usually a "where shall I dispose of it?" moment or you notice the guy removing it although I accept this isn't always the case.
If it was me I would contact the guy and ask him why he didn't tell me. I would hesitate to go to the police because I think it would be difficult to prove his intent or that she wasn't aware. However if it was malicious it might prevent him doing it again.
She has contacted him and he says he knows nothing about a second condom. He claims he cant remember if they did it twice. He says he is not a regular player, but if he had a threesome with two girls, he would not forget that in a hurry, and i am sure he would remember fucking her twice. He was stone cold sober. This is the concern here, it can only have got there from him, and he must have known that two condoms are still inside her. If he knew (as he must have) and did not say anything, is this malicious ?"
It's difficult to say. The information you're giving us is second hand, some time after the event. The person who is telling you had been drinking at the time it happened. I'm not saying your friend was in any way responsible for what happened. However from what you have told us it's impossible to say if the guy did what he did with malicious intent. It's possible he was embarrassed or just didn't care. |
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Actually I have further questions. Does your friend know if he ducked her twice?
Did he also have sex with the other woman and did she have the same issue?
I know I said that I wasn't implying that your friend was in any way responsible for what happened but she does actually bear responsibility for ensuring she's able to be aware of what's going on. |
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"Actually I have further questions. Does your friend know if he ducked her twice?
Did he also have sex with the other woman and did she have the same issue?
I know I said that I wasn't implying that your friend was in any way responsible for what happened but she does actually bear responsibility for ensuring she's able to be aware of what's going on." were they in Bath, I try not to duck them ladies are so particular about their hair |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Op tell your friend not to go to the police.....
It’s a he said/ she said situation and with her being d*unk. She was of diminished mental capacity .....
So save her the embarrassment of exposing her sexual proclivities to the police and advise her to be more careful in the future.... |
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"Actually I have further questions. Does your friend know if he ducked her twice?
Did he also have sex with the other woman and did she have the same issue?
I know I said that I wasn't implying that your friend was in any way responsible for what happened but she does actually bear responsibility for ensuring she's able to be aware of what's going on.were they in Bath, I try not to duck them ladies are so particular about their hair "
You're wise to avoid ducking |
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By *ercury40 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Actually I have further questions. Does your friend know if he ducked her twice?
Did he also have sex with the other woman and did she have the same issue?
I know I said that I wasn't implying that your friend was in any way responsible for what happened but she does actually bear responsibility for ensuring she's able to be aware of what's going on."
I think she was a little to d*unk to remember if he fucked her twice. He did have sex with the other girl but she did not have the same problem.
The other problem is that one of the condoms appears to be unused, still neatly rolled up as if it has been taken out of the packet and inserted for some reason. That is what is making her concerned about it being malicious. |
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"So i have a lady friend who is a fab member on here. She recently met up with a girl friend (also fab member), and they got a bit d*unk and wanted some fun. The made contact with a guy on here and they all met up and had a good time together.
This was a few days ago, and last night she was with one of her favorite guys, having fun, when TWO condoms fell out of her !!
Now, the guy she had met with her girlfriend was stone cold sober when they played and there is no way in hell he did not know that he had lost two condoms inside her.
She is now having to get herself tested for everything under the sun and is worried sick. Her regular FB thinks this could be malicious and thinks she should involve the police.
Any advice or thoughts please"
I'm not sure what advice you want, you weren't involved. And nothing in your posts suggest she wants someone garnering opinion on what she should do.
This is someone else's drama, not sure why you are bringing it to the forum? I can't imagine being too impressed if I was one of the parties involved in this |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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Had she had sex with anyone else previous to this and so could be someone else? This happened to me many years ago, but we were both aware, at the time, it had come off, took some fishing to get out Its hard to say if it was malicious and would be hard to prove to the police, so I wouldn't report it. Hope she's ok. |
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By *ercury40 OP Man
over a year ago
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"So i have a lady friend who is a fab member on here. She recently met up with a girl friend (also fab member), and they got a bit d*unk and wanted some fun. The made contact with a guy on here and they all met up and had a good time together.
This was a few days ago, and last night she was with one of her favorite guys, having fun, when TWO condoms fell out of her !!
Now, the guy she had met with her girlfriend was stone cold sober when they played and there is no way in hell he did not know that he had lost two condoms inside her.
She is now having to get herself tested for everything under the sun and is worried sick. Her regular FB thinks this could be malicious and thinks she should involve the police.
Any advice or thoughts please
I'm not sure what advice you want, you weren't involved. And nothing in your posts suggest she wants someone garnering opinion on what she should do.
This is someone else's drama, not sure why you are bringing it to the forum? I can't imagine being too impressed if I was one of the parties involved in this"
She did ask me to post on here and ask advice from fellow fabbers. Obviously she wants to keep her anonymity for now. she asked me as a friend to do this |
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By *ercury40 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Had she had sex with anyone else previous to this and so could be someone else? This happened to me many years ago, but we were both aware, at the time, it had come off, took some fishing to get out Its hard to say if it was malicious and would be hard to prove to the police, so I wouldn't report it. Hope she's ok."
No. it was definitely from this encounter. |
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"Actually I have further questions. Does your friend know if he ducked her twice?
Did he also have sex with the other woman and did she have the same issue?
I know I said that I wasn't implying that your friend was in any way responsible for what happened but she does actually bear responsibility for ensuring she's able to be aware of what's going on.
I think she was a little to d*unk to remember if he fucked her twice. He did have sex with the other girl but she did not have the same problem.
The other problem is that one of the condoms appears to be unused, still neatly rolled up as if it has been taken out of the packet and inserted for some reason. That is what is making her concerned about it being malicious."
Ok. I think she needs to sort out the testing, get back to the guy and ask him to tell her exactly what went on and seriously consider the wisdom of drinking so much that she can't recall if a guy fucked her twice and during that time inserted an unused, still rolled condom inside her.
He might have done things maliciously I don't know, none of us know but what malicious motive is there for inserting an unused condom inside a woman?
I don't disbelieve your friend but it all sounds very odd. All I can suggest is that she makes a note of what she can recall of the incident, waits on the test results and takes action depending on those results. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Actually I have further questions. Does your friend know if he ducked her twice?
Did he also have sex with the other woman and did she have the same issue?
I know I said that I wasn't implying that your friend was in any way responsible for what happened but she does actually bear responsibility for ensuring she's able to be aware of what's going on.
I think she was a little to d*unk to remember if he fucked her twice. He did have sex with the other girl but she did not have the same problem.
The other problem is that one of the condoms appears to be unused, still neatly rolled up as if it has been taken out of the packet and inserted for some reason. That is what is making her concerned about it being malicious."
Hate to say it, it's not wise having sex when you are so d*unk, you don't know what's happening, not good. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Had she had sex with anyone else previous to this and so could be someone else? This happened to me many years ago, but we were both aware, at the time, it had come off, took some fishing to get out Its hard to say if it was malicious and would be hard to prove to the police, so I wouldn't report it. Hope she's ok.
No. it was definitely from this encounter."
Ok. |
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"So i have a lady friend who is a fab member on here. She recently met up with a girl friend (also fab member), and they got a bit d*unk and wanted some fun. The made contact with a guy on here and they all met up and had a good time together.
This was a few days ago, and last night she was with one of her favorite guys, having fun, when TWO condoms fell out of her !!
Now, the guy she had met with her girlfriend was stone cold sober when they played and there is no way in hell he did not know that he had lost two condoms inside her.
She is now having to get herself tested for everything under the sun and is worried sick. Her regular FB thinks this could be malicious and thinks she should involve the police.
Any advice or thoughts please
I'm not sure what advice you want, you weren't involved. And nothing in your posts suggest she wants someone garnering opinion on what she should do.
This is someone else's drama, not sure why you are bringing it to the forum? I can't imagine being too impressed if I was one of the parties involved in this
She did ask me to post on here and ask advice from fellow fabbers. Obviously she wants to keep her anonymity for now. she asked me as a friend to do this "
So what advice does she want? Other than don't play when you are so pissed you can't remember how many time a bloke shagged you. |
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Lessons learnt the hard way
Don't play pissed.
Don't expect everyone to play by the rules.
Bathe between dates.
If she tests clean, and I hope she does, then consider this a near miss that could have been so much worse.
Malicious ??!?! It's a lot of he said, she said at this point. I doubt if the police would be interested.
No evidence !
Consensual !
He could claim equipment failure ? And what can he say ? I am so sorry, lost a condom, put on another and your fanny ate it, 3rd one worked a charm !
xslutx. Am I the only one totally grossed out by the thought of 'finding' someone else's condom... Or "a few days" later! It's funny 'cos it's not me. |
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"I have two thoughts.
Why didn't he mention it?
How did she not notice? There's usually a "where shall I dispose of it?" moment or you notice the guy removing it although I accept this isn't always the case.
If it was me I would contact the guy and ask him why he didn't tell me. I would hesitate to go to the police because I think it would be difficult to prove his intent or that she wasn't aware. However if it was malicious it might prevent him doing it again.
She has contacted him and he says he knows nothing about a second condom. He claims he cant remember if they did it twice. He says he is not a regular player, but if he had a threesome with two girls, he would not forget that in a hurry, and i am sure he would remember fucking her twice. He was stone cold sober. This is the concern here, it can only have got there from him, and he must have known that two condoms are still inside her. If he knew (as he must have) and did not say anything, is this malicious ?"
So you were there then? |
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By *iReyWoman
over a year ago
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Dont play pissed then, so you've got your wits about you and can remember what's happened. Not shaming anyone who's fallen prey to a bad man / woman whilst d*unk, but in the swinging world playing while pissed up is a very big gamble to take |
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By *am4CamWoman
over a year ago
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Don’t get so sozzled that you can’t remember what happens to you sexually; particularly in an encounter with a stranger. I can’t see any potentially malicious element, foolish yes, malicious no. |
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"Actually I have further questions. Does your friend know if he ducked her twice?
Did he also have sex with the other woman and did she have the same issue?
I know I said that I wasn't implying that your friend was in any way responsible for what happened but she does actually bear responsibility for ensuring she's able to be aware of what's going on.were they in Bath, I try not to duck them ladies are so particular about their hair
You're wise to avoid ducking" ooooo I know God they'd be hours under hair dryer |
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"Actually I have further questions. Does your friend know if he ducked her twice?
Did he also have sex with the other woman and did she have the same issue?
I know I said that I wasn't implying that your friend was in any way responsible for what happened but she does actually bear responsibility for ensuring she's able to be aware of what's going on.were they in Bath, I try not to duck them ladies are so particular about their hair
You're wise to avoid ducking" ooooo I know God they'd be hours under hair dryer |
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The unrolled one - I wonder if he fumbled and dropped the first one, couldn't immediately find it so got another and thought nothing more of it - not realising it then got pushed into her? As for the second one, they do come off sometimes when pulling out and maybe he assumed she'd noticed, or maybe she'd even laughed it off and said don't worry about it - but doesn't remember. She can't remember how many times they had sex, so...
If I were her I'd be feeling very silly right now and questioning my choices re: getting that d*unk and meeting with a new person. |
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"The unrolled one - I wonder if he fumbled and dropped the first one, couldn't immediately find it so got another and thought nothing more of it - not realising it then got pushed into her? As for the second one, they do come off sometimes when pulling out and maybe he assumed she'd noticed, or maybe she'd even laughed it off and said don't worry about it - but doesn't remember. She can't remember how many times they had sex, so...
If I were her I'd be feeling very silly right now and questioning my choices re: getting that d*unk and meeting with a new person. "
Or maybe she's just lying and can't remember what she did. And why are yo so adamant he was Stone cold sober, Reading more carefully, you clearly weren't there so 2 pissed girls tell you he's sober and that's it. |
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I'm still struggling with the 'not knowing she had 2 condoms inside her for several days' let alone any other part of this tale.
1, I'm pretty sure I'd feel something wasn't quite right in there.
2, If I was getting ready to meet someone, I'm be very fussy about my hygiene & wash myself throughly
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"Could two condoms stay in a vagina for several days? Wouldn't they come out when you urinated ?" maybe she didn't stand up for a few days so gravity didn't come into play or maybe they were the strawberry flavoured ones and they stuck to the vagina walls or maybe he did mention that they had come off but she was too inebriated to recall or maybe they were both inebriated
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"Could two condoms stay in a vagina for several days? Wouldn't they come out when you urinated ?"
Ummmm, you DO know that pee comes out a different place? Ladies have 3 holes down there.
OP.
Could it have been malicious? Yeah. Possibly stealthing? Yeah. Could it also be that the guy noticed but decided not to say to avoid awkward conversations and retrieval attempts? Also if the women were both d*unk how could they be certain he was not.
It would be challenging to prove malicious intent.Maybe only have boozy nights with trusted fb's in future but she shouldn't beat her self up about it. Everyone makes mistakes.
It must have been very worrying for your friend, I hope all her tests come back clear x
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"Could two condoms stay in a vagina for several days? Wouldn't they come out when you urinated ?
Ummmm, you DO know that pee comes out a different place? Ladies have 3 holes down there.
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Of course I know urine comes out of the urethra but it passes through the vagina on its way out. |
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"Could two condoms stay in a vagina for several days? Wouldn't they come out when you urinated ?
Ummmm, you DO know that pee comes out a different place? Ladies have 3 holes down there.
Of course I know urine comes out of the urethra but it passes through the vagina on its way out. "
It doesn't. The vagina and uterus are entirely separate from the bladder and urethra. |
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"The vagina and uterus are entirely separate from the bladder and urethra."
Thanks for the anatomy lesson. Now I will have to try and retrieve the two condoms I just pushed up my pussy to see if I could wee them out. |
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"The vagina and uterus are entirely separate from the bladder and urethra.
Thanks for the anatomy lesson. Now I will have to try and retrieve the two condoms I just pushed up my pussy to see if I could wee them out. "
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"Could two condoms stay in a vagina for several days? Wouldn't they come out when you urinated ?
Ummmm, you DO know that pee comes out a different place? Ladies have 3 holes down there.
Of course I know urine comes out of the urethra but it passes through the vagina on its way out. "
Ummmm,past the outer and inner labia lips and clitoris,yes. It doesn't pass up the vaginal walls or reach the cervix. |
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over a year ago
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All sounds a bit fishy to me. Talking of which, didn't she start to smell a bit fishy? I'm assuming condoms stuck up there for 2 days would not make for a happy vagina |
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All sounds like a load of nonsense to me .
If my wife had sex , albeit d*unken sex , and a few days later a couple of condoms popped out , one used and one rolled up , I’d be concerned at her lack of hygiene for a start .
To suggest anything illegal happening is a joke I assume , but just in case , it’s perfectly plausible for a condom to come off as a guy withdraws . Especially if he’s cum , and his dick had gone soft but I have no idea why it would still be there days later ! . |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"All sounds a bit fishy to me. Talking of which, didn't she start to smell a bit fishy? I'm assuming condoms stuck up there for 2 days would not make for a happy vagina "
That's what I was thinking |
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Probably the strangest subject I’ve ever googled but google it I just have! Yes,it happens and yes they can remain high up in the vagina for some time
Nothing to do with poor hygiene as they are to high up to feel when you’re washing. Eventually there will be irritation and discharge.
Moral of the story.....make sure what goes in comes out again intact!
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"Probably the strangest subject I’ve ever googled but google it I just have! Yes,it happens and yes they can remain high up in the vagina for some time
Nothing to do with poor hygiene as they are to high up to feel when you’re washing. Eventually there will be irritation and discharge.
Moral of the story.....make sure what goes in comes out again intact!
Miss V"
So kind of like losing a tampon then? |
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"Could two condoms stay in a vagina for several days? Wouldn't they come out when you urinated ?maybe she didn't stand up for a few days so gravity didn't come into play or maybe they were the strawberry flavoured ones and they stuck to the vagina walls or maybe he did mention that they had come off but she was too inebriated to recall or maybe they were both inebriated " |
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