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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue " But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? " I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages | |||
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"Alot of people have insecurities which we have no control over. Their issue not ours. Very very hot pics OP. I bet you get the 'outta my league' comment alot." Thank you very much I do occasionally and I totally cannot understand it. Surely if this is how they feel they should find it as a complement... I know I would | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages " I’m sorry but his loss!! , at least go through with the meet and if it’s not what you want block them after it. | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages " There's do many let downs on here. I wouldn't think that, most definitely he was just another knob lol | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages " That's awful! He sounds like a pig with less manners. | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan " yes but achieving out of your league as a guy here is unlikely if that's what you're alluding to, women on the other hand can by virtue of supply and demand can readily achieve it, it's the nature of the beast, I talk to all people as equals whether I could bed them is obviously another question | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages I’m sorry but his loss!! , at least go through with the meet and if it’s not what you want block them after it." That's sweet. I don't see it his loss though. He clearly wasn't attracted to me . I agree with the social though. Unless someone blatantly lies about the way they look/ their age. It's common courtesy to have a coffee and at least make an excuse to leave early haha. I would have preferred for him to lie and say something had come up and he couldn't make it. I would have been a bit angry then, rather than completely mortified | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages There's do many let downs on here. I wouldn't think that, most definitely he was just another knob lol" I'm sure you're right lovely. I think it was more because I was just feeling my feet on the site, so was a little nervous and a tad gullible, that it affected me the way that it did. | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages " Some guys deserve every bit of karma that comes their way. I think you look amazing and if you were local to be I’d have a permanent seat in that coffee shop just in case you popped in | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages I’m sorry but his loss!! , at least go through with the meet and if it’s not what you want block them after it. That's sweet. I don't see it his loss though. He clearly wasn't attracted to me . I agree with the social though. Unless someone blatantly lies about the way they look/ their age. It's common courtesy to have a coffee and at least make an excuse to leave early haha. I would have preferred for him to lie and say something had come up and he couldn't make it. I would have been a bit angry then, rather than completely mortified " Tbh if I was a lot closer I’d have been messaging you, I think you’re stunning | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages That's awful! He sounds like a pig with less manners. " I would have even be willing to pay for the coffee too | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages That's awful! He sounds like a pig with less manners. I would have even be willing to pay for the coffee too " awwww hey maybe you were too good looking | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages That's awful! He sounds like a pig with less manners. I would have even be willing to pay for the coffee too awwww hey maybe you were too good looking " Very good point | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages That's awful! He sounds like a pig with less manners. I would have even be willing to pay for the coffee too awwww hey maybe you were too good looking Very good point " ooooo I know | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages That's awful! He sounds like a pig with less manners. I would have even be willing to pay for the coffee too awwww hey maybe you were too good looking Very good point ooooo I know " Hahahaha highly unlikely. The women he met were about a size 6 I was a 12/14 | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages That's awful! He sounds like a pig with less manners. I would have even be willing to pay for the coffee too awwww hey maybe you were too good looking Very good point ooooo I know Hahahaha highly unlikely. The women he met were about a size 6 I was a 12/14 " Size 6? Sound like bag of bones lol Size 12/14 any day | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages That's awful! He sounds like a pig with less manners. I would have even be willing to pay for the coffee too awwww hey maybe you were too good looking Very good point ooooo I know Hahahaha highly unlikely. The women he met were about a size 6 I was a 12/14 " who would want a woman size 6 I like meat on my woman's bones | |||
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"If you want to know why some men think people are out of their league, you only have to look at the number of women and couples on here whose profiles demand that you only contact them if you're gorgeous/exceptional/HOTHOTOT etc etc." No pic it's not true | |||
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"If you want to know why some men think people are out of their league, you only have to look at the number of women and couples on here whose profiles demand that you only contact them if you're gorgeous/exceptional/HOTHOTOT etc etc." Good point but how would you know what they're into and who they find hot? Everyone has different preferences? | |||
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"If you want to know why some men think people are out of their league, you only have to look at the number of women and couples on here whose profiles demand that you only contact them if you're gorgeous/exceptional/HOTHOTOT etc etc. Good point but how would you know what they're into and who they find hot? Everyone has different preferences?" That is true. I find Derren Brown hot hot! Others think I'm crazy | |||
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"If you want to know why some men think people are out of their league, you only have to look at the number of women and couples on here whose profiles demand that you only contact them if you're gorgeous/exceptional/HOTHOTOT etc etc. Good point but how would you know what they're into and who they find hot? Everyone has different preferences?" On that sort of profile, the implication is pretty clear. | |||
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"If you want to know why some men think people are out of their league, you only have to look at the number of women and couples on here whose profiles demand that you only contact them if you're gorgeous/exceptional/HOTHOTOT etc etc. Good point but how would you know what they're into and who they find hot? Everyone has different preferences? That is true. I find Derren Brown hot hot! Others think I'm crazy " Great example | |||
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"Completely agree with both the above comments. There is no rhyme or reason to attraction. " I agree to a point but if they have a load of size 10 or less and I'm a size 18 I'm going to think why the hell would he want to meet me | |||
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"Completely agree with both the above comments. There is no rhyme or reason to attraction. I agree to a point but if they have a load of size 10 or less and I'm a size 18 I'm going to think why the hell would he want to meet me " True but a lot of men are into curvy women so maybe that's their preference? | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue " I think that is far more to do with you than them | |||
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"If you want to know why some men think people are out of their league, you only have to look at the number of women and couples on here whose profiles demand that you only contact them if you're gorgeous/exceptional/HOTHOTOT etc etc." Then the only barrier is your belief that you're none of those things. Everything is open to interpretation | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue I think that is far more to do with you than them" I know that | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue I think that is far more to do with you than them I know that" We only live once, no point dragging ourselves down | |||
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"Completely agree with both the above comments. There is no rhyme or reason to attraction. I agree to a point but if they have a load of size 10 or less and I'm a size 18 I'm going to think why the hell would he want to meet me True but a lot of men are into curvy women so maybe that's their preference? " true but there's a big difference between size 10 curves to size 18...whatever | |||
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"If you want to know why some men think people are out of their league, you only have to look at the number of women and couples on here whose profiles demand that you only contact them if you're gorgeous/exceptional/HOTHOTOT etc etc. Then the only barrier is your belief that you're none of those things. Everything is open to interpretation " This | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue I think that is far more to do with you than them I know that We only live once, no point dragging ourselves down " This has actually been a bit of epiphany thread for me. Time to take some risks again, I think | |||
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"I agree. I don’t believe in “leagues”, I think a lot of it has to do with peoples confidence and insecurities if they believe someone is out of their “league”. If I find someone incredibly attractive and it’s reciprocated I’m a happy girl! " Brilliant approach Agree with you 100% | |||
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"Completely agree with both the above comments. There is no rhyme or reason to attraction. I agree to a point but if they have a load of size 10 or less and I'm a size 18 I'm going to think why the hell would he want to meet me True but a lot of men are into curvy women so maybe that's their preference? true but there's a big difference between size 10 curves to size 18...whatever " If you say so - I'm sure a lot of men would beg to differ. We are all turned on by something different and we can't all appeal to everyone | |||
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"Completely agree with both the above comments. There is no rhyme or reason to attraction. I agree to a point but if they have a load of size 10 or less and I'm a size 18 I'm going to think why the hell would he want to meet me True but a lot of men are into curvy women so maybe that's their preference? true but there's a big difference between size 10 curves to size 18...whatever If you say so - I'm sure a lot of men would beg to differ. We are all turned on by something different and we can't all appeal to everyone " | |||
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"I sometimes get the out of my league feeling, mostly because I don’t feel curvy or womanly enough. I have thought that some guys that message me would never come onto me in the real world. " Well I'd ask myself are they genuine? If they seem to be then why would they message if they're not thinking you're hot? | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan " You mean "they wouldn't be interested in me because my physical appearance is not good and theirs is?" Well it happens but its more just down to individual personal attraction though some people like ot label everything. | |||
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"Completely agree with both the above comments. There is no rhyme or reason to attraction. I agree to a point but if they have a load of size 10 or less and I'm a size 18 I'm going to think why the hell would he want to meet me True but a lot of men are into curvy women so maybe that's their preference? true but there's a big difference between size 10 curves to size 18...whatever " Completely agree! I’m a size 8 but would still describe myself as curvy. Looking at the delicious OPs profile I would hesitate to message as I’m not sure I’m the right kind of curvy. It’s a superficial mindfield on here! | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan You mean "they wouldn't be interested in me because my physical appearance is not good and theirs is?" Well it happens but its more just down to individual personal attraction though some people like ot label everything. " Would you feel intimidated just because person messaging you is extremely hot? | |||
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"Completely agree with both the above comments. There is no rhyme or reason to attraction. I agree to a point but if they have a load of size 10 or less and I'm a size 18 I'm going to think why the hell would he want to meet me True but a lot of men are into curvy women so maybe that's their preference? true but there's a big difference between size 10 curves to size 18...whatever Completely agree! I’m a size 8 but would still describe myself as curvy. Looking at the delicious OPs profile I would hesitate to message as I’m not sure I’m the right kind of curvy. It’s a superficial mindfield on here! " Thank you Well I'd say you only live once and if you don't ask you don't get | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan " You're definitely 'IN' my league Dan! Hey stranger lol x | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan You're definitely 'IN' my league Dan! Hey stranger lol x " Hello there, long time! So what you saying? The "league" thing is right? Be fantastic to hear the other side to this x | |||
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"Completely agree with both the above comments. There is no rhyme or reason to attraction. I agree to a point but if they have a load of size 10 or less and I'm a size 18 I'm going to think why the hell would he want to meet me " Well you're still attractive, why wouldn't he? | |||
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"As a society these days, we are obsessed by our looks. You only have to look at all the programmes on tv. Love island, towie, made in chelsea. I personally have never watched them but they are talked about a lot at my work place. I look at the younger generation and how they obsess about how tanned they need to be and how long their lashes are and boob jobs at 18! What the hell is that about? Anyway, my point is I, like most people have insecurities about my body. I'm no spring chicken, and yes, my face is ageing much quicker than my body so If I get a message from a gorgeous adonis with a six pack telling me I'm hot or stunning I ask myself 'how do they know without seeing my face?' Does that mean they are only attracted to my body? Do looks matter? But.... I've also had it from the other side. Guys that I've met have messaged saying that women don't want to meet them because they've met me and I'm smaller in size to them. I do look at some profiles and think they are 'out of my league' but it doesn't stop me from communicating with them. The bottom line is: we all have our insecurities, it's what we do about it... " and as I said earlier you as a woman have the pick of the bunch, you have a sexy body and as a couple you I would assume are only looking for one off meets, I don't Base my choices souly on looks personality is at the top but you can only gauge that in time really, so I suppose it depends how much time you're willing to put into it, I'm in no rush so for me liking the person first and fancying them are the order of my choice | |||
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"When I’m super attracted to a guy it knocks me off my stride and makes me act like a bit of an idiot. " Ha ha ha I'm sure you're not on your own. Most of us do | |||
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" The women he met were about a size 6 I was a 12/14 who would want a woman size 6 I like meat on my woman's bones " As a size 8 that can squeeze into a dress size 6 I can assure you I have plenty of meat on my bones. Almost all ifbb pro bikini athletes are size 6 and they have plenty of meat and muscle on their bones. Guys you do know you can praise one camp and show your preference without being disrespectful to the other. | |||
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" The women he met were about a size 6 I was a 12/14 who would want a woman size 6 I like meat on my woman's bones As a size 8 that can squeeze into a dress size 6 I can assure you I have plenty of meat on my bones. Almost all ifbb pro bikini athletes are size 6 and they have plenty of meat and muscle on their bones. Guys you do know you can praise one camp and show your preference without being disrespectful to the other. " I'm so sorry. I never intended to offend anyone and totally agree size means next to nothing. | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan You're definitely 'IN' my league Dan! Hey stranger lol x " No, I dont believe in leagues. My opinion is that people do feel insecure n lack confidence. However, it does exist in the real world so when we have a social in a norml environment, yes people turn up, see the other n make that decision to stay or leave. Its the polite ones who make the effort to stay even if not for them so respect to them. I work in a swingers club n this is completely opposite. No judging, no being left stranded, no timewasters n theres no issue of leagues. | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages That's awful! He sounds like a pig with less manners. I would have even be willing to pay for the coffee too awwww hey maybe you were too good looking Very good point ooooo I know Hahahaha highly unlikely. The women he met were about a size 6 I was a 12/14 Size 6? Sound like bag of bones lol Size 12/14 any day " Wow just wow! Seems some men still think slagging off one group of ladies works. News in guys - it fools no one!! Body shaming is never ok. | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan You're definitely 'IN' my league Dan! Hey stranger lol x No, I dont believe in leagues. My opinion is that people do feel insecure n lack confidence. However, it does exist in the real world so when we have a social in a norml environment, yes people turn up, see the other n make that decision to stay or leave. Its the polite ones who make the effort to stay even if not for them so respect to them. I work in a swingers club n this is completely opposite. No judging, no being left stranded, no timewasters n theres no issue of leagues." I think it balls down to people being little bit more blunt online then in person | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan You're definitely 'IN' my league Dan! Hey stranger lol x No, I dont believe in leagues. My opinion is that people do feel insecure n lack confidence. However, it does exist in the real world so when we have a social in a norml environment, yes people turn up, see the other n make that decision to stay or leave. Its the polite ones who make the effort to stay even if not for them so respect to them. I work in a swingers club n this is completely opposite. No judging, no being left stranded, no timewasters n theres no issue of leagues. I think it balls down to people being little bit more blunt online then in person " do you boil your balls? | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages That's awful! He sounds like a pig with less manners. I would have even be willing to pay for the coffee too awwww hey maybe you were too good looking Very good point ooooo I know Hahahaha highly unlikely. The women he met were about a size 6 I was a 12/14 Size 6? Sound like bag of bones lol Size 12/14 any day Wow just wow! Seems some men still think slagging off one group of ladies works. News in guys - it fools no one!! Body shaming is never ok. " As I said previously, I have no intentions of insulting anyone. This comment was wrong and I did apologise for it and will apologise again. Sorry if my comment offended anybody. | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan You're definitely 'IN' my league Dan! Hey stranger lol x No, I dont believe in leagues. My opinion is that people do feel insecure n lack confidence. However, it does exist in the real world so when we have a social in a norml environment, yes people turn up, see the other n make that decision to stay or leave. Its the polite ones who make the effort to stay even if not for them so respect to them. I work in a swingers club n this is completely opposite. No judging, no being left stranded, no timewasters n theres no issue of leagues. I think it balls down to people being little bit more blunt online then in person do you boil your balls? " Lol Do you? | |||
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"I don't believe in 'leagues' No matter your body type, size, height etc there is someone that will find you attractive. I get an awful lot of mail, saying stuff like "you're way out of my league but...." I'm not, but the majority don't meet my preferences. I'm just not intrested or attracted someone 5/6" shorter than me or a certain body type. Trying to send a polite reply to a well written message without sounding pretentious, or offending someone isn't easy. " Very true but on the other hand when I message someone I have no expectations. It's how ppl take rejection. I believe I can't be everyone's cup of tea so if they're not into me polite "happy swinging" and move on. | |||
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"OP I'd like to be in a league with you ha ha " Ha ha Thank you. I believe we're all in the same league | |||
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"I guess it’s the nature of the beast here, the ratio of woman to men here is why woman can afford to be picky, some guys get offended by it or shitty if the woman doesn’t reply but most women I imagine get 50-60 messages per day at least and they can’t reply to them all " I can see your point although mutual respect and manners cost nothing. I'm referring here to blokes that can't take rejection and make rude comments. | |||
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"There are no leagues only in your own mind ...and if you don’t ask you will never knows " Agree with you 100% | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan You're definitely 'IN' my league Dan! Hey stranger lol x No, I dont believe in leagues. My opinion is that people do feel insecure n lack confidence. However, it does exist in the real world so when we have a social in a norml environment, yes people turn up, see the other n make that decision to stay or leave. Its the polite ones who make the effort to stay even if not for them so respect to them. I work in a swingers club n this is completely opposite. No judging, no being left stranded, no timewasters n theres no issue of leagues. I think it balls down to people being little bit more blunt online then in person do you boil your balls? Lol Do you? " not yet | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan " My thoughts when I checked out your profile were....Are you trying to give an old lady a heart attack at this time of the morning! Great pictures | |||
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"I don't believe in 'leagues' No matter your body type, size, height etc there is someone that will find you attractive. I get an awful lot of mail, saying stuff like "you're way out of my league but...." I'm not, but the majority don't meet my preferences. I'm just not intrested or attracted someone 5/6" shorter than me or a certain body type. Trying to send a polite reply to a well written message without sounding pretentious, or offending someone isn't easy. Very true but on the other hand when I message someone I have no expectations. It's how ppl take rejection. I believe I can't be everyone's cup of tea so if they're not into me polite "happy swinging" and move on." That's the problem. Previously I would reply to any polite message. But a lot can't take a polite rejection. Take it personally, often replied with something sarcastic, I've been accused of, thinking I'm too good, up my own arse, a time waster & a fake, all because I said no. So these days I'm reluctant to even send a reply. Which brings us back to 'leagues' not getting a reply, just a delete. Senders still end up annoyed, assume their initial message of "youre out my league" is correct & I think I'm something I'm not. Can't win. | |||
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"Manners do cost nothing OP unfortunately there are a few rude people on here, i can’t be anyone’s type lol" Exactly! Nobody can. | |||
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"I've always thought I've been in a league of my own anyway. So therefore everyone is out of my league. There is no such thing as being out of your league. I've met some extremely stunning ladies because we've 'clicked'. Did I think I was lucky? Yes, but then I always think I'm lucky to be invited to share someone's sex life, anyway. I've said before, it's not all about looks anyway, intellectually, then yes there are probably times when I'm not on the same playing field. But I find intelligence a massive turn on." Brilliant comment | |||
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"I've always thought I've been in a league of my own anyway. So therefore everyone is out of my league. There is no such thing as being out of your league. I've met some extremely stunning ladies because we've 'clicked'. Did I think I was lucky? Yes, but then I always think I'm lucky to be invited to share someone's sex life, anyway. I've said before, it's not all about looks anyway, intellectually, then yes there are probably times when I'm not on the same playing field. But I find intelligence a massive turn on." Intellectually then yes totally agree (that would be a whole new thread) ... but this post is about physically so I believe not. | |||
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"I always feel people are out of my league but I know its because I’m insecure about my size, forever on a diet!!! Then having a biscuit with my cuppa, self control not my strong point " Come and meet us then and we can share some cake. | |||
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"I always feel people are out of my league but I know its because I’m insecure about my size, forever on a diet!!! Then having a biscuit with my cuppa, self control not my strong point Come and meet us then and we can share some cake. " Only if there’s frosting on the cake lol!!! Dam literally no self control | |||
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"I've always thought I've been in a league of my own anyway. So therefore everyone is out of my league. There is no such thing as being out of your league. I've met some extremely stunning ladies because we've 'clicked'. Did I think I was lucky? Yes, but then I always think I'm lucky to be invited to share someone's sex life, anyway. I've said before, it's not all about looks anyway, intellectually, then yes there are probably times when I'm not on the same playing field. But I find intelligence a massive turn on. Intellectually then yes totally agree (that would be a whole new thread) ... but this post is about physically so I believe not. " Perhaps I've got it wrong, but I thought the op mentioned looks and personality? | |||
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"I've always thought I've been in a league of my own anyway. So therefore everyone is out of my league. There is no such thing as being out of your league. I've met some extremely stunning ladies because we've 'clicked'. Did I think I was lucky? Yes, but then I always think I'm lucky to be invited to share someone's sex life, anyway. I've said before, it's not all about looks anyway, intellectually, then yes there are probably times when I'm not on the same playing field. But I find intelligence a massive turn on. Intellectually then yes totally agree (that would be a whole new thread) ... but this post is about physically so I believe not. Perhaps I've got it wrong, but I thought the op mentioned looks and personality?" Technically it's open to interpretation. But far as this site goes looks seem to be more important. Personality seem to be far more important in person for example in the clubs. | |||
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"Completely agree with both the above comments. There is no rhyme or reason to attraction. " absolutely agree - chemistry and erotic appeal can be so much more than just looks | |||
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"I've always thought I've been in a league of my own anyway. So therefore everyone is out of my league. There is no such thing as being out of your league. I've met some extremely stunning ladies because we've 'clicked'. Did I think I was lucky? Yes, but then I always think I'm lucky to be invited to share someone's sex life, anyway. I've said before, it's not all about looks anyway, intellectually, then yes there are probably times when I'm not on the same playing field. But I find intelligence a massive turn on. Intellectually then yes totally agree (that would be a whole new thread) ... but this post is about physically so I believe not. Perhaps I've got it wrong, but I thought the op mentioned looks and personality? Technically it's open to interpretation. But far as this site goes looks seem to be more important. Personality seem to be far more important in person for example in the clubs." Couldn't agree more. Reading this thread through, it shows how everyone is fixated on looks, though, very little mention of personality. A sign of the times perhaps. | |||
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"I've always thought I've been in a league of my own anyway. So therefore everyone is out of my league. There is no such thing as being out of your league. I've met some extremely stunning ladies because we've 'clicked'. Did I think I was lucky? Yes, but then I always think I'm lucky to be invited to share someone's sex life, anyway. I've said before, it's not all about looks anyway, intellectually, then yes there are probably times when I'm not on the same playing field. But I find intelligence a massive turn on. Intellectually then yes totally agree (that would be a whole new thread) ... but this post is about physically so I believe not. Perhaps I've got it wrong, but I thought the op mentioned looks and personality? Technically it's open to interpretation. But far as this site goes looks seem to be more important. Personality seem to be far more important in person for example in the clubs." Hardly. Personality is irrelevant when everyone refuses to speak to you. | |||
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"I've always thought I've been in a league of my own anyway. So therefore everyone is out of my league. There is no such thing as being out of your league. I've met some extremely stunning ladies because we've 'clicked'. Did I think I was lucky? Yes, but then I always think I'm lucky to be invited to share someone's sex life, anyway. I've said before, it's not all about looks anyway, intellectually, then yes there are probably times when I'm not on the same playing field. But I find intelligence a massive turn on. Intellectually then yes totally agree (that would be a whole new thread) ... but this post is about physically so I believe not. Perhaps I've got it wrong, but I thought the op mentioned looks and personality? Technically it's open to interpretation. But far as this site goes looks seem to be more important. Personality seem to be far more important in person for example in the clubs. Couldn't agree more. Reading this thread through, it shows how everyone is fixated on looks, though, very little mention of personality. A sign of the times perhaps." I generally think people tend to be more blunt online and not really giving much of a chance to get to know the other person. | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan You mean "they wouldn't be interested in me because my physical appearance is not good and theirs is?" Well it happens but its more just down to individual personal attraction though some people like ot label everything. Would you feel intimidated just because person messaging you is extremely hot?" I have this at the moment, been exchanging messages with an extremely hot woman, been sent face pics, chatted about meets, she said personality above looks matters and she likes me. But I still can’t help feel She’s out of my league | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan You mean "they wouldn't be interested in me because my physical appearance is not good and theirs is?" Well it happens but its more just down to individual personal attraction though some people like ot label everything. Would you feel intimidated just because person messaging you is extremely hot? I have this at the moment, been exchanging messages with an extremely hot woman, been sent face pics, chatted about meets, she said personality above looks matters and she likes me. But I still can’t help feel She’s out of my league " By thinking that though it will show in how you react to her ... why not enjoy the experience and roll with it instead of worrying? Might be more fun | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan You mean "they wouldn't be interested in me because my physical appearance is not good and theirs is?" Well it happens but its more just down to individual personal attraction though some people like ot label everything. Would you feel intimidated just because person messaging you is extremely hot? I have this at the moment, been exchanging messages with an extremely hot woman, been sent face pics, chatted about meets, she said personality above looks matters and she likes me. But I still can’t help feel She’s out of my league By thinking that though it will show in how you react to her ... why not enjoy the experience and roll with it instead of worrying? Might be more fun " Exactly! Totally agree | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue " This is me. And there have been a couple of occasions when I’ve been meeting someone and it’s all good - lots of meets, lots of chat and then all of a sudden it drops off, and it’s been because they’ve met someone thinner/bigger boobs/whatever, and it’s made me feel like I’m only good enough to pass the time until someone hotter comes alone. I know it’s what happens and I’m not foolish enough to think that Fab friends don’t have other Fab friends that they see, but it can feel a bit of a blow when it happens overnight and you get friendzoned after being told for weeks how amazing you are..! I’m fairly body conscious and it takes a lot for me to feel comfortable with someone so it does smart a bit when it happens. | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue This is me. And there have been a couple of occasions when I’ve been meeting someone and it’s all good - lots of meets, lots of chat and then all of a sudden it drops off, and it’s been because they’ve met someone thinner/bigger boobs/whatever, and it’s made me feel like I’m only good enough to pass the time until someone hotter comes alone. I know it’s what happens and I’m not foolish enough to think that Fab friends don’t have other Fab friends that they see, but it can feel a bit of a blow when it happens overnight and you get friendzoned after being told for weeks how amazing you are..! I’m fairly body conscious and it takes a lot for me to feel comfortable with someone so it does smart a bit when it happens. " This must of happened to all of us at some point, I'd put it down as their loss | |||
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"Completely agree with both the above comments. There is no rhyme or reason to attraction. I agree to a point but if they have a load of size 10 or less and I'm a size 18 I'm going to think why the hell would he want to meet me " I agree and this affects my responses too | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue This is me. And there have been a couple of occasions when I’ve been meeting someone and it’s all good - lots of meets, lots of chat and then all of a sudden it drops off, and it’s been because they’ve met someone thinner/bigger boobs/whatever, and it’s made me feel like I’m only good enough to pass the time until someone hotter comes alone. I know it’s what happens and I’m not foolish enough to think that Fab friends don’t have other Fab friends that they see, but it can feel a bit of a blow when it happens overnight and you get friendzoned after being told for weeks how amazing you are..! I’m fairly body conscious and it takes a lot for me to feel comfortable with someone so it does smart a bit when it happens. This must of happened to all of us at some point, I'd put it down as their loss" It will feel like that in time I’m sure, right now it’s feeling very much like it’s my loss! But you know, if anyone would like to comfort me.... | |||
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"Completely agree with both the above comments. There is no rhyme or reason to attraction. I agree to a point but if they have a load of size 10 or less and I'm a size 18 I'm going to think why the hell would he want to meet me I agree and this affects my responses too " Oh and absolutely this as well! | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages That's awful! He sounds like a pig with less manners. I would have even be willing to pay for the coffee too awwww hey maybe you were too good looking Very good point ooooo I know Hahahaha highly unlikely. The women he met were about a size 6 I was a 12/14 " Yikes 12/14 wish I was! (even 5 year ago) | |||
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"You really have to be delusional to think that attractiveness is random, that there's no consensus on what is or isn't attractive. That or really bad at maths. Leagues aren't like the tooth fairy, they exist whether you want to believe in them or not. " Of course they do Money an status can influence leagues. Also for NSA sex though it can be like a FA cup tie between Man city & Salford. This is distorting peoples opinions. | |||
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"I'm with you on that. Only insecure people believe in leagues. And any body who believes they are better than anyone else because of they're looks or physique are the most insecure of all. " Plenty of insecure people on here then. The Adonis and Aphrodite types must surely be the worst. | |||
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"You really have to be delusional to think that attractiveness is random, that there's no consensus on what is or isn't attractive. That or really bad at maths. Leagues aren't like the tooth fairy, they exist whether you want to believe in them or not. " I don't think I am, I haven't really got a type and find totally different people attractive. I completely respect your point of view but can't agree with you. Thanks for your comment, always good to hear both sides. | |||
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"You really have to be delusional to think that attractiveness is random, that there's no consensus on what is or isn't attractive. That or really bad at maths. Leagues aren't like the tooth fairy, they exist whether you want to believe in them or not. I don't think I am, I haven't really got a type and find totally different people attractive. I completely respect your point of view but can't agree with you. Thanks for your comment, always good to hear both sides." Your Mrs looks slim and universally attractive though OP | |||
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"You really have to be delusional to think that attractiveness is random, that there's no consensus on what is or isn't attractive. That or really bad at maths. Leagues aren't like the tooth fairy, they exist whether you want to believe in them or not. I don't think I am, I haven't really got a type and find totally different people attractive. I completely respect your point of view but can't agree with you. Thanks for your comment, always good to hear both sides." So just out of interest, if we picked a picture of anna kournikova off the interweb and asked 10,000 people to rate her attractiveness, then your hypothesis is that the results would be random. As many people would rate her 4/10 attractive as would 8/10? Then if we did the same with a picture of Diane Abbott, we'd get as many people rating Diane 10/10 as we would anna kournikova? | |||
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"You really have to be delusional to think that attractiveness is random, that there's no consensus on what is or isn't attractive. That or really bad at maths. Leagues aren't like the tooth fairy, they exist whether you want to believe in them or not. I don't think I am, I haven't really got a type and find totally different people attractive. I completely respect your point of view but can't agree with you. Thanks for your comment, always good to hear both sides. So just out of interest, if we picked a picture of anna kournikova off the interweb and asked 10,000 people to rate her attractiveness, then your hypothesis is that the results would be random. As many people would rate her 4/10 attractive as would 8/10? Then if we did the same with a picture of Diane Abbott, we'd get as many people rating Diane 10/10 as we would anna kournikova? " Not at all, but I'm sure there would be all kind of people finding one or the other attractive. What I'm saying is there's no rule on who's attacted to one or the other. | |||
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"The thing about this place from a guys perspective anyway it really is pointless attempting to contact some of the stunning women on here even if you are a really good looking guy with a great profile and a good personality, reason being it's nigh on impossible to communicate with them, I myself lose interest if my interest isn't reciprocated even if I've had messages and positive feedback from that woman, it's all about communication for me, so percentage wise why even attempt to go there, I've tried but common sense prevails " Yep two people have to want the same, for it to work.... | |||
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"You really have to be delusional to think that attractiveness is random, that there's no consensus on what is or isn't attractive. That or really bad at maths. Leagues aren't like the tooth fairy, they exist whether you want to believe in them or not. I don't think I am, I haven't really got a type and find totally different people attractive. I completely respect your point of view but can't agree with you. Thanks for your comment, always good to hear both sides. So just out of interest, if we picked a picture of anna kournikova off the interweb and asked 10,000 people to rate her attractiveness, then your hypothesis is that the results would be random. As many people would rate her 4/10 attractive as would 8/10? Then if we did the same with a picture of Diane Abbott, we'd get as many people rating Diane 10/10 as we would anna kournikova? Not at all, but I'm sure there would be all kind of people finding one or the other attractive. What I'm saying is there's no rule on who's attacted to one or the other." There is probability though | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan " Its a little like the profiles that say "attractive people only". How on earth does anyone else know what is attractive to that person! Though I'm guessing they are looking for the Brad Pitt type. | |||
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"The thing about this place from a guys perspective anyway it really is pointless attempting to contact some of the stunning women on here even if you are a really good looking guy with a great profile and a good personality, reason being it's nigh on impossible to communicate with them, I myself lose interest if my interest isn't reciprocated even if I've had messages and positive feedback from that woman, it's all about communication for me, so percentage wise why even attempt to go there, I've tried but common sense prevails Yep two people have to want the same, for it to work.... " exactly and the woman herself may be interested but just doesn't have the ability to keep up with the volume of messages and the amount of guys she herself is interested in | |||
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"You really have to be delusional to think that attractiveness is random, that there's no consensus on what is or isn't attractive. That or really bad at maths. Leagues aren't like the tooth fairy, they exist whether you want to believe in them or not. I don't think I am, I haven't really got a type and find totally different people attractive. I completely respect your point of view but can't agree with you. Thanks for your comment, always good to hear both sides. So just out of interest, if we picked a picture of anna kournikova off the interweb and asked 10,000 people to rate her attractiveness, then your hypothesis is that the results would be random. As many people would rate her 4/10 attractive as would 8/10? Then if we did the same with a picture of Diane Abbott, we'd get as many people rating Diane 10/10 as we would anna kournikova? " Maybe you are both right. For the sake of the argument maybe there are 10% of people who are exceptionally, objectively, unquestionably attractive or unattractive. Within those groups it probably won’t be too random. And then there are the other 80% of us in the middle. And within that 80% it very much becomes more subjective, and about all sorts of things that any given person just happens to find attractive in someone else. In this group however it probably will be more random. At the end of the day most of us are reasonably attractive, by design, otherwise we wouldn’t hook up and the whole thing wouldn’t work. | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan Its a little like the profiles that say "attractive people only". How on earth does anyone else know what is attractive to that person! Though I'm guessing they are looking for the Brad Pitt type. " Most people have a mirror and know how attractive or not ok some people are deluded but the fact some people put im no oil painting or no Brad Pitt on their profiles backs this up. | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages " He must’ve been blind. Your gorgeous. He must’ve been looking for a stick! You’ve a great figure and definitely didn’t deserve to be treated like that. How can you tell if you click or not if you don’t meet? He lost out big time. | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages " The first thing I thought was he couldn’t cope with a curvier lady as he would need more length to satisfy hence sticking to types he could cope with, and what nature gave him (or not ) | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages I’m sorry but his loss!! , at least go through with the meet and if it’s not what you want block them after it. That's sweet. I don't see it his loss though. He clearly wasn't attracted to me . I agree with the social though. Unless someone blatantly lies about the way they look/ their age. It's common courtesy to have a coffee and at least make an excuse to leave early haha. I would have preferred for him to lie and say something had come up and he couldn't make it. I would have been a bit angry then, rather than completely mortified " That is completely shit - even if the person has lied it’s pretty harsh to catfish them like that. You swerved a bullet by the sounds of things. | |||
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"The 8 years I've been on and off of here and swinging has made me far more confident and I would approach what I considered to be a fit guy, even if it was a message just to say great body or similar compliment. Its nice to be nice " I agree sometimes you get a message just for that reason | |||
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"The 8 years I've been on and off of here and swinging has made me far more confident and I would approach what I considered to be a fit guy, even if it was a message just to say great body or similar compliment. Its nice to be nice I agree sometimes you get a message just for that reason " Indeed, in fact I have done exactly this with the OP years ago on my old profile and he was kind enough to reply with a thank you | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan Its a little like the profiles that say "attractive people only". How on earth does anyone else know what is attractive to that person! Though I'm guessing they are looking for the Brad Pitt type. Most people have a mirror and know how attractive or not ok some people are deluded but the fact some people put im no oil painting or no Brad Pitt on their profiles backs this up." A mirror tells you nothing. Some of the most beautiful people have self esteem issue and believe they are ugly. | |||
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"You really have to be delusional to think that attractiveness is random, that there's no consensus on what is or isn't attractive. That or really bad at maths. Leagues aren't like the tooth fairy, they exist whether you want to believe in them or not. I don't think I am, I haven't really got a type and find totally different people attractive. I completely respect your point of view but can't agree with you. Thanks for your comment, always good to hear both sides. So just out of interest, if we picked a picture of anna kournikova off the interweb and asked 10,000 people to rate her attractiveness, then your hypothesis is that the results would be random. As many people would rate her 4/10 attractive as would 8/10? Then if we did the same with a picture of Diane Abbott, we'd get as many people rating Diane 10/10 as we would anna kournikova? Maybe you are both right. For the sake of the argument maybe there are 10% of people who are exceptionally, objectively, unquestionably attractive or unattractive. Within those groups it probably won’t be too random. And then there are the other 80% of us in the middle. And within that 80% it very much becomes more subjective, and about all sorts of things that any given person just happens to find attractive in someone else. In this group however it probably will be more random. At the end of the day most of us are reasonably attractive, by design, otherwise we wouldn’t hook up and the whole thing wouldn’t work." I really don't think it's hard to define. We know that attractiveness is linked to things like facial symmetry, hip to waist ratios and shoulder width. Psychologically people have types that they like. But it's a big mistake to conflate the two. Personally i don't like tattooed Goths. But it's nonsense for me to say that a tattooed goths isn't attractive just because i don't fancy her. If she's got the symmetrical face, the hip to waist ratio and high cheek bones then she is attractive, whether she is my type of not. | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan Its a little like the profiles that say "attractive people only". How on earth does anyone else know what is attractive to that person! Though I'm guessing they are looking for the Brad Pitt type. Most people have a mirror and know how attractive or not ok some people are deluded but the fact some people put im no oil painting or no Brad Pitt on their profiles backs this up. A mirror tells you nothing. Some of the most beautiful people have self esteem issue and believe they are ugly. " Have also.found that to be true | |||
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"There are leagues though. Like I wouldn’t go with a guy that was unattractive no matter how brilliant his personality was, I just couldn’t do it. Only once have I ever been completely intimidated by a guy because of his looks but he was insanely handsome, still fucked for a few months. " Yes, and no. That isn’t necessarily to do with leagues though. That’s just you not fancying someone. Someone else, broadly as attractive as you might be, may well fancy people you do, and vice versa. All of this is quite interesting though. Generally, we all view ourselves as less attractive than others see us. There was an experiment about this on TV recently. They got a bunch of people together and let them mingle for an hour or so. Then they all had pics taken of their faces. And each was digitally enhanced so they had the original, 2 versions to look less attractive, and two to look more attractive. Then everyone was asked to say which version was the real version of everyone. In almost every case other people picked one of the more attractive versions, and people tended to pick the less attractive versions of themselves. So the moral, of there is one, might be that it there are leagues, a lot of us might actually be in a league higher than the one we might think we are. | |||
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"The 8 years I've been on and off of here and swinging has made me far more confident and I would approach what I considered to be a fit guy, even if it was a message just to say great body or similar compliment. Its nice to be nice I agree sometimes you get a message just for that reason Indeed, in fact I have done exactly this with the OP years ago on my old profile and he was kind enough to reply with a thank you " I totally agree it's nice to be nice and complement someone even if you 100s miles away and never ever going to meet. Owh did you? Thank you again and what a memory...wow! | |||
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"The 8 years I've been on and off of here and swinging has made me far more confident and I would approach what I considered to be a fit guy, even if it was a message just to say great body or similar compliment. Its nice to be nice I agree sometimes you get a message just for that reason Indeed, in fact I have done exactly this with the OP years ago on my old profile and he was kind enough to reply with a thank you I totally agree it's nice to be nice and complement someone even if you 100s miles away and never ever going to meet. Owh did you? Thank you again and what a memory...wow! " I'm never going to forget that body, you come with operating instructions on your side as well haha | |||
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"You really have to be delusional to think that attractiveness is random, that there's no consensus on what is or isn't attractive. That or really bad at maths. Leagues aren't like the tooth fairy, they exist whether you want to believe in them or not. I don't think I am, I haven't really got a type and find totally different people attractive. I completely respect your point of view but can't agree with you. Thanks for your comment, always good to hear both sides. So just out of interest, if we picked a picture of anna kournikova off the interweb and asked 10,000 people to rate her attractiveness, then your hypothesis is that the results would be random. As many people would rate her 4/10 attractive as would 8/10? Then if we did the same with a picture of Diane Abbott, we'd get as many people rating Diane 10/10 as we would anna kournikova? Maybe you are both right. For the sake of the argument maybe there are 10% of people who are exceptionally, objectively, unquestionably attractive or unattractive. Within those groups it probably won’t be too random. And then there are the other 80% of us in the middle. And within that 80% it very much becomes more subjective, and about all sorts of things that any given person just happens to find attractive in someone else. In this group however it probably will be more random. At the end of the day most of us are reasonably attractive, by design, otherwise we wouldn’t hook up and the whole thing wouldn’t work. I really don't think it's hard to define. We know that attractiveness is linked to things like facial symmetry, hip to waist ratios and shoulder width. Psychologically people have types that they like. But it's a big mistake to conflate the two. Personally i don't like tattooed Goths. But it's nonsense for me to say that a tattooed goths isn't attractive just because i don't fancy her. If she's got the symmetrical face, the hip to waist ratio and high cheek bones then she is attractive, whether she is my type of not. " Sure. But the group of people that most people are attracted to is not limited to people with perfectly symmetrical features or the golden ratio or the highest cheekbones. There may be some correlation between ‘leagues’, but if it was a Venn Daigram there would be a lot of overlapping circles. | |||
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"Why do people have such an issue with making a statement like "anna kournikova is out of my league"? I don't, it's just a statement of fact. I'm not ugly but i simply wasn't born with the qualities that make me anywhere near attractive to match with her. It is what it is. Why pretend otherwise. " Because there is an element of truth in the argument that attraction is subjective. There will be some people who find Diane A more attractive than Anna K. Not many, but some. Hence the statement "Anna K is more attractive than Diane A" is not objectively and universally true in the same sense as the statement "elephants are bigger than mice". What is accurate is the statement that " in the UK in 2018 more people find Anna K more attractive than Diane A". A statement about majority subjective opinion in a particular time and effort place. | |||
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"Why do people have such an issue with making a statement like "anna kournikova is out of my league"? I don't, it's just a statement of fact. I'm not ugly but i simply wasn't born with the qualities that make me anywhere near attractive to match with her. It is what it is. Why pretend otherwise. " Because I'd rather say I'm not her type for sure and she's not mine either which to me indicates there's no league's but personal preferences. I think categorizing people and placing them into some leagues... not to cause any controversy I'm going to say it's not great in my personal opinion. I'm not trying to changethe the world or convince anybody that I'm right and they're wrong. This is the crucial point of any discussion to hear different outlook on the same topic. I think everyone who got involved in this conversation is right because there's no wrong everyone's entitled to their personal opinion and preferences. Thank you everyone for comments! | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan " Think it's a confidence thing , I'm a wobbly tummy big girl so do feel I would turn guys off when meeting so would avoid the disappointment of rejection, unless we have built up a rapport and exchanged pictures properly. I did tell guys of the wobbly overhang lol | |||
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"Why do people have such an issue with making a statement like "anna kournikova is out of my league"? I don't, it's just a statement of fact. I'm not ugly but i simply wasn't born with the qualities that make me anywhere near attractive to match with her. It is what it is. Why pretend otherwise. Because there is an element of truth in the argument that attraction is subjective. There will be some people who find Diane A more attractive than Anna K. Not many, but some. Hence the statement "Anna K is more attractive than Diane A" is not objectively and universally true in the same sense as the statement "elephants are bigger than mice". What is accurate is the statement that " in the UK in 2018 more people find Anna K more attractive than Diane A". A statement about majority subjective opinion in a particular time and effort place. " Exceptions don't prove the rule though. It really seems on this thread and the HIV one, that people just don't understand probability. We know that 100% of people can't agree on the colour of shite. So when someone makes a statement that is very true but not a law of nature, the sensible thing is to ask the standard deviation and not to point out the one delusional person who thinks Jeremy Corbyn could get a date with anna kournikova. | |||
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"You really have to be delusional to think that attractiveness is random, that there's no consensus on what is or isn't attractive. That or really bad at maths. Leagues aren't like the tooth fairy, they exist whether you want to believe in them or not. I don't think I am, I haven't really got a type and find totally different people attractive. I completely respect your point of view but can't agree with you. Thanks for your comment, always good to hear both sides. So just out of interest, if we picked a picture of anna kournikova off the interweb and asked 10,000 people to rate her attractiveness, then your hypothesis is that the results would be random. As many people would rate her 4/10 attractive as would 8/10? Then if we did the same with a picture of Diane Abbott, we'd get as many people rating Diane 10/10 as we would anna kournikova? Maybe you are both right. For the sake of the argument maybe there are 10% of people who are exceptionally, objectively, unquestionably attractive or unattractive. Within those groups it probably won’t be too random. And then there are the other 80% of us in the middle. And within that 80% it very much becomes more subjective, and about all sorts of things that any given person just happens to find attractive in someone else. In this group however it probably will be more random. At the end of the day most of us are reasonably attractive, by design, otherwise we wouldn’t hook up and the whole thing wouldn’t work. I really don't think it's hard to define. We know that attractiveness is linked to things like facial symmetry, hip to waist ratios and shoulder width. Psychologically people have types that they like. But it's a big mistake to conflate the two. Personally i don't like tattooed Goths. But it's nonsense for me to say that a tattooed goths isn't attractive just because i don't fancy her. If she's got the symmetrical face, the hip to waist ratio and high cheek bones then she is attractive, whether she is my type of not. Sure. But the group of people that most people are attracted to is not limited to people with perfectly symmetrical features or the golden ratio or the highest cheekbones. There may be some correlation between ‘leagues’, but if it was a Venn Daigram there would be a lot of overlapping circles." The reality is that most of us are self aware enough to match ourselves with someone of roughly equal attractiveness. Some people then engage a sour grapes fantasy that they don't want someone with more facial symmetry or higher cheek bones. Personally I'm cool with the fact that anna kournikova is out of my league. | |||
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"You really have to be delusional to think that attractiveness is random, that there's no consensus on what is or isn't attractive. That or really bad at maths. Leagues aren't like the tooth fairy, they exist whether you want to believe in them or not. I don't think I am, I haven't really got a type and find totally different people attractive. I completely respect your point of view but can't agree with you. Thanks for your comment, always good to hear both sides. So just out of interest, if we picked a picture of anna kournikova off the interweb and asked 10,000 people to rate her attractiveness, then your hypothesis is that the results would be random. As many people would rate her 4/10 attractive as would 8/10? Then if we did the same with a picture of Diane Abbott, we'd get as many people rating Diane 10/10 as we would anna kournikova? Maybe you are both right. For the sake of the argument maybe there are 10% of people who are exceptionally, objectively, unquestionably attractive or unattractive. Within those groups it probably won’t be too random. And then there are the other 80% of us in the middle. And within that 80% it very much becomes more subjective, and about all sorts of things that any given person just happens to find attractive in someone else. In this group however it probably will be more random. At the end of the day most of us are reasonably attractive, by design, otherwise we wouldn’t hook up and the whole thing wouldn’t work. I really don't think it's hard to define. We know that attractiveness is linked to things like facial symmetry, hip to waist ratios and shoulder width. Psychologically people have types that they like. But it's a big mistake to conflate the two. Personally i don't like tattooed Goths. But it's nonsense for me to say that a tattooed goths isn't attractive just because i don't fancy her. If she's got the symmetrical face, the hip to waist ratio and high cheek bones then she is attractive, whether she is my type of not. Sure. But the group of people that most people are attracted to is not limited to people with perfectly symmetrical features or the golden ratio or the highest cheekbones. There may be some correlation between ‘leagues’, but if it was a Venn Daigram there would be a lot of overlapping circles. The reality is that most of us are self aware enough to match ourselves with someone of roughly equal attractiveness. Some people then engage a sour grapes fantasy that they don't want someone with more facial symmetry or higher cheek bones. Personally I'm cool with the fact that anna kournikova is out of my league. " You keep mentioning Anna. Arguably she might be on the notional group that is clearly, objectively attractive to most people. As for our self awareness, maybe, maybe not. If most of us view ourselves as less attractive compared to how others view ourselves, as born out by the sort of experiment I mentioned above, then arguably that self awareness isn’t all that. | |||
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"As a society these days, we are obsessed by our looks. You only have to look at all the programmes on tv. Love island, towie, made in chelsea. I personally have never watched them but they are talked about a lot at my work place. I look at the younger generation and how they obsess about how tanned they need to be and how long their lashes are and boob jobs at 18! What the hell is that about? Anyway, my point is I, like most people have insecurities about my body. I'm no spring chicken, and yes, my face is ageing much quicker than my body so If I get a message from a gorgeous adonis with a six pack telling me I'm hot or stunning I ask myself 'how do they know without seeing my face?' Does that mean they are only attracted to my body? Do looks matter? But.... I've also had it from the other side. Guys that I've met have messaged saying that women don't want to meet them because they've met me and I'm smaller in size to them. I do look at some profiles and think they are 'out of my league' but it doesn't stop me from communicating with them. The bottom line is: we all have our insecurities, it's what we do about it... and as I said earlier you as a woman have the pick of the bunch, you have a sexy body and as a couple you I would assume are only looking for one off meets, I don't Base my choices souly on looks personality is at the top but you can only gauge that in time really, so I suppose it depends how much time you're willing to put into it, I'm in no rush so for me liking the person first and fancying them are the order of my choice " We are not looking for one off meets. We prefer a few regular playmates. You're right when you say personality comes before looks. Which is why I like to chat back and forth to get a feel for a person. | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan " If you are talking about purely looks only then yes, such things as different leagues certainly DO exist. Then again, attractiveness and chemistry between two people really is more than just looks. You could look like a Victoria's Secret model and yet have the worst personality ever imaginable and it would still put any but the shallowest of people off anything more than ogling at your from a distance. The problem with Fab and online dating/swinger/sex sites in general is that it is so looks-oriented. Hence why this feeling of being "out of someone's league" has such an amplified effect in affecting who and how we interact with online here. | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan Its a little like the profiles that say "attractive people only". How on earth does anyone else know what is attractive to that person! Though I'm guessing they are looking for the Brad Pitt type. Most people have a mirror and know how attractive or not ok some people are deluded but the fact some people put im no oil painting or no Brad Pitt on their profiles backs this up. A mirror tells you nothing. Some of the most beautiful people have self esteem issue and believe they are ugly. Have also.found that to be true " But a mirror can tell you if you're attractive on the outside, but it can't tell you if you're ugly as sin on the inside. | |||
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"I agree OP. I don't believe anyone to be 'out of my league'. If you like someone, the only thing that really matters is if the feeling is reciprocated." Anna Kournikova is out of your league pal #justsaying | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan " Does this mean you’re not out of y league? | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue " this is so true im a black guy but not the stereo typical black guy most people are after from this site so this knocks my confidence alot and there are a lot of good looking people who i dont message because of this | |||
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"Just wondering if it's just me but I don't believe in something called "out of my league". People are attracted to various things, looks and personality. What are your thoughts? Dan If you are talking about purely looks only then yes, such things as different leagues certainly DO exist. Then again, attractiveness and chemistry between two people really is more than just looks. You could look like a Victoria's Secret model and yet have the worst personality ever imaginable and it would still put any but the shallowest of people off anything more than ogling at your from a distance. The problem with Fab and online dating/swinger/sex sites in general is that it is so looks-oriented. Hence why this feeling of being "out of someone's league" has such an amplified effect in affecting who and how we interact with online here. " this is a societal problem we have been conditioned to take everything at face value whether thats looks, success or status rather than give people a chance | |||
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"I don't believe in leagues.. we're all unique individuals some folk will find my uniqueness attractive others won't. I'm old enough to accept this. Those that say ladies have the pick of the bunch..annoys me no end.. **news flash** everyone has or have the same choices. Yes please or no thanks.. it's a two way street no one is obliged. " Leagues are about choices. It's like football. Ronaldo could choose virtually any club in the world to play for. Accrington Stanley's reserve left back has a rather more restricted choice who he plays for. Ditto, women on here have the pick of hot men. Vice versa doesn't apply. | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages I’m sorry but his loss!! , at least go through with the meet and if it’s not what you want block them after it. That's sweet. I don't see it his loss though. He clearly wasn't attracted to me . I agree with the social though. Unless someone blatantly lies about the way they look/ their age. It's common courtesy to have a coffee and at least make an excuse to leave early haha. I would have preferred for him to lie and say something had come up and he couldn't make it. I would have been a bit angry then, rather than completely mortified " I had a guy escape out the toilet window once....well I think that's were he went or down the toilet who knows..vanished just liked that. It was a date in a pub one evening from a dating site. I went outside and laughed with myself as I was Billy no mates. | |||
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"I do get what you are saying OP. But if i do see someone who is extremely hot and very fit, I do get that niggle that I would not be their type, so wouldn't engage... in that respect, maybe I do feel that their type is a bit out of my league. I don't like that I think like that. Perhaps it's a confidence issue But if they contacted you and find you attractive and you find them attractive too what's the issue? You don't believe they see you as a hot sexy lady? I've had someone beg me for a meet. He had only lovely very slim women on his veris. I'm chunkier. I was very hesitant, but he convinced me he liked different shapes. I turned up.at the coffee shop. Time passed and I was still waiting. I eventually messaged him and he said he saw me then left. That I wasn't his type after all. That was 5 years ago and it still haunts me haha. So I don't trust someone thinking they find me attractive via messages I’m sorry but his loss!! , at least go through with the meet and if it’s not what you want block them after it. That's sweet. I don't see it his loss though. He clearly wasn't attracted to me . I agree with the social though. Unless someone blatantly lies about the way they look/ their age. It's common courtesy to have a coffee and at least make an excuse to leave early haha. I would have preferred for him to lie and say something had come up and he couldn't make it. I would have been a bit angry then, rather than completely mortified I had a guy escape out the toilet window once....well I think that's were he went or down the toilet who knows..vanished just liked that. It was a date in a pub one evening from a dating site. I went outside and laughed with myself as I was Billy no mates. " really God, maybe he was intimidated? | |||
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