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Swinger? Or adulterer?

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

If you are married to a non fabber and you meet other people without their knowledge are you a swinger, an adulterer...or something else? Your non swinging spouse has absutely no idea about your "hobby". But they withold sex when they feel like it. So who can blame the swinged/adulterer. Right??

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By *sGivesWoodWoman over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

An adulterer.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Swinging in our opinion is mutually consentual between all parties. If you're playing solo and partner knows and is ok with it, swinging... if your hiding it, you're a cheat.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"Swinging in our opinion is mutually consentual between all parties. If you're playing solo and partner knows and is ok with it, swinging... if your hiding it, you're a cheat."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh here we go again!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Oh here we go again!!

A guilty party then??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If you are married to a non fabber and you meet other people without their knowledge are you a swinger, an adulterer...or something else? Your non swinging spouse has absutely no idea about your "hobby". But they withold sex when they feel like it. So who can blame the swinged/adulterer. Right??"
you asking on behalf of a friend?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

People will and do blame the person who plays away. The blame is rarely placed at the doorstep of the person withholding sex.

Personally I think both bear equal responsibility for the situation they find themselves in and I would call them poor communicators.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Cheating cunt

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People will and do blame the person who plays away. The blame is rarely placed at the doorstep of the person withholding sex.

Personally I think both bear equal responsibility for the situation they find themselves in and I would call them poor communicators."

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By *uzz And WoodyCouple over a year ago

Maidstone

If your whole relationship is just based on sex, then I’m afraid you need to get a grip. There is no justification for cheating, full stop. The easy option is to end the relationship first, sadly gutless cowards never do this. Just my opinion.

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By *ebjonnsonMan over a year ago

Maldon

Agreed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Agreed."
why do you agree though? Is it because she's a large breasted woman?

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By *ebjonnsonMan over a year ago

Maldon

Agreed.why do you agree though? Is it because she's a large breasted woman? "

Is she, I didn’t notice

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By *exyFusionCouple over a year ago

Near to you

"Swinging in our opinion is mutually consentual between all parties. If you're playing solo and partner knows and is ok with it, swinging... if your hiding it, you're a cheat."

Yep. Pretty much.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Swinging in our opinion is mutually consentual between all parties. If you're playing solo and partner knows and is ok with it, swinging... if your hiding it, you're a cheat.

Yep. Pretty much.

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that's harsh, she's not getting any, that's torture in my book

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Swinging in our opinion is mutually consentual between all parties. If you're playing solo and partner knows and is ok with it, swinging... if your hiding it, you're a cheat."

Yep.

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By *tirluvMan over a year ago

the right frame of mind -London

Another weekly thread attempting to justify "my" questionable morals is it or is there some new angle you have on the subject?

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By *otgirl32Woman over a year ago

Ashton Under Lyne

It's adultery. That said, unlike others I'm not at all judgemental on people who cheat and don't have any problems playing with men or women who're playing away.

In the majority of cases the spouse who's being cheated on HAS a contributory role. Doesn't mean it's fair on him/her and doesn't mean he/she "deserves" to be cheated on. But in most cases they're not that innocent either. I'm just saying people cheat for reasons that others are in no position to understand or judge.

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By *ebjonnsonMan over a year ago

Maldon

"It's adultery. That said, unlike others I'm not at all judgemental on people who cheat and don't have any problems playing with men or women who're playing away.

Brilliant!

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By *onnie And Clyde9070Couple over a year ago

Leeds

"Oh here we go again!!

A guilty party then??"

Yep, sounds like it. He's even hidden his profile.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Oh here we go again!!

A guilty party then??

Yep, sounds like it. He's even hidden his profile."

So have we but its not for any dodgy reason. Temporarily hopefully x

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By *eerobCouple over a year ago

solihull

"If your whole relationship is just based on sex, then I’m afraid you need to get a grip. There is no justification for cheating, full stop. The easy option is to end the relationship first, sadly gutless cowards never do this. Just my opinion.

Ed"

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By *offee with MilkCouple over a year ago

Over the roundabout and then turn right.

Of course it's cheating. Whether it is justified or not is a different matter.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

adulter

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple over a year ago

London

Adultery is generally defined is a married person having sex with someone who is not their spouse. Consent is irrelevant. For example, adultery would be a ground for divorce even if the adulterers spouse consented to the adultery.

Obviously, I doubt anyone on here would see anything wrong with consensual adultery.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's adultery. That said, unlike others I'm not at all judgemental on people who cheat and don't have any problems playing with men or women who're playing away.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Swinging in our opinion is mutually consentual between all parties. If you're playing solo and partner knows and is ok with it, swinging... if your hiding it, you're a cheat.

Yep. Pretty much.

This

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Also it’s only men that cheat not women

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

Two singles fucking isn't swinging with or without permission

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Of course it's cheating. Whether it is justified or not is a different matter.

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By *ildjianMan over a year ago

London

Legally, only sexual intercourse is adultery, any other sexual act is not. Also, having sex with a person of the same sex is not adultery.

It's often inadvisable to use adultery as grounds for divorce, it's much easier to use 'unreasonable behaviour'.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Adulterer. Anyone who has sex with others, without their husband/wifes knowledge and consent is an adulterer. Just being on fab, doesn't automatically turn them into swingers. They are still committing adultery.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If they are part of the swinging scene they are an adulterous swinger.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Two singles fucking isn't swinging with or without permission

Only when they join a swinging couple.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ed"

Omg couldnt have put it better myself.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They are not swingers, they are just cheats, swinging is about being open and honest with all involved not just each other

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By *eeowlsMan over a year ago

sheffield

Adulterer as it’s only swinging if partners permission is given

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

This is all so interesting - I asked the question as it seems there are a heck of a lot of "single" people who are actually attached, and their significant other has no idea at all about their activities. All very sad.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple over a year ago

London

"This is all so interesting - I asked the question as it seems there are a heck of a lot of "single" people who are actually attached, and their significant other has no idea at all about their activities. All very sad."

On our experience a clear majority of alleged single men on here have wives or girlfriends.

Single women less so, as women are less likely to want extra curricular sex when they have a partner.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Also it’s only men that cheat not women

"
omg that's a sweeping statement

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ed"

This

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Two singles fucking isn't swinging with or without permission

So only couples are allowed to be swingers?! ...therein lies the hypocrisy of Fab...yet again...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are not swingers, they are just cheats, swinging is about being open and honest with all involved not just each other

Exactly this

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

On our experience a clear majority of alleged single men on here have wives or girlfriends.

Single women less so, as women are less likely to want extra curricular sex when they have a partner. "

This must be the male speaking

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Also it’s only men that cheat not women

omg that's a sweeping statement "

Think there was a touch of irony in it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

An adulterous swinger. Doesn't matter how you dress it up, the person is cheating.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's adultery. That said, unlike others I'm not at all judgemental on people who cheat and don't have any problems playing with men or women who're playing away.

However, they are in a position to judge (assess) in relation to themselves.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Also it’s only men that cheat not women

omg that's a sweeping statement "

And not at all tongue in cheek

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Also it’s only men that cheat not women

omg that's a sweeping statement

And not at all tongue in cheek

Fat fingers

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If the other person has no clue then you're cheating, simple.

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"If the other person has no clue then you're cheating, simple. "
this

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's adultery. That said, unlike others I'm not at all judgemental on people who cheat and don't have any problems playing with men or women who're playing away.

Really like that and sums it up nicely!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Youre an adulterer. If you aren't happy with your partner, leave thrm

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wow that’s so heavy. If you are having those thoughts then you shouldn’t be doing this.

This site is for like minded people who just want to have sex encounters with out all this baggage.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Swinging in our opinion is mutually consentual between all parties. If you're playing solo and partner knows and is ok with it, swinging... if your hiding it, you're a cheat."

This

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Swinging in our opinion is mutually consentual between all parties. If you're playing solo and partner knows and is ok with it, swinging... if your hiding it, you're a cheat."

Yup.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?"

Casual sex is not swinging. It's just plain silly to link the two. If it was then we wouldn't need the word 'swinging'. No reasonably intelligent person would say universities are a hotbed of swinging

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Read some of the threads on here especially but not only from young single men, they are here specifically for one on one with multiple partners... back in the day we used to call that casual sex.

Following the forums these days getting naked seems to count as swinging.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Read some of the threads on here especially but not only from young single men, they are here specifically for one on one with multiple partners... back in the day we used to call that casual sex.

Following the forums these days getting naked seems to count as swinging."

To quote the great Tyler Durden: "sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's cheating. But if the person was happy with their spouse they wouldn't feel the physical or emotional need to go elsewhere. Doesn't make it right. But witholding sex/affection/intimacy isnt right either.

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By *ollymollWoman over a year ago

Stockport

Why do people always assume that the person at home is withholding sex?

I’ve been cheated on and I certainly never withheld anything!

Some people are just mean, plain and simple.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"Why do people always assume that the person at home is withholding sex?

I’ve been cheated on and I certainly never withheld anything!

Some people are just mean, plain and simple."

Or just not monogamous

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By *ollymollWoman over a year ago

Stockport

"Why do people always assume that the person at home is withholding sex?

I’ve been cheated on and I certainly never withheld anything!

Some people are just mean, plain and simple.

Or just not monogamous

There’s no “just” about it, I don’t think.

It’s not a small thing to do to someone.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Read some of the threads on here especially but not only from young single men, they are here specifically for one on one with multiple partners... back in the day we used to call that casual sex.

Following the forums these days getting naked seems to count as swinging."

You are mistakenly counting forum posters are swingers, quite bizarrely the vast majority aren't even close.

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By *roticaCouple over a year ago

Gloucestershire

[Removed by poster at 01/11/18 22:18:16]

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By *roticaCouple over a year ago

Gloucestershire

Why cant you love 2 men?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"Why do people always assume that the person at home is withholding sex?

I’ve been cheated on and I certainly never withheld anything!

Some people are just mean, plain and simple.

Or just not monogamous

There’s no “just” about it, I don’t think.

It’s not a small thing to do to someone.

I understand why it seems that way from your perspective. Personally I'm more surprised by the men that can be truly monogamous than the ones who aren't.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe whoever it is should tell the non fabber about their "hobby", I'll take a guess at the non fabber reaction ....

I'd say that the person is more of a liar and a twat

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By *xdirtyboyxxMan over a year ago

chorley

Ed"

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Why cant you love 2 men?"

Or women??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes it makes them a cheat but as to where the blame lies?......that's difficult to say. If sex is withheld then they are pushing their partner away, what is making them withold sex?

Things are never black and white and we shouldn't ever judge other people's relationships or actions that the individual takes, without knowing full facts.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Following the forums these days getting naked seems to count as swinging.

You are mistakenly counting forum posters are swingers, quite bizarrely the vast majority aren't even close. "

I agree, but the point I was making is that there is no definitive definition is swinger, so those who play against their partners wishes or with consent or even positive encouragement can just redefine it to suit themselves.

Personally I am married, have consent but don't choose to use it. Despite limited opportunities I only want to meet as a couple.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Why cant you love 2 men?

Or women??

You can, people do, but not often

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe right or maybe wrong, but I consider swinging as having sex with someone you are not in a relationship with, whereas cheating is having a relationship with someone you are not married to whilst you are married/also in a relationship with.

If that makes sense.

However, your other half might not think the same way so she/he might consider any form of physical contact as cheating, in which case I think she/he is correct.

I had a relationship where she enjoyed watching me having sex with another woman, but it was purely a physical act but never turned into anything else so not cheating, she also liked to hear about what happened behind her back, as did I, so also not cheating.

Isn't life and relationships complicated.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"Maybe right or maybe wrong, but I consider swinging as having sex with someone you are not in a relationship with, whereas cheating is having a relationship with someone you are not married to whilst you are married/also in a relationship with.

If that makes sense.

However, your other half might not think the same way so she/he might consider any form of physical contact as cheating, in which case I think she/he is correct.

Isn't life and relationships complicated."

So in your brain, how do you reconcile swinging clubs and websites being largely devoid of people under 21 whilst universities are full of people having sex outside relationships? Do most people just cease being swingers when they graduate?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Adultery is having sex or an intimate relationahip with somebody without your partner's consent. Simple really. It doesn't matter whether you think you are a swinger or not if your partner doesn't know. It tends to have a very negative effect on the relationship in question when discovered.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Adultery is having sex or an intimate relationahip with somebody without your partner's consent. Simple really. It doesn't matter whether you think you are a swinger or not if your partner doesn't know. It tends to have a very negative effect on the relationship in question when discovered.

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we talking divorce?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I could have said Adultery/Cheating as adultery is a very narrowly defined term.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Swinging in our opinion is mutually consentual between all parties. If you're playing solo and partner knows and is ok with it, swinging... if your hiding it, you're a cheat."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Swinging in our opinion is mutually consentual between all parties. If you're playing solo and partner knows and is ok with it, swinging... if your hiding it, you're a cheat.

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or a magician

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By *otgirl32Woman over a year ago

Ashton Under Lyne

Speaking of adultery, isn't the whole concept archaic? I mean, WHY do we still cling to monogamy in 2018? Isn't monogamy really quite unnatural? Shouldn't sex be just like having a pint with m8s why is it so taboo?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Speaking of adultery, isn't the whole concept archaic? I mean, WHY do we still cling to monogamy in 2018? Isn't monogamy really quite unnatural? Shouldn't sex be just like having a pint with m8s why is it so taboo? "
It's not, that's why divorce rates so high and relationships that used to last 40/50 years last 10 if your lucky now

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

In a sentence, it's because our culture hasn't cottoned on to the concept of birth control. There's an implicit assuming in our ideas about sex that pregnancy is likely. If that sounds odd then remember that we still have a school calendar that assumes kids won't turn up to school in summer months because they are needed to help with harvest.

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By *ykmwyldTV/TS over a year ago

Belpre

It's cheating, adultery, no matter how you look at it, and your situation has nothing to do with it what so ever. If you disagree, call any attorney you like, he or she will educate you on the legal ramifications of what your doing. My advice is to stop now, have a serious chat with your husband to see if you can resolve the lack of sex situation in your marriage. If not, find out what he will accept and not accept you doing outside the marriage. If he will not accept anything, your only recourse is to stay, or leave. If he proves you've cheated, or even been in a questionable intimate situation with someone, in a court of law, it won't go good for you in many different ways, it's definitely not worth the excitement your getting out of cheating, and you will come to seriously

regret it if you continue. Hope you make the right choices.

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By *s_bettyboopWoman over a year ago

-3

"Cheating cunt

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Swinging is open understood and honest adulterous is secretive and dishonest male

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By *rimson_RoseWoman over a year ago

Tamworth

Adulterer. And arse.

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By *rReyMan over a year ago

Fleet

What happens when a partner (without the others permission) meets another on here (who also doesn't have permission), these two then form a couple on Fab and live the full couple on couple swinging lifestyle (while still having unknowing partners... dun dun dah.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"What happens when a partner (without the others permission) meets another on here (who also doesn't have permission), these two then form a couple on Fab and live the full couple on couple swinging lifestyle (while still having unknowing partners... dun dun dah.

Those people "should" be honest about it then its up to who they meet if its an issue or not. FB couples are a different entity to genuine, long term, open couples. In my opinion. (f)

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By *rimson_RoseWoman over a year ago

Tamworth

I've known it happen. Makes me sad

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple over a year ago

Halifax

I've known it happen. Makes me sad

Me too

We've had couples approach us ,one attached playing away or both.They didn't state on profile ,but iam easily suspicious and it was eventually admitted .

People should be upfront about their situations and respect that there are some people who won't meet cheats ,its even on our profile.

Miss

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By *rReyMan over a year ago

Fleet

I've known it happen. Makes me sad

Me too

We've had couples approach us ,one attached playing away or both.They didn't state on profile ,but iam easily suspicious and it was eventually admitted .

People should be upfront about their situations and respect that there are some people who won't meet cheats ,its even on our profile.

Miss"

When I wrote that I was being theoretical, but not surprised it happens on Fab. I also agree about the honesty but keeping secrets (Or telling lies) can be habit forming for some.

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By *erynaughtyMan over a year ago

Derby

Everyone has a view that makes them righteous but the reality is you only have that perspective because it suits you...it's not right or wrong, it's just someone's choice and those who judge need to look a bit harder at some of the decisions they've made in their life. Get off people's backs, if it's a no from you then just say 'no thanks' and move on...

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By *otgirl32Woman over a year ago

Ashton Under Lyne

"Speaking of adultery, isn't the whole concept archaic? I mean, WHY do we still cling to monogamy in 2018? Isn't monogamy really quite unnatural? Shouldn't sex be just like having a pint with m8s why is it so taboo? It's not, that's why divorce rates so high and relationships that used to last 40/50 years last 10 if your lucky now "

I think relationships lasted that long in the previous generations was because (1) women were more tolerant or had no choice but tolerate their husbands' adultery (2) men (and women) didn't have so much choice available; now that we have the internet, it is so much easier (3) people are a lot less religious now (4) people are living longer and can't see staying "stuck" in a bad relationship for so many more years to come

Like I said, PHYSICAL monogamy is unnatural. However I can see myself married to one man for the rest of my life as long as the option to sexually indulge was open to both.

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By *ynecplCouple over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

I am sure there will be plenty who will disagree but anybody who is married and on Fab without there partners knowledge or consent is an adulterer.

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By *oney to the beeWoman over a year ago

Manchester

Both and a fair few things otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Everyone has a view that makes them righteous but the reality is you only have that perspective because it suits you...it's not right or wrong, it's just someone's choice and those who judge need to look a bit harder at some of the decisions they've made in their life. Get off people's backs, if it's a no from you then just say 'no thanks' and move on..."

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By *rx1Couple over a year ago

North of Okehampton, South of Bideford

To answer the Question yes of course they are an adulterer, but that is there guilt or not to carry around.

Why would we judge them, after all our vowels mentioned to forsake all others until thee...Should we get stoned in the Town Square too? Or should we hide our verifications.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Isn't there a saying - it's not cheating if your partner is watching (plus if your partner is fully aware of what you are up to in my opinion). If you are in a relationship and neither of the above apply you are cheating.

The morals around it are of course unique to each situation as relationships are never black and white.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I am an adulterous lying cheat.

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By *jtravellerWoman over a year ago

surrey

If you’re sneaking behind your partners back , you’re an adulterer/ cheating.

Swinging is consensual amongst all parties ( I include the play partners in that consent. If you’re married/ attached, make that clear to potential play partners . They have the right to know they’re playing with someone who isn’t available for more than play)

Being denied sex isn’t a reason to cheat . Discuss why sex is being withheld, if it can’t be remedied, then ask to get it elsewhere or leave the relationship.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again..."

Just common sense really. Don't try and lump yourselves in with us just because you need a fancy term to justify things to yourself.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"Isn't there a saying - it's not cheating if your partner is watching (plus if your partner is fully aware of what you are up to in my opinion). If you are in a relationship and neither of the above apply you are cheating.

The morals around it are of course unique to each situation as relationships are never black and white.

Morals are not unique to each situation. That's what makes them morals.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The morals around it are of course unique to each situation as relationships are never black and white.

Morals are not unique to each situation. That's what makes them morals. "

Define this universal set of morals please?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"If you’re sneaking behind your partners back , you’re an adulterer/ cheating.

Being denied sex isn’t a reason to cheat . Discuss why sex is being withheld, if it can’t be remedied, then ask to get it elsewhere or leave the relationship. "

100% agree

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

The morals around it are of course unique to each situation as relationships are never black and white.

Morals are not unique to each situation. That's what makes them morals.

Define this universal set of morals please?"

You're welcome to pick from a selection of moral codes. But the thing they have in common is they aren't specific to situations. Philosophy 101 really

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If you’re sneaking behind your partners back , you’re an adulterer/ cheating.

Being denied sex isn’t a reason to cheat . Discuss why sex is being withheld, if it can’t be remedied, then ask to get it elsewhere or leave the relationship. "

Why should they have to leave the relationship? Surely the one who is withholding the sex should have the balls to take the responsibility.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My partner had a hysterectomy about 5 years ago and since then she doesn't enjoy sex. She dosn't know I come on here but does know I meet strangers for sex. So long as I am safe and don't tell her the details she is fine with it going on. Hence why I am discreet.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The morals around it are of course unique to each situation as relationships are never black and white.

Morals are not unique to each situation. That's what makes them morals.

Define this universal set of morals please?

You're welcome to pick from a selection of moral codes. But the thing they have in common is they aren't specific to situations. Philosophy 101 really

There are as many moral codes as there are human beings. And they are constantly changing. Real life cannot be taught in a classroom.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

The morals around it are of course unique to each situation as relationships are never black and white.

Morals are not unique to each situation. That's what makes them morals.

Define this universal set of morals please?

You're welcome to pick from a selection of moral codes. But the thing they have in common is they aren't specific to situations. Philosophy 101 really

There are as many moral codes as there are human beings. And they are constantly changing. Real life cannot be taught in a classroom."

You're just describing post modernism, the most ridiculous view point of them all!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Adulterer. Not an axe murderer as sometimes suggested on here.

And no, I would never knowingly become involved with a married man or woman because I have no desire to become involved in someone else's shit storm.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The morals around it are of course unique to each situation as relationships are never black and white.

Morals are not unique to each situation. That's what makes them morals.

Define this universal set of morals please?

You're welcome to pick from a selection of moral codes. But the thing they have in common is they aren't specific to situations. Philosophy 101 really

There are as many moral codes as there are human beings. And they are constantly changing. Real life cannot be taught in a classroom.

You're just describing post modernism, the most ridiculous view point of them all! "

Ironic

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Look I get where you are coming from so let's not derail an interesting thread

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again...

Just common sense really. Don't try and lump yourselves in with us just because you need a fancy term to justify things to yourself. "

So only couples are allowed fancy terms...

No need for justification... the same as you do not need to justify why you seek sex outside of marriage/relationship...or perhaps you do...so that is why you have your own "fancy term" to allow for non monogamous sex...which coincidentally singles are doing too...having non monogamous sex...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again...

Just common sense really. Don't try and lump yourselves in with us just because you need a fancy term to justify things to yourself. "

So as a swinging couple you only ever meet swinging couples, you never meet singles like me ???

I class myself as a swinger even tho I’m single and enjoy casual sex, usually with couples or group scenarios

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again...

Just common sense really. Don't try and lump yourselves in with us just because you need a fancy term to justify things to yourself.

So as a swinging couple you only ever meet swinging couples, you never meet singles like me ???

I class myself as a swinger even tho I’m single and enjoy casual sex, usually with couples or group scenarios

No we don't meet single women and you may notice our filters reflect this. We do meet people from couples on an individual basis. We like the fact that they have consensual relationships as that's what makes them swingers.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again...

Just common sense really. Don't try and lump yourselves in with us just because you need a fancy term to justify things to yourself.

So as a swinging couple you only ever meet swinging couples, you never meet singles like me ???

I class myself as a swinger even tho I’m single and enjoy casual sex, usually with couples or group scenarios

Plenty of swinging couples meet singles, swinging is a way of life and not just narrowed down to couples only. A lot of the couples on here don’t live together and most aren’t married does that make them less of a couple, I don’t think so........

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again...

Just common sense really. Don't try and lump yourselves in with us just because you need a fancy term to justify things to yourself.

So as a swinging couple you only ever meet swinging couples, you never meet singles like me ???

I class myself as a swinger even tho I’m single and enjoy casual sex, usually with couples or group scenarios

Non monogamous sex with an individual....who would have thought it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again...

Just common sense really. Don't try and lump yourselves in with us just because you need a fancy term to justify things to yourself.

So as a swinging couple you only ever meet swinging couples, you never meet singles like me ???

I class myself as a swinger even tho I’m single and enjoy casual sex, usually with couples or group scenarios

Exactly...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Adulterer here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Adulterer here "

Ooh be careful...you will be shot down in flames by the anti bareback brigade

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again...

Just common sense really. Don't try and lump yourselves in with us just because you need a fancy term to justify things to yourself.

So as a swinging couple you only ever meet swinging couples, you never meet singles like me ???

I class myself as a swinger even tho I’m single and enjoy casual sex, usually with couples or group scenarios

Yes it is a lifestyle, one that requires a partner. No idea what relevance you think the rest of your post has.

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan over a year ago

Coventry

Surely both? Are they not totally different things? Can you not be both? Sexual preference and how faithful/ethical you are to your spouse are separate things. Being a swinger is not about unfaithfulness as cheating is not about swinging. It's perfectly possible to be a swinger and a cheat.

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By *itty9899Man over a year ago

Craggy Island

If married and partner DOES NOT SWING, then you are an adulterer, just using the swing scene so at least you have cover.

if your partner KNOWS whether they partake or not means you're a swinger.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again...

Just common sense really. Don't try and lump yourselves in with us just because you need a fancy term to justify things to yourself.

So as a swinging couple you only ever meet swinging couples, you never meet singles like me ???

I class myself as a swinger even tho I’m single and enjoy casual sex, usually with couples or group scenarios

Yes it is a lifestyle, one that requires a partner. No idea what relevance you think the rest of your post has. "

My point is some people partner someone they’re just good fun friends with making them a couple and swing! A lot on here are like that, you could have had meets with people that are coupled like that! No need to try to patronise me, I’m intitled to an opinion as much as you just because you don’t agree with me doesn’t mean it’s not relevant

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again...

Just common sense really. Don't try and lump yourselves in with us just because you need a fancy term to justify things to yourself.

So as a swinging couple you only ever meet swinging couples, you never meet singles like me ???

I class myself as a swinger even tho I’m single and enjoy casual sex, usually with couples or group scenarios

Yes it is a lifestyle, one that requires a partner. No idea what relevance you think the rest of your post has. "

So...this website...someone started it....why did they even put an option for singles to be members? Single females, single males...according to your own fucking jumped up, self righteous opinion only couples are swingers...so why is there that option????...get over yourselves...it is a lifestyle choice(non monogamous sex)...not a smutty little secret exclusive to couples

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By *aeBabeWoman over a year ago

London

Adulterer.

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By *aeBabeWoman over a year ago

London

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again...

Just common sense really. Don't try and lump yourselves in with us just because you need a fancy term to justify things to yourself.

So as a swinging couple you only ever meet swinging couples, you never meet singles like me ???

I class myself as a swinger even tho I’m single and enjoy casual sex, usually with couples or group scenarios

Yes it is a lifestyle, one that requires a partner. No idea what relevance you think the rest of your post has.

I'm single now but have had some relationships from here. So does that make me a swinger when I'm in a relationship and not when I'm single though having play partners?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again...

Just common sense really. Don't try and lump yourselves in with us just because you need a fancy term to justify things to yourself.

So as a swinging couple you only ever meet swinging couples, you never meet singles like me ???

I class myself as a swinger even tho I’m single and enjoy casual sex, usually with couples or group scenarios

Yes it is a lifestyle, one that requires a partner. No idea what relevance you think the rest of your post has.

I'm single now but have had some relationships from here. So does that make me a swinger when I'm in a relationship and not when I'm single though having play partners?

You are part of the ethically non monogamous lifestyle so you are a swinger, yes. You don't hear me say 'singles can't be swingers' for the reason you stated. But to pretend that singles who wouldn't dream of sharing a partner (the majority on fab) are swingers is intellectually dishonest and an incorrect use of the English language.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again...

Just common sense really. Don't try and lump yourselves in with us just because you need a fancy term to justify things to yourself.

So as a swinging couple you only ever meet swinging couples, you never meet singles like me ???

I class myself as a swinger even tho I’m single and enjoy casual sex, usually with couples or group scenarios

Yes it is a lifestyle, one that requires a partner. No idea what relevance you think the rest of your post has.

No it's just a common sense definition than people on the street would understand. Swingers are a very small proportion of the population. If you asked a bunch of students, they wouldn't tell you they were swingers because they are non-mongamous. Swinging is ethical non-mongamy, the ethical bit meaning that at some point you need a partner or at least be open to sharing your partner. The vast majority of the population would not share their partner and to pretend otherwise is just delusional. Since swinging is such a niche, website like fab allow non swingers because it simply wouldn't be profitable if they didn't.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again...

Just common sense really. Don't try and lump yourselves in with us just because you need a fancy term to justify things to yourself.

So as a swinging couple you only ever meet swinging couples, you never meet singles like me ???

I class myself as a swinger even tho I’m single and enjoy casual sex, usually with couples or group scenarios

Yes it is a lifestyle, one that requires a partner. No idea what relevance you think the rest of your post has.

I'm single now but have had some relationships from here. So does that make me a swinger when I'm in a relationship and not when I'm single though having play partners?

That was good timing was about to say the same.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again...

Just common sense really. Don't try and lump yourselves in with us just because you need a fancy term to justify things to yourself.

So as a swinging couple you only ever meet swinging couples, you never meet singles like me ???

I class myself as a swinger even tho I’m single and enjoy casual sex, usually with couples or group scenarios

Yes it is a lifestyle, one that requires a partner. No idea what relevance you think the rest of your post has.

I'm single now but have had some relationships from here. So does that make me a swinger when I'm in a relationship and not when I'm single though having play partners?

Seems that way my friend

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again...

Just common sense really. Don't try and lump yourselves in with us just because you need a fancy term to justify things to yourself.

So as a swinging couple you only ever meet swinging couples, you never meet singles like me ???

I class myself as a swinger even tho I’m single and enjoy casual sex, usually with couples or group scenarios

Yes it is a lifestyle, one that requires a partner. No idea what relevance you think the rest of your post has.

You are simply repeating yourself, using different terminology...

Swinging is a lifestyle choice...a hobby to call it by another word...the same as others have hobbies...

You are still just proving the "holier than thou" attitude of many couples

Interesting though, that swingers, by way of their lifestyle choice, are deemed to be open minded and non judgemental of others...seems some do uphold these values....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If they are over 18 that's a judgement for them, if they want to cheat that's for them and the thing that's driving them to do it, if you're in a club and a woman is lying on the slab naked and horny beckoning you over to stick your manhood in her do you say are you married what's your name, how old are you and do you smoke are you?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If they are over 18 that's a judgement for them, if they want to cheat that's for them and the thing that's driving them to do it, if you're in a club and a woman is lying on the slab naked and horny beckoning you over to stick your manhood in her do you say are you married what's your name, how old are you and do you smoke are you? "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Exactly. Those that don't meet cheats seem to leave this rule at the door of a club when they walk in. Double standards by many on here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Exactly. Those that don't meet cheats seem to leave this rule at the door of a club when they walk in. Double standards by many on here."
and their glasses

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Exactly. Those that don't meet cheats seem to leave this rule at the door of a club when they walk in. Double standards by many on here."
nice knockers by the way

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I blame brexit

Swinging is a loose definition these days, covers everything from adultery through casual sex, BDSM, any fetish you care to mention, to full on orgies. Hell even naturism is getting wrapped up in it.

So who knows anymore?

Holier than thou couples comment yet again...

Just common sense really. Don't try and lump yourselves in with us just because you need a fancy term to justify things to yourself.

So as a swinging couple you only ever meet swinging couples, you never meet singles like me ???

I class myself as a swinger even tho I’m single and enjoy casual sex, usually with couples or group scenarios

Yes it is a lifestyle, one that requires a partner. No idea what relevance you think the rest of your post has.

You are simply repeating yourself, using different terminology...

Swinging is a lifestyle choice...a hobby to call it by another word...the same as others have hobbies...

You are still just proving the "holier than thou" attitude of many couples

Interesting though, that swingers, by way of their lifestyle choice, are deemed to be open minded and non judgemental of others...seems some do uphold these values...."

It seems you don't actually understand what "holier than thou" means! Nor "judgemental" either. There isn't any logic to anything you are saying so I'm just going to block and ignore