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"We don't meet bi guys at all, but is it wrong for someone to be curious and ask questions? It's seen as more common for women to be bisexual than men, and I'm not sure if this is the case but we have certainly met more women that are bi than men. The reason that the sexes are treated differently in this is that quite simply, they are different. On a biological level they are very different." It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning. That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply. | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. " We have never encountered this at all don't recall any of our single bi male friends mentioning it either...are you possibly being sensitive because people's preferences exclude you? | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. We have never encountered this at all don't recall any of our single bi male friends mentioning it either...are you possibly being sensitive because people's preferences exclude you?" Perhaps the enquirer was a blood donor? | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. We have never encountered this at all don't recall any of our single bi male friends mentioning it either...are you possibly being sensitive because people's preferences exclude you?" I actually encountered this last night on a proper night out, from a straight girl who didn't have any time for me until she found out I was bi from my friend and suddenly was sticking to me the rest of the night because in her own words "oh you're bi, but you surely must prefer guys over girls then!" I'm not being sensitive about people's preferences excluding me on here. Been on long enough to know a thing or two about such stuff on Fab anyway. | |||
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"It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning. That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply. " I was always told that there are no wrong questions! So you want people to know that being bi can mean (and does in your case) that you like both equally, but you don't want them to find out by asking... because it's personal. If you tell people you are bi, you are opening up a personal side that is them naturally open to questions. If you don't want people to be curious and ask questions maybe don't bring up your sexuality? I don't bring up mine, because I don't want to talk to people about who I like to screw. So women feel less threatened by a bi/gay guy - they don't owe you companionship in any way shape or form - but they are being disrespectful if they will only give you the time of day if they see you in a certain way. Entitled would be the word that springs to my mind. | |||
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"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back " That's perfectly logical. You're not okay with cheaters. You'll find many on here would share that sentiment! | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. We have never encountered this at all don't recall any of our single bi male friends mentioning it either...are you possibly being sensitive because people's preferences exclude you? I actually encountered this last night on a proper night out, from a straight girl who didn't have any time for me until she found out I was bi from my friend and suddenly was sticking to me the rest of the night because in her own words "oh you're bi, but you surely must prefer guys over girls then!" I'm not being sensitive about people's preferences excluding me on here. Been on long enough to know a thing or two about such stuff on Fab anyway. " clearly she was a fuckwit...ignorance is rife and people are stupid. Maybe it's an age thing but I have no tolerance for people like that and wouldn't waste my time allowing them to inhabit my space...but then that's probably just me... | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. " Some women just don’t want to meet bi guys. Their choice. I’ve been asked loads of times if I prefer men to women so it’s not just men who get asked. | |||
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"It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning. That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply. I was always told that there are no wrong questions! So you want people to know that being bi can mean (and does in your case) that you like both equally, but you don't want them to find out by asking... because it's personal. If you tell people you are bi, you are opening up a personal side that is them naturally open to questions. If you don't want people to be curious and ask questions maybe don't bring up your sexuality? I don't bring up mine, because I don't want to talk to people about who I like to screw. So women feel less threatened by a bi/gay guy - they don't owe you companionship in any way shape or form - but they are being disrespectful if they will only give you the time of day if they see you in a certain way. Entitled would be the word that springs to my mind. " Which part of "bi" implies a preference or bias towards one side at the expense of the other? Surely that shouldn't have to be something to be made clear? If I told you I'm bi when it comes to for example my favourite desserts (tiramisu and chocolate mousse) would it spring to your mind to ask "yeah, but out of those two which do you prefer more?" Not sure who you're calling entitled here though. | |||
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"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back That's perfectly logical. You're not okay with cheaters. You'll find many on here would share that sentiment! " More not ok with liars to be honest! | |||
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"It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning. That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply. I was always told that there are no wrong questions! So you want people to know that being bi can mean (and does in your case) that you like both equally, but you don't want them to find out by asking... because it's personal. If you tell people you are bi, you are opening up a personal side that is them naturally open to questions. If you don't want people to be curious and ask questions maybe don't bring up your sexuality? I don't bring up mine, because I don't want to talk to people about who I like to screw. So women feel less threatened by a bi/gay guy - they don't owe you companionship in any way shape or form - but they are being disrespectful if they will only give you the time of day if they see you in a certain way. Entitled would be the word that springs to my mind. Which part of "bi" implies a preference or bias towards one side at the expense of the other? Surely that shouldn't have to be something to be made clear? If I told you I'm bi when it comes to for example my favourite desserts (tiramisu and chocolate mousse) would it spring to your mind to ask "yeah, but out of those two which do you prefer more?" Not sure who you're calling entitled here though. " This is why I hate labels and I refuse to be labelled. Just be what you are, why do you have to explain yourself to anyone? I much prefer men, every now and then I’ll have fun with a woman, not sure whether that makes me properly bi or not and to be honest I’m not even that bothered what it makes me. | |||
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" This is why I hate labels and I refuse to be labelled. Just be what you are, why do you have to explain yourself to anyone? I much prefer men, every now and then I’ll have fun with a woman, not sure whether that makes me properly bi or not and to be honest I’m not even that bothered what it makes me. " I agree, but do you get overly offended when you bring up your sexuality and people ask, do you have a preference either way? | |||
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"It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning. That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply. I was always told that there are no wrong questions! So you want people to know that being bi can mean (and does in your case) that you like both equally, but you don't want them to find out by asking... because it's personal. If you tell people you are bi, you are opening up a personal side that is them naturally open to questions. If you don't want people to be curious and ask questions maybe don't bring up your sexuality? I don't bring up mine, because I don't want to talk to people about who I like to screw. So women feel less threatened by a bi/gay guy - they don't owe you companionship in any way shape or form - but they are being disrespectful if they will only give you the time of day if they see you in a certain way. Entitled would be the word that springs to my mind. Which part of "bi" implies a preference or bias towards one side at the expense of the other? Surely that shouldn't have to be something to be made clear? If I told you I'm bi when it comes to for example my favourite desserts (tiramisu and chocolate mousse) would it spring to your mind to ask "yeah, but out of those two which do you prefer more?" Not sure who you're calling entitled here though. This is why I hate labels and I refuse to be labelled. Just be what you are, why do you have to explain yourself to anyone? I much prefer men, every now and then I’ll have fun with a woman, not sure whether that makes me properly bi or not and to be honest I’m not even that bothered what it makes me. " I'm the same mind as you to be honest. Don't like labels never have. See above in one of my comments I explained why I wrote this thread today. It was because of something that happened last night. Usually I never out myself to anyone outside of Fab. Who I do stuff with isn't something to be public gossip material in real life! | |||
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"It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning. That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply. I was always told that there are no wrong questions! So you want people to know that being bi can mean (and does in your case) that you like both equally, but you don't want them to find out by asking... because it's personal. If you tell people you are bi, you are opening up a personal side that is them naturally open to questions. If you don't want people to be curious and ask questions maybe don't bring up your sexuality? I don't bring up mine, because I don't want to talk to people about who I like to screw. So women feel less threatened by a bi/gay guy - they don't owe you companionship in any way shape or form - but they are being disrespectful if they will only give you the time of day if they see you in a certain way. Entitled would be the word that springs to my mind. Which part of "bi" implies a preference or bias towards one side at the expense of the other? Surely that shouldn't have to be something to be made clear? If I told you I'm bi when it comes to for example my favourite desserts (tiramisu and chocolate mousse) would it spring to your mind to ask "yeah, but out of those two which do you prefer more?" Not sure who you're calling entitled here though. This is why I hate labels and I refuse to be labelled. Just be what you are, why do you have to explain yourself to anyone? I much prefer men, every now and then I’ll have fun with a woman, not sure whether that makes me properly bi or not and to be honest I’m not even that bothered what it makes me. I'm the same mind as you to be honest. Don't like labels never have. See above in one of my comments I explained why I wrote this thread today. It was because of something that happened last night. Usually I never out myself to anyone outside of Fab. Who I do stuff with isn't something to be public gossip material in real life! " To be honest I didn’t read all the thread. But I agree. Nobody on here knows anything about my personal life and nobody in my personal life knows anything about here! None of it is anyone’s business as far as I’m concerned. From what I’ve seen on here though there’s a large amount of women who love bi men. What I don’t like though is when someone wants you because you are a particular “thing” for example the thrill of a married woman, or the fact someone is bi etc. For me it’s more the person. | |||
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"It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning. That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply. I was always told that there are no wrong questions! So you want people to know that being bi can mean (and does in your case) that you like both equally, but you don't want them to find out by asking... because it's personal. If you tell people you are bi, you are opening up a personal side that is them naturally open to questions. If you don't want people to be curious and ask questions maybe don't bring up your sexuality? I don't bring up mine, because I don't want to talk to people about who I like to screw. So women feel less threatened by a bi/gay guy - they don't owe you companionship in any way shape or form - but they are being disrespectful if they will only give you the time of day if they see you in a certain way. Entitled would be the word that springs to my mind. Which part of "bi" implies a preference or bias towards one side at the expense of the other? Surely that shouldn't have to be something to be made clear? If I told you I'm bi when it comes to for example my favourite desserts (tiramisu and chocolate mousse) would it spring to your mind to ask "yeah, but out of those two which do you prefer more?" Not sure who you're calling entitled here though. This is why I hate labels and I refuse to be labelled. Just be what you are, why do you have to explain yourself to anyone? I much prefer men, every now and then I’ll have fun with a woman, not sure whether that makes me properly bi or not and to be honest I’m not even that bothered what it makes me. I'm the same mind as you to be honest. Don't like labels never have. See above in one of my comments I explained why I wrote this thread today. It was because of something that happened last night. Usually I never out myself to anyone outside of Fab. Who I do stuff with isn't something to be public gossip material in real life! To be honest I didn’t read all the thread. But I agree. Nobody on here knows anything about my personal life and nobody in my personal life knows anything about here! None of it is anyone’s business as far as I’m concerned. From what I’ve seen on here though there’s a large amount of women who love bi men. What I don’t like though is when someone wants you because you are a particular “thing” for example the thrill of a married woman, or the fact someone is bi etc. For me it’s more the person. " Thank you! I fully agree. But apparently some on here missed the point and are calling me entitled. | |||
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"It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning. That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply. I was always told that there are no wrong questions! So you want people to know that being bi can mean (and does in your case) that you like both equally, but you don't want them to find out by asking... because it's personal. If you tell people you are bi, you are opening up a personal side that is them naturally open to questions. If you don't want people to be curious and ask questions maybe don't bring up your sexuality? I don't bring up mine, because I don't want to talk to people about who I like to screw. So women feel less threatened by a bi/gay guy - they don't owe you companionship in any way shape or form - but they are being disrespectful if they will only give you the time of day if they see you in a certain way. Entitled would be the word that springs to my mind. Which part of "bi" implies a preference or bias towards one side at the expense of the other? Surely that shouldn't have to be something to be made clear? If I told you I'm bi when it comes to for example my favourite desserts (tiramisu and chocolate mousse) would it spring to your mind to ask "yeah, but out of those two which do you prefer more?" Not sure who you're calling entitled here though. This is why I hate labels and I refuse to be labelled. Just be what you are, why do you have to explain yourself to anyone? I much prefer men, every now and then I’ll have fun with a woman, not sure whether that makes me properly bi or not and to be honest I’m not even that bothered what it makes me. I'm the same mind as you to be honest. Don't like labels never have. See above in one of my comments I explained why I wrote this thread today. It was because of something that happened last night. Usually I never out myself to anyone outside of Fab. Who I do stuff with isn't something to be public gossip material in real life! To be honest I didn’t read all the thread. But I agree. Nobody on here knows anything about my personal life and nobody in my personal life knows anything about here! None of it is anyone’s business as far as I’m concerned. From what I’ve seen on here though there’s a large amount of women who love bi men. What I don’t like though is when someone wants you because you are a particular “thing” for example the thrill of a married woman, or the fact someone is bi etc. For me it’s more the person. Thank you! I fully agree. But apparently some on here missed the point and are calling me entitled. " Oh get used to that! | |||
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"We don't meet bi guys at all, but is it wrong for someone to be curious and ask questions?" Surely you mean you don't meet guys who state they are bi. I'd say that it is 100% likely you have met bi guys especially as you go dogging. | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. " I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' | |||
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"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back " WOW I've met, slept with a married man who is Bi.... May I ask is there a difference if he was straight and cheating and why? | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' " Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me? | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me? " No your not. Freedom of choice | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me? " My preference is straight men without a beard because I can’t stand beards and also feminine women. Do excuse my narrow mindedness | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me? " What isn't for you, Bi guys? What's the difference if they were straight or Bi..... I'm trying to understand that mind set and why it matters... I'm here to learn btw! | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me? My preference is straight men without a beard because I can’t stand beards and also feminine women. Do excuse my narrow mindedness " I'm not here for an argument, more trying to understand why the Bi-straight man matters. Interested in why it does for you! I like bi and straight men with beards, even the tv/ts to be fair..... Embracing it all... | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me? What isn't for you, Bi guys? What's the difference if they were straight or Bi..... I'm trying to understand that mind set and why it matters... I'm here to learn btw! " No. I commented earlier. No problem with bi guys at all. Bi guys and me or watching 2 men together isn’t for me no. | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me? My preference is straight men without a beard because I can’t stand beards and also feminine women. Do excuse my narrow mindedness I'm not here for an argument, more trying to understand why the Bi-straight man matters. Interested in why it does for you! I like bi and straight men with beards, even the tv/ts to be fair..... Embracing it all... " No argument at all. Just took your comment as preference is narrow mindedness. If that’s the case I don’t agree. If I took it the wrong way then my apologies. | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me? My preference is straight men without a beard because I can’t stand beards and also feminine women. Do excuse my narrow mindedness I'm not here for an argument, more trying to understand why the Bi-straight man matters. Interested in why it does for you! I like bi and straight men with beards, even the tv/ts to be fair..... Embracing it all... No argument at all. Just took your comment as preference is narrow mindedness. If that’s the case I don’t agree. If I took it the wrong way then my apologies. " Yes I stand by that..... | |||
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"I'm here because my preference is bi men and in my experience most of the men I've become friends with or met have been very alpha! It's like any preference you'll get both dominant and more submissive characters but it has no impact on 'manliness' it's a sad state of affairs when men avoid stating that they're bi for fear of being judged or written off. Best experiences I've had are with bi men.. " I was going to write something like this but you put it so much better than me. The bi guys we play with are very manly. Best way to play for us | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me? What isn't for you, Bi guys? What's the difference if they were straight or Bi..... I'm trying to understand that mind set and why it matters... I'm here to learn btw! No. I commented earlier. No problem with bi guys at all. Bi guys and me or watching 2 men together isn’t for me no. " Pity I still can't get a reason why! Is it that bad you can't say? | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me? My preference is straight men without a beard because I can’t stand beards and also feminine women. Do excuse my narrow mindedness I'm not here for an argument, more trying to understand why the Bi-straight man matters. Interested in why it does for you! I like bi and straight men with beards, even the tv/ts to be fair..... Embracing it all... No argument at all. Just took your comment as preference is narrow mindedness. If that’s the case I don’t agree. If I took it the wrong way then my apologies. Yes I stand by that..... " You stand by preference equals narrow mindedness? Ok. Then we will agree to disagree. | |||
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"I'm here because my preference is bi men and in my experience most of the men I've become friends with or met have been very alpha! It's like any preference you'll get both dominant and more submissive characters but it has no impact on 'manliness' it's a sad state of affairs when men avoid stating that they're bi for fear of being judged or written off. Best experiences I've had are with bi men.. I was going to write something like this but you put it so much better than me. The bi guys we play with are very manly. Best way to play for us " I wrote something similar on a previous thread... The ladies don't know what they're missing! | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me? What isn't for you, Bi guys? What's the difference if they were straight or Bi..... I'm trying to understand that mind set and why it matters... I'm here to learn btw! No. I commented earlier. No problem with bi guys at all. Bi guys and me or watching 2 men together isn’t for me no. Pity I still can't get a reason why! Is it that bad you can't say? " Seriously?? Is what that bad i can’t say? 2 men together doesn’t turn me on at all no! That’s my reason. Same as 2 women together wouldn’t turn a gay man on I wouldn’t have thought. This conversation is getting a bit ridiculous for me. Have a good day. | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me? My preference is straight men without a beard because I can’t stand beards and also feminine women. Do excuse my narrow mindedness I'm not here for an argument, more trying to understand why the Bi-straight man matters. Interested in why it does for you! I like bi and straight men with beards, even the tv/ts to be fair..... Embracing it all... No argument at all. Just took your comment as preference is narrow mindedness. If that’s the case I don’t agree. If I took it the wrong way then my apologies. Yes I stand by that..... You stand by preference equals narrow mindedness? Ok. Then we will agree to disagree. " Can't see it being anything else... unfortunately | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me? What isn't for you, Bi guys? What's the difference if they were straight or Bi..... I'm trying to understand that mind set and why it matters... I'm here to learn btw! No. I commented earlier. No problem with bi guys at all. Bi guys and me or watching 2 men together isn’t for me no. Pity I still can't get a reason why! Is it that bad you can't say? Seriously?? Is what that bad i can’t say? 2 men together doesn’t turn me on at all no! That’s my reason. Same as 2 women together wouldn’t turn a gay man on I wouldn’t have thought. This conversation is getting a bit ridiculous for me. Have a good day. " Bi guys and YOU all my posts are referring too.... Didn't think it'll be a touchy subject to ask why! I'm still learning... Thank you for your time! | |||
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"I'm here because my preference is bi men and in my experience most of the men I've become friends with or met have been very alpha! It's like any preference you'll get both dominant and more submissive characters but it has no impact on 'manliness' it's a sad state of affairs when men avoid stating that they're bi for fear of being judged or written off. Best experiences I've had are with bi men.. I was going to write something like this but you put it so much better than me. The bi guys we play with are very manly. Best way to play for us " Most definitely | |||
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"Personally I hate it when women state on their profiles that they want a 'real' man. " Why they have a choice don't they? Or would you deny people the ability to choose! | |||
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"It's a question, and a harmless one at that. Do you have a preference either way? Some people do, some people don't. I know a number of bi women who say they prefer men if they had to choose. You complain that women only want to give you there time if they see you a certain way, this implies they should give you their time no matter how they see you, otherwise there would be no complaint. This is an entitled opinion. I'm not trying to insult or annoy, as I say we don't consider bi guys for a meet but we have nothing against any sexuality." I can't see why anyone would have a potential meet asking about their preferences. Its no different to asking condom or no condom, come in mouth or on chest, missionary or doggy? It's always better to ask that assume and get it wrong. | |||
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"Personally I hate it when women state on their profiles that they want a 'real' man. Why they have a choice don't they? Or would you deny people the ability to choose! " What is a real man, someone who hammers up dry wall and takes the bins out ? | |||
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"Nobody who has ever met me, vanilla or swing, would ever consider me effeminate or 'not 100% man'. Those close to me would consider me sensitive and in touch with myself and others. I'm a rugby playing former forces man. Emotionally I am only interested in women, have only ever been interested I having a relationship with women. However, I have always been open minded and experimental (read a kinky bugger) and when it comes to having fun have always been willing to try new things. Hence, having tried a few mfm's I was never scared of close contact with other mens bits and, eventually, curiosity got the better of me. I've since found that it is more fun if those involved aren't worrying about who is touching /licking/sucking what. I have never been interested in one to one man fun but would consider myself bi. I clearly prefer women and will happily play without male contact. I always play safe. Ultimately anyone can label me how they choose. I know what I am and those I've played with do. That's all that matters. " This.. | |||
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"Personally I hate it when women state on their profiles that they want a 'real' man. " Surely that’s a whole other discussion. A “real man” may be a misogynistic narrow minded homophobe, yet is sexually incapable of satisfying anyone. Yet what is often perceived as not being a “real man” because they are self aware and don’t Strutt down the street, may be a real Alpha in the bedroom. | |||
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"Personally I hate it when women state on their profiles that they want a 'real' man. Surely that’s a whole other discussion. A “real man” may be a misogynistic narrow minded homophobe, yet is sexually incapable of satisfying anyone. Yet what is often perceived as not being a “real man” because they are self aware and don’t Strutt down the street, may be a real Alpha in the bedroom. " Love the way you put it. Thanks I fully agree! And guys let's get back on track please. | |||
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"Surely it’s personal to women why they don’t want to go with a bi- sexual man, they shouldn’t have to justify it. Sex is mostly played out in the head and if they’re not comfortable being with a bi sexual man, for whatever reason, then that’s there choice. " A lot of women won’t sleep with men who vote Tory, I’ve seen that on profiles too. | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' " I'm very narrow minded. I get even more narrow minded from reading threads like this where people slag off other people for not wanting to fuck someone. It makes me sick when people try and shame others into fucking people that they don't want to. No doubt somewhere on the thread people are being called homophobic for not wanting to fuck bi men. If I don't want to fuck bi men it's because that's my choice. People can call me homophobic all they want - it wouldn't change my mind!! | |||
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"If you are bisexual there is twice the opportunity for fun and the boring hets don't like people having more fun than them! " | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' I'm very narrow minded. I get even more narrow minded from reading threads like this where people slag off other people for not wanting to fuck someone. It makes me sick when people try and shame others into fucking people that they don't want to. No doubt somewhere on the thread people are being called homophobic for not wanting to fuck bi men. If I don't want to fuck bi men it's because that's my choice. People can call me homophobic all they want - it wouldn't change my mind!!" If anyone is doing that shaming it's definitely not me. Feel free to take your diatribe elsewhere. I've had enough people like yourself coming in on a totally different tangent spoiling for an argument on a thread that isn't yours to begin with. Thanks. Now can we please get back to topic? | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' I'm very narrow minded. I get even more narrow minded from reading threads like this where people slag off other people for not wanting to fuck someone. It makes me sick when people try and shame others into fucking people that they don't want to. No doubt somewhere on the thread people are being called homophobic for not wanting to fuck bi men. If I don't want to fuck bi men it's because that's my choice. People can call me homophobic all they want - it wouldn't change my mind!!" It’s not homophobic though. Neither is it narrow mindedness. That’s why I gave up on the whole conversation. If people think like that there’s no reasoning with them and it’s really not worth my time. I honestly despair at some of the things I see on here. | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' I'm very narrow minded. I get even more narrow minded from reading threads like this where people slag off other people for not wanting to fuck someone. It makes me sick when people try and shame others into fucking people that they don't want to. No doubt somewhere on the thread people are being called homophobic for not wanting to fuck bi men. If I don't want to fuck bi men it's because that's my choice. People can call me homophobic all they want - it wouldn't change my mind!! If anyone is doing that shaming it's definitely not me. Feel free to take your diatribe elsewhere. I've had enough people like yourself coming in on a totally different tangent spoiling for an argument on a thread that isn't yours to begin with. Thanks. Now can we please get back to topic? " Sorry I just replied to that. I’m off now | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. I love Bi men... I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x Its all fabulous to me! I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' I'm very narrow minded. I get even more narrow minded from reading threads like this where people slag off other people for not wanting to fuck someone. It makes me sick when people try and shame others into fucking people that they don't want to. No doubt somewhere on the thread people are being called homophobic for not wanting to fuck bi men. If I don't want to fuck bi men it's because that's my choice. People can call me homophobic all they want - it wouldn't change my mind!! If anyone is doing that shaming it's definitely not me. Feel free to take your diatribe elsewhere. I've had enough people like yourself coming in on a totally different tangent spoiling for an argument on a thread that isn't yours to begin with. Thanks. Now can we please get back to topic? " Your reaction tells me everything I need to know about you and your type. I apologise to the bottom of my heart for having an opinion. | |||
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"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it. I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why! No problem! No drama! " Sorry it was a comment from things that have been said on previous threads. I didn't mean you'd inferred that. x | |||
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"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it. I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why! No problem! No drama! Sorry it was a comment from things that have been said on previous threads. I didn't mean you'd inferred that. x" Thank you x | |||
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" Your reaction tells me everything I need to know about you and your type. I apologise to the bottom of my heart for having an opinion. " Me and my type? ME AND MY TYPE?! What about it?! Reading through my entire starting questions for this thread, NOTHING has been mentioned about how I as a bisexual single male am giving shit to others like you and YOUR TYPE for not choosing to fuck us because you don't like bi guys. All I asked was why is it that some girls on Fab or in real life only find it in themselves to interact with or be interested in bisexual men only after they say they're more inclined towards men? That's the basis of why I didn't like it when for example last night this random straight girl at a club who didn't have time of the day for me or my friend initially suddenly couldn't peel herself off me on the dance floor after finding out from my friend that I'm bi, simply because she thought automatically that just because I'm a bi man it means I'm going to be more into men then women? And before anyone accuses me of jumping to conclusions, she asked me repeatedly "so you're bi, but you must prefer men more than women right?" And the second question was pertaining to how some people in real life as well as on Fab that I've encountered have the perception that a bisexual man must somehow be less masculine simply because they probably have given oral or received anal from another guy? AT NO POINT WAS IT MENTIONED BY ME THAT I WAS UNHAPPY ABOUT NOT GETTING ANY FUN FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO BE WITH BISEXUAL MEN. I'M NOT ENTITLED. NOBODY IS. I wouldn't push my luck with a profile on here that said "NO BI MALES". I'm not an idiot. I don't know at which point in this whole thread this whole argument started about people supposedly bashing folks who aren't open towards getting into bed with bisexual people came about. But I didn't start it. If you have problems with that go find whoever wrote that on my thread first and take your arguments there. In the meantime, please stay on topic! | |||
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" Your reaction tells me everything I need to know about you and your type. I apologise to the bottom of my heart for having an opinion. Me and my type? ME AND MY TYPE?! What about it?! Reading through my entire starting questions for this thread, NOTHING has been mentioned about how I as a bisexual single male am giving shit to others like you and YOUR TYPE for not choosing to fuck us because you don't like bi guys. All I asked was why is it that some girls on Fab or in real life only find it in themselves to interact with or be interested in bisexual men only after they say they're more inclined towards men? That's the basis of why I didn't like it when for example last night this random straight girl at a club who didn't have time of the day for me or my friend initially suddenly couldn't peel herself off me on the dance floor after finding out from my friend that I'm bi, simply because she thought automatically that just because I'm a bi man it means I'm going to be more into men then women? And before anyone accuses me of jumping to conclusions, she asked me repeatedly "so you're bi, but you must prefer men more than women right?" And the second question was pertaining to how some people in real life as well as on Fab that I've encountered have the perception that a bisexual man must somehow be less masculine simply because they probably have given oral or received anal from another guy? AT NO POINT WAS IT MENTIONED BY ME THAT I WAS UNHAPPY ABOUT NOT GETTING ANY FUN FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO BE WITH BISEXUAL MEN. I'M NOT ENTITLED. NOBODY IS. I wouldn't push my luck with a profile on here that said "NO BI MALES". I'm not an idiot. I don't know at which point in this whole thread this whole argument started about people supposedly bashing folks who aren't open towards getting into bed with bisexual people came about. But I didn't start it. If you have problems with that go find whoever wrote that on my thread first and take your arguments there. In the meantime, please stay on topic! " Sounds like the woman at the club saw you as a challenge. The usual 'if he's bi he prefers men and only fucks women so he can pretend he's not gay' type of thinking. So like she was trying to get off with you to somehow prove what an amazing woman she is to 'make a gay man want to fuck a woman'. Or she may have actually fancied the arse off you- give yourself some credit. The question about some people finding bi men less masculine is just one of those things. Some people think that men who express their feelings aren't masculine. My point (genuine apology for being a twat earlier, sorry) was that people can think whatever they want. We may not understand it, it just is. Some people may think men fucking other men is really masculine and horny as fuck. In your OP you said "Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out." I'm angry that you feel this way, I'm not angry at you personally. Hence my angry earlier post- again apologies. I hate it when people try and shame others for their preferences. I mean the people making YOU feel shit for being bi. | |||
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" Sounds like the woman at the club saw you as a challenge. The usual 'if he's bi he prefers men and only fucks women so he can pretend he's not gay' type of thinking. So like she was trying to get off with you to somehow prove what an amazing woman she is to 'make a gay man want to fuck a woman'. Or she may have actually fancied the arse off you- give yourself some credit. The question about some people finding bi men less masculine is just one of those things. Some people think that men who express their feelings aren't masculine. My point (genuine apology for being a twat earlier, sorry) was that people can think whatever they want. We may not understand it, it just is. Some people may think men fucking other men is really masculine and horny as fuck. In your OP you said "Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out." I'm angry that you feel this way, I'm not angry at you personally. Hence my angry earlier post- again apologies. I hate it when people try and shame others for their preferences. I mean the people making YOU feel shit for being bi. " Apology accepted. | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. " So you expect people to understand you on sight but get offended if they ask questions on the bits they arent clear on. That's not Bi straight or gay, it's just too pre ious. | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. So you expect people to understand you on sight but get offended if they ask questions on the bits they arent clear on. That's not Bi straight or gay, it's just too pre ious. " one more who didn't get it. Oh well. Next! | |||
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"Not gonna lie id never entertain a bi man i do feel hes not as masculine! But thats me we all have our personal views " What’s less masculine about being bi? What IS masculine? For example I’m good at DIY, I work on my own cars, I watch football and rugby, I don’t have any effeminate traits. I love beer and whisky. I don’t read instruction manuals. | |||
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"Not gonna lie id never entertain a bi man i do feel hes not as masculine! But thats me we all have our personal views What’s less masculine about being bi? What IS masculine? For example I’m good at DIY, I work on my own cars, I watch football and rugby, I don’t have any effeminate traits. I love beer and whisky. I don’t read instruction manuals. " Ooh, I see you like to live life dangerously... you don't read instruction manuals? Ikea beckons! | |||
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" Ooh, I see you like to live life dangerously... you don't read instruction manuals? Ikea beckons! " Admit it , you're only going for the soft furnishings and candles . | |||
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" Ooh, I see you like to live life dangerously... you don't read instruction manuals? Ikea beckons! Admit it , you're only going for the soft furnishings and candles . " Nope I’m that masculine that I only sit on hard surfaces haha. | |||
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" Ooh, I see you like to live life dangerously... you don't read instruction manuals? Ikea beckons! Admit it , you're only going for the soft furnishings and candles . " Wait... who... me? W-w-what's wrong with soft furnishings, fluffy blankets and candles? Okay, I don't actually go for candles, but I do find Ikea storage shelves and tables insanely useful. | |||
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" Ooh, I see you like to live life dangerously... you don't read instruction manuals? Ikea beckons! Admit it , you're only going for the soft furnishings and candles . Wait... who... me? W-w-what's wrong with soft furnishings, fluffy blankets and candles? Okay, I don't actually go for candles, but I do find Ikea storage shelves and tables insanely useful. " Same. I get a little bit aroused going the wrong way around the 1 way system too. | |||
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"OP just do what all the other guys do and put straight on your profile. You can fuck as many blokes, women and trans as you want then and the women think you're straight. HAHA" this is so very true ide say 95% of men who shag me all straight married !! | |||
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" Same. I get a little bit aroused going the wrong way around the 1 way system too. " Is that a double entendre ? | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. " That's a good point I'm bi & get looked down at by men & women ,but hey that's there issue not mine I'm happy with who I am & I just avoid the negative people around | |||
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"When I read that bi men will deliberately lie about their sexuality so that they can get a fuck, I wonder what else they can lie about. "I promise I'm not riddled with STI's." "I will only fuck the wife, I won't try and touch the husband's cock." "Of course I'll stop if you ask me to." " Lying isn't just restricted to bi men who can't out themselves even in the swinging community because of the stigma attached. Could say the same for those who are swinging by cheating in their marriages too. "I haven't been honest with my partner about me wanting to swing or have sex with someone else other than them. But you can trust me to be honest that I don't have any STIs from all the cheating I've done." "I'll only fuck the husband/wife in question. I won't try to tempt him/her outside of a threesome meet between us all to meet up with me and cheat on you as well." "Of course I'll take all responsibility if my partner finds out that I'm cheating on him/her with you swinging lot!" | |||
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"When I read that bi men will deliberately lie about their sexuality so that they can get a fuck, I wonder what else they can lie about. "I promise I'm not riddled with STI's." "I will only fuck the wife, I won't try and touch the husband's cock." "Of course I'll stop if you ask me to." Lying isn't just restricted to bi men who can't out themselves even in the swinging community because of the stigma attached. Could say the same for those who are swinging by cheating in their marriages too. "I haven't been honest with my partner about me wanting to swing or have sex with someone else other than them. But you can trust me to be honest that I don't have any STIs from all the cheating I've done." "I'll only fuck the husband/wife in question. I won't try to tempt him/her outside of a threesome meet between us all to meet up with me and cheat on you as well." "Of course I'll take all responsibility if my partner finds out that I'm cheating on him/her with you swinging lot!" " Very true. | |||
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"I do not get it? Do not think anyone gets looked down upon because of their sexuality. All people here that met respect all others. If a man or woman bi, great. I like fab because get to talk people of all genders and sexualities. If anyone disrespects this should be kicked off site. We state that prefer straight men because it our prefetence. Not because we have anything against. Just like to have fun with people that match our sexuality." It's not about your preference for straight men over bi men that's an issue here don't worry. The issue I had is why some people somehow feel the need to ask bi guys like myself if we still have a preference for men over women or vice versa, in a manner that is clearly fishing for the right answer (aka "oh, I'm bi but I prefer men" for the single women looking not to get one extra male mobber for their body in bed, or "oh I'm bi but I prefer women" for the couple seeking a threesome with said bi man). I'm just puzzled why a label such as "bisexual" can somehow still entail a skewed preference for either male or female, when the textbook definition of anything that's "bi" is an even 50/50 split. Hope this clarifies for you. | |||
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"We were discussing this the other day as Jon is orally bi and we have had messages to say that we are not suitable as Jon likes to suck cock..... like he is unable to control himself around a guy!! Ha ha!!! We both enjoy the sexual form of male and females, I do not want a relationship with a female and Jon does not a male. We enjoy sex and the touching and sucking of a hard cock in its pure sexual form just the same as we enjoy licking and caressing a beautiful pussy/breasts on a lady. We are not the type of people to pounce on someone or push them out of their comfort zone. If you are fully bi great, we will set our boundaries before a meet for male and female. Its just the same as we don't like pee, pain or poo but don't judge if someone does we would just set out our boundaries with the couple first. Stop being judgy and just say what you are willing and not willing to do. Men can resist pouncing on men just the same as women can resist pouncing in women. I think personally you are more of a man/woman to appreciate the human form and enjoy them as you so wish and with the blessing of the person you are with and not have to live your life hiding your true self! Rant over Jayne! Xx " Thank you for this! I think your answer gets down to the crux of the matter very well. I have no idea where the whole stereotype of bisexual men being unable to respect limits or aiming to jump on all guys they come across came from. Speaking for myself that certainly is not the case! | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. " First up OP as an openly bisexual male I've not experienced ANY of what you describe - yes I've come across profiles that won't meet bi males and when I do I just shrug and move on. Secondly, having read through the thread, I do think you are being a little over-sensitive and as someone else pointed out precious about some of this - if people ask questions about your sexuality, as a means to find out more about you, and possibly get a better understanding for themselves, then surely that's a good thing? I know for sure that if someone asked me if I preferred men over women I'd not be in the slightest bit offended, but would enjoy discussing the topic with them. Yes, it sounds like the person last night was possibly a little presumptuous, but is it really that big a deal? Yes, there are those about with very old school pre-conceived ideas about bisexual men, but I'd say they are in the minority, and surely one way to address that misconception is by being open to discussing it with them rather than throwing your toys out of the pram because someone doesn't know or understand? As for your assertion that bisexual single men are "whitewashed out by so much of Fab" I think you're very wide of the mark, in fact my experience is there are just as many, if not more, people who actively seek bi guys as there are those that won't meet them | |||
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"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back WOW I've met, slept with a married man who is Bi.... May I ask is there a difference if he was straight and cheating and why? " Because I don't like liars and cheating is bad enough but have been through it with a friend who's husband not only cheated on her but with guys and it very nearly destroyed her ... it just meant that the lies were seemingly much worse and her sense of failure was palpable | |||
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"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back WOW I've met, slept with a married man who is Bi.... May I ask is there a difference if he was straight and cheating and why? Because I don't like liars and cheating is bad enough but have been through it with a friend who's husband not only cheated on her but with guys and it very nearly destroyed her ... it just meant that the lies were seemingly much worse and her sense of failure was palpable " Why did it make it worse that he cheated with a male than a female? | |||
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"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back WOW I've met, slept with a married man who is Bi.... May I ask is there a difference if he was straight and cheating and why? Because I don't like liars and cheating is bad enough but have been through it with a friend who's husband not only cheated on her but with guys and it very nearly destroyed her ... it just meant that the lies were seemingly much worse and her sense of failure was palpable Why did it make it worse that he cheated with a male than a female?" It's the ego crushing. Bad enough for your ego to be crushed from your partner cheating on you. It's even worse when they cheat on you with someone of the opposite sex from you; it puts your entire self and sexual worth and image right into the bin! Try imagining having a girlfriend, then finding out she cheated on you with another girl on a night out and that she told you that the girl knew how to please her better in bed than you with a cock. | |||
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"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back WOW I've met, slept with a married man who is Bi.... May I ask is there a difference if he was straight and cheating and why? Because I don't like liars and cheating is bad enough but have been through it with a friend who's husband not only cheated on her but with guys and it very nearly destroyed her ... it just meant that the lies were seemingly much worse and her sense of failure was palpable Why did it make it worse that he cheated with a male than a female? It's the ego crushing. Bad enough for your ego to be crushed from your partner cheating on you. It's even worse when they cheat on you with someone of the opposite sex from you; it puts your entire self and sexual worth and image right into the bin! Try imagining having a girlfriend, then finding out she cheated on you with another girl on a night out and that she told you that the girl knew how to please her better in bed than you with a cock. " That would be great lol | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. " Read your first line n thought,boohoo,woe is me,nobody meets bi guys. Get over yourself,there's someone for everyone on fab,not everyone for someone,no matter what your sexual orientation | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. Read your first line n thought,boohoo,woe is me,nobody meets bi guys. Get over yourself,there's someone for everyone on fab,not everyone for someone,no matter what your sexual orientation" If you read through the entire thread up to the point you wrote your ignorant comment and still could come to the conclusion that I'm doing as you said, "boohoo woe is me" nonsense, then I'm sorry, you clearly failed at reading comprehension. Way to miss the point again. The queue gets longer. NEXT! | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. So you expect people to understand you on sight but get offended if they ask questions on the bits they arent clear on. That's not Bi straight or gay, it's just too pre ious. one more who didn't get it. Oh well. Next! " Well if you're going to be smart about it, it looks like you're the one not getting it. | |||
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"Im a tranny but im not attracted to men at all but alnost every guy online or in person assumes cause ur a tranny that you are and some even dont care when I tell them.outstraight that im not into guys, they still just treat me like must be and that im.kinding myself. Some men.have no respect for anyone which is veey sad." Why not block single men from messaging you? | |||
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"Its not just online but I get your point,but if I.block.all.men. then.I cannot chat with some friends of mine, its not all.men.thst are assholes lol" If you set your message filter right now to block all single men, your friends and basically any men who have messaged you before in the past CAN still message and contact you. So you won't be losing touch with them! The message filter only applies after you activate it. | |||
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"It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning. That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply. I was always told that there are no wrong questions! So you want people to know that being bi can mean (and does in your case) that you like both equally, but you don't want them to find out by asking... because it's personal. If you tell people you are bi, you are opening up a personal side that is them naturally open to questions. If you don't want people to be curious and ask questions maybe don't bring up your sexuality? I don't bring up mine, because I don't want to talk to people about who I like to screw. So women feel less threatened by a bi/gay guy - they don't owe you companionship in any way shape or form - but they are being disrespectful if they will only give you the time of day if they see you in a certain way. Entitled would be the word that springs to my mind. Which part of "bi" implies a preference or bias towards one side at the expense of the other? Surely that shouldn't have to be something to be made clear? If I told you I'm bi when it comes to for example my favourite desserts (tiramisu and chocolate mousse) would it spring to your mind to ask "yeah, but out of those two which do you prefer more?" Not sure who you're calling entitled here though. " Honestly, “What’s your favourite?” would be the first question that sprung to mind - other than “Why are you describing yourself as bi when it comes to desserts?” | |||
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"I am a doorman in clubs that is a manly job by I am bi as well and in life I have had people think that I am soft due to being bi how is that " Because all Bi Men are really just flamboyant gay men too scared to commit, you know, unlike Bi Women, they're totally not lezzers too scared to pick a side, they're just proud women enjoying their sexuality. Bi men are also riddled with STIs even though stats wise Swingers are on the same risk level. | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. " We’ve met and played with as many bi guys as straight guys . Every one of the bi guys we’ve met has said he’s more into women than men , and maybe that’s because I’m not bi , I don’t know but it’s true . Even when we’ve been at dogging and cottaging sites where bi guys are the main people there , it’s the same story . Of course there are gay guys who never play with my wife , but the bi guys are always assuring us that they prefer women . As to whether being bi makes you less of an alpha male . I wouldn’t say so at all . So many builders , truckers , doormen , and very typical alpha males are bi so that’s not the case at all . | |||
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"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it. I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why! No problem! No drama! Perhaps she is a blood donor?" What does it mean sweetheart, please educate me! Does it make a difference when practicing safe sex? | |||
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"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it. I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why! No problem! No drama! Perhaps she is a blood donor?" Oh and why talk to me on here if you've already blocked me sweetcheeks! | |||
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"I am a doorman in clubs that is a manly job by I am bi as well and in life I have had people think that I am soft due to being bi how is that Because all Bi Men are really just flamboyant gay men too scared to commit, you know, unlike Bi Women, they're totally not lezzers too scared to pick a side, they're just proud women enjoying their sexuality. Bi men are also riddled with STIs even though stats wise Swingers are on the same risk level. " Don’t ya just love a bit of stereotypes | |||
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"Generally bi men are stigmatized as being exposed to HIV like gay men, which is ridiculous in this day and age. This girl loves bi men (preferably in pairs!) x" xx thought I'd never hear from you again! You got mail. | |||
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"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it. I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why! No problem! No drama! Perhaps she is a blood donor? What does it mean sweetheart, please educate me! Does it make a difference when practicing safe sex? " If you're a blood donor and have had sex (safe or otherwise) with someone who is in a "high risk" group (which includes bi/gay men) within the last three months you can't give blood | |||
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"Generally bi men are stigmatized as being exposed to HIV like gay men, which is ridiculous in this day and age. This girl loves bi men (preferably in pairs!) x" Hi | |||
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"Generally bi men are stigmatized as being exposed to HIV like gay men, which is ridiculous in this day and age. This girl loves bi men (preferably in pairs!) x Hi " Need a third? | |||
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"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back WOW I've met, slept with a married man who is Bi.... May I ask is there a difference if he was straight and cheating and why? Because I don't like liars and cheating is bad enough but have been through it with a friend who's husband not only cheated on her but with guys and it very nearly destroyed her ... it just meant that the lies were seemingly much worse and her sense of failure was palpable Why did it make it worse that he cheated with a male than a female?" Her feelings and think that the lies just seemed worse to her ... let's face it cheating with a woman is one lie being bi and not telling her is just more lies! Made her feel totally inadequate in probably every way! It ended horrifically | |||
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"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back WOW I've met, slept with a married man who is Bi.... May I ask is there a difference if he was straight and cheating and why? Because I don't like liars and cheating is bad enough but have been through it with a friend who's husband not only cheated on her but with guys and it very nearly destroyed her ... it just meant that the lies were seemingly much worse and her sense of failure was palpable Why did it make it worse that he cheated with a male than a female? It's the ego crushing. Bad enough for your ego to be crushed from your partner cheating on you. It's even worse when they cheat on you with someone of the opposite sex from you; it puts your entire self and sexual worth and image right into the bin! Try imagining having a girlfriend, then finding out she cheated on you with another girl on a night out and that she told you that the girl knew how to please her better in bed than you with a cock. " This | |||
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"The point that seems to be missing here are personal feelings which have no wrong or right and really we should we ever criticise a person's feelings? Just because we are all on a site where a lot of people cheat, whether this is deemed wrong or right isn't always the issue ... there is always someone else involved (whether at this point they know or not) and their feelings are innocent and should always be taken into consideration. To find out that the person you have chosen to spend your time with has lied to you about their sexuality must be very difficult and even worse if you find out via cheating " There's a lot going on. There is fidelity, emotion and plain old fashion lust.. It can get complex and shitty quick, it can also be brilliant. Guess you're right it's about being up front about it | |||
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"The point that seems to be missing here are personal feelings which have no wrong or right and really we should we ever criticise a person's feelings? Just because we are all on a site where a lot of people cheat, whether this is deemed wrong or right isn't always the issue ... there is always someone else involved (whether at this point they know or not) and their feelings are innocent and should always be taken into consideration. To find out that the person you have chosen to spend your time with has lied to you about their sexuality must be very difficult and even worse if you find out via cheating There's a lot going on. There is fidelity, emotion and plain old fashion lust.. It can get complex and shitty quick, it can also be brilliant. Guess you're right it's about being up front about it" though usually only brilliant for one party | |||
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"The point that seems to be missing here are personal feelings which have no wrong or right and really we should we ever criticise a person's feelings? Just because we are all on a site where a lot of people cheat, whether this is deemed wrong or right isn't always the issue ... there is always someone else involved (whether at this point they know or not) and their feelings are innocent and should always be taken into consideration. To find out that the person you have chosen to spend your time with has lied to you about their sexuality must be very difficult and even worse if you find out via cheating There's a lot going on. There is fidelity, emotion and plain old fashion lust.. It can get complex and shitty quick, it can also be brilliant. Guess you're right it's about being up front about it though usually only brilliant for one party " Oh I meant to say that if you were single or if your partner was not bothered by it. But no you're right about being in a relationship and all that | |||
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"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it. I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why! No problem! No drama! Perhaps she is a blood donor? What does it mean sweetheart, please educate me! Does it make a difference when practicing safe sex? If you're a blood donor and have had sex (safe or otherwise) with someone who is in a "high risk" group (which includes bi/gay men) within the last three months you can't give blood " I thought it was M to M only! Not fems with bi men. | |||
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"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it. I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why! No problem! No drama! Perhaps she is a blood donor? What does it mean sweetheart, please educate me! Does it make a difference when practicing safe sex? If you're a blood donor and have had sex (safe or otherwise) with someone who is in a "high risk" group (which includes bi/gay men) within the last three months you can't give blood I thought it was M to M only! Not fems with bi men. " By default having sex with a man who has had sex with a man would mean having had sex with someone in a high risk group - which as detailed in the following from the Blood Donor website would preclude someone from giving blood unless 3 months had passed: "Subject to meeting the other donation rules, men who have had specific sexual activity with another man; commercial sex workers and people who have sex with partners in groups known to have a high risk of having an infection that could be passed on during sex (high risk partners) are now able to donate after three months have passed since that sexual activity." | |||
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"The point that seems to be missing here are personal feelings which have no wrong or right and really we should we ever criticise a person's feelings? Just because we are all on a site where a lot of people cheat, whether this is deemed wrong or right isn't always the issue ... there is always someone else involved (whether at this point they know or not) and their feelings are innocent and should always be taken into consideration. To find out that the person you have chosen to spend your time with has lied to you about their sexuality must be very difficult and even worse if you find out via cheating " | |||
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"and people who have sex with partners in groups known to have a high risk of having an infection that could be passed on during sex (high risk partners) are now able to donate after three months have passed since that sexual activity."" Aka, Swingers, so all if you claiming that Bi Men are the ones in the high risk category should look in the mirror as you're there too! | |||
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"and people who have sex with partners in groups known to have a high risk of having an infection that could be passed on during sex (high risk partners) are now able to donate after three months have passed since that sexual activity." Aka, Swingers, so all if you claiming that Bi Men are the ones in the high risk category should look in the mirror as you're there too! " It's a little more subjective unfortunately - the clear cut guidelines state: "You must not give blood or platelets for at least 3 months after sex (even if you used a condom or other protective) with... (If you are a man) a man who, in the last 3 months has had oral or anal sex with another man (even if you used a condom or other protective). (If you are a woman) a man who has ever had oral or anal sex with another man, even if they used a condom or other protective. There are exceptions, so please check. A partner who is, or you think may be: HIV positive A hepatitis B carrier A hepatitis C carrier HTLV positive Syphilis positive A partner who has ever received money or drugs for sex. A partner who has ever injected, or been injected with, drugs - even a long time ago or only once. This includes body-building drugs and injectable tanning agents. You may be able to give if a doctor prescribed the drugs. Please check with us to make sure. A partner who has, or you think may have been, sexually active in parts of the world where HIV/ AIDS is very common. This includes most countries in Africa. There are exceptions, so please check with us to make sure." As far as I know the Blood Donation Centres don't ask how promiscuous people are so will only use the above questions and rule you out based on them so although swingers and young heterosexual sexually active people are considered "higher risk" they're not ruled out based on that. | |||
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"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it. I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why! No problem! No drama! Perhaps she is a blood donor? What does it mean sweetheart, please educate me! Does it make a difference when practicing safe sex? If you're a blood donor and have had sex (safe or otherwise) with someone who is in a "high risk" group (which includes bi/gay men) within the last three months you can't give blood I thought it was M to M only! Not fems with bi men. By default having sex with a man who has had sex with a man would mean having had sex with someone in a high risk group - which as detailed in the following from the Blood Donor website would preclude someone from giving blood unless 3 months had passed: "Subject to meeting the other donation rules, men who have had specific sexual activity with another man; commercial sex workers and people who have sex with partners in groups known to have a high risk of having an infection that could be passed on during sex (high risk partners) are now able to donate after three months have passed since that sexual activity."" Thank you for going to that trouble of letting me know. I've been on the wrong websites that don't give you the full details. Thank you again. | |||
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"I do not get it? Do not think anyone gets looked down upon because of their sexuality. All people here that met respect all others. If a man or woman bi, great. I like fab because get to talk people of all genders and sexualities. If anyone disrespects this should be kicked off site. We state that prefer straight men because it our prefetence. Not because we have anything against. Just like to have fun with people that match our sexuality. It's not about your preference for straight men over bi men that's an issue here don't worry. The issue I had is why some people somehow feel the need to ask bi guys like myself if we still have a preference for men over women or vice versa, in a manner that is clearly fishing for the right answer (aka "oh, I'm bi but I prefer men" for the single women looking not to get one extra male mobber for their body in bed, or "oh I'm bi but I prefer women" for the couple seeking a threesome with said bi man). I'm just puzzled why a label such as "bisexual" can somehow still entail a skewed preference for either male or female, when the textbook definition of anything that's "bi" is an even 50/50 split. Hope this clarifies for you. " As a bisexual woman I disagree. While it may be a 50/50 split for yourself that is not the case for myself or many of my other bisexual identifying friends. Sexuality is a lot more complex than that and very much a spectrum. Personally I am physically sexually attracted a lot more to women than men. However I am more romantically attracted to men. I have slept with more men than women though but that is mostly as male sexual partners are a lot easier to come by then female. However I do agree with you that the assumption that bisexual men are just "secretly gay" and prefer men is pretty offensive. I mean it doesn't make sense for starters as identifying as bisexual opens you up to a lot of prejudice anyway and a lot of gay people won't sleep with bisexual people so I don't see how pretending to be bisexual when you are really gay makes things any easier for you. I don't think that asking if you have a preference either way is offensive as a lot of us do and some people are just genuinely interested in how each individual's sexuality works but people shouldn't assume a natural preference either way. As for bisexual men being less manly, that's just rediculous. I spent a year in a relationship with and the submissive of a bisexual man and I have dated heterosexual men who were far less masculine and dominant than he was. Hell, I know gay men who are hypermasculinity personified haha. | |||
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"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it. I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why! No problem! No drama! Perhaps she is a blood donor? What does it mean sweetheart, please educate me! Does it make a difference when practicing safe sex? If you're a blood donor and have had sex (safe or otherwise) with someone who is in a "high risk" group (which includes bi/gay men) within the last three months you can't give blood I thought it was M to M only! Not fems with bi men. " Sadly not. I had a bisexual boyfriend back when the rules were even worse. I was prevented from giving blood for a year after we split up even though he hadn't slept with another man since before we met. The rules have been improved since then but I still think they're kind of out of touch. The fact that a monogamous gay male couple practicing safe sex will be prevented from giving blood but a heterosexual person having unprotected sex with multiple partners of unknown status won't be kind of says it all really. | |||
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"Not gonna lie id never entertain a bi man i do feel hes not as masculine! But thats me we all have our personal views " Other people's mileage may vary - the odds are you've met loads of bi guys and discounted the possibility that they are bi because they are 'too masculine to be bi...' | |||
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"I do not get it? Do not think anyone gets looked down upon because of their sexuality. All people here that met respect all others. If a man or woman bi, great. I like fab because get to talk people of all genders and sexualities. If anyone disrespects this should be kicked off site. We state that prefer straight men because it our prefetence. Not because we have anything against. Just like to have fun with people that match our sexuality. It's not about your preference for straight men over bi men that's an issue here don't worry. The issue I had is why some people somehow feel the need to ask bi guys like myself if we still have a preference for men over women or vice versa, in a manner that is clearly fishing for the right answer (aka "oh, I'm bi but I prefer men" for the single women looking not to get one extra male mobber for their body in bed, or "oh I'm bi but I prefer women" for the couple seeking a threesome with said bi man). I'm just puzzled why a label such as "bisexual" can somehow still entail a skewed preference for either male or female, when the textbook definition of anything that's "bi" is an even 50/50 split. Hope this clarifies for you. As a bisexual woman I disagree. While it may be a 50/50 split for yourself that is not the case for myself or many of my other bisexual identifying friends. Sexuality is a lot more complex than that and very much a spectrum. Personally I am physically sexually attracted a lot more to women than men. However I am more romantically attracted to men. I have slept with more men than women though but that is mostly as male sexual partners are a lot easier to come by then female. However I do agree with you that the assumption that bisexual men are just "secretly gay" and prefer men is pretty offensive. I mean it doesn't make sense for starters as identifying as bisexual opens you up to a lot of prejudice anyway and a lot of gay people won't sleep with bisexual people so I don't see how pretending to be bisexual when you are really gay makes things any easier for you. I don't think that asking if you have a preference either way is offensive as a lot of us do and some people are just genuinely interested in how each individual's sexuality works but people shouldn't assume a natural preference either way. As for bisexual men being less manly, that's just rediculous. I spent a year in a relationship with and the submissive of a bisexual man and I have dated heterosexual men who were far less masculine and dominant than he was. Hell, I know gay men who are hypermasculinity personified haha." Hypermasculine gay men were one feature of my rather over active sex life in my twenties lol, and most of them were poor christians who believed it was better to receive than give when the chips were down..... However, I'm not convinced that my ability to be a dominant is about my masculinity - it's about my ability to empathize and then to assert myself in relationship to the other part of our particular tag team, and the fact that she can submit to some women is a constant reminder to me that gender isn't what makes me her preferred dominant.... | |||
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"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females? I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men? Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women? Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. " I prefer bi guys I find bi and gay guys often look after themselves better and are frequently more manly. Straight guys can be so dull. | |||
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