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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

How easy is it to catch an STI from oral. I know sounds a stupid question couls you get an Sti from one blow job.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes you can. Chlamydia or ghonerrea most common oral sti. In both men and women. / Gay//straight

It’s a risk if oral no barriers. All upto how risk averse you are

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

It only takes one. It's that easy. However anecdotal evidence says it's lower risk than penetrative sec.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Really why does everybody use condoms for sex and not for oral. Sorry if i sound stupid for asking

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Really why does everybody use condoms for sex and not for oral. Sorry if i sound stupid for asking"

Have you just come out of a very long term monogamous relationship? If not these questions are, at44, pretty scary.

Take a bit of time goovling all this, not asking for opinions on here, get some facts so you can properly look after yourself and partners.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Doh! Googling

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There’s loads of really clear info available on ALL the forms of oral sex, including kissing.

According to the nurse at a local gum clinic, bruising the back of the throat or soft palate is particularly liable to allow infection to be transferred.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"Really why does everybody use condoms for sex and not for oral. Sorry if i sound stupid for asking"

There's no such thing as a stupid question.

most people don't use condoms for oral because they perceive the risk to be lower. However if you want to use them, do, it's your body, your rules.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The safest sex ,is you and your hand and your imagination

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By *inkerbell67Woman  over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

Get tested reqully be safe than sorry ..

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By *im L FuckitMan  over a year ago

Dumfriesshire


"I know sounds a stupid question

"

Hello OP... on the contrary kudos to you for asking such a pertinent question, with STI's on the rise.

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester


"Really why does everybody use condoms for sex and not for oral. Sorry if i sound stupid for asking"

Because sucking on a condom is about as pleasant as having a balloon in your mouth , and most women and men suck cock because they like the feel of it in their mouth .

So for these reasons , and the fact that the risk of sti’s Is much lower with oral , that’s why .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Do they teach sexual education in the UK school system ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Thanks everyone. I know the obvious stuff, like every one i have used google but its the conflicting advice even from health care proffesionals that confuses. If you look at the forums there is loads of heated conversation around bareback sex but most do not use condoms for oral so i am just asking the question thats all.

It is because i value my health and other peoples that i am asking. I am new to swinging not sex just swinging and this whole different ball game to having one partner.

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By *eorge JetsonMan  over a year ago

Middlesbrough

Oral sti is relatively low risk BUT there ARE risks there. Gonorrhoea being the most commonly oraly transmitted.

HOWEVER if your prone to swollen glands,tonsillitis or anything else where a non sexual bacteria can become present in the soft tissue in the throat then the risk increases MASSIVELY and can be just as risky as penetrative sex.

GP, GUM clinic and even Internet research can provide all kinds of risk reducing and preventative measures and information

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By *reamytitwankCouple  over a year ago

Cardiff

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By *ristol HellfireMan  over a year ago

Bristol

No such thing as a stupid question; the stupid lies with the people that don't ask the questions.

Infections that can be transmitted include:

Gonorrhoea

Genital herpes

Syphilis

Less frequently transmitted are:

Chlamydia

HIV

Hepatitis A,B and C

HPV

Pubic lice (they love eyebrows)

Don't forget that a splash of ejaculate in the eye doesn't just sting, it can also pass on infection.

Transmission depends on the infection load, as well as the immune condition of the recipient (including drug & steroid use, immunosuppression, HIV etc. status, cuts in the oral lining).

Theoretically, it's possible to pass on an infection just from one lick, but the combination of the alkaline environment in the mouth, and the fairly potent acid in the stomach will kill most things that are swallowed (see exceptions above).

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

People mainly concern themselves with fluids that find there way into onto their bodies.

What about fluids left on sheets, beds pillows or clothing. Do these pose a risk if, as I'm certain must happen,

they come into contact with others ?

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By *eorge JetsonMan  over a year ago

Middlesbrough


"People mainly concern themselves with fluids that find there way into onto their bodies.

What about fluids left on sheets, beds pillows or clothing. Do these pose a risk if, as I'm certain must happen,

they come into contact with others ?"

99% of the time sexualy transmitted bacteria and virus need "Live" hosts to be transmitted, meaning they need a passage of uninterrupted movement (penis inside the vagina, sperm entering the cervix, tounge against vaginal entrance,penis inside mouth) all uninterrupted transmission.

Ejaculate from either partner on bedding has almost nil chance of causing any infection internally although that 1% as rare and almost impossible as it it may be shouldn't be left to chance.

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By *im L FuckitMan  over a year ago

Dumfriesshire

Thanks to all who have contributed such valuable info on this thread

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"People mainly concern themselves with fluids that find there way into onto their bodies.

What about fluids left on sheets, beds pillows or clothing. Do these pose a risk if, as I'm certain must happen,

they come into contact with others ?

99% of the time sexualy transmitted bacteria and virus need "Live" hosts to be transmitted, meaning they need a passage of uninterrupted movement (penis inside the vagina, sperm entering the cervix, tounge against vaginal entrance,penis inside mouth) all uninterrupted transmission.

Ejaculate from either partner on bedding has almost nil chance of causing any infection internally although that 1% as rare and almost impossible as it it may be shouldn't be left to chance."

Is this your opinion or fact please ?

I get the transference and temperatures needed for survival etc

But with the amount of images that you see of people group playing on their family furniture, usually sofas without any additional covering it makes you wonder just how infectious any fluids may be.

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester


"People mainly concern themselves with fluids that find there way into onto their bodies.

What about fluids left on sheets, beds pillows or clothing. Do these pose a risk if, as I'm certain must happen,

they come into contact with others ?

99% of the time sexualy transmitted bacteria and virus need "Live" hosts to be transmitted, meaning they need a passage of uninterrupted movement (penis inside the vagina, sperm entering the cervix, tounge against vaginal entrance,penis inside mouth) all uninterrupted transmission.

Ejaculate from either partner on bedding has almost nil chance of causing any infection internally although that 1% as rare and almost impossible as it it may be shouldn't be left to chance.

Is this your opinion or fact please ?

I get the transference and temperatures needed for survival etc

But with the amount of images that you see of people group playing on their family furniture, usually sofas without any additional covering it makes you wonder just how infectious any fluids may be."

Unless you lick an area for some time , or find a patch that’s had some form of ejaculate on it and scrape your exposed bell end or open your flaps to expose a moist minge , and rub it over the area it just can’t happen . Mucous membranes have to be exposed to the fluid , which as far as I’m aware has to be fluid to carry the infection anyway . I can’t find anything suggesting that dried up fluid is a way to get an sti .

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By *ighland gentlemanMan  over a year ago

Ardgay


"How easy is it to catch an STI from oral. I know sounds a stupid question couls you get an Sti from one blow job.

"

You don't specify whether as the giver or the receiver.

Risks slightly different for each.

As stated, you can get oral gonerrhea for instance.

HPV can also be transmitted and that can cause throat and oral cancer.

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By *ighland gentlemanMan  over a year ago

Ardgay


"People mainly concern themselves with fluids that find there way into onto their bodies.

What about fluids left on sheets, beds pillows or clothing. Do these pose a risk if, as I'm certain must happen,

they come into contact with others ?

99% of the time sexualy transmitted bacteria and virus need "Live" hosts to be transmitted, meaning they need a passage of uninterrupted movement (penis inside the vagina, sperm entering the cervix, tounge against vaginal entrance,penis inside mouth) all uninterrupted transmission.

Ejaculate from either partner on bedding has almost nil chance of causing any infection internally although that 1% as rare and almost impossible as it it may be shouldn't be left to chance.

Is this your opinion or fact please ?

I get the transference and temperatures needed for survival etc

But with the amount of images that you see of people group playing on their family furniture, usually sofas without any additional covering it makes you wonder just how infectious any fluids may be.

Unless you lick an area for some time , or find a patch that’s had some form of ejaculate on it and scrape your exposed bell end or open your flaps to expose a moist minge , and rub it over the area it just can’t happen . Mucous membranes have to be exposed to the fluid , which as far as I’m aware has to be fluid to carry the infection anyway . I can’t find anything suggesting that dried up fluid is a way to get an sti .

"

Google lifespan Hep c outside the human body.

Will quote numerous sources stating 3 weeks.

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By *ait88Man  over a year ago

Plymouth

Usually, both oral and penetrative sex are indulged in during the same session. So there can never be reliable statistics about the risk of oral transmission. There is normally no way of telling by which route the infection was transferred.

Transmission is never via the digestive system. It is normally by the blood system. If you damage your gum behind your teeth when brushing them, you have made an unseen door for infections.

There are “dams” on the market which are supposed to be the female equivalent of condoms. They will prevent infection, but look like polythene bags, and I’ve never used one.

The NHS HIV test doesn't look for the virus. It looks for the antibodies that we make to fight the virus. To be sure that we have made enough antibodies to find, the test has to be done at least four weeks after the risk was taken. It takes about two weeks to arrange for a test and receive the result. So a negative test result means that you were uninfected SIX WEEKS AGO. If you took risks during those six weeks, you could have been infected yourself, and passed on the infection to the other people. Typhoid Mary.

My policy is:

Protected penetrative

Unprotected oral giving

She decides oral receiving

Test after taking a risk

No playing until after I receive the negative test result.

This means that I can only "play" a maximum of eight times each year (52 weeks divided by the 6-week HIV test period).

You can reduce your risk of becoming infected by avoiding people who play with a lot of different partners and “get tested regularly”. They are high-risk partners because of the HIV “incubation” test period.

A pill called "Truvada" can be used as an HIV prophylactic. It kills the virus on entry, before it can establish itself in “niches”. I take one on the night before the risk, one on the risk night, and one on the night after. If you are receiving any sort of medical treatment, consult your doctor before taking any Truvada pills. They may cause complications.

The last time I looked, they cost over £400 for 30 on-line. I buy mine from licensed pharmacists in Bangkok for about £70 for 30 tablets. The drug companies charge less in undeveloped countries and more in developed countries.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"People mainly concern themselves with fluids that find there way into onto their bodies.

What about fluids left on sheets, beds pillows or clothing. Do these pose a risk if, as I'm certain must happen,

they come into contact with others ?

99% of the time sexualy transmitted bacteria and virus need "Live" hosts to be transmitted, meaning they need a passage of uninterrupted movement (penis inside the vagina, sperm entering the cervix, tounge against vaginal entrance,penis inside mouth) all uninterrupted transmission.

Ejaculate from either partner on bedding has almost nil chance of causing any infection internally although that 1% as rare and almost impossible as it it may be shouldn't be left to chance.

Is this your opinion or fact please ?

I get the transference and temperatures needed for survival etc

But with the amount of images that you see of people group playing on their family furniture, usually sofas without any additional covering it makes you wonder just how infectious any fluids may be.

Unless you lick an area for some time , or find a patch that’s had some form of ejaculate on it and scrape your exposed bell end or open your flaps to expose a moist minge , and rub it over the area it just can’t happen . Mucous membranes have to be exposed to the fluid , which as far as I’m aware has to be fluid to carry the infection anyway . I can’t find anything suggesting that dried up fluid is a way to get an sti .

"

Not sure that's correct Glos;

Cuts in the mouth exposing an additional entry point strongly suggests an open wound anywhere on the body can be a risk.

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester


"People mainly concern themselves with fluids that find there way into onto their bodies.

What about fluids left on sheets, beds pillows or clothing. Do these pose a risk if, as I'm certain must happen,

they come into contact with others ?

99% of the time sexualy transmitted bacteria and virus need "Live" hosts to be transmitted, meaning they need a passage of uninterrupted movement (penis inside the vagina, sperm entering the cervix, tounge against vaginal entrance,penis inside mouth) all uninterrupted transmission.

Ejaculate from either partner on bedding has almost nil chance of causing any infection internally although that 1% as rare and almost impossible as it it may be shouldn't be left to chance.

Is this your opinion or fact please ?

I get the transference and temperatures needed for survival etc

But with the amount of images that you see of people group playing on their family furniture, usually sofas without any additional covering it makes you wonder just how infectious any fluids may be.

Unless you lick an area for some time , or find a patch that’s had some form of ejaculate on it and scrape your exposed bell end or open your flaps to expose a moist minge , and rub it over the area it just can’t happen . Mucous membranes have to be exposed to the fluid , which as far as I’m aware has to be fluid to carry the infection anyway . I can’t find anything suggesting that dried up fluid is a way to get an sti .

Google lifespan Hep c outside the human body.

Will quote numerous sources stating 3 weeks.

"

Yep , checked that . Seems highly unlikely , and in semen , piss or any other ejaculate it’s load is not high enough to pass it on . Only blood . And then only on drawer handles or other similar surfaces . If anyone is stupid enough to lick , or put an open wound on a drawer handle that’s got someone else’s blood on it , then I despair .

The question was more about sexual fluids passing on an sti , not blood .

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester


"People mainly concern themselves with fluids that find there way into onto their bodies.

What about fluids left on sheets, beds pillows or clothing. Do these pose a risk if, as I'm certain must happen,

they come into contact with others ?

99% of the time sexualy transmitted bacteria and virus need "Live" hosts to be transmitted, meaning they need a passage of uninterrupted movement (penis inside the vagina, sperm entering the cervix, tounge against vaginal entrance,penis inside mouth) all uninterrupted transmission.

Ejaculate from either partner on bedding has almost nil chance of causing any infection internally although that 1% as rare and almost impossible as it it may be shouldn't be left to chance.

Is this your opinion or fact please ?

I get the transference and temperatures needed for survival etc

But with the amount of images that you see of people group playing on their family furniture, usually sofas without any additional covering it makes you wonder just how infectious any fluids may be.

Unless you lick an area for some time , or find a patch that’s had some form of ejaculate on it and scrape your exposed bell end or open your flaps to expose a moist minge , and rub it over the area it just can’t happen . Mucous membranes have to be exposed to the fluid , which as far as I’m aware has to be fluid to carry the infection anyway . I can’t find anything suggesting that dried up fluid is a way to get an sti .

Not sure that's correct Glos;

Cuts in the mouth exposing an additional entry point strongly suggests an open wound anywhere on the body can be a risk."

As highland suggests , this may happen with hep C , but only with blood to blood contact , not male or female ejaculate .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"People mainly concern themselves with fluids that find there way into onto their bodies.

What about fluids left on sheets, beds pillows or clothing. Do these pose a risk if, as I'm certain must happen,

they come into contact with others ?

99% of the time sexualy transmitted bacteria and virus need "Live" hosts to be transmitted, meaning they need a passage of uninterrupted movement (penis inside the vagina, sperm entering the cervix, tounge against vaginal entrance,penis inside mouth) all uninterrupted transmission.

Ejaculate from either partner on bedding has almost nil chance of causing any infection internally although that 1% as rare and almost impossible as it it may be shouldn't be left to chance.

Is this your opinion or fact please ?

I get the transference and temperatures needed for survival etc

But with the amount of images that you see of people group playing on their family furniture, usually sofas without any additional covering it makes you wonder just how infectious any fluids may be.

Unless you lick an area for some time , or find a patch that’s had some form of ejaculate on it and scrape your exposed bell end or open your flaps to expose a moist minge , and rub it over the area it just can’t happen . Mucous membranes have to be exposed to the fluid , which as far as I’m aware has to be fluid to carry the infection anyway . I can’t find anything suggesting that dried up fluid is a way to get an sti .

Google lifespan Hep c outside the human body.

Will quote numerous sources stating 3 weeks.

Yep , checked that . Seems highly unlikely , and in semen , piss or any other ejaculate it’s load is not high enough to pass it on . Only blood . And then only on drawer handles or other similar surfaces . If anyone is stupid enough to lick , or put an open wound on a drawer handle that’s got someone else’s blood on it , then I despair .

The question was more about sexual fluids passing on an sti , not blood ."

Sorry but I still disagree.

Like children ?

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By *eorge JetsonMan  over a year ago

Middlesbrough


"People mainly concern themselves with fluids that find there way into onto their bodies.

What about fluids left on sheets, beds pillows or clothing. Do these pose a risk if, as I'm certain must happen,

they come into contact with others ?

99% of the time sexualy transmitted bacteria and virus need "Live" hosts to be transmitted, meaning they need a passage of uninterrupted movement (penis inside the vagina, sperm entering the cervix, tounge against vaginal entrance,penis inside mouth) all uninterrupted transmission.

Ejaculate from either partner on bedding has almost nil chance of causing any infection internally although that 1% as rare and almost impossible as it it may be shouldn't be left to chance.

Is this your opinion or fact please ?

I get the transference and temperatures needed for survival etc

But with the amount of images that you see of people group playing on their family furniture, usually sofas without any additional covering it makes you wonder just how infectious any fluids may be.

Unless you lick an area for some time , or find a patch that’s had some form of ejaculate on it and scrape your exposed bell end or open your flaps to expose a moist minge , and rub it over the area it just can’t happen . Mucous membranes have to be exposed to the fluid , which as far as I’m aware has to be fluid to carry the infection anyway . I can’t find anything suggesting that dried up fluid is a way to get an sti .

Google lifespan Hep c outside the human body.

Will quote numerous sources stating 3 weeks.

Yep , checked that . Seems highly unlikely , and in semen , piss or any other ejaculate it’s load is not high enough to pass it on . Only blood . And then only on drawer handles or other similar surfaces . If anyone is stupid enough to lick , or put an open wound on a drawer handle that’s got someone else’s blood on it , then I despair .

The question was more about sexual fluids passing on an sti , not blood .

Sorry but I still disagree.

Like children ?"

Fully agree that any private play in your home should be given the priority of additional covering for furniture, sofas obviously and a duvet for the floor, comfort and protection are both a given but as stated with numerous response now, any fluids from either person(s) are untransmitted when outside of a host environment and good quality antibacterial cleaner will be usually more than enough to sanitise any "spillages" that may unluckily make their way to furniture.

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester


"People mainly concern themselves with fluids that find there way into onto their bodies.

What about fluids left on sheets, beds pillows or clothing. Do these pose a risk if, as I'm certain must happen,

they come into contact with others ?

99% of the time sexualy transmitted bacteria and virus need "Live" hosts to be transmitted, meaning they need a passage of uninterrupted movement (penis inside the vagina, sperm entering the cervix, tounge against vaginal entrance,penis inside mouth) all uninterrupted transmission.

Ejaculate from either partner on bedding has almost nil chance of causing any infection internally although that 1% as rare and almost impossible as it it may be shouldn't be left to chance.

Is this your opinion or fact please ?

I get the transference and temperatures needed for survival etc

But with the amount of images that you see of people group playing on their family furniture, usually sofas without any additional covering it makes you wonder just how infectious any fluids may be.

Unless you lick an area for some time , or find a patch that’s had some form of ejaculate on it and scrape your exposed bell end or open your flaps to expose a moist minge , and rub it over the area it just can’t happen . Mucous membranes have to be exposed to the fluid , which as far as I’m aware has to be fluid to carry the infection anyway . I can’t find anything suggesting that dried up fluid is a way to get an sti .

Google lifespan Hep c outside the human body.

Will quote numerous sources stating 3 weeks.

Yep , checked that . Seems highly unlikely , and in semen , piss or any other ejaculate it’s load is not high enough to pass it on . Only blood . And then only on drawer handles or other similar surfaces . If anyone is stupid enough to lick , or put an open wound on a drawer handle that’s got someone else’s blood on it , then I despair .

The question was more about sexual fluids passing on an sti , not blood .

Sorry but I still disagree.

Like children ?"

Disagree with what bit ?

You originally asked about fluids left on beds , sofas etc . No mention of blood .

If it’s the blood thing , then yes , children would possibly be in danger , but one would hope the hepC carrier would be aware that leaving their blood on door handles would be dangerous .

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By *eorge JetsonMan  over a year ago

Middlesbrough


"People mainly concern themselves with fluids that find there way into onto their bodies.

What about fluids left on sheets, beds pillows or clothing. Do these pose a risk if, as I'm certain must happen,

they come into contact with others ?

99% of the time sexualy transmitted bacteria and virus need "Live" hosts to be transmitted, meaning they need a passage of uninterrupted movement (penis inside the vagina, sperm entering the cervix, tounge against vaginal entrance,penis inside mouth) all uninterrupted transmission.

Ejaculate from either partner on bedding has almost nil chance of causing any infection internally although that 1% as rare and almost impossible as it it may be shouldn't be left to chance.

Is this your opinion or fact please ?

I get the transference and temperatures needed for survival etc

But with the amount of images that you see of people group playing on their family furniture, usually sofas without any additional covering it makes you wonder just how infectious any fluids may be.

Unless you lick an area for some time , or find a patch that’s had some form of ejaculate on it and scrape your exposed bell end or open your flaps to expose a moist minge , and rub it over the area it just can’t happen . Mucous membranes have to be exposed to the fluid , which as far as I’m aware has to be fluid to carry the infection anyway . I can’t find anything suggesting that dried up fluid is a way to get an sti .

Google lifespan Hep c outside the human body.

Will quote numerous sources stating 3 weeks.

Yep , checked that . Seems highly unlikely , and in semen , piss or any other ejaculate it’s load is not high enough to pass it on . Only blood . And then only on drawer handles or other similar surfaces . If anyone is stupid enough to lick , or put an open wound on a drawer handle that’s got someone else’s blood on it , then I despair .

The question was more about sexual fluids passing on an sti , not blood .

Sorry but I still disagree.

Like children ?

Disagree with what bit ?

You originally asked about fluids left on beds , sofas etc . No mention of blood .

If it’s the blood thing , then yes , children would possibly be in danger , but one would hope the hepC carrier would be aware that leaving their blood on door handles would be dangerous ."

More concerningly...why would a Hep.C carrier be bleeding all over your house??

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester


"People mainly concern themselves with fluids that find there way into onto their bodies.

What about fluids left on sheets, beds pillows or clothing. Do these pose a risk if, as I'm certain must happen,

they come into contact with others ?

99% of the time sexualy transmitted bacteria and virus need "Live" hosts to be transmitted, meaning they need a passage of uninterrupted movement (penis inside the vagina, sperm entering the cervix, tounge against vaginal entrance,penis inside mouth) all uninterrupted transmission.

Ejaculate from either partner on bedding has almost nil chance of causing any infection internally although that 1% as rare and almost impossible as it it may be shouldn't be left to chance.

Is this your opinion or fact please ?

I get the transference and temperatures needed for survival etc

But with the amount of images that you see of people group playing on their family furniture, usually sofas without any additional covering it makes you wonder just how infectious any fluids may be.

Unless you lick an area for some time , or find a patch that’s had some form of ejaculate on it and scrape your exposed bell end or open your flaps to expose a moist minge , and rub it over the area it just can’t happen . Mucous membranes have to be exposed to the fluid , which as far as I’m aware has to be fluid to carry the infection anyway . I can’t find anything suggesting that dried up fluid is a way to get an sti .

Google lifespan Hep c outside the human body.

Will quote numerous sources stating 3 weeks.

Yep , checked that . Seems highly unlikely , and in semen , piss or any other ejaculate it’s load is not high enough to pass it on . Only blood . And then only on drawer handles or other similar surfaces . If anyone is stupid enough to lick , or put an open wound on a drawer handle that’s got someone else’s blood on it , then I despair .

The question was more about sexual fluids passing on an sti , not blood .

Sorry but I still disagree.

Like children ?

Disagree with what bit ?

You originally asked about fluids left on beds , sofas etc . No mention of blood .

If it’s the blood thing , then yes , children would possibly be in danger , but one would hope the hepC carrier would be aware that leaving their blood on door handles would be dangerous .

More concerningly...why would a Hep.C carrier be bleeding all over your house?? "

Well yeah , that too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

When we joined Fab we contacted the leader of our local social to get invited. Back then, before any meets, I was determined condom would be used for oral as well. They offered some advice about our profile so, seeing as they were being helpful I asked them if condoms are usually requested for oral and she informed me they are not, I trusted her advice as an experienced swinger as opposed to Google or gut instinct as often there are strict rules from professionals to cover their own backs, but experience tells you otherwise. If gut instinct tells you still to use protection or if you are cheating on a spouse, for example, u would still use one but in our case, a couple both participating in this lifestyle, as long as partner happy so am I.

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By *ait88Man  over a year ago

Plymouth

To spread STIs far and wide!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"People mainly concern themselves with fluids that find there way into onto their bodies.

What about fluids left on sheets, beds pillows or clothing. Do these pose a risk if, as I'm certain must happen,

they come into contact with others ?

99% of the time sexualy transmitted bacteria and virus need "Live" hosts to be transmitted, meaning they need a passage of uninterrupted movement (penis inside the vagina, sperm entering the cervix, tounge against vaginal entrance,penis inside mouth) all uninterrupted transmission.

Ejaculate from either partner on bedding has almost nil chance of causing any infection internally although that 1% as rare and almost impossible as it it may be shouldn't be left to chance.

Is this your opinion or fact please ?

I get the transference and temperatures needed for survival etc

But with the amount of images that you see of people group playing on their family furniture, usually sofas without any additional covering it makes you wonder just how infectious any fluids may be.

Unless you lick an area for some time , or find a patch that’s had some form of ejaculate on it and scrape your exposed bell end or open your flaps to expose a moist minge , and rub it over the area it just can’t happen . Mucous membranes have to be exposed to the fluid , which as far as I’m aware has to be fluid to carry the infection anyway . I can’t find anything suggesting that dried up fluid is a way to get an sti .

Google lifespan Hep c outside the human body.

Will quote numerous sources stating 3 weeks.

Yep , checked that . Seems highly unlikely , and in semen , piss or any other ejaculate it’s load is not high enough to pass it on . Only blood . And then only on drawer handles or other similar surfaces . If anyone is stupid enough to lick , or put an open wound on a drawer handle that’s got someone else’s blood on it , then I despair .

The question was more about sexual fluids passing on an sti , not blood .

Sorry but I still disagree.

Like children ?

Disagree with what bit ?

You originally asked about fluids left on beds , sofas etc . No mention of blood .

If it’s the blood thing , then yes , children would possibly be in danger , but one would hope the hepC carrier would be aware that leaving their blood on door handles would be dangerous ."

I am pleased that we agree on said coverings, many do not, the 'do not agrees' will often condemn others for, picture wise;

Untidy dirty homes/backgrounds

Lavatory pictures

Meeting at home with children in the house

Judge those that look personally unkempt/dishevelled, 'dirty feet means dirty floors' etc

Bareback images.

Only for you to see those judging others displaying images of group play taking place on their family sofas/floors without any furniture coverings. Floor wise the most common play aid will be the cushions from the furniture.

Stones and glass houses springs to my mind each time I witness this.

People have great faith in professional advice, given by professionals. They also tend to dismiss, as mentioned above, the 1% margin of risk/error usually stated by these very same professionals. You will find this margin on all the cleaners/sanitizers you have mentioned yourself.

Condoms are no longer seen/used as they once were, for birth control, they are used for control of STIs 'between two people'! Today they are seen as a container that helps prevent the spreading of sexually transmitted infections, especially amongst 'many' swingers, however 'many' claim that bareback is secretly rife.

Let me paint an extreme picture here.

A swingers party held in a GUM clinic, 'swab tested' after this hypothetical party, would be closed down and sterilised. (I truly make this shit up as I type)

Would I attend this party ? 'HELL YES' I could not resist as the irony would be so delicious the kink in me would compel.

My last words on this subject;

The 1% margin should be seriously considered by swingers, equally swingers should times this 1% margin by a factor of ?

Fuck, now a line from Jurassic park has sprung to mind ''Life Will Find A Way'' Jeff Goldblum.

PS

My bored mind is still springing;

Fart into my sofa and I will lay your coat upon my chair and fart into that, after all fairs fair!!

Soon time for us to busy ourselves elsewhere with lifes new challenges, Essex is a strange place, amazingly I fit right in

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By *lorious hole bs16Man  over a year ago

Bristol

Wow..this discussion takes me back to the early 1980's!

Anyone going to mention the risk involved of sharing mugs/cups,shaking hands and I almost forgot toilet seats.

Make sure you cling film yours, extreme safer sex rules..ok

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By *ickygirl41Woman  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Really why does everybody use condoms for sex and not for oral. Sorry if i sound stupid for asking"

Dental dams for rimming and cunnilingus (its an awful word I'm going to invent a better one)

Condoms for bjs is the only way to eliminate risk completely

I don't usually use condoms for oral tho but its still a potential risk no matter how low.

You just need to make your own risk assessment (now i have old greg in my head aaargh)

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By *uzie69xTV/TS  over a year ago

Maidstone


"Get tested reqully be safe than sorry .."

Ditto - I go every 12 weeks. Most clinics are friendly, quick and efficient. Just Google STI Clinics near me / [your postcode]

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

How many of us that have posted on here have had a STI thst they would dare to admit or maybe how many people have been plsying for years and not used a condom but never had a STI

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"How many of us that have posted on here have had a STI thst they would dare to admit or maybe how many people have been plsying for years and not used a condom but never had a STI"
I use condoms for full sex but not for oral. Been swinging for 20 years... And up till about 5 years ago I was doing several gangbangs a week. So sucked a lot of cock.

As yet I've never caught anything

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By *ait88Man  over a year ago

Plymouth

I caught herpes B in Bangkok back in the day, when a condom came off. The small sensation-less "blister" had gone by the time I reached a private doctor, and it has never come back. I also caught herpes A as a child (a cold sore), which also never came back.

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By *roud_RedheadWoman  over a year ago

Coventry


"No such thing as a stupid question; the stupid lies with the people that don't ask the questions.

Infections that can be transmitted include:

Gonorrhoea

Genital herpes

Syphilis

Less frequently transmitted are:

Chlamydia

HIV

Hepatitis A,B and C

HPV

Pubic lice (they love eyebrows)

Don't forget that a splash of ejaculate in the eye doesn't just sting, it can also pass on infection.

Transmission depends on the infection load, as well as the immune condition of the recipient (including drug & steroid use, immunosuppression, HIV etc. status, cuts in the oral lining).

Theoretically, it's possible to pass on an infection just from one lick, but the combination of the alkaline environment in the mouth, and the fairly potent acid in the stomach will kill most things that are swallowed (see exceptions above).

"

Then why do we remain here? Have you not (through quite sane scientific examination) just destroyed FAB and the whole swinging lifestyle?

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By *roticaCouple  over a year ago

Gloucestershire

You can still have fun with a condom. They come in lots of flavours. A friend works in the GUM clinic and they said lots of people come in having caught an STI from oral because many of these viruses live in the throat. Why take the risk?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Get tested reqully be safe than sorry ..

Ditto - I go every 12 weeks. Most clinics are friendly, quick and efficient. Just Google STI Clinics near me / [your postcode]"

Not quick and efficient in Yorkshire I’m afraid. Our sexual health services are groaning under the strain.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

At my last routine sti testing I was reading aposter and it had never occurred to me the extra risk we can put ourselves at by cleaning our teeth just before or after oral ,,, everyday is a school day

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By *icplshropsCouple  over a year ago

Rock


"How many of us that have posted on here have had a STI thst they would dare to admit or maybe how many people have been plsying for years and not used a condom but never had a STI I use condoms for full sex but not for oral. Been swinging for 20 years... And up till about 5 years ago I was doing several gangbangs a week. So sucked a lot of cock.

As yet I've never caught anything "

It’s quite possible the catch HPV without knowing it. This isn’t routinely screened at GUM clinics, nor at your GP through cervical screening, unless you develop abnormal cells. Furthermore, there’s no screening for it within the anal and throat cavities.

Most sexually active people (70-75%) will become infected with HPV this at some time in their life, with most shaking off the virus themselves without any treatment. However, there’s a small number of people that don’t and depending upon which strain, it can become quite serious!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

It seems a mix of answers from people who have done loads of oral and never caught anything to people who think oral with out a condom is not with the risk. I dont think amyone uses dental dams for female oral do they?

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By *atEvolutionCouple  over a year ago

'Merry Christmas'


"How easy is it to catch an STI from oral. I know sounds a stupid question couls you get an Sti from one blow job.

"

Scroll down a little on this page for facts and figures . . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexually_transmitted_infection

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"How many of us that have posted on here have had a STI thst they would dare to admit or maybe how many people have been plsying for years and not used a condom but never had a STI I use condoms for full sex but not for oral. Been swinging for 20 years... And up till about 5 years ago I was doing several gangbangs a week. So sucked a lot of cock.

As yet I've never caught anything

It’s quite possible the catch HPV without knowing it. This isn’t routinely screened at GUM clinics, nor at your GP through cervical screening, unless you develop abnormal cells. Furthermore, there’s no screening for it within the anal and throat cavities.

Most sexually active people (70-75%) will become infected with HPV this at some time in their life, with most shaking off the virus themselves without any treatment. However, there’s a small number of people that don’t and depending upon which strain, it can become quite serious!"

I've had abnormal cells numerous times.. And was tested for hpv too.

I am well aware of the risks this lifestyle holds... But I'd rather never suck a cock again than use a condom for oral

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By *reamytitwankCouple  over a year ago

Cardiff


"Really why does everybody use condoms for sex and not for oral. Sorry if i sound stupid for asking"

Because it takes all the fun out of it. But really we should all be using barriers.

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