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"Finish what? " Decorating  | |||
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"Is this a ‘nice guys don’t get meets’ thread? Mrs" This
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"Nice guys finish last? Discuss...." They do finish last on here your right  | |||
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"Usain Bolt always strikes me as a nice guy " He always strikes me as tenacious, dedicated and characterful. | |||
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"If this is related to getting meets, then "nice" by itself isn't attractive. It's a good quality to have, but you need to have more to offer than just "nice"." Agreed, I think that's true in life too. One needs to have a little je ne sais quoi | |||
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"Nice guys finish last? Discuss...." Bullshit. I only fuck nice guys, I have no interest in arrogance, rudeness or over inflated egos. But each to their own. | |||
"People that moan about nice guys finishing last aren't nice guys, they're push overs. You can be a nice person and still be ruthless in getting what you want. When it comes to women, nice guys smack of men wearing fedoras and white knighting, when they're not actually doing it out if genuine niceness, they're doing it because they think it will attract a woman to them. You can be nice and still be a cocky bastard" | |||
"You mean nice as in doesn't know how to flirt or inpatient and expects to meet without any effort and has been on here for over a year without meeting anybody and says he is genuine with no photos." I've been here 2 years without a meet so dose that make me bad | |||
"You mean nice as in doesn't know how to flirt or inpatient and expects to meet without any effort and has been on here for over a year without meeting anybody and says he is genuine with no photos. I've been here 2 years without a meet so dose that make me bad" Two years without a meet on an Internet sex site has no reflection on whether you are nice or bad. All it means is that you have not been able to attract someone sexually. Not all men are good at that. However if it is your view that nice guys don’t get meets (which you often express on the forums) then you are implying that the guys who do get meets are not nice men. Which is not a very nice thing to say. Mrs | |||
"You mean nice as in doesn't know how to flirt or inpatient and expects to meet without any effort and has been on here for over a year without meeting anybody and says he is genuine with no photos. I've been here 2 years without a meet so dose that make me bad" let's put it this way, you must be doing something wrong to not get any meets in two years, can't blame the women for not wanting to meet. | |||
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"You mean nice as in doesn't know how to flirt or inpatient and expects to meet without any effort and has been on here for over a year without meeting anybody and says he is genuine with no photos. I've been here 2 years without a meet so dose that make me bad Two years without a meet on an Internet sex site has no reflection on whether you are nice or bad. All it means is that you have not been able to attract someone sexually. Not all men are good at that. However if it is your view that nice guys don’t get meets (which you often express on the forums) then you are implying that the guys who do get meets are not nice men. Which is not a very nice thing to say. Mrs" | |||
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"Polite and witty is better than nice" It is a cross I bear. | |||
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"We do finish last because nice guys let the women cum first "Lots of men think that. It isn't always what women want though. I think nice people find out what the other person wants when it comes to sex. | |||
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"We do finish last because nice guys let the women cum first
Lots of men think that. It isn't always what women want though.
I think nice people find out what the other person wants when it comes to sex."So true | |||
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"Everyone thought certain celebrities from the past were nice, doing things for charities etc etc but boy they were wrong, they ended getting all arrested and thrown in prison." That the problem these days people don't trust the word nice | |||
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"Nice guys finish last? Discuss...." Mrs marmite is a slow eater, I'm always finished before her. | |||
"You mean nice as in doesn't know how to flirt or inpatient and expects to meet without any effort and has been on here for over a year without meeting anybody and says he is genuine with no photos. I've been here 2 years without a meet so dose that make me bad" Well all your recent posts have been moaning posts, which is NOT an attractive look, and you recently admitted to not bothering to read profiles. Put those together and you might come to an answer. If you think moping around a forum and being too lazy to read profiles makes you 'nice' you might well be mistaken and shouldn't be surprised when other Fabbers with brighter outlooks and a willingness to put some effort in get laid more. | |||
"Nice normally means a lack of assertiveness." No it doesn't. We've got on well with some very hunky military types who are extremely nice and respectful but you'd never call them lacking in assertiveness. Being nice in conversation doesn't mean you can't turn it on in the bedroom. Just as somebody being a cocky twat doesn't mean they can't be a complete flop and a damp squib. | |||
"Nice guys only get the hot girl in the movies..." You've obviously never seen Grease. | |||
"If this is related to getting meets, then "nice" by itself isn't attractive. It's a good quality to have, but you need to have more to offer than just "nice"." Suppose it’s similar to going to an interview! You can only say so much if they actually listen, even the you won’t get the job gaha | |||
"Who's a nice guy op, you? "Wouldn’t know, the saying is pretty general. Was more so towards the actual effort x being courteous = overlooked.  | |||
"I do like it when a guy is nice enough to finish last. Especially when I've finished 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th....and on." Always a requirement I’d say. | |||
"You mean nice as in doesn't know how to flirt or inpatient and expects to meet without any effort and has been on here for over a year without meeting anybody and says he is genuine with no photos." Have we spoken? I’d say I’m pretty patient...I don’t expect much from others, just the chance to talk. 
Well I am as genuine as what you see, you sure you’re looking at the right profile :P | |||
""I am attached, think whatever you want of me, I still sleep at night" ....Now I know "nice" is subjective, but... "People are here all for the same thing regardless of the situation we are in. I’ve had digs and spiteful messages but good people can still do bad things.  | |||
"Everyone thought certain celebrities from the past were nice, doing things for charities etc etc but boy they were wrong, they ended getting all arrested and thrown in prison. That the problem these days people don't trust the word nice " | |||
"You mean nice as in doesn't know how to flirt or inpatient and expects to meet without any effort and has been on here for over a year without meeting anybody and says he is genuine with no photos. I've been here 2 years without a meet so dose that make me bad Two years without a meet on an Internet sex site has no reflection on whether you are nice or bad. All it means is that you have not been able to attract someone sexually. Not all men are good at that. However if it is your view that nice guys don’t get meets (which you often express on the forums) then you are implying that the guys who do get meets are not nice men. Which is not a very nice thing to say. Mrs" no i do not mean it that way what you think i only being honest | |||
"You mean nice as in doesn't know how to flirt or inpatient and expects to meet without any effort and has been on here for over a year without meeting anybody and says he is genuine with no photos. I've been here 2 years without a meet so dose that make me bad Two years without a meet on an Internet sex site has no reflection on whether you are nice or bad. All it means is that you have not been able to attract someone sexually. Not all men are good at that. However if it is your view that nice guys don’t get meets (which you often express on the forums) then you are implying that the guys who do get meets are not nice men. Which is not a very nice thing to say. Mrs" if that the case then it goes to show you got to be hot to attract someone if that what you mean which is also not nice. | |||
"Nice guys finish last? Discuss...." More of a hobnob guy and I always finish them first. You don't get a physique like mine by being shy around biscuits. Wait..... we're talking about biscuits, right? | |||
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"You mean nice as in doesn't know how to flirt or inpatient and expects to meet without any effort and has been on here for over a year without meeting anybody and says he is genuine with no photos. I've been here 2 years without a meet so dose that make me bad Two years without a meet on an Internet sex site has no reflection on whether you are nice or bad. All it means is that you have not been able to attract someone sexually. Not all men are good at that. However if it is your view that nice guys don’t get meets (which you often express on the forums) then you are implying that the guys who do get meets are not nice men. Which is not a very nice thing to say. Mrs if that the case then it goes to show you got to be hot to attract someone if that what you mean which is also not nice. "do not know what being ‘hot’ means. I don’t think the guys I play with would be considered ‘hot’ in the traditional sense. But in order to attract someone sexually there needs to be sex appeal. Some people have more sex appeal than others. Some people are good at demonstrating sex appeal on-line, some people are better at demonstrating sex appeal in person. If someone is consistently unable to attract anyone sexually, it probably means they don’t have sex appeal. That’s just unfortunate. It doesn’t mean they are a bad person. In fact they could be a brilliant person. The ability to get someone into bed is not one of life’s important attributes. But yes the ‘hotter’ some is, the easier it will be for him or her to get sex. You think that’s not nice? I suppose it is an unfair fact of life. But that’s the way life is. Mrs | |||
"You mean nice as in doesn't know how to flirt or inpatient and expects to meet without any effort and has been on here for over a year without meeting anybody and says he is genuine with no photos. I've been here 2 years without a meet so dose that make me bad Two years without a meet on an Internet sex site has no reflection on whether you are nice or bad. All it means is that you have not been able to attract someone sexually. Not all men are good at that. However if it is your view that nice guys don’t get meets (which you often express on the forums) then you are implying that the guys who do get meets are not nice men. Which is not a very nice thing to say. Mrs if that the case then it goes to show you got to be hot to attract someone if that what you mean which is also not nice.
do not know what being ‘hot’ means. I don’t think the guys I play with would be considered ‘hot’ in the traditional sense. But in order to attract someone sexually there needs to be sex appeal. Some people have more sex appeal than others. Some people are good at demonstrating sex appeal on-line, some people are better at demonstrating sex appeal in person. If someone is consistently unable to attract anyone sexually, it probably means they don’t have sex appeal. That’s just unfortunate. It doesn’t mean they are a bad person. In fact they could be a brilliant person. The ability to get someone into bed is not one of life’s important attributes. But yes the ‘hotter’ some is, the easier it will be for him or her to get sex. You think that’s not nice? I suppose it is an unfair fact of life. But that’s the way life is.
Mrs"ok i not say anything else as it seem i say the wrong thing.. | |||
"You mean nice as in doesn't know how to flirt or inpatient and expects to meet without any effort and has been on here for over a year without meeting anybody and says he is genuine with no photos. I've been here 2 years without a meet so dose that make me bad" Not at all pal. I see so many people bitching about nasty messages from pushy and arrogant men. So the nice guys start a conversation in a polite manner. They don't expect a meet right off the bat and they can take rejection without having a tantrum. Problem is, it makes the nice guys seem dull. Rather have a rant about people being horrid than give the respectful ones a chance. | |||
"Wait..... we're talking about biscuits, right?" Always biscuits! | |||
"You mean nice as in doesn't know how to flirt or inpatient and expects to meet without any effort and has been on here for over a year without meeting anybody and says he is genuine with no photos. I've been here 2 years without a meet so dose that make me bad Not at all pal. I see so many people bitching about nasty messages from pushy and arrogant men. So the nice guys start a conversation in a polite manner. They don't expect a meet right off the bat and they can take rejection without having a tantrum. Problem is, it makes the nice guys seem dull. Rather have a rant about people being horrid than give the respectful ones a chance. " | |||
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"You mean nice as in doesn't know how to flirt or inpatient and expects to meet without any effort and has been on here for over a year without meeting anybody and says he is genuine with no photos. I've been here 2 years without a meet so dose that make me bad Not at all pal. I see so many people bitching about nasty messages from pushy and arrogant men. So the nice guys start a conversation in a polite manner. They don't expect a meet right off the bat and they can take rejection without having a tantrum. Problem is, it makes the nice guys seem dull. Rather have a rant about people being horrid than give the respectful ones a chance. "But many of the nice respectful ones do get a chance. There are verification lists full of nice respectful guys. The clubs are fulls of nice respectful guys all having a good time. The type of guys you are talking about are not all dull. Mrs | |||
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"You mean nice as in doesn't know how to flirt or inpatient and expects to meet without any effort and has been on here for over a year without meeting anybody and says he is genuine with no photos. I've been here 2 years without a meet so dose that make me bad Not at all pal. I see so many people bitching about nasty messages from pushy and arrogant men. So the nice guys start a conversation in a polite manner. They don't expect a meet right off the bat and they can take rejection without having a tantrum. Problem is, it makes the nice guys seem dull. Rather have a rant about people being horrid than give the respectful ones a chance.
But many of the nice respectful ones do get a chance. There are verification lists full of nice respectful guys. The clubs are fulls of nice respectful guys all having a good time. The type of guys you are talking about are not all dull.
Mrs"I accept your point entirely but that doesn't detract from the fact that there are many who get ignored. Primarily because they aren't verified (Which in my own opinion is a complete waste of time and in no way means that person isn't a lunatic of some kind. Fab owners have your phone number, email, and payment details. That combined with photo verification should be enough to stop said nutters) Catch 22 for many single men on here. Can't get a chat/meet because not verified and can't get verified without a chat/meet.(Not including cams and social events which many like myself are not comfortable with having not met 1st. I see both points of view and simply accept that is how things will remain. | |||
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"Nice guys finish last? Discuss.... Bullshit. I only fuck nice guys, I have no interest in arrogance, rudeness or over inflated egos. But each to their own. " totally agree! Im pretty sure the girlies wouldn't fuck a guy they thought wasn't nice! It's all about doing things the right way and treating people the way you want to be treated yourself.Cock pics being pushy or rude is a big no no so follow the rules and hopefully if the click and chemistry are there things will happen | |||
"My partner doesn’t care if I cum or not it’s all about him " | |||
"My husband always made sure I came first!! So he is a nice guy " | |||
"My husband always made sure I came first!! So he is a nice guy " so considerate! See there are good guys on here | |||
"You mean nice as in doesn't know how to flirt or inpatient and expects to meet without any effort and has been on here for over a year without meeting anybody and says he is genuine with no photos. I've been here 2 years without a meet so dose that make me bad Not at all pal. I see so many people bitching about nasty messages from pushy and arrogant men. So the nice guys start a conversation in a polite manner. They don't expect a meet right off the bat and they can take rejection without having a tantrum. Problem is, it makes the nice guys seem dull. Rather have a rant about people being horrid than give the respectful ones a chance.
But many of the nice respectful ones do get a chance. There are verification lists full of nice respectful guys. The clubs are fulls of nice respectful guys all having a good time. The type of guys you are talking about are not all dull.
Mrs
I accept your point entirely but that doesn't detract from the fact that there are many who get ignored. Primarily because they aren't verified (Which in my own opinion is a complete waste of time and in no way means that person isn't a lunatic of some kind. Fab owners have your phone number, email, and payment details.
That combined with photo verification should be enough to stop said nutters)
Catch 22 for many single men on here. Can't get a chat/meet because not verified and can't get verified without a chat/meet.(Not including cams and social events which many like myself are not comfortable with having not met 1st.
I see both points of view and simply accept that is how things will remain.
"Well the catch 22 situation of being verified or not is an entirely different issue, and nothing to do with whether or not the guy is nice. It’s also mathematically impossible for all guys on Fab to get a meet, because there are too many guys to go round, so some will miss out. The ones that miss out, are they nice? Some will be no doubt, and some will be shits. I don’t think there is any evidence of there being a pattern that the attribute of being nice equals not being able to get a meet. Mrs | |||
"This is one of my most hated sayings ever. Its bollocks. Its just an excuse to guys who cant get meets. Every guy i meet is a nice decent guy only difference is they dont have to bleat on about how nice they are. They just get in with being themselves" this exactly! it's stupid, as well as pretty ignorant to suggest that women on here are deliberately meeting horrible men all the time...pretty disrespectful to both the men and the women..just pointless whining.. | |||
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"This is one of my most hated sayings ever. Its bollocks. Its just an excuse to guys who cant get meets. Every guy i meet is a nice decent guy only difference is they dont have to bleat on about how nice they are. They just get in with being themselves" Don’t meet bleaters | |||
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"Anyway, the answer is. Nice guys don't all come last. But don't be bleating and moaning when you meet twat because he's been verified when you completely ignored the nice guy who hasn't. More fool you "if i did meet a twat i wouldnt be blaming the rest of the site. Id take responsability for myself | |||
"Anyway, the answer is. Nice guys don't all come last. But don't be bleating and moaning when you meet twat because he's been verified when you completely ignored the nice guy who hasn't. More fool you "Can you define a "nice guy" for me? | |||
"1st of all, nobody said that only nasty guys get meets. The point about verification is perfectly valid in this situation because there are hundreds upon hundreds of profiles saying they won't meet verified. This means that there are many nice guys that don't get a look in or a chance to prove themselves. Mathematically impossible? There are things in life that are, but that doesn't apply to fab at all. I've been on and off fab many times before. The reason I haven't been verified this time around is to do with my approach. Chatting is more important to me than meeting so you won't find me bleating. I'm in agreement with both views. You are right and I am righter "It does get said an awful lot on the forums, including this thread, that nice guys don’t get meets. I take that statement to mean that those who do get meets will not be nice. I mean they can’t be nice if nice guys don’t get meets? You are right its true that there are nice guys who don’t get a chance to prove themselves for a selection of reasons, including that of no verifications. This is arguably unfair (if it’s reasonable to regard peoples selection procedure as unfair). What I am trying to stress though is that it is not because they are nice that they don’t get meets. It might be because they don’t have verifications (which is a debate in itself), or it might be for any number of other reasons. But being nice is not the problem. And I’m sure you’re not saying that being nice is the problem, either. But others have said this, in this thread and other similar threads. With regards to it being mathematically impossible for all men to get a meet, I did once do a calculation based on an estimated statistic as to how ‘busy’ every woman onFab (whether single or part of a couple) would need to be in order for each single man on a Fab to get sex once a year. I can’t remember what I came up with, but it did require all women on Fab to have a new partner at a rate that most would not be happy with. So maybe not mathematically impossible, but probably mathematically unrealistic. Mrs | |||
"1st of all, nobody said that only nasty guys get meets. The point about verification is perfectly valid in this situation because there are hundreds upon hundreds of profiles saying they won't meet verified. This means that there are many nice guys that don't get a look in or a chance to prove themselves. Mathematically impossible? There are things in life that are, but that doesn't apply to fab at all. I've been on and off fab many times before. The reason I haven't been verified this time around is to do with my approach. Chatting is more important to me than meeting so you won't find me bleating. I'm in agreement with both views. You are right and I am righter
It does get said an awful lot on the forums, including this thread, that nice guys don’t get meets. I take that statement to mean that those who do get meets will not be nice. I mean they can’t be nice if nice guys don’t get meets?
You are right its true that there are nice guys who don’t get a chance to prove themselves for a selection of reasons, including that of no verifications. This is arguably unfair (if it’s reasonable to regard peoples selection procedure as unfair). What I am trying to stress though is that it is not because they are nice that they don’t get meets. It might be because they don’t have verifications (which is a debate in itself), or it might be for any number of other reasons. But being nice is not the problem. And I’m sure you’re not saying that being nice is the problem, either. But others have said this, in this thread and other similar threads.
With regards to it being mathematically impossible for all men to get a meet, I did once do a calculation based on an estimated statistic as to how ‘busy’ every woman onFab (whether single or part of a couple) would need to be in order for each single man on a Fab to get sex once a year. I can’t remember what I came up with, but it did require all women on Fab to have a new partner at a rate that most would not be happy with. So maybe not mathematically impossible, but probably mathematically unrealistic.
Mrs"I told you it wasn't. mathematically impossible there's roughly 17 men to every woman, so if every woman met a new man every week all men would get a meet within 17 weeks.
Anyway, can you define "nice" for me?
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"Anyway, the answer is. Nice guys don't all come last. But don't be bleating and moaning when you meet twat because he's been verified when you completely ignored the nice guy who hasn't. More fool you "We personally haven’t had any problems with verified guys. But if we did and we decided to go for non-verified guys instead, how do we know which are the nice non-verified guys? I am very aware that we have bypassed probably hundreds of nice sexy guys, some verified, some not. But it doesn’t matter because I only need about 2 nice guys. Yes I supposed that if there is a couple or a lady who have a run of bad experiences, it might be worth considering whether their selection procedure is bypassing the nice guys. Would those couples be better off moving over non-verified guys? Mrs | |||
"Nice guys finish last? Discuss...." Clearly not. | |||
"Nice guys finish last? Discuss...." Yes they do but it's due to their mindset. A nice guy would take care of a partner by spending his time cooking for them and that is seen as no effort. A not so nice guy puts in less time, buys interesting food crap and thats taken as a big effort on his part. One guy saves money the other guy spends it on crap | |||
"1st of all, nobody said that only nasty guys get meets. The point about verification is perfectly valid in this situation because there are hundreds upon hundreds of profiles saying they won't meet verified. This means that there are many nice guys that don't get a look in or a chance to prove themselves. Mathematically impossible? There are things in life that are, but that doesn't apply to fab at all. I've been on and off fab many times before. The reason I haven't been verified this time around is to do with my approach. Chatting is more important to me than meeting so you won't find me bleating. I'm in agreement with both views. You are right and I am righter
It does get said an awful lot on the forums, including this thread, that nice guys don’t get meets. I take that statement to mean that those who do get meets will not be nice. I mean they can’t be nice if nice guys don’t get meets?
You are right its true that there are nice guys who don’t get a chance to prove themselves for a selection of reasons, including that of no verifications. This is arguably unfair (if it’s reasonable to regard peoples selection procedure as unfair). What I am trying to stress though is that it is not because they are nice that they don’t get meets. It might be because they don’t have verifications (which is a debate in itself), or it might be for any number of other reasons. But being nice is not the problem. And I’m sure you’re not saying that being nice is the problem, either. But others have said this, in this thread and other similar threads.
With regards to it being mathematically impossible for all men to get a meet, I did once do a calculation based on an estimated statistic as to how ‘busy’ every woman onFab (whether single or part of a couple) would need to be in order for each single man on a Fab to get sex once a year. I can’t remember what I came up with, but it did require all women on Fab to have a new partner at a rate that most would not be happy with. So maybe not mathematically impossible, but probably mathematically unrealistic.
Mrs
I told you it wasn't. mathematically impossible there's roughly 17 men to every woman, so if every woman met a new man every week all men would get a meet within 17 weeks.
Anyway, can you define "nice" for me?
"Very well put Mrs. My definition of nice fro. A man's point of view. Gentle,respectful,unselfish,good humoured,considerate and attentive, to name but a few. (All of wich I am I might just add )
Obviously there has to be a physical as well as a mental attraction, it's just a shame that die to idiots and the aforementioned ratio of women to men, guys with those attributes no matter how good in bed or how much fun they are, simply don't get a look in.
Obviously if he went to a club or on cam, or a social event he will get verified and reep the benefits of that worthless stamp of approval.
I do love a good discussion.
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"1st of all, nobody said that only nasty guys get meets. The point about verification is perfectly valid in this situation because there are hundreds upon hundreds of profiles saying they won't meet verified. This means that there are many nice guys that don't get a look in or a chance to prove themselves. Mathematically impossible? There are things in life that are, but that doesn't apply to fab at all. I've been on and off fab many times before. The reason I haven't been verified this time around is to do with my approach. Chatting is more important to me than meeting so you won't find me bleating. I'm in agreement with both views. You are right and I am righter
It does get said an awful lot on the forums, including this thread, that nice guys don’t get meets. I take that statement to mean that those who do get meets will not be nice. I mean they can’t be nice if nice guys don’t get meets?
You are right its true that there are nice guys who don’t get a chance to prove themselves for a selection of reasons, including that of no verifications. This is arguably unfair (if it’s reasonable to regard peoples selection procedure as unfair). What I am trying to stress though is that it is not because they are nice that they don’t get meets. It might be because they don’t have verifications (which is a debate in itself), or it might be for any number of other reasons. But being nice is not the problem. And I’m sure you’re not saying that being nice is the problem, either. But others have said this, in this thread and other similar threads.
With regards to it being mathematically impossible for all men to get a meet, I did once do a calculation based on an estimated statistic as to how ‘busy’ every woman onFab (whether single or part of a couple) would need to be in order for each single man on a Fab to get sex once a year. I can’t remember what I came up with, but it did require all women on Fab to have a new partner at a rate that most would not be happy with. So maybe not mathematically impossible, but probably mathematically unrealistic.
Mrs
I told you it wasn't. mathematically impossible there's roughly 17 men to every woman, so if every woman met a new man every week all men would get a meet within 17 weeks.
Anyway, can you define "nice" for me?
"Yes I remember now, we had this conversation before. So for a man to have sex from Fab once a year each woman would need to have a different sex partner about every 3 weeks. Which is obviously not going to happen, as many prefer repeat meets, and a lot women deviate towards the same men, so some men get a monopoly of women. ‘Nice’ for me is: Turns up when he says he will Replies to text messages Organised with his diary Pays his way Talks to me Makes me feel good | |||
"1st of all, nobody said that only nasty guys get meets. The point about verification is perfectly valid in this situation because there are hundreds upon hundreds of profiles saying they won't meet verified. This means that there are many nice guys that don't get a look in or a chance to prove themselves. Mathematically impossible? There are things in life that are, but that doesn't apply to fab at all. I've been on and off fab many times before. The reason I haven't been verified this time around is to do with my approach. Chatting is more important to me than meeting so you won't find me bleating. I'm in agreement with both views. You are right and I am righter
It does get said an awful lot on the forums, including this thread, that nice guys don’t get meets. I take that statement to mean that those who do get meets will not be nice. I mean they can’t be nice if nice guys don’t get meets?
You are right its true that there are nice guys who don’t get a chance to prove themselves for a selection of reasons, including that of no verifications. This is arguably unfair (if it’s reasonable to regard peoples selection procedure as unfair). What I am trying to stress though is that it is not because they are nice that they don’t get meets. It might be because they don’t have verifications (which is a debate in itself), or it might be for any number of other reasons. But being nice is not the problem. And I’m sure you’re not saying that being nice is the problem, either. But others have said this, in this thread and other similar threads.
With regards to it being mathematically impossible for all men to get a meet, I did once do a calculation based on an estimated statistic as to how ‘busy’ every woman onFab (whether single or part of a couple) would need to be in order for each single man on a Fab to get sex once a year. I can’t remember what I came up with, but it did require all women on Fab to have a new partner at a rate that most would not be happy with. So maybe not mathematically impossible, but probably mathematically unrealistic.
Mrs
I told you it wasn't. mathematically impossible there's roughly 17 men to every woman, so if every woman met a new man every week all men would get a meet within 17 weeks.
Anyway, can you define "nice" for me?
Yes I remember now, we had this conversation before. So for a man to have sex from Fab once a year each woman would need to have a different sex partner about every 3 weeks. Which is obviously not going to happen, as many prefer repeat meets, and a lot women deviate towards the same men, so some men get a monopoly of women.
‘Nice’ for me is:
Turns up when he says he will
Replies to text messages
Organised with his diary
Pays his way
Talks to me
Makes me feel good "If each woman committed to having a new sexual partner every week, all the single guys would get a fuck within 17 weeks. Then the women could have a rest. My point about. "nice" is that it's completely subjective. I suspect very few people on here would say they are not nice. However, men who put themselves forward explicitly as "nice guys" are, in my view, to be avoided. They tend to be people with strong senses of entitlement who believe that because they are capable of being civil to a woman, she is under a moral obligation to fuck them. | |||
"1st of all, nobody said that only nasty guys get meets. The point about verification is perfectly valid in this situation because there are hundreds upon hundreds of profiles saying they won't meet verified. This means that there are many nice guys that don't get a look in or a chance to prove themselves. Mathematically impossible? There are things in life that are, but that doesn't apply to fab at all. I've been on and off fab many times before. The reason I haven't been verified this time around is to do with my approach. Chatting is more important to me than meeting so you won't find me bleating. I'm in agreement with both views. You are right and I am righter
It does get said an awful lot on the forums, including this thread, that nice guys don’t get meets. I take that statement to mean that those who do get meets will not be nice. I mean they can’t be nice if nice guys don’t get meets?
You are right its true that there are nice guys who don’t get a chance to prove themselves for a selection of reasons, including that of no verifications. This is arguably unfair (if it’s reasonable to regard peoples selection procedure as unfair). What I am trying to stress though is that it is not because they are nice that they don’t get meets. It might be because they don’t have verifications (which is a debate in itself), or it might be for any number of other reasons. But being nice is not the problem. And I’m sure you’re not saying that being nice is the problem, either. But others have said this, in this thread and other similar threads.
With regards to it being mathematically impossible for all men to get a meet, I did once do a calculation based on an estimated statistic as to how ‘busy’ every woman onFab (whether single or part of a couple) would need to be in order for each single man on a Fab to get sex once a year. I can’t remember what I came up with, but it did require all women on Fab to have a new partner at a rate that most would not be happy with. So maybe not mathematically impossible, but probably mathematically unrealistic.
Mrs
I told you it wasn't. mathematically impossible there's roughly 17 men to every woman, so if every woman met a new man every week all men would get a meet within 17 weeks.
Anyway, can you define "nice" for me?
Very well put Mrs.
My definition of nice fro. A man's point of view.
Gentle,respectful,unselfish,good humoured,considerate and attentive, to name but a few. (All of wich I am I might just add )
Obviously there has to be a physical as well as a mental attraction, it's just a shame that die to idiots and the aforementioned ratio of women to men, guys with those attributes no matter how good in bed or how much fun they are, simply don't get a look in.
Obviously if he went to a club or on cam, or a social event he will get verified and reep the benefits of that worthless stamp of approval.
I do love a good discussion.
It's the most chat I've had since 're joining lol "Well one club verification or cam verification doesn’t really mean much to us either. We look at verifications, but only to find out if the guy is experienced with couples. We find it goes smoother if that’s the case. | |||
"Nice guys finish last? Discuss.... Yes they do but it's due to their mindset. A nice guy would take care of a partner by spending his time cooking for them and that is seen as no effort. A not so nice guy puts in less time, buys interesting food crap and thats taken as a big effort on his part. One guy saves money the other guy spends it on crap" thats even bigger bollocks | |||
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Joking of course.
You make a fair point | |||
"1st of all, nobody said that only nasty guys get meets. The point about verification is perfectly valid in this situation because there are hundreds upon hundreds of profiles saying they won't meet verified. This means that there are many nice guys that don't get a look in or a chance to prove themselves. Mathematically impossible? There are things in life that are, but that doesn't apply to fab at all. I've been on and off fab many times before. The reason I haven't been verified this time around is to do with my approach. Chatting is more important to me than meeting so you won't find me bleating. I'm in agreement with both views. You are right and I am righter
It does get said an awful lot on the forums, including this thread, that nice guys don’t get meets. I take that statement to mean that those who do get meets will not be nice. I mean they can’t be nice if nice guys don’t get meets?
You are right its true that there are nice guys who don’t get a chance to prove themselves for a selection of reasons, including that of no verifications. This is arguably unfair (if it’s reasonable to regard peoples selection procedure as unfair). What I am trying to stress though is that it is not because they are nice that they don’t get meets. It might be because they don’t have verifications (which is a debate in itself), or it might be for any number of other reasons. But being nice is not the problem. And I’m sure you’re not saying that being nice is the problem, either. But others have said this, in this thread and other similar threads.
With regards to it being mathematically impossible for all men to get a meet, I did once do a calculation based on an estimated statistic as to how ‘busy’ every woman onFab (whether single or part of a couple) would need to be in order for each single man on a Fab to get sex once a year. I can’t remember what I came up with, but it did require all women on Fab to have a new partner at a rate that most would not be happy with. So maybe not mathematically impossible, but probably mathematically unrealistic.
Mrs
I told you it wasn't. mathematically impossible there's roughly 17 men to every woman, so if every woman met a new man every week all men would get a meet within 17 weeks.
Anyway, can you define "nice" for me?
Yes I remember now, we had this conversation before. So for a man to have sex from Fab once a year each woman would need to have a different sex partner about every 3 weeks. Which is obviously not going to happen, as many prefer repeat meets, and a lot women deviate towards the same men, so some men get a monopoly of women.
‘Nice’ for me is:
Turns up when he says he will
Replies to text messages
Organised with his diary
Pays his way
Talks to me
Makes me feel good
If each woman committed to having a new sexual partner every week, all the single guys would get a fuck within 17 weeks. Then the women could have a rest.
My point about. "nice" is that it's completely subjective. I suspect very few people on here would say they are not nice.
However, men who put themselves forward explicitly as "nice guys" are, in my view, to be avoided. They tend to be people with strong senses of entitlement who believe that because they are capable of being civil to a woman, she is under a moral obligation to fuck them. "That’s true. And I’m looking for a casual sex partner, so although I expect to be treated well, I’m looking for a guy who first and foremost turns me on. Just being nice ain’t gonna tempt me into bed - local vicar is nice, but I’m not going to sleep with him! Nice should be the norm, go without saying. It should not be used as a selling point on a sex site - it’s not an aphrodisiac! Mrs | |||
"Jeez, whatever happened to breeding fresh talent .
Joking of course.
You make a fair point "I don’t have the right personality to train fresh talent. I’ll leave that to someone with more confidence | |||
"Nice guys finish last? Discuss.... Yes they do but it's due to their mindset. A nice guy would take care of a partner by spending his time cooking for them and that is seen as no effort. A not so nice guy puts in less time, buys interesting food crap and thats taken as a big effort on his part. One guy saves money the other guy spends it on crapthats even bigger bollocks" Just because you don't agree doesn't make it bollocks. Out of the billions of women in the world do you expect them to find what you find nice and not nice exactly the same. | |||
"Nice guys finish last? Discuss.... Yes they do but it's due to their mindset. A nice guy would take care of a partner by spending his time cooking for them and that is seen as no effort. A not so nice guy puts in less time, buys interesting food crap and thats taken as a big effort on his part. One guy saves money the other guy spends it on crapthats even bigger bollocks Just because you don't agree doesn't make it bollocks. Out of the billions of women in the world do you expect them to find what you find nice and not nice exactly the same." but doing that is just normal. Everything said on this thread about "nice guys" is just treating people normally | |||
"1st of all, nobody said that only nasty guys get meets. The point about verification is perfectly valid in this situation because there are hundreds upon hundreds of profiles saying they won't meet verified. This means that there are many nice guys that don't get a look in or a chance to prove themselves. Mathematically impossible? There are things in life that are, but that doesn't apply to fab at all. I've been on and off fab many times before. The reason I haven't been verified this time around is to do with my approach. Chatting is more important to me than meeting so you won't find me bleating. I'm in agreement with both views. You are right and I am righter
It does get said an awful lot on the forums, including this thread, that nice guys don’t get meets. I take that statement to mean that those who do get meets will not be nice. I mean they can’t be nice if nice guys don’t get meets?
You are right its true that there are nice guys who don’t get a chance to prove themselves for a selection of reasons, including that of no verifications. This is arguably unfair (if it’s reasonable to regard peoples selection procedure as unfair). What I am trying to stress though is that it is not because they are nice that they don’t get meets. It might be because they don’t have verifications (which is a debate in itself), or it might be for any number of other reasons. But being nice is not the problem. And I’m sure you’re not saying that being nice is the problem, either. But others have said this, in this thread and other similar threads.
With regards to it being mathematically impossible for all men to get a meet, I did once do a calculation based on an estimated statistic as to how ‘busy’ every woman onFab (whether single or part of a couple) would need to be in order for each single man on a Fab to get sex once a year. I can’t remember what I came up with, but it did require all women on Fab to have a new partner at a rate that most would not be happy with. So maybe not mathematically impossible, but probably mathematically unrealistic.
Mrs
I told you it wasn't. mathematically impossible there's roughly 17 men to every woman, so if every woman met a new man every week all men would get a meet within 17 weeks.
Anyway, can you define "nice" for me?
Yes I remember now, we had this conversation before. So for a man to have sex from Fab once a year each woman would need to have a different sex partner about every 3 weeks. Which is obviously not going to happen, as many prefer repeat meets, and a lot women deviate towards the same men, so some men get a monopoly of women.
‘Nice’ for me is:
Turns up when he says he will
Replies to text messages
Organised with his diary
Pays his way
Talks to me
Makes me feel good
If each woman committed to having a new sexual partner every week, all the single guys would get a fuck within 17 weeks. Then the women could have a rest.
My point about. "nice" is that it's completely subjective. I suspect very few people on here would say they are not nice.
However, men who put themselves forward explicitly as "nice guys" are, in my view, to be avoided. They tend to be people with strong senses of entitlement who believe that because they are capable of being civil to a woman, she is under a moral obligation to fuck them.
That’s true. And I’m looking for a casual sex partner, so although I expect to be treated well, I’m looking for a guy who first and foremost turns me on. Just being nice ain’t gonna tempt me into bed - local vicar is nice, but I’m not going to sleep with him! Nice should be the norm, go without saying. It should not be used as a selling point on a sex site - it’s not an aphrodisiac!
Mrs"I think the main reason men put "nice" on their profile (wether they are or not is another matter) is because of the constant stream of people posting statuses about horrible and abusive meets or messages. I really do think that for the majority feel forced to reassure potential partners. Obviously it's having the opposite effect. | |||
"1st of all, nobody said that only nasty guys get meets. The point about verification is perfectly valid in this situation because there are hundreds upon hundreds of profiles saying they won't meet verified. This means that there are many nice guys that don't get a look in or a chance to prove themselves. Mathematically impossible? There are things in life that are, but that doesn't apply to fab at all. I've been on and off fab many times before. The reason I haven't been verified this time around is to do with my approach. Chatting is more important to me than meeting so you won't find me bleating. I'm in agreement with both views. You are right and I am righter
It does get said an awful lot on the forums, including this thread, that nice guys don’t get meets. I take that statement to mean that those who do get meets will not be nice. I mean they can’t be nice if nice guys don’t get meets?
You are right its true that there are nice guys who don’t get a chance to prove themselves for a selection of reasons, including that of no verifications. This is arguably unfair (if it’s reasonable to regard peoples selection procedure as unfair). What I am trying to stress though is that it is not because they are nice that they don’t get meets. It might be because they don’t have verifications (which is a debate in itself), or it might be for any number of other reasons. But being nice is not the problem. And I’m sure you’re not saying that being nice is the problem, either. But others have said this, in this thread and other similar threads.
With regards to it being mathematically impossible for all men to get a meet, I did once do a calculation based on an estimated statistic as to how ‘busy’ every woman onFab (whether single or part of a couple) would need to be in order for each single man on a Fab to get sex once a year. I can’t remember what I came up with, but it did require all women on Fab to have a new partner at a rate that most would not be happy with. So maybe not mathematically impossible, but probably mathematically unrealistic.
Mrs
I told you it wasn't. mathematically impossible there's roughly 17 men to every woman, so if every woman met a new man every week all men would get a meet within 17 weeks.
Anyway, can you define "nice" for me?
Yes I remember now, we had this conversation before. So for a man to have sex from Fab once a year each woman would need to have a different sex partner about every 3 weeks. Which is obviously not going to happen, as many prefer repeat meets, and a lot women deviate towards the same men, so some men get a monopoly of women.
‘Nice’ for me is:
Turns up when he says he will
Replies to text messages
Organised with his diary
Pays his way
Talks to me
Makes me feel good
If each woman committed to having a new sexual partner every week, all the single guys would get a fuck within 17 weeks. Then the women could have a rest.
My point about. "nice" is that it's completely subjective. I suspect very few people on here would say they are not nice.
However, men who put themselves forward explicitly as "nice guys" are, in my view, to be avoided. They tend to be people with strong senses of entitlement who believe that because they are capable of being civil to a woman, she is under a moral obligation to fuck them.
That’s true. And I’m looking for a casual sex partner, so although I expect to be treated well, I’m looking for a guy who first and foremost turns me on. Just being nice ain’t gonna tempt me into bed - local vicar is nice, but I’m not going to sleep with him! Nice should be the norm, go without saying. It should not be used as a selling point on a sex site - it’s not an aphrodisiac!
Mrs"Exactly. The bottom line for single men here is don't be an arse, don't be whiny and, although this is a sex site, me capable of talking to women as human beings rather than breathing sex aids. If you do that and don't bang on about how nice you are, you'll probably get a shag | |||
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"1st of all, nobody said that only nasty guys get meets. The point about verification is perfectly valid in this situation because there are hundreds upon hundreds of profiles saying they won't meet verified. This means that there are many nice guys that don't get a look in or a chance to prove themselves. Mathematically impossible? There are things in life that are, but that doesn't apply to fab at all. I've been on and off fab many times before. The reason I haven't been verified this time around is to do with my approach. Chatting is more important to me than meeting so you won't find me bleating. I'm in agreement with both views. You are right and I am righter
It does get said an awful lot on the forums, including this thread, that nice guys don’t get meets. I take that statement to mean that those who do get meets will not be nice. I mean they can’t be nice if nice guys don’t get meets?
You are right its true that there are nice guys who don’t get a chance to prove themselves for a selection of reasons, including that of no verifications. This is arguably unfair (if it’s reasonable to regard peoples selection procedure as unfair). What I am trying to stress though is that it is not because they are nice that they don’t get meets. It might be because they don’t have verifications (which is a debate in itself), or it might be for any number of other reasons. But being nice is not the problem. And I’m sure you’re not saying that being nice is the problem, either. But others have said this, in this thread and other similar threads.
With regards to it being mathematically impossible for all men to get a meet, I did once do a calculation based on an estimated statistic as to how ‘busy’ every woman onFab (whether single or part of a couple) would need to be in order for each single man on a Fab to get sex once a year. I can’t remember what I came up with, but it did require all women on Fab to have a new partner at a rate that most would not be happy with. So maybe not mathematically impossible, but probably mathematically unrealistic.
Mrs
I told you it wasn't. mathematically impossible there's roughly 17 men to every woman, so if every woman met a new man every week all men would get a meet within 17 weeks.
Anyway, can you define "nice" for me?
Yes I remember now, we had this conversation before. So for a man to have sex from Fab once a year each woman would need to have a different sex partner about every 3 weeks. Which is obviously not going to happen, as many prefer repeat meets, and a lot women deviate towards the same men, so some men get a monopoly of women.
‘Nice’ for me is:
Turns up when he says he will
Replies to text messages
Organised with his diary
Pays his way
Talks to me
Makes me feel good
If each woman committed to having a new sexual partner every week, all the single guys would get a fuck within 17 weeks. Then the women could have a rest.
My point about. "nice" is that it's completely subjective. I suspect very few people on here would say they are not nice.
However, men who put themselves forward explicitly as "nice guys" are, in my view, to be avoided. They tend to be people with strong senses of entitlement who believe that because they are capable of being civil to a woman, she is under a moral obligation to fuck them.
That’s true. And I’m looking for a casual sex partner, so although I expect to be treated well, I’m looking for a guy who first and foremost turns me on. Just being nice ain’t gonna tempt me into bed - local vicar is nice, but I’m not going to sleep with him! Nice should be the norm, go without saying. It should not be used as a selling point on a sex site - it’s not an aphrodisiac!
Mrs
I think the main reason men put "nice" on their profile (wether they are or not is another matter) is because of the constant stream of people posting statuses about horrible and abusive meets or messages. I really do think that for the majority feel forced to reassure potential partners.
Obviously it's having the opposite effect."Thing is, there is a particular. "nice guy" culture, which with its whininess and sense of entitlement is just as much a turn off as the "fancy a fuck" merchants and serial cock pic senders. | |||
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"Nice guys finish last? Discuss.... Yes they do but it's due to their mindset. A nice guy would take care of a partner by spending his time cooking for them and that is seen as no effort. A not so nice guy puts in less time, buys interesting food crap and thats taken as a big effort on his part. One guy saves money the other guy spends it on crapthats even bigger bollocks Just because you don't agree doesn't make it bollocks. Out of the billions of women in the world do you expect them to find what you find nice and not nice exactly the same.but doing that is just normal. Everything said on this thread about "nice guys" is just treating people normally" Thats it in a nut shell. The world we live in doing the norm is seen as boring. Nice guys do the norm, not so nice guys don't. | |||
"Exactly. The bottom line for single men here is don't be an arse, don't be whiny and, although this is a sex site, me capable of talking to women as human beings rather than breathing sex aids. If you do that and don't bang on about how nice you are, you'll probably get a shag "Probably should be changed to might. Even if guys do what you said there's no guarantee they'll get a meet. I'm respectful to every woman I message, I don't act like a total dick, I don't piss and moan if I get rejected and I don't send dick pics. In the ten months I've been here, I haven't had a single meet. Attraction is obviously important, but even pretty faces attached to good bodies can be shit in bed. I know I'm no Chris Hemsworth and that's fine, I accept I'm not the best looking guy in the world. Because of that I know I have to catch a woman's attention in other ways so I use humour. If I do catch a woman's attention then you can be damn sure I'll do my hardest to keep their attention by being respectful, kind, funny and I pull out all the stops to satisfy them in bed because I know I've gotta work harder than a lot of other guys. I put the graft in basically. I don't think I'm some sort of god or anything like that, I'm just saying I try harder. But they don't know that because they just walk on by which is fair enough, but they could be passing up a diamond in the rough. You don't know what someone is like until you get to know them. | |||
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"Exactly. The bottom line for single men here is don't be an arse, don't be whiny and, although this is a sex site, me capable of talking to women as human beings rather than breathing sex aids. If you do that and don't bang on about how nice you are, you'll probably get a shag
Probably should be changed to might. Even if guys do what you said there's no guarantee they'll get a meet.
I'm respectful to every woman I message, I don't act like a total dick, I don't piss and moan if I get rejected and I don't send dick pics. In the ten months I've been here, I haven't had a single meet.
Attraction is obviously important, but even pretty faces attached to good bodies can be shit in bed.
I know I'm no Chris Hemsworth and that's fine, I accept I'm not the best looking guy in the world. Because of that I know I have to catch a woman's attention in other ways so I use humour. If I do catch a woman's attention then you can be damn sure I'll do my hardest to keep their attention by being respectful, kind, funny and I pull out all the stops to satisfy them in bed because I know I've gotta work harder than a lot of other guys. I put the graft in basically. I don't think I'm some sort of god or anything like that, I'm just saying I try harder.
But they don't know that because they just walk on by which is fair enough, but they could be passing up a diamond in the rough. You don't know what someone is like until you get to know them. "I understand what you’re saying but let me put it this way..... A woman/Couple/man has a fantasy of buying a exotic car. They can afford a Lamborghini, Ferrari, Aston Martin , and Rolls Royce. Why are they going to walk into a Ford Dealership? People want what they want. Swinging is a bloodsport , it’s win or lose... there is no prize for participating..... Once people understand this.. the swinging world will be better off... | |||
"Nice guys finish last? Discuss...." Absolutely agree | |||
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