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"Just call me Mikki" She answers to “oi “ too ![]() | |||
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"Just call me Mikki She answers to “oi “ too ![]() Ha,,i answer to no one ![]() | |||
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"Just call me Mikki She answers to “oi “ too ![]() ![]() ‘Cept ‘er indoors ![]() | |||
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"Just call me Mikki She answers to “oi “ too ![]() ![]() ![]() nope,,im out of control ![]() | |||
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"Just call me Mikki She answers to “oi “ too ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ah. She left you ![]() | |||
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"Might sound like a silly question but with TV /TS how do they / you like to be addressed as a man or as a woman? " Do you really need to ask. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Just call me Mikki She answers to “oi “ too ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() lol,,no , wow,,are you pretending you know me ![]() | |||
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"I like convincing tv's" most are an utter pain in the arse ![]() | |||
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"Haha I never no lol" i do like a "convincing" man they seem quite rare ![]() | |||
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"Haha I never no lol i do like a "convincing" man they seem quite rare ![]() Me too. Love a really convincing fella ![]() | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 15/04/18 00:40:38]" nah I'm far from convinced ![]() ![]() | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 15/04/18 00:40:38]" Aw. Did you suddenly think better of admitting you wanted oral with a tv? ![]() | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 15/04/18 00:40:38] Aw. Did you suddenly think better of admitting you wanted oral with a tv? ![]() oh i thought you was a woman ![]() | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 15/04/18 00:40:38] Aw. Did you suddenly think better of admitting you wanted oral with a tv? ![]() ![]() Neither he nor I were referring to me missy. ![]() | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 15/04/18 00:40:38] Aw. Did you suddenly think better of admitting you wanted oral with a tv? ![]() ![]() ![]() oh who was ya referring to? | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 15/04/18 00:40:38] Aw. Did you suddenly think better of admitting you wanted oral with a tv? ![]() ![]() ![]() Lol. I think he was talking generally. As was I ![]() | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 15/04/18 00:40:38] Aw. Did you suddenly think better of admitting you wanted oral with a tv? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() how do you know what he thinks | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 15/04/18 00:52:55]" no | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 15/04/18 00:40:38] Aw. Did you suddenly think better of admitting you wanted oral with a tv? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Woman’s intuition ![]() | |||
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"Might sound like a silly question but with TV /TS how do they / you like to be addressed as a man or as a woman? " In answer to the op; If they are presenting as female then you use the feminine terms; she, her etc. If they present as male..... you get the picture. You of course realise tv and TS can be male to female and also female to male. | |||
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"I am psychic and know someone is a caretaker. ![]() ive always been the caretaker ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I am psychic and know someone is a caretaker. ![]() ![]() ![]() She’s been cleaning up on here for years. ![]() | |||
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"The clue is in what im wearing ! . If I have a dress on then she , her , Chloe. .... if I have a days beard growth a pair of work boots and my work gear then it would have to be "he or oi " x" A truthfull answer .... id admire honesty . | |||
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"The clue is in what im wearing ! . If I have a dress on then she , her , Chloe. .... if I have a days beard growth a pair of work boots and my work gear then it would have to be "he or oi " x" This ![]() | |||
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"Be nice to eachother ... " We are.... in our own silly way. ![]() | |||
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"If any Tran gets annoyed at any guy for using the simple term He or Him, my advice to the guy is to move on,theres plenty of down to earth Trans out there that will happily serve all your needs and you theirs without all the Airs and Graces of the Little Britain Brigade..." Simple manners and respect cost nothing, I have no time for those that don't. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"If any Tran gets annoyed at any guy for using the simple term He or Him, my advice to the guy is to move on,theres plenty of down to earth Trans out there that will happily serve all your needs and you theirs without all the Airs and Graces of the Little Britain Brigade... Simple manners and respect cost nothing, I have no time for those that don't. ![]() ![]() Guys can show respect and manners without kowtowing to the whims and fancies of the Little Britain Brigade | |||
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"If any Tran gets annoyed at any guy for using the simple term He or Him, my advice to the guy is to move on,theres plenty of down to earth Trans out there that will happily serve all your needs and you theirs without all the Airs and Graces of the Little Britain Brigade... Simple manners and respect cost nothing, I have no time for those that don't. ![]() ![]() Welcome back Mara. I was only thinking the other day how non controversial these threads have been for a while. Missed your input xx | |||
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"If any Tran gets annoyed at any guy for using the simple term He or Him, my advice to the guy is to move on,theres plenty of down to earth Trans out there that will happily serve all your needs and you theirs without all the Airs and Graces of the Little Britain Brigade..." Fabulous response ![]() | |||
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"If any Tran gets annoyed at any guy for using the simple term He or Him, my advice to the guy is to move on,theres plenty of down to earth Trans out there that will happily serve all your needs and you theirs without all the Airs and Graces of the Little Britain Brigade... Fabulous response ![]() Nothing fab or true about that whatsoever,just a poor excuse for being an idiot. | |||
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"I like convincing tv's" Convincing them of what? | |||
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"Might sound like a silly question but with TV /TS how do they / you like to be addressed as a man or as a woman? " If you address someone by the gender they're presenting as, you can't go far wrong. If nothing else, it's common politeness. ![]() | |||
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"Might sound like a silly question but with TV /TS how do they / you like to be addressed as a man or as a woman? If you address someone by the gender they're presenting as, you can't go far wrong. If nothing else, it's common politeness. ![]() I agree some basic courtesy and manners is a good start. ![]() | |||
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"If any Tran gets annoyed at any guy for using the simple term He or Him, my advice to the guy is to move on,theres plenty of down to earth Trans out there that will happily serve all your needs and you theirs without all the Airs and Graces of the Little Britain Brigade... Simple manners and respect cost nothing, I have no time for those that don't. ![]() ![]() You keep referring to Little Britain...is that supposed to mean something. It reminds me of a man in a austin wearing driving gloves and pulling a caravan..... im not having a dig at those of you in the caravan club x | |||
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"If any Tran gets annoyed at any guy for using the simple term He or Him, my advice to the guy is to move on,theres plenty of down to earth Trans out there that will happily serve all your needs and you theirs without all the Airs and Graces of the Little Britain Brigade... Simple manners and respect cost nothing, I have no time for those that don't. ![]() ![]() Ha ha, yes I can see what you mean. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"If any Tran gets annoyed at any guy for using the simple term He or Him, my advice to the guy is to move on,theres plenty of down to earth Trans out there that will happily serve all your needs and you theirs without all the Airs and Graces of the Little Britain Brigade... Simple manners and respect cost nothing, I have no time for those that don't. ![]() ![]() Well Rachel as said plenty of we Transgendered folks dont have our heads stuck up our bottoms and accept the Guys just as they are... | |||
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"If any Tran gets annoyed at any guy for using the simple term He or Him, my advice to the guy is to move on,theres plenty of down to earth Trans out there that will happily serve all your needs and you theirs without all the Airs and Graces of the Little Britain Brigade... Simple manners and respect cost nothing, I have no time for those that don't. ![]() ![]() I'm as down to earth as they come, but any guy who addresses me as "him" or more appallingly "mate" when I'm on a girl day will know about it. It's not about being up myself, it's just courtesy. And if you allow them to do it without correction, or even saying "I'm ok with you saying that to me, but most girls aren't" then you're actually helping to cause the problem. | |||
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"If any Tran gets annoyed at any guy for using the simple term He or Him, my advice to the guy is to move on,theres plenty of down to earth Trans out there that will happily serve all your needs and you theirs without all the Airs and Graces of the Little Britain Brigade... Simple manners and respect cost nothing, I have no time for those that don't. ![]() ![]() It appears your are pretty much alone in your opinion on how we should accept guys just as they are, Mara. I for one, hate being misgendered. If it’s a genuine mistake I’ll let it pass but deliberate misgendering is disrespectful and a way of poking fun at people who have chosen to move along a very difficult path. | |||
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"As many have said, address them as they're presenting. If I'm in girl mode and someone calls me mate or pal it feels odd. Or just use their name if you know it If they are of the choose your own pronoun variety but didn't tell you that then you can't be expected to know. " Quite possibly people arent being intentionally disrespectful.Maybe it's just that first impressions count for a lot. If someone does not recognize or understand the term "presenting as female" (which is very much in the eye of the beholder) and just sees what he perceives as a man wearing a dress, then he is quite likely to address you as such. The thing is...he's not actually wrong,is he? | |||
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"As many have said, address them as they're presenting. If I'm in girl mode and someone calls me mate or pal it feels odd. Or just use their name if you know it If they are of the choose your own pronoun variety but didn't tell you that then you can't be expected to know. Quite possibly people arent being intentionally disrespectful.Maybe it's just that first impressions count for a lot. If someone does not recognize or understand the term "presenting as female" (which is very much in the eye of the beholder) and just sees what he perceives as a man wearing a dress, then he is quite likely to address you as such. The thing is...he's not actually wrong,is he?" yes | |||
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"As many have said, address them as they're presenting. If I'm in girl mode and someone calls me mate or pal it feels odd. Or just use their name if you know it If they are of the choose your own pronoun variety but didn't tell you that then you can't be expected to know. Quite possibly people arent being intentionally disrespectful.Maybe it's just that first impressions count for a lot. If someone does not recognize or understand the term "presenting as female" (which is very much in the eye of the beholder) and just sees what he perceives as a man wearing a dress, then he is quite likely to address you as such. The thing is...he's not actually wrong,is he?" I think the issue is one of respect. If someone talks in that way they either do not understand us or have no respect for us. Either way i would just avoid them...after all thats what the block button is for. | |||
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"If any Tran gets annoyed at any guy for using the simple term He or Him, my advice to the guy is to move on,theres plenty of down to earth Trans out there that will happily serve all your needs and you theirs without all the Airs and Graces of the Little Britain Brigade... Simple manners and respect cost nothing, I have no time for those that don't. ![]() ![]() I have given the Guys good advice based on decades of experience as a Transgendered person... Experience you lack, and it oft shows in your lengthy docuementaries on forums... | |||
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"As many have said, address them as they're presenting. If I'm in girl mode and someone calls me mate or pal it feels odd. Or just use their name if you know it If they are of the choose your own pronoun variety but didn't tell you that then you can't be expected to know. Quite possibly people arent being intentionally disrespectful.Maybe it's just that first impressions count for a lot. If someone does not recognize or understand the term "presenting as female" (which is very much in the eye of the beholder) and just sees what he perceives as a man wearing a dress, then he is quite likely to address you as such. The thing is...he's not actually wrong,is he?yes" I dont wish to seem unduly critical but it is quite possible that, if people are not getting it, that it is only you who condiders that you are 'presenting as female'. | |||
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"As many have said, address them as they're presenting. If I'm in girl mode and someone calls me mate or pal it feels odd. Or just use their name if you know it If they are of the choose your own pronoun variety but didn't tell you that then you can't be expected to know. Quite possibly people arent being intentionally disrespectful.Maybe it's just that first impressions count for a lot. If someone does not recognize or understand the term "presenting as female" (which is very much in the eye of the beholder) and just sees what he perceives as a man wearing a dress, then he is quite likely to address you as such. The thing is...he's not actually wrong,is he?" Err....yes, he is. Gender isn't defined by clothes. And unless said person has been living in a media vacuum for the past few years then they can't possibly be that ignorant, and are more likely just being passive/aggressively offensive. | |||
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"As many have said, address them as they're presenting. If I'm in girl mode and someone calls me mate or pal it feels odd. Or just use their name if you know it If they are of the choose your own pronoun variety but didn't tell you that then you can't be expected to know. Quite possibly people arent being intentionally disrespectful.Maybe it's just that first impressions count for a lot. If someone does not recognize or understand the term "presenting as female" (which is very much in the eye of the beholder) and just sees what he perceives as a man wearing a dress, then he is quite likely to address you as such. The thing is...he's not actually wrong,is he? Err....yes, he is. Gender isn't defined by clothes. And unless said person has been living in a media vacuum for the past few years then they can't possibly be that ignorant, and are more likely just being passive/aggressively offensive." You know and I know ,that gender is not defined by clothes but that guy is perceiving "person with penis..i.e. 'man' ".That will be what leads them to use the pronouns 'he' 'him' or 'his'. You can convince yoirself all you like that you are 'presenting female' but,It's obviously lost on some people and,if they are perceiving "person with penis" and you want them to perceive otherwise then,I'm sorry but,it's up to you to give that impression not for others to change the way they perceive you. Like I said,first impressions count for a lot.You only have a split second to make that impression and you dont get a second chance,it's almost impossible to change someones mind once they have formed that impression. | |||
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"As many have said, address them as they're presenting. If I'm in girl mode and someone calls me mate or pal it feels odd. Or just use their name if you know it If they are of the choose your own pronoun variety but didn't tell you that then you can't be expected to know. Quite possibly people arent being intentionally disrespectful.Maybe it's just that first impressions count for a lot. If someone does not recognize or understand the term "presenting as female" (which is very much in the eye of the beholder) and just sees what he perceives as a man wearing a dress, then he is quite likely to address you as such. The thing is...he's not actually wrong,is he?yes I dont wish to seem unduly critical but it is quite possible that, if people are not getting it, that it is only you who condiders that you are 'presenting as female'." So only pretty girls deserve respect? | |||
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"As many have said, address them as they're presenting. If I'm in girl mode and someone calls me mate or pal it feels odd. Or just use their name if you know it If they are of the choose your own pronoun variety but didn't tell you that then you can't be expected to know. Quite possibly people arent being intentionally disrespectful.Maybe it's just that first impressions count for a lot. If someone does not recognize or understand the term "presenting as female" (which is very much in the eye of the beholder) and just sees what he perceives as a man wearing a dress, then he is quite likely to address you as such. The thing is...he's not actually wrong,is he?yes I dont wish to seem unduly critical but it is quite possible that, if people are not getting it, that it is only you who condiders that you are 'presenting as female'. So only pretty girls deserve respect?" What a silly comment. | |||
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"If any Tran gets annoyed at any guy for using the simple term He or Him, my advice to the guy is to move on,theres plenty of down to earth Trans out there that will happily serve all your needs and you theirs without all the Airs and Graces of the Little Britain Brigade... Simple manners and respect cost nothing, I have no time for those that don't. ![]() ![]() Hunni i cant get over the size of your ego, you seem to think you are right on every subject even though you are in a minority of one. You come in here screaming for attention, and come across as a typical chat room bully who lacks even the basic social skills. God only knows why you think anyone would take advice from you. | |||
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"seperAs many have said, address them as they're presenting. If I'm in girl mode and someone calls me mate or pal it feels odd. Or just use their name if you know it If they are of the choose your own pronoun variety but didn't tell you that then you can't be expected to know. Quite possibly people arent being intentionally disrespectful.Maybe it's just that first impressions count for a lot. If someone does not recognize or understand the term "presenting as female" (which is very much in the eye of the beholder) and just sees what he perceives as a man wearing a dress, then he is quite likely to address you as such. The thing is...he's not actually wrong,is he? Err....yes, he is. Gender isn't defined by clothes. And unless said person has been living in a media vacuum for the past few years then they can't possibly be that ignorant, and are more likely just being passive/aggressively offensive. You know and I know ,that gender is not defined by clothes but that guy is perceiving "person with penis..i.e. 'man' ".That will be what leads them to use the pronouns 'he' 'him' or 'his'. You can convince yoirself all you like that you are 'presenting female' but,It's obviously lost on some people and,if they are perceiving "person with penis" and you want them to perceive otherwise then,I'm sorry but,it's up to you to give that impression not for others to change the way they perceive you. Like I said,first impressions count for a lot.You only have a split second to make that impression and you dont get a second chance,it's almost impossible to change someones mind once they have formed that impression. " It's not for them to change the way they perceive you, no. But perhaps instead of jumping in and getting it wrong, the person asks "how do you like to be addressed?" instead. That would be refreshing. | |||
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"seperAs many have said, address them as they're presenting. If I'm in girl mode and someone calls me mate or pal it feels odd. Or just use their name if you know it If they are of the choose your own pronoun variety but didn't tell you that then you can't be expected to know. Quite possibly people arent being intentionally disrespectful.Maybe it's just that first impressions count for a lot. If someone does not recognize or understand the term "presenting as female" (which is very much in the eye of the beholder) and just sees what he perceives as a man wearing a dress, then he is quite likely to address you as such. The thing is...he's not actually wrong,is he? Err....yes, he is. Gender isn't defined by clothes. And unless said person has been living in a media vacuum for the past few years then they can't possibly be that ignorant, and are more likely just being passive/aggressively offensive. You know and I know ,that gender is not defined by clothes but that guy is perceiving "person with penis..i.e. 'man' ".That will be what leads them to use the pronouns 'he' 'him' or 'his'. You can convince yoirself all you like that you are 'presenting female' but,It's obviously lost on some people and,if they are perceiving "person with penis" and you want them to perceive otherwise then,I'm sorry but,it's up to you to give that impression not for others to change the way they perceive you. Like I said,first impressions count for a lot.You only have a split second to make that impression and you dont get a second chance,it's almost impossible to change someones mind once they have formed that impression. It's not for them to change the way they perceive you, no. But perhaps instead of jumping in and getting it wrong, the person asks "how do you like to be addressed?" instead. That would be refreshing. " I always ask how would u like me to address u before I meet someone as it cuts out any awkward moment | |||
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"seperAs many have said, address them as they're presenting. If I'm in girl mode and someone calls me mate or pal it feels odd. Or just use their name if you know it If they are of the choose your own pronoun variety but didn't tell you that then you can't be expected to know. Quite possibly people arent being intentionally disrespectful.Maybe it's just that first impressions count for a lot. If someone does not recognize or understand the term "presenting as female" (which is very much in the eye of the beholder) and just sees what he perceives as a man wearing a dress, then he is quite likely to address you as such. The thing is...he's not actually wrong,is he? Err....yes, he is. Gender isn't defined by clothes. And unless said person has been living in a media vacuum for the past few years then they can't possibly be that ignorant, and are more likely just being passive/aggressively offensive. You know and I know ,that gender is not defined by clothes but that guy is perceiving "person with penis..i.e. 'man' ".That will be what leads them to use the pronouns 'he' 'him' or 'his'. You can convince yoirself all you like that you are 'presenting female' but,It's obviously lost on some people and,if they are perceiving "person with penis" and you want them to perceive otherwise then,I'm sorry but,it's up to you to give that impression not for others to change the way they perceive you. Like I said,first impressions count for a lot.You only have a split second to make that impression and you dont get a second chance,it's almost impossible to change someones mind once they have formed that impression. It's not for them to change the way they perceive you, no. But perhaps instead of jumping in and getting it wrong, the person asks "how do you like to be addressed?" instead. That would be refreshing. " You do realise of course is,that by wishing for people who perceive you as male to address you as female,you are asking for a fundamental sea change in commonly used language? Quite frankly,it's not me you need to be trying to convince (you're pretty much preaching to the converted with me), it's average Joe Public. You're going to need some pretty good arguments to change popular opinion to your way of thinking. | |||
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"seperAs many have said, address them as they're presenting. If I'm in girl mode and someone calls me mate or pal it feels odd. Or just use their name if you know it If they are of the choose your own pronoun variety but didn't tell you that then you can't be expected to know. Quite possibly people arent being intentionally disrespectful.Maybe it's just that first impressions count for a lot. If someone does not recognize or understand the term "presenting as female" (which is very much in the eye of the beholder) and just sees what he perceives as a man wearing a dress, then he is quite likely to address you as such. The thing is...he's not actually wrong,is he? Err....yes, he is. Gender isn't defined by clothes. And unless said person has been living in a media vacuum for the past few years then they can't possibly be that ignorant, and are more likely just being passive/aggressively offensive. You know and I know ,that gender is not defined by clothes but that guy is perceiving "person with penis..i.e. 'man' ".That will be what leads them to use the pronouns 'he' 'him' or 'his'. You can convince yoirself all you like that you are 'presenting female' but,It's obviously lost on some people and,if they are perceiving "person with penis" and you want them to perceive otherwise then,I'm sorry but,it's up to you to give that impression not for others to change the way they perceive you. Like I said,first impressions count for a lot.You only have a split second to make that impression and you dont get a second chance,it's almost impossible to change someones mind once they have formed that impression. It's not for them to change the way they perceive you, no. But perhaps instead of jumping in and getting it wrong, the person asks "how do you like to be addressed?" instead. That would be refreshing. " It's also pretty unlikely to happen,as a matter of course in general conversation. | |||
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"seperAs many have said, address them as they're presenting. If I'm in girl mode and someone calls me mate or pal it feels odd. Or just use their name if you know it If they are of the choose your own pronoun variety but didn't tell you that then you can't be expected to know. Quite possibly people arent being intentionally disrespectful.Maybe it's just that first impressions count for a lot. If someone does not recognize or understand the term "presenting as female" (which is very much in the eye of the beholder) and just sees what he perceives as a man wearing a dress, then he is quite likely to address you as such. The thing is...he's not actually wrong,is he? Err....yes, he is. Gender isn't defined by clothes. And unless said person has been living in a media vacuum for the past few years then they can't possibly be that ignorant, and are more likely just being passive/aggressively offensive. You know and I know ,that gender is not defined by clothes but that guy is perceiving "person with penis..i.e. 'man' ".That will be what leads them to use the pronouns 'he' 'him' or 'his'. You can convince yoirself all you like that you are 'presenting female' but,It's obviously lost on some people and,if they are perceiving "person with penis" and you want them to perceive otherwise then,I'm sorry but,it's up to you to give that impression not for others to change the way they perceive you. Like I said,first impressions count for a lot.You only have a split second to make that impression and you dont get a second chance,it's almost impossible to change someones mind once they have formed that impression. It's not for them to change the way they perceive you, no. But perhaps instead of jumping in and getting it wrong, the person asks "how do you like to be addressed?" instead. That would be refreshing. You do realise of course is,that by wishing for people who perceive you as male to address you as female,you are asking for a fundamental sea change in commonly used language? Quite frankly,it's not me you need to be trying to convince (you're pretty much preaching to the converted with me), it's average Joe Public. You're going to need some pretty good arguments to change popular opinion to your way of thinking." nasty I look at you and automatically think lady I look at some others and I don't know how I would address them if I hadn't talked to them before that's why communication is key maybe the cd TV TS tgshould inniciate how they want to be addressed by simply saying something along the lines hi I'm so and so but you can call me so and so tonight or am I over complicating it | |||
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"seperAs many have said, address them as they're presenting. If I'm in girl mode and someone calls me mate or pal it feels odd. Or just use their name if you know it If they are of the choose your own pronoun variety but didn't tell you that then you can't be expected to know. Quite possibly people arent being intentionally disrespectful.Maybe it's just that first impressions count for a lot. If someone does not recognize or understand the term "presenting as female" (which is very much in the eye of the beholder) and just sees what he perceives as a man wearing a dress, then he is quite likely to address you as such. The thing is...he's not actually wrong,is he? Err....yes, he is. Gender isn't defined by clothes. And unless said person has been living in a media vacuum for the past few years then they can't possibly be that ignorant, and are more likely just being passive/aggressively offensive. You know and I know ,that gender is not defined by clothes but that guy is perceiving "person with penis..i.e. 'man' ".That will be what leads them to use the pronouns 'he' 'him' or 'his'. You can convince yoirself all you like that you are 'presenting female' but,It's obviously lost on some people and,if they are perceiving "person with penis" and you want them to perceive otherwise then,I'm sorry but,it's up to you to give that impression not for others to change the way they perceive you. Like I said,first impressions count for a lot.You only have a split second to make that impression and you dont get a second chance,it's almost impossible to change someones mind once they have formed that impression. It's not for them to change the way they perceive you, no. But perhaps instead of jumping in and getting it wrong, the person asks "how do you like to be addressed?" instead. That would be refreshing. You do realise of course is,that by wishing for people who perceive you as male to address you as female,you are asking for a fundamental sea change in commonly used language? Quite frankly,it's not me you need to be trying to convince (you're pretty much preaching to the converted with me), it's average Joe Public. You're going to need some pretty good arguments to change popular opinion to your way of thinking." Yes well, why trans people are in the same place now as gay people in the 70's is an entirely different thread. | |||
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"seperAs many have said, address them as they're presenting. If I'm in girl mode and someone calls me mate or pal it feels odd. Or just use their name if you know it If they are of the choose your own pronoun variety but didn't tell you that then you can't be expected to know. Quite possibly people arent being intentionally disrespectful.Maybe it's just that first impressions count for a lot. If someone does not recognize or understand the term "presenting as female" (which is very much in the eye of the beholder) and just sees what he perceives as a man wearing a dress, then he is quite likely to address you as such. The thing is...he's not actually wrong,is he? Err....yes, he is. Gender isn't defined by clothes. And unless said person has been living in a media vacuum for the past few years then they can't possibly be that ignorant, and are more likely just being passive/aggressively offensive. You know and I know ,that gender is not defined by clothes but that guy is perceiving "person with penis..i.e. 'man' ".That will be what leads them to use the pronouns 'he' 'him' or 'his'. You can convince yoirself all you like that you are 'presenting female' but,It's obviously lost on some people and,if they are perceiving "person with penis" and you want them to perceive otherwise then,I'm sorry but,it's up to you to give that impression not for others to change the way they perceive you. Like I said,first impressions count for a lot.You only have a split second to make that impression and you dont get a second chance,it's almost impossible to change someones mind once they have formed that impression. It's not for them to change the way they perceive you, no. But perhaps instead of jumping in and getting it wrong, the person asks "how do you like to be addressed?" instead. That would be refreshing. You do realise of course is,that by wishing for people who perceive you as male to address you as female,you are asking for a fundamental sea change in commonly used language? Quite frankly,it's not me you need to be trying to convince (you're pretty much preaching to the converted with me), it's average Joe Public. You're going to need some pretty good arguments to change popular opinion to your way of thinking.nasty I look at you and automatically think lady I look at some others and I don't know how I would address them if I hadn't talked to them before that's why communication is key maybe the cd TV TS tgshould inniciate how they want to be addressed by simply saying something along the lines hi I'm so and so but you can call me so and so tonight or am I over complicating it" Exactly, if a person wants to be addressed differently to how other people perceive them then the onus is on them to ask,not for the beholder to suspend their perception. | |||
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"Penis - male Vagina - Female " I do love that you named yourself after the biggest transgender pride in the world. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"If any Tran gets annoyed at any guy for using the simple term He or Him, my advice to the guy is to move on,theres plenty of down to earth Trans out there that will happily serve all your needs and you theirs without all the Airs and Graces of the Little Britain Brigade... Simple manners and respect cost nothing, I have no time for those that don't. ![]() ![]() Sweetheart, I’ve been transgender all my life. You may look a lot older than me but I’m actual fact there is little between us. | |||
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"Penis - male Vagina - Female I do love that you named yourself after the biggest transgender pride in the world. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Sparkle - to shine or glisten with little gleams of light, as a brilliant gem; glitter; coruscate. | |||
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"If any Tran gets annoyed at any guy for using the simple term He or Him, my advice to the guy is to move on,theres plenty of down to earth Trans out there that will happily serve all your needs and you theirs without all the Airs and Graces of the Little Britain Brigade... Simple manners and respect cost nothing, I have no time for those that don't. ![]() ![]() You have not, until recently you presented yourself to me and others as a man, forum rules forbid me from going into details, | |||
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"My advice stands for the guys, if you come across a Tran that demands titles such as she and her, wants you to kowtow to her whims, gets angry... Then move on as s they got issues, theres plenty of we Transgendered folks that are down to earth that will accept you just as you are..." I think your just coming across as very desperate and obviously have no respect for yourself too. ![]() | |||
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"Penis - male Vagina - Female I do love that you named yourself after the biggest transgender pride in the world. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() So why sparkle ? ![]() | |||
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"If any Tran gets annoyed at any guy for using the simple term He or Him, my advice to the guy is to move on,theres plenty of down to earth Trans out there that will happily serve all your needs and you theirs without all the Airs and Graces of the Little Britain Brigade... Simple manners and respect cost nothing, I have no time for those that don't. ![]() ![]() So you haven’t read my lengthy documentaries after all then. You really are a very sad individual completely lacking in any self respect. Mara, I worry about you, to quote you. You are clearly a lost soul who has been through the mill. Feel free to pm. You know I’ll listen. | |||
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"like said you presented yourself to me as a man some time ago...Hence I sincerely believe that you are at best a part time transvestite nowadays,nothing wrong with that, we all got to start somewere..." Mara you really are a nasty little piece of work aren't you. I don't think I've ever seen you say anything remotely positive, just constantly inflammatory and outright insulting in some cases, this clearly being one of them. | |||
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"There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a part time Transvestite, it is a time honoured term and they are a valued part of the Trans community.. Thank you for revealing the contents of your character..." I can’t be arsed to justify myself to you. I’m on my own path. Changed my name, passport, driving licence. On hormones. Waiting for my next appointment with the gic. All the usual trans stuff. You keep waving your cock around and calling yourself a tranny. | |||
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"These threads always end “hang bags at dawn” and inter back biting at each other (I should know I’m a gob shite too) ... but to revert back to the OP’s original question .... if you don’t know how to address me ... then you’re simply not worth my time ... I’m also very comfortable in my own skin and I don’t take offence to whatever you wish to address me as, unless your being rude or nasty on purpose .... tho what and how it comes across in your original message will dictate my response .... I don’t do “male mode” tonight and that crap ..... my profile is jojo and that’s what you get..... nothing more nothing less ... but you can’t jump from one to another as you mood suits.... so no wonder guys get confused ... all through your own doing ... That’s just my own opinion .... " ![]() | |||
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"These threads always end “hang bags at dawn” and inter back biting at each other (I should know I’m a gob shite too) ... but to revert back to the OP’s original question .... if you don’t know how to address me ... then you’re simply not worth my time ... I’m also very comfortable in my own skin and I don’t take offence to whatever you wish to address me as, unless your being rude or nasty on purpose .... tho what and how it comes across in your original message will dictate my response .... I don’t do “male mode” tonight and that crap ..... my profile is jojo and that’s what you get..... nothing more nothing less ... but you can’t jump from one to another as you mood suits.... so no wonder guys get confused ... all through your own doing ... That’s just my own opinion .... " ![]() | |||
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"These threads always end “hang bags at dawn” and inter back biting at each other (I should know I’m a gob shite too) ... but to revert back to the OP’s original question .... if you don’t know how to address me ... then you’re simply not worth my time ... I’m also very comfortable in my own skin and I don’t take offence to whatever you wish to address me as, unless your being rude or nasty on purpose .... tho what and how it comes across in your original message will dictate my response .... I don’t do “male mode” tonight and that crap ..... my profile is jojo and that’s what you get..... nothing more nothing less ... but you can’t jump from one to another as you mood suits.... so no wonder guys get confused ... all through your own doing ... That’s just my own opinion .... ![]() This thread was aimed at asking what people wanted to be called. Everyone, bar one, wanted to be referred to as the gender they present as. | |||
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"These threads always end “hang bags at dawn” and inter back biting at each other (I should know I’m a gob shite too) ... but to revert back to the OP’s original question .... if you don’t know how to address me ... then you’re simply not worth my time ... I’m also very comfortable in my own skin and I don’t take offence to whatever you wish to address me as, unless your being rude or nasty on purpose .... tho what and how it comes across in your original message will dictate my response .... I don’t do “male mode” tonight and that crap ..... my profile is jojo and that’s what you get..... nothing more nothing less ... but you can’t jump from one to another as you mood suits.... so no wonder guys get confused ... all through your own doing ... That’s just my own opinion .... ![]() Sorry Rachael I wasn’t talking about you .... I was just talking in general but no wonder the “str8’s” (not all just the ones who’s are jel that we look better then them full stop) feel it acceptable to pull us down when we bitch between ourselves .... I don’t care if your a TV CD TS .... your human and no one has walked in your heels ... we all have stories to tell ... | |||
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"These threads always end “hang bags at dawn” and inter back biting at each other (I should know I’m a gob shite too) ... but to revert back to the OP’s original question .... if you don’t know how to address me ... then you’re simply not worth my time ... I’m also very comfortable in my own skin and I don’t take offence to whatever you wish to address me as, unless your being rude or nasty on purpose .... tho what and how it comes across in your original message will dictate my response .... I don’t do “male mode” tonight and that crap ..... my profile is jojo and that’s what you get..... nothing more nothing less ... but you can’t jump from one to another as you mood suits.... so no wonder guys get confused ... all through your own doing ... That’s just my own opinion .... ![]() it’s not aimed at anyone .... if it was I would say ... I don’t mince my words and say exactly what I think ... | |||
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"These threads always end “hang bags at dawn” and inter back biting at each other (I should know I’m a gob shite too) ... but to revert back to the OP’s original question .... if you don’t know how to address me ... then you’re simply not worth my time ... I’m also very comfortable in my own skin and I don’t take offence to whatever you wish to address me as, unless your being rude or nasty on purpose .... tho what and how it comes across in your original message will dictate my response .... I don’t do “male mode” tonight and that crap ..... my profile is jojo and that’s what you get..... nothing more nothing less ... but you can’t jump from one to another as you mood suits.... so no wonder guys get confused ... all through your own doing ... That’s just my own opinion .... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"These threads always end “hang bags at dawn” and inter back biting at each other (I should know I’m a gob shite too) ... but to revert back to the OP’s original question .... if you don’t know how to address me ... then you’re simply not worth my time ... I’m also very comfortable in my own skin and I don’t take offence to whatever you wish to address me as, unless your being rude or nasty on purpose .... tho what and how it comes across in your original message will dictate my response .... I don’t do “male mode” tonight and that crap ..... my profile is jojo and that’s what you get..... nothing more nothing less ... but you can’t jump from one to another as you mood suits.... so no wonder guys get confused ... all through your own doing ... That’s just my own opinion .... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I totally get that! And as I say what I think (hence I always put my opinion) haha ... if part time then maybe have a male profile and a T-Girl profile ... that way men who look at your pics then see a status “in male mode today” can get a bit confusing (well does me) ... but totally agree and I’m not wanting to marginalise (is there such a word ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Well this went downhill quick, seems to be a familiar theme that have threads with tvs inputting too much. Well done girls ![]() I think we all know the solitary tv who’s singing a different song to everyone else. | |||
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"Well this went downhill quick, seems to be a familiar theme that have threads with tvs inputting too much. Well done girls ![]() Agreed, and like you my driver's license and passport shows female. But I take exception to people having a pop at tgirls and Cds alike, as Jo Jo said live and let live and some people need to have respect for others and themselves too. ![]() | |||
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