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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life?" Can you not do day time meets or hotel meets? | |||
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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life? Can you not do day time meets or hotel meets?" Nope. lol | |||
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"Say you go to a hotel to fuck each other senseless... they'll never mention it again. " that’ll probably work Or just say, now they’re older, you’re playing catch up on your nights out. | |||
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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life?" Just say you've spent the night at a hotel. If if we're my parents that would be enough for me to not ask any more questions lol | |||
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"They're adults... tell them to mind their own business. I can see no reason why you should need to explain yourselves. We just say "out" and whether or not we'll be staying out overnight. Nita" Would not tell them that as I wouldn’t expect that reply from them either. If we’re out overnight it’s not a problem | |||
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"We are in exactly the same situation. We have adult kids at home and they are NEVER out overnight at the same time! We generally are able to meet a regular at their flat or we get a hotel. We arent big club fans but we could and have come home at ungodly hours before and if we are asked where we have been i just say thats our business. Definitely not easy having older kids at home " Think our main problem is that we’ve not really gone out much before and don’t really have any shared vanilla friends to hide behind! Lol | |||
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"Don't explain yourself. I tell my son I'm going out, see you later. " Why didn’t I think of that? | |||
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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life?" We had all these issues for a long time until we told them what we were doing | |||
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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life? We had all these issues for a long time until we told them what we were doing" Wow! Definitely not an option for us! Lol | |||
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"They're adults... tell them to mind their own business. I can see no reason why you should need to explain yourselves. We just say "out" and whether or not we'll be staying out overnight. Nita Would not tell them that as I wouldn’t expect that reply from them either. If we’re out overnight it’s not a problem " I didn't mean that was the exact way to phrase it... Nita | |||
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"I’m sure we’re not the only parents on here who don’t just piss off out for night without mentioning it to their teens. " No you're not. I used to give my mum the 3rd degree if she went out and didn't say anything. Go for the hotel line, or say you've been to a restaurant or something. | |||
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"I’m sure we’re not the only parents on here who don’t just piss off out for night without mentioning it to their teens. No you're not. I used to give my mum the 3rd degree if she went out and didn't say anything. Go for the hotel line, or say you've been to a restaurant or something. Thanks for your response. That’s what we generally do. But restaurants don’t stay open late enough. We just hope they’ve all gone out or to bed when we get in! " | |||
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"I’m sure we’re not the only parents on here who don’t just piss off out for night without mentioning it to their teens. " I think it's different if they are teens to adults. Teens maybe still need reassurance about where you are, in the same way you would for them. I got the impression from the original post that they were older. The child we have at home is 23 and has a life of his own. Yes it's only polite to let him know if we are staying our overnight, but that's about it. Though we've always had a good social life, which makes it easier. Nita | |||
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"I’m sure we’re not the only parents on here who don’t just piss off out for night without mentioning it to their teens. I think it's different if they are teens to adults. Teens maybe still need reassurance about where you are, in the same way you would for them. I got the impression from the original post that they were older. The child we have at home is 23 and has a life of his own. Yes it's only polite to let him know if we are staying our overnight, but that's about it. Though we've always had a good social life, which makes it easier. Nita" Ours range from 18-25. None of them are actually interested what we do! Just usually talked about in passing but is becoming increasingly difficult to explain as we would like to be going out more frequently. Who said it was easier when the kids get older? ..... | |||
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"I’m sure we’re not the only parents on here who don’t just piss off out for night without mentioning it to their teens. I think it's different if they are teens to adults. Teens maybe still need reassurance about where you are, in the same way you would for them. I got the impression from the original post that they were older. The child we have at home is 23 and has a life of his own. Yes it's only polite to let him know if we are staying our overnight, but that's about it. Though we've always had a good social life, which makes it easier. Nita Ours range from 18-25. None of them are actually interested what we do! Just usually talked about in passing but is becoming increasingly difficult to explain as we would like to be going out more frequently. Who said it was easier when the kids get older? ....." Unrelated but if I look a quarter as good as the fem in this couple in my 50s I'd be over the moon | |||
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"I’m sure we’re not the only parents on here who don’t just piss off out for night without mentioning it to their teens. I think it's different if they are teens to adults. Teens maybe still need reassurance about where you are, in the same way you would for them. I got the impression from the original post that they were older. The child we have at home is 23 and has a life of his own. Yes it's only polite to let him know if we are staying our overnight, but that's about it. Though we've always had a good social life, which makes it easier. Nita Ours range from 18-25. None of them are actually interested what we do! Just usually talked about in passing but is becoming increasingly difficult to explain as we would like to be going out more frequently. Who said it was easier when the kids get older? ....." You simply tell them that now that they are grown up you are going to go out and have fun... on your own as a couple. If you say it in the right way... that will be more than enough information Nita | |||
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"I’m sure we’re not the only parents on here who don’t just piss off out for night without mentioning it to their teens. I think it's different if they are teens to adults. Teens maybe still need reassurance about where you are, in the same way you would for them. I got the impression from the original post that they were older. The child we have at home is 23 and has a life of his own. Yes it's only polite to let him know if we are staying our overnight, but that's about it. Though we've always had a good social life, which makes it easier. Nita Ours range from 18-25. None of them are actually interested what we do! Just usually talked about in passing but is becoming increasingly difficult to explain as we would like to be going out more frequently. Who said it was easier when the kids get older? ..... Unrelated but if I look a quarter as good as the fem in this couple in my 50s I'd be over the moon " I think we're all thinking that! To the OP, what about inventing a new evening hobby like dancing? | |||
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" Unrelated but if I look a quarter as good as the fem in this couple in my 50s I'd be over the moon " AMEN! | |||
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"I’m sure we’re not the only parents on here who don’t just piss off out for night without mentioning it to their teens. " We both have mobile phones, so our kids (both over 18) can get hold of us if there is a problem. We tell them if we expect to be back late, or out overnight, and that's all they need to know. If the question us, we just say we are out with friends, and because we have never questioned them about when they go out, they don't question us. | |||
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"They're adults... tell them to mind their own business. I can see no reason why you should need to explain yourselves. We just say "out" and whether or not we'll be staying out overnight. Nita Would not tell them that as I wouldn’t expect that reply from them either. If we’re out overnight it’s not a problem " That's a fair point. Do you ask details of where they go when they go out at night? If not then just point that out to them. You're all adults. | |||
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"They have probably already hacked your computer and already know what you are doing and where you are going." well that would make things easier! Lol | |||
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"Do true. We also have the same issue. It definitely is getting harder to come up with good/believable reasons. Late dinner with work colleagues in London, a friends 50th, nightclubbing in London. But there are only so many times you can use these lines. But at least you know you aren’t alone " This is exactly what we sound like! Nice to know someone feels the same! | |||
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"Do true. We also have the same issue. It definitely is getting harder to come up with good/believable reasons. Late dinner with work colleagues in London, a friends 50th, nightclubbing in London. But there are only so many times you can use these lines. But at least you know you aren’t alone This is exactly what we sound like! Nice to know someone feels the same!" school reunion, followed by catching up with old school mates. Have done this in our vanilla lives, so perfectly feasible | |||
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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life?" Why are you allowing your grown up adult offspring, dictate your life? Would they like it if you did the same to them? I suspect Not! What you both do is your business. They're adults and you aren't legally responsible for them any more. They ought to mind their own. Personally once mine reach 21 and in full time work, they're moving out! Each to their own and all that jazz but just my opinion on what I'd do if I were in your shoes. | |||
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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life? Why are you allowing your grown up adult offspring, dictate your life? Would they like it if you did the same to them? I suspect Not! What you both do is your business. They're adults and you aren't legally responsible for them any more. They ought to mind their own. Personally once mine reach 21 and in full time work, they're moving out! Each to their own and all that jazz but just my opinion on what I'd do if I were in your shoes." How old are your kids? How would you feel about them knowing what you do? | |||
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"Say you go to a hotel to fuck each other senseless... they'll never mention it again. " This definitely lol | |||
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"Just develop a new interest, say you are going to a gathering like meetup, and from there you have met some nice people with whom you are going to socialise more with. There can be a few people there who you enjoy going out with which would explain going out more; a different social invitation from different people each week and then go back to the beginning. "We haven't seen (insert name here) since the beginning of the month, we simply must catch up with them." " Thank you for your helpful comments. This is kind of the way we’re working it atm. | |||
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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life? Why are you allowing your grown up adult offspring, dictate your life? Would they like it if you did the same to them? I suspect Not! What you both do is your business. They're adults and you aren't legally responsible for them any more. They ought to mind their own. Personally once mine reach 21 and in full time work, they're moving out! Each to their own and all that jazz but just my opinion on what I'd do if I were in your shoes. How old are your kids? How would you feel about them knowing what you do?" Sorry but my kids are none of your business. Any adult has no business interfering in my private personal life... kids or not. I also did not say anywhere OP should tell her kids where they're going. I said her adult kids have no business in knowing what their parents do. They don't need to know and nor do they need to be told. If OP wants to accomodate, then better for them to tell their adult offspring to stand on their own two feet, bank of mum and dad has closed so move out. Lol. | |||
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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life? Why are you allowing your grown up adult offspring, dictate your life? Would they like it if you did the same to them? I suspect Not! What you both do is your business. They're adults and you aren't legally responsible for them any more. They ought to mind their own. Personally once mine reach 21 and in full time work, they're moving out! Each to their own and all that jazz but just my opinion on what I'd do if I were in your shoes." Wouldn’t say they dictate our lives in anyway. We still do what we want to do. Guess we’re just an ‘odd’ sort of family that show an interest in what eachother are doing and enjoy chatting to one another. | |||
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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life? Why are you allowing your grown up adult offspring, dictate your life? Would they like it if you did the same to them? I suspect Not! What you both do is your business. They're adults and you aren't legally responsible for them any more. They ought to mind their own. Personally once mine reach 21 and in full time work, they're moving out! Each to their own and all that jazz but just my opinion on what I'd do if I were in your shoes. Wouldn’t say they dictate our lives in anyway. We still do what we want to do. Guess we’re just an ‘odd’ sort of family that show an interest in what eachother are doing and enjoy chatting to one another. " An openminded family? Why not tell them what you do? They may only be grossed out because it's their parents involved lol. Think of all those sex parties you could have once they leave home! Make your neighbours jealous lol | |||
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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life? Why are you allowing your grown up adult offspring, dictate your life? Would they like it if you did the same to them? I suspect Not! What you both do is your business. They're adults and you aren't legally responsible for them any more. They ought to mind their own. Personally once mine reach 21 and in full time work, they're moving out! Each to their own and all that jazz but just my opinion on what I'd do if I were in your shoes. Wouldn’t say they dictate our lives in anyway. We still do what we want to do. Guess we’re just an ‘odd’ sort of family that show an interest in what eachother are doing and enjoy chatting to one another. An openminded family? Why not tell them what you do? They may only be grossed out because it's their parents involved lol. Think of all those sex parties you could have once they leave home! Make your neighbours jealous lol" Lol. They think I’m the Virgin Mary!! | |||
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"My kids know. They have my passwords to everything. I had an open Fab , tab on my phone in a restaurant that was a fun conversation at dinner. My friend didn’t know where to look lol I don’t bring any one home though. Personally if I could, I’m not sure I would. I like the two separate. " Ha. Don’t think ours would believe us even if we did tell them!! | |||
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"My kids know. They have my passwords to everything. I had an open Fab , tab on my phone in a restaurant that was a fun conversation at dinner. My friend didn’t know where to look lol I don’t bring any one home though. Personally if I could, I’m not sure I would. I like the two separate. Ha. Don’t think ours would believe us even if we did tell them!!" You shouldn't under estimate your kids they may be open minded and happy for you and your life style. You never know they may give you the house to your self if you wanted to host a party | |||
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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life?" Our issue exactly and watching thread for any hints and tips. | |||
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"My kids know. They have my passwords to everything. I had an open Fab , tab on my phone in a restaurant that was a fun conversation at dinner. My friend didn’t know where to look lol I don’t bring any one home though. Personally if I could, I’m not sure I would. I like the two separate. Ha. Don’t think ours would believe us even if we did tell them!!" She said mum , I thought you had to be married to be a swinger. I don’t think I would of told them. | |||
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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life?" this is exactly our position | |||
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"I’ve just got the youngest left with me and he’s 22 I think he secretly knows what’s going on cos of the hints he throws .... but I just say I’m out back later or I’m staying out .... yep does get to e a pain when they are older " But then my partner passed away 18months ago so I have the added issue of that .... even though we had talked about this issue before he died and he told me to carry on ... my son doesn’t know that though | |||
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"How about your tell them that once a month you are going to a hotel for the night to have some romantic quality time now that the kids have grown up. Mrs" This is what we do.... | |||
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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life?" we are exactly like you,15&16 yr old girls at home,eldest is like a mother,we did not go out much before fab and have to come up with reasons like birtday party invite,retirement do etc.not easy and both on phones more at home.tough on our profile as we only meet if we're at a club.tricky,out this sat,for them its a retirement do | |||
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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life? Why are you allowing your grown up adult offspring, dictate your life? Would they like it if you did the same to them? I suspect Not! What you both do is your business. They're adults and you aren't legally responsible for them any more. They ought to mind their own. Personally once mine reach 21 and in full time work, they're moving out! Each to their own and all that jazz but just my opinion on what I'd do if I were in your shoes." | |||
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"Thank you to those of you who posted a thoughtful reply to our predicament lol! I was not asking for general parenting advice. Going for evenings out and even staying away poses no problem for us either. The issue for us is how not to arouse suspicion when returning home in the early hours when obviously no bars or restaurants would still be open!" We tend to pass comment of just being at friends houses. They don't know all of our friends. I try to just keep it simple. They don't ask for more. Foxy x | |||
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"Thank you to those of you who posted a thoughtful reply to our predicament lol! I was not asking for general parenting advice. Going for evenings out and even staying away poses no problem for us either. The issue for us is how not to arouse suspicion when returning home in the early hours when obviously no bars or restaurants would still be open! We tend to pass comment of just being at friends houses. They don't know all of our friends. I try to just keep it simple. They don't ask for more. Foxy x" This is what we generally say. Problem is we are actually going out more and more frequently! Lol | |||
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"Thank you to those of you who posted a thoughtful reply to our predicament lol! I was not asking for general parenting advice. Going for evenings out and even staying away poses no problem for us either. The issue for us is how not to arouse suspicion when returning home in the early hours when obviously no bars or restaurants would still be open! We tend to pass comment of just being at friends houses. They don't know all of our friends. I try to just keep it simple. They don't ask for more. Foxy x This is what we generally say. Problem is we are actually going out more and more frequently! Lol" Thats our issue, even though neither live at home now, the fact were away alot ok most weekends daughter has called us swingers - we've just brushed it off | |||
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"I once came home at 2.30am expecting my 19 year old son to be asleep but he was still up. He looked me up and down and said "You're not wearing anything under that coat are you?". " Haha. Love it!! | |||
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"Thank you to those of you who posted a thoughtful reply to our predicament lol! I was not asking for general parenting advice. Going for evenings out and even staying away poses no problem for us either. The issue for us is how not to arouse suspicion when returning home in the early hours when obviously no bars or restaurants would still be open! We tend to pass comment of just being at friends houses. They don't know all of our friends. I try to just keep it simple. They don't ask for more. Foxy x This is what we generally say. Problem is we are actually going out more and more frequently! Lol Thats our issue, even though neither live at home now, the fact were away alot ok most weekends daughter has called us swingers - we've just brushed it off " I’m sure the pure fact she said it means that’s the last thing she really expects! lol | |||
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"Thank you to those of you who posted a thoughtful reply to our predicament lol! I was not asking for general parenting advice. Going for evenings out and even staying away poses no problem for us either. The issue for us is how not to arouse suspicion when returning home in the early hours when obviously no bars or restaurants would still be open! We tend to pass comment of just being at friends houses. They don't know all of our friends. I try to just keep it simple. They don't ask for more. Foxy x This is what we generally say. Problem is we are actually going out more and more frequently! Lol Thats our issue, even though neither live at home now, the fact were away alot ok most weekends daughter has called us swingers - we've just brushed it off I’m sure the pure fact she said it means that’s the last thing she really expects! lol " Said it a few times before Xmas as she came home & we said going out to friends party, next morning text - hope you enjoyed your swingers party - replied did thank you lol | |||
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"Thank you to those of you who posted a thoughtful reply to our predicament lol! I was not asking for general parenting advice. Going for evenings out and even staying away poses no problem for us either. The issue for us is how not to arouse suspicion when returning home in the early hours when obviously no bars or restaurants would still be open! We tend to pass comment of just being at friends houses. They don't know all of our friends. I try to just keep it simple. They don't ask for more. Foxy x This is what we generally say. Problem is we are actually going out more and more frequently! Lol Thats our issue, even though neither live at home now, the fact were away alot ok most weekends daughter has called us swingers - we've just brushed it off I’m sure the pure fact she said it means that’s the last thing she really expects! lol Said it a few times before Xmas as she came home & we said going out to friends party, next morning text - hope you enjoyed your swingers party - replied did thank you lol" Oh. Shit! | |||
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"Thank you to those of you who posted a thoughtful reply to our predicament lol! I was not asking for general parenting advice. Going for evenings out and even staying away poses no problem for us either. The issue for us is how not to arouse suspicion when returning home in the early hours when obviously no bars or restaurants would still be open! We tend to pass comment of just being at friends houses. They don't know all of our friends. I try to just keep it simple. They don't ask for more. Foxy x This is what we generally say. Problem is we are actually going out more and more frequently! Lol Thats our issue, even though neither live at home now, the fact were away alot ok most weekends daughter has called us swingers - we've just brushed it off I’m sure the pure fact she said it means that’s the last thing she really expects! lol Said it a few times before Xmas as she came home & we said going out to friends party, next morning text - hope you enjoyed your swingers party - replied did thank you lol Oh. Shit! " I know | |||
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"There is of course the option of hiding in plain sight OP and jokingly saying "Oh we're off to a Swingers Club" and laughing - has the double impact of cutting them dead and answering them honestly at the same time, whilst making a joke out of it - as they'll be "Can't believe our Mum and Dad would do that sort of thing" " Ha We did once meet a guy who used to announce to his colleagues, when asked what he was up to at the weekend, that he was going to an orgy.. Of course no-one believed him!! Not sure it’s such a good approach for us though? Lol | |||
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"There is of course the option of hiding in plain sight OP and jokingly saying "Oh we're off to a Swingers Club" and laughing - has the double impact of cutting them dead and answering them honestly at the same time, whilst making a joke out of it - as they'll be "Can't believe our Mum and Dad would do that sort of thing" Ha We did once meet a guy who used to announce to his colleagues, when asked what he was up to at the weekend, that he was going to an orgy.. Of course no-one believed him!! Not sure it’s such a good approach for us though? Lol" Ha ha too funny - what prompted the suggestion was someone I know who used to do the same....I wonder | |||
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"Meeting up with old friends whose kids have left home... Double bubble on that one, you get out and drop a big hint. Doesn't work with ours though " | |||
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"As borrowed from some friends we've met, "Quiz night!" can be very good. Sometimes you have to travel a way and will be back late, sometimes you'll be meeting with other friends to form a team, and you might be out overnight as you would be having a couple of drinks. Totally reasonable." | |||
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"Just develop a new interest, say you are going to a gathering like meetup, and from there you have met some nice people with whom you are going to socialise more with. There can be a few people there who you enjoy going out with which would explain going out more; a different social invitation from different people each week and then go back to the beginning. "We haven't seen (insert name here) since the beginning of the month, we simply must catch up with them." Thank you for your helpful comments. This is kind of the way we’re working it atm. " Just tell them that you’ve met a terrific bunch of social folks who are into Latin dance (and they’re teaching you) they hold regular game nights and have a bar in their house. You’ve realised you’ve been missing out on your adult social lives so you’re going to be out having fun, staying over or late back... Yes, the Latin dance DOES require glamorous high heels, stockings... All you need are a couple or two to cover for you, provide excuses etc. Enjoy!! | |||
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"I really don’t know why you feel the need to explain what you do. I certainly wouldn’t! " Exactly this. I just tell my kids I’m going out. It’s what I get from them. No need for details. You’re entitled to a private life. | |||
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"Just develop a new interest, say you are going to a gathering like meetup, and from there you have met some nice people with whom you are going to socialise more with. There can be a few people there who you enjoy going out with which would explain going out more; a different social invitation from different people each week and then go back to the beginning. "We haven't seen (insert name here) since the beginning of the month, we simply must catch up with them." Thank you for your helpful comments. This is kind of the way we’re working it atm. Just tell them that you’ve met a terrific bunch of social folks who are into Latin dance (and they’re teaching you) they hold regular game nights and have a bar in their house. You’ve realised you’ve been missing out on your adult social lives so you’re going to be out having fun, staying over or late back... Yes, the Latin dance DOES require glamorous high heels, stockings... All you need are a couple or two to cover for you, provide excuses etc. Enjoy!!" OMG! I actually would love this to be true!!! | |||
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"You are definitely not alone on this one! We should collate a list of reasons (or should I say excuses) to relay to our enquiring little Sherlocks the morning after " Might be a short list!! | |||
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"We have exactly the same problem. When we go out to a club we normally leave the house at 9pm and may not get back until after 3am. There really is no reason we can give that would stand up to any scrutiny with our kids. We like to chat to them about their friends and what they have been up to etc. Equally they like to know the same about us - we just have to hope that they don't ask us too many questions! We normally say we are going to a party with old work friends who live miles away - but that story is beginning to wear a bit thin. The other related problem is that as our kids are both pretty sporty we often have to be up early on Saturdays and Sundays and so a very late night doesn't work too well on many weekends. We are beginning to think that socials and hotel meets might work a bit better timings-wise? It is definitely a tricky one, especially as it happens to couples just at the point when they thought they would have more freedom to please themselves!" . Exactly this. We’re beginning to think that by the time we’re truly free agents we’ll be past it! Lol | |||
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"Tell them not to be so fucking nosey. Seems you are making a big deal out of having a life. Do you question them if/when they go out? " Yes I am a parent. | |||
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"Tell them not to be so fucking nosey. Seems you are making a big deal out of having a life. Do you question them if/when they go out? Yes I am a parent. " You want to know all the details? | |||
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"Difficult one this, how about a sudden interest in something you know they hate (classical music for example), you could have a pressing need to go to Manchester for example to listen to your favourite orchestra (plenty of time to cover the finish at ten and home at 3 angle) and also covers the need to dress up" Now why didn’t I think of that?! | |||
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"Tell them not to be so fucking nosey. Seems you are making a big deal out of having a life. Do you question them if/when they go out? Yes I am a parent. You want to know all the details? " I don’t think having an interest in your children’s lives or them having an interest in your life is being nosey. To have grown children that have become friends and that are interested in your life shouts of damn good parenting. I don’t think the OP “has” to explain or answer to their children, more like not wantinf to cause suspicion or change the pattern of their relationship. Good luck OP. Hope you find something that works for you XX | |||
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"Tell them not to be so fucking nosey. Seems you are making a big deal out of having a life. Do you question them if/when they go out? Yes I am a parent. You want to know all the details? I don’t think having an interest in your children’s lives or them having an interest in your life is being nosey. To have grown children that have become friends and that are interested in your life shouts of damn good parenting. I don’t think the OP “has” to explain or answer to their children, more like not wantinf to cause suspicion or change the pattern of their relationship. Good luck OP. Hope you find something that works for you XX " Thank you for your thoughtful post and actually understanding where I’m coming from with this. Some people seem to just be offering ‘good’ parenting advice which isn’t really what I was asking for in my original post. | |||
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"Tell them not to be so fucking nosey. Seems you are making a big deal out of having a life. Do you question them if/when they go out? Yes I am a parent. You want to know all the details? I don’t think having an interest in your children’s lives or them having an interest in your life is being nosey. To have grown children that have become friends and that are interested in your life shouts of damn good parenting. I don’t think the OP “has” to explain or answer to their children, more like not wantinf to cause suspicion or change the pattern of their relationship. Good luck OP. Hope you find something that works for you XX Thank you for your thoughtful post and actually understanding where I’m coming from with this. Some people seem to just be offering ‘good’ parenting advice which isn’t really what I was asking for in my original post. " I dont understand why you’re asking a bunch of strangers what excuse you should give your kids so you can go out and enjoy your secret life! I remember my parents when they had reached a certain age going out a lot and we never asked them about it as it was considered their private business. I’m sure you’ll find a good reason and not upset the Apple cart! Good luck OP.... | |||
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"Tell them not to be so fucking nosey. Seems you are making a big deal out of having a life. Do you question them if/when they go out? Yes I am a parent. You want to know all the details? I don’t think having an interest in your children’s lives or them having an interest in your life is being nosey. To have grown children that have become friends and that are interested in your life shouts of damn good parenting. I don’t think the OP “has” to explain or answer to their children, more like not wantinf to cause suspicion or change the pattern of their relationship. Good luck OP. Hope you find something that works for you XX Thank you for your thoughtful post and actually understanding where I’m coming from with this. Some people seem to just be offering ‘good’ parenting advice which isn’t really what I was asking for in my original post. I dont understand why you’re asking a bunch of strangers what excuse you should give your kids so you can go out and enjoy your secret life! I remember my parents when they had reached a certain age going out a lot and we never asked them about it as it was considered their private business. I’m sure you’ll find a good reason and not upset the Apple cart! Good luck OP.... " Thanks. Although they never actually ask us! Lol We’re not looking for an excuse as such. Just have family courtesies that extend to letting each other know approximately when we’re all in or out. I hope too that we’ll eventually be as successful at working it out as you have been! | |||
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"We have been honest and told our two older teen agers. Our eldest even baby sat for a couple we went out with. Life is life. Sex is sex don't skirt around things. " That’s your prerogative of course. But people have different views to be respected. I appreciate that many are happy for everyone, friends and family, to know their lifestyle choices and totally accept that. But a large proportion of swingers like to keep it separate from their regular lives. | |||
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"Tell them not to be so fucking nosey. Seems you are making a big deal out of having a life. Do you question them if/when they go out? Yes I am a parent. You want to know all the details? I don’t think having an interest in your children’s lives or them having an interest in your life is being nosey. To have grown children that have become friends and that are interested in your life shouts of damn good parenting. I don’t think the OP “has” to explain or answer to their children, more like not wantinf to cause suspicion or change the pattern of their relationship. Good luck OP. Hope you find something that works for you XX Thank you for your thoughtful post and actually understanding where I’m coming from with this. Some people seem to just be offering ‘good’ parenting advice which isn’t really what I was asking for in my original post. I dont understand why you’re asking a bunch of strangers what excuse you should give your kids so you can go out and enjoy your secret life! I remember my parents when they had reached a certain age going out a lot and we never asked them about it as it was considered their private business. I’m sure you’ll find a good reason and not upset the Apple cart! Good luck OP.... Thanks. Although they never actually ask us! Lol We’re not looking for an excuse as such. Just have family courtesies that extend to letting each other know approximately when we’re all in or out. I hope too that we’ll eventually be as successful at working it out as you have been!" I understand. In that case maybe ‘invent’ a new hobby like learning Samba, Salsa etc and with Strictly so popular it’s current topic, then from that hobby you have met loads of new friends from it, salsa parties, trips further afield etc. You could really confuse them with some technical reference to dance. | |||
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"We have been honest and told our two older teen agers. Our eldest even baby sat for a couple we went out with. Life is life. Sex is sex don't skirt around things. " I find that a bit weird. Glad it works for you though | |||
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"Don't invent something too far from the truth or they'll catch you out lying. Just tell them that now they're adults you enjoy your own social life with your own circle of friends... So you go out, sometimes late, sometimes staying over... To bars, events, friends houses, nights on the town... Sometimes date nights for the two of you, sometimes with friends. If necessary you can say... You respect them as adults and don't pry / interrogate them about what they're up to. " Thats how we've approached it, even though we've always gone out at weekends think that we've new friends and go away more has roused suspicion with daughter, son more reserved would not question | |||
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"Don't invent something too far from the truth or they'll catch you out lying. Just tell them that now they're adults you enjoy your own social life with your own circle of friends... So you go out, sometimes late, sometimes staying over... To bars, events, friends houses, nights on the town... Sometimes date nights for the two of you, sometimes with friends. If necessary you can say... You respect them as adults and don't pry / interrogate them about what they're up to. " I think this is a fair summary and to be honest don't understand some of the negative comments on the thread - the OP was asking people in a similar situation to them (of which I am sure there are many on this site) what they had done to avoid awkward questions from their kids - and kids being kids (regardless of their age) are very good at asking awkward questions!! Hope you work something out OP | |||
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"I once came home at 2.30am expecting my 19 year old son to be asleep but he was still up. He looked me up and down and said "You're not wearing anything under that coat are you?". Haha. Love it!!" That's not even funny. That's a total brass neck x | |||
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" Guess we’re just an ‘odd’ sort of family that show an interest in what eachother are doing and enjoy chatting to one another. " Most people would have that, it doesn't mean you have to tell them about your sex life if you didn't want to | |||
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" Thanks. Although they never actually ask us! Lol !" It sounds like it is more the fact that because you know where you are going that you are jumpy in case they ask. As long as you had an answer for them I don't think it would matter what it was to them | |||
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"Don't invent something too far from the truth or they'll catch you out lying. Just tell them that now they're adults you enjoy your own social life with your own circle of friends... So you go out, sometimes late, sometimes staying over... To bars, events, friends houses, nights on the town... Sometimes date nights for the two of you, sometimes with friends. If necessary you can say... You respect them as adults and don't pry / interrogate them about what they're up to. I think this is a fair summary and to be honest don't understand some of the negative comments on the thread - the OP was asking people in a similar situation to them " To which people answered, why is that negative? | |||
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" Thanks. Although they never actually ask us! Lol ! It sounds like it is more the fact that because you know where you are going that you are jumpy in case they ask. As long as you had an answer for them I don't think it would matter what it was to them " I totally agree with this, it’s probably you OP who is jumpy because you know where you are going. Just chill. I’m sure it will all work out well but continue enjoying the lifestyle | |||
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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life? Just say you've spent the night at a hotel. If if we're my parents that would be enough for me to not ask any more questions lol " This. Just say that you appreciate that the last thing they want to hear is their parents' noisy sex life and intimacy together shoved in their faces and figured as they're older and don't need you in the house with them overnight any more in case they fall down the stairs or burn the place down, it's time for the pair of you to enjoy what you enjoy doing to each other more. They'll believe you and will have probably shut their ears to the "horrors" assaulting them before you even finish. And you'll never ever have to explain yourself again. | |||
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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life? Just say you've spent the night at a hotel. If if we're my parents that would be enough for me to not ask any more questions lol This. Just say that you appreciate that the last thing they want to hear is their parents' noisy sex life and intimacy together shoved in their faces and figured as they're older and don't need you in the house with them overnight any more in case they fall down the stairs or burn the place down, it's time for the pair of you to enjoy what you enjoy doing to each other more. They'll believe you and will have probably shut their ears to the "horrors" assaulting them before you even finish. And you'll never ever have to explain yourself again. " My daughter is gay and when she came out to me aged 22, I said "we're quite the non hetero normative family" "you're hetero normative" she said "really" I said "do you want to know about my love life?" "NO!!!!!!! " | |||
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"So our biggest barrier to our swinging is our kids. All grown up but still at home. Getting a free house is a rarity and usually last minute but we can successfully accommodate occasionally. However, what we are finding more difficult is visiting clubs. Returning home in the early hours is becoming a tricky one to explain particularly as we never really went out that much before ‘Fab’. There are only so many ‘parties’ we can attend!! How does everyone else cope with their double life?" As the home owner and parent..."I'm not here now, see you later." I've never felt the need to explain anything to my adult children who lived in my house free. | |||
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"They're adults... tell them to mind their own business. I can see no reason why you should need to explain yourselves. We just say "out" and whether or not we'll be staying out overnight. Nita" Really is that simple isn't it! | |||
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"Tell them not to be so fucking nosey. Seems you are making a big deal out of having a life. Do you question them if/when they go out? Yes I am a parent. You want to know all the details? I don’t think having an interest in your children’s lives or them having an interest in your life is being nosey. To have grown children that have become friends and that are interested in your life shouts of damn good parenting. I don’t think the OP “has” to explain or answer to their children, more like not wantinf to cause suspicion or change the pattern of their relationship. Good luck OP. Hope you find something that works for you XX Thank you for your thoughtful post and actually understanding where I’m coming from with this. Some people seem to just be offering ‘good’ parenting advice which isn’t really what I was asking for in my original post. I dont understand why you’re asking a bunch of strangers what excuse you should give your kids so you can go out and enjoy your secret life! I remember my parents when they had reached a certain age going out a lot and we never asked them about it as it was considered their private business. I’m sure you’ll find a good reason and not upset the Apple cart! Good luck OP.... Thanks. Although they never actually ask us! Lol We’re not looking for an excuse as such. Just have family courtesies that extend to letting each other know approximately when we’re all in or out. I hope too that we’ll eventually be as successful at working it out as you have been!" I'm confused. You said it's tricky to explain and now you say that they never ask? Also, I was not questioning your relationship with your children not parenting I was simply curious to know why details you would really want from your children and their nights. You can simply say, I'm going out I'll be back at such a time or I'll be staying out. As an adult surely that is all they need to know? You have phones right? | |||
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"Whilst I see where you’re coming from with the ‘mind your own business’ approach, it’s tricky when returning so late. They’ve never quizzed us on it, and like I said they don’t particularly care, but if we’re out til the early hours I don’t think it’s unreasonable for them to comment on it. They know we don’t have friends whom we socialise with. Hence the difficulty!" Make new friends up - in the next town or something and yous take it turn to drive there hence why you get home late So when it’s your time to have your imaganary friends over - tell the kids to feck off and stay with friends. That way at least you get the house to yourselves for a few hours. | |||
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"Don't know what it's like for others, but in our house the norm is for everyone to chat about where they've been, what they've been doing, etc. Nothing intrusive, no-one demanding information, it's just part of the usual banter. If it's the same for the Op, then I understand completely that saying 'mind your own business' would seem really odd and more than a bit rude. Much better to have a boring little cover story that doesn't generate further questions." Ano I find it weird that if you go a night out whether its the parent or children that the question "how was your night" doesn't come up and you tell your family about it. Still think going out to a social club/pub and socialising and getting friends is the way to go. They get used to you going out and then you can say you are with friends you met at there. My mum and dad go to friends houses and come in at 2 in the morning x | |||
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"If you are going out in town with friends, tell them you are out with friends. If you go away for the weekend, tell them you are away for the weekend. When did you ever tell yr kids you are going to bed for sex so why would you think it's strange now just due to having others in your bed too. It's not a secret or double life, just how people over think things." | |||
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"Don't know what it's like for others, but in our house the norm is for everyone to chat about where they've been, what they've been doing, etc. Nothing intrusive, no-one demanding information, it's just part of the usual banter. If it's the same for the Op, then I understand completely that saying 'mind your own business' would seem really odd and more than a bit rude. Much better to have a boring little cover story that doesn't generate further questions." so why can't you say where you have been and how lovely the night was. Like I said in the last post you don't have to tell people everything that happens. You wouldn't go on to say after we had a lovely meal mum n dad went to our lovely hotel room and shagged each others brains out, surely the conversation would stop at the point you said then we went off to bed. We tell all our family where we are going how nice a night or weekend we had with friends. If we went to a night club and had a dance, just don't say swingers club. After all they are night clubs. | |||
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"If you are going out in town with friends, tell them you are out with friends. If you go away for the weekend, tell them you are away for the weekend. When did you ever tell yr kids you are going to bed for sex so why would you think it's strange now just due to having others in your bed too. It's not a secret or double life, just how people over think things." | |||
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"Don't know what it's like for others, but in our house the norm is for everyone to chat about where they've been, what they've been doing, etc. Nothing intrusive, no-one demanding information, it's just part of the usual banter. If it's the same for the Op, then I understand completely that saying 'mind your own business' would seem really odd and more than a bit rude. Much better to have a boring little cover story that doesn't generate further questions.so why can't you say where you have been and how lovely the night was. Like I said in the last post you don't have to tell people everything that happens. You wouldn't go on to say after we had a lovely meal mum n dad went to our lovely hotel room and shagged each others brains out, surely the conversation would stop at the point you said then we went off to bed. We tell all our family where we are going how nice a night or weekend we had with friends. If we went to a night club and had a dance, just don't say swingers club. After all they are night clubs. " Sorry, missing your point completely. You seem to be saying that you don't tell them the truth. That's what we do. | |||
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"There is of course the option of hiding in plain sight OP and jokingly saying "Oh we're off to a Swingers Club" and laughing - has the double impact of cutting them dead and answering them honestly at the same time, whilst making a joke out of it - as they'll be "Can't believe our Mum and Dad would do that sort of thing" " This. Of course if they're curious you can give them more details, and be the coolest parent around. Possibly | |||
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"Don't invent something too far from the truth or they'll catch you out lying. Just tell them that now they're adults you enjoy your own social life with your own circle of friends... So you go out, sometimes late, sometimes staying over... To bars, events, friends houses, nights on the town... Sometimes date nights for the two of you, sometimes with friends. If necessary you can say... You respect them as adults and don't pry / interrogate them about what they're up to. I think this is a fair summary and to be honest don't understand some of the negative comments on the thread - the OP was asking people in a similar situation to them (of which I am sure there are many on this site) what they had done to avoid awkward questions from their kids - and kids being kids (regardless of their age) are very good at asking awkward questions!! Hope you work something out OP " Yep that’s it! Thank you | |||
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"Imagine some of your older kids went down the road of swinging and decided to turn on nearest phone location and it showed with in 10 meters of you..how do you explain that? " Does every member have phone location switched on? | |||
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"The first thing I did when I signed up here was to see if my parents were on here. I wouldn’t give three shits if they were. More fun to them, I say!! " How would you have recognised them? | |||
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"The first thing I did when I signed up here was to see if my parents were on here. I wouldn’t give three shits if they were. More fun to them, I say!! How would you have recognised them? " If they took pics at home (decor). Face pics? A few things I suppose | |||
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"The first thing I did when I signed up here was to see if my parents were on here. I wouldn’t give three shits if they were. More fun to them, I say!! How would you have recognised them? If they took pics at home (decor). Face pics? A few things I suppose" Oh right I see. They may be here lol and had photos took in a hotel etc. | |||
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"The first thing I did when I signed up here was to see if my parents were on here. I wouldn’t give three shits if they were. More fun to them, I say!! How would you have recognised them? If they took pics at home (decor). Face pics? A few things I suppose Oh right I see. They may be here lol and had photos took in a hotel etc. " They might. I hope they are. They’d love the social! Lol | |||
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"The first thing I did when I signed up here was to see if my parents were on here. I wouldn’t give three shits if they were. More fun to them, I say!! How would you have recognised them? If they took pics at home (decor). Face pics? A few things I suppose Oh right I see. They may be here lol and had photos took in a hotel etc. They might. I hope they are. They’d love the social! Lol" The guy that told me about Fab knew his parents were on Fab too! | |||
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"Why do you need to explain anything? As you said they are grown up, just tell them to mind their own business..... unless you badger them to find out what they get up to, where they go and who with. Yeah...but it's in the parent manual to mither. " My son asked once, just once, where we were going. I told him we were going to a club where I could get d*unk and dance naked on the tables...... his friends found it hilarious, him not so much. He never asked again | |||
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"Why do you need to explain anything? As you said they are grown up, just tell them to mind their own business..... unless you badger them to find out what they get up to, where they go and who with. Yeah...but it's in the parent manual to mither. My son asked once, just once, where we were going. I told him we were going to a club where I could get d*unk and dance naked on the tables...... his friends found it hilarious, him not so much. He never asked again " Brilliant | |||
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"Option A: Tell the kids the truth. Option B: You entitaled to what ever social life you want. You don't need to answer to your kids why your going out more and what your doing out." There are some things you just don’t tell kids! They think that anyone over 30 has no sex life! | |||
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"For us it typically goes something like this: A few days before Saturday (it’s usually a Saturday): Us: Hey daughter, we’re out this Saturday evening and not sure when we’ll be back, so please take the dog for a walk before bedtime. Daughter: OK. Where you going? Us: Just popping down to (place) to have dinner with some old work friends. Daughter: OK Sunday morning (actually, more likely afternoon – she’s a teenager after all): Daughter: How was your evening? Us: It was nice, but we didn’t get back until late so we’re a bit tired. Daughter: OK. I’m starving, what can I have to eat? " | |||
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"Option A: Tell the kids the truth. Option B: You entitaled to what ever social life you want. You don't need to answer to your kids why your going out more and what your doing out. There are some things you just don’t tell kids! They think that anyone over 30 has no sex life! " My children were a bit funny I moved Ben in as we were a rather conservative family. There was something "odd" leaving the house the same time as my daughter and her husband: them going to all night prayers whilst Ben and I headed for the swingers club! They would have moved out sooner if they'd known! | |||
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"kids are worse than parents for trying to run your life and keep tabs on what you are up to ... only have to be out five mins before a txt to say where are you, we just dont answer lol" Probably the parents fault for pampering them so long! some of these adult kids can’t do anything for themselves. | |||
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"kids are worse than parents for trying to run your life and keep tabs on what you are up to ... only have to be out five mins before a txt to say where are you, we just dont answer lol Probably the parents fault for pampering them so long! some of these adult kids can’t do anything for themselves. " | |||
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"kids are worse than parents for trying to run your life and keep tabs on what you are up to ... only have to be out five mins before a txt to say where are you, we just dont answer lol Probably the parents fault for pampering them so long! some of these adult kids can’t do anything for themselves. " no definitly not pampered they just know how bad we can be... | |||
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"kids are worse than parents for trying to run your life and keep tabs on what you are up to ... only have to be out five mins before a txt to say where are you, we just dont answer lol Probably the parents fault for pampering them so long! some of these adult kids can’t do anything for themselves. no definitly not pampered they just know how bad we can be... " | |||
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"kids are worse than parents for trying to run your life and keep tabs on what you are up to ... only have to be out five mins before a txt to say where are you, we just dont answer lol Probably the parents fault for pampering them so long! some of these adult kids can’t do anything for themselves. no definitly not pampered they just know how bad we can be... " have been told off in the past for drinking too much playing the music too loud at 2 am when they have school in the morning and keeping them awake ... we are bad lol | |||
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"kids are worse than parents for trying to run your life and keep tabs on what you are up to ... only have to be out five mins before a txt to say where are you, we just dont answer lol Probably the parents fault for pampering them so long! some of these adult kids can’t do anything for themselves. no definitly not pampered they just know how bad we can be... have been told off in the past for drinking too much playing the music too loud at 2 am when they have school in the morning and keeping them awake ... we are bad lol" Noooooo really? You are shocking! Bet you have been rollocked for dad dancing too? | |||
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"kids are worse than parents for trying to run your life and keep tabs on what you are up to ... only have to be out five mins before a txt to say where are you, we just dont answer lol Probably the parents fault for pampering them so long! some of these adult kids can’t do anything for themselves. no definitly not pampered they just know how bad we can be... have been told off in the past for drinking too much playing the music too loud at 2 am when they have school in the morning and keeping them awake ... we are bad lol Noooooo really? You are shocking! Bet you have been rollocked for dad dancing too? " lol did get asked once when they got up for school ,you are up early ... our answer no we are up late we are bad lol | |||
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