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Bareback... again. Sorry!

By *ldhillhotwife OP Couple over a year ago

Old Hill

As a couple we are sane and sensible people and generally make good choices. On the subject of bareback we are struggling. We talk to loads of couples (younger and older than us) in the bbc/gb side of the lifestyle who have gone over to bareback and have repeated negative test results for STI's.

We very rarely bareback but if the guy is a regular we sometimes go with the flow but within a club at greedy girls or gangbang events we have stuck to safe sex. We regularly get tested and have never been positive for anything.

Thus far neither of us have both been tempted to agree to bareback during gangbangs but its a regular topic of conversation for us. I would love to do a proper gangbang with them able to cum inside me.

Do any other couples/women have this nagging wish or have gone over to bareback and have you had any positive or negative experiences to share?

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By *onnie And Clyde9070Couple over a year ago

Leeds

"As a couple we are sane and sensible people and generally make good choices. On the subject of bareback we are struggling. We talk to loads of couples (younger and older than us) in the bbc/gb side of the lifestyle who have gone over to bareback and have repeated negative test results for STI's.

Do any other couples/women have this nagging wish or have gone over to bareback and have you had any positive or negative experiences to share?

Sx"

Never in a million years.

We value our health too much.

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By *lorious hole bs16Man over a year ago

Bristol

I suspect a lot more people are having bareback than we think..

Some of the hysteria is reminiscent of the early 1980's.

This shames people into denial.

I also feel the so called dangers are exaggerated and most sti's are easily treated..

For myself,I practice safer sex almost 99% of the time, tho its much easier for me as I am not really into fucking.As a result people's history is none of my business.

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By *uninlondon69Man over a year ago

Tower Bridge South

I've done plenty of bareback gangbangs and I think I once caught a cold. I'm not saying there is no risk involved but for me the risk is low enough for me to enjoy it.

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By *uzie69xTV/TS over a year ago

Maidstone

"Do any other couples/women have this nagging wish or have gone over to bareback and have you had any positive or negative experiences to share?

Some do, some don't - occasionally or absolutely... this is all about Risk Assessment and Management. All our miles vary and risk assessment is a very personal thing.

If you are a young couple planning a family in the future, then getting something as treatable as chlamydia could make you infertile if caught too late.

Catching anything is not pleasant. Some bacterial (gonorrhea, syphilis) or bug infections (crabs), you can clear completely. For viral infections (hepatitis) you can't rid. You either develop anti-bodies or a virus like HIV you have to take life-long drugs treatments to control the virus multiplying.

Unprotected anal sex is more risky than virginal. So this is another risk factor to consider.

In forums like this, talking about Bareback Sex is like talking to a toddler about crossing the road. You always say never unless a "green man" but we all jay walk.

Smokers, drinkers or a keen Motor-cyclist - these are risky activities yet millions do it with a sense of danger but in the end, you'll have to conclude: yes I took a risk but it was / wasn't worth it...

Personally I would NEVER do bareback anal sex in group setting. Its just too risky. But I've done 121 BB with guys I've gotten to know and I get checked out every three months. This is how I manage my personal assessed risks.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Only di bareback with ur own partner never with ppl you meet off here to risky

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By *uzie69xTV/TS over a year ago

Maidstone

"Only di bareback with ur own partner never with ppl you meet off here to risky "

As I've said: In forums like this, talking about Bareback Sex is like talking to a toddler about crossing the road. You always say never unless a "green man" but we all jay walk.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I do bareback mostly, I have condoms if required by males. I would like to do a gangbang but it's bareback risk that puts me off. Not logical I know. XXX

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I do bareback mostly, I have condoms if required by males. I would like to do a gangbang but it's bareback risk that puts me off. Not logical I know. XXX"

It says on your profile safe sex ! I can’t see where you have it that you play mostly bareback ..

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By *est Wales WifeCouple over a year ago

Near Carmarthen

" and most sti's are easily treated..

????

Can I suggest that you search for 'drug-resistant gonorrhoea.'

“We are markedly concerned about the rise in antibiotic resistant gonorrhoea in the UK,” said Prof Claudia Estcourt, a member of the British Association for Sexual Health and HIV.

I won't bother listing the others that are not treatable such as HIV (which although in most cases can now be controlled it cannot be cured).

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It really depends on circumstances and how comfortable you are with the risks. Everyone has different risk levels. For me, I have a chronic illness that plays havoc with my immune system - so even a small infection is not good for me. I also have extreme anxiety and OCD, and it's just not worth it for me. So I play as safe as I possibly can.

Regardless of what some people say, there are risks. I actually know someone who got HIV from a split condom from a one night stand. My ex cheated and gave me gonorrhoea which turned into PID. Some strains of gonorrhoea are becoming resistant to antibiotics. I would suggest doing some proper research and considering what you would do in the worst case situation - and then making whatever choice feels right to you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not for all the tea in China would we bareback. Surprisingly we do get asked alot answer is always the same NO

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

NO WAY IN A MILLION YEARS

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By *iversong321Woman over a year ago

Preston/Merseyside

" and most sti's are easily treated..

????

Can I suggest that you search for 'drug-resistant gonorrhoea.'

“We are markedly concerned about the rise in antibiotic resistant gonorrhoea in the UK,” said Prof Claudia Estcourt, a member of the British Association for Sexual Health and HIV.

I won't bother listing the others that are not treatable such as HIV (which although in most cases can now be controlled it cannot be cured)."

Lets hope all the people who got this in the Manchester area last year got treated.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Having read a lot of BB threads on here and the various 'for and against' arguments, there are a lot of people who say they get tested regularly and always come back clean, including the lady who does van meets and has had over 600 men (cant remember her name). This makes me wonder if STI's are really that rampant and widespread.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Having read a lot of BB threads on here and the various 'for and against' arguments, there are a lot of people who say they get tested regularly and always come back clean, including the lady who does van meets and has had over 600 men (cant remember her name). This makes me wonder if STI's are really that rampant and widespread. "

They SAY they are tested regularly but it’s a trust thing .. it’s playing Russian roulette with your health .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Nope.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

we are bareback only and get tested every 2 weeks we have never caught anything in over 10 years

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They SAY they are tested regularly but it’s a trust thing .. it’s playing Russian roulette with your health . "

True, I guess it boils down to trust your gut instinct whenever you meet someone. All depends how much you want to play BB and weighing up the risks.

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By *hocko87Man over a year ago

dublin

As much as I rather bareback . I would be afraid to do it with complete strangers and in a gang situation too . What about the risk of pregnancy too . I got the snip years ago . So I can't make a woman pregnant. With a regular friend I would go bareback .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bare back play is not an option for me personally, but each to there own I know some lovely people who only play bare back and never caught anything.

Which seems to be a common thing in this thread, which means it’s all the non-swingers that have the STD’s and STI’s lol.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just a thought...

If there were less people jumping on the bandwagon of condemnation, people would be able to freely state that they choose to bareback.

This in turn would allow a frank and open discussion without fear of attack or prejudice.

Those who prefer to go au naturelle can quietly go about their business without having to hide their preference. People can make an informed decision without having to go detective on people's verifications, backtracking through every verification and those persons verifications in turn, waiting to find that hidden barebacker in the collective history.

People calculate their own risks. If they don't, and will bareback anyone and everyone, at least we'll know?

Granted, the healthy exchange of ideas can be an education, however the bareback/russian roulette dance has been done to death. Can't we all move on?

If you want to bareback, crack on.

If you don't want to bareback, awesome.

If you are one of those cunts who want to stealth, wise up, that isn't your decision to make.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm thinking there's a reason that sti's are less prevalent these days

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By *tonMessCouple over a year ago

Slough Windsor ish

Not for us but we love this kind of thread... helps with filtering those who do inspire of profile insistence they only play safe.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe reason why nhs are very busy at the clinics .It's on the rise of people catching something .Might be more people spreading stuff and not getting checked up.

Silly idiots who go bareback.

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By *edonismproMan over a year ago

Essex

"it’s playing Russian roulette with your health . "

If the barrel has 800 chambers and only one bullet in it. That turn of phrase makes it sound far more risky than it actually is.

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By *ve 66Woman over a year ago

Blackwood

Before I ever came on here I caught Trichonomos which the doctor said can be caught with condom on... Never felt so dirty in my life

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By *abulously curiousCouple over a year ago

manchester

Part of my fantasy is to c a woman leak my man's cum after he's fucked her. Guess that will stay fantasy x

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By *unandbuckCouple over a year ago

Sheffield

In 2016, there were 420,000 new cases of STIs diagnosed. Syphilis rates were at the highest rate since 1949. That's fairly widespread.

We play safe and get tested and come back clean. I don't get the logic of concluding it must therefore be safe to go bb.

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By *iversong321Woman over a year ago

Preston/Merseyside

"I'm thinking there's a reason that sti's are less prevalent these days

....and that is?

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By *.A.MGUY55Man over a year ago

Rochdale

The thought about bareback turns a lot of ppl on but in Gangbang situation is stay safe

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By *adja_lazloCouple over a year ago

Solihull

" and most sti's are easily treated..

????

Can I suggest that you search for 'drug-resistant gonorrhoea.'

“We are markedly concerned about the rise in antibiotic resistant gonorrhoea in the UK,” said Prof Claudia Estcourt, a member of the British Association for Sexual Health and HIV.

I won't bother listing the others that are not treatable such as HIV (which although in most cases can now be controlled it cannot be cured)."

Yup, never gonna happen for us, safe always for the reasons above

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I do bareback mostly, I have condoms if required by males. I would like to do a gangbang but it's bareback risk that puts me off. Not logical I know. XXX

It says on your profile safe sex ! I can’t see where you have it that you play mostly bareback .."
there u go

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"we are bareback only and get tested every 2 weeks we have never caught anything in over 10 years "

You get tested every two weeks?

I hope you have to pay towards the cost of the tests and the time you take with medical professionals?

No wonder that getting an appointment is so difficult and walk in clinics are very busy!

We are all adults and are capable of making our own choices. Live and let live.

And remember, if you knowingly pass something on you are liable for prosecution!!

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By *unandbuckCouple over a year ago

Sheffield

"it’s playing Russian roulette with your health .

If the barrel has 800 chambers and only one bullet in it. That turn of phrase makes it sound far more risky than it actually is."

For Chlamydia it's actually a 40% chance of getting infected for one unprotected sexual encounter. The deadly STDs luckily have a a lower one-time chance.

But even if it was 1 in 800, let's say you swing just once per month, and have sex with just one person on that occasion. The risk is then 1 in 66 over the year. Then you swing for 5 years. The risk then is 1 in 13 over the period.

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A man local too me a photographer is in jail he was prosecuted for spreading HiV .

In my opinion People who go bareback must catch something but won't be able to tell everyone as if very active .how will they ? I think this is why things spread .My friend works in a one too one centre and she sees same faces week after week who are very active .Got too look after yourself and stay safe .its quite scarry as i see threads and observing how many do actually go bareback .Don't trust anyone only yourself .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have never been lucky enough to find a bareback couple!! Amy couples help

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By *eviantdeliteWoman over a year ago

Cheltenham

"I suspect a lot more people are having bareback than we think..."

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By *hoenixandflamesCouple over a year ago

Stockport

She seems to have disappeared - but I have to wonder about her testing regime.

As there was what, 600 veris, how many people didn't veri!

Flames

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By * very big boyMan over a year ago

south east clacton

i love it but do weer condoms 2

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

She seems to have disappeared - but I have to wonder about her testing regime.

As there was what, 600 veris, how many people didn't veri!

Flames

We have also seen this profile before and it was over 600 meets in a van with strangers bareback. She will probably appear again and may well state that she only plays safe and is new to the scene. So you you would have no idea of her history just like you have no idea of anyone’s history we meet. But to often people seeem to read veris and profiles and make a judgement on the risks based on that alone. We always play safe and whilst synical believe everyone is lying when they say they play safe as take steps to protect ourselves with the assumption they may be carrying something.

Bit off subject I know but we would in a ideal world play bareback but for us the risks are too high.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bareback is something I only do with hubby and vice versa. In the past I've been stupid and had unprotected sex and luckily I was ok and negative.

Never again will I go through that worry and uncertainty.

Not criticising anyone who does has that's up to them but I do wish folks would be more honest on profiles.

Had one guy message in the past saying safe sex then messaged wanting bareback.

If you've been swinging as long as me you've seen all the horrors and heard all the stories of what can happen!

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

She seems to have disappeared - but I have to wonder about her testing regime.

As there was what, 600 veris, how many people didn't veri!

Flames

The van lady has not disappeared at all. She's still here, not as a single anymore but as one half of a couple profile.

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By *opsy RogersWoman over a year ago

London

She seems to have disappeared - but I have to wonder about her testing regime.

As there was what, 600 veris, how many people didn't veri!

Flames

Don’t forget the men slagging her off for being a ‘slag’ and then meeting her for bb sex.

Her husband found out and she moved out of their home. She offered that info on the forum admin, before you think I’ve broken a confidence.

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

She seems to have disappeared - but I have to wonder about her testing regime.

As there was what, 600 veris, how many people didn't veri!

Flames

Don’t forget the men slagging her off for being a ‘slag’ and then meeting her for bb sex.

Her husband found out and she moved out of their home. She offered that info on the forum admin, before you think I’ve broken a confidence."

She never disappeared though, as some people claim.

She's remarried and still on here.

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By *opsy RogersWoman over a year ago

London

She seems to have disappeared - but I have to wonder about her testing regime.

As there was what, 600 veris, how many people didn't veri!

Flames

Don’t forget the men slagging her off for being a ‘slag’ and then meeting her for bb sex.

Her husband found out and she moved out of their home. She offered that info on the forum admin, before you think I’ve broken a confidence.

She never disappeared though, as some people claim.

She's remarried and still on here. "

That must have been some quick divorce and marriage! Good luck to them both, I support her right to choose what she does with her body.

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

She seems to have disappeared - but I have to wonder about her testing regime.

As there was what, 600 veris, how many people didn't veri!

Flames

Don’t forget the men slagging her off for being a ‘slag’ and then meeting her for bb sex.

Her husband found out and she moved out of their home. She offered that info on the forum admin, before you think I’ve broken a confidence.

She never disappeared though, as some people claim.

She's remarried and still on here.

That must have been some quick divorce and marriage! Good luck to them both, I support her right to choose what she does with her body."

Yes its her choice, though I will advice Safe Sex.

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By *hoenixandflamesCouple over a year ago

Stockport

The van lady has not disappeared at all. She's still here, not as a single anymore but as one half of a couple profile. "

Ahh cool for her

(I certainly wasn't judgemental of her)

Flames

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By *uited staffs guyMan over a year ago

staffordshire

Contact with other human beings carries risk of infection - we just have to deal with it

Influenza kills every year, STIs exist etc - we can’t pretned we live in a sterile world, we don’t - we share our environment and bodies with billions of bacteria and viruses - condoms reduce the risk of an STI but don’t stop them

So if you’re really that scared of HIV or gonrorhea etc then the best safest advice is stop having sex off here - otherwise just accept that what you’re doing puts you at risk and psychologically we all have to deal with that - where we choose to draw the line for that risk, bareback GBs, single B.B., condoms vs soft swing only etc is up to the individual but nothing is risk free on here - even driving to the club can be fatal

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By *ootleCouple over a year ago

Romford, Essex

Personally OP, we wouldn’t do it – but it is a choice thing, if your OK with it fine, it’s not for us (or for anyone else) to criticise.

You only have two choices ‘you do’ or ‘you don’t’. If you’re worried about getting an STI, well that’s a lottery thing, and again you have two choices, you accept the odds or you don’t.

Because you are on here asking the question you obviously have your doubts so we think you already know what your decision will be – we follow our own 'gut-instincts' which has resulted in us never regretting any of our actions since being in this lifestyle.

As for someone saying they are regularly checked and clear of STI’s, the only way we would believe them is if we went to the clinic with them, watched them being tested and the doctor personally handed us the results – and that’s not going to happen is it !

Go with your own instincts, as you say you are ‘sane and sensible’ just add ‘not-naïve’ to that quote.

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By *raceytvcdTV/TS over a year ago

mansfield

"A man local too me a photographer is in jail he was prosecuted for spreading HiV .

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By *errysMan over a year ago

milton keynes and kent

Forgive me if ive missed the point, but isn't testing after bareback a bit late ?

Surely the only way testing works is if all envolved are tested before sex a couple of times with a no sex gap between tests and action.

Other than that, surely you are just getting a test to see if you were lucky.

russian roulette springs to mind but hey each to thier own, but i think a condom will protect you better than your test.

I choose condoms and tests.

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By *raceytvcdTV/TS over a year ago

mansfield

"Forgive me if ive missed the point, but isn't testing after bareback a bit late ?

Surely the only way testing works is if all envolved are tested before sex a couple of times with a no sex gap between tests and action.

Other than that, surely you are just getting a test to see if you were lucky.

russian roulette springs to mind but hey each to thier own, but i think a condom will protect you better than your test.

I choose condoms and tests.

"
this

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By *sGivesWoodWoman over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"Just a thought...

If there were less people jumping on the bandwagon of condemnation, people would be able to freely state that they choose to bareback.

This in turn would allow a frank and open discussion without fear of attack or prejudice.

People calculate their own risks. If they don't, and will bareback anyone and everyone, at least we'll know?

Granted, the healthy exchange of ideas can be an education, however the bareback/russian roulette dance has been done to death. Can't we all move on?

If you want to bareback, crack on.

If you don't want to bareback, awesome.

If you are one of those cunts who want to stealth, wise up, that isn't your decision to make. "

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By *otgirl32Woman over a year ago

Ashton Under Lyne

I play bareback, love it and am open about it on forums and in my profile. I vet my lovers in my own way (flawed or not, my process works for me) and get tested monthly and am still standing. Blockers please block me and move on.

Like everything in the world, bareback sex has its small and finite risks but for me they're small enough to make it acceptable. For others it may not be the case. That's where the "CHOICE" part comes in.

I'm sick and tired of the "Russian roulette" analogies and the disparaging private messages people send. Grow up we are all adults here.

To the OP - what you're describing is good fun choose your blokes carefully and have fun.

By the way someone else said it above - many people who claim they only play 'safe' on their profiles play BB in house parties I go to so it's a lot more common. Honesty would let people against BB to make appropriate choices.

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By *lay-full-funCouple over a year ago

stockport

Never doesn't matter how many times we meet someone always use a comdom never know who they have been with the week before

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No way, ever! And we're not sorry that this is our reply.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Basically, it all boils down to personal choice and education. If you want to play BB then that's your personal choice, don't prejudice others who play safe and vice versa. Get yourself educated as to what you MIGHT catch if you play BB and remember, not everyone who plays BB catches something and not everybody is infected. These debates will continue to rage but in a way that's a good thing as it makes people aware and can then think about things first.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you were offered a blowjob by 100 people and one may be a cannibal, would you still have the blowjob?

It’s playing Russian roulette with your dick...the more times you do it your odds decrease!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Would be interested to know among those couples that do go bareback with others, is it the hubby or wife that generally instigates it or suggests it as something they want to do.

Got to be a joint agreement of course but just wonder if it’s the male half that wants to see it, or the female half that wants to feel it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's amazing how so many people claim to be "open minded" yet whenever the subject of BB is raised they come across as being narrow minded and judgemental to the point of almost being puritanical. And there I was thinking people were free to do as they chose...while respecting the choices of others regardless of whether they agreed with that choice or not instead of simply condemning it

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By *uited staffs guyMan over a year ago

staffordshire

"Basically, it all boils down to personal choice and education. If you want to play BB then that's your personal choice, don't prejudice others who play safe and vice versa. Get yourself educated as to what you MIGHT catch if you play BB and remember, not everyone who plays BB catches something and not everybody is infected. These debates will continue to rage but in a way that's a good thing as it makes people aware and can then think about things first."

What you might catch bareback is exactly the same infections as if might catch if you use a condom so the education is no different - just the chances are different

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Trusted friends is no real harm. Everyone are adults and get regularly tested.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Would be interested to know among those couples that do go bareback with others, is it the hubby or wife that generally instigates it or suggests it as something they want to do.

Got to be a joint agreement of course but just wonder if it’s the male half that wants to see it, or the female half that wants to feel it?"

Ooh good question. I’d love to know the answer to this one. It’s obviously very popular in cuckold relationships.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

3 words.... Never, never, never!

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By *illowzWoman over a year ago

Exeter

I only play bareback with my fwb. No one else. We're not exclusive with each other so our deal is he uses condoms with other meets and so do I.

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By *ust a Mature CoupleCouple over a year ago

Dartford

never never in gang bang nooooooooooooo

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I only play bareback with my fwb. No one else. We're not exclusive with each other so our deal is he uses condoms with other meets and so do I. "

This

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I smile at the .. We get tested every two weeks etc ..,if there is no risk .. erm why get tested? Seriously.. I do dream of bareback sex but no way will it ever be a reality in my case .. although I have to say I am getting over an allergic reaction to a condom I wore .. bloody dick is inflamed .. sore swollen ( not in the nice sense lol) on a multi mix of tablets .. but rather this than ever risk catching something via bareback

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" and most sti's are easily treated..

????

Can I suggest that you search for 'drug-resistant gonorrhoea.'

“We are markedly concerned about the rise in antibiotic resistant gonorrhoea in the UK,” said Prof Claudia Estcourt, a member of the British Association for Sexual Health and HIV.

I won't bother listing the others that are not treatable such as HIV (which although in most cases can now be controlled it cannot be cured)."
people should be more careful when it comes to sex and sexual desires involving bare back its like playing Russian roulette. Not worth the risk especially with stangers!

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By *vgloryholebs16TV/TS over a year ago

Bristol.

" and most sti's are easily treated..

????

Can I suggest that you search for 'drug-resistant gonorrhoea.'

“We are markedly concerned about the rise in antibiotic resistant gonorrhoea in the UK,” said Prof Claudia Estcourt, a member of the British Association for Sexual Health and HIV.

I won't bother listing the others that are not treatable such as HIV (which although in most cases can now be controlled it cannot be cured). people should be more careful when it comes to sex and sexual desires involving bare back its like playing Russian roulette. Not worth the risk especially with stangers! "

Should they???

Your pics are very interesting!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And again ... let us please get this in proportion with respect to the risks your health.

Today No treated STI kills on its own - not even HIV.

BUT Influenza does - 12,000 a year in the UK alone.

To protect yourself from death from Influenza you must:-

1. Sanitise all surfaces like door handles, lift buttons, money, keyboards, ATM machines, your desk, etc, etc - anything you touch.

2. You must wash your hands regularly but preferably also wear disposable gloves.

3. Don't go near sick people. This is however nearly impossible so wear an effective bio hazard mask at all times when in the company of any other human being.

4. Do not kiss anyone, especially children.

5. Do not eat food prepared by anyone else that has not been prepared in sterile conditions.

6. Get anti flu jabs annually but recognise they do not prevent all strains of flu.

7. Boost your immune system.

Take precautions and avoid killer non-STI diseases!!

And yet.... when someone gets Flu they put it on Facebook, Twitter and Snapchat. They get chlamydia they don't even tell their best friend. Its the stigma attached to STIs.

Do whatever you want for your own health; your life, your choice. However, if you smoke, recognise that the smoke free regular bareback gang-banger is probably going to outlive you. Happy New Year!!

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By *edonismproMan over a year ago

Essex

For Chlamydia it's actually a 40% chance of getting infected for one unprotected sexual encounter. The deadly STDs luckily have a a lower one-time chance.

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't."

It's fine waving the harmless-if-regularly-tested, easily treatable Chlamydia in BB'ers faces given the high transmission rate, but using HIV in the argument isn't.

The majority of people with HIV are either gay, of Sub-Saharan African origin, or have a history of intravenous drug use. As long as you're even a little careful about who you play with, you're avoiding a large number of people before the clothes even come off.

Also, statistics indicate that for every 10,000 exposures to someone with HIV in receptive vaginal sex, only 8 instances result in the virus being transmitted.

Even if a man has anal sex with another man who has HIV, the risk is a significantly higher but still paltry 138 out of 10,000 exposures.

The 80s hysteria lingers.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ultimate fantasy for us.Will stay a fantasy

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By *ldhillhotwife OP Couple over a year ago

Old Hill

"Would be interested to know among those couples that do go bareback with others, is it the hubby or wife that generally instigates it or suggests it as something they want to do.

Got to be a joint agreement of course but just wonder if it’s the male half that wants to see it, or the female half that wants to feel it?"

Bit of both?

I think from a participants point of view guys and I prefer bareback, feels more sexy and connected. I don't think there is anything more sexy than a guy cumming in you as a woman, that often can be the final thing that tips me over the edge.

From C point of view he's just a filthy bastard who likes to see and fuck me dripping!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People have bb sex personal choice people smoke again personal choice. Which 1 do you think is the most dangerous to there health. Humans have an opinion on what others should and shouldnt do but dont like being told themselfs. Hmmm make your own choices thats what we say xx

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By *uninlondon69Man over a year ago

Tower Bridge South

Do whatever you want for your own health; your life, your choice. However, if you smoke, recognise that the smoke free regular bareback gang-banger is probably going to outlive you. Happy New Year!!

And have a lot of fun on the way!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I and my partner had a discussion about this just the other day. I would never shag another man without a condom. And he won't shag other women without condoms. We'd made those decisions separately. When I was a lot younger I caught chlamydia after a guy cheated on me. I was terrified that I could have caught something a lot more dangerous.

There's things like HPV that can be transmitted whether you wear condoms or not. There's always a risk.

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By *edicinneedMan over a year ago

Glastonbury

Let me know if you’re looking for a regular bareback friend!

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple over a year ago

Halifax

Its not something we would ever do,except with each other,however if you choose to do it ,we wouldn't slate you.

You know the risks ,so as long as everyone's happy and you are honest about your play methods ,people can choose to meet /play with you or not.

Miss

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By *atalie..Woman over a year ago

Bolton

I just hit Google with the simple question std that can kill you

It's reply :Having an STD may weaken the immune system, leaving you more vulnerable to other infections. Pelvic inflammatory disease (PID) is a complication of gonorrhea and chlamydia that can leave women unable to have children. It can even kill you.

The thought of leaving my child with out a mother is enough for me not to go bareback.

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By *evaquitCouple over a year ago

Catthorpe

"I just hit Google with the simple question std that can kill you

The thought of leaving my child with out a mother is enough for me not to go bareback. "

Same here. Others to their own though, their life.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I just hit Google with the simple question std that can kill you

The thought of leaving my child with out a mother is enough for me not to go bareback. "

Was it the immaculate conception?

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By *oxesMan over a year ago

Southend, Essex

OP, have you thought about having the guys produce some form of empirical proof of STI Free in the past 2 weeks, otherwise they can't shag you?

And having a venue where you can manage who enters.

BTW, i never play unprotected.

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By *atalie..Woman over a year ago

Bolton

"I just hit Google with the simple question std that can kill you

The thought of leaving my child with out a mother is enough for me not to go bareback.

Was it the immaculate conception?"

No he was not we were both virgins at 16 next question

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By *iversong321Woman over a year ago

Preston/Merseyside

"I and my partner had a discussion about this just the other day. I would never shag another man without a condom. And he won't shag other women without condoms. We'd made those decisions separately. When I was a lot younger I caught chlamydia after a guy cheated on me. I was terrified that I could have caught something a lot more dangerous.

There's things like HPV that can be transmitted whether you wear condoms or not. There's always a risk.

Same here. I caught chlamydia the very first time I had sex as a naive 17 yr old. Scared the life out of me and have used condoms ever since (apart from when in a committed relationship). Avoid people who openly bareback and dont value their sexual health. Cos if they are reckless about their health they won't give a fuck about a stranger's on a sex site. Judgemental? Too fuckin right!

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By *amdenfunMan over a year ago

London

It's an interesting question.

I'll start by saying that we don't play bareback.

BUT I do feel we may be responding to statistics differently for different hazards with similar risk. And, I expect the difference is our ethical reaction to it - whether we admit it or not.

I cycle to work and back every day, but I know it increases the risk of a bad accident. People say, "I wouldn't take that risk." And I don't try to persuade them otherwise. But no one gasps and says, "How awful, you could die!"

I haven't studied all the science and the statistics. But, given the possibility of cure or treatment, I expect that, with precautions (like only doing it with people you trust and regularly getting tested), it makes sense.

It is about risk and benefit - and it's so much nicer!

But the way people here use science, on both sides! We've been doing it for ages and are still fine... We googled, and it came up with an STI that could kill...

Anyway, we play safe. (A wouldn't dream of it.)

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By *andare63Man over a year ago

oldham

For all you people who claim to get tested every two or three weeks . I’m sorry but you are all in cloud cuckoo land . Of course your test results can be clear that day ! But in the same evening you could go out , pick up an STI ,,, then pass on albeit innocently at any time up until your next test !!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

U got ur top off I this weather mental

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

U got ur top off I this weather mental

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"U got ur top off I this weather mental "

Huh?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

U will freeze ur tits off u never heard of hypothermia

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Safe sex every time. Why take any risks

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman over a year ago

stourbridge area

"For all you people who claim to get tested every two or three weeks . I’m sorry but you are all in cloud cuckoo land . Of course your test results can be clear that day ! But in the same evening you could go out , pick up an STI ,,, then pass on albeit innocently at any time up until your next test !!

Exactly

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By *unlovers70Couple over a year ago

Overseas

I (Mrs) have the fantasy of a bareback gangbang with all partners cumming inside of me however a fantasy it will remain. Not worth the risk to myself, husband and everyone involved!

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

"I (Mrs) have the fantasy of a bareback gangbang with all partners cumming inside of me however a fantasy it will remain. Not worth the risk to myself, husband and everyone involved! "

Same here. It makes for great pillow talk

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By *unlovers70Couple over a year ago

Overseas

"I (Mrs) have the fantasy of a bareback gangbang with all partners cumming inside of me however a fantasy it will remain. Not worth the risk to myself, husband and everyone involved!

Same here. It makes for great pillow talk

True and also good to still have fantasies as most of us have lived most out

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By *heEpicureanMan over a year ago

Warminster

As with everything in the lifestyle it’s a case of different strokes for different folks. You’ll never get a definitive answer. If bareback makes you happy do it, if safe sex makes you happy then do it. Either way just be responsible

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I kinda like the movie team america. AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"it’s playing Russian roulette with your health .

If the barrel has 800 chambers and only one bullet in it. That turn of phrase makes it sound far more risky than it actually is.

For Chlamydia it's actually a 40% chance of getting infected for one unprotected sexual encounter. The deadly STDs luckily have a a lower one-time chance.

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't."

My eyes hurt...do a favour to all of us and stop spreading this nonsense please. People get on google and read the facts please. There are non life threatenic stds today if diagnosed. Even HIV is not “deadly” as so invalidly stated.

If the 1 in 13 statistic was accurate, over 85% of the adult population on earth would be HIV+. Stop spreading nonsense

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I just hit Google with the simple question std that can kill you

The thought of leaving my child with out a mother is enough for me not to go bareback. "

THERE IS NO STD THAT CAN KILL A HEALTHY HUMAN IF DIAGNOSED AND TREATED !!!!

LEARN YOUR FACTS !!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its your choice to play safe, your choice to play bareback. There is risk in playing bareback, less risk in playing safe. A regular smoker is closer to death than a no smoker HIV+ on meds. The odds to become HIV+ through vaginal sex with an HIV+ is 0.05% max.

The odds to meet a straight HIV+ married couple on fab is....(curious to see your comments, for some it seems to be over 50%..lol)

Std’s need to exist to be transmitted.

Should i go on or theres no point...

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By *vgloryholebs16TV/TS over a year ago

Bristol.

"As with everything in the lifestyle it’s a case of different strokes for different folks. You’ll never get a definitive answer. If bareback makes you happy do it, if safe sex makes you happy then do it. Either way just be responsible

The problem? is so many people think bareback sex is not being responsible..

I think the whole debate could quite easily be taking place in the last century..

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By *ustmitchCouple over a year ago

stow on the wold

We love bareback and looking for players cum and play with us

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By *lorious hole bs16Man over a year ago

Bristol

"We love bareback and looking for players cum and play with us "

That's the spirit..fuck the opposition..

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By *amdenfunMan over a year ago

London

It's a good point someone made about these fortnightly testers - they do clog up the service!

Where can one get an appointment for an STI test in central or north London at the weekend?

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By *vgloryholebs16TV/TS over a year ago

Bristol.

Excuse my ignorance but is it the nhs that funds these fortnightly visits??

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By *unandbuckCouple over a year ago

Sheffield

"it’s playing Russian roulette with your health .

If the barrel has 800 chambers and only one bullet in it. That turn of phrase makes it sound far more risky than it actually is.

For Chlamydia it's actually a 40% chance of getting infected for one unprotected sexual encounter. The deadly STDs luckily have a a lower one-time chance.

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't.

If the 1 in 13 statistic was accurate, over 85% of the adult population on earth would be HIV+. Stop spreading nonsense"

85% of the population aren't engaging in promiscous unprotected sex. That did happen and there was an epidemic, which caused people to change habits. Maybe you heard of it? But since it's history now, you can push the idea of going back to how it was before.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"it’s playing Russian roulette with your health .

If the barrel has 800 chambers and only one bullet in it. That turn of phrase makes it sound far more risky than it actually is.

For Chlamydia it's actually a 40% chance of getting infected for one unprotected sexual encounter. The deadly STDs luckily have a a lower one-time chance.

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't.

If the 1 in 13 statistic was accurate, over 85% of the adult population on earth would be HIV+. Stop spreading nonsense

On the planet where i live, the vast majority of straight sexual encounters are unprotected. On the same planet, there was never an std epidemic. Are you by any chance a Durex employee?

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By *unandbuckCouple over a year ago

Sheffield

If the 1 in 13 statistic was accurate, over 85% of the adult population on earth would be HIV+. Stop spreading nonsense

On the planet where i live, the vast majority of straight sexual encounters are unprotected. On the same planet, there was never an std epidemic. Are you by any chance a Durex employee?"

The planet you live on had an hiv disaster in the uk and usa. The planet you live on has a bigger hiv disaster in Africa.

No, I prefer Skyns, as they make barely any difference in a swap, and are a miniscule distraction worth taking to ensure we all stay healthy.

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By *rs Butterfly.Woman over a year ago

Wolverhampton

For us BB is an absolute No!. Its not worth the risk. No condom no sex.

I also won't play with people who I know don't practise safe sex.

Life is all about choices and if you are happy doing BB then that's fine by me. I won't judge you but I won't ever play with you.

Do what makes you happy and forget what others do and their opinions.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For us BB is an absolute No!. Its not worth the risk. No condom no sex.

I also won't play with people who I know don't practise safe sex.

Life is all about choices and if you are happy doing BB then that's fine by me. I won't judge you but I won't ever play with you.

Do what makes you happy and forget what others do and their opinions."

The last phrase is for you as you seem to be annoyed with someone’s choise for natural sex.

Nobody really cares about your preference and why should we?

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By *heHotwifePairCouple over a year ago

South

This subject always causes wars lol

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By *adysueandneroCouple over a year ago

witney

"Excuse my ignorance but is it the nhs that funds these fortnightly visits??

No it's tax payers. And as such we are all entitled to this service.

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By *orn KinkyTV/TS over a year ago

cardiff

"it’s playing Russian roulette with your health .

If the barrel has 800 chambers and only one bullet in it. That turn of phrase makes it sound far more risky than it actually is.

For Chlamydia it's actually a 40% chance of getting infected for one unprotected sexual encounter. The deadly STDs luckily have a a lower one-time chance.

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't."

Sorry to be pedantic, but that’s incorrect. Each time with a new partner is a separate event, so the chance is 1 in 800 each time. Your way you assume that as time goes on the people you sleep with are more likely to have some form of std which isn’t true. Likewise if you carry on on your timeline, after 20 years or so of swinging you’d DEFINITELY get an infection, also not true.

For the thread’s sake though, although bareback always feels better, it’s a regular partner only thing for me, once both tested of course.

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By *unandbuckCouple over a year ago

Sheffield

"it’s playing Russian roulette with your health .

If the barrel has 800 chambers and only one bullet in it. That turn of phrase makes it sound far more risky than it actually is.

For Chlamydia it's actually a 40% chance of getting infected for one unprotected sexual encounter. The deadly STDs luckily have a a lower one-time chance.

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't.

For the thread’s sake though, although bareback always feels better, it’s a regular partner only thing for me, once both tested of course. "

No. Tossing a coin is 50:50. Each time you toss it it is still 50:50. But as you know if it came up heads 10 times, on the 11th flip it's still 50:50. But that doesn't mean the chances of 11 heads is 50:50.

I agree, my simplistic extension is worst case. All I'm saying is, just saying oh, it's 1:800 I'll not bother, is foolhardy.

We also have to consider another angle. Most swingers play safe, and STIs are controlled. If everyone played bareback, then the prevalence will increase and so your chances get worse and worse.

I just think of it like wearing a seatbelt. My chances of being in a head-on are slim, and it has never happened to me. I would prefer the comfort of driving without a seatbelt, but I choose to wear one, as I know the consequences when fate plays out the wrong way.

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By *ction man1Man over a year ago

leicester

for me bareback means an emotional commitment....random bareback doesn't appeal but people have choice as long as they are open and put it on their profile it allows others to make a choice accordingly....we all have kinks and I do not judge...(I do in private lol)

to paraphrase jimmy saville 'cover it every trip'

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By *amdenfunMan over a year ago

London

"Excuse my ignorance but is it the nhs that funds these fortnightly visits??

No it's tax payers. And as such we are all entitled to this service."

Maybe we should hold a referendum on how many free STI tests the NHS should provide per person per year

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By *lorious hole bs16Man over a year ago

Bristol

"Excuse my ignorance but is it the nhs that funds these fortnightly visits??

No it's tax payers. And as such we are all entitled to this service."

I was thinking about priorities rather than peace of mind for the 'worried well'!

For example I know someone who gets tested monthly, and has done so for a number of years and never caught a thing.

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By *ollyGWoman over a year ago

Southampton

"I've done plenty of bareback gangbangs and I think I once caught a cold. I'm not saying there is no risk involved but for me the risk is low enough for me to enjoy it."

I love bareback!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I would never bareback with anyone unless i was in a relationship. If people want to bareback leave them to it its their life.

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By *eliciousladyWoman over a year ago

Sometimes U.K

In the mid 80’s when bare back was pretty much the norm, a guy at work caught VD and had to inform the clinic of the names and addresses of who he had been with, the clinic sent them letters asking them to come for a test.

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By *icentiousCouple over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Odd, because of the type of play, I, the male like bareback.

However, who is in the dynamic has to be tested, there has to be openness, honesty and trust about the people in the dynamic and their ‘other’ sexual relationships, so everyone has a choice

If they still want to play that way.

Choice is always a good thing.

In a club, protection all the way .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There's the other side to this too. Pregnancy.

No birth control is 100% effective so I would be more comfortable using a condom as a back up.

Imagine a scenario where the pill or other forms of contraception failed and the woman got pregnant. Coupled with the risks of STIs during pregnancy causing health risks to the baby. It's a big deal.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There's the other side to this too. Pregnancy.

No birth control is 100% effective so I would be more comfortable using a condom as a back up.

Imagine a scenario where the pill or other forms of contraception failed and the woman got pregnant. Coupled with the risks of STIs during pregnancy causing health risks to the baby. It's a big deal. "

No condom is 100% effective. Has it come to quit sex to be safe?

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By *lwaysup4it69Couple over a year ago

Kirkby in Ashfield

We don't play very often, but when we do, bareback is our preference every time

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By *atalie..Woman over a year ago

Bolton

"I just hit Google with the simple question std that can kill you

The thought of leaving my child with out a mother is enough for me not to go bareback.

THERE IS NO STD THAT CAN KILL A HEALTHY HUMAN IF DIAGNOSED AND TREATED !!!!

LEARN YOUR FACTS !!!"

Ohh shouting at me does not get your point across better it just makes me laugh.

I do find it funny that the one's who partake in bareback sex (like you) get angry at thread discussions on bareback, you keep on doing what you do and I will keep on doing what I do, problem solved. Ps if an std goes untreated it can kill you if you were healthy or not, std don't discriminate between a healthy person or an unhealthy such has HPV which can cause cancer in every orifice.

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By *inky Little SecretsCouple over a year ago

belfast

Am i wrong.

I didnt think sti clinics could pick up herpes unless u had an

Occurrance at that particular time.

Play safe!

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

There is a porn studio in the next town to us and gangbang, extreme bukkake, creampie Etc. is what they do.

Before anyone asks No we haven't done one. However we know a guy who is a regular there.

He tells us (and we've seen the vids) that everyone is tested on site and has to wear a coloured wristband to show that they tested clean.

No wristband = no fuck.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I just hit Google with the simple question std that can kill you

The thought of leaving my child with out a mother is enough for me not to go bareback.

THERE IS NO STD THAT CAN KILL A HEALTHY HUMAN IF DIAGNOSED AND TREATED !!!!

LEARN YOUR FACTS !!!

Ohh shouting at me does not get your point across better it just makes me laugh.

A flu if it goes untreated can kill you. Im shouting cos I cant believe in 2018 the amount of sexually poor educated people. You’d expect in this lifestyle people to know what is what. Where in any of my posts did i say leaving an std untreated is safe. I’m shouting at the top of my voice that there are non life theeatening stds today, not even HIV if treated at an early stage. Read before you laugh and make comments.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"it’s playing Russian roulette with your health .

If the barrel has 800 chambers and only one bullet in it. That turn of phrase makes it sound far more risky than it actually is.

For Chlamydia it's actually a 40% chance of getting infected for one unprotected sexual encounter. The deadly STDs luckily have a a lower one-time chance.

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't."

You don't know how odds work do you?

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

"There is a porn studio in the next town to us and gangbang, extreme bukkake, creampie Etc. is what they do.

Before anyone asks No we haven't done one. However we know a guy who is a regular there.

He tells us (and we've seen the vids) that everyone is tested on site and has to wear a coloured wristband to show that they tested clean.

No wristband = no fuck."

Bloody hell - how flawed is that

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

"I just hit Google with the simple question std that can kill you

The thought of leaving my child with out a mother is enough for me not to go bareback.

THERE IS NO STD THAT CAN KILL A HEALTHY HUMAN IF DIAGNOSED AND TREATED !!!!

LEARN YOUR FACTS !!!

Ohh shouting at me does not get your point across better it just makes me laugh.

Actually I don’t abuse anyone that chooses to play bareback. But I do object to people mocking and trivialising other people’s point of view like I’ve seen in your posts. Live and let live in my opinion. If you persuaded a lot more people to play as you do , your risk of infection goes up considerably.

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By *unandbuckCouple over a year ago

Sheffield

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't.

You don't know how odds work do you? "

Yes.

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By *unandbuckCouple over a year ago

Sheffield

Cool, can't wait for the NHS to do the press release that we can all bareback to our hearts content. Such a relief.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't.

You don't know how odds work do you?

Yes."

So what's with the talking bollocks then?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I just hit Google with the simple question std that can kill you

The thought of leaving my child with out a mother is enough for me not to go bareback.

THERE IS NO STD THAT CAN KILL A HEALTHY HUMAN IF DIAGNOSED AND TREATED !!!!

LEARN YOUR FACTS !!!

Ohh shouting at me does not get your point across better it just makes me laugh.

yes...but I'd much rather not have any of them, no matter how non life threatening you consider them to be. Some of them are absolutely life changing. Condoms, while not perfect are still the best protection we have against many of them, especially HIV, along with other hygiene practices...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I just hit Google with the simple question std that can kill you

The thought of leaving my child with out a mother is enough for me not to go bareback.

THERE IS NO STD THAT CAN KILL A HEALTHY HUMAN IF DIAGNOSED AND TREATED !!!!

LEARN YOUR FACTS !!!

Ohh shouting at me does not get your point across better it just makes me laugh.

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By *unandbuckCouple over a year ago

Sheffield

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't.

You don't know how odds work do you?

Yes.

So what's with the talking bollocks then?"

Why not explain your point of view rather than one liner rubbish?

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By *orkiejoancd 75TV/TS over a year ago

Brighouse

As a bi cross dresser i have done bare back but only with my closest friends who i know are clear and they know i am as well as get regular check ups,Would not do it with a stranger

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes it so much nicer feel guy shoot inside mmmmm xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In an ideal world I think most would prefer bareback as it goes with the flow of playing. Unfortunately the risk of sti's is far too high, try explaining that to your wife or husband if you are playing away.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't.

You don't know how odds work do you?

Yes.

So what's with the talking bollocks then?

Why not explain your point of view rather than one liner rubbish?"

Already done nicely by someone explaining the coin toss further up the thread.

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By *edonismproMan over a year ago

Essex

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't.

You don't know how odds work do you?

Yes.

So what's with the talking bollocks then?

Why not explain your point of view rather than one liner rubbish?"

I debunked your "1 in 13" statistic above, three days ago. Your calculation is inaccurate and serves to reinforce the STI hysteria. I appreciate the need for awareness of STIs but scaring people with inaccurate statistics is wrong.

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By *unandbuckCouple over a year ago

Sheffield

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't.

You don't know how odds work do you?

Yes.

So what's with the talking bollocks then?

Why not explain your point of view rather than one liner rubbish?

Already done nicely by someone explaining the coin toss further up the thread. "

I can't see anything. Just copy and paste it if you want. But I can tell you, if you do something that has a 1:800 probability, 400 times your odds are 50:50 over the whole period. Also, consider those odds on 800 people playing bareback every week.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Let’s all enjoy what we like, our choice clearly doesnt affect anuone’s life but our own. Bareback haters as long as you’re always covered you got nothing to worry about. Bareback lovers, you’re destined to die, at least you’ll die with a huge smile on your face..

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

"Let’s all enjoy what we like, our choice clearly doesnt affect anuone’s life but our own. Bareback haters as long as you’re always covered you got nothing to worry about. Bareback lovers, you’re destined to die, at least you’ll die with a huge smile on your face..

Jeez

I don’t bareback - but I’m no hater.

Who has said in this or any other like thread that as a bare backer you’re going to die.

Seems to me its you that have concerns

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By *lorious hole bs16Man over a year ago

Bristol

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Refreshing.

I like the simplicity of your post..

I often feel totally disheartened when I hear some of the 'hysteria' surrounding sti's. I expected more people to be enlightened on this site..

Having lived thru the early 1980's AIDS epidemic and lost some of my friends and lovers, I hoped the over reaction would have settled a bit and in many ways it has.

Anxiety/sexual guilt and fear can be treated and overcome.

Enjoy your sexual activities without such emotions as they too play a part in damaging the immune system and making you more susceptible to infections/illness.

Do what feels right for you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Jeez

I don’t bareback - but I’m no hater.

Who has said in this or any other like thread that as a bare backer you’re going to die.

Seems to me its you that have concerns

Personally I have no concerns, it was a humorous approach, we’re all in a slow process of dying anyway, now if we have bareback sex with a nice couple or two, that is more likely to make this process more enjoyable. That’s the way we see it. God has been kind to us so far, we have some goid friends we enjoy natural sex with and never caught anything. If one day we need to but the Canesten cream and pill to treat some unwanted bacteria (even that is unlikely) tgen we can live with it...

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

Jeez

I don’t bareback - but I’m no hater.

Who has said in this or any other like thread that as a bare backer you’re going to die.

Seems to me its you that have concerns

So enjoy and glad you have adapted your profile to be more honest. Be nice if you removed the ridicule statement thereafter for safe sex players. Makes you sound bothered about your choice.

Good luck

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By *inkerbell67Woman over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

Dont care if they begged me to do bare back its still a big NO ...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Jeez

I don’t bareback - but I’m no hater.

Who has said in this or any other like thread that as a bare backer you’re going to die.

Seems to me its you that have concerns

So enjoy and glad you have adapted your profile to be more honest. Be nice if you removed the ridicule statement thereafter for safe sex players. Makes you sound bothered about your choice.

Good luck

We do have safe sex meets as well. We thought it’s best to remove all our interests and talk privately with couples...

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By *alcon43Woman over a year ago

Paisley

I’d rather not risk having an STI. Condoms are much better than they were 30 years ago so there should really be no excuses for not wearing them.

I know two people who are HIV and take a cocktail of drugs evert day to stay healthy. They don’t have perfect health and it’s a lifetime of being careful.

It’s not like getting a bad pint in the pub. It affects the way they live their lives.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Only di bareback with ur own partner never with ppl you meet off here to risky "

Male half here. In a life where I have had a gazillion sexual experiences with lots and I mean lots of partners, I've been treated for two minor things. Genital warts in my early twenties and a minor case of thrush caught from a previous regular partner.

You've as much chance catching the clap off this site than on.

I'm pro condoms don't get me wrong but there's a fair amount of B.S and hypocrisy .....loads more people bareback than admit it.

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By *hoenixandflamesCouple over a year ago

Stockport

Flip side to all this, and someone who gives Bi people bad names, is a person on Fabguys who takes anonymous fucks bare and is married without his partners consent or knowledge.

That shit just isn't on.

Apparently (according to his twitter) is now HIV+ but "undetectable"...

I wonder what his wife thinks?

I think he should go to prison, personally...

Flames

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’d rather not risk having an STI. Condoms are much better than they were 30 years ago so there should really be no excuses for not wearing them.

I know two people who are HIV and take a cocktail of drugs evert day to stay healthy. They don’t have perfect health and it’s a lifetime of being careful.

It’s not like getting a bad pint in the pub. It affects the way they live their lives. "

Its horrible to live with HIV.

For us it’s the bond of natural sex that enhances the experience. It’s making love to others like we do to each other. That’s why we only do it with married couples where we can all feel this connection that elevates the sharing experience.

Condoms are much better but then why dont we use them with our partners?

That’s exactly what we’re looking for and no, it’s not for anyone who asks for it recklessly

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't.

You don't know how odds work do you?

Yes.

So what's with the talking bollocks then?

Why not explain your point of view rather than one liner rubbish?

Already done nicely by someone explaining the coin toss further up the thread.

You are a bookies dream.

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By *unandbuckCouple over a year ago

Sheffield

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't.

You don't know how odds work do you?

Yes.

So what's with the talking bollocks then?

Why not explain your point of view rather than one liner rubbish?

Already done nicely by someone explaining the coin toss further up the thread.

You are a bookies dream."

Explain then - you only write one sentence replies. You can use your better knowledge to explain why it's wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't.

You don't know how odds work do you?

Yes.

So what's with the talking bollocks then?

Why not explain your point of view rather than one liner rubbish?

Already done nicely by someone explaining the coin toss further up the thread.

You are a bookies dream.

Explain then - you only write one sentence replies. You can use your better knowledge to explain why it's wrong."

Like it or not there are many straight couples in swinging enjoying natural sex. Also like it or not non of them has ever caught anuthing that cannit be treated with Canesten in 5 days. Keep your ridiculous statistics and remember. Two condoms are always safer than one cos what if one breaks? Have you calculated the odds for that?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I just hit Google with the simple question std that can kill you

The thought of leaving my child with out a mother is enough for me not to go bareback.

THERE IS NO STD THAT CAN KILL A HEALTHY HUMAN IF DIAGNOSED AND TREATED !!!!

LEARN YOUR FACTS !!!"

I could cry at the ignorance. Having been born in South Africa only moving here 3 years ago I have had 6 classmates and 1 friend die of HIV and related causes all under 40. It's not something to mess we believe me and really try to learn the facts please

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I just hit Google with the simple question std that can kill you

The thought of leaving my child with out a mother is enough for me not to go bareback.

THERE IS NO STD THAT CAN KILL A HEALTHY HUMAN IF DIAGNOSED AND TREATED !!!!

LEARN YOUR FACTS !!!

I think you missed the “if diagnosed abd treated” bit. Only if left untreated HIV will become AIDS and kill. It is a lifetime of pills but will defo live longer and better than a heavy smoker for example

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

To say no std can kill is a really an innacurate thing to say.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"To say no std can kill is a really an innacurate thing to say.....

It us scientifically proven that all stds known today if diagnosed and treated are not at no degree life threatening. This is what the medical science states today no matter what you, me or anyone else wants to believe.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do you think 1 in 13 of us coming down with HIV is an OK statistic?

I don't.

You don't know how odds work do you?

Yes.

So what's with the talking bollocks then?

Why not explain your point of view rather than one liner rubbish?

Already done nicely by someone explaining the coin toss further up the thread.

You are a bookies dream.

Explain then - you only write one sentence replies. You can use your better knowledge to explain why it's wrong.

Canestan only treats thrush, not STI's

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By *oxesMan over a year ago

Southend, Essex

"I just hit Google with the simple question std that can kill you

The thought of leaving my child with out a mother is enough for me not to go bareback.

THERE IS NO STD THAT CAN KILL A HEALTHY HUMAN IF DIAGNOSED AND TREATED !!!!

LEARN YOUR FACTS !!!

HIV is still a death sentence. Just because there are pills PRep, doesn't mean it stops you carrying it or from contacting other sti's.

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By *ihimbiherCouple over a year ago

lightwater

Before we meet anyone, we read their profile and verifications and then read the verifications verifications to see who has gone bear back.

Not that that is a safe way to see who is safe but it does minimalise and danger

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I just hit Google with the simple question std that can kill you

The thought of leaving my child with out a mother is enough for me not to go bareback.

THERE IS NO STD THAT CAN KILL A HEALTHY HUMAN IF DIAGNOSED AND TREATED !!!!

LEARN YOUR FACTS !!!

HIV is still a death sentence. Just because there are pills PRep, doesn't mean it stops you carrying it or from contacting other sti's. "

HIV is not a death sentence, you dont know what you’re talkng about and yet you open your mouth and talk rubbish...i really dont get it...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Before we meet anyone, we read their profile and verifications and then read the verifications verifications to see who has gone bear back.

Not that that is a safe way to see who is safe but it does minimalise and danger"

You should always put on DOUBLE condoms. What if one breaks...?

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By *ranki777TV/TS over a year ago

near Heathrow

"Forgive me if ive missed the point, but isn't testing after bareback a bit late ?

Surely the only way testing works is if all envolved are tested before sex a couple of times with a no sex gap between tests and action.

Other than that, surely you are just getting a test to see if you were lucky.

russian roulette springs to mind but hey each to thier own, but i think a condom will protect you better than your test.

I choose condoms and tests.

You need to be started on PREP meds after unprotected sex - if you worry about catching HIV (tho why would you do BB if you do worry?). You have 72 hours to start on anti virals before it’s too late and will need to be tested 1 month after BB sex. So 4 weeks of worrying if you got it or not - it’s not pleasant, for I had an experience where my man split his condom and didn’t tell me as soon as it happened but told me 1 week later! It was a scary moment for me! Anxious, worried and scared were my companions in those 4 uncomfortable weeks! So I don’t recommend that! Tho thank god I was negative - so never again!!!

There’s still risk out there and STI’s are on a rise.. count yourself Lucky if you had BB sex and not caught anything but it only takes 1 person to give it to you and your Lucky will run out.

Anal sex is riskier but vaginal sex is still risky - women can still give you HIV ... so don’t think you’re safe if you only meet women ... if there’s a risk even 1% chance .. why take it?

I’ve seen people who caught these types of infections and those unlucky ones that I’ve seen, it’s not pretty - some had horrible signs and symptoms that it scared the life out of me (I work in the medical field) .. my advice is always practice safe sex if you value your peace of mind, your family and friends, your work and you health.

Only my 2 cents please. I’m not dishing anyone at all. Stay safe everyone x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Imagine 10 mf couples, 10 bi men and 10 bi women (40 total) ALL HEALTHY, share bareback sex between them and noone else, for a period of 6 months everyday. How many you reckon will have an sti after the 6 months ?

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By *ranki777TV/TS over a year ago

near Heathrow

STD/STI’s are out there and people do have them, some got treated and some don’t even know they have them. Some STD’s don’t show any symptoms and lay “dormant” for some time, but once your body’s immune goes down, it grabs hold and shows symptoms. Some STI if left untreated are really ugly and horrible to look at. Some leave long lasting effect to the carrier. So people are lucky not to catch them but as they say .. it’s a Russian Roulette if you do practice unsafe sex with multiple partners. Because you don’t know everyone’s sexual practices.

Hiv is not a death sentence but it does have complications and still an infection that needs lifetime meds and treatment. Once untreated it develops AIDS.. which we know killed a huge number of people in the past.

If you do practice BB sex - just regular testing and knowing your partners will lessen your chances of getting STI’s - but still the risk is out there x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"To say no std can kill is a really an innacurate thing to say.....

Unfortunately the facts are different. Aids is still on the increase world wide though treatment is more effective but over 1 million people died of aids related disease last year. You cannot possibly spout your non sense and be blind to the FACTS.

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By *ickawitchCouple over a year ago

Away with the fairies (Liverpool to you)

I just don't get what the whole big deal is . We don't do bb, but we don't judge those who do . Surely it's a matter of personal choice. There are enough judgemental people in the world trying to force their opinions on others without it happening on here aswell . If we don't agree with what occurring then we don't take part . Simple solution to a non exsistent problem .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's not judgement I think it's people stating false facts? We cannot pretend that there are no potential risks....

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By *ickawitchCouple over a year ago

Away with the fairies (Liverpool to you)

I except that .false facts can be misleading . But there is risk in everything we do . The only real safe sex is not to have any.

Let's face it , according to 'society' we're perverts , they state that as fact . But we all know it's crap . Perversion , for want of a better word is a sliding scale . So are the risks . Again , it's all down to personal choice . The risks your willing to take to enjoy life .

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