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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Ok, I dont normally like this type of self-indulgence, but after my last three meets have:
1) not shown up after I'd driven 135 miles and made excuses about having to go out (luckily I was driving to the general area anyway)
2) depsite loads of messages for months, decided thay they couldnt meet that day as they had a prior meet arranged (3rd excuse not to meet).
3) Turned up but changed their minds (face pics had been exchanged prior and we'd spoken on the phone)
I'm beginning to get a bit paranoid and disheartened. Any advice on where I might be going wrong? Im always upfront about being married before anyone says. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Maybe you are being over keen ? It's made us cancel a meet before when the person was just completely over the top"
Hmm, I dont think so to be honest - I'm generally pretty laid back , but I'll take a look at myself when or if someone else takes an imterest! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Where number 3 is concerned, anyone has the right to not take things further. "
Yeah I totally get that and it was all amicable, just a bit dissapointing after the other recent let-downs. |
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over a year ago
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"Ok, I dont normally like this type of self-indulgence, but after my last three meets have:
1) not shown up after I'd driven 135 miles and made excuses about having to go out (luckily I was driving to the general area anyway)
2) depsite loads of messages for months, decided thay they couldnt meet that day as they had a prior meet arranged (3rd excuse not to meet).
3) Turned up but changed their minds (face pics had been exchanged prior and we'd spoken on the phone)
I'm beginning to get a bit paranoid and disheartened. Any advice on where I might be going wrong? Im always upfront about being married before anyone says."
It's not them,it's you |
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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago
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1. Personally I think that's too far to travel to meet someone, although you said you were there anyway so that's a bit different.
2. 2 chances. 3 is a bit, dare I say it, desperate. I mean you must of had your doubts after being cancelled on twice with them?
3. At least they showed up.
It's difficult on here at times we all know that. A bit of a Christmas break perhaps? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Ok, I dont normally like this type of self-indulgence, but after my last three meets have:
1) not shown up after I'd driven 135 miles and made excuses about having to go out (luckily I was driving to the general area anyway)
2) depsite loads of messages for months, decided thay they couldnt meet that day as they had a prior meet arranged (3rd excuse not to meet).
3) Turned up but changed their minds (face pics had been exchanged prior and we'd spoken on the phone)
I'm beginning to get a bit paranoid and disheartened. Any advice on where I might be going wrong? Im always upfront about being married before anyone says.
It's not them,it's you "
Clearly it is me, hence asking where I'm going wrong. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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1. Personally I think that's too far to travel to meet someone, although you said you were there anyway so that's a bit different.
2. 2 chances. 3 is a bit, dare I say it, desperate. I mean you must of had your doubts after being cancelled on twice with them?
3. At least they showed up.
It's difficult on here at times we all know that. A bit of a Christmas break perhaps? "
Youre probably right on all counts V. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female "
1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman. |
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female
1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman."
Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female
1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman.
Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going! "
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female
1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman.
Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going!
True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site."
On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here.
This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female
1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman.
Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going!
True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site.
On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here.
This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted. "
Personally, as someone who doesn't meet married men, I would want to know. Most women on here will suss you out anyway and if they find you are lying about being single, what else might you be lying about? |
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female
1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman.
Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going!
True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site.
On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here.
This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted.
Personally, as someone who doesn't meet married men, I would want to know. Most women on here will suss you out anyway and if they find you are lying about being single, what else might you be lying about?"
You're married, but you don't meet married men? How does that work?
Everyone lies on here in one way or another. Our experience is that most of the alleged single guys on here are attached in some way. The reality however is that lots of women will not meet openly attached men. Hence by being openly attached you are significantly reducing your chances.
On the morality point, as you are deceiving someone who is presumably very important to you, I can't see any problem with you deceiving strangers on a swingers site. You are putting your marriage at risk for the sake of some casual sex, yet handicapping yourself in obtaining the said sex.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female
1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman.
Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going!
True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site.
On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here.
This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted.
Personally, as someone who doesn't meet married men, I would want to know. Most women on here will suss you out anyway and if they find you are lying about being single, what else might you be lying about?
You're married, but you don't meet married men? How does that work?
Everyone lies on here in one way or another. Our experience is that most of the alleged single guys on here are attached in some way. The reality however is that lots of women will not meet openly attached men. Hence by being openly attached you are significantly reducing your chances.
On the morality point, as you are deceiving someone who is presumably very important to you, I can't see any problem with you deceiving strangers on a swingers site. You are putting your marriage at risk for the sake of some casual sex, yet handicapping yourself in obtaining the said sex.
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I'm not married hun. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female
1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman.
Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going!
True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site.
On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here.
This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted.
Personally, as someone who doesn't meet married men, I would want to know. Most women on here will suss you out anyway and if they find you are lying about being single, what else might you be lying about?
You're married, but you don't meet married men? How does that work?
Everyone lies on here in one way or another. Our experience is that most of the alleged single guys on here are attached in some way. The reality however is that lots of women will not meet openly attached men. Hence by being openly attached you are significantly reducing your chances.
On the morality point, as you are deceiving someone who is presumably very important to you, I can't see any problem with you deceiving strangers on a swingers site. You are putting your marriage at risk for the sake of some casual sex, yet handicapping yourself in obtaining the said sex.
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Interesting point. And yeah, no doubt a significant number of "single" men actualy aren't... |
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female
1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman.
Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going!
True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site.
On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here.
This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted.
Personally, as someone who doesn't meet married men, I would want to know. Most women on here will suss you out anyway and if they find you are lying about being single, what else might you be lying about?
You're married, but you don't meet married men? How does that work?
Everyone lies on here in one way or another. Our experience is that most of the alleged single guys on here are attached in some way. The reality however is that lots of women will not meet openly attached men. Hence by being openly attached you are significantly reducing your chances.
On the morality point, as you are deceiving someone who is presumably very important to you, I can't see any problem with you deceiving strangers on a swingers site. You are putting your marriage at risk for the sake of some casual sex, yet handicapping yourself in obtaining the said sex.
Sorry. Thought you were the op!
My point is that, from his point of view, he would be best off lying to get meets. He lies to his wife, why should he care about lying to me and you?
I'm not married hun. "
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"Ok, I dont normally like this type of self-indulgence, but after my last three meets have:
1) not shown up after I'd driven 135 miles and made excuses about having to go out (luckily I was driving to the general area anyway)
2) depsite loads of messages for months, decided thay they couldnt meet that day as they had a prior meet arranged (3rd excuse not to meet).
3) Turned up but changed their minds (face pics had been exchanged prior and we'd spoken on the phone)
I'm beginning to get a bit paranoid and disheartened. Any advice on where I might be going wrong? Im always upfront about being married before anyone says."
Arrange a meet at a club night
Therefore should they let you down at least you stand a chance of still playing and failing that still a fun night out
You can meet like minded people from your area and get yourself out there a little
All about networking x |
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Cancel once and it's not likely we'll meet up. If the person does seem genuine and hasn't given me a crap excuse, I'll maybe give them a second chance. But no more than that.
9 out of 10 dates I recon for me end up in cancellations or no shows, so no way I would ever drive that distance for a first meet. Too many unreliable time wasters x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Ok, I dont normally like this type of self-indulgence, but after my last three meets have:
1) not shown up after I'd driven 135 miles and made excuses about having to go out (luckily I was driving to the general area anyway)
2) depsite loads of messages for months, decided thay they couldnt meet that day as they had a prior meet arranged (3rd excuse not to meet).
3) Turned up but changed their minds (face pics had been exchanged prior and we'd spoken on the phone)
I'm beginning to get a bit paranoid and disheartened. Any advice on where I might be going wrong? Im always upfront about being married before anyone says.
Arrange a meet at a club night
Therefore should they let you down at least you stand a chance of still playing and failing that still a fun night out
You can meet like minded people from your area and get yourself out there a little
All about networking x "
Yeah - never been to a club yet, not properly anyway. Went to club 29 in Leiceater a few weeks back but it was empty. |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female
1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman.
Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going!
True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site.
On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here.
This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted.
Personally, as someone who doesn't meet married men, I would want to know. Most women on here will suss you out anyway and if they find you are lying about being single, what else might you be lying about?" exactly this |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female
1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman.
Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going!
True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site.
On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here.
This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted.
Personally, as someone who doesn't meet married men, I would want to know. Most women on here will suss you out anyway and if they find you are lying about being single, what else might you be lying about?
You're married, but you don't meet married men? How does that work?
Everyone lies on here in one way or another. Our experience is that most of the alleged single guys on here are attached in some way. The reality however is that lots of women will not meet openly attached men. Hence by being openly attached you are significantly reducing your chances.
On the morality point, as you are deceiving someone who is presumably very important to you, I can't see any problem with you deceiving strangers on a swingers site. You are putting your marriage at risk for the sake of some casual sex, yet handicapping yourself in obtaining the said sex.
" There is every problem with deceiving people on here. It's called taking away our choice to make an informed decision to meet or not. |
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female
1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman.
Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going!
True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site.
On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here.
This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted.
Personally, as someone who doesn't meet married men, I would want to know. Most women on here will suss you out anyway and if they find you are lying about being single, what else might you be lying about?
You're married, but you don't meet married men? How does that work?
Everyone lies on here in one way or another. Our experience is that most of the alleged single guys on here are attached in some way. The reality however is that lots of women will not meet openly attached men. Hence by being openly attached you are significantly reducing your chances.
On the morality point, as you are deceiving someone who is presumably very important to you, I can't see any problem with you deceiving strangers on a swingers site. You are putting your marriage at risk for the sake of some casual sex, yet handicapping yourself in obtaining the said sex.
There is every problem with deceiving people on here. It's called taking away our choice to make an informed decision to meet or not. "
Yes I know. My point is that he is deceiving someone who is presumably very important to him, given that, it seems a bit strange to have moral qualms about deceiving randoms on fabs.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I kept getting cancelled by a girl who kept contacting me convincing me that she was genuinely interested but had a busy life which I understood at first but then the excuses became tedious. I did a quick search on her and it turned out she was cancelling our meets because she's a fulltime prostitute that according to her clients veri's were on the same dates our meets were planned. Needless to say we don't speak anymore but when I did ask her why she did it this was her response - "f*** you you insecure little b**** no wonder no one wants to meet you" . If I can just add to that I've had 6 veri's in the 6 weeks I've been here which if I'm honest isn't too bad |
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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago
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"I kept getting cancelled by a girl who kept contacting me convincing me that she was genuinely interested but had a busy life which I understood at first but then the excuses became tedious. I did a quick search on her and it turned out she was cancelling our meets because she's a fulltime prostitute that according to her clients veri's were on the same dates our meets were planned. Needless to say we don't speak anymore but when I did ask her why she did it this was her response - "f*** you you insecure little b**** no wonder no one wants to meet you" . If I can just add to that I've had 6 veri's in the 6 weeks I've been here which if I'm honest isn't too bad" I hope you reported her
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok, I dont normally like this type of self-indulgence, but after my last three meets have:
1) not shown up after I'd driven 135 miles and made excuses about having to go out (luckily I was driving to the general area anyway)
2) depsite loads of messages for months, decided thay they couldnt meet that day as they had a prior meet arranged (3rd excuse not to meet).
3) Turned up but changed their minds (face pics had been exchanged prior and we'd spoken on the phone)
I'm beginning to get a bit paranoid and disheartened. Any advice on where I might be going wrong? Im always upfront about being married before anyone says."
Everyone is in the same boat, happens to us all. |
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Ah number 1 a bloke,maybe got caught out?
Number 2 i would say doesnt want to meet or wouldnt make excuses.Never give anyone that many chances op.
Number 3 ,you just werent for them,but they were honest at least .
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I kept getting cancelled by a girl who kept contacting me convincing me that she was genuinely interested but had a busy life which I understood at first but then the excuses became tedious. I did a quick search on her and it turned out she was cancelling our meets because she's a fulltime prostitute that according to her clients veri's were on the same dates our meets were planned. Needless to say we don't speak anymore but when I did ask her why she did it this was her response - "f*** you you insecure little b**** no wonder no one wants to meet you" . If I can just add to that I've had 6 veri's in the 6 weeks I've been here which if I'm honest isn't too badI hope you reported her" I did but not sure if fab can take any action as she is doing it via another site, as for the pm language/abuse she is still here so ..
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Thanks everyone. Some good and interesting feedback - this site clearly isn't working for me though so I reckon I'm just going to delete my account when my site supporter runs out. Hope you all have better luck and once again, thanks for the comments. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sadly this seems to be becoming the nature of things often on FAB. Not sure how being 'too keen' can justify anyone not showing up or their stringing anyone alone. Yes, people may change their minds and no one can do anything about that.
This week I've had two no shows, Monday the old chestnut of "a work colleague is ill" and yesterday "Emergency job" came in. Before anyone jumps on maybe they were having a bad day, no, that's not it which would become apparent if we went in to full details.
So, as of yesterday I've decided that I will no longer to agree to meet anyone new off FAB unless they are happy to say a quick hello on webcam (which also proves I'm genuine too), or can send a face photo with a card showing my username on it via PM or kik.
Might sound bitchy, but I'm fed up of going through the mental preparation for meeting, the getting ready and arranging times etc only for it to be an utter waste of time.
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Far to many messers on here . I met my fair share too. I would not travel that far firstly you would be way too tired. I went for a meet to far and cos I did not get face photos I did not enjoy the meet . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Another thing to bear in mind as a very general rule, if you've been chatting for months and no meet, that's another warning sign. In my experience chatters ain't meeters! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Another thing to bear in mind as a very general rule, if you've been chatting for months and no meet, that's another warning sign. In my experience chatters ain't meeters! "
In my experience pretty much nobody's a meeter! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Welcome to fab! It's the nature of the beast I'm afraid. " yes totally agree sex is a luxury and many other things come before it in life ,decisions are based on life as long as they let you know they can't make it they've at least done the right thing by you
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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One of the main problems is women get bombarded with messages! So you might arrange a meet then they get another couple of offers and end up cancelling. There are also a lot of people in here for attention not meets. No matter how ladies look on here someone will give them attention and praise. Think a lot come on here for that more than actual meets. Can't help but agree with some of the others and say it's the nature of the beast I'm afraid! Women be cancelling! |
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