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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I went out of my flat last friday and a male neighbour saw me dressed up and went to tell all my neighbours that i was a gay boy wearing weomens cloths infact i am a bi tgirl |
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"I went out of my flat last friday and a male neighbour saw me dressed up and went to tell all my neighbours that i was a gay boy wearing weomens cloths infact i am a bi tgirl"
We're sorry you have to put up with narrow minded neighbours. He sounds like a girly gossip, maybe he likes to wear heels in private |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Im sorry but at the end of the day you are a gay boy"
....and quotes like this shows how intolerent some people are, on a site where people are supposed to be liberated. Sexuality and gender are totally different but some idiots stuggle with that concept.
Sending big hugs to you OP. |
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"Im sorry but at the end of the day you are a gay boy
....and quotes like this shows how intolerent some people are, on a site where people are supposed to be liberated. Sexuality and gender are totally different but some idiots stuggle with that concept.
Sending big hugs to you OP. "
Totally agreed. Ignore the ignorant, just continue to do what makes you happy..
We can but attempt to educate, however, some will always be a lost hope.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They are not being intolerant on here.
They are merely pointing out how the majority of people view a bisexual man, who looks like a man, but dresses like a woman."
That is being intolerent, ignorant and factually incorrect. Try to defend it all you like but bi people aren't gay. We are attracted to both sexes. Just cos someone is TS/TG doesnt mean they are necessarily gay or bi. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I went out of my flat last friday and a male neighbour saw me dressed up and went to tell all my neighbours that i was a gay boy wearing weomens cloths infact i am a bi tgirl"
Sorry to read this, dont let it get you down. You are you fuck the haters x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Im sorry but at the end of the day you are a gay boy
....and quotes like this shows how intolerent some people are, on a site where people are supposed to be liberated. Sexuality and gender are totally different but some idiots stuggle with that concept.
Sending big hugs to you OP. "
I'll second that ( and the hugs)
Those are words i would have expected to hear from primary school children. In 1972 |
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By *hloevtTV/TS
over a year ago
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A ctossdresser gets a special kick from wearing female gender cloths. It has no reflection on the sexual orientation.most often straight.
A transvestite wants the full girly experience (but not be a girl full time) that usually means experiences with men.usually bi
A transsexual is going for the full monty wants or is living as a girl. Normaly has no interest in women so not bi.
So just because someone wears a dress it's not a reflection of their sexual preference.
As for me... I just love cock. Xx |
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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago
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"It's not narrow mindedness. It's how the majority of people think. The majority of people are straight and the sex that they were born, and dress accordingly.
Minorities are just that!"
Yes and its called narrow mindedness. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Im sorry but at the end of the day you are a gay boy
Your very wrong !
What one wears does not define their sexuality"
Exactly people need to get over themselves. Be you and the rest can jog on in my opinion. I get the frustration though.we have had similar experiences x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Oh yawn.
Who gives a fuck what anyone thinks OP.
I know for a fact that most people are just gagging to be themselves but are trapped living a lie.
You're out there having fun and living life.
If it enhances your peoples boring lives gossiping then let them get on with it!
It won't be long before he asks you out |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Im sorry but at the end of the day you are a gay boy"
I love reading remarks like this. Makes me realise that there's even bigger idiots out there than me!
OP chin up and keep on keeping on |
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"Oh yawn.
Who gives a fuck what anyone thinks OP.
I know for a fact that most people are just gagging to be themselves but are trapped living a lie.
You're out there having fun and living life.
If it enhances your peoples boring lives gossiping then let them get on with it!
It won't be long before he asks you out "
Exactly I came in last night after a night out in Manchester Village, wearing a little black dress after dancing the night away. No neighbors caught me unfortunately as he's quite hot
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By (user no longer on site)
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I've quite a long view on this subject, majority of my friends are gay and I know plenty of tv "girls" they have openly said to me they are gay/bi men who enjoy dressing as women so therefore gay men. The trans folk I know both male and female are genuinely mentally the sex they identify with but are still making that transition.
However who really gives a fuck what the neighbors think? |
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Seriously, look at the original poster. He's just a regular looking man in a wig and a dress.
If you put a wig and a dress on the big burly masculine builder on the nearest building site, that's what he would look like.
Remember the scene in Blackadder when Edmund is getting married and Baldrick is the bridesmaid? It was just Baldrick with his beard, in a dress.
It's the same thing here.
You just cannot expect people to take that seriously whether we are in 1717, 1917, 1971 or 2017! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Seriously, look at the original poster. He's just a regular looking man in a wig and a dress.
If you put a wig and a dress on the big burly masculine builder on the nearest building site, that's what he would look like.
Remember the scene in Blackadder when Edmund is getting married and Baldrick is the bridesmaid? It was just Baldrick with his beard, in a dress.
It's the same thing here.
You just cannot expect people to take that seriously whether we are in 1717, 1917, 1971 or 2017!"
Tbh I think you are the joke after replying with that shite. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is telling someone's neighbours that a bisexual man in a wig and a dress a hate crime? By what definition?
It might be an inaccurate description of their sexuality, but it is not a crime."
Hate Crime What is it?
A Hate Incident is any incident which the victim, or anyone else, thinks is based on someones prejudice towards them because of their race, religion, sexual orientation, disability or because they are transgender.
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"Is telling someone's neighbours that a bisexual man in a wig and a dress a hate crime? By what definition?
It might be an inaccurate description of their sexuality, but it is not a crime.
Hate Crime What is it?
A Hate Incident is any incident which the victim, or anyone else, thinks is based on someones prejudice towards them because of their race, religion, sexual orientation, disability or because they are transgender.
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Thanks. It's really clear what hate crime is but that poster seems to perceive such behaviour as normal. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Seriously, look at the original poster. He's just a regular looking man in a wig and a dress.
If you put a wig and a dress on the big burly masculine builder on the nearest building site, that's what he would look like.
Remember the scene in Blackadder when Edmund is getting married and Baldrick is the bridesmaid? It was just Baldrick with his beard, in a dress.
It's the same thing here.
You just cannot expect people to take that seriously whether we are in 1717, 1917, 1971 or 2017!"
"I am relaxed and not pushy, nor rude, nor inconsiderate!" I disagree!!!! |
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"Seriously, look at the original poster. He's just a regular looking man in a wig and a dress.
If you put a wig and a dress on the big burly masculine builder on the nearest building site, that's what he would look like.
Remember the scene in Blackadder when Edmund is getting married and Baldrick is the bridesmaid? It was just Baldrick with his beard, in a dress.
It's the same thing here.
You just cannot expect people to take that seriously whether we are in 1717, 1917, 1971 or 2017!"
You're mixing sexuality with gender.
What about the big burly builder who's transsexual and has to deal the hand dealt compared to the cross dresser who is naturally slim and feminine.
Is one more acceptable to you purely because of the visual ?
If I masturbate I always look at womens genitalia.
On that note just rubbed one out over your pic , I should change my masturbation imagery but it's habit I suppose. |
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The tests are
Was there any use of derogatory language that referred to sexual orientation or transgender identity?
Was it a sustained attack?
Did it involve excessive violence?
Was cruelty, humiliation or degradation involved?
Was the area in which the incident occurred particularly associated with gay or transgender activity or was it in response to or undertaken at a time coinciding with a social or political meeting such as Pride?
So the answer is no in this case.
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"Im sorry but at the end of the day you are a gay boy"
Interesting view
On that premis then, the fem in this couple must be a lezza
OP I'd be more offended at being called a boy tbh at your age! Joking aside,ignore them, they don't understand. If they start making trouble for you, report them. |
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By *ustJ0dieTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Seriously, look at the original poster. He's just a regular looking man in a wig and a dress.
If you put a wig and a dress on the big burly masculine builder on the nearest building site, that's what he would look like.
Remember the scene in Blackadder when Edmund is getting married and Baldrick is the bridesmaid? It was just Baldrick with his beard, in a dress.
It's the same thing here.
You just cannot expect people to take that seriously whether we are in 1717, 1917, 1971 or 2017!"
No what we expect is for people who know nothing, or who get their education from the "school of life" or university of "stands to reason" to shut the fuck up and leave their opinions back in the dark ages.
Your opinions are why hate crime exists. And why suicide rates among trans people are the highest of any minority group.
Just leave people alone and as Adam Hills says, don't be a dick.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sometimes when you have nothing good to say, it is best to say nothing at all.
I do sometimes wonder though, if you have to look all Alpha and Macho by slagging off a TG/TS forumite, it probably says more about you than you would probably admit?
Scared you might be tempted to the dark side?
Live and let live |
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"I went out of my flat last friday and a male neighbour saw me dressed up and went to tell all my neighbours that i was a gay boy wearing weomens cloths infact i am a bi tgirl"
as long as you feel ok in yourself fuck what your neighbor thinks.. he sounds like a cunt.. who's probably jealous cos your having a better time than he is.. |
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People are entitled to an opinion and to express it.
You cannot insult people by claiming that they have not been to university, when they have, and saying that their opinions are from the Dark Ages, just because their opinions are not yours.
You cannot expect people to take a person who is obviously a man in a dress seriously.
The original poster's neighbour thought that he must be gay because he dressed like that and he told the other neighbours so.
In fact the original poster is bisexual, so the neighbour's belief was not quite correct, but as the poster likes homosexual sex as well as heterosexual sex, then the neighbour was not completely wrong.
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"Sometimes when you have nothing good to say, it is best to say nothing at all.
I do sometimes wonder though, if you have to look all Alpha and Macho by slagging off a TG/TS forumite, it probably says more about you than you would probably admit?
Scared you might be tempted to the dark side?
Live and let live "
All comments have to be positive?
Even though he looks like a man!
In which case he is a man
Don't upset the trannys |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sometimes when you have nothing good to say, it is best to say nothing at all.
I do sometimes wonder though, if you have to look all Alpha and Macho by slagging off a TG/TS forumite, it probably says more about you than you would probably admit?
Scared you might be tempted to the dark side?
Live and let live "
Probably a lot of truth in this. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sometimes when you have nothing good to say, it is best to say nothing at all.
I do sometimes wonder though, if you have to look all Alpha and Macho by slagging off a TG/TS forumite, it probably says more about you than you would probably admit?
Scared you might be tempted to the dark side?
Live and let live
All comments have to be positive?
Even though he looks like a man!
In which case he is a man
Don't upset the trannys "
I know some women that look like men. I even know of a bloke who looks like a woman who looks like a man. Does it matter?
No need to slag the OP off though for their looks or life choices
Have a crack at me for being a scrawny arsed munter with no dress sense, zero charisma and a bizarre self-belief in a humour I can't carry off. |
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Nonsense. It's just an exuse.
The fact is that most people are not going to take a man who looks like a man in a wig in a dress seriously, and if you think that the reason for that is otherwise, then you are deluded. |
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"Nonsense. It's just an exuse.
The fact is that most people are not going to take a man who looks like a man in a wig in a dress seriously, and if you think that the reason for that is otherwise, then you are deluded."
I stopped myself from asking earlier.
Okay, what do you mean by being taken seriously? I think I know the answer but go on ..... |
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By *ustJ0dieTV/TS
over a year ago
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"People are entitled to an opinion and to express it.
You cannot insult people by claiming that they have not been to university, when they have, and saying that their opinions are from the Dark Ages, just because their opinions are not yours.
You cannot expect people to take a person who is obviously a man in a dress seriously.
The original poster's neighbour thought that he must be gay because he dressed like that and he told the other neighbours so.
In fact the original poster is bisexual, so the neighbour's belief was not quite correct, but as the poster likes homosexual sex as well as heterosexual sex, then the neighbour was not completely wrong.
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Oh I love a good masterdebater. You are entitled to an opinion, you are correct. And you are entitled to express it. But it does not make that opinion fact. And it does not make that opinion unnecessarily hurtful. Which was obviously your intention as there was no other reason for expressing it on a thread from someone who was already showing she was upset from some other arseholes actions.
What you are saying is that everyone should be judged on appearances. And if a person does not conform to your ideal of what someone should look like, then they are fair game for ridicule and humiliation. Those are indeed opinions from the dark ages, and as I said why suicide rates are so high among those who struggle with this on a daily basis.
Also, I never said you didn't go to university. Just that you get your opinions from the lowest common denominator. The bloke down the pub. The Daily Mail. That sort of thing. Obviously a univeristy education didn't teach idioms. Only idiots.
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If a man who is obviously a man and looks like a man puts on a dress, then it is likely that they will be the subject of adverse comment by the overwhelming majority of people who dress and live appropriately to their gender.
The original poster's neighbour's only comment was that he must be gay because he dressed like that. In fact he is bisexual. |
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By *ustJ0dieTV/TS
over a year ago
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"If a man who is obviously a man and looks like a man puts on a dress, then it is likely that they will be the subject of adverse comment by the overwhelming majority of people who dress and live appropriately to their gender.
The original poster's neighbour's only comment was that he must be gay because he dressed like that. In fact he is bisexual."
So you're saying that you believe the overwhelming majority of people will openly and loudly ridicule him/her? And you're fine with that?
Not in fucking earshot of me they wont. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If a man who is obviously a man and looks like a man puts on a dress, then it is likely that they will be the subject of adverse comment by the overwhelming majority of people who dress and live appropriately to their gender.
The original poster's neighbour's only comment was that he must be gay because he dressed like that. In fact he is bisexual."
What utter rubbish !
Like i said earlier,what one wears does not define their sexuality,pal.
Only what they do/dont do physically with other people defines their sexuality |
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"If a man who is obviously a man and looks like a man puts on a dress, then it is likely that they will be the subject of adverse comment by the overwhelming majority of people who dress and live appropriately to their gender.
The original poster's neighbour's only comment was that he must be gay because he dressed like that. In fact he is bisexual."
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Yes people will give adverse comments but does that make it right ?
It's like me going on about the straight label on your profile but the comments on a bi/gay sauna you posted in a previous thread seem to insinuate you have knowledge of it and 2-3 others.
Now you present as straight ,is it fair for me to assume you're a gay boy from that public expression of knowledge of gay bi saunas ?
No it's not , you may just have been a really helpful forumite who googled reviews for a member.
The gay/bi sauna's may have had a hetero night when you went.
Doesn't make you a gay boy, does it ? |
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"The fact that I have knowledge of things shows that I am well read.
They have no similarties to me putting on a dress and a wig and pretending to be a woman, when I am not and look like a man
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But that wasn't the op's original point was it , the op's point was the fact that because she was dressed as a woman and her own gender identity is as a trans woman , this guy advised all her neighbours she was a gay boy.
You think that's ok because in your eyes she looks like a man in a wig.
But if I walked into your living room and you had up reviews of 2-3 bi/gay saunas and I knocked on the doors of all the neighbours advising you were a gay boy because of this , I'd be wrong wouldn't I ?
You're just a well read straight chap who hasn't yet read gender diversity tomes.
Someone Trans doesn't have to be the "ideal" body , looks and voice to still feel something different.
Fuck the labels anyway it's all bollocks
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A transsexual is going for the full monty wants or is living as a girl. Normaly has no interest in women so not bi.
Ummm...nope. I'm trans, and most definitely bi, verging on lesbian.
Sexuality and gender are not the same. Otherwise we wouldn't have gay people would we. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"People are entitled to an opinion and to express it.
You cannot insult people by claiming that they have not been to university, when they have, and saying that their opinions are from the Dark Ages, just because their opinions are not yours.
You cannot expect people to take a person who is obviously a man in a dress seriously.
The original poster's neighbour thought that he must be gay because he dressed like that and he told the other neighbours so.
In fact the original poster is bisexual, so the neighbour's belief was not quite correct, but as the poster likes homosexual sex as well as heterosexual sex, then the neighbour was not completely wrong.
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Everyone's entitled to an opinion but we're not entitled to express ignorance... All your Fab neighbours now think you're very ignorant for feeling entitled to define another human being's reality, based upon your perceptions of their life... I guess most will just block you out of their field of view due to you voluntarily choosing to be ignorant and deaf to how someone whishes to be in life...
The majority does not get to define individuals or minorities... the majority has herd mentality and is brainwashed by a very toxic, parasitical entitled hierarchy... That's about to be toppled from it's castle made of sand. |
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A transsexual is going for the full monty wants or is living as a girl. Normaly has no interest in women so not bi.
Ummm...nope. I'm trans, and most definitely bi, verging on lesbian.
Sexuality and gender are not the same. Otherwise we wouldn't have gay people would we. " |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Wow, considering this "scene" is about "taboo" or "deviant social behaviour" it's hard to understand some of the comments on here. Those judging people for appearance or sexual preferences need to remember the same judgements could be made about them by friends, colleagues and family. This is 2017 not 1977 |
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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago
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"The fact that I have knowledge of things shows that I am well read.
They have no similarties to me putting on a dress and a wig and pretending to be a woman, when I am not and look like a man
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Can you answer why the chap in question felt the need to go and tell all the neighbours? That comes under bullying and humiliation. And it doesn't matter whether you can take the op seriously or not in a dress. She doesn't bloody wear it for you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The fact that I have knowledge of things shows that I am well read.
They have no similarties to me putting on a dress and a wig and pretending to be a woman, when I am not and look like a man
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Well read? Sorry but you are only coming across as a bigotted Daily Mail reader. How people chose to live their lives is their decision. They should be free to live their lives how they wish. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nonsense. It's just an exuse.
The fact is that most people are not going to take a man who looks like a man in a wig in a dress seriously, and if you think that the reason for that is otherwise, then you are deluded."
Actually all your statements are deluded. I am a straight guy but I am not going to prejudice against someone because of the way they dress. I am not scared of a guy in a dress. If a TS/TV chatted me up I would find it funny and be honoured. I would decline obviously well if I couldn't tell and they were hot I might not. Oh does that make me gay now in your sad pafetic world. |
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This 'taken seriously' sounds like a euphemism for respect.
And this freedom to speak as one wishes, is subject to what's appropriate, with restrictions imposed by the state as well as specific establishments, such as Fab site rules. |
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"The fact that I have knowledge of things shows that I am well read.
They have no similarties to me putting on a dress and a wig and pretending to be a woman, when I am not and look like a man
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The fact that you have knowledge of things may show that you are well read, but your comment's on here show you are narrow minded.
While you may not be pretending to be a woman you obviously have some issues which contradict the way you describe yourself on your profile. Why should someone be ridiculed for the way they dress or the life they lead?, much less their looks (such as the way you over describe yours in your profile).
Perhaps you should look closer to home when you want to look at what is and isn't normal. |
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"Nonsense. It's just an exuse.
The fact is that most people are not going to take a man who looks like a man in a wig in a dress seriously, and if you think that the reason for that is otherwise, then you are deluded.
Actually all your statements are deluded. I am a straight guy but I am not going to prejudice against someone because of the way they dress. I am not scared of a guy in a dress. If a TS/TV chatted me up I would find it funny and be honoured. I would decline obviously well if I couldn't tell and they were hot I might not. Oh does that make me gay now in your sad pafetic world. "
Why would you find it funny and why obviously would you decline? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If a man who is obviously a man and looks like a man puts on a dress, then it is likely that they will be the subject of adverse comment by the overwhelming majority of people who dress and live appropriately to their gender.
The original poster's neighbour's only comment was that he must be gay because he dressed like that. In fact he is bisexual.
So you're saying that you believe the overwhelming majority of people will openly and loudly ridicule him/her? And you're fine with that?
Not in fucking earshot of me they wont. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nonsense. It's just an exuse.
The fact is that most people are not going to take a man who looks like a man in a wig in a dress seriously, and if you think that the reason for that is otherwise, then you are deluded.
Actually all your statements are deluded. I am a straight guy but I am not going to prejudice against someone because of the way they dress. I am not scared of a guy in a dress. If a TS/TV chatted me up I would find it funny and be honoured. I would decline obviously well if I couldn't tell and they were hot I might not. Oh does that make me gay now in your sad pafetic world.
Why would you find it funny and why obviously would you decline?" can you read my statement again and the answer lies within it. |
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"Sometimes when you have nothing good to say, it is best to say nothing at all.
I do sometimes wonder though, if you have to look all Alpha and Macho by slagging off a TG/TS forumite, it probably says more about you than you would probably admit?
Scared you might be tempted to the dark side?
Live and let live
All comments have to be positive?
Even though he looks like a man!
In which case he is a man
Don't upset the trannys "
i think you'll find the correct non derogtory terminology is Trans... |
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"If a man who is obviously a man and looks like a man puts on a dress, then it is likely that they will be the subject of adverse comment by the overwhelming majority of people who dress and live appropriately to their gender.
The original poster's neighbour's only comment was that he must be gay because he dressed like that. In fact he is bisexual.
So you're saying that you believe the overwhelming majority of people will openly and loudly ridicule him/her? And you're fine with that?
Not in fucking earshot of me they wont. "
Nor Me... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If I see man man who is obviously a man dressed and made up as a woman I tend to just keep quiet.
After all it's up tp Him/Her what they wear and how they feel and fuck all to do with me
After all as someone else said if you have nothing positive to say then silence is soetimes the best policy |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Ignorance and intolerance... sounds pretty rife where you are.
Always a concern when knuckle draggers have nothing else to do except project there insecurities and hang up's on what your doing.
Hope things improve...
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I don't really get the tolerance thing! I would rather people either took me and were nice or left me alone n got on with there own shit, rather than tolerated me ! |
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