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"See i just wrote a lovely message to a lady. To find out she bulk delete a load of messages and mine was in there. What is the point in being nice on here and writing a lovely message if that happens please tell me " i can understand you feeling disappointed by that. thing is she is on here to do things the way she wants to do them. and bulk delete is one of those ways for her and is not personal to you in any way. she's figured out bulk deleting works for her and did not consider you in that at all. you need to understand is that she also does not need to consider you as she's here for herself and anyone she feels compatible with. don't take it personally, she bulk deleted lots of guys messages also. being yourself, if you genuinely are nice, will work. but it can take a while to figure out how to do that. i'm looking for more specific stuff now and honestly won't find that here, so i don't invest myself in looking for it. i feel relaxed about that too. | |||
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"See i just wrote a lovely message to a lady. To find out she bulk delete a load of messages and mine was in there. What is the point in being nice on here and writing a lovely message if that happens please tell me i can understand you feeling disappointed by that. thing is she is on here to do things the way she wants to do them. and bulk delete is one of those ways for her and is not personal to you in any way. she's figured out bulk deleting works for her and did not consider you in that at all. you need to understand is that she also does not need to consider you as she's here for herself and anyone she feels compatible with. don't take it personally, she bulk deleted lots of guys messages also. being yourself, if you genuinely are nice, will work. but it can take a while to figure out how to do that. i'm looking for more specific stuff now and honestly won't find that here, so i don't invest myself in looking for it. i feel relaxed about that too." | |||
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"I get offers from women and couples all the time...... Can you see where you're going wrong now? " Are you saying he should consider becoming a TV/TS...? | |||
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"I've green arrowed you OP and you are one miserable bloke! Nobody owes you anything here, not a reply, a shag or a slice of cake. If what you are doing is not working, change it." | |||
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"I've green arrowed you OP and you are one miserable bloke! Nobody owes you anything here, not a reply, a shag or a slice of cake. If what you are doing is not working, change it." Ahhhhhh... | |||
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"I have done everything know to man on this site in the way of showing manners and being polite towards people. Cant for once i get some back. Or is it just that you need to be a bad boy on here to get somewhere. Because being nice sure dont pay one little bit. " I see little point in complaining. It's similar to the real life, but can be even colder. I see hundreds of people every day. Do I connect with them? No, unless I step on someone's toes in the underground and say "Sorry" , receive a " smile" , I mean, a flash display of teeth, and that's the end of the contact. Fab is just a medium for people to connect. Thousands of people. All different. And noone owes anything to anyone else. Just take your time and your chances to sift through as many profiles as you can and surely, at some point you click with someone. You may be more successful at a night club or pub than online. It's often the case that there are more girls in clubs than men. | |||
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"I have done everything know to man on this site in the way of showing manners and being polite towards people. Cant for once i get some back. Or is it just that you need to be a bad boy on here to get somewhere. Because being nice sure dont pay one little bit. " looked at your profile straight away put off by Cannot accomadate | |||
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"OP, have you taken a look at the other numerous threads on here, all asking the same thing? It not just about whether you are nice or not but down to the fact that meets won't come your way without effort on your part. You are up against so many other guys,all seeking the same thing! You have to stand out, make yourself noticed. So, your profile says nothing; a partial facial shot and two cock pics say nothing about you. Ditch the cock pics to private, and get a full face pic up instead. If you cannot do this say so & why! You state you can't accommodate; you need to say why, other wise it puts people off. Get into clubs, socials and the Forums; you have to get noticed for all the right reasons. Putting in the effort to "sell" yourself yields results, but it takes patience, perseverance, & even more patience! Good luck. " nicely put x | |||
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"Best advice is be patient until called upon and scooped out of the fish tank. And if it takes a year and still nothing by that time people will think your a fake profile anyway, so just create another cunt and fingers crossed for another year lol. Or try doing socials, but... in that case you need 3 verification meets by someone you know in the click to even attend an organised social. Honestly dude I don't know LMAO maybe try chopping your bollacks and cock off and becoming a woman or change your skin black (Truth hurts) " There are a lot of socials and even clubs you can go too to get verified the leeds social and even the barnsley social are accepting single guys you lot just want everything handed to you on a plate no wonder you get no where get off ya lazy backside stop complaining and do something about it us wemon want men not silly little boys xx | |||
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"I have done everything know to man on this site in the way of showing manners and being polite towards people. Cant for once i get some back. Or is it just that you need to be a bad boy on here to get somewhere. Because being nice sure dont pay one little bit. " Having green arrowed you, you come across as the whinging, glass half empty, complaining type! Not attractive traits to us ladies! Maybe it is time to start looking closer to home as to why you are struggling instead of automatically blaming someone else for your lack of success?? | |||
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"I get offers from women and couples all the time...... Can you see where you're going wrong now? Are you saying he should consider becoming a TV/TS...? " Hey, could be worth a shot. Having smooth legs feels amazing and you get to buy and wear some gorgeous things. The pay's crap though. | |||
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"Hey, could be worth a shot. Having smooth legs feels amazing and you get to buy and wear some gorgeous things. The pay's crap though. " They're very lovely smooth legs!! | |||
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"I've green arrowed you OP and you are one miserable bloke! Nobody owes you anything here, not a reply, a shag or a slice of cake. If what you are doing is not working, change it." Lol...I (ms) look for fun and sexy in our meets. | |||
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"Hey, could be worth a shot. Having smooth legs feels amazing and you get to buy and wear some gorgeous things. The pay's crap though. They're very lovely smooth legs!! " Aw. Fanks. | |||
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"Bad or good. Nice or horrible. Cruel or kind. Us men struggle just to even get a chat rolling, if you get chatting without being blocked or receiving abuse back you have done well my friend " Gosh steady, your white male privillage is showing. Welcome to the world of the female of the species. | |||
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"I have done everything know to man on this site in the way of showing manners and being polite towards people. Cant for once i get some back. Or is it just that you need to be a bad boy on here to get somewhere. Because being nice sure dont pay one little bit. " Well to be blunt your profiles awful. If you emailed us it would be instant no to meeting no matter how good the email was. You haven't done everything known to man. You haven't researched what a good profile looks like and what couples/women want. 99% of women/ couples don't go for cock shots. 2/3rds of your photos are cock shots and pretty awful ones too. The descriptions shit and your header message is wining and moaning. It's saying your a moaning man with little idea of what others want. Not a great selling point is it? Harsh but true. | |||
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"I've green arrowed you OP and you are one miserable bloke! Nobody owes you anything here, not a reply, a shag or a slice of cake. If what you are doing is not working, change it." Please excuse the ignorance. But what does 'green arrowed' mean and how you do it ? Thanks | |||
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"I've green arrowed you OP and you are one miserable bloke! Nobody owes you anything here, not a reply, a shag or a slice of cake. If what you are doing is not working, change it. Please excuse the ignorance. But what does 'green arrowed' mean and how you do it ? Thanks" If you click on the green arrow next to a poster's name on here, it shows you all the other threads the person has commented in or created. Insightful! | |||
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"I have done everything know to man on this site in the way of showing manners and being polite towards people. Cant for once i get some back. Or is it just that you need to be a bad boy on here to get somewhere. Because being nice sure dont pay one little bit. " Because you were nice and showed manners you've had meets !! Plenty on here never ever had a meet let alone a few ! If being deleted is denting your ego you are going to need to toughen up I'm afraid ..it happens to us all!! You are owed zero from the site so ditch the sense of entitlement and just treat response you get as a bonus . | |||
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"I've green arrowed you OP and you are one miserable bloke! Nobody owes you anything here, not a reply, a shag or a slice of cake. If what you are doing is not working, change it. Please excuse the ignorance. But what does 'green arrowed' mean and how you do it ? Thanks for the answer and info Thanks If you click on the green arrow next to a poster's name on here, it shows you all the other threads the person has commented in or created. Insightful!" | |||
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" so we pretend we are dead in the hopes you leave us alone. " Fuck! My cover is blown. PTU xxx | |||
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"I've green arrowed you OP and you are one miserable bloke! Nobody owes you anything here, not a reply, a shag or a slice of cake. If what you are doing is not working, change it. Please excuse the ignorance. But what does 'green arrowed' mean and how you do it ? Thanks If you click on the green arrow next to a poster's name on here, it shows you all the other threads the person has commented in or created. Insightful!" Oops ! I some how messed the reply up. Thanks MrsR for the advice. You're right, insightful | |||
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"Patience is key. Go in with no expectations. Above all, be respectful – don't be something you're not! I'm just sitting back and waiting for them to queue up.... still waiting " You are young, you can afford to wait. Don't be in a hurry. You'd have much better chance at your age if you were a true swinger - with a girl as a couple. | |||
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"Patience is key. Go in with no expectations. Above all, be respectful – don't be something you're not! I'm just sitting back and waiting for them to queue up.... still waiting You are young, you can afford to wait. Don't be in a hurry. You'd have much better chance at your age if you were a true swinger - with a girl as a couple." Everyone is young at heart. Fair comment though | |||
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"See i just wrote a lovely message to a lady. To find out she bulk delete a load of messages and mine was in there. What is the point in being nice on here and writing a lovely message if that happens please tell me " Be patient. It also helps to have the mindset of not expecting a reply at all. If you constantly get your hopes up, only to see your messages bulk deleted, or read and not replied/deleted you're always going to be disappointed. Looking at your profile I'd say you are doing okay already though, chin up and just get on with it Your other option is to goto a club. All the best. | |||
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" so we pretend we are dead in the hopes you leave us alone. Fuck! My cover is blown. PTU xxx" Just passing through and this made me laugh! Haha | |||
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"I have done everything know to man on this site in the way of showing manners and being polite towards people. Cant for once i get some back. Or is it just that you need to be a bad boy on here to get somewhere. Because being nice sure dont pay one little bit. " You have no chance on here, the select few seem to run the place ruining it for us who are new to the site and scene, bit like some of the clubs. Good luck x | |||
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"See i just wrote a lovely message to a lady. To find out she bulk delete a load of messages and mine was in there. What is the point in being nice on here and writing a lovely message if that happens please tell me " No point Just remember we look at a profile before the message | |||
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"You have no chance on here, the select few seem to run the place ruining it for us who are new to the site and scene, bit like some of the clubs. Good luck x " Is this for real? | |||
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"You have no chance on here, the select few seem to run the place ruining it for us who are new to the site and scene, bit like some of the clubs. Good luck x Is this for real? " Completely real, just what we are experiencing on here to date, ignored all the time. | |||
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"I have done everything know to man on this site in the way of showing manners and being polite towards people. Cant for once i get some back. Or is it just that you need to be a bad boy on here to get somewhere. Because being nice sure dont pay one little bit. You have no chance on here, the select few seem to run the place ruining it for us who are new to the site and scene, bit like some of the clubs. Good luck x " Exactly who is ruining what, and how? | |||
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"You have no chance on here, the select few seem to run the place ruining it for us who are new to the site and scene, bit like some of the clubs. Good luck x Is this for real? Completely real, just what we are experiencing on here to date, ignored all the time." What did you expect? | |||
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"I have done everything know to man on this site in the way of showing manners and being polite towards people. Cant for once i get some back. Or is it just that you need to be a bad boy on here to get somewhere. Because being nice sure dont pay one little bit. You have no chance on here, the select few seem to run the place ruining it for us who are new to the site and scene, bit like some of the clubs. Good luck x " who are they?...and how do they go about ruining it for you? | |||
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"You have no chance on here, the select few seem to run the place ruining it for us who are new to the site and scene, bit like some of the clubs. Good luck x Is this for real? Completely real, just what we are experiencing on here to date, ignored all the time. What did you expect?" A far less clique environment, how can so called swingers be sonstand offish?? Doesn't ring right with us, no agenda here. | |||
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"You have no chance on here, the select few seem to run the place ruining it for us who are new to the site and scene, bit like some of the clubs. Good luck x Is this for real? Completely real, just what we are experiencing on here to date, ignored all the time. " and you think you are ignored because of what?..the 'select few' interfering with your messages..intimidating the recipients into ignoring you?..how exactly...have you considered any other possible reason?...becasue yours makes no sense whatsoever.. | |||
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"Completely real, just what we are experiencing on here to date, ignored all the time. What did you expect? A far less clique environment, how can so called swingers be sonstand offish?? Doesn't ring right with us, no agenda here. " You are looking for very particular things so why would people who don't match engage with you? Fab is what you make it. There's no red carpet | |||
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"You have no chance on here, the select few seem to run the place ruining it for us who are new to the site and scene, bit like some of the clubs. Good luck x Is this for real? Completely real, just what we are experiencing on here to date, ignored all the time. and you think you are ignored because of what?..the 'select few' interfering with your messages..intimidating the recipients into ignoring you?..how exactly...have you considered any other possible reason?...becasue yours makes no sense whatsoever.." Start a forum on it then and see what the majority think then. Not looking to offend anybody but it's like no one but the few exist on here. | |||
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"Start a forum on it then and see what the majority think then. Not looking to offend anybody but it's like no one but the few exist on here." We were all new once and we all made our way. From experience though I'd say negative people don't do well | |||
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"You have no chance on here, the select few seem to run the place ruining it for us who are new to the site and scene, bit like some of the clubs. Good luck x Is this for real? Completely real, just what we are experiencing on here to date, ignored all the time. What did you expect? A far less clique environment, how can so called swingers be sonstand offish?? Doesn't ring right with us, no agenda here. " Cliques are everywhere in life. Pub, club, online etc etc, the simple fact is that forums give some people a voice which in everyday life they don't have! Swingers are just like everyone else, many are close minded, intolerant, self absorbed, egotistical, racist etc It's a nice profile and lovely pics btw but you will find some people taking offence to your preferences (under size 12 for example) doesn't offend us. Now you've been in the scene 3 months get out there a play or at least if you have been playing with others get a verification then people will see you are swingers. Yes there is a clique in here, so what, embrace, ignore or fight, the choice is yours xx | |||
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"You have no chance on here, the select few seem to run the place ruining it for us who are new to the site and scene, bit like some of the clubs. Good luck x Is this for real? Completely real, just what we are experiencing on here to date, ignored all the time. and you think you are ignored because of what?..the 'select few' interfering with your messages..intimidating the recipients into ignoring you?..how exactly...have you considered any other possible reason?...becasue yours makes no sense whatsoever.. Start a forum on it then and see what the majority think then. Not looking to offend anybody but it's like no one but the few exist on here." you're on a forum about it now! and you're not making any sense at all...and the majority will probably say the same as most say on all the similar threads..not everyones profile is going to appeal to everyone on here..maybe that is where you should look first before blaming some non existent entity.. | |||
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"Red Carpet? Who said we expected or want one of those, surely manners cost nothing. Rest our case..lol " Who is being rude to you then? | |||
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"Red Carpet? Who said we expected or want one of those, surely manners cost nothing. Rest our case..lol Who is being rude to you then? " Ignorance, we can see why so many moan about no meets , far to much to type to explain but we get it now. We will just continue being ourselves and hopefully find some likeminded people, who aren't negative too. | |||
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"Red Carpet? Who said we expected or want one of those, surely manners cost nothing. Rest our case..lol Who is being rude to you then? Ignorance, we can see why so many moan about no meets , far to much to type to explain but we get it now. We will just continue being ourselves and hopefully find some likeminded people, who aren't negative too. " You're still not making any sense. Who is being ignorant to you? | |||
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"Red Carpet? Who said we expected or want one of those, surely manners cost nothing. Rest our case..lol Who is being rude to you then? Ignorance, we can see why so many moan about no meets , far to much to type to explain but we get it now. We will just continue being ourselves and hopefully find some likeminded people, who aren't negative too. You're still not making any sense. Who is being ignorant to you?" Read the forums where we have posted and you will see for yourself It's so obvious to see Perhaps they don't like my taste in lingerie, lol | |||
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"I have done everything know to man on this site in the way of showing manners and being polite towards people. Cant for once i get some back. Or is it just that you need to be a bad boy on here to get somewhere. Because being nice sure dont pay one little bit. You have no chance on here, the select few seem to run the place ruining it for us who are new to the site and scene, bit like some of the clubs. Good luck x " Oh, if only we had that power. Not sure how other members can 'ruin' the site for newbies. Do they stalk your profile and sneak in to grab meets before you? Or have they messaged you to tell you to watch your step? I suspect that you may indulging in hyperbole. | |||
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"I have done everything know to man on this site in the way of showing manners and being polite towards people. Cant for once i get some back. Or is it just that you need to be a bad boy on here to get somewhere. Because being nice sure dont pay one little bit. You have no chance on here, the select few seem to run the place ruining it for us who are new to the site and scene, bit like some of the clubs. Good luck x Oh, if only we had that power. Not sure how other members can 'ruin' the site for newbies. Do they stalk your profile and sneak in to grab meets before you? Or have they messaged you to tell you to watch your step? I suspect that you may indulging in hyperbole." You know what, you guys do your thing and we will do ours, works for us. Don't need or want adoration, here for fun. | |||
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"Snap ! I think the bad boy persona is the way of fabswingers. " I agree | |||
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"Red Carpet? Who said we expected or want one of those, surely manners cost nothing. Rest our case..lol Who is being rude to you then? Ignorance, we can see why so many moan about no meets , far to much to type to explain but we get it now. We will just continue being ourselves and hopefully find some likeminded people, who aren't negative too. You're still not making any sense. Who is being ignorant to you? Read the forums where we have posted and you will see for yourself It's so obvious to see Perhaps they don't like my taste in lingerie, lol " Nope, I still have no idea what you are talking about. Are you saying you're ignore or vilified on the forums? | |||
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"Red Carpet? Who said we expected or want one of those, surely manners cost nothing. Rest our case..lol Who is being rude to you then? Ignorance, we can see why so many moan about no meets , far to much to type to explain but we get it now. We will just continue being ourselves and hopefully find some likeminded people, who aren't negative too. You're still not making any sense. Who is being ignorant to you? Read the forums where we have posted and you will see for yourself It's so obvious to see Perhaps they don't like my taste in lingerie, lol Nope, I still have no idea what you are talking about. Are you saying you're ignore or vilified on the forums?" Yes completely as if we haven't even posted. | |||
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"I have done everything know to man on this site in the way of showing manners and being polite towards people. Cant for once i get some back. Or is it just that you need to be a bad boy on here to get somewhere. Because being nice sure dont pay one little bit. " Look i only like a bad boy in bed . lol xx | |||
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"Red Carpet? Who said we expected or want one of those, surely manners cost nothing. Rest our case..lol Who is being rude to you then? Ignorance, we can see why so many moan about no meets , far to much to type to explain but we get it now. We will just continue being ourselves and hopefully find some likeminded people, who aren't negative too. You're still not making any sense. Who is being ignorant to you? Read the forums where we have posted and you will see for yourself It's so obvious to see Perhaps they don't like my taste in lingerie, lol Nope, I still have no idea what you are talking about. Are you saying you're ignore or vilified on the forums? Yes completely as if we haven't even posted." I've been here for over eight years and post often, I'm mostly ignored, not quoted and have been vilified on many occasions. I'm not part of any group but I do know a few forumites from way back and guess what, it happens to more people than you think. Nobody owes you anything. | |||
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"Red Carpet? Who said we expected or want one of those, surely manners cost nothing. Rest our case..lol Who is being rude to you then? Ignorance, we can see why so many moan about no meets , far to much to type to explain but we get it now. We will just continue being ourselves and hopefully find some likeminded people, who aren't negative too. You're still not making any sense. Who is being ignorant to you? Read the forums where we have posted and you will see for yourself It's so obvious to see Perhaps they don't like my taste in lingerie, lol Nope, I still have no idea what you are talking about. Are you saying you're ignore or vilified on the forums? Yes completely as if we haven't even posted. I've been here for over eight years and post often, I'm mostly ignored, not quoted and have been vilified on many occasions. I'm not part of any group but I do know a few forumites from way back and guess what, it happens to more people than you think. Nobody owes you anything." Having your posts ignored is a good sign it means your posts actually hit the nail in the head, are spot on and people have no comeback, so pat yourself in the back if your post is ignored..... | |||
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"Red Carpet? Who said we expected or want one of those, surely manners cost nothing. Rest our case..lol Who is being rude to you then? Ignorance, we can see why so many moan about no meets , far to much to type to explain but we get it now. We will just continue being ourselves and hopefully find some likeminded people, who aren't negative too. You're still not making any sense. Who is being ignorant to you? Read the forums where we have posted and you will see for yourself It's so obvious to see Perhaps they don't like my taste in lingerie, lol Nope, I still have no idea what you are talking about. Are you saying you're ignore or vilified on the forums? Yes completely as if we haven't even posted. I've been here for over eight years and post often, I'm mostly ignored, not quoted and have been vilified on many occasions. I'm not part of any group but I do know a few forumites from way back and guess what, it happens to more people than you think. Nobody owes you anything." Wasn't saying that we deserve anything, just manners but the few hold the reigns. Feels like being on a golf course. Dickheads in stupid jumpers springs to mind | |||
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"Red Carpet? Who said we expected or want one of those, surely manners cost nothing. Rest our case..lol Who is being rude to you then? Ignorance, we can see why so many moan about no meets , far to much to type to explain but we get it now. We will just continue being ourselves and hopefully find some likeminded people, who aren't negative too. You're still not making any sense. Who is being ignorant to you? Read the forums where we have posted and you will see for yourself It's so obvious to see Perhaps they don't like my taste in lingerie, lol Nope, I still have no idea what you are talking about. Are you saying you're ignore or vilified on the forums? Yes completely as if we haven't even posted. I've been here for over eight years and post often, I'm mostly ignored, not quoted and have been vilified on many occasions. I'm not part of any group but I do know a few forumites from way back and guess what, it happens to more people than you think. Nobody owes you anything. Wasn't saying that we deserve anything, just manners but the few hold the reigns. Feels like being on a golf course. Dickheads in stupid jumpers springs to mind" You are coming across in a very negative way. | |||
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"Red Carpet? Who said we expected or want one of those, surely manners cost nothing. Rest our case..lol Who is being rude to you then? Ignorance, we can see why so many moan about no meets , far to much to type to explain but we get it now. We will just continue being ourselves and hopefully find some likeminded people, who aren't negative too. You're still not making any sense. Who is being ignorant to you? Read the forums where we have posted and you will see for yourself It's so obvious to see Perhaps they don't like my taste in lingerie, lol Nope, I still have no idea what you are talking about. Are you saying you're ignore or vilified on the forums? Yes completely as if we haven't even posted. I've been here for over eight years and post often, I'm mostly ignored, not quoted and have been vilified on many occasions. I'm not part of any group but I do know a few forumites from way back and guess what, it happens to more people than you think. Nobody owes you anything. Having your posts ignored is a good sign it means your posts actually hit the nail in the head, are spot on and people have no comeback, so pat yourself in the back if your post is ignored....." *rushes off to tally up how smart I am* | |||
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"Red Carpet? Who said we expected or want one of those, surely manners cost nothing. Rest our case..lol Who is being rude to you then? Ignorance, we can see why so many moan about no meets , far to much to type to explain but we get it now. We will just continue being ourselves and hopefully find some likeminded people, who aren't negative too. You're still not making any sense. Who is being ignorant to you? Read the forums where we have posted and you will see for yourself It's so obvious to see Perhaps they don't like my taste in lingerie, lol Nope, I still have no idea what you are talking about. Are you saying you're ignore or vilified on the forums? Yes completely as if we haven't even posted. I've been here for over eight years and post often, I'm mostly ignored, not quoted and have been vilified on many occasions. I'm not part of any group but I do know a few forumites from way back and guess what, it happens to more people than you think. Nobody owes you anything. Having your posts ignored is a good sign it means your posts actually hit the nail in the head, are spot on and people have no comeback, so pat yourself in the back if your post is ignored..... *rushes off to tally up how smart I am*" Very we suspect and hot, damn ruined the notion now as we replied | |||
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"Red Carpet? Who said we expected or want one of those, surely manners cost nothing. Rest our case..lol Who is being rude to you then? Ignorance, we can see why so many moan about no meets , far to much to type to explain but we get it now. We will just continue being ourselves and hopefully find some likeminded people, who aren't negative too. You're still not making any sense. Who is being ignorant to you? Read the forums where we have posted and you will see for yourself It's so obvious to see Perhaps they don't like my taste in lingerie, lol Nope, I still have no idea what you are talking about. Are you saying you're ignore or vilified on the forums? Yes completely as if we haven't even posted. I've been here for over eight years and post often, I'm mostly ignored, not quoted and have been vilified on many occasions. I'm not part of any group but I do know a few forumites from way back and guess what, it happens to more people than you think. Nobody owes you anything. Wasn't saying that we deserve anything, just manners but the few hold the reigns. Feels like being on a golf course. Dickheads in stupid jumpers springs to mind" i'm not in a clique but honestly you'll either get several types of replies in the forums. ones from people trying to fuck you but can't get past your message filters (newbies are always popular when you join, i remember those days). the next newbie steals the above from you though. being controversial, or argumentative (this has worked in this topic already see). or if your personality stands out and resounds with others, or funny or make a really good statement. or are bland but lovely and don't cause a scene but cheer people up instead, this works on and off though and isn't a constant i noticed. i've chatted to myself on and off on here over the years and enjoyed myself mostly. i never expect to fit in anywhere, so long as i'm tolerated i'm happy enough. and that's how most places are, online and off it. | |||
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"Red Carpet? Who said we expected or want one of those, surely manners cost nothing. Rest our case..lol Who is being rude to you then? Ignorance, we can see why so many moan about no meets , far to much to type to explain but we get it now. We will just continue being ourselves and hopefully find some likeminded people, who aren't negative too. You're still not making any sense. Who is being ignorant to you? Read the forums where we have posted and you will see for yourself It's so obvious to see Perhaps they don't like my taste in lingerie, lol Nope, I still have no idea what you are talking about. Are you saying you're ignore or vilified on the forums? Yes completely as if we haven't even posted. I've been here for over eight years and post often, I'm mostly ignored, not quoted and have been vilified on many occasions. I'm not part of any group but I do know a few forumites from way back and guess what, it happens to more people than you think. Nobody owes you anything. Wasn't saying that we deserve anything, just manners but the few hold the reigns. Feels like being on a golf course. Dickheads in stupid jumpers springs to mind You are coming across in a very negative way." No not negative It's called having a sense of humour or an opinion Whoops how dare we, lol | |||
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"Red Carpet? Who said we expected or want one of those, surely manners cost nothing. Rest our case..lol Who is being rude to you then? Ignorance, we can see why so many moan about no meets , far to much to type to explain but we get it now. We will just continue being ourselves and hopefully find some likeminded people, who aren't negative too. You're still not making any sense. Who is being ignorant to you? Read the forums where we have posted and you will see for yourself It's so obvious to see Perhaps they don't like my taste in lingerie, lol Nope, I still have no idea what you are talking about. Are you saying you're ignore or vilified on the forums? Yes completely as if we haven't even posted. I've been here for over eight years and post often, I'm mostly ignored, not quoted and have been vilified on many occasions. I'm not part of any group but I do know a few forumites from way back and guess what, it happens to more people than you think. Nobody owes you anything. Having your posts ignored is a good sign it means your posts actually hit the nail in the head, are spot on and people have no comeback, so pat yourself in the back if your post is ignored..... *rushes off to tally up how smart I am* Very we suspect and hot, damn ruined the notion now as we replied " Yeah, shut uuuuuuup. | |||
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"Red Carpet? Who said we expected or want one of those, surely manners cost nothing. Rest our case..lol Who is being rude to you then? Ignorance, we can see why so many moan about no meets , far to much to type to explain but we get it now. We will just continue being ourselves and hopefully find some likeminded people, who aren't negative too. You're still not making any sense. Who is being ignorant to you? Read the forums where we have posted and you will see for yourself It's so obvious to see Perhaps they don't like my taste in lingerie, lol Nope, I still have no idea what you are talking about. Are you saying you're ignore or vilified on the forums? Yes completely as if we haven't even posted. I've been here for over eight years and post often, I'm mostly ignored, not quoted and have been vilified on many occasions. I'm not part of any group but I do know a few forumites from way back and guess what, it happens to more people than you think. Nobody owes you anything. Wasn't saying that we deserve anything, just manners but the few hold the reigns. Feels like being on a golf course. Dickheads in stupid jumpers springs to mind You are coming across in a very negative way. No not negative It's called having a sense of humour or an opinion Whoops how dare we, lol " Your reply is very common on the forums in response to poster/s making comments on how you are possibly perceived based on your own contributions. Suddenly blaming it on a sense of humour that obviously want there first doesn't usually work. Are you getting enough attention yet? | |||
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"You have no chance on here, the select few seem to run the place ruining it for us who are new to the site and scene, bit like some of the clubs. Good luck x Is this for real? Completely real, just what we are experiencing on here to date, ignored all the time. " I'm sorry you feel that a select few are ruining for those who are new to the site. I don't feel you are correct on that. But if you are, it's totally passed me by. When we were new a couple of years ago, even though we were clueless, we found we were very much welcomed at parties. 2 years and a half years on we have a few reliable friends (mixture of men, women and couples), but new couples are always welcomed. There is certainly no clique making the swing scene an unwelcoming place for newcomers (well not at the clubs and parties we attend). You have some stunning pictures, and I can't believe you're short of offers on Fab - we'd certainly be happy to chat to you if we met at a club (although I'm sure we wouldn't stand a chance) Mrs | |||
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"I have done everything know to man on this site in the way of showing manners and being polite towards people. Cant for once i get some back. Or is it just that you need to be a bad boy on here to get somewhere. Because being nice sure dont pay one little bit. You have no chance on here, the select few seem to run the place ruining it for us who are new to the site and scene, bit like some of the clubs. Good luck x " Definitely a clique that goes on here on fab iv experienced and seen it. Not nice for newbies getting ripped to shreds on forums ect... But that's life I guess and you just got to try find the ones that are right for you. Or if you can't beat them join them lol (truth hurts) | |||
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"I have done everything know to man on this site in the way of showing manners and being polite towards people. Cant for once i get some back. Or is it just that you need to be a bad boy on here to get somewhere. Because being nice sure dont pay one little bit. You have no chance on here, the select few seem to run the place ruining it for us who are new to the site and scene, bit like some of the clubs. Good luck x Definitely a clique that goes on here on fab iv experienced and seen it. Not nice for newbies getting ripped to shreds on forums ect... But that's life I guess and you just got to try find the ones that are right for you. Or if you can't beat them join them lol (truth hurts) " The forum isn't reflective of Fab though, and thevforum certainly isn't the swing scene. I've witness a lot of unpleasantness on the forums, which I find quite a contrast to the relaxed atmosphere of a swing club. Mrs | |||
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"I don't message for the simple reason that I'm aware of how many emails women get on here. I don't like to think I'm adding to the annoyance. Obviously it means I don't really get meets but I'm not desperate (most of the time ) so it doesn't bother me. I know I'm nice and respectful and I'm happy to wait for a message. That way the lady has the choice and I'm happy to chat from there. Just keep true to yourself and things may or may not change but at least you had fun trying " You're not the only one, wish more would realise this. Everyone would be happier. | |||
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"I don't message for the simple reason that I'm aware of how many emails women get on here. I don't like to think I'm adding to the annoyance. Obviously it means I don't really get meets but I'm not desperate (most of the time ) so it doesn't bother me. I know I'm nice and respectful and I'm happy to wait for a message. That way the lady has the choice and I'm happy to chat from there. Just keep true to yourself and things may or may not change but at least you had fun trying You're not the only one, wish more would realise this. Everyone would be happier." | |||
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"Snap ! I think the bad boy persona is the way of fabswingers. " I disagree. I speak to women on here that say they are fed up with rude abusive men. It gives the other single guys a bad name with a stigma attached. | |||
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"Snap ! I think the bad boy persona is the way of fabswingers. I disagree. I speak to women on here that say they are fed up with rude abusive men. It gives the other single guys a bad name with a stigma attached. " I must be lucky as chat to nice people like the op here .. I cant be doing with nasty rude people .. life is far to short for that crap and do nothing for me at all.. I like a really bad boy in bed who don't hold back .. x | |||
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"See a profile you like. Send a message tailored around humour and how you fit in with their needs. Once sent delete it from sent items. Then forget about it. Works for me. I'm not a verifications seeker and I get on just fine. " That's all well and good but those who have nothing on their own profiles and mainly cock pics will still struggle to get a reply as so many of us read a profile without opening a message, if that's doesn't appeal message deleted with even going into. | |||
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"if 'bad boy' means crude,disrespectful messages from some asshole who thinks he's gods gift, then no, don't really respond well to bad boys...but as well, i dont respond to profiles that dont say much either..don't mean that to sound rude but maybe consider that a lot of women read profiles before even looking at a profile" Neither do I take kindly to idiots who think they are bad boys and that this strategy will get them anywhere with me - Mrs. J - | |||
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"Listen OP you aint done nowt wrong there's nowt wrong with your profile mate and ill explain why below. simple fact is you're a bloke and that is the only thing we're doing wrong which we can not help. The majority of women on here make me laff that they don't see the bigger picture which yes i am going to explain and rant about. We all know women love to give their opinions on everything and especially subjects like these. The fact is they 'think' they have the answers as to why we don't get replies because they have done a,b,c on their profiles and get lots of msgs. Whilst I respect and prefer a woman who's made an effort they don't have to do jack shit on here to get messages. Even the worst looking mingers who write horrid profiles get hundreds of messages. Yes a great profile will help a woman get more replies but the fact remains they get hundereds already with a blank profile and no pics not even a profile pic. How do I know this? Because I've created several fake profiles as a woman to test this and get the heads up on what kind of msg most men send. I've also seen many reports on the same kinds of experiments and they all conclude the same. Yes this is cheeky but also shows creative thinking and pro active initiative. Has it helped me? Nope and the reason is simple its a womans world with regard to sex. A lot of women will say throw away comments like men are desperate, men only think about sex, men are only after one thing yet they fail to look deeper into the reasons why. Look on this entire website who generally has more veris women or men? The answer is women. On average a lot more. How many women create topics on the forum like these asking why they get no msgs? the answer is not many in fact i personally haven't seen a single one. So in general women on average have lots more sex than men and are much 'dirtier' than men yet they say the stupid outdated things above. Men have to be always take a chance with a woman when they can get because on average it doesn't come around often that's why women have the deluded opinions that men are only after one thing and they only think about sex. This is an illusion ladies. One of the biggest powers if not the biggest is sex. It's what life is about and simple fact is women have the monopoly with sexual power. That's why the digital world of the dating game is really only all joy if you're a woman. They have their pick and if they think to themselves hmm I quite fancy a bit tonight they know they can get it. This simply isn't the case for men. Yes woman may not get to have sex with their dream guy but simple fact is they will have many many options to choose as close to their dream guy as possible out of the hundereds of us chancers. Fact is if they want sex that night just off the cusp there's a very likely chance they will get it. Men in general don't have this luxury. Some of the hottest guys on here with great bods great dicks and great profiles still have little to no veris and Its not from the lack of effort. Its simply a game of chance and luck for men a game of numbers. Most guys on here who've met with women have had to put a hell of a lot of time and effort to get that meet believe me. Women simply don't have to. They may choose to spend a lot of time on here but trust me its more of a joy for you than it is for us guys. Women stop complaining that you are unfulfilled sexually. Try being a guy. Most women who say that are the same women who simply lay on their back and put zero effort in. The guys always to blame with these types of women yet he is the only one whos spent the whole night trying to impress you treating you amazing and going that extra mile and you can't be arsed to try and make the sex good yourself too yet have the audacity to blame the guy for shit sex out of some obnoxious belief of self entitlement to amazing sex just because they're female. I can't fuckin stand women who say things like you must wine and dine me and treat me like a princess. In my eyes men should not be treated like princes either as thats double standards im simply saying we are both human and should both respect and treat others equally. some women of todays generation dont realise how good they have it compared to us men and they wonder why men appear moany. Today woman have equal rights which is right but some still want you to pay for everything. They want both worlds as and when it suits them which is unfair. Women do you realise how many women will chat to a man for days only to suddenly delete msg block or not continue the conversation for no good reason despite a seemingly great conversation for days. No thank you for your time compliments and lovely words to me but i am discontinuing our communication because a,b,c oh no they simply give no reason they have simply decided they got bored because you have a quirky tie or shirt or some other swallow excuse but in reality there attention went else where because they have their pick from hundereds. Women don't see this bigger picture about why men feel the way they do. We aint simply just moaning we really do have it tough today and get treated terribly. Women simply have too much power. That sounds sexist but it's not. Women have always had sexual power so a few generations back when women where more controlled by men it ment men didn't get treated badly and ironically everything was fairer. Now though with the sexual revolution and equal rights men really do get a terrible time because women have gone too far and run riot they have no respect any more far a nice gentleman. They will take him for a ride and cast him aside for the next guy once they have gotten whatever it is they wanted be it drinks money a lift or a rung up the social ladder. They will abuse mens good faith. Women your sex lifes are great stop complaining and try to just be a bit more considerate and rationalize the bigger picture" that's bollocks! doesnt really matter if women get more messages if they're pointless, irrelevant, inappropriate ones..and if you think for one minute that the sexual revolution has changed this, on sites like this, it may seem like that, but here, and in life in general,very little has changed..a lot of the women on here feel, and are, much more in control of their sex lives...but just because there is an imbalance of male to female, doesnt mean that women have suddenly got access to a huge amount of desirable men...there are very desirable men on here, articulate, intelligent and not either afraid, or contemptuous of, strong,self confident women..but they are still, in my opinion, in a small, but very noticeable minority. | |||
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"Listen OP you aint done nowt wrong there's nowt wrong with your profile mate and ill explain why below. simple fact is you're a bloke and that is the only thing we're doing wrong which we can not help. The majority of women on here make me laff that they don't see the bigger picture which yes i am going to explain and rant about. We all know women love to give their opinions on everything and especially subjects like these. The fact is they 'think' they have the answers as to why we don't get replies because they have done a,b,c on their profiles and get lots of msgs. Whilst I respect and prefer a woman who's made an effort they don't have to do jack shit on here to get messages. Even the worst looking mingers who write horrid profiles get hundreds of messages. Yes a great profile will help a woman get more replies but the fact remains they get hundereds already with a blank profile and no pics not even a profile pic. How do I know this? Because I've created several fake profiles as a woman to test this and get the heads up on what kind of msg most men send. I've also seen many reports on the same kinds of experiments and they all conclude the same. Yes this is cheeky but also shows creative thinking and pro active initiative. Has it helped me? Nope and the reason is simple its a womans world with regard to sex. A lot of women will say throw away comments like men are desperate, men only think about sex, men are only after one thing yet they fail to look deeper into the reasons why. Look on this entire website who generally has more veris women or men? The answer is women. On average a lot more. How many women create topics on the forum like these asking why they get no msgs? the answer is not many in fact i personally haven't seen a single one. So in general women on average have lots more sex than men and are much 'dirtier' than men yet they say the stupid outdated things above. Men have to be always take a chance with a woman when they can get because on average it doesn't come around often that's why women have the deluded opinions that men are only after one thing and they only think about sex. This is an illusion ladies. One of the biggest powers if not the biggest is sex. It's what life is about and simple fact is women have the monopoly with sexual power. That's why the digital world of the dating game is really only all joy if you're a woman. They have their pick and if they think to themselves hmm I quite fancy a bit tonight they know they can get it. This simply isn't the case for men. Yes woman may not get to have sex with their dream guy but simple fact is they will have many many options to choose as close to their dream guy as possible out of the hundereds of us chancers. Fact is if they want sex that night just off the cusp there's a very likely chance they will get it. Men in general don't have this luxury. Some of the hottest guys on here with great bods great dicks and great profiles still have little to no veris and Its not from the lack of effort. Its simply a game of chance and luck for men a game of numbers. Most guys on here who've met with women have had to put a hell of a lot of time and effort to get that meet believe me. Women simply don't have to. They may choose to spend a lot of time on here but trust me its more of a joy for you than it is for us guys. Women stop complaining that you are unfulfilled sexually. Try being a guy. Most women who say that are the same women who simply lay on their back and put zero effort in. The guys always to blame with these types of women yet he is the only one whos spent the whole night trying to impress you treating you amazing and going that extra mile and you can't be arsed to try and make the sex good yourself too yet have the audacity to blame the guy for shit sex out of some obnoxious belief of self entitlement to amazing sex just because they're female. I can't fuckin stand women who say things like you must wine and dine me and treat me like a princess. In my eyes men should not be treated like princes either as thats double standards im simply saying we are both human and should both respect and treat others equally. some women of todays generation dont realise how good they have it compared to us men and they wonder why men appear moany. Today woman have equal rights which is right but some still want you to pay for everything. They want both worlds as and when it suits them which is unfair. Women do you realise how many women will chat to a man for days only to suddenly delete msg block or not continue the conversation for no good reason despite a seemingly great conversation for days. No thank you for your time compliments and lovely words to me but i am discontinuing our communication because a,b,c oh no they simply give no reason they have simply decided they got bored because you have a quirky tie or shirt or some other swallow excuse but in reality there attention went else where because they have their pick from hundereds. Women don't see this bigger picture about why men feel the way they do. We aint simply just moaning we really do have it tough today and get treated terribly. Women simply have too much power. That sounds sexist but it's not. Women have always had sexual power so a few generations back when women where more controlled by men it ment men didn't get treated badly and ironically everything was fairer. Now though with the sexual revolution and equal rights men really do get a terrible time because women have gone too far and run riot they have no respect any more far a nice gentleman. They will take him for a ride and cast him aside for the next guy once they have gotten whatever it is they wanted be it drinks money a lift or a rung up the social ladder. They will abuse mens good faith. Women your sex lifes are great stop complaining and try to just be a bit more considerate and rationalize the bigger picture that's bollocks! doesnt really matter if women get more messages if they're pointless, irrelevant, inappropriate ones..and if you think for one minute that the sexual revolution has changed this, on sites like this, it may seem like that, but here, and in life in general,very little has changed..a lot of the women on here feel, and are, much more in control of their sex lives...but just because there is an imbalance of male to female, doesnt mean that women have suddenly got access to a huge amount of desirable men...there are very desirable men on here, articulate, intelligent and not either afraid, or contemptuous of, strong,self confident women..but they are still, in my opinion, in a small, but very noticeable minority." I'm with you on this | |||
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"just because there is an imbalance of male to female, doesnt mean that women have suddenly got access to a huge amount of desirable men" Who said they did? Did i use the word desirable? No i never . I said they can choose the best closest match to what they are looking for. And if i was the woman of course id do the same but id be more mindful and respectful about the awful time men have. im trying to get the point accross that many women are quick to judge a guys profile of not workning because of a b and c when in fact its simply because women have a lot of choice that its just a game of numbers and luck for men and thats why they don't in general get messages not because of their profile being poor | |||
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"It's called having a sense of humour or an opinion Whoops how dare we, lol Your reply is very common on the forums in response to poster/s making comments on how you are possibly perceived based on your own contributions. Suddenly blaming it on a sense of humour that obviously want there first doesn't usually work. Are you getting enough attention yet? The forums works like this - happy positive people enjoy them no matter what happens. Negative, self important people whine about not being seen/heard. Negative people are ignored by the happy people, because negativity is not fun or sexy. It's that simple " And exactly this too x this site used to get me down x no messages no nothing x changed my attitude on here x now getting over 20 looks a day from couples x chat and befriended lots of new people x don't mean I'm going to meet them x but it's nice to have them as friends x don't hassle them with messages everyday which I've been told they prefer | |||
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"just because there is an imbalance of male to female, doesnt mean that women have suddenly got access to a huge amount of desirable men Who said they did? Did i use the word desirable? No i never . I said they can choose the best closest match to what they are looking for. And if i was the woman of course id do the same but id be more mindful and respectful about the awful time men have. im trying to get the point accross that many women are quick to judge a guys profile of not workning because of a b and c when in fact its simply because women have a lot of choice that its just a game of numbers and luck for men and thats why they don't in general get messages not because of their profile being poor" I have a shitty profile but I got a lotta friends I chat too | |||
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"just because there is an imbalance of male to female, doesnt mean that women have suddenly got access to a huge amount of desirable men Who said they did? Did i use the word desirable? No i never . I said they can choose the best closest match to what they are looking for. And if i was the woman of course id do the same but id be more mindful and respectful about the awful time men have. im trying to get the point accross that many women are quick to judge a guys profile of not workning because of a b and c when in fact its simply because women have a lot of choice that its just a game of numbers and luck for men and thats why they don't in general get messages not because of their profile being poor" no, they don't get messages because, on the whole, their profiles and messages are lazy, often insulting, and shit...the volume of 'choice' is completely redundant if that 'choice' is in the main, as the above. | |||
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"I have a shitty profile but I got a lotta friends I chat too " Exactlty so its just a game of numbers and luck as i stated. You say you have a shitty profile so it's obviously nothing to do with your profile.Thanks you prooved my point wether you meant it or not. | |||
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"I have a shitty profile but I got a lotta friends I chat too Exactlty so its just a game of numbers and luck as i stated. You say you have a shitty profile so it's obviously nothing to do with your profile.Thanks you prooved my point wether you meant it or not. " i think his profile is ok though, friendly and not selfish, got a pic so we have an idea what he looks like. not mentioned what he is after on here but he has his interests listed so doesn't need to. | |||
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"I have a shitty profile but I got a lotta friends I chat too Exactlty so its just a game of numbers and luck as i stated. You say you have a shitty profile so it's obviously nothing to do with your profile.Thanks you prooved my point wether you meant it or not. " well it doesn't prove your point at all...his profile is well written ,humourous, and engaging..if i got a message from him i'd reply to it!.. | |||
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"It's called having a sense of humour or an opinion Whoops how dare we, lol Your reply is very common on the forums in response to poster/s making comments on how you are possibly perceived based on your own contributions. Suddenly blaming it on a sense of humour that obviously want there first doesn't usually work. Are you getting enough attention yet? The forums works like this - happy positive people enjoy them no matter what happens. Negative, self important people whine about not being seen/heard. Negative people are ignored by the happy people, because negativity is not fun or sexy. It's that simple " You know that's not the truth! Having read some recent threads from newbies over the past few days, the select or chosen few take their pleasure from being sarcastic and misguiding. Traits we would never choose in anyone we would want to meet. How is that perceived to be fun for anyone let alone single guys. One thing for sure the few in question will never meet us. | |||
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"I have done everything know to man on this site in the way of showing manners and being polite towards people. Cant for once i get some back. Or is it just that you need to be a bad boy on here to get somewhere. Because being nice sure dont pay one little bit. " well sad you not getting much luck with this.we meet all kinds because as a one of situation with strangers you do not know whoes coming at ya .look at our verries and you will see some we meet many times .we now class as friends.WHY?coz they nice polite easy to talk to none pushy .so hang on in there . | |||
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"It's called having a sense of humour or an opinion Whoops how dare we, lol Your reply is very common on the forums in response to poster/s making comments on how you are possibly perceived based on your own contributions. Suddenly blaming it on a sense of humour that obviously want there first doesn't usually work. Are you getting enough attention yet? The forums works like this - happy positive people enjoy them no matter what happens. Negative, self important people whine about not being seen/heard. Negative people are ignored by the happy people, because negativity is not fun or sexy. It's that simple You know that's not the truth! Having read some recent threads from newbies over the past few days, the select or chosen few take their pleasure from being sarcastic and misguiding. Traits we would never choose in anyone we would want to meet. How is that perceived to be fun for anyone let alone single guys. One thing for sure the few in question will never meet us." But surely you wouldn't want to meet those people either? Those people, who are not very nice on the forums, we don't spend one minute worrying about whether they would meet us, because we don't want to meet them. As I said before, judging by your profile, you guys should have no difficulty finding nice people to meet. This 'select few' are irrelevant to your search. Mrs | |||
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"I get offers from women and couples all the time...... Can you see where you're going wrong now? Are you saying he should consider becoming a TV/TS...? " | |||
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"See i just wrote a lovely message to a lady. To find out she bulk delete a load of messages and mine was in there. What is the point in being nice on here and writing a lovely message if that happens please tell me " She's free to use fab how she wants and if bulk deletes are her way of handling excessive messages then so be it. Throwing your toys out of the pram and acting childish is your problem not hers. | |||
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"Red Carpet? Who said we expected or want one of those, surely manners cost nothing. Rest our case..lol Who is being rude to you then? Ignorance, we can see why so many moan about no meets , far to much to type to explain but we get it now. We will just continue being ourselves and hopefully find some likeminded people, who aren't negative too. You're still not making any sense. Who is being ignorant to you? Read the forums where we have posted and you will see for yourself It's so obvious to see Perhaps they don't like my taste in lingerie, lol Nope, I still have no idea what you are talking about. Are you saying you're ignore or vilified on the forums? Yes completely as if we haven't even posted." I often think about responding to your posts, but I don't want to get into an argument. I suspect others feel the same. | |||
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"I have a shitty profile but I got a lotta friends I chat too Exactlty so its just a game of numbers and luck as i stated. You say you have a shitty profile so it's obviously nothing to do with your profile.Thanks you prooved my point wether you meant it or not. well it doesn't prove your point at all...his profile is well written ,humourous, and engaging..if i got a message from him i'd reply to it!.." Hey that's fair enough then i guess he was being modest because i was going off what he said about his own profile. I wasn't saying it was shitty he did | |||
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"I totally hear you mate. I'm totally ignored on here. I'm a happy go lucky guy who's very respectful but having no luck at all " well we never look at single guy profiles as the first move.but do look after they have messaged us first.as our profile says we happy that guys take time to look .but it is impossible to take further to a meet just a numbers game.far to many. | |||
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"I have a new theory. The only REAL people on here can be found in the forums. With the odd exception the rest are BOTS. There are lots of signs that give them away. This is why your messages don't get replys. Literally pot luck if you find real live people. Keep you looking equals keep you paying " What are you on about? Nobody has to pay anything. It is a free site And lots of us meet lots of people, all the time Nobody wants to meet a moaner and a whinger - Mrs. J - | |||
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"I have a new theory. The only REAL people on here can be found in the forums. With the odd exception the rest are BOTS. There are lots of signs that give them away. This is why your messages don't get replys. Literally pot luck if you find real live people. Keep you looking equals keep you paying What are you on about? Nobody has to pay anything. It is a free site And lots of us meet lots of people, all the time Nobody wants to meet a moaner and a whinger - Mrs. J -" | |||
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"I have a new theory. The only REAL people on here can be found in the forums. With the odd exception the rest are BOTS. There are lots of signs that give them away. This is why your messages don't get replys. Literally pot luck if you find real live people. Keep you looking equals keep you paying What are you on about? Nobody has to pay anything. It is a free site And lots of us meet lots of people, all the time Nobody wants to meet a moaner and a whinger - Mrs. J -" Good on ya | |||
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"It seems that lots of men struggle with the dynamic shift that this place brings.. either that or they come with expectations of queues of women with their knickers already around their ankles eagerly waiting a picture of a cock, one of the two lol. Really, it's not hard.. some will reply, some won't, either way nobody is entitled to anything so don't expect. Other than that, do the best with what you have pics wise, make sure your profile and messages reflect you and not the generic things people expect to see on here and see how it goes, people will either like you or they won't. And that's ok! " | |||
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"This will definitely make you stop feeling like the ladies are not nice in return and you have to be a bad guy ,although ladies love bad guys who don't care and are players. You don't have to be rude to be a bad guy, but the trick is the bad guys keep the ladies reaching for their attention and that's why the ladies love them, however strange that might be to us because the ladies have to be on top of their game to keep these bad guys, one blink and another girl has snatched these guys cause the guys keep them reaching for something." That is exactly what a 'bad guy' is and so true. I am sucker for a charmer who'll say the right thing at the right time, then just when I'm ensnared, keeps that oh so slight distance to make me chase for more. Mrs | |||
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"I understand that feeling and yes it is valid and true, you have to understand , the ladies meet through the site but they mostly meet at parties and clubs . On the site I think the majority just want attention, it makes them feel good,don't get me wrong I have meets directly off the site but just imagine 300 women a day messaging you,saying you are fantastic and they want to fuck you and you can pick as you please from that group, that is a super star feeling, so you can't blame the ladies because they can get 300 guys a day hitting on them even if their profile has no single picture.Also most times when the ladies agree to meet, the guys will not turn up and waste their time. Plus some of the ladies want companionship , most guys just want fun, this is another problem, I will suggest you join a party group with a theme you like and make friends there face to face , you will get plenty of meets there , then use fabs to organise meets outside the party with people you have already met at the social or party , this definitely works and will change the game for you. I know us guys can understand meeting off the site because we think logically but it is hard for a lot of ladies because they think emotionally and you have to strike that bond or friendship with a lady first no matter how short." 300 guys a day 'hitting' on me does not make me feel like a superstar. Most of those messages are full of objectification, misogyny and self entitlement and I don't want any of that attention. Wading through that lot to find the one bloke that sends a normal message and has a profile worth looking at is tedious and tiresome. How did you find out that most women meet at parties and clubs! | |||
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"This will definitely make you stop feeling like the ladies are not nice in return and you have to be a bad guy ,although ladies love bad guys who don't care and are players. You don't have to be rude to be a bad guy, but the trick is the bad guys keep the ladies reaching for their attention and that's why the ladies love them, however strange that might be to us because the ladies have to be on top of their game to keep these bad guys, one blink and another girl has snatched these guys cause the guys keep them reaching for something." Complete utter bollocks. I've no interest in anyone who's a) not nice and b) anyone who's not interested in me. I think this is something unsuccessful guys make up in their head to feel better about themselves to be honest. | |||
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"This will definitely make you stop feeling like the ladies are not nice in return and you have to be a bad guy ,although ladies love bad guys who don't care and are players. You don't have to be rude to be a bad guy, but the trick is the bad guys keep the ladies reaching for their attention and that's why the ladies love them, however strange that might be to us because the ladies have to be on top of their game to keep these bad guys, one blink and another girl has snatched these guys cause the guys keep them reaching for something. Complete utter bollocks. I've no interest in anyone who's a) not nice and b) anyone who's not interested in me. I think this is something unsuccessful guys make up in their head to feel better about themselves to be honest." It might not work on you, but it does seem to work on some women? | |||
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"I have done everything know to man on this site in the way of showing manners and being polite towards people. Cant for once i get some back. Or is it just that you need to be a bad boy on here to get somewhere. Because being nice sure dont pay one little bit. " this site forum, isn't the 'real world' if you go out to socials and clubs you wont get on unless you have a nice personality..so, go enjoy the benefits of you having such, that's where it really matters x | |||
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"This will definitely make you stop feeling like the ladies are not nice in return and you have to be a bad guy ,although ladies love bad guys who don't care and are players. You don't have to be rude to be a bad guy, but the trick is the bad guys keep the ladies reaching for their attention and that's why the ladies love them, however strange that might be to us because the ladies have to be on top of their game to keep these bad guys, one blink and another girl has snatched these guys cause the guys keep them reaching for something. Complete utter bollocks. I've no interest in anyone who's a) not nice and b) anyone who's not interested in me. I think this is something unsuccessful guys make up in their head to feel better about themselves to be honest." Well you might feel so but at least two ladies have backed me up on this point, a bad guy is no ordinary guy, he is complete in every form , he is a success to start with,he makes the ladies go wet by his perfume alone, the funny thing is he does not care, his dress sense is complete, if he is fucking you in a club you find other ladies waiting by the door to get him after you, he is not thirsty for pussy at all, one blink and other ladies have taken him off your hands . This is what ladies want because he keeps them reaching for his attention. This is the kind of guy I continue working hard to be, getting sharper and sharper and reaching for perfection. | |||
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"This will definitely make you stop feeling like the ladies are not nice in return and you have to be a bad guy ,although ladies love bad guys who don't care and are players. You don't have to be rude to be a bad guy, but the trick is the bad guys keep the ladies reaching for their attention and that's why the ladies love them, however strange that might be to us because the ladies have to be on top of their game to keep these bad guys, one blink and another girl has snatched these guys cause the guys keep them reaching for something. Complete utter bollocks. I've no interest in anyone who's a) not nice and b) anyone who's not interested in me. I think this is something unsuccessful guys make up in their head to feel better about themselves to be honest. Well you might feel so but at least two ladies have backed me up on this point, a bad guy is no ordinary guy, he is complete in every form , he is a success to start with,he makes the ladies go wet by his perfume alone, the funny thing is he does not care, his dress sense is complete, if he is fucking you in a club you find other ladies waiting by the door to get him after you, he is not thirsty for pussy at all, one blink and other ladies have taken him off your hands . This is what ladies want because he keeps them reaching for his attention. This is the kind of guy I continue working hard to be, getting sharper and sharper and reaching for perfection. " You should write stories for a living. I think you'll find many more women that don't agree with this. Sounds like it's more a fantasy in your head than most of ours? | |||
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"Listen OP you aint done nowt wrong there's nowt wrong with your profile mate and ill explain why below. simple fact is you're a bloke and that is the only thing we're doing wrong which we can not help. The majority of women on here make me laff that they don't see the bigger picture which yes i am going to explain and rant about. We all know women love to give their opinions on everything and especially subjects like these. The fact is they 'think' they have the answers as to why we don't get replies because they have done a,b,c on their profiles and get lots of msgs. Whilst I respect and prefer a woman who's made an effort they don't have to do jack shit on here to get messages. Even the worst looking mingers who write horrid profiles get hundreds of messages. Yes a great profile will help a woman get more replies but the fact remains they get hundereds already with a blank profile and no pics not even a profile pic. How do I know this? Because I've created several fake profiles as a woman to test this and get the heads up on what kind of msg most men send. I've also seen many reports on the same kinds of experiments and they all conclude the same. Yes this is cheeky but also shows creative thinking and pro active initiative. Has it helped me? Nope and the reason is simple its a womans world with regard to sex. A lot of women will say throw away comments like men are desperate, men only think about sex, men are only after one thing yet they fail to look deeper into the reasons why. Look on this entire website who generally has more veris women or men? The answer is women. On average a lot more. How many women create topics on the forum like these asking why they get no msgs? the answer is not many in fact i personally haven't seen a single one. So in general women on average have lots more sex than men and are much 'dirtier' than men yet they say the stupid outdated things above. Men have to be always take a chance with a woman when they can get because on average it doesn't come around often that's why women have the deluded opinions that men are only after one thing and they only think about sex. This is an illusion ladies. One of the biggest powers if not the biggest is sex. It's what life is about and simple fact is women have the monopoly with sexual power. That's why the digital world of the dating game is really only all joy if you're a woman. They have their pick and if they think to themselves hmm I quite fancy a bit tonight they know they can get it. This simply isn't the case for men. Yes woman may not get to have sex with their dream guy but simple fact is they will have many many options to choose as close to their dream guy as possible out of the hundereds of us chancers. Fact is if they want sex that night just off the cusp there's a very likely chance they will get it. Men in general don't have this luxury. Some of the hottest guys on here with great bods great dicks and great profiles still have little to no veris and Its not from the lack of effort. Its simply a game of chance and luck for men a game of numbers. Most guys on here who've met with women have had to put a hell of a lot of time and effort to get that meet believe me. Women simply don't have to. They may choose to spend a lot of time on here but trust me its more of a joy for you than it is for us guys. Women stop complaining that you are unfulfilled sexually. Try being a guy. Most women who say that are the same women who simply lay on their back and put zero effort in. The guys always to blame with these types of women yet he is the only one whos spent the whole night trying to impress you treating you amazing and going that extra mile and you can't be arsed to try and make the sex good yourself too yet have the audacity to blame the guy for shit sex out of some obnoxious belief of self entitlement to amazing sex just because they're female. I can't fuckin stand women who say things like you must wine and dine me and treat me like a princess. In my eyes men should not be treated like princes either as thats double standards im simply saying we are both human and should both respect and treat others equally. some women of todays generation dont realise how good they have it compared to us men and they wonder why men appear moany. Today woman have equal rights which is right but some still want you to pay for everything. They want both worlds as and when it suits them which is unfair. Women do you realise how many women will chat to a man for days only to suddenly delete msg block or not continue the conversation for no good reason despite a seemingly great conversation for days. No thank you for your time compliments and lovely words to me but i am discontinuing our communication because a,b,c oh no they simply give no reason they have simply decided they got bored because you have a quirky tie or shirt or some other swallow excuse but in reality there attention went else where because they have their pick from hundereds. Women don't see this bigger picture about why men feel the way they do. We aint simply just moaning we really do have it tough today and get treated terribly. Women simply have too much power. That sounds sexist but it's not. Women have always had sexual power so a few generations back when women where more controlled by men it ment men didn't get treated badly and ironically everything was fairer. Now though with the sexual revolution and equal rights men really do get a terrible time because women have gone too far and run riot they have no respect any more far a nice gentleman. They will take him for a ride and cast him aside for the next guy once they have gotten whatever it is they wanted be it drinks money a lift or a rung up the social ladder. They will abuse mens good faith. Women your sex lifes are great stop complaining and try to just be a bit more considerate and rationalize the bigger picture" got up to where you were saying men dont get the chance often enough for sex so we hold all the cards or somit along those lines then stopped reading never heard so much bull shit in all my life u clearly dont have a clue | |||
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"This will definitely make you stop feeling like the ladies are not nice in return and you have to be a bad guy ,although ladies love bad guys who don't care and are players. You don't have to be rude to be a bad guy, but the trick is the bad guys keep the ladies reaching for their attention and that's why the ladies love them, however strange that might be to us because the ladies have to be on top of their game to keep these bad guys, one blink and another girl has snatched these guys cause the guys keep them reaching for something. Complete utter bollocks. I've no interest in anyone who's a) not nice and b) anyone who's not interested in me. I think this is something unsuccessful guys make up in their head to feel better about themselves to be honest. Well you might feel so but at least two ladies have backed me up on this point, a bad guy is no ordinary guy, he is complete in every form , he is a success to start with,he makes the ladies go wet by his perfume alone, the funny thing is he does not care, his dress sense is complete, if he is fucking you in a club you find other ladies waiting by the door to get him after you, he is not thirsty for pussy at all, one blink and other ladies have taken him off your hands . This is what ladies want because he keeps them reaching for his attention. This is the kind of guy I continue working hard to be, getting sharper and sharper and reaching for perfection. " So you take the words of two ladies as the gospel? Lol. My mum and gran both say I'm handsome. It must be true. Interesting read though (the whole thread). That some people will obviously try to change the way they naturally are to get pussy. | |||
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"This will definitely make you stop feeling like the ladies are not nice in return and you have to be a bad guy ,although ladies love bad guys who don't care and are players. You don't have to be rude to be a bad guy, but the trick is the bad guys keep the ladies reaching for their attention and that's why the ladies love them, however strange that might be to us because the ladies have to be on top of their game to keep these bad guys, one blink and another girl has snatched these guys cause the guys keep them reaching for something. Complete utter bollocks. I've no interest in anyone who's a) not nice and b) anyone who's not interested in me. I think this is something unsuccessful guys make up in their head to feel better about themselves to be honest. Well you might feel so but at least two ladies have backed me up on this point, a bad guy is no ordinary guy, he is complete in every form , he is a success to start with,he makes the ladies go wet by his perfume alone, the funny thing is he does not care, his dress sense is complete, if he is fucking you in a club you find other ladies waiting by the door to get him after you, he is not thirsty for pussy at all, one blink and other ladies have taken him off your hands . This is what ladies want because he keeps them reaching for his attention. This is the kind of guy I continue working hard to be, getting sharper and sharper and reaching for perfection. So you take the words of two ladies as the gospel? Lol. My mum and gran both say I'm handsome. It must be true. Interesting read though (the whole thread). That some people will obviously try to change the way they naturally are to get pussy. " Well the choice is yours as a man, on which side of the coin do you want to be? Chasing women? Or women chasing you? Look at the whole of fabs and what do you see ? Well if you must really enjoy yourself as a man then the women will have to chase you, for quality women to chase you, you must separate yourself from everyday men and must not be moved by a womans sexuality, only special guys can attain this position and it requires skills, either you learn how to stand up or you must join the multitude of men who are doing the chasing by default. What is true to your mind becomes your reality, I believe women are to chase me and this is my reality, therefore when I turn up at any function, the women can see the difference. | |||
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"This will definitely make you stop feeling like the ladies are not nice in return and you have to be a bad guy ,although ladies love bad guys who don't care and are players. You don't have to be rude to be a bad guy, but the trick is the bad guys keep the ladies reaching for their attention and that's why the ladies love them, however strange that might be to us because the ladies have to be on top of their game to keep these bad guys, one blink and another girl has snatched these guys cause the guys keep them reaching for something. Complete utter bollocks. I've no interest in anyone who's a) not nice and b) anyone who's not interested in me. I think this is something unsuccessful guys make up in their head to feel better about themselves to be honest. Well you might feel so but at least two ladies have backed me up on this point, a bad guy is no ordinary guy, he is complete in every form , he is a success to start with,he makes the ladies go wet by his perfume alone, the funny thing is he does not care, his dress sense is complete, if he is fucking you in a club you find other ladies waiting by the door to get him after you, he is not thirsty for pussy at all, one blink and other ladies have taken him off your hands . This is what ladies want because he keeps them reaching for his attention. This is the kind of guy I continue working hard to be, getting sharper and sharper and reaching for perfection. You should write stories for a living. I think you'll find many more women that don't agree with this. Sounds like it's more a fantasy in your head than most of ours? " I am not really bothered if women agree with it or not, obviously only women who speak truth from the heart agree with it because this describes who a real man is, right from when I was young up till now I have seen women struggle for men like this, fighting for their attention because obviously, women want what they can't have. | |||
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"James. With that type of talk. Even I fancy the ass off you. You make me swoon. your enjoying a certain type of women. That's all. I suppose if you wanted to attract another type of women who doesn't like 'bad boys' you'd change and act differently for her too. Sound like lots of effort to me. I'll just carry on being myself. " My man, that's cool, I remember a swingers party we attended and a girl came up to me and my friend, she asked to play with us and take us home,the party was filled with up to 70 guys, she was really beautiful but we said no, believe me I have never seen a chic so upset, that move made us chic magnets because as I said,ladies want what they can't have. We only did that to turn the attention of the other beautiful ladies our way, if they can't have you they want you . | |||
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