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"Ask the Townhouse, they are normally very helpful and informative in answering peoples queries about opening a club, and as they are in your area they know more about local councils etc." | |||
"This one is more for the club owners and party planners among you all. Can anybody explain in detail what is required to start a club? Legal and licensing stuff/costs? What type of venue do you look for? Set up costs? Running costs? I'm talking ballpark figures here guys, no need to dish out specifics about your business. Also, do the party planners amongst you cover your own costs, or do you all make a loss? " That's an interesting question. | |||
"This one is more for the club owners and party planners among you all. Can anybody explain in detail what is required to start a club? Legal and licensing stuff/costs? What type of venue do you look for? Set up costs? Running costs? I'm talking ballpark figures here guys, no need to dish out specifics about your business. Also, do the party planners amongst you cover your own costs, or do you all make a loss? " If you really have to ask the above questions we would wonder whether you have what it takes to set-up and run a club. We do not mean that in an insulting way but the setting up of a business (of any type) requires a person who can think on their feet and solve problems quickly and to require help with such basic questions puts you at an immediate disadvantage. Sorry! | |||
"This one is more for the club owners and party planners among you all. Can anybody explain in detail what is required to start a club? Legal and licensing stuff/costs? What type of venue do you look for? Set up costs? Running costs? I'm talking ballpark figures here guys, no need to dish out specifics about your business. Also, do the party planners amongst you cover your own costs, or do you all make a loss? If you really have to ask the above questions we would wonder whether you have what it takes to set-up and run a club. We do not mean that in an insulting way but the setting up of a business (of any type) requires a person who can think on their feet and solve problems quickly and to require help with such basic questions puts you at an immediate disadvantage. Sorry! " Well I was asking in a hypothetical sense. I've not put any serious thought into it at present, so whilst you say you're being respectful, you're also being very presumptuous. Rather than thinking about all this stuff for a while, and then possibly deciding to bite the bullet in future and run in blind, I thought the tactful approach would be to engage the community in a discussion, getting answers from exactly those in the know. I don't know if you run a club yourself, but surely the fact that I've asked even the most basic of questions is a sign that someone is clearly trying to figure out what pitfalls there may be, and not end up a sub par, underfund, disgrace of a club? | |||
"This one is more for the club owners and party planners among you all. Can anybody explain in detail what is required to start a club? Legal and licensing stuff/costs? What type of venue do you look for? Set up costs? Running costs? I'm talking ballpark figures here guys, no need to dish out specifics about your business. Also, do the party planners amongst you cover your own costs, or do you all make a loss? If you really have to ask the above questions we would wonder whether you have what it takes to set-up and run a club. We do not mean that in an insulting way but the setting up of a business (of any type) requires a person who can think on their feet and solve problems quickly and to require help with such basic questions puts you at an immediate disadvantage. Sorry! Well I was asking in a hypothetical sense. I've not put any serious thought into it at present, so whilst you say you're being respectful, you're also being very presumptuous. Rather than thinking about all this stuff for a while, and then possibly deciding to bite the bullet in future and run in blind, I thought the tactful approach would be to engage the community in a discussion, getting answers from exactly those in the know. I don't know if you run a club yourself, but surely the fact that I've asked even the most basic of questions is a sign that someone is clearly trying to figure out what pitfalls there may be, and not end up a sub par, underfund, disgrace of a club?" Two (rhetorical) questions I would ask you are: a) Have you ever run your own or someone else's business? b) Have you ever had to apply for a professional licence (NOT driving) to do a job? Also, I know you're not asking for specifics but some of your questions ARE commercially sensitive. I wouldn't expect a business owner to answer here. Maybe you'll get a PM if someone would be so kind. Now you're going to think this all sounds harsh and it is if you've never gone into running your own business. But this is a walk in the park in comparison to the first few months of trading. The answers to your questions are out there. A lot of it is free, as is some of the help you can receive depending on your personal situation. When you're ready to take the plunge I wish you all the best. | |||
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"This one is more for the club owners and party planners among you all. Can anybody explain in detail what is required to start a club? Legal and licensing stuff/costs? What type of venue do you look for? Set up costs? Running costs? I'm talking ballpark figures here guys, no need to dish out specifics about your business. Also, do the party planners amongst you cover your own costs, or do you all make a loss? If you really have to ask the above questions we would wonder whether you have what it takes to set-up and run a club. We do not mean that in an insulting way but the setting up of a business (of any type) requires a person who can think on their feet and solve problems quickly and to require help with such basic questions puts you at an immediate disadvantage. Sorry! " Seems a very fair set of questions to ask. You may receive different answers from different people. Also the answers will probably vary dependent upon when you are in the country. Certainly will with regard to property costs... | |||
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"Do you have £200.000 spare? and can afford to lose it?" Someone did put on a similar thread a while ago that "if you want to make a small fortune running a swingers club, start with a large fortune". | |||
"This one is more for the club owners and party planners among you all. Can anybody explain in detail what is required to start a club? Legal and licensing stuff/costs? What type of venue do you look for? Set up costs? Running costs? I'm talking ballpark figures here guys, no need to dish out specifics about your business. Also, do the party planners amongst you cover your own costs, or do you all make a loss? " I can't answer much of the club questions but know that a massive amount of hard work goes into running a club and the overheads are giant. It seems to be a love of the lifestyle choice over earnings/profit. I'm a party planner and have done it a few years in different guises. Every now and then you get a very profitable party. Sometimes you don't break even. Profit isn't a motivator for me at all. You do take a risk when you hire a venue, maybe lay on food and entertainment, that you may not even cover your costs. It's actually more challenging to promote a party and get people through the door than people think. I also declare my earnings from hosting/party planning. It's a pet peeve when people don't. It's definitely about the buzz of the party and the customer service that motivates me to do it rather than the earnings. | |||
"Do you have £200.000 spare? and can afford to lose it? Someone did put on a similar thread a while ago that "if you want to make a small fortune running a swingers club, start with a large fortune"." I think one of the hardest decisions for a club is what to do about the gender imbalance in swinging. Are you going to have couple only nights or not? If not, you'll probably make more money short term. If so, i think the club will do better long term. | |||
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"This one is more for the club owners and party planners among you all. Can anybody explain in detail what is required to start a club? Legal and licensing stuff/costs? What type of venue do you look for? Set up costs? Running costs? I'm talking ballpark figures here guys, no need to dish out specifics about your business. Also, do the party planners amongst you cover your own costs, or do you all make a loss? If you really have to ask the above questions we would wonder whether you have what it takes to set-up and run a club. We do not mean that in an insulting way but the setting up of a business (of any type) requires a person who can think on their feet and solve problems quickly and to require help with such basic questions puts you at an immediate disadvantage. Sorry! " When starting any business it's always advisable to ask lots of questions first, even if you already know a lot about whatever trade it is it's possible to learn more. Information | |||
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