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By *layalong OP Couple
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
My so called best friend is obsessed with my husband, and I'm really uneasy with it all. She's waaaayyyy over the top touchy-feely and has said she'd love to have Sex with him. Now I'm at that point of just ignoring her and coming ascross as rude which I am not. But.. I'm supposed to be into swapping so why is this doing my head in so much? |
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over a year ago
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Maybe because she's not a random she's someone he sees all of the time so he could develop feelings from her
She's not talking about a swap she just wants to fuck your husband
She's your best friend and it's highly inappropriate
I'd feel exactly the same
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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago
Northampton Somewhere |
You feel like that because she's your bestie. It's one thing to say she fancies your hubby but another to touch him!
Is she aware you're on here? She might feel her behaviour is ok if she is. If not, I'd be having a quiet word with her. Actually even if she is its clearly making you uncomfortable so I'd have a chat with her anyway |
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Is she a real life friend or a swinger friend?
Yes I know they intermingle, but me and hubby have a no one from our real lives rule about swinging. Random strangers fine, if we become friends with them, still fine. But not someone we know from outside our swinging world. |
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By *layalong OP Couple
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
She's our only real friend who knows what stuff we are into. She's single and mingling with anyone who'll have sex with her. I've felt sick for weeks thinking about her all over him. Maybe I'm being unreasonable for feeling this way. The flirting, the looks, the holding him tight while squeezing past. Yuck |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't think you're being unreasonable at all! Can completely understand why you feel that way!
If she's single and mingling with guys, have you got a note of her number? Lol |
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By *ouble CCouple
over a year ago
Gran Canaria |
"She's our only real friend who knows what stuff we are into. She's single and mingling with anyone who'll have sex with her. I've felt sick for weeks thinking about her all over him. Maybe I'm being unreasonable for feeling this way. The flirting, the looks, the holding him tight while squeezing past. Yuck "
Unacceptable. Just because you guys are in this lifestyle she has NO RIGHT to act like that. U need to tell her and tell ur husband that it isn't on and he also needs to tell her it isn't on. Miss C. Xx |
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"She's our only real friend who knows what stuff we are into. She's single and mingling with anyone who'll have sex with her. I've felt sick for weeks thinking about her all over him. Maybe I'm being unreasonable for feeling this way. The flirting, the looks, the holding him tight while squeezing past. Yuck "
This sounds dangerous...id just let her know it's not on, I'd also _ouble check with Mr to make sure he knows she's off limits.. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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Maybe you should explain that just because you swing, doesn't make it open season on your husband. You choose who you play with, and you've chosen not to play with her, so she should respect boundaries.
I know people not into this lifestyle think its a free for all fuckfest but it isn't, and maybe she needs to be educated. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes she knows we play, that's how much trust we have with her or had. I'm kinda sad I lost a good friend too "
Maybe she wonders why you'll play with others but not with your best friend? Perhaps you need to spell it out to her that friendship is precisely why you won't play with her but play with other people.
Maybe encourage her onto this site so she can get her fun elsewhere without going after your hubby? |
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"Yes she knows we play, that's how much trust we have with her or had. I'm kinda sad I lost a good friend too "
Well you may still get her back! A lot of people outside the swinging world seem to think everyone is 'fair game' to swingers - just point out kindly but firmly that that's not the case - and get your husband to do the same - then leave things to cool off for a while - and you may get your friend back! |
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"Maybe because she's not a random she's someone he sees all of the time so he could develop feelings from her
She's not talking about a swap she just wants to fuck your husband
She's your best friend and it's highly inappropriate
I'd feel exactly the same
Ruby"
Agreed....your friend is not showing you any respect so you need to speak to her asap |
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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago
West Wales |
"My so called best friend is obsessed with my husband, and I'm really uneasy with it all. She's waaaayyyy over the top touchy-feely and has said she'd love to have Sex with him. Now I'm at that point of just ignoring her and coming ascross as rude which I am not. But.. I'm supposed to be into swapping so why is this doing my head in so much? "
I presume she knows you guys are here if she's close? Its almost as if the overriding thing is the word itself "Swinging" You swing, therefore you are fair game no matter what your preferences are.
H had issues with two guys that know, they hit on her one suggesting the obvious the other an mff with his wife, this despite both being told we wanted a female playmate only.
She just spoke quite bluntly to them & we are still friends..
H would probably start hitting on her till she feels uncomfortable and says so, then she'd point out its exactly how you feel about the Ott flirting
That's if she's straight of course
S
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By *ndigo40Woman
over a year ago
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"My so called best friend is obsessed with my husband, and I'm really uneasy with it all. She's waaaayyyy over the top touchy-feely and has said she'd love to have Sex with him. Now I'm at that point of just ignoring her and coming ascross as rude which I am not. But.. I'm supposed to be into swapping so why is this doing my head in so much? "
Take her to one side and tell her to stop flirting with your husband or your going to break her fingers
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By *layalong OP Couple
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
We don't just fuck everyone as it's not what we are about, just want her to fuck off. We don't swing local either as we like to like our private life private if that makes sense. I don't just think this is about sex but actually wanting him for her own. |
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By *ouble CCouple
over a year ago
Gran Canaria |
"We don't just fuck everyone as it's not what we are about, just want her to fuck off. We don't swing local either as we like to like our private life private if that makes sense. I don't just think this is about sex but actually wanting him for her own. "
She's needs to be told. And your husband needs to tell her as well. Show her that you stand together. Miss C. Xx |
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"We don't just fuck everyone as it's not what we are about, just want her to fuck off. We don't swing local either as we like to like our private life private if that makes sense. I don't just think this is about sex but actually wanting him for her own.
She's needs to be told. And your husband needs to tell her as well. Show her that you stand together. Miss C. Xx "
Pretty sound advice..I'd she wants him, she needs to be told. If your friendship doesn't last..then it's better than your relationship and swinging being endangered by jealousy and mistrust. |
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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago
West Wales |
"We don't just fuck everyone as it's not what we are about, just want her to fuck off. We don't swing local either as we like to like our private life private if that makes sense. I don't just think this is about sex but actually wanting him for her own.
She's needs to be told. And your husband needs to tell her as well. Show her that you stand together. Miss C. Xx "
Yep, it'll usually continue till he knocks her back if you think she's actually after him to take. So sit together and have it out with her..
S |
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By *oletiCouple
over a year ago
Doncaster |
"We don't just fuck everyone as it's not what we are about, just want her to fuck off. We don't swing local either as we like to like our private life private if that makes sense. I don't just think this is about sex but actually wanting him for her own. "
Totally understand this. Maybe if your husband asks her to back off she might listen ask him to make it clear to her he isnt interested? You need to tell her shes overstepping the mark. X |
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By *layalong OP Couple
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
Thank you all for being so understanding, it's nice to know I'm not a complete dick for feeling like this. I think I'm going to have to have a chat her very soon before we have a massive fall out |
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By *ouble CCouple
over a year ago
Gran Canaria |
"Thank you all for being so understanding, it's nice to know I'm not a complete dick for feeling like this. I think I'm going to have to have a chat her very soon before we have a massive fall out "
Good idea. And you are NOT a dick. Have a chat and give her a chance to sort herself out if she continues elbow her. Miss C. Xx |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
yumsville |
If she's single, you have to consider why she she is being so up front about it. I'd be considering things she could be saying that you don't know about to other people about having him i.e. on a bet. It could make it very awkward when out in public. What you choose to tell people is one thing, what you do with people is another. You should probably just tell her one night when he is out of the room to ease off and stop teasing him as you don't like it. It might put a dampener on things for a moment but she'll know where she stands. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"She's our only real friend who knows what stuff we are into. She's single and mingling with anyone who'll have sex with her. I've felt sick for weeks thinking about her all over him. Maybe I'm being unreasonable for feeling this way. The flirting, the looks, the holding him tight while squeezing past. Yuck "
Your feelings are valid.
However perhaps you need to think about why you don't like it with her, but you're ok with it from others.
Seems pretty harmless from your description. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You should probably just tell her one night when he is out of the room to ease off and stop teasing him as you don't like it. It might put a dampener on things for a moment but she'll know where she stands. "
Maybe he should say no? After all, it's him that she wants to be involved with? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well if she was a real friend she would not cross that bonder by trying to have sex with her friend’s partner its one golden rule no one should cross trying to have fun with her best friends partner. Who am I to say what’s right or wrong when I’m always in the wrong |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
yumsville |
"You should probably just tell her one night when he is out of the room to ease off and stop teasing him as you don't like it. It might put a dampener on things for a moment but she'll know where she stands.
Maybe he should say no? After all, it's him that she wants to be involved with?"
It's her friend. If he's anything like the average bloke he'll say 'look luv, you're nice n all but she says we can't fuck so that's it'. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well if she was a real friend she would not cross that bonder by trying to have sex with her friend’s partner its one golden rule no one should cross trying to have fun with her best friends partner."
I don't have that golden rule personally.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You should probably just tell her one night when he is out of the room to ease off and stop teasing him as you don't like it. It might put a dampener on things for a moment but she'll know where she stands.
Maybe he should say no? After all, it's him that she wants to be involved with?
It's her friend. If he's anything like the average bloke he'll say 'look luv, you're nice n all but she says we can't fuck so that's it'. "
Well either he wants to fuck her or he doesn't. Perhaps he should make his decision and own it... |
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By *ouble CCouple
over a year ago
Gran Canaria |
"She's our only real friend who knows what stuff we are into. She's single and mingling with anyone who'll have sex with her. I've felt sick for weeks thinking about her all over him. Maybe I'm being unreasonable for feeling this way. The flirting, the looks, the holding him tight while squeezing past. Yuck
Your feelings are valid.
However perhaps you need to think about why you don't like it with her, but you're ok with it from others.
Seems pretty harmless from your description."
For me it's not in the vein of swinging. I would never allow Mr C to go a pub for example and 'pull' a woman and go home with her. I would never do that either. Swinging is something we do together, and separate at times, but for me it isn't the same. |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
yumsville |
"You should probably just tell her one night when he is out of the room to ease off and stop teasing him as you don't like it. It might put a dampener on things for a moment but she'll know where she stands.
Maybe he should say no? After all, it's him that she wants to be involved with?
It's her friend. If he's anything like the average bloke he'll say 'look luv, you're nice n all but she says we can't fuck so that's it'.
Well either he wants to fuck her or he doesn't. Perhaps he should make his decision and own it..."
Is there some reason she can't speak up for herself? If he did it and embarrassed a long term friend ending in losing that friend she'd be pissed off at him. (out of this cov) |
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"Maybe you should explain that just because you swing, doesn't make it open season on your husband. You choose who you play with, and you've chosen not to play with her, so she should respect boundaries.
I know people not into this lifestyle think its a free for all fuckfest but it isn't, and maybe she needs to be educated."
This is the nail on the head.
I would suggest you both sit her down and have a chat, explain the above and lay down rules. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Is there some reason she can't speak up for herself? If he did it and embarrassed a long term friend ending in losing that friend she'd be pissed off at him. (out of this cov) "
Because it's not her that the friend is trying to fuck.
You can't give or withdraw consent on behalf of someone else. If the OP is unhappy she should let her partner know, and then her partner should voice his decisions about his body. |
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By *ouble CCouple
over a year ago
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Is there some reason she can't speak up for herself? If he did it and embarrassed a long term friend ending in losing that friend she'd be pissed off at him. (out of this cov)
Because it's not her that the friend is trying to fuck.
You can't give or withdraw consent on behalf of someone else. If the OP is unhappy she should let her partner know, and then her partner should voice his decisions about his body."
No....but she CAN voice her feelings. Relationships are give and take. And I'm very sure the lady's OH WON'T go there with this woman but he needs to know that his wife is unhappy about her behaviour. If she doesn't tell him how can he fix it? |
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Is there some reason she can't speak up for herself? If he did it and embarrassed a long term friend ending in losing that friend she'd be pissed off at him. (out of this cov)
Because it's not her that the friend is trying to fuck.
You can't give or withdraw consent on behalf of someone else. If the OP is unhappy she should let her partner know, and then her partner should voice his decisions about his body.
No....but she CAN voice her feelings. Relationships are give and take. And I'm very sure the lady's OH WON'T go there with this woman but he needs to know that his wife is unhappy about her behaviour. If she doesn't tell him how can he fix it? "
That was what I suggested. That she chats to her partner, and lets him make a decision about his body and let the friend know. |
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"She's our only real friend who knows what stuff we are into. She's single and mingling with anyone who'll have sex with her. I've felt sick for weeks thinking about her all over him. Maybe I'm being unreasonable for feeling this way. The flirting, the looks, the holding him tight while squeezing past. Yuck "
Sounds like she doesn't understand swinging and thinks there are no boundaries.
She needs to be told and if that doesn't help you need a new friend, because a bestie wouldn't do that.
What does your husband say aboutit? |
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By *ouble CCouple
over a year ago
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Is there some reason she can't speak up for herself? If he did it and embarrassed a long term friend ending in losing that friend she'd be pissed off at him. (out of this cov)
Because it's not her that the friend is trying to fuck.
You can't give or withdraw consent on behalf of someone else. If the OP is unhappy she should let her partner know, and then her partner should voice his decisions about his body.
No....but she CAN voice her feelings. Relationships are give and take. And I'm very sure the lady's OH WON'T go there with this woman but he needs to know that his wife is unhappy about her behaviour. If she doesn't tell him how can he fix it?
That was what I suggested. That she chats to her partner, and lets him make a decision about his body and let the friend know."
Sorry. Sounded to me like you were saying she can't tell her OH what to do. Obviously you (by that I mean me) cant get tone etc from seeing something on a screen in a message. Miss C. Xx |
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By *layalong OP Couple
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
She was very touchy with him when we went out after Christmas to the point my friends where asking what's going on. I've just clammed up since then with her. I trust my husband but still fucked off that my other pals felt uncomfortable |
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"She's our only real friend who knows what stuff we are into. She's single and mingling with anyone who'll have sex with her. I've felt sick for weeks thinking about her all over him. Maybe I'm being unreasonable for feeling this way. The flirting, the looks, the holding him tight while squeezing past. Yuck "
I'm not condoning her behaviour as I would definitely feel the same as you
Like someone mentioned above OH & I have a no playing with anyone we knew in real life before we got involved in this scene
But as your friend knows your lifestyle choices could she think your husband is fairgame & that you'd be ok with that, does she know you had boundaries in respect of swinging
She could also be getting offended thinking why haven't I been invited into your bedroom when I've made it clear I'm interested & I know you play with others
I think you need to sit down & have a chat with her as it's not worth ruining a good friendship over |
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"She was very touchy with him when we went out after Christmas to the point my friends where asking what's going on. I've just clammed up since then with her. I trust my husband but still fucked off that my other pals felt uncomfortable "
Yeah, she's overstepped the mark - it could be that she genuinely thinks because you swing it's open season on him, in which case if you sit down and have a chat and explain she should be appalled to have upset you and totally back-off.
Or, she could be one of those women that has no concept of loyalty, no respect for other people's relationships, and is being predatory - in which case she needs to be told in no uncertain terms to back-off or find a new friend. |
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By *layalong OP Couple
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
"Getting back to the original topic I'm surprised your OH hasn't told her to back off especially if he knows how peeved you are about it!!"
I guess he doesn't want to feel awkward, if I pushed him he'd say something |
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"Getting back to the original topic I'm surprised your OH hasn't told her to back off especially if he knows how peeved you are about it!!
I guess he doesn't want to feel awkward, if I pushed him he'd say something "
If she's your best mate, surely she can tell you're uncomfortable? In which case she is no friend of yours. If your husband is also uncomfortable, take a united front and tell her bluntly she's overstepping the mark. If your husband is ok with it, you have a husband issue more than a friend one. Either way, time to start talking. |
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"I think she knows. I've hardly spoke to her, and when I have it's been very blunt"
You need to tell her straight though! Although I once did this with a fab female friend of mine and asked her to follow the girls code of conduct and stay away from an ex of mine at a private party but she couldn't help herself and went there anyway, we then had words before she went back for a second helping. Didn't speak for a long time then held out the hand of friendship for her to do it again by taking him to a club party that I was going to and had the barefaced cheek to ring me before hand and ask if I was ok with it as she didn't think I would be there! So in my experience best to be honest and explain what you want and hope your friend is mature enough to respect you're feelings. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This is the perfect example of why you never tell your vanilla friends about your swinging life.
They will feel left out and not good enough to be invited into your bedroom....
Now to help you with this dilemma..... send me her number and I'll take her off your hands |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"She's our only real friend who knows what stuff we are into. She's single and mingling with anyone who'll have sex with her. I've felt sick for weeks thinking about her all over him. Maybe I'm being unreasonable for feeling this way. The flirting, the looks, the holding him tight while squeezing past. Yuck "
If she knows that you're into swinging then maybe she thinks it's acceptable behaviour? And by you laughing it off, well that's giving the impression you're happy about it. You need to talk to her. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think she knows. I've hardly spoke to her, and when I have it's been very blunt
You need to tell her straight though! Although I once did this with a fab female friend of mine and asked her to follow the girls code of conduct and stay away from an ex of mine at a private party but she couldn't help herself and went there anyway, we then had words before she went back for a second helping. Didn't speak for a long time then held out the hand of friendship for her to do it again by taking him to a club party that I was going to and had the barefaced cheek to ring me before hand and ask if I was ok with it as she didn't think I would be there! So in my experience best to be honest and explain what you want and hope your friend is mature enough to respect you're feelings."
Why were you bothered if he was an ex? |
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"My so called best friend is obsessed with my husband, and I'm really uneasy with it all. She's waaaayyyy over the top touchy-feely and has said she'd love to have Sex with him. Now I'm at that point of just ignoring her and coming ascross as rude which I am not. But.. I'm supposed to be into swapping so why is this doing my head in so much? "
Is you head detachable?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If a friend said that to me I'm afraid she would no longer be a friend. For me personally I would end the friendship as I would not have any trust there |
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"I think she knows. I've hardly spoke to her, and when I have it's been very blunt
You need to tell her straight though! Although I once did this with a fab female friend of mine and asked her to follow the girls code of conduct and stay away from an ex of mine at a private party but she couldn't help herself and went there anyway, we then had words before she went back for a second helping. Didn't speak for a long time then held out the hand of friendship for her to do it again by taking him to a club party that I was going to and had the barefaced cheek to ring me before hand and ask if I was ok with it as she didn't think I would be there! So in my experience best to be honest and explain what you want and hope your friend is mature enough to respect you're feelings.
Why were you bothered if he was an ex?"
Ex or not ex if you ask a friend not to go there then you respect their wishes not their grovelling bullshit excuses, simples |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS THIS. But sorry that whole story didn't ring true to me. I'm guessing that was a man. Just some things that were said. Call me suspicious if you want to
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"AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS THIS. But sorry that whole story didn't ring true to me. I'm guessing that was a man. Just some things that were said. Call me suspicious if you want to
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I often wonder if I'm the only one, and on occasions, pair. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Getting back to the original topic I'm surprised your OH hasn't told her to back off especially if he knows how peeved you are about it!!
I guess he doesn't want to feel awkward, if I pushed him he'd say something "
Should you have to push him? If he is aware of how uncomfortable this situation makes you feel where does his loyalty lie, with you or a friend? How would he feel if the situation was reversed and one of his mates was coming onto you in a way he found unacceptable? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think she knows. I've hardly spoke to her, and when I have it's been very blunt
You need to tell her straight though! Although I once did this with a fab female friend of mine and asked her to follow the girls code of conduct and stay away from an ex of mine at a private party but she couldn't help herself and went there anyway, we then had words before she went back for a second helping. Didn't speak for a long time then held out the hand of friendship for her to do it again by taking him to a club party that I was going to and had the barefaced cheek to ring me before hand and ask if I was ok with it as she didn't think I would be there! So in my experience best to be honest and explain what you want and hope your friend is mature enough to respect you're feelings.
Why were you bothered if he was an ex?
Ex or not ex if you ask a friend not to go there then you respect their wishes not their grovelling bullshit excuses, simples"
You can't dictate to a friend who she can or can't see. He's an ex, that means he's a free man to do as he wants, as your friend is a free agent too. Move on from him. |
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over a year ago
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"My so called best friend is obsessed with my husband, and I'm really uneasy with it all. She's waaaayyyy over the top touchy-feely and has said she'd love to have Sex with him. Now I'm at that point of just ignoring her and coming ascross as rude which I am not. But.. I'm supposed to be into swapping so why is this doing my head in so much? "
As long as you trust your husband you shouldn't worry |
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over a year ago
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"My so called best friend is obsessed with my husband, and I'm really uneasy with it all. She's waaaayyyy over the top touchy-feely and has said she'd love to have Sex with him. Now I'm at that point of just ignoring her and coming ascross as rude which I am not. But.. I'm supposed to be into swapping so why is this doing my head in so much?
As long as you trust your husband you shouldn't worry "
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"I think she knows. I've hardly spoke to her, and when I have it's been very blunt
You need to tell her straight though! Although I once did this with a fab female friend of mine and asked her to follow the girls code of conduct and stay away from an ex of mine at a private party but she couldn't help herself and went there anyway, we then had words before she went back for a second helping. Didn't speak for a long time then held out the hand of friendship for her to do it again by taking him to a club party that I was going to and had the barefaced cheek to ring me before hand and ask if I was ok with it as she didn't think I would be there! So in my experience best to be honest and explain what you want and hope your friend is mature enough to respect you're feelings.
Why were you bothered if he was an ex?
Ex or not ex if you ask a friend not to go there then you respect their wishes not their grovelling bullshit excuses, simples
You can't dictate to a friend who she can or can't see. He's an ex, that means he's a free man to do as he wants, as your friend is a free agent too. Move on from him."
Trust me I moved on a long time ago, but follow the girls code of not playing with a friends buddy or ex buddy, yet some people can't help themselves and come out with bullshit for how it happens after they've followed you're veris!! So very childish that they can't get their own meets and have to follow others I suppose I should feel privileged lol |
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"We don't just fuck everyone as it's not what we are about, just want her to fuck off. We don't swing local either as we like to like our private life private if that makes sense. I don't just think this is about sex but actually wanting him for her own.
Totally understand this. Maybe if your husband asks her to back off she might listen ask him to make it clear to her he isnt interested? You need to tell her shes overstepping the mark. X"
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"I think she knows. I've hardly spoke to her, and when I have it's been very blunt
You need to tell her straight though! Although I once did this with a fab female friend of mine and asked her to follow the girls code of conduct and stay away from an ex of mine at a private party but she couldn't help herself and went there anyway, we then had words before she went back for a second helping. Didn't speak for a long time then held out the hand of friendship for her to do it again by taking him to a club party that I was going to and had the barefaced cheek to ring me before hand and ask if I was ok with it as she didn't think I would be there! So in my experience best to be honest and explain what you want and hope your friend is mature enough to respect you're feelings.
Why were you bothered if he was an ex?
Ex or not ex if you ask a friend not to go there then you respect their wishes not their grovelling bullshit excuses, simples
You can't dictate to a friend who she can or can't see. He's an ex, that means he's a free man to do as he wants, as your friend is a free agent too. Move on from him.
Trust me I moved on a long time ago, but follow the girls code of not playing with a friends buddy or ex buddy, yet some people can't help themselves and come out with bullshit for how it happens after they've followed you're veris!! So very childish that they can't get their own meets and have to follow others I suppose I should feel privileged lol "
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to summarise, a vanilla friend who you have told about your swinging lifestyle has started to flirt heavily with your husband. We don't know if your husband is encouraging, humouring her or ignoring the behaviour. We do know that you are very uncomfortable with it all. As the swinging is about you as a couple, you as a couple need to explain what your wants are as far as this friend is concerned. If you don't want to invite her to play with you, then she needs to understand that flirting with your husband is damaging your friendship. She can then make the decision as to whether she carries on with her behaviour or whether she goes back to being a friend. If she carries on with her behaviour, I would suggest that the friendship is over. I suspect the friendship is over anyway, as it appears you have lost trust with her and possibly respect too. |
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over a year ago
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"I think she knows. I've hardly spoke to her, and when I have it's been very blunt
You need to tell her straight though! Although I once did this with a fab female friend of mine and asked her to follow the girls code of conduct and stay away from an ex of mine at a private party but she couldn't help herself and went there anyway, we then had words before she went back for a second helping. Didn't speak for a long time then held out the hand of friendship for her to do it again by taking him to a club party that I was going to and had the barefaced cheek to ring me before hand and ask if I was ok with it as she didn't think I would be there! So in my experience best to be honest and explain what you want and hope your friend is mature enough to respect you're feelings.
Why were you bothered if he was an ex?
Ex or not ex if you ask a friend not to go there then you respect their wishes not their grovelling bullshit excuses, simples
You can't dictate to a friend who she can or can't see. He's an ex, that means he's a free man to do as he wants, as your friend is a free agent too. Move on from him.
Trust me I moved on a long time ago, but follow the girls code of not playing with a friends buddy or ex buddy, yet some people can't help themselves and come out with bullshit for how it happens after they've followed you're veris!! So very childish that they can't get their own meets and have to follow others I suppose I should feel privileged lol "
Can't say I have that code with my friends. They have the freedom of choice, I'd never try and dictate, they know I support them in their decisions, even if I don't totally agree. |
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"My so called best friend is obsessed with my husband, and I'm really uneasy with it all. She's waaaayyyy over the top touchy-feely and has said she'd love to have Sex with him. Now I'm at that point of just ignoring her and coming ascross as rude which I am not. But.. I'm supposed to be into swapping so why is this doing my head in so much? "
I know exactly where you are coming from. I would say 'tell her how you feel' but then I would need to take my own advice! How does your hubby feel about the situation? |
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If this happened to me, I would talk to my partner and have him decide. His decision would inform my decision. We have had a couple of ex try to get in there between us. My OH doesn't see it happening, but I am very intuitive and I do. When we talk about it, he sees it. He's pretty oblivious to it and certainly doesn't encourage it. Nothing has happened and I know nothing would. It's about trusting your partner to do the best for you guys. None of my friends would ever do this. It wouldn't be any consideration, but then again, none of them know we swing |
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I've only skipped through so sorry if this has already been covered
It is perfectly normal for you to feel the way you do
It is also normal for your husband to be acting the way he is, she is your friend and he probably doesn't want to be caught in the middle of what could be a big fall out
It seems to me a lot of miscommunication is at play,
She thinks your swingers so it's fair game, that is understandable as she's not a swinger so couldn't possibly understand the rules and etiquette of the lifestyle.
I think you should invite her over and have a frank discussion between the 3 of you, explain to her why swinging with friends is off limits and why she caused embarrassment when she was being openly amorous with your hubby, there's every chance she'll be mortified once she realises how far she's overstepped the mark.
In order to keep her friendship after this knock back you could offer to teach her more about how swinging works and maybe even offer to accompany her to a club if she thinks it's for her.
If she can't handle the situation then it's better to lose a friend than your husband.
I suppose there is a lesson to be learned here about who we tell about our secret lives, not being judgemental at all, it's just that I know how very tempting it can be to want to tell people.
The best of luck to all three of you as you work out this awkward situation x |
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over a year ago
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"She's our only real friend who knows what stuff we are into. She's single and mingling with anyone who'll have sex with her. I've felt sick for weeks thinking about her all over him. Maybe I'm being unreasonable for feeling this way. The flirting, the looks, the holding him tight while squeezing past. Yuck "
What the hell is your husband doing while this is happening? |
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By *layalong OP Couple
over a year ago
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"This is the perfect example of why you never tell your vanilla friends about your swinging life.
They will feel left out and not good enough to be invited into your bedroom....
Now to help you with this dilemma..... send me her number and I'll take her off your hands "
You can have her mate x |
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I think you should invite her over and have a frank discussion between the 3 of you, explain to her why swinging with friends is off limits and why she caused embarrassment when she was being openly amorous with your hubby, there's every chance she'll be mortified once she realises how far she's overstepped the mark.
x"
I think this is sound advice. I personally couldn't do it, I have a vicious temper when unleashed and I would be worried that it would erupt uncontrollably. I will continue to avoid, glare and seethe.........
Please post on here the outcome when you reach it. |
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"You've made the mistake of telling her that you swing and now she thinks anything goes.
Tell her to back the fuck off, your relationship, your rules."
I was thinking that, maybe because she knows you swing she really does not realise what she is doing is upsetting you
Personally id tell her that all because you swing you like to keep sex and friends separate
If she carrys on id tell her to keep away
She may have though you was dropping hints by telling her maybe she thinks this is what you was after, give her the benifit of the doubt first |
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By *ilacWoman
over a year ago
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Sadly in my experience, a firm no and an explanation of them overstepping boundaries only creates more of a challenge/game and they come back harder. I suppose it depends how genuine your friendship is. I think it's down to the male in this situation to back them off. It's him that's the target of her attention and he needs to say no rather than you. |
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Completely justifiable. I have some friends who were vanilla but who came into the scene and we have never played with each other's love interests or each other. I can't see them in a sexual way and I just wouldn't feel comfortable. I had one boyfriend who kept pushing it and he ended up being abusive. If people don't respect your boundaries there will be troubles ahead. It maybe that she wants to go into the scene if she isn't already, but you need to make clear it's off limits, and if she continues I'd rethink your friendship. You shouldn't feel the way you do now, and you know because you're a swinger that it's not simple insecurities |
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"It's because it's personal, swinging isn't personal..."
this - and if its making you feel incomfy and it was in a swinging situation you would stop it - so id say stop it more so seeing as it s your friend |
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H would probably start hitting on her till she feels uncomfortable and says so, then she'd point out its exactly how you feel about the Ott flirting
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this is the answer. Just get flirting with her yourself make her uneasy as you feel.
We had a friend once who was bleeding on how she was Bi so a bit mate of ours, when they were in the loos, as girls do in pairs, went for it hands down the knickers and what not to call her our on it. She shit herself and embarrassingly admitted she wasn't.
You crack on to her. That'll get shut of her. |
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"She was very touchy with him when we went out after Christmas to the point my friends where asking what's going on. I've just clammed up since then with her. I trust my husband but still fucked off that my other pals felt uncomfortable "
You are very patient in this case . You shouldn't feel like you do! Follow your gut feeling and tell her to back off in very commanding manner . She will know you are not joking then .
But also your husband should tell her to back off too and show her he is not interested . You are a couple and you need to deal with this together ! |
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