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"Join the killing kittens website. Make a profile and wait and see if you're accepted. Then go to their parties that are held. " Killing kittens! That's the one i meant | |||
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"We've been to a couple of clubs...quite taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there (their choice, but not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us), so we just wondered ...are there any clubs where the majority in attendance are not massively overweight? Before anyone has a pop (as surely thy will) We aren't models, nor athletic ....but we aren't overweight." If you don;t like it don't stay - Oh by the way mind the door on your way out. | |||
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"that's just rude, on a site yes put preferences as we do and that's who we attract, clubs? open to all and perhaps you go for what you want and others go for what they want, no need for segregation!!!!!" It's not rude. They aren't saying that fat people shouldn't be there, they are saying they are nor turned on by fat people and so wish to socialise in places where they are more likely to be aroused. Absolutely nothing rude about that. | |||
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"We've been to a couple of clubs...quite taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there (their choice, but not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us), so we just wondered ...are there any clubs where the majority in attendance are not massively overweight? Before anyone has a pop (as surely thy will) We aren't models, nor athletic ....but we aren't overweight. If you don;t like it don't stay - Oh by the way mind the door on your way out." Why are you being so rude to them? It's a perfectly reasonable question. Or are you hoping all the fatties will send you defending their right to go to clubs (a right that was never in question in the opening post) and fall to their knees open mouthed ready to show how grateful they are? | |||
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"that's just rude, on a site yes put preferences as we do and that's who we attract, clubs? open to all and perhaps you go for what you want and others go for what they want, no need for segregation!!!!!" It's not really rude. Many parties/clubs cater for preferences....fetish/bi/black guys etc etc | |||
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"Is that question for fucking real ?" Yes. What's wrong with it? | |||
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"Is that question for fucking real ?" Yes. There are often threads asking if any clubs cater for people under 40, loads of clubs do BBW nights, BMFC nights etc, what's the difference? | |||
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"A reflection of the size of people on this site I'd guess Most are overweight so I'd think you'd see the same in any club.. Hence why I haven't been to one.. Ugly guys want to get laid, so do fat lasses.. We all try to punch over our weight.. It's natural.. Lasses will get laid no matter what.. Guys won't - simple " And ugly personalities wank a lot - it's a funny old world. | |||
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"Join the killing kittens website. Make a profile and wait and see if you're accepted. Then go to their parties that are held. Killing kittens! That's the one i meant " nooo... they are too old for the killing kittens crowd...... | |||
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"A reflection of the size of people on this site I'd guess Most are overweight so I'd think you'd see the same in any club.. Hence why I haven't been to one.. Ugly guys want to get laid, so do fat lasses.. We all try to punch over our weight.. It's natural.. Lasses will get laid no matter what.. Guys won't - simple And ugly personalities wank a lot - it's a funny old world. " Hahaha that's funny quite probably true | |||
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"that's just rude, on a site yes put preferences as we do and that's who we attract, clubs? open to all and perhaps you go for what you want and others go for what they want, no need for segregation!!!!! It's not really rude. Many parties/clubs cater for preferences....fetish/bi/black guys etc etc" still rude to me!!! clubs are for all, parties for preferencies obv a diff thing xx | |||
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"I understand the OP's viewpoint but aren't they just simply being too unrealistic. Where in the non swinging world would you decide to go based simply on body type? Perhaps they should avoid shopping in certain shops because the people shopping there are to fat, or god forbid come across a clothes shop selling pus size clothes. Please live in the real world - people come in all shapes and sizes, some are for you and some aren't. Socialise who the ones you like but don't segregate those you don't like." In the context of fab then do you think people should stop asking to meet black guys only or the men who want to meet BBWs shouldn't attend BBW nights? | |||
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"that's just rude, on a site yes put preferences as we do and that's who we attract, clubs? open to all and perhaps you go for what you want and others go for what they want, no need for segregation!!!!!" So why have BBW nights? Although i do feel while a BBW night works a "slim girls" (is there even an acronym) night would be a disaster as no one would want to risk getting turned away, then there would be a few militant BBW who would go, then the majority of rhe type that would fit in would probbaly bail because its just bound to be a PR disaster | |||
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"that's just rude, on a site yes put preferences as we do and that's who we attract, clubs? open to all and perhaps you go for what you want and others go for what they want, no need for segregation!!!!! It's not really rude. Many parties/clubs cater for preferences....fetish/bi/black guys etc etc still rude to me!!! clubs are for all, parties for preferencies obv a diff thing xx" It's no different than going out for a night to a new club but realising the music is shit and you can't get your groove one to it so you ask of anyone knows any clubs that play the music you like | |||
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"What are you taken aback by ? Fat people having fun or the fact you weren't ? I have seen people of all shapes and sizes in clubs. It doesn't bother me what they look like naked. If I find them unattractive, so what ? There is no compulsion to play with them or even socialise with them. It sounds like you who has the problem not them." I dunno when you stop in a quiet corridor corner for a quick kiss and light play looking up from your partners neck to come face to face with 3 fat, old rather unattractive old men starring and wanking away under thier towels can seriously kill the mood. And yes if i looked up and there was a fit young couple maybe having a bit of a play themselves that would be differnt/a turn on. | |||
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"OMG just lock us fat people up n throw the key away, Is this what the world is going to be like in the future ? Fat - lock em up Married - lock em up Ugly - lock em up" If you're gonna be fat you could at least be jolly. | |||
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"that's just rude, on a site yes put preferences as we do and that's who we attract, clubs? open to all and perhaps you go for what you want and others go for what they want, no need for segregation!!!!! So why have BBW nights? Although i do feel while a BBW night works a "slim girls" (is there even an acronym) night would be a disaster as no one would want to risk getting turned away, then there would be a few militant BBW who would go, then the majority of rhe type that would fit in would probbaly bail because its just bound to be a PR disaster" Slim women are always welcome at any bbw night I arrange. The club stays open for all members but I hold a guest list of people who are allowed to attend under my membership. No discrimination, I have had size 10's request to be on my guest list. By having a night where you know people are going to be interested in larger ladies they feel more comfortable and secure in the knowledge that they are less likely to receive abuse for being there (I know from personal experience that this happens) | |||
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"OMG just lock us fat people up n throw the key away, Is this what the world is going to be like in the future ? Fat - lock em up Married - lock em up Ugly - lock em up" Are you reading a comedy different thread | |||
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"Smarmy women get laid too.. Just the same as a fat lass will " And still the ugly personality wanks.... | |||
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"We've been to a couple of clubs...quite taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there (their choice, but not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us), so we just wondered ...are there any clubs where the majority in attendance are not massively overweight? Before anyone has a pop (as surely thy will) We aren't models, nor athletic ....but we aren't overweight." A club with a weighbridge on the door!? | |||
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"OMG just lock us fat people up n throw the key away, Is this what the world is going to be like in the future ? Fat - lock em up Married - lock em up Ugly - lock em up If you're gonna be fat you could at least be jolly." . | |||
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"What are you taken aback by ? Fat people having fun or the fact you weren't ? I have seen people of all shapes and sizes in clubs. It doesn't bother me what they look like naked. If I find them unattractive, so what ? There is no compulsion to play with them or even socialise with them. It sounds like you who has the problem not them." They never said they didn't agree with anyone being there,just that they are not their thing and so are looking for a more suitable crowd. | |||
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"Am I the only fat person that hasn't taken offence to the OPs question? " Nope, I wasn't offended either. I was more offended by people's reactions to it lol | |||
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"What are you taken aback by ? Fat people having fun or the fact you weren't ? I have seen people of all shapes and sizes in clubs. It doesn't bother me what they look like naked. If I find them unattractive, so what ? There is no compulsion to play with them or even socialise with them. It sounds like you who has the problem not them. They never said they didn't agree with anyone being there,just that they are not their thing and so are looking for a more suitable crowd. " Half of me agrees Half of me thinks they stopped short of saying naked fatties repulse them I am in two minds Maybe I'm tired ? Time for bed I'll see how I read it with a fresh pair of eyes tomorrow x | |||
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"Am I the only fat person that hasn't taken offence to the OPs question? " Nope. I've not. Fair play on them. As long as people are not rude it's their choice. | |||
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"These type of posts really diminish my ever lacking self confidence.. there are people in clubs who I'm not attracted to but I just smile and get on with my night. I think I'm not sexy/slim/attractive enough for swinging and posts like this just make me wonder why I'm here?? Oh yes because my partner and I love sex... Our most intimate thing and we are allowing people to share that.. if they don't find us attractive (up to now they have smiled chatted but not played) and luckily in the clubs I've been in.. I've never felt uneasy about myself. I'm sure somewhere will cater for those wants/needs.. but let's just hope you never fall into a "category" where you are made to feel inadequate." But they haven't said you shouldn't be there, they have actually said they shouldn't be there and are seeking somewhere better for them.... | |||
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"Join the killing kittens website. Make a profile and wait and see if you're accepted. Then go to their parties that are held. Killing kittens! That's the one i meant nooo... they are too old for the killing kittens crowd...... " They have silver kitten for over 45s so they could still apply | |||
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"Am I the only fat person that hasn't taken offence to the OPs question? Nope, I wasn't offended either. I was more offended by people's reactions to it lol " I haven't read the whole thread but at least I'm not alone. It's a simple matter of a preference related question, Shane it's been taken so out of context | |||
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"Am I the only fat person that hasn't taken offence to the OPs question? " I'm not offended as a fatty I'm kinda offended on a human level See points above about tiredness tho My offence may dissipate with sleep | |||
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"Join the killing kittens website. Make a profile and wait and see if you're accepted. Then go to their parties that are held. Killing kittens! That's the one i meant nooo... they are too old for the killing kittens crowd...... " I thought kk had age restrictions wasn't sure though, goodluck op at finding what turns you on | |||
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"Am I the only fat person that hasn't taken offence to the OPs question? I'm not offended as a fatty I'm kinda offended on a human level See points above about tiredness tho My offence may dissipate with sleep " Well off to bed with you then young man! | |||
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"Am I the only fat person that hasn't taken offence to the OPs question? " NO I thought they did quite tactfully. It seems lately any sort of preference is being attacked. | |||
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"Fat Obese guy here & i am only on here for friendship, I found they way it was put across offensive. " You clearly have an axe to grind with some of your replies. | |||
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"Fat Obese guy here & i am only on here for friendship, I found they way it was put across offensive. " That probably says more about you than them | |||
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"Am I the only fat person that hasn't taken offence to the OPs question? Nope, I wasn't offended either. I was more offended by people's reactions to it lol I haven't read the whole thread but at least I'm not alone. It's a simple matter of a preference related question, Shane it's been taken so out of context " I'm not offended either...as with everything on fab people who aren't included feel offended and down trodden....the same happens on the bbc threads, the white guys can't help themselves. On the bbw appreciating threads, the slim have a pop. Fab never fails to deliver in that respect. | |||
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"wear a blind fold " Eat less? | |||
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" But they haven't said you shouldn't be there, they have actually said they shouldn't be there and are seeking somewhere better for them...." Very true.. maybe my reaction is because I'm insecure about myself. but being around swinging has boosted my confidence a bit! Every one is entitled to an opinion, view, type ect.. I hope the op finds what they are looking for.. swinging is about enjoying yourself.. so go out and enjoy! I do.. x | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? " My size is nothing to do with food, it is down to medication. a slice of brown toast in the morning a small salad for lunch ( no meat or dairy ) a bowl of soup for tea every day | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? My size is nothing to do with food, it is down to medication. a slice of brown toast in the morning a small salad for lunch ( no meat or dairy ) a bowl of soup for tea every day " Oh come off it. | |||
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"Am I the only fat person that hasn't taken offence to the OPs question? " I wasn't offended, i did find it funny in the LOL kinda way however that the OP seems to want a club exclusively for average people! the least exclusive group of all | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? My size is nothing to do with food, it is down to medication. a slice of brown toast in the morning a small salad for lunch ( no meat or dairy ) a bowl of soup for tea every day Oh come off it. " Be-leave what you want i don't have to justify myself to you or anyone else. | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? My size is nothing to do with food, it is down to medication. a slice of brown toast in the morning a small salad for lunch ( no meat or dairy ) a bowl of soup for tea every day " No its not its down to food. Unless you some how violate the laws of physics. Also what youve described there as an every day diet is so hilariously a lie that it proves my point. Protip:you wpuld be severely ill, malnurished and quite possibly dead on that diet after a few months. Your body is made up entirely of what you consume. You're not a plant no carbon is being absorbed from the air to build you. | |||
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" Your body is made up entirely of what you consume. You're not a plant no carbon is being absorbed from the air to build you. " Well that versus what you burn. Soldiers in Afghanistan were eating 6,000 calories a day and still losing weight because of how many calories they were burning! | |||
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"Am I the only fat person that hasn't taken offence to the OPs question? I wasn't offended, i did find it funny in the LOL kinda way however that the OP seems to want a club exclusively for average people! the least exclusive group of all " I don't think it's hugely offensive but I don't think the words 'taken aback' were the most tactful | |||
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" Your body is made up entirely of what you consume. You're not a plant no carbon is being absorbed from the air to build you. Well that versus what you burn. Soldiers in Afghanistan were eating 6,000 calories a day and still losing weight because of how many calories they were burning!" Indeed an average person has to eat over 5000 a day just to maintain body mass in the artic etc. | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? My size is nothing to do with food, it is down to medication. a slice of brown toast in the morning a small salad for lunch ( no meat or dairy ) a bowl of soup for tea every day Oh come off it. Be-leave what you want i don't have to justify myself to you or anyone else. " I will believe that you're talking balderdash!! | |||
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"We've been to a couple of clubs...quite taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there (their choice, but not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us), so we just wondered ...are there any clubs where the majority in attendance are not massively overweight? Before anyone has a pop (as surely thy will) We aren't models, nor athletic ....but we aren't overweight." I'm fat which is down to my bad eating habits but I'm trying to lose weight but the stress in my life doesn't help. It's your choice who you meet and I prefer slim men as my preference. I can't comment on your body size as you have no public pictures | |||
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" Your body is made up entirely of what you consume. You're not a plant no carbon is being absorbed from the air to build you. Well that versus what you burn. Soldiers in Afghanistan were eating 6,000 calories a day and still losing weight because of how many calories they were burning! Indeed an average person has to eat over 5000 a day just to maintain body mass in the artic etc. " Good in theory but there's no KFC out there so whilst you'd be free to eat what you like but all the good stuff isn't available. It's like a cruel trick. Who wants to eat 5,000 calories of spam? | |||
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" Your body is made up entirely of what you consume. You're not a plant no carbon is being absorbed from the air to build you. Well that versus what you burn. Soldiers in Afghanistan were eating 6,000 calories a day and still losing weight because of how many calories they were burning! Indeed an average person has to eat over 5000 a day just to maintain body mass in the artic etc. Good in theory but there's no KFC out there so whilst you'd be free to eat what you like but all the good stuff isn't available. It's like a cruel trick. Who wants to eat 5,000 calories of spam? " Spam? You should be so lucky think more a pack of animal suet for the authentic traditional approach. | |||
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" Your body is made up entirely of what you consume. You're not a plant no carbon is being absorbed from the air to build you. Well that versus what you burn. Soldiers in Afghanistan were eating 6,000 calories a day and still losing weight because of how many calories they were burning! Indeed an average person has to eat over 5000 a day just to maintain body mass in the artic etc. Good in theory but there's no KFC out there so whilst you'd be free to eat what you like but all the good stuff isn't available. It's like a cruel trick. Who wants to eat 5,000 calories of spam? Spam? You should be so lucky think more a pack of animal suet for the authentic traditional approach." I don't see the point in travelling somewhere that doesn't serve KFC gravy. | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? My size is nothing to do with food, it is down to medication. a slice of brown toast in the morning a small salad for lunch ( no meat or dairy ) a bowl of soup for tea every day Oh come off it. Be-leave what you want i don't have to justify myself to you or anyone else. " The problem is that you aren't spending enough time in the artic or Afghanistan. We could put something up on a crowd sourcing site for you? | |||
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"Can't be bothered to be offended by op post .will say and expect to get abuse for ,some medications can and do cause Weight gain no matter what a person eats ." No they can ; Increase your appetite (through a variety of mechanisms), Slow your metabolism and lower your BMR, Make you lethargic and thus lower your actively consumed calories, But they cannot make matter out of nothing. They're tablets not violators of the conservation of energy principle. *spent 4 or 5 years on 2 medeicstions with "excessive weight gain" as thier main side effect. Also more worryingly "sudden unexplained death" as a very rare side effect on one. | |||
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"We've been to a couple of clubs...quite taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there (their choice, but not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us), so we just wondered ...are there any clubs where the majority in attendance are not massively overweight? Before anyone has a pop (as surely thy will) We aren't models, nor athletic ....but we aren't overweight." The average is overweight nowadays. The exception are not. Good luck finding a club that excludes average people. | |||
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"Can't be bothered to be offended by op post .will say and expect to get abuse for ,some medications can and do cause Weight gain no matter what a person eats . No they can ; Increase your appetite (through a variety of mechanisms), Slow your metabolism and lower your BMR, Make you lethargic and thus lower your actively consumed calories, But they cannot make matter out of nothing. They're tablets not violators of the conservation of energy principle. *spent 4 or 5 years on 2 medeicstions with "excessive weight gain" as thier main side effect. Also more worryingly "sudden unexplained death" as a very rare side effect on one. " Spontaneous human combustion is more of an 'effect' than 'side effect' really | |||
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"We've been to a couple of clubs...quite taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there (their choice, but not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us), so we just wondered ...are there any clubs where the majority in attendance are not massively overweight? Before anyone has a pop (as surely thy will) We aren't models, nor athletic ....but we aren't overweight. The average is overweight nowadays. The exception are not. Good luck finding a club that excludes average people. " Gay sauna? Pretty sure that excludes that statistical average of the pppulation. | |||
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"Can't be bothered to be offended by op post .will say and expect to get abuse for ,some medications can and do cause Weight gain no matter what a person eats . No they can ; Increase your appetite (through a variety of mechanisms), Slow your metabolism and lower your BMR, Make you lethargic and thus lower your actively consumed calories, But they cannot make matter out of nothing. They're tablets not violators of the conservation of energy principle. *spent 4 or 5 years on 2 medeicstions with "excessive weight gain" as thier main side effect. Also more worryingly "sudden unexplained death" as a very rare side effect on one. " Why were you on them if you don't mind me asking | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? " Shocker....it's turned into Dr wolf ryder 'i know everything about you even though I don't know you' fatty special. How presumptuous of you to tell someone they are lying about their diet? | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? Shocker....it's turned into Dr wolf ryder 'i know everything about you even though I don't know you' fatty special. How presumptuous of you to tell someone they are lying about their diet? " Youre right I'm sorry, his hilarious diet plan is so true. Btw did i mention i take 6 brearhs a day. Totally true honest. But that comment you quoted was just a retort to his comment about closing your eyes in reply to my first comment. Witty back and forth. | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? My size is nothing to do with food, it is down to medication. a slice of brown toast in the morning a small salad for lunch ( no meat or dairy ) a bowl of soup for tea every day " I used to use the medication excuse then I decided to stop kidding myself and have so far lost 15 stone | |||
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"We've been to a couple of clubs...quite taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there (their choice, but not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us), so we just wondered ...are there any clubs where the majority in attendance are not massively overweight? Before anyone has a pop (as surely thy will) We aren't models, nor athletic ....but we aren't overweight. The average is overweight nowadays. The exception are not. Good luck finding a club that excludes average people. " | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? Shocker....it's turned into Dr wolf ryder 'i know everything about you even though I don't know you' fatty special. How presumptuous of you to tell someone they are lying about their diet? Youre right I'm sorry, his hilarious diet plan is so true. Btw did i mention i take 6 brearhs a day. Totally true honest. But that comment you quoted was just a retort to his comment about closing your eyes in reply to my first comment. Witty back and forth." Even of it isn't true what has it got to do with you? Are you his dietician? Are you in any way affected by what he eats? | |||
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"We've been to a couple of clubs...quite taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there (their choice, but not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us), so we just wondered ...are there any clubs where the majority in attendance are not massively overweight? Before anyone has a pop (as surely thy will) We aren't models, nor athletic ....but we aren't overweight." Perhaps clubs just aren't for you in this case. | |||
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"Can't be bothered to be offended by op post .will say and expect to get abuse for ,some medications can and do cause Weight gain no matter what a person eats . No they can ; Increase your appetite (through a variety of mechanisms), Slow your metabolism and lower your BMR, Make you lethargic and thus lower your actively consumed calories, But they cannot make matter out of nothing. They're tablets not violators of the conservation of energy principle. *spent 4 or 5 years on 2 medeicstions with "excessive weight gain" as thier main side effect. Also more worryingly "sudden unexplained death" as a very rare side effect on one. Why were you on them if you don't mind me asking " Mental health meds. Joy of interfering with the most loosely understood organs is you tend to fuck up every other system in your body at the same time. Zero motivation to move, persistent hunger (with a sweet tooth like no orher I'd wake up in the night and go eat honey or golden syrup from the jar with a spon) and lower bmr from being sedated. I can see why so many people develop type two diabetes on them sugar was the major part of my diet which obviously crashes fast so you keed more of it. Gotta be a strain on your pancreas | |||
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"OMG just lock us fat people up n throw the key away, Is this what the world is going to be like in the future ? Fat - lock em up Married - lock em up Ugly - lock em up If you're gonna be fat you could at least be jolly." Agreed! You speak a lot of sense mate. Unfortunately the truth hurts and that doesn't sit well with some.... | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? Shocker....it's turned into Dr wolf ryder 'i know everything about you even though I don't know you' fatty special. How presumptuous of you to tell someone they are lying about their diet? Youre right I'm sorry, his hilarious diet plan is so true. Btw did i mention i take 6 brearhs a day. Totally true honest. But that comment you quoted was just a retort to his comment about closing your eyes in reply to my first comment. Witty back and forth. Even of it isn't true what has it got to do with you? Are you his dietician? Are you in any way affected by what he eats? " Is that the criteria for responding to posts on a public forum? Or is there another rule that everyone must agree with everyone? | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? Shocker....it's turned into Dr wolf ryder 'i know everything about you even though I don't know you' fatty special. How presumptuous of you to tell someone they are lying about their diet? Youre right I'm sorry, his hilarious diet plan is so true. Btw did i mention i take 6 brearhs a day. Totally true honest. But that comment you quoted was just a retort to his comment about closing your eyes in reply to my first comment. Witty back and forth. Even of it isn't true what has it got to do with you? Are you his dietician? Are you in any way affected by what he eats? " Cause thats how conversations work? Why are you interested in what i say, are you his mum? Are you in anyway affected by my conversation with him? | |||
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"Can't be bothered to be offended by op post .will say and expect to get abuse for ,some medications can and do cause Weight gain no matter what a person eats . No they can ; Increase your appetite (through a variety of mechanisms), Slow your metabolism and lower your BMR, Make you lethargic and thus lower your actively consumed calories, But they cannot make matter out of nothing. They're tablets not violators of the conservation of energy principle. *spent 4 or 5 years on 2 medeicstions with "excessive weight gain" as thier main side effect. Also more worryingly "sudden unexplained death" as a very rare side effect on one. Why were you on them if you don't mind me asking Mental health meds. Joy of interfering with the most loosely understood organs is you tend to fuck up every other system in your body at the same time. Zero motivation to move, persistent hunger (with a sweet tooth like no orher I'd wake up in the night and go eat honey or golden syrup from the jar with a spon) and lower bmr from being sedated. I can see why so many people develop type two diabetes on them sugar was the major part of my diet which obviously crashes fast so you keed more of it. Gotta be a strain on your pancreas " They come with a load of problems on top of the problem your taking them for ,I know as speak from experience. | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? My size is nothing to do with food, it is down to medication. a slice of brown toast in the morning a small salad for lunch ( no meat or dairy ) a bowl of soup for tea every day I used to use the medication excuse then I decided to stop kidding myself and have so far lost 15 stone " Fucking hell thats impressive How do you cope with cravings? Do you substitute with other things or just sheer will power? Im still bad for raiding the biscuits when im snackish. I try to make nice meals now and experiment, trying to get my mind into thinking that food is an event rathet thsn something foxed quickly from a packet. Will be a bit easier at the end of the year when im living alone so can just not buy much sugary stuff and rely on my lazyness to mean i wont go to the shop :p | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? Shocker....it's turned into Dr wolf ryder 'i know everything about you even though I don't know you' fatty special. How presumptuous of you to tell someone they are lying about their diet? Youre right I'm sorry, his hilarious diet plan is so true. Btw did i mention i take 6 brearhs a day. Totally true honest. But that comment you quoted was just a retort to his comment about closing your eyes in reply to my first comment. Witty back and forth. Even of it isn't true what has it got to do with you? Are you his dietician? Are you in any way affected by what he eats? Is that the criteria for responding to posts on a public forum? Or is there another rule that everyone must agree with everyone? " Never said they had to agree but to out and out call someone a liar when you have no personal interaction with them is out of line in my opinion. | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? My size is nothing to do with food, it is down to medication. a slice of brown toast in the morning a small salad for lunch ( no meat or dairy ) a bowl of soup for tea every day I used to use the medication excuse then I decided to stop kidding myself and have so far lost 15 stone Fucking hell thats impressive How do you cope with cravings? Do you substitute with other things or just sheer will power? Im still bad for raiding the biscuits when im snackish. I try to make nice meals now and experiment, trying to get my mind into thinking that food is an event rathet thsn something foxed quickly from a packet. Will be a bit easier at the end of the year when im living alone so can just not buy much sugary stuff and rely on my lazyness to mean i wont go to the shop :p " Eat dark chocolate instead of milk. I can eat two pieces of dark chocolate and feel satisfied but milk chocolate just makes you crave more and more. Perhaps it's because dark chocolate largely tastes like shit but there's just enough flavour to make you think "yeah that's done now" | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? Shocker....it's turned into Dr wolf ryder 'i know everything about you even though I don't know you' fatty special. How presumptuous of you to tell someone they are lying about their diet? Youre right I'm sorry, his hilarious diet plan is so true. Btw did i mention i take 6 brearhs a day. Totally true honest. But that comment you quoted was just a retort to his comment about closing your eyes in reply to my first comment. Witty back and forth. Even of it isn't true what has it got to do with you? Are you his dietician? Are you in any way affected by what he eats? Is that the criteria for responding to posts on a public forum? Or is there another rule that everyone must agree with everyone? Never said they had to agree but to out and out call someone a liar when you have no personal interaction with them is out of line in my opinion. " Part and parcel of a public forum in mine. You need a bit of thick skin around here. | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? Shocker....it's turned into Dr wolf ryder 'i know everything about you even though I don't know you' fatty special. How presumptuous of you to tell someone they are lying about their diet? Youre right I'm sorry, his hilarious diet plan is so true. Btw did i mention i take 6 brearhs a day. Totally true honest. But that comment you quoted was just a retort to his comment about closing your eyes in reply to my first comment. Witty back and forth. Even of it isn't true what has it got to do with you? Are you his dietician? Are you in any way affected by what he eats? Is that the criteria for responding to posts on a public forum? Or is there another rule that everyone must agree with everyone? Never said they had to agree but to out and out call someone a liar when you have no personal interaction with them is out of line in my opinion. " im sorry but i think if you post something on a public forum that is clearly untrue then you can only expect to be picked up on it.it is completely unhelpful to make a claim like that. | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? Shocker....it's turned into Dr wolf ryder 'i know everything about you even though I don't know you' fatty special. How presumptuous of you to tell someone they are lying about their diet? Youre right I'm sorry, his hilarious diet plan is so true. Btw did i mention i take 6 brearhs a day. Totally true honest. But that comment you quoted was just a retort to his comment about closing your eyes in reply to my first comment. Witty back and forth. Even of it isn't true what has it got to do with you? Are you his dietician? Are you in any way affected by what he eats? Is that the criteria for responding to posts on a public forum? Or is there another rule that everyone must agree with everyone? Never said they had to agree but to out and out call someone a liar when you have no personal interaction with them is out of line in my opinion. " Damn political threads are gonna be a damn sight quieter if people cant call politicians liars. Although i do find it amusing how the first reply to his post (and subsistent ones) that dismissed it was from a larger woman but you ignored that and went for the single guys comment. Trying for the low hanging fruit for an old pitchfork party eh? | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? Shocker....it's turned into Dr wolf ryder 'i know everything about you even though I don't know you' fatty special. How presumptuous of you to tell someone they are lying about their diet? Youre right I'm sorry, his hilarious diet plan is so true. Btw did i mention i take 6 brearhs a day. Totally true honest. But that comment you quoted was just a retort to his comment about closing your eyes in reply to my first comment. Witty back and forth. Even of it isn't true what has it got to do with you? Are you his dietician? Are you in any way affected by what he eats? Is that the criteria for responding to posts on a public forum? Or is there another rule that everyone must agree with everyone? Never said they had to agree but to out and out call someone a liar when you have no personal interaction with them is out of line in my opinion. Part and parcel of a public forum in mine. You need a bit of thick skin around here. " Oh believe me, I've the hide (and outline) of a rhino, just sometimes things fuck me off and I can't stop my fingers from flying Much like B.U.S.S.Y I fear I'm tired and emotional so am off to bed. | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? Shocker....it's turned into Dr wolf ryder 'i know everything about you even though I don't know you' fatty special. How presumptuous of you to tell someone they are lying about their diet? Youre right I'm sorry, his hilarious diet plan is so true. Btw did i mention i take 6 brearhs a day. Totally true honest. But that comment you quoted was just a retort to his comment about closing your eyes in reply to my first comment. Witty back and forth. Even of it isn't true what has it got to do with you? Are you his dietician? Are you in any way affected by what he eats? Is that the criteria for responding to posts on a public forum? Or is there another rule that everyone must agree with everyone? Never said they had to agree but to out and out call someone a liar when you have no personal interaction with them is out of line in my opinion. Part and parcel of a public forum in mine. You need a bit of thick skin around here. Oh believe me, I've the hide (and outline) of a rhino, just sometimes things fuck me off and I can't stop my fingers from flying Much like B.U.S.S.Y I fear I'm tired and emotional so am off to bed." Oh I know you have thick skin!!! It was Mr soup-for-dinner that I was suggesting should work on it... | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? Shocker....it's turned into Dr wolf ryder 'i know everything about you even though I don't know you' fatty special. How presumptuous of you to tell someone they are lying about their diet? Youre right I'm sorry, his hilarious diet plan is so true. Btw did i mention i take 6 brearhs a day. Totally true honest. But that comment you quoted was just a retort to his comment about closing your eyes in reply to my first comment. Witty back and forth. Even of it isn't true what has it got to do with you? Are you his dietician? Are you in any way affected by what he eats? Is that the criteria for responding to posts on a public forum? Or is there another rule that everyone must agree with everyone? Never said they had to agree but to out and out call someone a liar when you have no personal interaction with them is out of line in my opinion. Damn political threads are gonna be a damn sight quieter if people cant call politicians liars. Although i do find it amusing how the first reply to his post (and subsistent ones) that dismissed it was from a larger woman but you ignored that and went for the single guys comment. Trying for the low hanging fruit for an old pitchfork party eh? Wolf Ryder, I salute you. " | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? Shocker....it's turned into Dr wolf ryder 'i know everything about you even though I don't know you' fatty special. How presumptuous of you to tell someone they are lying about their diet? Youre right I'm sorry, his hilarious diet plan is so true. Btw did i mention i take 6 brearhs a day. Totally true honest. But that comment you quoted was just a retort to his comment about closing your eyes in reply to my first comment. Witty back and forth. Even of it isn't true what has it got to do with you? Are you his dietician? Are you in any way affected by what he eats? Is that the criteria for responding to posts on a public forum? Or is there another rule that everyone must agree with everyone? Never said they had to agree but to out and out call someone a liar when you have no personal interaction with them is out of line in my opinion. Damn political threads are gonna be a damn sight quieter if people cant call politicians liars. Although i do find it amusing how the first reply to his post (and subsistent ones) that dismissed it was from a larger woman but you ignored that and went for the single guys comment. Trying for the low hanging fruit for an old pitchfork party eh? " You're right, I concede that I did miss other replies...perhaps it was the delivery of the retort that raised my hackles, who knows but I've said my piece and bid you a good night. | |||
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"does veggie burgers not constitute a food on salads ? I choose to eat this way for the last 2 years due to 4 heart attacks & my size has made me depressed over the years, I didn't say the pills started me being over weight did i, I said that they don't help me now. As for the OP original post, If you go to a night club & they don't play your kind of music ever would you keep paying to go back ? No, then don't moan about what you don't want you have the internet get searching for something you do want." Honestly buddy, diet is the most depressing / unpleasant snd overrated way to lose weight. Much better to enjoy a treat or two but burn a few thousand calories a week via exercise. I know you've probably got bad knees or something but seriously there's an exercise for anyone, even DDP yoga can help you lose weight! | |||
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"wear a blind fold Eat less? My size is nothing to do with food, it is down to medication. a slice of brown toast in the morning a small salad for lunch ( no meat or dairy ) a bowl of soup for tea every day I used to use the medication excuse then I decided to stop kidding myself and have so far lost 15 stone Fucking hell thats impressive How do you cope with cravings? Do you substitute with other things or just sheer will power? Im still bad for raiding the biscuits when im snackish. I try to make nice meals now and experiment, trying to get my mind into thinking that food is an event rathet thsn something foxed quickly from a packet. Will be a bit easier at the end of the year when im living alone so can just not buy much sugary stuff and rely on my lazyness to mean i wont go to the shop :p " I do slimming world, they have some great low syn alternatives. I'll buy slimming world hi Fi bars from group, sugar free jellies, half sugar free jelly and half a yoghurt makes like a sweet mousse that's low calorie, slimming world style Ferrero rocher as good for a choccy fix, but as we've all things that are bad for you they still need eating in moderation so will power is an essential part to my success One thing I've found is good for killing sweet tooth is pickled foods onions, gherkins, beetroot. On slimming world they are also called "speed foods" so are good for boosting the metabolism | |||
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"We've been to a couple of clubs...quite taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there (their choice, but not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us), so we just wondered ...are there any clubs where the majority in attendance are not massively overweight? Before anyone has a pop (as surely thy will) We aren't models, nor athletic ....but we aren't overweight." Wow how nasty can you be!!!! We all have a right to be here!!! Can't help what God gave us!!! | |||
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"What are you taken aback by ? Fat people having fun or the fact you weren't ? I have seen people of all shapes and sizes in clubs. It doesn't bother me what they look like naked. If I find them unattractive, so what ? There is no compulsion to play with them or even socialise with them. It sounds like you who has the problem not them." | |||
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"We've been to a couple of clubs...quite taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there (their choice, but not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us), so we just wondered ...are there any clubs where the majority in attendance are not massively overweight? Before anyone has a pop (as surely thy will) We aren't models, nor athletic ....but we aren't overweight." I'm sorry but was it the fact they were obese or that they were obese and naked, because nakedness happens in clubs. As for massively overweight, having been a size 20, but now not, why shouldn't we be in clubs. (Oh and before you ask - my mum passed away so I lost 4 stone in 4 months), I do not class myself as slim, and my bloke isn't the type I could snap like a twiglet, but we are fun and can socialise with everyone without making any discrimation towards fellow swingers. That's what clubs are for - to speak to new folk, and perhaps to get lucky with people that you get on with. What if it was a club full of skinnys and they had personalities of a wet blanket? That suit better or would there be a cry for a club for people with personality next? Just sayin'... | |||
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"A reflection of the size of people on this site I'd guess Most are overweight so I'd think you'd see the same in any club.. Hence why I haven't been to one.. Ugly guys want to get laid, so do fat lasses.. We all try to punch over our weight.. It's natural.. Lasses will get laid no matter what.. Guys won't - simple " what about the over weight guys too?? It's not just us ladies that get a bit chubby..... | |||
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"that's just rude, on a site yes put preferences as we do and that's who we attract, clubs? open to all and perhaps you go for what you want and others go for what they want, no need for segregation!!!!! So why have BBW nights? Although i do feel while a BBW night works a "slim girls" (is there even an acronym) night would be a disaster as no one would want to risk getting turned away, then there would be a few militant BBW who would go, then the majority of rhe type that would fit in would probbaly bail because its just bound to be a PR disaster" Bbw nights are not solely for bbws, we've been to many where there is diversity of shapes,sizes ethnicity etc,and does it matter??? NO not one little bit, so neither should it if there happened to be a 'slim girls night' as you put it....God forbid any militant bbws arrive | |||
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"OMG just lock us fat people up n throw the key away, Is this what the world is going to be like in the future ? Fat - lock em up Married - lock em up Ugly - lock em up If you're gonna be fat you could at least be jolly." | |||
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"that's just rude, on a site yes put preferences as we do and that's who we attract, clubs? open to all and perhaps you go for what you want and others go for what they want, no need for segregation!!!!! So why have BBW nights? Although i do feel while a BBW night works a "slim girls" (is there even an acronym) night would be a disaster as no one would want to risk getting turned away, then there would be a few militant BBW who would go, then the majority of rhe type that would fit in would probbaly bail because its just bound to be a PR disaster Bbw nights are not solely for bbws, we've been to many where there is diversity of shapes,sizes ethnicity etc,and does it matter??? NO not one little bit, so neither should it if there happened to be a 'slim girls night' as you put it....God forbid any militant bbws arrive " I knew a girl that got thrown out of a Bbw party for being too skinny for their liking | |||
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"We've been to a couple of clubs...quite taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there (their choice, but not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us), so we just wondered ...are there any clubs where the majority in attendance are not massively overweight? Before anyone has a pop (as surely thy will) We aren't models, nor athletic ....but we aren't overweight." If being around fat people is so traumatic for you, might I suggest you look up 'City Slickers'? They have a strict 'no oldies, no fatties, no mingers' policy, so you'll fit right in I'm sure... | |||
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"Why are you being so rude to them? It's a perfectly reasonable question. Or are you hoping all the fatties will send you defending their right to go to clubs (a right that was never in question in the opening post) and fall to their knees open mouthed ready to show how grateful they are? " It's intriguing that a person who organises BBW parties at a popular venue not only sees the OP's question as being 'perfectly reasonable,' but accuses anyone who takes umbridge with the OP as merely trying to 'curry favour' with the 'fatties.' Let us look again at the OP's question: "We've been to a couple of clubs...quite taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there (their choice, but not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us)" Admittedly, there is nothing wrong with stating that you have a particular preference, but the wording of the question implied that the OP views the idea of people like myself participating in swinging activities as 'repulsive.' Furthermore, the OP states that they are looking for a venue where 'the majority are not massively overweight.' That would be, in my experience at least, almost any swingers club that you care to attend. However, there are swingers clubs out there that set height, weight and attractiveness standards for attendees. Given the attitude displayed by the owners of such clubs, the OP's question appears to me to be coded language for 'I want to go to a club that doesn't admit those disgusting fatties.' | |||
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"Why are you being so rude to them? It's a perfectly reasonable question. Or are you hoping all the fatties will send you defending their right to go to clubs (a right that was never in question in the opening post) and fall to their knees open mouthed ready to show how grateful they are? It's intriguing that a person who organises BBW parties at a popular venue not only sees the OP's question as being 'perfectly reasonable,' but accuses anyone who takes umbridge with the OP as merely trying to 'curry favour' with the 'fatties.' Let us look again at the OP's question: "We've been to a couple of clubs...quite taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there (their choice, but not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us)" Admittedly, there is nothing wrong with stating that you have a particular preference, but the wording of the question implied that the OP views the idea of people like myself participating in swinging activities as 'repulsive.' Furthermore, the OP states that they are looking for a venue where 'the majority are not massively overweight.' That would be, in my experience at least, almost any swingers club that you care to attend. However, there are swingers clubs out there that set height, weight and attractiveness standards for attendees. Given the attitude displayed by the owners of such clubs, the OP's question appears to me to be coded language for 'I want to go to a club that doesn't admit those disgusting fatties.'" Thats your inference not thiers. So given your attitude i csn only assume "bbw night" is coded language for "a night where the club doesnt ket those disgusting stick insects in" Am i doing it right? | |||
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"they haven't said you shouldn't be there, they have actually said they shouldn't be there and are seeking somewhere better for them...." True, they didn't explicitly state that us fat people don't have a right to be there...they merely implied that the site of us participating in swinging is repulsive to them. They could have just said 'does anyone know of any swingers clubs that cater for 'average' people? Their original comment is rather like me making a statement like: "I went to my local swingers club and was rather taken aback by the number of naked, wrinkly old pensioners in attendance. Anyone know where I can find a club full of fit, attractive young people?" Just because someone doesn't dismiss a person's right to attend in those exact words, doesn't mean that such a message is not implied by the choice of words employed. | |||
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"Thats your inference not thiers. So given your attitude I can only assume "bbw night" is coded language for "a night where the club doesnt ket those disgusting stick insects in" Am i doing it right?" No. As I am sure Evie will confirm, BBW nights at Chams are AIMED at larger people; it is not, however, forbidden for 'non-BBWs' to attend such events. Similarly, there are clubs that organise 'Black Man Fan Club' parties, but they do not refuse entry to people of other ethnic groups. The kind of clubs that the OP appears to be seeking out, however, are those which request a member to submit their height, weight, body type, age and other characteristics, so as to ensure that only the conventionally 'beautiful' are admitted. | |||
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"Why are you being so rude to them? It's a perfectly reasonable question. Or are you hoping all the fatties will send you defending their right to go to clubs (a right that was never in question in the opening post) and fall to their knees open mouthed ready to show how grateful they are? It's intriguing that a person who organises BBW parties at a popular venue not only sees the OP's question as being 'perfectly reasonable,' but accuses anyone who takes umbridge with the OP as merely trying to 'curry favour' with the 'fatties.' Let us look again at the OP's question: "We've been to a couple of clubs...quite taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there (their choice, but not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us)" Admittedly, there is nothing wrong with stating that you have a particular preference, but the wording of the question implied that the OP views the idea of people like myself participating in swinging activities as 'repulsive.' Furthermore, the OP states that they are looking for a venue where 'the majority are not massively overweight.' That would be, in my experience at least, almost any swingers club that you care to attend. However, there are swingers clubs out there that set height, weight and attractiveness standards for attendees. Given the attitude displayed by the owners of such clubs, the OP's question appears to me to be coded language for 'I want to go to a club that doesn't admit those disgusting fatties.'" How do you get "repulsive" from "not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us"? | |||
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"How do you get "repulsive" from "not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us"? " I didn't: I got it from their use of their claiming to have been: "taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there." The use of the phrase 'taken aback' suggests a sense of having been 'embarrassed,' 'shocked,' 'disconcerted' or 'repulsed.' Second, they explicitly state that it was the mere presence of the 'obese naked people' that inspired that negativity. Does that clarify things? | |||
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"It's been mixed when I've been out to clubs - the same place can reflect a different profile of user one day to the next. But I've not been to one where it's largely obese. Do they offer unlimited bread and dripping, a huge chocolate fountain that flows forever etc? " If they do, I need to know about it! | |||
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"How do you get "repulsive" from "not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us"? I didn't: I got it from their use of their claiming to have been: "taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there." The use of the phrase 'taken aback' suggests a sense of having been 'embarrassed,' 'shocked,' 'disconcerted' or 'repulsed.' Second, they explicitly state that it was the mere presence of the 'obese naked people' that inspired that negativity. Does that clarify things? " It does, I don't agree with your interpretation of their words but it clarifies how you came to your conclusion. Thank you. | |||
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"The op won't be able to change what they find a turn on. They haven't said bigger people are nasty or have disagreeable personal traits or that they want nothing to do with them in their every day life though." When I go to a swingers club, I don't expect to be aroused by every person there, or expect every person there to be interested in me. Following on your line of thinking, why can't the OP simply 'focus on the people they find attractive' while accepting the right of their local venue to allow 'obese' people to attend their events? And no, they haven't said that bigger people have 'nasty personality traits;' they've just implied that the mere presence of such people is enough to prevent them from enjoying attending a club, | |||
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"How do you get "repulsive" from "not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us"? I didn't: I got it from their use of their claiming to have been: "taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there." The use of the phrase 'taken aback' suggests a sense of having been 'embarrassed,' 'shocked,' 'disconcerted' or 'repulsed.' Second, they explicitly state that it was the mere presence of the 'obese naked people' that inspired that negativity. Does that clarify things? It does, I don't agree with your interpretation of their words but it clarifies how you came to your conclusion. Thank you." It's nothing to do with 'interpretation.' To say that you're 'taken aback' by something is to imply shock, disapproval or disgust. | |||
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"The op won't be able to change what they find a turn on. They haven't said bigger people are nasty or have disagreeable personal traits or that they want nothing to do with them in their every day life though. When I go to a swingers club, I don't expect to be aroused by every person there, or expect every person there to be interested in me. Following on your line of thinking, why can't the OP simply 'focus on the people they find attractive' while accepting the right of their local venue to allow 'obese' people to attend their events? And no, they haven't said that bigger people have 'nasty personality traits;' they've just implied that the mere presence of such people is enough to prevent them from enjoying attending a club," They also didn't say they wanted no overweight people there...just somewhere where overweight people aren't the majority! | |||
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"that's just rude, on a site yes put preferences as we do and that's who we attract, clubs? open to all and perhaps you go for what you want and others go for what they want, no need for segregation!!!!! So why have BBW nights? Although i do feel while a BBW night works a "slim girls" (is there even an acronym) night would be a disaster as no one would want to risk getting turned away, then there would be a few militant BBW who would go, then the majority of rhe type that would fit in would probbaly bail because its just bound to be a PR disaster Slim women are always welcome at any bbw night I arrange. The club stays open for all members but I hold a guest list of people who are allowed to attend under my membership. No discrimination, I have had size 10's request to be on my guest list. By having a night where you know people are going to be interested in larger ladies they feel more comfortable and secure in the knowledge that they are less likely to receive abuse for being there (I know from personal experience that this happens) " Also why do people assume BBW nights are only for men that want to meet BBW ladies. Women might want to meet them too. | |||
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"We've been to a couple of clubs...quite taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there (their choice, but not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us), so we just wondered ...are there any clubs where the majority in attendance are not massively overweight? Before anyone has a pop (as surely thy will) We aren't models, nor athletic ....but we aren't overweight." I think Leboudoir is one which is selective | |||
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"that's just rude, on a site yes put preferences as we do and that's who we attract, clubs? open to all and perhaps you go for what you want and others go for what they want, no need for segregation!!!!! So why have BBW nights? Although i do feel while a BBW night works a "slim girls" (is there even an acronym) night would be a disaster as no one would want to risk getting turned away, then there would be a few militant BBW who would go, then the majority of rhe type that would fit in would probbaly bail because its just bound to be a PR disaster Bbw nights are not solely for bbws, we've been to many where there is diversity of shapes,sizes ethnicity etc,and does it matter??? NO not one little bit, so neither should it if there happened to be a 'slim girls night' as you put it....God forbid any militant bbws arrive I knew a girl that got thrown out of a Bbw party for being too skinny for their liking " Can guarantee you it wasn't one of mine. | |||
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"How do you get "repulsive" from "not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us"? I didn't: I got it from their use of their claiming to have been: "taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there." The use of the phrase 'taken aback' suggests a sense of having been 'embarrassed,' 'shocked,' 'disconcerted' or 'repulsed.' Second, they explicitly state that it was the mere presence of the 'obese naked people' that inspired that negativity. Does that clarify things? " I would be more than merely, "taken aback" if some 100+ kg bloke wanted to get on top of me; I would actually "suffocate"; not my idea of "fun" | |||
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"We've been to a couple of clubs...quite taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there (their choice, but not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us), so we just wondered ...are there any clubs where the majority in attendance are not massively overweight? Before anyone has a pop (as surely thy will) We aren't models, nor athletic ....but we aren't overweight. The average is overweight nowadays. The exception are not. Good luck finding a club that excludes average people. Gay sauna? Pretty sure that excludes that statistical average of the pppulation." Nope. They don't exclude fatties. | |||
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"Why are you being so rude to them? It's a perfectly reasonable question. Or are you hoping all the fatties will send you defending their right to go to clubs (a right that was never in question in the opening post) and fall to their knees open mouthed ready to show how grateful they are? It's intriguing that a person who organises BBW parties at a popular venue not only sees the OP's question as being 'perfectly reasonable,' but accuses anyone who takes umbridge with the OP as merely trying to 'curry favour' with the 'fatties.' Let us look again at the OP's question: "We've been to a couple of clubs...quite taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there (their choice, but not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us)" Admittedly, there is nothing wrong with stating that you have a particular preference, but the wording of the question implied that the OP views the idea of people like myself participating in swinging activities as 'repulsive.' Furthermore, the OP states that they are looking for a venue where 'the majority are not massively overweight.' That would be, in my experience at least, almost any swingers club that you care to attend. However, there are swingers clubs out there that set height, weight and attractiveness standards for attendees. Given the attitude displayed by the owners of such clubs, the OP's question appears to me to be coded language for 'I want to go to a club that doesn't admit those disgusting fatties.'" You interpret it one way, I interpret it another. It's no different to thread where bbw's post that they are worried everyone in a swingers club will be skinny and no one will want to play with them so ask for places where larger people are more accepted. That thread will receive platitudes and lots of positive replies. My de-coding of the op was that whilst they were shocked at how many overweight people were at said club, they didn't say they had no right to be there, they were just asking if there were any clubs that offered something more to their taste. As for my accusations, I am tired of seeing white Knights gallop in on their mighty steeds defending the honour of the big women, often by being nasty to whoever dares to say that fat people don't put lead in their pencil. Just because I am fat and arrange (very successful) bbw nights doesn't mean I have to suffer these type of posts and it doesn't mean that I have to take offence at any thread where someone suggests that they don't like big people. I have spoken to more than one or two people at chams who have turned up not realising it was a bbw night and, not being interested in big women have bot enjoyed their time there. I would rather people be polite and honest in this way than just shag foe the sake of a shag or be rude and say we shouldn't be there. | |||
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"How do you get "repulsive" from "not aesthetically pleasing/erotic to us"? I didn't: I got it from their use of their claiming to have been: "taken aback at the amount of obese naked people there." The use of the phrase 'taken aback' suggests a sense of having been 'embarrassed,' 'shocked,' 'disconcerted' or 'repulsed.' Second, they explicitly state that it was the mere presence of the 'obese naked people' that inspired that negativity. Does that clarify things? It does, I don't agree with your interpretation of their words but it clarifies how you came to your conclusion. Thank you. It's nothing to do with 'interpretation.' To say that you're 'taken aback' by something is to imply shock, disapproval or disgust." We will just have to agree to differ then. | |||
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"The op won't be able to change what they find a turn on. They haven't said bigger people are nasty or have disagreeable personal traits or that they want nothing to do with them in their every day life though. When I go to a swingers club, I don't expect to be aroused by every person there, or expect every person there to be interested in me. Following on your line of thinking, why can't the OP simply 'focus on the people they find attractive' while accepting the right of their local venue to allow 'obese' people to attend their events? And no, they haven't said that bigger people have 'nasty personality traits;' they've just implied that the mere presence of such people is enough to prevent them from enjoying attending a club," They have accepted the right of their local venue to allow obese people to attend. They are simply asking if there's anywhere they can go that does fulfil their requirements. Like it or not they have a right to ask the question. | |||
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"You could try an exclusive party, as others have suggested, such as killing kittens or Heaven SX but there is always the risk that you may not be accepted as membership to these can be selective. Otherwise Le Boudoir in Whitechapel has developed a reputation for having membership policy against obesity. " They are too old | |||
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"Is that question for fucking real ?" I know, right? On a related note I'm not particularly attracted to other men, is there a club I can go to where I won't have to see any? | |||
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"that's just rude, on a site yes put preferences as we do and that's who we attract, clubs? open to all and perhaps you go for what you want and others go for what they want, no need for segregation!!!!! So why have BBW nights? Although i do feel while a BBW night works a "slim girls" (is there even an acronym) night would be a disaster as no one would want to risk getting turned away, then there would be a few militant BBW who would go, then the majority of rhe type that would fit in would probbaly bail because its just bound to be a PR disaster Bbw nights are not solely for bbws, we've been to many where there is diversity of shapes,sizes ethnicity etc,and does it matter??? NO not one little bit, so neither should it if there happened to be a 'slim girls night' as you put it....God forbid any militant bbws arrive I knew a girl that got thrown out of a Bbw party for being too skinny for their liking " I guess the men wanted more meat on the end of their bone... Thank you, I'm here all week | |||
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"The OP have been on here for over a year and have only 1 veri from a year ago. They have no personal pictures and a profile text that is all about them and what they want. They seem to have avoided the opportunity of going to the home of non-obese people for a meet or selecting non-obese people to meet them in a hotel. I would suggest that it is likely one part of the couple does not want to join in the lifestyle but has been badgered into it and uses the "ew yuck! They are so grossly obese!! I want to go home" excuse to avoid playing. " True | |||
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"that's just rude, on a site yes put preferences as we do and that's who we attract, clubs? open to all and perhaps you go for what you want and others go for what they want, no need for segregation!!!!!" | |||
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"A reflection of the size of people on this site I'd guess Most are overweight so I'd think you'd see the same in any club.. Hence why I haven't been to one.. Ugly guys want to get laid, so do fat lasses.. We all try to punch over our weight.. It's natural.. Lasses will get laid no matter what.. Guys won't - simple And ugly personalities wank a lot - it's a funny old world. " | |||
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"It's a reflection of our society and lifestyle. We as a nation were at our most healthy just after the Second World War. These days we have everything made so easy for us in terms of none manual labour and more calorific treats that everyone has easier access to. We as a nation have greatly reduced our calorie output while increasing our calorie intake, result a nation of overweight people. I am a Personal Trainer and every single one of my clients at the moment are with me in order to lose weight. Clubs are a reflection of society. If when you window shop you don't like the look of the goods, then don't go in, simplz. " Forgive the nitpicking, but BMI doesn't automatically equate to health - and the whole reason there was political will to create the NHS in the postwar period was because the severity of childhood illnesses, epidemics, respiratory illnesses, industrial injuries and conditions caused by malnutrition had reached crisis levels. So definitely not the healthiest generation by a long shot! | |||
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"that's just rude, on a site yes put preferences as we do and that's who we attract, clubs? open to all and perhaps you go for what you want and others go for what they want, no need for segregation!!!!! It's not rude. They aren't saying that fat people shouldn't be there, they are saying they are nor turned on by fat people and so wish to socialise in places where they are more likely to be aroused. Absolutely nothing rude about that. " | |||
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"Fat Obese guy here & i am only on here for friendship, I found they way it was put across offensive. " Hence your reaction... | |||
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"they haven't said you shouldn't be there, they have actually said they shouldn't be there and are seeking somewhere better for them.... True, they didn't explicitly state that us fat people don't have a right to be there...they merely implied that the site of us participating in swinging is repulsive to them. They could have just said 'does anyone know of any swingers clubs that cater for 'average' people? Their original comment is rather like me making a statement like: "I went to my local swingers club and was rather taken aback by the number of naked, wrinkly old pensioners in attendance. Anyone know where I can find a club full of fit, attractive young people?" Just because someone doesn't dismiss a person's right to attend in those exact words, doesn't mean that such a message is not implied by the choice of words employed." Funny but I didn't read the word repulsive anywhere in the OP you only chose to take it that way and be offended. | |||
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"OMG just lock us fat people up n throw the key away, Is this what the world is going to be like in the future ? Fat - lock em up Married - lock em up Ugly - lock em up If you're gonna be fat you could at least be jolly." He clearly isn't happy with his weight... | |||
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"It's a reflection of our society and lifestyle. We as a nation were at our most healthy just after the Second World War. These days we have everything made so easy for us in terms of none manual labour and more calorific treats that everyone has easier access to. We as a nation have greatly reduced our calorie output while increasing our calorie intake, result a nation of overweight people. I am a Personal Trainer and every single one of my clients at the moment are with me in order to lose weight. Clubs are a reflection of society. If when you window shop you don't like the look of the goods, then don't go in, simplz. Forgive the nitpicking, but BMI doesn't automatically equate to health - and the whole reason there was political will to create the NHS in the postwar period was because the severity of childhood illnesses, epidemics, respiratory illnesses, industrial injuries and conditions caused by malnutrition had reached crisis levels. So definitely not the healthiest generation by a long shot! " Where did you see me mention BMI? Don't put words in my mouth. | |||
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"funny, but I didn't read the word repulsive anywhere in the OP you only chose to take it that way and be offended." As I have already explained quite clearly, and to the satisfaction of the previous poster who questioned me: The idiom 'taken aback' implies a feeling of discomfort, shock, disgust or revulsion. In addition, the OP made it clear that their being 'taken aback' was specifically because of their being confronted by the presence of a large number of 'naked, obese people.' The OP did not use the particular word, but neither did I simply 'choose' to interpret the comment in a particular way. | |||
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"1. Average Joes don't need 'specialist events' or 'specialist clubs' in order to feel accepted and valued as swingers, because they don't go through life being made to feel ashamed of their appearance, or 'unworthy' of being considered attractive. 2. The very fact that the OP was 'shocked' by the number of overweight people in attendance betrays the opinion that said people had no right to be there. 3. I couldn't care less if my size puts lead in someone's pencil or not. Accusing someone of 'white knighting' is little more than a cheap trick to dodge legitimate criticism. The fact remains that when a fat person enters a swingers club on anything other than a 'BBW Night,' they are often treated as a pariah by a section of the guests. 4. No-one is saying that you're ''obliged" to take offence, or demanding that 'fat people' should be given a shag for the sake of it. The point being made is that it's rather surprising to see the promoter of a high-profile BBW-themed event stating that they have 'no issue' with 'Elite Parties' especially when the organisers of said parties have publicly described BBWs as 'ugly' 'lazy' and 'disgusting.' " Im never been made to feel like a 'pariah' I even went to an 'elite' club... I wasn't turned away and I was spoken to by everyone I spoke to, I didn't play as I wasn't to that groups particular taste but so did some of the single men and some couples. I know it's shit feeling rubbish and ashamed of the way you look but youre attitude will play a big part in how others see you. Same for the op.... maybe try talking to some of these people... you'll be surprised how personality can sometimes change the way you see someone physically. | |||
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"funny, but I didn't read the word repulsive anywhere in the OP you only chose to take it that way and be offended. As I have already explained quite clearly, and to the satisfaction of the previous poster who questioned me: The idiom 'taken aback' implies a feeling of discomfort, shock, disgust or revulsion. In addition, the OP made it clear that their being 'taken aback' was specifically because of their being confronted by the presence of a large number of 'naked, obese people.' The OP did not use the particular word, but neither did I simply 'choose' to interpret the comment in a particular way." You missed my point completely. Im overweight I never got that implication that it means I'm repulsive because I chose not to, you chose to take offence to the OP you also chose to put words into the OPs mouth with said implication. I find it really interesting that it's overweight men seem to be taking the main offence to the OP | |||
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"I know it's shit feeling rubbish and ashamed of the way you look but youre attitude will play a big part in how others see you. Same for the op....maybe try talking to some of these people...you'll be surprised how personality can sometimes change the way you see someone physically." Oh, so it's my attitude that's the problem? So when the owner of an elite club tells me that I'm too 'fat, ugly and stupid' to attend their events; or when someone calls me a 'fat cunt' for defending another user's right to be on the site; or when I receive abusive messages telling me that I don't look like a 'real man,' I should just 'put up and shut up?' Truth be told, the majority of clubs and club members that I've talked to have been all too open and welcoming, but I'll be damned if I'll be branded a 'White Knight' for arguing that EVERYONE should be allowed to participate in swinging, regardless of their physical appearance. You don't want to play with me? Fair enough, that's perfectly fine. Just don't frame it in terms of 'sorry hun, but I don't fuck fatties.' | |||
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