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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

*safe sex police stay out of this please*

I'm looking for some clarification.

A non-swinging friend was totally shocked when she learned I would allow trusted guys to cum inside my partner. Not because of the STI risks; her concern is that "unusual" and "new" cum from someone else will cause thrush and other problems.

From my limited knowledge; the vagina is naturally acidic and semen is alkaline. Thrush is caused by fungus and likes alkaline. To my reasoning if she was prone to thrush, any semen would trigger it; yes?

The only logical argument I could think of is. The fungus is also carried by guys; if she was "infected" by a carrier cumming inside her and the environment was optimal it would result in an outbreak.

Forum fairies I leave it to you to provide some educated advice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"*safe sex police stay out of this please*

I'm looking for some clarification.

A non-swinging friend was totally shocked when she learned I would allow trusted guys to cum inside my partner. Not because of the STI risks; her concern is that "unusual" and "new" cum from someone else will cause thrush and other problems.

From my limited knowledge; the vagina is naturally acidic and semen is alkaline. Thrush is caused by fungus and likes alkaline. To my reasoning if she was prone to thrush, any semen would trigger it; yes?

The only logical argument I could think of is. The fungus is also carried by guys; if she was "infected" by a carrier cumming inside her and the environment was optimal it would result in an outbreak.

Forum fairies I leave it to you to provide some educated advice. "

There is not much to say if "safe sex police" are banned, is there?

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

Thrush is easily treated with over the counter medicine, why worry.

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By *eanut Butter CupWoman  over a year ago

B & M Bargains

I recall being told by some medical type person that a new partner could cause thrush, but then it may have just been the difference in having no sex to actually having sex that they were getting at

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Changing sexual partners is associated with BV.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple  over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

The first thing here is that Thrush is NOT an STI and cannot be passed from one partner to another (although guys can get some mild irritation after sex with a sufferer).

Many things can kick off a yeast infection in someone who is prone to Thrush. Unprotected sex alone wouldn't kick thrush off but if someone is already infected and as an active phase of thrush, then penetration in general may irritate the infection further. I have heard of women saying that semen has made their thrush worse and thinking logically, I can see why you would think semen could kick off a thrush outbreak, but I would say it would only happen in someone who is already developing an outbreak as it would be an irritant.

The main thing that people REALLY need to be aware of with thrush is that it thrives in the rectum and therefore any bum play with a finger or penis, should not precede vaginal play without washing or a change of finger/condom as it can be really easily transmitted from one area to another. This is more for those who are known carriers and get outbreaks quite regular; this is why us gals should be wiping front to back and not back to front when we've been to the toilet.

So to answer your question, no, semen wouldn't kick off a new infection but I could see it exacerbating a current or growing infection.

Hope this helps

xx

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By *edheadsruleCouple  over a year ago

lancashire

See you learn something new everyday , I know you can get thrush for no apparent reason but always thought you could catch it through intercourse

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"See you learn something new everyday , I know you can get thrush for no apparent reason but always thought you could catch it through intercourse "

Doctors recommend treating both partners in the event of persistent or recurrent infection, so it would appear there is some basis for the belief....also it appears that uncircumcised men get yeast infections more than circumcised, so the risk may be higher with uncut men.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple  over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool


"See you learn something new everyday , I know you can get thrush for no apparent reason but always thought you could catch it through intercourse "

Yes a lot of people think the same. A woman can actually continue to have sex through a thrush outbreak, although I can't see many wanting to as 1/it would sting and just irritate the area tens times worse and 2/ it's quite unsightly if it's not under control! If a guy has unprotected sex with a woman with active thrush, he may just get a red penis and maybe slight itching for a short time afterwards. Similarly though, I can't see many men wanting to have sex with a woman who obviously has thrush!!

Men who do get these mild symptoms are often asked to take treatment for thrush but it's actually so they don't pass it back to the woman more than treating themselves. I am more of a mind though that a re-infection of thrush is down to having sex too soon when the infection has not completely cleared and kicking it off again.

There have been rare cases when a guy has reported an outbreak of thrush after having sex with a woman who also has thrush, but it is thought that they have had thrush prior to this and it has been triggered.

So even though there have been cases of thrush being passed between partners, it is often found that both have had thrush before and it is simply sparking a new outbreak. Despite this, thrush is not classed as an STI.

xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

When hubby cums inside me it seems to irritate and cause thrush yet my long term lover doesn't?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"See you learn something new everyday , I know you can get thrush for no apparent reason but always thought you could catch it through intercourse

Yes a lot of people think the same. A woman can actually continue to have sex through a thrush outbreak, although I can't see many wanting to as 1/it would sting and just irritate the area tens times worse and 2/ it's quite unsightly if it's not under control! If a guy has unprotected sex with a woman with active thrush, he may just get a red penis and maybe slight itching for a short time afterwards. Similarly though, I can't see many men wanting to have sex with a woman who obviously has thrush!!

Men who do get these mild symptoms are often asked to take treatment for thrush but it's actually so they don't pass it back to the woman more than treating themselves. I am more of a mind though that a re-infection of thrush is down to having sex too soon when the infection has not completely cleared and kicking it off again.

There have been rare cases when a guy has reported an outbreak of thrush after having sex with a woman who also has thrush, but it is thought that they have had thrush prior to this and it has been triggered.

So even though there have been cases of thrush being passed between partners, it is often found that both have had thrush before and it is simply sparking a new outbreak. Despite this, thrush is not classed as an STI.

xxx

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I had repeated outbreaks of thrush for the last several years of my marriage - since my marriage ended, I have never had thrush again.....go figure

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By *enard ArgenteMan  over a year ago

London and France

No, semen does not cause Thrush.

It is possible that thrush can be transmitted between sexual partners.

However basic hygiene ( ie normal bathing) reduces risks to minimal.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When hubby cums inside me it seems to irritate and cause thrush yet my long term lover doesn't?"

You're allergic to your husband

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Connected to the hpv virus too x

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple  over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool


"When hubby cums inside me it seems to irritate and cause thrush yet my long term lover doesn't?"

Yes, look this up. There are cases where women are sensitive to the sperm of certain people. Without going into too much detail, I was actually slightly allergic to my ex's sperm and it would itch like mad!!!! It is to do with the pH levels. The best thing you can do if the itching is bad, is use a feminine wash which balances pH levels again and it's great actually for day to day washing and keeps your foo nice and irritation free.

Look up 'Reaction to Sperm' on google and it will tell you more

xxx

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple  over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool


"Connected to the hpv virus too x"

Thrush linked to HPV or unprotected sex?!

HPV does not cause thrush. If someone has a high risk HPV with abnormal cells, then invasive treatment and subsequent topical creams can change the pH of the vagina and kick off thrush but the HPV doesn't cause thrush.

If you meant that having unprotected sex with ejaculation can cause HPV, then yes. The more sexual partners a woman has (unprotected sex with ejaculation), the higher the risk becomes of contracting HPV which is an STI and which is linked to cervical cancer.

My knowledge is being tested tonight!! lol

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

It may not be classed as an sti as it is not found in the semen as far as I know, but it is a 'colonisation' of surface tissues and so can definitely be passed on by direct contact, genital or oral, as well as the act of sex causing a flare up of a pre-existing condition.

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By *XHNHWoman  over a year ago

Stokeish...


"When hubby cums inside me it seems to irritate and cause thrush yet my long term lover doesn't?

Yes, look this up. There are cases where women are sensitive to the sperm of certain people. Without going into too much detail, I was actually slightly allergic to my ex's sperm and it would itch like mad!!!! It is to do with the pH levels. The best thing you can do if the itching is bad, is use a feminine wash which balances pH levels again and it's great actually for day to day washing and keeps your foo nice and irritation free.

Look up 'Reaction to Sperm' on google and it will tell you more

xxx"

I'm sure I had this to my long term ex and would often feel like I was getting burning afterwards, despite no obvious cause and being tested for everything going

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple  over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool


"It may not be classed as an sti as it is not found in the semen as far as I know, but it is a 'colonisation' of surface tissues and so can definitely be passed on by direct contact, genital or oral, as well as the act of sex causing a flare up of a pre-existing condition. "

Exactly....a flare of a pre-existing condition. Sex doesn't transmit Thrush as a new infection, it can trigger a pre existing infection...therefore not an STI xx

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"It may not be classed as an sti as it is not found in the semen as far as I know, but it is a 'colonisation' of surface tissues and so can definitely be passed on by direct contact, genital or oral, as well as the act of sex causing a flare up of a pre-existing condition.

Exactly....a flare of a pre-existing condition. Sex doesn't transmit Thrush as a new infection, it can trigger a pre existing infection...therefore not an STI xx"

But sex CAN transmit a new infection.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

my ex got a bad case of thrush off me, his dick went red and cracked up and he needed treatment. i didn't have any symptoms.

we were fucking loads at the time though so i'm not surprised.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple  over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool


"my ex got a bad case of thrush off me, his dick went red and cracked up and he needed treatment. i didn't have any symptoms.

we were fucking loads at the time though so i'm not surprised."

You broke his cock ya horny bugger!! pmsl

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"my ex got a bad case of thrush off me, his dick went red and cracked up and he needed treatment. i didn't have any symptoms.

we were fucking loads at the time though so i'm not surprised.

You broke his cock ya horny bugger!! pmsl "

haha, it was worth it.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple  over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool


"It may not be classed as an sti as it is not found in the semen as far as I know, but it is a 'colonisation' of surface tissues and so can definitely be passed on by direct contact, genital or oral, as well as the act of sex causing a flare up of a pre-existing condition.

Exactly....a flare of a pre-existing condition. Sex doesn't transmit Thrush as a new infection, it can trigger a pre existing infection...therefore not an STI xx

But sex CAN transmit a new infection."

Like I said above, yes you can but it is very rare to transmit a NEW infection. If this happens it is usually in someone who is already immuno compromised .

I'll tell you a story about a standard day in my midwife surgery...it's funny.

One of my ladies was suffering quite badly towards the end of her pregnancy and needed quite a lot of support. Her partner wasn't very sympathetic to be honest and kept going on about his itchy 'bits'. I had my back to him as I was over by my medical couch listening to baby and feeling baby's position and generally chatting about birth stuff with my lady.

The partner was obviously quite concerned about his 'itchy bits' because when I turned around he had his jeans by his knees and was about to get his cock out to show me!! I was like 'Nooooo!!!' I'm a midwife, not a nurse put it away!!! Anyway, I saw enough in that split second to see that he had thrush as he stuffed his itchy bit's back into his Calvin Kleins!! His partner was mortified!!! Anyway, I managed to get the nurse next door to see him there and then, just to get him sorted! lol

It wasn't even a pretty cock!!! EYE BLEACH!!! pmsl

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"It may not be classed as an sti as it is not found in the semen as far as I know, but it is a 'colonisation' of surface tissues and so can definitely be passed on by direct contact, genital or oral, as well as the act of sex causing a flare up of a pre-existing condition.

Exactly....a flare of a pre-existing condition. Sex doesn't transmit Thrush as a new infection, it can trigger a pre existing infection...therefore not an STI xx

But sex CAN transmit a new infection.

Like I said above, yes you can but it is very rare to transmit a NEW infection. If this happens it is usually in someone who is already immuno compromised .

"

But not always.....and of course antibiotics may render someone more susceptable to fungal infections.

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By *iss_AvaWoman  over a year ago

Dundee


"It may not be classed as an sti as it is not found in the semen as far as I know, but it is a 'colonisation' of surface tissues and so can definitely be passed on by direct contact, genital or oral, as well as the act of sex causing a flare up of a pre-existing condition.

Exactly....a flare of a pre-existing condition. Sex doesn't transmit Thrush as a new infection, it can trigger a pre existing infection...therefore not an STI xx

But sex CAN transmit a new infection.

Like I said above, yes you can but it is very rare to transmit a NEW infection. If this happens it is usually in someone who is already immuno compromised .

But not always.....and of course antibiotics may render someone more susceptable to fungal infections."

Every time I get antibiotics from the doc, he gives me a thrush treatment as well. 9 times out of 10 I'll get thrush because of the antibiotics. It's the only time I have it, apart from when I was pregnant. I had thrush constantly with my 2 pregnancies.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Connected to the hpv virus too x

Thrush linked to HPV or unprotected sex?!

HPV does not cause thrush. If someone has a high risk HPV with abnormal cells, then invasive treatment and subsequent topical creams can change the pH of the vagina and kick off thrush but the HPV doesn't cause thrush.

If you meant that having unprotected sex with ejaculation can cause HPV, then yes. The more sexual partners a woman has (unprotected sex with ejaculation), the higher the risk becomes of contracting HPV which is an STI and which is linked to cervical cancer.

My knowledge is being tested tonight!! lol "

Yes I had to have a cone biopsy and lazer treatment and have to have yearly smear tests for next 10 years was told it could be a result of being promiscuous but also its a virus that just some women have and no it's NOT an std and any woman who has gone thru it knows it's not a nice thing to go through and the procedure for a cone biopsy and lazer treatment isn't a nice experience, wouldn't wish it on anyone and just glad I had my kids when I did as the treatment I had can make carrying a baby more difficult and you are more prone to miscarriage x

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple  over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool


"It may not be classed as an sti as it is not found in the semen as far as I know, but it is a 'colonisation' of surface tissues and so can definitely be passed on by direct contact, genital or oral, as well as the act of sex causing a flare up of a pre-existing condition.

Exactly....a flare of a pre-existing condition. Sex doesn't transmit Thrush as a new infection, it can trigger a pre existing infection...therefore not an STI xx

But sex CAN transmit a new infection.

Like I said above, yes you can but it is very rare to transmit a NEW infection. If this happens it is usually in someone who is already immuno compromised .

But not always.....and of course antibiotics may render someone more susceptable to fungal infections.

Every time I get antibiotics from the doc, he gives me a thrush treatment as well. 9 times out of 10 I'll get thrush because of the antibiotics. It's the only time I have it, apart from when I was pregnant. I had thrush constantly with my 2 pregnancies. "

Yup antibiotics are shocking for kicking off thrush...certain ones more than others. Once you've had thrush through antibotics, the chances of you getting it each time are really high. It's a bloody miserable infection too. Nothing worse than an itchy/irritable foo, right on top of just getting over an infection that needed antibiotics. It sucks

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By *lueStarSkyWoman  over a year ago

Narnia

Thrush is caused by a fungal infection called Candida Albicans. It lives happily on our skin and body as part of our normal flora, when someone becomes immunosupressed or compromised that's where thrush comes in and causes problems. It is not an STI, just opportunistic bugs making a nuisance of themselves. Proper hygeine and abstaining from sex with active infection and the use of anti fungal treatment will do the trick. We get thrush from antibiotics because the abx are destroying the bacteria for which they were prescribed and as clever as abx are they cannot differentiate between good and bad bacteria. Taking probiotics and eating natural yoghurt helps stop any nasty side effects.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple  over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool


"Thrush is caused by a fungal infection called Candida Albicans. It lives happily on our skin and body as part of our normal flora, when someone becomes immunosupressed or compromised that's where thrush comes in and causes problems. It is not an STI, just opportunistic bugs making a nuisance of themselves. Proper hygeine and abstaining from sex with active infection and the use of anti fungal treatment will do the trick. We get thrush from antibiotics because the abx are destroying the bacteria for which they were prescribed and as clever as abx are they cannot differentiate between good and bad bacteria. Taking probiotics and eating natural yoghurt helps stop any nasty side effects. "

Our gorgeous scientist buddy

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By *lueStarSkyWoman  over a year ago

Narnia


"Thrush is caused by a fungal infection called Candida Albicans. It lives happily on our skin and body as part of our normal flora, when someone becomes immunosupressed or compromised that's where thrush comes in and causes problems. It is not an STI, just opportunistic bugs making a nuisance of themselves. Proper hygeine and abstaining from sex with active infection and the use of anti fungal treatment will do the trick. We get thrush from antibiotics because the abx are destroying the bacteria for which they were prescribed and as clever as abx are they cannot differentiate between good and bad bacteria. Taking probiotics and eating natural yoghurt helps stop any nasty side effects.

Our gorgeous scientist buddy "

Haha! Why thank you, *takes a bow* :p

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It may not be classed as an sti as it is not found in the semen as far as I know, but it is a 'colonisation' of surface tissues and so can definitely be passed on by direct contact, genital or oral, as well as the act of sex causing a flare up of a pre-existing condition.

Exactly....a flare of a pre-existing condition. Sex doesn't transmit Thrush as a new infection, it can trigger a pre existing infection...therefore not an STI xx"

Thrush can be passed on via sex. It isn't an sti but it can definetly be passed on via sex ... unless my consultant has the wrong information lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It may not be classed as an sti as it is not found in the semen as far as I know, but it is a 'colonisation' of surface tissues and so can definitely be passed on by direct contact, genital or oral, as well as the act of sex causing a flare up of a pre-existing condition.

Exactly....a flare of a pre-existing condition. Sex doesn't transmit Thrush as a new infection, it can trigger a pre existing infection...therefore not an STI xx

But sex CAN transmit a new infection."

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