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"Nothing enrages people more than bareback sex and lots of them fail to understand that people being honest about it actually helps make informed decisions. " | |||
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"I would never send an abusive message to someone who only plays safe, so why is it some people think its OK to do this to people who play bareback?" Too many people think they can say whatever they like from behind the keyboard. Report and block. | |||
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"Nothing enrages people more than bareback sex and lots of them fail to understand that people being honest about it actually helps make informed decisions. " (we could do with that "like" button) | |||
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"Nothing enrages people more than bareback sex and lots of them fail to understand that people being honest about it actually helps make informed decisions. (we could do with that "like" button)" Indeed | |||
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"I would never send an abusive message to someone who only plays safe, so why is it some people think its OK to do this to people who play bareback?" The same people will give s#it to anyone online about anything when the opportunity arises. They're rarely the the same in person Reading and watching a fleet of them soon spells out they are amazing, their way of living is the way to go and everyone else's ways & existence is questionable subject to their criticism | |||
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"I would never send an abusive message to someone who only plays safe, so why is it some people think its OK to do this to people who play bareback?" Because even though we are all adults on a supposedly liberated swinging site there is a small minority who aren't as open minded, who don't like it when others choose a different pathway and who get off on giving out shite just because!! Report and block would be my advice | |||
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"I've got a question referring to unprotected sex and mean no malice when I ask it Doesn't it worry you guys who do it ?" Does it worry you? And if so why? | |||
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"I've got a question referring to unprotected sex and mean no malice when I ask it Doesn't it worry you guys who do it ?" I suspect not, do most people who smoke, are overweight etc look worried? even though there's huge evidence that those things are a major mortality risk way higher than even attending bareback creampie gangbangs (not something I'd advocate by the way) Humans have an ability to rationalise risk, risk always appears worse to those not taking that risk (eg non smokers often persevere smoking risk higher than smokers do etc) | |||
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"The bareback topic provides a very useful service for some who feel their own sexual inclinations will be generally frowned upon. It allows them to feel superior. " Agreed, I think bareback between two couples who are both getting tested and not having other partners is probably safer than people who go shag and the whole of cap d'agde... but use a condom (which can break, come off and could never stop genital warts to start with). Let's all just be honest and non-judgemental so people can make informed decisions. | |||
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"I've only used a condom on a couple of occasions and in all that time, I've never had any STI's and only had one pregnancy scare. That said, the people I fuck with, I generally know well enough to know I can. If meeting as a couple on here, we'll insist the guy wears one." | |||
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"I've got a question referring to unprotected sex and mean no malice when I ask it Doesn't it worry you guys who do it ?" Of course there can be an element of worry, we don't meet loads of people and we know the risks involved. It is just something we really enjoy | |||
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"I would never send an abusive message to someone who only plays safe, so why is it some people think its OK to do this to people who play bareback?" That's 100% right | |||
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"I would never send an abusive message to someone who only plays safe, so why is it some people think its OK to do this to people who play bareback?" its because they are worried for your health and the others you meet but its your life your choices fuck em and carry on as you were | |||
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"opinions are like assholes there are many " couldn't agree more colonically irrigated ones I hope | |||
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"I enjoy it, if it's not your thing then fine, leave me be x" Definitely me too | |||
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"I would never send an abusive message to someone who only plays safe, so why is it some people think its OK to do this to people who play bareback?" People use any excuse to be nasty here, I've had a couple of nasty messages regarding my size and also for the fact I'm married. I take it with a pinch of salt and try not to dwell on it xx | |||
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"I enjoy it, if it's not your thing then fine, leave me be x Definitely me too" And us. | |||
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"I think there's more people on fab who go bareback than openly admit it. I've seen people absolutely slating others for daring to utter that they do then when you look at their pics and there's black and white guys entering her without condoms!" That's called hypocrisy | |||
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"I think there's more people on fab who go bareback than openly admit it. I've seen people absolutely slating others for daring to utter that they do then when you look at their pics and there's black and white guys entering her without condoms!" Totally agree, but does the colour of the bare cock matter? :p | |||
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"I think there's more people on fab who go bareback than openly admit it. I've seen people absolutely slating others for daring to utter that they do then when you look at their pics and there's black and white guys entering her without condoms!" I agree. Sheer hypocrisy | |||
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"I think there's more people on fab who go bareback than openly admit it. I've seen people absolutely slating others for daring to utter that they do then when you look at their pics and there's black and white guys entering her without condoms! Totally agree, but does the colour of the bare cock matter? :p" i would like a orange cock its my favourite colour | |||
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"I would never send an abusive message to someone who only plays safe, so why is it some people think its OK to do this to people who play bareback? People use any excuse to be nasty here, I've had a couple of nasty messages regarding my size and also for the fact I'm married. I take it with a pinch of salt and try not to dwell on it xx " This actually bothers me. When men are rude to women about their size. Most men get bitchy when a woman makes a comment about their "size" usually being that it's small lol. A woman who is ugly in your eyes can be beautiful in the eyes of many. Shouldn't have to take it at all. Next time you start talking about their size too | |||
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"I would never send an abusive message to someone who only plays safe, so why is it some people think its OK to do this to people who play bareback?" Because they feel that those who do it are putting the health of other people far more at risk than if they used protection? Kinda obvious really | |||
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"Fuck them What you have to remember all the men on here who say bb is a total no no and won't do it etc are only saying it to try and appeal to potential meets. give them a pussy and no condoms and they wold be in it! " Who mentioned anything about guys? | |||
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"I would never send an abusive message to someone who only plays safe, so why is it some people think its OK to do this to people who play bareback?" there's always gonna be someone who has a temper tantrum from not getting their own way x | |||
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"There's only one bareback situation some minds can imagine. That is masses of complete strangers fucking complete strangers that fuck masses of complete strangers bareback regardless of anything For certain some people meet each other and no other for the sole reason of BB fun. There's plenty of seriously selective couples/females who hunt out a worthy, reliable, trusted male friend for such regular fun." Sensible response | |||
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"Fuck them What you have to remember all the men on here who say bb is a total no no and won't do it etc are only saying it to try and appeal to potential meets. give them a pussy and no condoms and they wold be in it! Who mentioned anything about guys?" Me if you read my post which I presume you did. | |||
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"Fuck them What you have to remember all the men on here who say bb is a total no no and won't do it etc are only saying it to try and appeal to potential meets. give them a pussy and no condoms and they wold be in it! " Couldn't agree more. I have NEVER had a bloke refuse. Never. Well, all except one man and hats off to him (I guess). | |||
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"Fuck them What you have to remember all the men on here who say bb is a total no no and won't do it etc are only saying it to try and appeal to potential meets. give them a pussy and no condoms and they wold be in it! Who mentioned anything about guys? Me if you read my post which I presume you did." Well clearly i did...i responded to it. My question centred around you bringing up just guys for no apparent reason. The op was referring to people in general | |||
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"I enjoy it, if it's not your thing then fine, leave me be x" Totally agree. | |||
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"I've got a question referring to unprotected sex and mean no malice when I ask it Doesn't it worry you guys who do it ? I suspect not, do most people who smoke, are overweight etc look worried? even though there's huge evidence that those things are a major mortality risk way higher than even attending bareback creampie gangbangs (not something I'd advocate by the way) Humans have an ability to rationalise risk, risk always appears worse to those not taking that risk (eg non smokers often persevere smoking risk higher than smokers do etc)" I get that, but you can stop smoking and maybe get away with it, also eating and drinking disorders can can be dealt without no long term damage, but with certain sti's there is no such thing as a near miss ( again I stress I'm not having a go ... Promise ) xx | |||
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"I've got a question referring to unprotected sex and mean no malice when I ask it Doesn't it worry you guys who do it ? Of course there can be an element of worry, we don't meet loads of people and we know the risks involved. It is just something we really enjoy " | |||
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"I've got a question referring to unprotected sex and mean no malice when I ask it Doesn't it worry you guys who do it ? I suspect not, do most people who smoke, are overweight etc look worried? even though there's huge evidence that those things are a major mortality risk way higher than even attending bareback creampie gangbangs (not something I'd advocate by the way) Humans have an ability to rationalise risk, risk always appears worse to those not taking that risk (eg non smokers often persevere smoking risk higher than smokers do etc) I get that, but you can stop smoking and maybe get away with it, also eating and drinking disorders can can be dealt without no long term damage, but with certain sti's there is no such thing as a near miss ( again I stress I'm not having a go ... Promise ) xx" But conversely all those things can be fatal as well - cancer, heart attacks, so they can have long term consequences The point is humans can rationalise risk and not live their lives in panic about it even when that risk is real, if people panicked about risk smokers would never leave the house for example! | |||
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"I've got a question referring to unprotected sex and mean no malice when I ask it Doesn't it worry you guys who do it ? I suspect not, do most people who smoke, are overweight etc look worried? even though there's huge evidence that those things are a major mortality risk way higher than even attending bareback creampie gangbangs (not something I'd advocate by the way) Humans have an ability to rationalise risk, risk always appears worse to those not taking that risk (eg non smokers often persevere smoking risk higher than smokers do etc) I get that, but you can stop smoking and maybe get away with it, also eating and drinking disorders can can be dealt without no long term damage, but with certain sti's there is no such thing as a near miss ( again I stress I'm not having a go ... Promise ) xx But conversely all those things can be fatal as well - cancer, heart attacks, so they can have long term consequences The point is humans can rationalise risk and not live their lives in panic about it even when that risk is real, if people panicked about risk smokers would never leave the house for example!" Just to reiterate ..You can't smoke one cigarette and automatically get cancer or have your first Big Mac and suffer an associated heart attack ? | |||
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" Just to reiterate ..You can't smoke one cigarette and automatically get cancer or have your first Big Mac and suffer an associated heart attack ? " Theoretically it is possible to develop cancer from just one cigarette, don't get me wrong it's highly unlikely and you'd have to have some of the worst luck in the history of the world ever, but it is possible | |||
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"I've got a question referring to unprotected sex and mean no malice when I ask it Doesn't it worry you guys who do it ? I suspect not, do most people who smoke, are overweight etc look worried? even though there's huge evidence that those things are a major mortality risk way higher than even attending bareback creampie gangbangs (not something I'd advocate by the way) Humans have an ability to rationalise risk, risk always appears worse to those not taking that risk (eg non smokers often persevere smoking risk higher than smokers do etc) I get that, but you can stop smoking and maybe get away with it, also eating and drinking disorders can can be dealt without no long term damage, but with certain sti's there is no such thing as a near miss ( again I stress I'm not having a go ... Promise ) xx But conversely all those things can be fatal as well - cancer, heart attacks, so they can have long term consequences The point is humans can rationalise risk and not live their lives in panic about it even when that risk is real, if people panicked about risk smokers would never leave the house for example! Just to reiterate ..You can't smoke one cigarette and automatically get cancer or have your first Big Mac and suffer an associated heart attack ? " Also to reiterate the vast majority of 'smokers' have smoked more than one cigarette, the clues in the name, and overweight people who are at risk of type 2 diabetes etc don't all eat Big Macs The original question was about people worrying about risk, the risk of a single Big Mac in a non smoking normal weight person is minuscule, hence why no-ones talking about that | |||
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"I've got a question referring to unprotected sex and mean no malice when I ask it Doesn't it worry you guys who do it ? I suspect not, do most people who smoke, are overweight etc look worried? even though there's huge evidence that those things are a major mortality risk way higher than even attending bareback creampie gangbangs (not something I'd advocate by the way) Humans have an ability to rationalise risk, risk always appears worse to those not taking that risk (eg non smokers often persevere smoking risk higher than smokers do etc) I get that, but you can stop smoking and maybe get away with it, also eating and drinking disorders can can be dealt without no long term damage, but with certain sti's there is no such thing as a near miss ( again I stress I'm not having a go ... Promise ) xx But conversely all those things can be fatal as well - cancer, heart attacks, so they can have long term consequences The point is humans can rationalise risk and not live their lives in panic about it even when that risk is real, if people panicked about risk smokers would never leave the house for example! Just to reiterate ..You can't smoke one cigarette and automatically get cancer or have your first Big Mac and suffer an associated heart attack ? Also to reiterate the vast majority of 'smokers' have smoked more than one cigarette, the clues in the name, and overweight people who are at risk of type 2 diabetes etc don't all eat Big Macs The original question was about people worrying about risk, the risk of a single Big Mac in a non smoking normal weight person is minuscule, hence why no-ones talking about that " And YOU made the un educated comparison between smokers/cancer/type 2 diabetes.. And unprotected sex... Pause...Forgive me for reminding you because quite clearly have forgotten !!! Just go back over the thread and read before making statements like that and trying make us look stupid... Cancer/type 2 diabetes, tried to be nice, but what are you going on about | |||
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"Be a biker who doesn't get clad from head to toe in squeaky leather and hear the howls of indignation from the biker safety brigade. I think that it may be a British thing - to get so righteously uptight over another person's choices in life." no I think its because its a forum and we all have different opinions thats the purpose of it ,to see how different people view whatever that topic is ,wether people chose to get upset or personal or self righteous is down to that persons sense of dignity but it kind of makes it interesting that they do really ,its like a bad advert still has the same effect as a good one | |||
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"I've got a question referring to unprotected sex and mean no malice when I ask it Doesn't it worry you guys who do it ? I suspect not, do most people who smoke, are overweight etc look worried? even though there's huge evidence that those things are a major mortality risk way higher than even attending bareback creampie gangbangs (not something I'd advocate by the way) Humans have an ability to rationalise risk, risk always appears worse to those not taking that risk (eg non smokers often persevere smoking risk higher than smokers do etc) I get that, but you can stop smoking and maybe get away with it, also eating and drinking disorders can can be dealt without no long term damage, but with certain sti's there is no such thing as a near miss ( again I stress I'm not having a go ... Promise ) xx But conversely all those things can be fatal as well - cancer, heart attacks, so they can have long term consequences The point is humans can rationalise risk and not live their lives in panic about it even when that risk is real, if people panicked about risk smokers would never leave the house for example! Just to reiterate ..You can't smoke one cigarette and automatically get cancer or have your first Big Mac and suffer an associated heart attack ? Also to reiterate the vast majority of 'smokers' have smoked more than one cigarette, the clues in the name, and overweight people who are at risk of type 2 diabetes etc don't all eat Big Macs The original question was about people worrying about risk, the risk of a single Big Mac in a non smoking normal weight person is minuscule, hence why no-ones talking about that And YOU made the un educated comparison between smokers/cancer/type 2 diabetes.. And unprotected sex... Pause...Forgive me for reminding you because quite clearly have forgotten !!! Just go back over the thread and read before making statements like that and trying make us look stupid... Cancer/type 2 diabetes, tried to be nice, but what are you going on about " You haven't a clue have you? Then original post I replied to was asking whether those engaging in bareback events etc worry a lot about it My reply (with a COI that I don't go to these) was that I suspected they didn't because humans rationalise risk and by the same reasoning smokers and people who are overweight, whom overwhelming scientific evidence shows, are at significant risk of cancer and type 2 diabetes, don't walk around worrying about it Now I stand by that point and you making a comparison between people having a lifestyle that exposes them to potentially fatal risks such as those attending bareback gangbangs or smoking as those having a single fag as a teenager doesn't really advance the discussion | |||
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"I think there's more people on fab who go bareback than openly admit it. I've seen people absolutely slating others for daring to utter that they do then when you look at their pics and there's black and white guys entering her without condoms! Totally agree, but does the colour of the bare cock matter? :p" I think they are pointing out that it must be someone else doing bareback with them rather than a race thing. N | |||
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"On average 100,000 people die each year from smoking related diseases. In 2009 517 died from HIV Aids. I am confused. Why would a smoker be worried about bareback sex? " I've seen the same people that go off the hook when the opportunity to kick bare-backers about arises yet couldn't give a feck about XXX,XXX number of deaths modern western war mongering/meddling has caused. Their interested in the whatever sexual exploits of other people and their private lives yet couldn't give a fcuk on a real humanitarian front. | |||
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"I would never send an abusive message to someone who only plays safe, so why is it some people think its OK to do this to people who play bareback? Because they feel that those who do it are putting the health of other people far more at risk than if they used protection? Kinda obvious really" Kinda not obvious. How does people barbacking put at risk those that use condoms? | |||
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"Fuck them What you have to remember all the men on here who say bb is a total no no and won't do it etc are only saying it to try and appeal to potential meets. give them a pussy and no condoms and they wold be in it! " This statement I find objectionable. You defend your rights to BB (as well you should) and then state that all guys that state they only have protected sex would ignore their principles for a fuck. Nice sweeping generalisation, trust me, I wouldn't, ever. That's why it's in my profile. Some people, truly have a shitty opinion of men. | |||
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"Fuck them What you have to remember all the men on here who say bb is a total no no and won't do it etc are only saying it to try and appeal to potential meets. give them a pussy and no condoms and they wold be in it! This statement I find objectionable. You defend your rights to BB (as well you should) and then state that all guys that state they only have protected sex would ignore their principles for a fuck. Nice sweeping generalisation, trust me, I wouldn't, ever. That's why it's in my profile. Some people, truly have a shitty opinion of men. " A thoroughly enjoyable bit of over reaction. Lol Great stuff thanks | |||
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"Fuck them What you have to remember all the men on here who say bb is a total no no and won't do it etc are only saying it to try and appeal to potential meets. give them a pussy and no condoms and they wold be in it! This statement I find objectionable. You defend your rights to BB (as well you should) and then state that all guys that state they only have protected sex would ignore their principles for a fuck. Nice sweeping generalisation, trust me, I wouldn't, ever. That's why it's in my profile. Some people, truly have a shitty opinion of men. A thoroughly enjoyable bit of over reaction. Lol Great stuff thanks " As oppose to a sweeping generalisation... okay then It's okay for people to defend BB sex (which I actually believe, it's okay for anyone to defend how they play), but it's not okay to say "actually I am not a liar, I only have protected sex" Duplicity.... | |||
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"Taking such personal offence about comments that were clearly meant as generalisations is frankly silly. But it did give us a good laugh. " "All the men on here" I guess that does include me, doesn't it? Glad you enjoyed the show | |||
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"Taking such personal offence about comments that were clearly meant as generalisations is frankly silly. But it did give us a good laugh. "All the men on here" I guess that does include me, doesn't it? Glad you enjoyed the show " You are clearly a guy who is happy to go the extra mile to feel offended. You will find plenty of opportunity in the forums. I expect you will provide us with much future entertainment | |||
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"I've got a question referring to unprotected sex and mean no malice when I ask it Doesn't it worry you guys who do it ? I suspect not, do most people who smoke, are overweight etc look worried? even though there's huge evidence that those things are a major mortality risk way higher than even attending bareback creampie gangbangs (not something I'd advocate by the way) Humans have an ability to rationalise risk, risk always appears worse to those not taking that risk (eg non smokers often persevere smoking risk higher than smokers do etc) I get that, but you can stop smoking and maybe get away with it, also eating and drinking disorders can can be dealt without no long term damage, but with certain sti's there is no such thing as a near miss ( again I stress I'm not having a go ... Promise ) xx But conversely all those things can be fatal as well - cancer, heart attacks, so they can have long term consequences The point is humans can rationalise risk and not live their lives in panic about it even when that risk is real, if people panicked about risk smokers would never leave the house for example! Just to reiterate ..You can't smoke one cigarette and automatically get cancer or have your first Big Mac and suffer an associated heart attack ? Also to reiterate the vast majority of 'smokers' have smoked more than one cigarette, the clues in the name, and overweight people who are at risk of type 2 diabetes etc don't all eat Big Macs The original question was about people worrying about risk, the risk of a single Big Mac in a non smoking normal weight person is minuscule, hence why no-ones talking about that And YOU made the un educated comparison between smokers/cancer/type 2 diabetes.. And unprotected sex... Pause...Forgive me for reminding you because quite clearly have forgotten !!! Just go back over the thread and read before making statements like that and trying make us look stupid... Cancer/type 2 diabetes, tried to be nice, but what are you going on about You haven't a clue have you? Then original post I replied to was asking whether those engaging in bareback events etc worry a lot about it My reply (with a COI that I don't go to these) was that I suspected they didn't because humans rationalise risk and by the same reasoning smokers and people who are overweight, whom overwhelming scientific evidence shows, are at significant risk of cancer and type 2 diabetes, don't walk around worrying about it Now I stand by that point and you making a comparison between people having a lifestyle that exposes them to potentially fatal risks such as those attending bareback gangbangs or smoking as those having a single fag as a teenager doesn't really advance the discussion " How can you even compare those. And I never made any reference to gang bangs etc... FACT!!! Are you an mp, because iv never heard as much S##T and un objective garb | |||
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"It's not for us but we respect and appreciate others honesty about their preference as it means we can make an informed decision about a potential meet. We would certainly never abuse or disrespect someone else for their own choices and sexual preferences! I can't understand why someone would feel it's ok to do that? As if their aversion to your choices should be of interest to you?! I hope you have reported them. Sasha x" | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. " That seems a touch judgemental. If condoms work and you wear one all the time at meets then you should be safe from STI, yes? So what is you problem about others not wearing condoms? Calling them "dirty" is not very nice. | |||
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"The same haters who get on their high horse about those who bareback are the same ones who say shocking things to guys who are circumcised or people with certain preferences! They have an opinion on everything and enjoy getting a reaction! It's nothing more than bullying, trolling or whatever you want to call it. This is an adult site where we make our own choices, it's a shame not everyone behaves like an adult!" | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. " Lots of people make the same judgement about HPWs | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. Lots of people make the same judgement about HPWs " HPWs....??? | |||
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"Taking such personal offence about comments that were clearly meant as generalisations is frankly silly. But it did give us a good laugh. "All the men on here" I guess that does include me, doesn't it? Glad you enjoyed the show You are clearly a guy who is happy to go the extra mile to feel offended. You will find plenty of opportunity in the forums. I expect you will provide us with much future entertainment " | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. That seems a touch judgemental. If condoms work and you wear one all the time at meets then you should be safe from STI, yes? So what is you problem about others not wearing condoms? Calling them "dirty" is not very nice. " One thing I seen yesterday was 2 guys bareback in then another licking his come out none of then knew each other. There choice but how do they know there all clean. | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. Lots of people make the same judgement about HPWs HPWs....???" I think is a variant of a truck; certainly built like one | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. That seems a touch judgemental. If condoms work and you wear one all the time at meets then you should be safe from STI, yes? So what is you problem about others not wearing condoms? Calling them "dirty" is not very nice. One thing I seen yesterday was 2 guys bareback in then another licking his come out none of then knew each other. There choice but how do they know there all clean. " Risk assessment I guess - Have you ever pushed a lift button and a little while later eaten a sandwich without remembering to wash your hands? Lift buttons are scientifically proven to be far more germ ridden than toilet seats. Be honest, its just because you can tell people you have a cold or flu or gastroenteritis from an infected lift button but can never say a word about chlamydia from sex even though it is a far lesser infection. Let us start judging diseases by their effects on the body and not how they were contracted. If it was just risk assessment then people would wear gloves and masks 24/7. They would never touch or kiss someone etc etc. Its just the stigma of STIs that gets the fear factor rocketing. | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. That seems a touch judgemental. If condoms work and you wear one all the time at meets then you should be safe from STI, yes? So what is you problem about others not wearing condoms? Calling them "dirty" is not very nice. One thing I seen yesterday was 2 guys bareback in then another licking his come out none of then knew each other. There choice but how do they know there all clean. Risk assessment I guess - Have you ever pushed a lift button and a little while later eaten a sandwich without remembering to wash your hands? Lift buttons are scientifically proven to be far more germ ridden than toilet seats. Be honest, its just because you can tell people you have a cold or flu or gastroenteritis from an infected lift button but can never say a word about chlamydia from sex even though it is a far lesser infection. Let us start judging diseases by their effects on the body and not how they were contracted. If it was just risk assessment then people would wear gloves and masks 24/7. They would never touch or kiss someone etc etc. Its just the stigma of STIs that gets the fear factor rocketing. " Very good well worded post | |||
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"Whereas its safe sex for me unless with a partner. Who's to say that people who choose the bareback lifestyle don't get tested??. You have more chance of catching something from someone who doesn't know they have anything than someone that does. " Absolutely true. If we did not know they knew where the GUM clinic was then boxes of condoms and a nbc suit would not be enough to convince us. | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. That seems a touch judgemental. If condoms work and you wear one all the time at meets then you should be safe from STI, yes? " Not necessarily, because there are high risk oral/anal practices to consider too. | |||
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"We often wonder if all the venomous comments made about those who choose to play bare are counter productive. We think that it just drives those with this as a preference to put safe sex on their profile but in reality prefer bare when a meet is arranged." | |||
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"We often wonder if all the venomous comments made about those who choose to play bare are counter productive. We think that it just drives those with this as a preference to put safe sex on their profile but in reality prefer bare when a meet is arranged. " We will keep our profile as it is, we are upfront about what we like | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. That seems a touch judgemental. If condoms work and you wear one all the time at meets then you should be safe from STI, yes? Not necessarily, because there are high risk oral/anal practices to consider too." Couples are a high risk category. They can potentially meet twice as many individuals (couples are two people and if they are meeting another couple, then that is four people together). Only one needs to be infected and then the infection passes between the couple Best to avoid couples | |||
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"Everybody has the right to their own choices. So if they send you abuse report and block them! I find it amazing how some people can be on a swingers site yet be so judgemental. Tut Tut " Yes we find that quite amusing too. I wonder if the Bareback Police tell their work colleagues and family that they are on a swingers site, have sex with lots of people. "But we don't do bareback...that's for perverts!" | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. That seems a touch judgemental. If condoms work and you wear one all the time at meets then you should be safe from STI, yes? So what is you problem about others not wearing condoms? Calling them "dirty" is not very nice. One thing I seen yesterday was 2 guys bareback in then another licking his come out none of then knew each other. There choice but how do they know there all clean. Risk assessment I guess - Have you ever pushed a lift button and a little while later eaten a sandwich without remembering to wash your hands? Lift buttons are scientifically proven to be far more germ ridden than toilet seats. Be honest, its just because you can tell people you have a cold or flu or gastroenteritis from an infected lift button but can never say a word about chlamydia from sex even though it is a far lesser infection. Let us start judging diseases by their effects on the body and not how they were contracted. If it was just risk assessment then people would wear gloves and masks 24/7. They would never touch or kiss someone etc etc. Its just the stigma of STIs that gets the fear factor rocketing. " Oh my god..! Before we start we are not officers for the Hampshire bareback police force !! It's your choice simple but I hate it when ( and I'm hoping it's a wind up ) people can make incorrect statements like.. Wait for it.. Chlamydia is lesser disease than a cold and gastroenteritis ... Wow ! | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. That seems a touch judgemental. If condoms work and you wear one all the time at meets then you should be safe from STI, yes? So what is you problem about others not wearing condoms? Calling them "dirty" is not very nice. One thing I seen yesterday was 2 guys bareback in then another licking his come out none of then knew each other. There choice but how do they know there all clean. Risk assessment I guess - Have you ever pushed a lift button and a little while later eaten a sandwich without remembering to wash your hands? Lift buttons are scientifically proven to be far more germ ridden than toilet seats. Be honest, its just because you can tell people you have a cold or flu or gastroenteritis from an infected lift button but can never say a word about chlamydia from sex even though it is a far lesser infection. Let us start judging diseases by their effects on the body and not how they were contracted. If it was just risk assessment then people would wear gloves and masks 24/7. They would never touch or kiss someone etc etc. Its just the stigma of STIs that gets the fear factor rocketing. Oh my god..! Before we start we are not officers for the Hampshire bareback police force !! It's your choice simple but I hate it when ( and I'm hoping it's a wind up ) people can make incorrect statements like.. Wait for it.. Chlamydia is lesser disease than a cold and gastroenteritis ... Wow ! " Or we are hoping we have misread it | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. That seems a touch judgemental. If condoms work and you wear one all the time at meets then you should be safe from STI, yes? So what is you problem about others not wearing condoms? Calling them "dirty" is not very nice. One thing I seen yesterday was 2 guys bareback in then another licking his come out none of then knew each other. There choice but how do they know there all clean. Risk assessment I guess - Have you ever pushed a lift button and a little while later eaten a sandwich without remembering to wash your hands? Lift buttons are scientifically proven to be far more germ ridden than toilet seats. Be honest, its just because you can tell people you have a cold or flu or gastroenteritis from an infected lift button but can never say a word about chlamydia from sex even though it is a far lesser infection. Let us start judging diseases by their effects on the body and not how they were contracted. If it was just risk assessment then people would wear gloves and masks 24/7. They would never touch or kiss someone etc etc. Its just the stigma of STIs that gets the fear factor rocketing. Oh my god..! Before we start we are not officers for the Hampshire bareback police force !! It's your choice simple but I hate it when ( and I'm hoping it's a wind up ) people can make incorrect statements like.. Wait for it.. Chlamydia is lesser disease than a cold and gastroenteritis ... Wow ! " A cold is debilitating to the sick person. It can and often does lead to chest infections and is exceedingly contageous. It is an incurable virus. The very young, weak and old can die from a cold. Gastroenteritis is a very unpleasant stomach infection. Left untreated it can and does kill. It can lead to malnutrician and dehydration. It can be treated but will run its course. It is very contagious. Ebola is a gasterointestinal infection. Chlamydia is almost undetectable in terms of symptoms. Unless untreated for a very long time it does little hard to the human body. It can be cured by one antibiotic pill. It is less contagious than colds or Gastroenteritis. That is why I think Chlamydia is a lesser disease. Why do you think it is worse? Erm..... wow! | |||
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"Good. This discussion is becoming interesting, and balanced again(not to mention civil, at last!). This cold/chlahmidia[sic]is interesting and worthy also. Not to mention enlightening about what it reveals about [people's attitudes to STIs versus other viruses/diseases." Thanks Longer (i hope i can call you that) for your comment. I have wondered for a while why diseases transfered through the wholly natural act of having sex should be feared and reviled to a far greater extent than non-sexual diseases. I thought we could discuss this here. | |||
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"I would never send an abusive message to someone who only plays safe, so why is it some people think its OK to do this to people who play bareback? Too many people think they can say whatever they like from behind the keyboard. Report and block. " here here too many key board warriors...do what.suits you as u will never b able to.please everyone x | |||
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"I think there's more people on fab who go bareback than openly admit it. I've seen people absolutely slating others for daring to utter that they do then when you look at their pics and there's black and white guys entering her without condoms!" This is so true amount of guys who put safe sex is a must then begging to creampie Me Each to there own,I personally don't care what others think I'm enjoying myself,everyone involved is an adult and makes own choices | |||
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"I would never send an abusive message to someone who only plays safe, so why is it some people think its OK to do this to people who play bareback?" I haven't had comments about bareback 'lifestyle' but have heard similar about people who live a 'bi lifestyle' .... this always intrigues me because I do wonder what those poor souls who live a 'normal lifestyle' as they deem it think we bi people live like. Any sexual preference is a choice, but does it necessarily dictate a lifestyle our of the norm? I think a lot of such comments show people are judgemental, intolerant and holding the belief that others, who have a particular preference or lifestyle, haven't yet come to their enlightened view and must be educated on the forums so they see the light. I know, like everyone else here knows, my way is the best way ... | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. That seems a touch judgemental. If condoms work and you wear one all the time at meets then you should be safe from STI, yes? Not necessarily, because there are high risk oral/anal practices to consider too. Couples are a high risk category. They can potentially meet twice as many individuals (couples are two people and if they are meeting another couple, then that is four people together). Only one needs to be infected and then the infection passes between the couple Best to avoid couples " Those bloody swingers again..... | |||
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"Each to there own but people should have more respect for them selves and others." Really! Just how does bareback between consenting adults imply a lack of respect!? | |||
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"Each to there own but people should have more respect for them selves and others. Really! Just how does bareback between consenting adults imply a lack of respect!?" | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. That seems a touch judgemental. If condoms work and you wear one all the time at meets then you should be safe from STI, yes? So what is you problem about others not wearing condoms? Calling them "dirty" is not very nice. One thing I seen yesterday was 2 guys bareback in then another licking his come out none of then knew each other. There choice but how do they know there all clean. Risk assessment I guess - Have you ever pushed a lift button and a little while later eaten a sandwich without remembering to wash your hands? Lift buttons are scientifically proven to be far more germ ridden than toilet seats. Be honest, its just because you can tell people you have a cold or flu or gastroenteritis from an infected lift button but can never say a word about chlamydia from sex even though it is a far lesser infection. Let us start judging diseases by their effects on the body and not how they were contracted. If it was just risk assessment then people would wear gloves and masks 24/7. They would never touch or kiss someone etc etc. Its just the stigma of STIs that gets the fear factor rocketing. Oh my god..! Before we start we are not officers for the Hampshire bareback police force !! It's your choice simple but I hate it when ( and I'm hoping it's a wind up ) people can make incorrect statements like.. Wait for it.. Chlamydia is lesser disease than a cold and gastroenteritis ... Wow ! A cold is debilitating to the sick person. It can and often does lead to chest infections and is exceedingly contageous. It is an incurable virus. The very young, weak and old can die from a cold. Gastroenteritis is a very unpleasant stomach infection. Left untreated it can and does kill. It can lead to malnutrician and dehydration. It can be treated but will run its course. It is very contagious. Ebola is a gasterointestinal infection. Chlamydia is almost undetectable in terms of symptoms. Unless untreated for a very long time it does little hard to the human body. It can be cured by one antibiotic pill. It is less contagious than colds or Gastroenteritis. That is why I think Chlamydia is a lesser disease. Why do you think it is worse? Erm..... wow! " If you have anal intercourse with someone who has chlamydia, it can cause rectal pain, discharge, or bleeding. If left untreated in women, the infection can cause Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID), which can lead to long term pain, infertility, or even death. In men, chlamydia may cause pain, fever, and sterility. Erm.... We have decided, give the choice... Cold it is !!!! Erm... Wow!!!!! Remember Google is your friend and feel free to consult before engaging the index finger | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. That seems a touch judgemental. If condoms work and you wear one all the time at meets then you should be safe from STI, yes? So what is you problem about others not wearing condoms? Calling them "dirty" is not very nice. One thing I seen yesterday was 2 guys bareback in then another licking his come out none of then knew each other. There choice but how do they know there all clean. Risk assessment I guess - Have you ever pushed a lift button and a little while later eaten a sandwich without remembering to wash your hands? Lift buttons are scientifically proven to be far more germ ridden than toilet seats. Be honest, its just because you can tell people you have a cold or flu or gastroenteritis from an infected lift button but can never say a word about chlamydia from sex even though it is a far lesser infection. Let us start judging diseases by their effects on the body and not how they were contracted. If it was just risk assessment then people would wear gloves and masks 24/7. They would never touch or kiss someone etc etc. Its just the stigma of STIs that gets the fear factor rocketing. Oh my god..! Before we start we are not officers for the Hampshire bareback police force !! It's your choice simple but I hate it when ( and I'm hoping it's a wind up ) people can make incorrect statements like.. Wait for it.. Chlamydia is lesser disease than a cold and gastroenteritis ... Wow ! A cold is debilitating to the sick person. It can and often does lead to chest infections and is exceedingly contageous. It is an incurable virus. The very young, weak and old can die from a cold. Gastroenteritis is a very unpleasant stomach infection. Left untreated it can and does kill. It can lead to malnutrician and dehydration. It can be treated but will run its course. It is very contagious. Ebola is a gasterointestinal infection. Chlamydia is almost undetectable in terms of symptoms. Unless untreated for a very long time it does little hard to the human body. It can be cured by one antibiotic pill. It is less contagious than colds or Gastroenteritis. That is why I think Chlamydia is a lesser disease. Why do you think it is worse? Erm..... wow! If you have anal intercourse with someone who has chlamydia, it can cause rectal pain, discharge, or bleeding. If left untreated in women, the infection can cause Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID), which can lead to long term pain, infertility, or even death. In men, chlamydia may cause pain, fever, and sterility. Erm.... We have decided, give the choice... Cold it is !!!! Erm... Wow!!!!! Remember Google is your friend and feel free to consult before engaging the index finger " Exactly - make whatever choice you wish but make it an INFORMED choice and give other people the right to avoid the risk as there are plenty of incurable sti's too. | |||
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"Shocks me that some people would look for unprotected sex - especially on a swinging site. I find it hard to understand how they have no regard for there health. I personally would be worried sick I would catch hiv or herpies or something. However I wouldn't abuse someone for doing it. I'm more interested as to why they take the risk? And how they dont worry? I would appreciate them being honest so I knew not to meet them. " Same here on the not meeting them. I think for some it is the danger that attracts them to it and turns them on. | |||
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"I would never send an abusive message to someone who only plays safe, so why is it some people think its OK to do this to people who play bareback?" I would only do this if they message us first requesting it, as I profile specifically states safe sex. | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. That seems a touch judgemental. If condoms work and you wear one all the time at meets then you should be safe from STI, yes? So what is you problem about others not wearing condoms? Calling them "dirty" is not very nice. One thing I seen yesterday was 2 guys bareback in then another licking his come out none of then knew each other. There choice but how do they know there all clean. Risk assessment I guess - Have you ever pushed a lift button and a little while later eaten a sandwich without remembering to wash your hands? Lift buttons are scientifically proven to be far more germ ridden than toilet seats. Be honest, its just because you can tell people you have a cold or flu or gastroenteritis from an infected lift button but can never say a word about chlamydia from sex even though it is a far lesser infection. Let us start judging diseases by their effects on the body and not how they were contracted. If it was just risk assessment then people would wear gloves and masks 24/7. They would never touch or kiss someone etc etc. Its just the stigma of STIs that gets the fear factor rocketing. Oh my god..! Before we start we are not officers for the Hampshire bareback police force !! It's your choice simple but I hate it when ( and I'm hoping it's a wind up ) people can make incorrect statements like.. Wait for it.. Chlamydia is lesser disease than a cold and gastroenteritis ... Wow ! A cold is debilitating to the sick person. It can and often does lead to chest infections and is exceedingly contageous. It is an incurable virus. The very young, weak and old can die from a cold. Gastroenteritis is a very unpleasant stomach infection. Left untreated it can and does kill. It can lead to malnutrician and dehydration. It can be treated but will run its course. It is very contagious. Ebola is a gasterointestinal infection. Chlamydia is almost undetectable in terms of symptoms. Unless untreated for a very long time it does little hard to the human body. It can be cured by one antibiotic pill. It is less contagious than colds or Gastroenteritis. That is why I think Chlamydia is a lesser disease. Why do you think it is worse? Erm..... wow! If you have anal intercourse with someone who has chlamydia, it can cause rectal pain, discharge, or bleeding. If left untreated in women, the infection can cause Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID), which can lead to long term pain, infertility, or even death. In men, chlamydia may cause pain, fever, and sterility. Erm.... We have decided, give the choice... Cold it is !!!! Erm... Wow!!!!! Remember Google is your friend and feel free to consult before engaging the index finger " That is what GUM clinics are for. Get tested; get treated. | |||
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"Shocks me that some people would look for unprotected sex - especially on a swinging site. I find it hard to understand how they have no regard for there health. I personally would be worried sick I would catch hiv or herpies or something. However I wouldn't abuse someone for doing it. I'm more interested as to why they take the risk? And how they dont worry? I would appreciate them being honest so I knew not to meet them. Same here on the not meeting them. I think for some it is the danger that attracts them to it and turns them on. " But surely you would only know that they have unprotected sex if they tell you that they do What amazes me is that people think that couples having unprotected sex between themselves are somehow safer I think they are the most high-risk group. The trust and confidence they may have between each other is non-transferable. Basically, they are barebackers | |||
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"Shocks me that some people would look for unprotected sex - especially on a swinging site. I find it hard to understand how they have no regard for there health. I personally would be worried sick I would catch hiv or herpies or something. However I wouldn't abuse someone for doing it. I'm more interested as to why they take the risk? And how they dont worry? I would appreciate them being honest so I knew not to meet them. Same here on the not meeting them. I think for some it is the danger that attracts them to it and turns them on. But surely you would only know that they have unprotected sex if they tell you that they do What amazes me is that people think that couples having unprotected sex between themselves are somehow safer I think they are the most high-risk group. The trust and confidence they may have between each other is non-transferable. Basically, they are barebackers" You're ignoring several other factors. Risk is not just a numbers game with simple multiplication of partners. Psychology plays a role too. There are lots of things you can look for on a profile that are better indicators. | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. That seems a touch judgemental. If condoms work and you wear one all the time at meets then you should be safe from STI, yes? So what is you problem about others not wearing condoms? Calling them "dirty" is not very nice. One thing I seen yesterday was 2 guys bareback in then another licking his come out none of then knew each other. There choice but how do they know there all clean. Risk assessment I guess - Have you ever pushed a lift button and a little while later eaten a sandwich without remembering to wash your hands? Lift buttons are scientifically proven to be far more germ ridden than toilet seats. Be honest, its just because you can tell people you have a cold or flu or gastroenteritis from an infected lift button but can never say a word about chlamydia from sex even though it is a far lesser infection. Let us start judging diseases by their effects on the body and not how they were contracted. If it was just risk assessment then people would wear gloves and masks 24/7. They would never touch or kiss someone etc etc. Its just the stigma of STIs that gets the fear factor rocketing. Oh my god..! Before we start we are not officers for the Hampshire bareback police force !! It's your choice simple but I hate it when ( and I'm hoping it's a wind up ) people can make incorrect statements like.. Wait for it.. Chlamydia is lesser disease than a cold and gastroenteritis ... Wow ! A cold is debilitating to the sick person. It can and often does lead to chest infections and is exceedingly contageous. It is an incurable virus. The very young, weak and old can die from a cold. Gastroenteritis is a very unpleasant stomach infection. Left untreated it can and does kill. It can lead to malnutrician and dehydration. It can be treated but will run its course. It is very contagious. Ebola is a gasterointestinal infection. Chlamydia is almost undetectable in terms of symptoms. Unless untreated for a very long time it does little hard to the human body. It can be cured by one antibiotic pill. It is less contagious than colds or Gastroenteritis. That is why I think Chlamydia is a lesser disease. Why do you think it is worse? Erm..... wow! If you have anal intercourse with someone who has chlamydia, it can cause rectal pain, discharge, or bleeding. If left untreated in women, the infection can cause Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID), which can lead to long term pain, infertility, or even death. In men, chlamydia may cause pain, fever, and sterility. Erm.... We have decided, give the choice... Cold it is !!!! Erm... Wow!!!!! Remember Google is your friend and feel free to consult before engaging the index finger Exactly - make whatever choice you wish but make it an INFORMED choice and give other people the right to avoid the risk as there are plenty of incurable sti's too." Then let us be informed. There are masses of incurable non-STIs too. Remember, Flu kills on average 10,000 per annum in the UK; that beats the hell out of AIDs. Yet people do not wear masks and gloves and avoid physical contact to stay flu free because it is "unfortunate" to get it. Smokers, at a 1:5 risk of death from smoking, still wear condoms simply because cancer is "unfortunate" and only the immoral and unclean who disrespect themselves and others get STIs. Its the stigma attached to STIs that matters to most people not its effect on the body. Wear condoms to avoid STIs if you wish but be realistic about why you fear STIs. | |||
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"Shocks me that some people would look for unprotected sex - especially on a swinging site. I find it hard to understand how they have no regard for there health. I personally would be worried sick I would catch hiv or herpies or something. However I wouldn't abuse someone for doing it. I'm more interested as to why they take the risk? And how they dont worry? I would appreciate them being honest so I knew not to meet them. Same here on the not meeting them. I think for some it is the danger that attracts them to it and turns them on. But surely you would only know that they have unprotected sex if they tell you that they do What amazes me is that people think that couples having unprotected sex between themselves are somehow safer I think they are the most high-risk group. The trust and confidence they may have between each other is non-transferable. Basically, they are barebackers You're ignoring several other factors. Risk is not just a numbers game with simple multiplication of partners. Psychology plays a role too. There are lots of things you can look for on a profile that are better indicators. " And the psychology of couples is that they have unprotected sex between themselves. They assume that each other is STI free and expect others to accept their trust and confidence. No different from anybody else who has unprotected sex assuming that the person they are having sex is STI free To me, both groups are risk-takers whom I need to protect myself from | |||
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"Shocks me that some people would look for unprotected sex - especially on a swinging site. I find it hard to understand how they have no regard for there health. I personally would be worried sick I would catch hiv or herpies or something. However I wouldn't abuse someone for doing it. I'm more interested as to why they take the risk? And how they dont worry? I would appreciate them being honest so I knew not to meet them. Same here on the not meeting them. I think for some it is the danger that attracts them to it and turns them on. But surely you would only know that they have unprotected sex if they tell you that they do What amazes me is that people think that couples having unprotected sex between themselves are somehow safer I think they are the most high-risk group. The trust and confidence they may have between each other is non-transferable. Basically, they are barebackers You're ignoring several other factors. Risk is not just a numbers game with simple multiplication of partners. Psychology plays a role too. There are lots of things you can look for on a profile that are better indicators. And the psychology of couples is that they have unprotected sex between themselves. They assume that each other is STI free and expect others to accept their trust and confidence. No different from anybody else who has unprotected sex assuming that the person they are having sex is STI free To me, both groups are risk-takers whom I need to protect myself from" Do as you like but statistically speaking you are wrong on this one, which is unusual for yourself... | |||
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"We have just found out that two couples on our friends list play bareback but state on profile safe sex.let them know that we can't play with them and reply was just " your choice " how many other people state on profile safe sex then don't practice it " If you wore condoms with them then you are ok, aren't you? If you get regularly checked you will have certainty. No amount of condoms beats an "all clear" from the GUM clinic. | |||
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"We have just found out that two couples on our friends list play bareback but state on profile safe sex.let them know that we can't play with them and reply was just " your choice " how many other people state on profile safe sex then don't practice it " Same as smoking non smokers ..fat curvy people....30 yr olds that are 45........who cares ,wear a condom if thats your thing | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. That seems a touch judgemental. If condoms work and you wear one all the time at meets then you should be safe from STI, yes? So what is you problem about others not wearing condoms? Calling them "dirty" is not very nice. One thing I seen yesterday was 2 guys bareback in then another licking his come out none of then knew each other. There choice but how do they know there all clean. Risk assessment I guess - Have you ever pushed a lift button and a little while later eaten a sandwich without remembering to wash your hands? Lift buttons are scientifically proven to be far more germ ridden than toilet seats. Be honest, its just because you can tell people you have a cold or flu or gastroenteritis from an infected lift button but can never say a word about chlamydia from sex even though it is a far lesser infection. Let us start judging diseases by their effects on the body and not how they were contracted. If it was just risk assessment then people would wear gloves and masks 24/7. They would never touch or kiss someone etc etc. Its just the stigma of STIs that gets the fear factor rocketing. Oh my god..! Before we start we are not officers for the Hampshire bareback police force !! It's your choice simple but I hate it when ( and I'm hoping it's a wind up ) people can make incorrect statements like.. Wait for it.. Chlamydia is lesser disease than a cold and gastroenteritis ... Wow ! A cold is debilitating to the sick person. It can and often does lead to chest infections and is exceedingly contageous. It is an incurable virus. The very young, weak and old can die from a cold. Gastroenteritis is a very unpleasant stomach infection. Left untreated it can and does kill. It can lead to malnutrician and dehydration. It can be treated but will run its course. It is very contagious. Ebola is a gasterointestinal infection. Chlamydia is almost undetectable in terms of symptoms. Unless untreated for a very long time it does little hard to the human body. It can be cured by one antibiotic pill. It is less contagious than colds or Gastroenteritis. That is why I think Chlamydia is a lesser disease. Why do you think it is worse? Erm..... wow! If you have anal intercourse with someone who has chlamydia, it can cause rectal pain, discharge, or bleeding. If left untreated in women, the infection can cause Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID), which can lead to long term pain, infertility, or even death. In men, chlamydia may cause pain, fever, and sterility. Erm.... We have decided, give the choice... Cold it is !!!! Erm... Wow!!!!! Remember Google is your friend and feel free to consult before engaging the index finger Exactly - make whatever choice you wish but make it an INFORMED choice and give other people the right to avoid the risk as there are plenty of incurable sti's too. Then let us be informed. There are masses of incurable non-STIs too. Remember, Flu kills on average 10,000 per annum in the UK; that beats the hell out of AIDs. Yet people do not wear masks and gloves and avoid physical contact to stay flu free because it is "unfortunate" to get it. Smokers, at a 1:5 risk of death from smoking, still wear condoms simply because cancer is "unfortunate" and only the immoral and unclean who disrespect themselves and others get STIs. Its the stigma attached to STIs that matters to most people not its effect on the body. Wear condoms to avoid STIs if you wish but be realistic about why you fear STIs. " No, but those at high risk have a flu jab every year... | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. That seems a touch judgemental. If condoms work and you wear one all the time at meets then you should be safe from STI, yes? So what is you problem about others not wearing condoms? Calling them "dirty" is not very nice. One thing I seen yesterday was 2 guys bareback in then another licking his come out none of then knew each other. There choice but how do they know there all clean. Risk assessment I guess - Have you ever pushed a lift button and a little while later eaten a sandwich without remembering to wash your hands? Lift buttons are scientifically proven to be far more germ ridden than toilet seats. Be honest, its just because you can tell people you have a cold or flu or gastroenteritis from an infected lift button but can never say a word about chlamydia from sex even though it is a far lesser infection. Let us start judging diseases by their effects on the body and not how they were contracted. If it was just risk assessment then people would wear gloves and masks 24/7. They would never touch or kiss someone etc etc. Its just the stigma of STIs that gets the fear factor rocketing. Oh my god..! Before we start we are not officers for the Hampshire bareback police force !! It's your choice simple but I hate it when ( and I'm hoping it's a wind up ) people can make incorrect statements like.. Wait for it.. Chlamydia is lesser disease than a cold and gastroenteritis ... Wow ! A cold is debilitating to the sick person. It can and often does lead to chest infections and is exceedingly contageous. It is an incurable virus. The very young, weak and old can die from a cold. Gastroenteritis is a very unpleasant stomach infection. Left untreated it can and does kill. It can lead to malnutrician and dehydration. It can be treated but will run its course. It is very contagious. Ebola is a gasterointestinal infection. Chlamydia is almost undetectable in terms of symptoms. Unless untreated for a very long time it does little hard to the human body. It can be cured by one antibiotic pill. It is less contagious than colds or Gastroenteritis. That is why I think Chlamydia is a lesser disease. Why do you think it is worse? Erm..... wow! If you have anal intercourse with someone who has chlamydia, it can cause rectal pain, discharge, or bleeding. If left untreated in women, the infection can cause Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID), which can lead to long term pain, infertility, or even death. In men, chlamydia may cause pain, fever, and sterility. Erm.... We have decided, give the choice... Cold it is !!!! Erm... Wow!!!!! Remember Google is your friend and feel free to consult before engaging the index finger Exactly - make whatever choice you wish but make it an INFORMED choice and give other people the right to avoid the risk as there are plenty of incurable sti's too. Then let us be informed. There are masses of incurable non-STIs too. Remember, Flu kills on average 10,000 per annum in the UK; that beats the hell out of AIDs. Yet people do not wear masks and gloves and avoid physical contact to stay flu free because it is "unfortunate" to get it. Smokers, at a 1:5 risk of death from smoking, still wear condoms simply because cancer is "unfortunate" and only the immoral and unclean who disrespect themselves and others get STIs. Its the stigma attached to STIs that matters to most people not its effect on the body. Wear condoms to avoid STIs if you wish but be realistic about why you fear STIs. No, but those at high risk have a flu jab every year... " Which protects them against 3 strains of flu IF you are in the demographic that gets the jab. | |||
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"We have just found out that two couples on our friends list play bareback but state on profile safe sex.let them know that we can't play with them and reply was just " your choice " how many other people state on profile safe sex then don't practice it If you wore condoms with them then you are ok, aren't you? If you get regularly checked you will have certainty. No amount of condoms beats an "all clear" from the GUM clinic. " condoms dont stop all sti's it just minimizes the risk. there is a few sti;s that you can catch while thinking your protected. thats why we still get checked regularly even though we play safe. | |||
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" Its the stigma attached to STIs that matters to most people not its effect on the body. Wear condoms to avoid STIs if you wish but be realistic about why you fear STIs. " I am totally realistic!! It would not be the end of the world to get an easily treatable sti but it would REALLY piss me off to get HIV, Hepatitis, or Herpes! As soon as I heard there was a Hepatitis vaccine available I went and got my jabs, just because I have contact with people who swing and accept that there will be a large 'chain' of contact. I doubt the majority on here do, and I know of people who have been on here years and never once got tested! | |||
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"We prefer bareback" atleast you are honest about it on here. a lot of people say they dont but then do it. think a lot of people dont want backlash thats why they lie about it, none of my business but wouldnt it be better if you stated it on your profile so others are aware. i know you dont state safe sex as an option but would make it clear, | |||
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"Shocks me that some people would look for unprotected sex - especially on a swinging site. I find it hard to understand how they have no regard for there health. I personally would be worried sick I would catch hiv or herpies or something. However I wouldn't abuse someone for doing it. I'm more interested as to why they take the risk? And how they dont worry? I would appreciate them being honest so I knew not to meet them. Same here on the not meeting them. I think for some it is the danger that attracts them to it and turns them on. But surely you would only know that they have unprotected sex if they tell you that they do What amazes me is that people think that couples having unprotected sex between themselves are somehow safer I think they are the most high-risk group. The trust and confidence they may have between each other is non-transferable. Basically, they are barebackers You're ignoring several other factors. Risk is not just a numbers game with simple multiplication of partners. Psychology plays a role too. There are lots of things you can look for on a profile that are better indicators. And the psychology of couples is that they have unprotected sex between themselves. They assume that each other is STI free and expect others to accept their trust and confidence. No different from anybody else who has unprotected sex assuming that the person they are having sex is STI free To me, both groups are risk-takers whom I need to protect myself from Do as you like but statistically speaking you are wrong on this one, which is unusual for yourself... " I don't think there are any reliable statistics on couples who are swingers or for that matter, singles who are swingers Since couples who are swingers are exposed to a higher risk by the simple fact that they are jointly exposed to twice as many people and then they have frequent unprotected sex between themselves making transmission of STIs almost a certainty, they are a higher risk category However, I view both groups as potential carriers and protect myself accordingly | |||
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" Since couples who are swingers are exposed to a higher risk by the simple fact that they are jointly exposed to twice as many people and then they have frequent unprotected sex between themselves making transmission of STIs almost a certainty, they are a higher risk category Ok, so you're only talking relatively, a function of the numbers game. A couple who meet another couple once a quarter are not going to be anywhere near the risk of a single who meets every weekend, or goes to a club and has multiple encounters in one night. And there is also the relative risk of different types of oral activity to factor in - just done some research on some of that and it is very unsavoury!! " Absolutely; the risk is squared because of the numbers The fact that it is a known that couples have unprotected sex between themselves makes them a high risk category. The frequency of sex which they may or may not have with others reduces or increases that risk. However, since the frequency is unknown, all else being equal, they are a high-risk group Completely agree with you; unprotected oral sex carries its own risk. We all manage that risk according to our outlook on life. I am perfectly happy to jump out of a completely serviceable aircraft at 5,000 metres, with a parachute ofcourse, but not happy walking into a stranger's home for sex. Some may think that is madness but it is a choice I have made for myself | |||
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"I would never send an abusive message to someone who only plays safe, so why is it some people think its OK to do this to people who play bareback?" You play bareback that's your choice, other play safe that's their choice. I see nowt wrong with either as long as you all consent to it and am happy to do so. At the end of the day it is your choice. As for abusive messages well the interweb is full of keyboard warriors | |||
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"I seen a thousand and 1 reasons yesterday why u should never bareback. Some right dirty people out there that don't care about there own health or yours. That seems a touch judgemental. If condoms work and you wear one all the time at meets then you should be safe from STI, yes? So what is you problem about others not wearing condoms? Calling them "dirty" is not very nice. One thing I seen yesterday was 2 guys bareback in then another licking his come out none of then knew each other. There choice but how do they know there all clean. Risk assessment I guess - Have you ever pushed a lift button and a little while later eaten a sandwich without remembering to wash your hands? Lift buttons are scientifically proven to be far more germ ridden than toilet seats. Be honest, its just because you can tell people you have a cold or flu or gastroenteritis from an infected lift button but can never say a word about chlamydia from sex even though it is a far lesser infection. Let us start judging diseases by their effects on the body and not how they were contracted. If it was just risk assessment then people would wear gloves and masks 24/7. They would never touch or kiss someone etc etc. Its just the stigma of STIs that gets the fear factor rocketing. Oh my god..! Before we start we are not officers for the Hampshire bareback police force !! It's your choice simple but I hate it when ( and I'm hoping it's a wind up ) people can make incorrect statements like.. Wait for it.. Chlamydia is lesser disease than a cold and gastroenteritis ... Wow ! A cold is debilitating to the sick person. It can and often does lead to chest infections and is exceedingly contageous. It is an incurable virus. The very young, weak and old can die from a cold. Gastroenteritis is a very unpleasant stomach infection. Left untreated it can and does kill. It can lead to malnutrician and dehydration. It can be treated but will run its course. It is very contagious. Ebola is a gasterointestinal infection. Chlamydia is almost undetectable in terms of symptoms. Unless untreated for a very long time it does little hard to the human body. It can be cured by one antibiotic pill. It is less contagious than colds or Gastroenteritis. That is why I think Chlamydia is a lesser disease. Why do you think it is worse? Erm..... wow! If you have anal intercourse with someone who has chlamydia, it can cause rectal pain, discharge, or bleeding. If left untreated in women, the infection can cause Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID), which can lead to long term pain, infertility, or even death. In men, chlamydia may cause pain, fever, and sterility. Erm.... We have decided, give the choice... Cold it is !!!! Erm... Wow!!!!! Remember Google is your friend and feel free to consult before engaging the index finger Exactly - make whatever choice you wish but make it an INFORMED choice and give other people the right to avoid the risk as there are plenty of incurable sti's too. Then let us be informed. There are masses of incurable non-STIs too. Remember, Flu kills on average 10,000 per annum in the UK; that beats the hell out of AIDs. Yet people do not wear masks and gloves and avoid physical contact to stay flu free because it is "unfortunate" to get it. Smokers, at a 1:5 risk of death from smoking, still wear condoms simply because cancer is "unfortunate" and only the immoral and unclean who disrespect themselves and others get STIs. Its the stigma attached to STIs that matters to most people not its effect on the body. Wear condoms to avoid STIs if you wish but be realistic about why you fear STIs. No, but those at high risk have a flu jab every year... " Bravo!!! Becoming very ill due to certain illness is as someone put it "unfortunate" but sti's, we can make a choice !! and respect people's opinions but if we don't do our bit like it has been quoted, we risk an epidemic and leave a legacy for future generations to come. No pun intended lol | |||
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"Oooooops!!! I think we've killed this thread " no its still alive and kicking like the rest of us barebackers | |||
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"I Jez am gonna say something unbelievably stupid. Why not have a separate fab site for those that enjoy bare fun. I appreciate that everyone is entitled to their opinion about this subject but ffs why do people have to make such venomous comments." Because the barebackers may want the safe-sexers to be moved to that site and we'll never hear the end of that Then the slim ones will want the fat ones to be moved to another site and then the ..... | |||
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"I Jez am gonna say something unbelievably stupid. Why not have a separate fab site for those that enjoy bare fun. I appreciate that everyone is entitled to their opinion about this subject but ffs why do people have to make such venomous comments. Because the barebackers may want the safe-sexers to be moved to that site and we'll never hear the end of that Then the slim ones will want the fat ones to be moved to another site and then the ....." See said I was saying something unbelievably stupid lol. | |||
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"Oooooops!!! I think we've killed this thread no its still alive and kicking like the rest of us barebackers " Thank god xx | |||
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"I would never send an abusive message to someone who only plays safe, so why is it some people think its OK to do this to people who play bareback?" It maybe because there are so many sti's about and wearing a condom can stop these so a lot of people can't understand why this person would want to take the risk! I personally wouldn't want the worry and stress thinking I've caught something! It's just sensible thing to do but each to their own I guess I personally I don't get it but hey ho there you go Have fun! Stay safe! | |||
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"I would never send an abusive message to someone who only plays safe, so why is it some people think its OK to do this to people who play bareback? It maybe because there are so many sti's about and wearing a condom can stop these so a lot of people can't understand why this person would want to take the risk! I personally wouldn't want the worry and stress thinking I've caught something! It's just sensible thing to do but each to their own I guess I personally I don't get it but hey ho there you go Have fun! Stay safe! " But people take risks all the time though, that's human nature, people smoke and drink, are overweight etc - all practices with huge evidence that they cause cancer, heart disease and early death etc, yet they don't get abuse on this site I personally don't understand why anyone would smoke, I think it's madness, I don't attend bareback gangbangs either or drink excessively but I would defend their right to do it and not to be abused for it completely Just because we personally don't understand why some other people choose to take a certain risk, whether that's smoking, excessive drinking or attending bareback gangbangs etc doesn't mean they should be abused on here or anywhere | |||
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"I would never send an abusive message to someone who only plays safe, so why is it some people think its OK to do this to people who play bareback? It maybe because there are so many sti's about and wearing a condom can stop these so a lot of people can't understand why this person would want to take the risk! I personally wouldn't want the worry and stress thinking I've caught something! It's just sensible thing to do but each to their own I guess I personally I don't get it but hey ho there you go Have fun! Stay safe! But people take risks all the time though, that's human nature, people smoke and drink, are overweight etc - all practices with huge evidence that they cause cancer, heart disease and early death etc, yet they don't get abuse on this site I personally don't understand why anyone would smoke, I think it's madness, I don't attend bareback gangbangs either or drink excessively but I would defend their right to do it and not to be abused for it completely Just because we personally don't understand why some other people choose to take a certain risk, whether that's smoking, excessive drinking or attending bareback gangbangs etc doesn't mean they should be abused on here or anywhere " He's off again... | |||
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