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" Gender norms and treatments of non-binary gender are somewhat regressive in the swinging community (as with the sex industry as a whole, and the population at large really). "TV/TS" is the catch-all on this site (and many others) to cover any variation of assigned-male-presents-as-female, and many of those interested in that group (or explicitly not & have that group blocked) don't really care about the fine detail of nonbinary gender, cross-dressing, transgender, genderqueer, etc - they just care "do I want to fuck them or not?" " This | |||
"Would it be easier to have a guys profilr then explain you like dressing etc and have some pics in both modes in public so people can see? Or is it possible (or allowed within fab rules?) to have 2 peofiles one for meeting as a guy and one for meeting as a tv? "  Have 2 profiles. You could either keep them separate or mention the other profile on each. I know people with more than one profile for similar reasons. It seems to work well.  | |||
" "TV/TS" is the catch-all on this site (and many others) to cover any variation of assigned-male-presents-as-female," And assigned female presents as other. People forget that one - hence why I don't put myself in that category on this site. | |||
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"Pansexual. FFS!" It's a perfectly reasonable term. | |||
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"Pansexual. FFS!" Pan="all inclusive" Therefore all-inclusive-sexual. How else do you say that you like all variants of gender rather than just male and female? Bisexual means you like *both* genders - male and female. Not that you like anybody other than cis men and women. | |||
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"I heard this on Radio 4 last week for the first time. There seemed to be some confusion what it actually meant (maybe just me as it was late at night). Be4ing like Britney Spears and Miley Cyrus are both claiming to be Gender fluid. Is it not easy to be `gay` or `bi` rather then these new ( are they new) names popping up" Genderfluid is to do with (as the name suggests) your gender not your sexuality. It means you are some variation other than male or female. | |||
"I heard this on Radio 4 last week for the first time. There seemed to be some confusion what it actually meant (maybe just me as it was late at night). Be4ing like Britney Spears and Miley Cyrus are both claiming to be Gender fluid. Is it not easy to be `gay` or `bi` rather then these new ( are they new) names popping up Genderfluid is to do with (as the name suggests) your gender not your sexuality. It means you are some variation other than male or female." But in the real world that doesn't exist. Only inside a persons head And surely bisexual covers everything | |||
"I heard this on Radio 4 last week for the first time. There seemed to be some confusion what it actually meant (maybe just me as it was late at night). Be4ing like Britney Spears and Miley Cyrus are both claiming to be Gender fluid. Is it not easy to be `gay` or `bi` rather then these new ( are they new) names popping up Genderfluid is to do with (as the name suggests) your gender not your sexuality. It means you are some variation other than male or female." Ok I think I understand the difference, so this is not your preference in partners but how you feel yourself in your body? Is that correct | |||
"I heard this on Radio 4 last week for the first time. There seemed to be some confusion what it actually meant (maybe just me as it was late at night). Be4ing like Britney Spears and Miley Cyrus are both claiming to be Gender fluid. Is it not easy to be `gay` or `bi` rather then these new ( are they new) names popping up Genderfluid is to do with (as the name suggests) your gender not your sexuality. It means you are some variation other than male or female. But in the real world that doesn't exist. Only inside a persons head And surely bisexual covers everything" You really hate labels don't you? As said nothing to do with who they fuck so homo, pan, hetro, bi, a or any other sexuality. It means the individual can flit from being male to female in the best way they can physically and mentally. If you going to denounce it as a label the only real match might be transgender | |||
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"I'm not really bisexual though. Bi means two, which infers I like both men and women. X I'm pansexual, which means I'm attracted ( that doesn't necessarily just mean sexually) to the person regardless of gender. I see people as people and not just what anatomy they have. " We would probably meet you all say long. We are both bi and I myself share your attitude in regards to gender fluidity. | |||
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"Pansexual. FFS!" I love this, to many labels! Clearly a Pansexual is a bi that likes cooking. Gender Fluid is a bi that likes drinking. Once they have finnished cooking or drinking, I have have a snog, see if we click, and then take it from there. XXX | |||
Why even contribute if your going to look down, dismiss and ridicule how others live or define themselves? Just because these definitions don't belong in your vocabulary, doesn't mean they don't exist or aren't valid.
OP, you're probably better off only meeting those who do tick that box. Less likely to stumble on the bigots.
Might want some photos too. | |||
"Another thread where the small minded crawl out Why even contribute if your going to look down, dismiss and ridicule how others live or define themselves? Just because these definitions don't belong in your vocabulary, doesn't mean they don't exist or aren't valid.
OP, you're probably better off only meeting those who do tick that box. Less likely to stumble on the bigots.
Might want some photos too."Why? How would he portray his 'pansexuality' with a photo? And could you please explain to the narrow minded bigots just what exactly a 'pansexual' person actually does that is not covered by heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual? | |||
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" Might want some photos too. Why? How would he portray his 'pansexuality' with a photo? " As for this. Really? I meant having pics on their profile. Simple. | |||
"I'm pansexual and gender fluid. I don't believe in gender or sexual binaries. When I have sex with someone who also considers themselves between the HUGE gender spectrum of male and female, I'm pansexual. Very simple." Thats simple? That says nothing other than what you believe | |||
"I'm pansexual and gender fluid. I don't believe in gender or sexual binaries. When I have sex with someone who also considers themselves between the HUGE gender spectrum of male and female, I'm pansexual. Very simple. Thats simple? That says nothing other than what you believe" If that's what I and others believe, why do you have such a problem with that? Since when is anything black and white, true and correct? | |||
"I'm pansexual and gender fluid. I don't believe in gender or sexual binaries. When I have sex with someone who also considers themselves between the HUGE gender spectrum of male and female, I'm pansexual. Very simple. Thats simple? That says nothing other than what you believe If that's what I and others believe, why do you have such a problem with that? Since when is anything black and white, true and correct?" I don't have a problem with what you believe but you have yet to explain what is not covered by hetero, homo or bi. And you seem to be the one with a problem towards people who do not share your beliefs by calling them bigots | |||
"I'm pansexual and gender fluid. I don't believe in gender or sexual binaries. When I have sex with someone who also considers themselves between the HUGE gender spectrum of male and female, I'm pansexual. Very simple. Thats simple? That says nothing other than what you believe If that's what I and others believe, why do you have such a problem with that? Since when is anything black and white, true and correct? I don't have a problem with what you believe but you have yet to explain what is not covered by hetero, homo or bi. And you seem to be the one with a problem towards people who do not share your beliefs by calling them bigots" Is it really so hard to get? All...inbetween.. everything. Het, bi, homo are boxes. Definite and final. Pan opens it up, all inclusive. If you don't believe it, that's not my issue, nor do I care. Takes all sorts to make a world. My problem is how you've ridiculed and dismissed others choices. | |||
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"But in the real world that doesn't exist. Only inside a persons head" You could say exactly the same of gender as a whole, if you want to be pedantic about it. Unlike sex, whose finite definitions are rooted in biology, gender is just a human social construct, and therefore subject to change and reimagining. No offence, but it strikes me as being a bit obtuse not to recognise new labels that help conceptualise wider identities beyond the male/female paradigm as being 'real', just because they don't conform to the binary norm. | |||
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"I heard this on Radio 4 last week for the first time. There seemed to be some confusion what it actually meant (maybe just me as it was late at night). Be4ing like Britney Spears and Miley Cyrus are both claiming to be Gender fluid. Is it not easy to be `gay` or `bi` rather then these new ( are they new) names popping up Genderfluid is to do with (as the name suggests) your gender not your sexuality. It means you are some variation other than male or female. But in the real world that doesn't exist. Only inside a persons head And surely bisexual covers everything" Are you on a mission? 
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"I heard this on Radio 4 last week for the first time. There seemed to be some confusion what it actually meant (maybe just me as it was late at night). Be4ing like Britney Spears and Miley Cyrus are both claiming to be Gender fluid. Is it not easy to be `gay` or `bi` rather then these new ( are they new) names popping up Genderfluid is to do with (as the name suggests) your gender not your sexuality. It means you are some variation other than male or female." Androgynous might be the term. | |||
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"But in the real world that doesn't exist. Only inside a persons head You could say exactly the same of gender as a whole, if you want to be pedantic about it. Unlike sex, whose finite definitions are rooted in biology, gender is just a human social construct, and therefore subject to change and reimagining. No offence, but it strikes me as being a bit obtuse not to recognise new labels that help conceptualise wider identities beyond the male/female paradigm as being 'real', just because they don't conform to the binary norm. " You missed the point or maybe I didn't explain it, I meant all gender is what is inside a persons head. Now can you tell me what connotations exist sexually between 2 wider identities that are not covered by hetero, homo or bi? | |||
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"Another thread where the small minded crawl out Why even contribute if your going to look down, dismiss and ridicule how others live or define themselves? Just because these definitions don't belong in your vocabulary, doesn't mean they don't exist or aren't valid.
OP, you're probably better off only meeting those who do tick that box. Less likely to stumble on the bigots.
Might want some photos too.
Why? How would he portray his 'pansexuality' with a photo?
And could you please explain to the narrow minded bigots just what exactly a 'pansexual' person actually does that is not covered by heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual?
"Bisexual means 'likes two genders'. Only male and female. If you're attracted to people who aren't male or female then you're pansexual. Some people aren't attracted to those who are bigender, third, fluid, queer or trans. They are heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual. | |||
"I heard this on Radio 4 last week for the first time. There seemed to be some confusion what it actually meant (maybe just me as it was late at night). Be4ing like Britney Spears and Miley Cyrus are both claiming to be Gender fluid. Is it not easy to be `gay` or `bi` rather then these new ( are they new) names popping up Genderfluid is to do with (as the name suggests) your gender not your sexuality. It means you are some variation other than male or female. Androgynous might be the term." No, it's not. Androgynous refers to something very specific about looks rather than gender or sexuality. | |||
"I heard this on Radio 4 last week for the first time. There seemed to be some confusion what it actually meant (maybe just me as it was late at night). Be4ing like Britney Spears and Miley Cyrus are both claiming to be Gender fluid. Is it not easy to be `gay` or `bi` rather then these new ( are they new) names popping up Genderfluid is to do with (as the name suggests) your gender not your sexuality. It means you are some variation other than male or female. Androgynous might be the term." No, it's not. Androgynous refers to something very specific about looks rather than gender or sexuality. | |||
"Think they call that Gender Queer horrid name but that's government for you . "Genderqueer is different to gender fluid. It's not a horrible name that the government made up, it's a name that was adopted by those of us who identify as genderqueer. | |||
"Think they call that Gender Queer horrid name but that's government for you .
Genderqueer is different to gender fluid. It's not a horrible name that the government made up, it's a name that was adopted by those of us who
identify as genderqueer."If the person who thought the name was horrid thought the name was horrid then for them, it's horrid. It's their opinion and on something subjective, you can't say 'it's not a horrible name' without any sensible quality of meaning. | |||
"Another thread where the small minded crawl out Why even contribute if your going to look down, dismiss and ridicule how others live or define themselves? Just because these definitions don't belong in your vocabulary, doesn't mean they don't exist or aren't valid.
OP, you're probably better off only meeting those who do tick that box. Less likely to stumble on the bigots.
Might want some photos too.
Why? How would he portray his 'pansexuality' with a photo?
And could you please explain to the narrow minded bigots just what exactly a 'pansexual' person actually does that is not covered by heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual?
Bisexual means 'likes two genders'. Only male and female. If you're attracted to people who aren't male or female then you're pansexual.
Some people aren't attracted to those who are bigender, third, fluid, queer or trans. They are heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual."So some people who are attracted to those who are bi gender can not be hetero, homo or bi?
Doesn't your gender exist in your mind and people will either be attracted to you or not? I'm a heterosexual guy but not attracted to all women, does that make me any less heterosexual? I might be attracted to a woman who identifies as a man. Does that make me any less heterosexual? | |||
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"I like people. If I find someone attractive, I find them attractive. It doesn't matter if they have a penis or if they have tits (or both!) I like both. I don't know what that makes me. I've always ticked the bisexual box because I like having sex with people who have a penis and people who have tits. I'm not that bothered about labels. OP, I wouldn't be put off meeting you. There has to be an attraction for me, personality/chemistry/appearance are a factor. Gender makes no odds to me. " | |||
"I like people. If I find someone attractive, I find them attractive. It doesn't matter if they have a penis or if they have tits (or both!) I like both. I don't know what that makes me. I've always ticked the bisexual box because I like having sex with people who have a penis and people who have tits. I'm not that bothered about labels. OP, I wouldn't be put off meeting you. There has to be an attraction for me, personality/chemistry/appearance are a factor. Gender makes no odds to me. "It obviously makes you 'pansexual' don't you know
Well, according to pseudo intellectuals on here who jump on 'trendy' bandwagons without thinking things through, or deluded attention seelking female pop stars, oops, can I call them female | |||
"I like people. If I find someone attractive, I find them attractive. It doesn't matter if they have a penis or if they have tits (or both!) I like both. I don't know what that makes me. I've always ticked the bisexual box because I like having sex with people who have a penis and people who have tits. I'm not that bothered about labels. OP, I wouldn't be put off meeting you. There has to be an attraction for me, personality/chemistry/appearance are a factor. Gender makes no odds to me.
It obviously makes you 'pansexual' don't you know
Well, according to pseudo intellectuals on here who jump on 'trendy' bandwagons without thinking things through, or deluded attention seelking female pop stars, oops, can I call them female "Oh it's pretty clear it's been thought through by the people who've posted. I don't envy having to deal with feeling like you don't fit naturally into one gender or the other. I'm guessing that's been pretty traumatic for anyone, especially as a kid when you're born into a body that doesn't feel quite right. When you have to be confused or explain yourself to people who expect you to fit in a box ticking form because that's all they've known or what they think is 'normal' or socially acceptable. Being different isn't a walk in the park from what I've witnessed throughout my life because not everyone simply accepts the outer shell. The inside is complicated and unless you've experienced that first hand, which I absolutely haven't, I cannot pretend to know how it feels. That, for me, makes these kind of discussions hugely interesting. I find out things that I know nothing about and it makes me think differently. That's a great thing. People are fascinating. | |||
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"You missed the point or maybe I didn't explain it, I meant all gender is what is inside a persons head. Now can you tell me what connotations exist sexually between 2 wider identities that are not covered by hetero, homo or bi?" "Bisexual means 'likes two genders'. Only male and female. If you're attracted to people who aren't male or female then you're pansexual. Some people aren't attracted to those who are bigender, third, fluid, queer or trans. They are heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual." The traditional hetero, homo and bisexual labels by definition only suffice to indentify whether or or not a particular person finds either or both traditional male/female genders attractive. I prefer to simply state that pansexual people don't consider gender at all in determining whether or not they find another person attractive, so the sexual connotations of the traditional paradigm are irrelevant for them. It's redundant to call yourself bisexual and state that you find both men and women attractive, if you don't recognise the male and female (or any other) genders in making that determination. In so doing, you run the risk of people presuming that you don't find other genders attractive, and some people prefer to not be so immediately restrictive. Fun fact by the way Captain Condescension: putting things in inverted commas and referring to people who have a different opinion than you as pseudointellectuals, doesn't actual serve to strengthen your position/weaken theirs. | |||
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"I agree and can understand the difficulties with gender confusion etc, well to a point anyway as I too have never been in that position. But to suggest that people who are bi sexual cannot be attracted to people who are 'gender fluid' and can only be attracted to people who are either defined solely as male or female is ridiculous. In any state of mind that you are in, the attraction to any other person can be described as hetero, homo or bi. To be gender fluid and attracted to someone else who is gender fluid doesn't change that or make it something different. Now where's me coffee "Ok I see your point now. This makes sense. I still think people can choose whatever label they like but I think I understand what you're saying. | |||
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"And bisexual people do consider gender when finding people attractive? Really? And resorting to calling people names who have a difference of opinion hardly helps your case does it" Impressively, the post *directly* above yours disproves your point. Some folk who are bi are only interested in manly men, or womanly women. Since you're quite content to tell people they're wrong for expressing anything more complicated than that, if "bi" is "likes manly men and womanly women", where do you put someone interested in womanly men or manly women? And if you'd say they're bi too, how do you differentiate? | |||
"And bisexual people do consider gender when finding people attractive? Really? And resorting to calling people names who have a difference of opinion hardly helps your case does it Impressively, the post *directly* above yours disproves your point. Some folk who are bi are only interested in manly men, or womanly women. Since you're quite content to tell people they're wrong for expressing anything more complicated than that, if "bi" is "likes manly men and womanly women", where do you put someone interested in womanly men or manly women? And if you'd say they're bi too, how do you differentiate?" You don't. And why would you need to? | |||
"You don't. And why would you need to? " Because if you don't fall into the category of manly man or womanly woman, you want to present yourself properly and make sure your account gets shown to people interested in your kind of person? Let's take Bad Santa as the example here, since he made it quite clear he likes people with strong binary gender definitions and is NOT interested in anyone in between. How should the site handle "my interests are like Bad Santa's" vs "my interests are like AdamMissbahaving?'s"? When creating your profile, how should it distinguish between "I think my profile should be shown to Bad Santa when they search" vs "I think my profile should be shown to AdamMissbahaving when they search"? | |||
"You don't. And why would you need to? Because if you don't fall into the category of manly man or womanly woman, you want to present yourself properly and make sure your account gets shown to people interested in your kind of person? Let's take Bad Santa as the example here, since he made it quite clear he likes people with strong binary gender definitions and is NOT interested in anyone in between. How should the site handle "my interests are like Bad Santa's" vs "my interests are like AdamMissbahaving?'s"? When creating your profile, how should it distinguish between "I think my profile should be shown to Bad Santa when they search" vs "I think my profile should be shown to AdamMissbahaving when they search"?" Why don't they have categories for fat or skinny women only etc etc?, they are just preferences | |||
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"Brilliant thread that has got my head hurting. feel free to label me because im an old girl who has grown bored of the bi label... i enjoy sex with men and wonen, i find guys that present as females very attractive .....when sex is involved i love the lady to be curvy and have boobs, which, if i had sex with a male presenting as a female, would be missing. Im not attracted to females who are 'manly' ... but then if a female was presenting as male and looked the part then great. Bring it on. I love girly girls, and portly men, i would have sex with a guy who presented well as a female, but my brain would need to adjust to the fact that the sex was going to be different to fem/fem. ( wouldnt need the same toys). So...... my new label is ??? " Exactly. Same as the old one | |||
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"Another thread where the small minded crawl out Why even contribute if your going to look down, dismiss and ridicule how others live or define themselves? Just because these definitions don't belong in your vocabulary, doesn't mean they don't exist or aren't valid.
OP, you're probably better off only meeting those who do tick that box. Less likely to stumble on the bigots.
Might want some photos too.
Why? How would he portray his 'pansexuality' with a photo?
And could you please explain to the narrow minded bigots just what exactly a 'pansexual' person actually does that is not covered by heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual?
Bisexual means 'likes two genders'. Only male and female. If you're attracted to people who aren't male or female then you're pansexual.
Some people aren't attracted to those who are bigender, third, fluid, queer or trans. They are heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual."I was going to let this go but I'm sorry, just couldn't resist. You call yourself 'pansexual'and genderqueer and describe above what that means/entails etc, yet on another forum thread you say that you onlx date/have sex with bisexual guys. How can that be possible after what you've just said? | |||
"I'm not really bisexual though. Bi means two, which infers I like both men and women. X I'm pansexual, which means I'm attracted ( that doesn't necessarily just mean sexually) to the person regardless of gender. I see people as people and not just what anatomy they have. " Sorry but pansexual to me is same as bi sexual , feelings or no feelings... So basically you are a bisexual crossdresser who likes everything from cock to minge...sorted | |||
"Another thread where the small minded crawl out Why even contribute if your going to look down, dismiss and ridicule how others live or define themselves? Just because these definitions don't belong in your vocabulary, doesn't mean they don't exist or aren't valid.
OP, you're probably better off only meeting those who do tick that box. Less likely to stumble on the bigots.
Might want some photos too.
Why? How would he portray his 'pansexuality' with a photo?
And could you please explain to the narrow minded bigots just what exactly a 'pansexual' person actually does that is not covered by heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual?
Bisexual means 'likes two genders'. Only male and female. If you're attracted to people who aren't male or female then you're pansexual.
Some people aren't attracted to those who are bigender, third, fluid, queer or trans. They are heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual.
I was going to let this go but I'm sorry, just couldn't resist. You call yourself 'pansexual'and genderqueer and describe above what that means/entails etc, yet on another forum thread you say that you onlx date/have sex with bisexual guys. How can that be possible after what you've just said? "All these,non labels for old labels are confusing me... Bi and greedy he is for sure...pansexual is a fancy word for ....sorry.....slut(on this site..in real life I would class it a tad differently ) | |||
"To be honest I'm a little bored with bi/try/pan/sexuality confusion! We are all grown ups and surely most of us are here to have new experiences? If your sexual 'label' puts people off then surely they are to be avoided! "But yet you are forced into choosing a sexuality on this site! | |||
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"Condescending? Maybe, I dunno. But the people who have posted on this thread alone claiming to be pansexual or trying to explain what it is have all pretty much come out with different explanations as to what it is. And the long winded post lifted from the internet covers everything without actually saying anything or making any clear distinctions between anything. Anyway, from now on I would like to be identified as Supersexual. Thank you "You'll have to explain what it means and if we agree then you can use it.... Just joking if that is the description that suits you best then by all means it's a free world and not everyone fits comfortably into pre-existing pigeon holes | |||
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"Maybe it's about time fabswingers kicked out all the singles of all sexual persuasions, then we wouldn't have to worry about who's feelings were being hurt because their particular pigeon hole wasn't being pandered to.. Put up, or push off." I am with you on that one. Only leave the asexuals on. Wouldn't even need to define male or female as nobody is going to do anything with anyone anyway then | |||
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"Just one pigeon hole. Human. Then use your profile for details.." Can you keep your mind off holes for a minute and stick to the topic | |||
"Just one pigeon hole. Human. Then use your profile for details.." But then no one would fit in it as it's a pigeon hole and not a human hole | |||
"Another thread where the small minded crawl out Why even contribute if your going to look down, dismiss and ridicule how others live or define themselves? Just because these definitions don't belong in your vocabulary, doesn't mean they don't exist or aren't valid.
OP, you're probably better off only meeting those who do tick that box. Less likely to stumble on the bigots.
Might want some photos too.
Why? How would he portray his 'pansexuality' with a photo?
And could you please explain to the narrow minded bigots just what exactly a 'pansexual' person actually does that is not covered by heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual?
Bisexual means 'likes two genders'. Only male and female. If you're attracted to people who aren't male or female then you're pansexual.
Some people aren't attracted to those who are bigender, third, fluid, queer or trans. They are heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual.
I was going to let this go but I'm sorry, just couldn't resist. You call yourself 'pansexual'and genderqueer and describe above what that means/entails etc, yet on another forum thread you say that you onlx date/have sex with bisexual guys. How can that be possible after what you've just said? "I'm only attracted to men who will sleep with people other than cis women. On this site, that is defined as bisexual. Sometimes I use the language of this site, sometimes I use language that is more comfortable to me. I don't always want to fight the battles and face the pisstaking - like on this thread. | |||
"Maybe it's about time fabswingers kicked out all the singles of all sexual persuasions, then we wouldn't have to worry about who's feelings were being hurt because their particular pigeon hole wasn't being pandered to.. Put up, or push off." What about genderqueer couples like myself and one of my partners? I mean we're a couple so therefore should be here, but we still don't fit into the boxes. | |||
"I like people. If I find someone attractive, I find them attractive. It doesn't matter if they have a penis or if they have tits (or both!) I like both. I don't know what that makes me. I've always ticked the bisexual box because I like having sex with people who have a penis and people who have tits. I'm not that bothered about labels. OP, I wouldn't be put off meeting you. There has to be an attraction for me, personality/chemistry/appearance are a factor. Gender makes no odds to me.
It obviously makes you 'pansexual' don't you know
Well, according to pseudo intellectuals on here who jump on 'trendy' bandwagons without thinking things through, or deluded attention seelking female pop stars, oops, can I call them female "This is what makes you a bigot. Not your belief, however closed-minded and intolerant it is, but the hateful way you express it. I suggest you decide not to meet pansexual people, (if any would even be interested), on the basis that you are clearly not on the same wavelength, and leave them to live their lives in the way they choose. | |||
"Maybe it's about time fabswingers kicked out all the singles of all sexual persuasions, then we wouldn't have to worry about who's feelings were being hurt because their particular pigeon hole wasn't being pandered to.. Put up, or push off. What about genderqueer couples like myself and one of my partners? I mean we're a couple so therefore should be here, but we still don't fit into the boxes." Meh. Who wants to fit in the boxes defined by closed-minded norms? I'm extremely proud to be different and even more so on threads like this. | |||
"To be honest I'm a little bored with bi/try/pan/sexuality confusion! We are all grown ups and surely most of us are here to have new experiences? If your sexual 'label' puts people off then surely they are to be avoided!
But yet you are forced into choosing a sexuality on this site!"True But can't we just fuck who we fancy at the time? | |||
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"Gender fluid , I assume were not talking spunk and pussy juice here "No, its about water-based lubrication | |||
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"Maybe it's about time fabswingers kicked out all the singles of all sexual persuasions, then we wouldn't have to worry about who's feelings were being hurt because their particular pigeon hole wasn't being pandered to.. Put up, or push off. What about genderqueer couples like myself and one of my partners? I mean we're a couple so therefore should be here, but we still don't fit into the boxes. Meh. Who wants to fit in the boxes defined by closed-minded norms? I'm extremely proud to be different and even more so on threads like this." Closed minded morons? Doesn't that make you a bigot of this thread too? And I really don't mind what people call themselves or what gender they claim to be but if you cannot see the flaws in the explanations given as to what this pansexuality is supposed to be then I think its you who needs to open her mind and not blindly support the people you think you should to appear 'different'. Its strange isn't it that the people who have poured most scorn on the term pansexual on this thread seem to have been the tv's yet I notice that you have made no comment to them. Wonder why that is? | |||
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"I like people. If I find someone attractive, I find them attractive. It doesn't matter if they have a penis or if they have tits (or both!) I like both. I don't know what that makes me. I've always ticked the bisexual box because I like having sex with people who have a penis and people who have tits. I'm not that bothered about labels. OP, I wouldn't be put off meeting you. There has to be an attraction for me, personality/chemistry/appearance are a factor. Gender makes no odds to me. "
This, for me it's about the person, some people i like, some I don't, gender has never been important. | |||
" Might want some photos too. Why? How would he portray his 'pansexuality' with a photo? As for this. Really? I meant having pics on their profile. Simple." Actually I think it may help! I have no problem meeting bi men and have friends on here who are tv's but wouldn't be attracted to them at all in their female persona! Therefore I'd suggest the op posts pictures in both his male and female clothing etc - so that anyone meeting him/her can say which they wish to meet, if that makes sense? X | |||
"hi everyone. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this please? I'm gender fluid which means I'm kind of the sex in between. I'm physically a guy but feel just as much as a female as I do a male. That means although I do like to dress en femme on occasions I love equally being a guy too. Here lays the issue. My profile classes my as TV. Therefore a lot of Members on here have "blocked my sex". There are some fantastic men and women I'd love to chat too and possibly meet but can't contact them! So frustrating. Most who contact me are guy wanting to meet Katz not Jase. I guess my profile name doesn't help. Lol. Just wish more would read my profile! So ultimately I'm asking this. (this is open to all genders). Would you be deterred from contacting or meeting me because I'm listed on here as a TV. I love to play and connect in all modes of attire! Not just as a leather clad girl! Xxx " Afraid I Would you be deterred from contacting or meeting you if you where a TV or Gender Fluid | |||
"Think they call that Gender Queer horrid name but that's government for you .
Genderqueer is different to gender fluid. It's not a horrible name that the government made up, it's a name that was adopted by those of us who identify as genderqueer."Whatever | |||
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