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Why single males struggle.

By *asker10 OP Man over a year ago

london

Just quick note to raise in support of the single males on here. This is not a dig at women, more a support/ justification of what I see going on. This site is great, but always remember to put things in context. I personally find that women on here have a warped _iew on mutual respect due to the inundated attention they get from the thousands of guys on here. While this not be there faults, I do think that this tone is what begins the short messages and potentially disrespectful responses women are often complaing about receiving from men. I think neither are fair or right, but I do acknowledge it's more a sign of frustration than malice or disrespect. After all there is nothing worse than someone who talks the talk, but is actually compleatly different from there over hyped online persona . I see plenty dudes writing saying they have been on here for over a year and still have not had a meet. Not trying to be funny, but go out and meet girls, they are so much more chilled, easy going and responsive in real life! I can see a vicious cycle of lack of confidence compounded by constant rejection, you have to break the cycle try something different.

Look, this isn't a preach or in any what patronising, sorry if you have read it like that. Just something that has been on my chest after reading countless related threads ect. Equally this is not a dig at girls, so please don't get on the defensive and turn this in to a thread it's not meant to be.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Spot on 100%

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But it is a dig at women on here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Making a very valid and honest point may come across as a dig to many women and cpls, but this would be a function of the absurdly inflated egos of so many on the site

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

To be fair most women on here can't win,if we ignore msgs ( which the rules say is acceptable ) we get slated and if we politely say no thanks we either get a turret of abuse or no reply and blocked

Maybe if more people actually took 2mins to read a full profile before firing off a msg then they'd be able to gauge wither they are a match and save alot of non replies or feelings of rejection. .just saying like

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Agreed. Very often I think women and couples (us included) react to the circumstances on fab in a very different way than we would off fab. And this obviously effects guys. I even notice Marc and I acting differently the longer we've been on (for example, we try to respond to all messages but the more we get from people we have already said no to, or the more one-liners, the more we find ourselves getting jaded and just deleting -something we said we would never do). I often wonder why more single guys don't just approach women outside of fab.

-Courtney

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

Attention women: It's all your fault!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I would rather receive a message saying sorry your not my type than nothing at all. I always reply after being knocked back with a thank you for the reply. It is really hard to meet, after all were on here to meet looking for the same thing I don't understand why we can't deal with rejection in an adult manner x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

aww, the ladies really don't like being criticized-shock

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Attention women: It's all your fault!"

Having read the post, I'm pretty sure this isn't what he is saying. Why does everything have to be over-simplified to the point of offense?

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I wasn't aware us chaps were struggling....

It's a mindset thing, think your struggling or expect to struggle? Then you will.

And I dunno about the rest of what you say, I find the ladies of fab just as amiable to chat to as anyone else, perhaps that's just my experience of the place.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Attention women: It's all your fault!

Having read the post, I'm pretty sure this isn't what he is saying. Why does everything have to be over-simplified to the point of offense?

-Courtney"

Because many have built a ridiculous fake persona/ego through the attention this site can bring to even the least attractive women. It must be hard to have that punctured.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"aww, the ladies really don't like being criticized-shock"

Some ladies on here do think they are Gods gift to all men, some single men think they are entitled to sex with anyone.

The operative word being SOME.

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By *ustcutieWoman over a year ago

edinburgh

I agree there are " some" women and couples on here with an over inflated sense of importance just the same as there are "some" guys who think it's instashag and we should drop our knickers just because they send a "wanna meet now" mail then get abusive when you say no thanks!

But for me it just makes it easier to spot the good ones

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Attention women: It's all your fault!

Having read the post, I'm pretty sure this isn't what he is saying. Why does everything have to be over-simplified to the point of offense?

-Courtney

Because many have built a ridiculous fake persona/ego through the attention this site can bring to even the least attractive women. It must be hard to have that punctured."

I would like to know how you know that. Has the attention changed you or altered your ego in any way? You must get a lot of attention from your pics and profile name

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

"aww, the ladies really don't like being criticized-shock

Some ladies on here do think they are Gods gift to all men, some single men think they are entitled to sex with anyone.

The operative word being SOME."

Bugger!

You beat me to it!

If the word 'some' was used more often in forum threads there's probably be less disharmony on many a subject.

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

"But it is a dig at women on here

Well if the women upped their game a bit and slept with more of the guys, we wouldn't have this problem!!!!

(For those who can't tell, tongue very firmly in cheek!)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've found that it's the people who think they're something special who talk about over-inflates egos. No one is above criticism on here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But it is a dig at women on here

Well if the women upped their game a bit and slept with more of the guys, we wouldn't have this problem!!!!

(For those who can't tell, tongue very firmly in cheek!)"

I'm trying, I'm trying but I'm not sure I can fuck men who message me from Edinburgh unless they are very, very, well-endowed

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By *ustcutieWoman over a year ago

edinburgh

"But it is a dig at women on here

Well if the women upped their game a bit and slept with more of the guys, we wouldn't have this problem!!!!

(For those who can't tell, tongue very firmly in cheek!)

I'm trying, I'm trying but I'm not sure I can fuck men who message me from Edinburgh unless they are very, very, well-endowed

That's ok I will take care of them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But it is a dig at women on here

Well if the women upped their game a bit and slept with more of the guys, we wouldn't have this problem!!!!

(For those who can't tell, tongue very firmly in cheek!)

I'm trying, I'm trying but I'm not sure I can fuck men who message me from Edinburgh unless they are very, very, well-endowed

That's ok I will take care of them

I'll give them your details

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Heres the thing......... this is a swingers site hence the name FABSWINGERS.

The whole concept of swinging is a couple wanting to explore their sexuality with other couples... if you want a "meet" go to a dating site.....

Men on here need to understand and accept that they dont call the shots in here. Far from it. In fact in my lifetime fab is the only place i've ever seen were the women wear the trousers and men will be eaten, chewed and spat out mo matter how tough they are.

Thats the way it is. If sungle men dont like it buy a set of golf clubs cos its the only holes you'll be putting your balls in... thank you. Amen

Stevie

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

See look at that team work! That's one person covering Scotland and one covering England, now we just need some volunteers for Wales and NI and we'll be sorted

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Im in NI...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Heres the thing......... this is a swingers site hence the name FABSWINGERS.

The whole concept of swinging is a couple wanting to explore their sexuality with other couples... if you want a "meet" go to a dating site.....

Thats the way it is. If sungle men dont like it buy a set of golf clubs cos its the only holes you'll be putting your balls in... thank you. Amen

Stevie "

Crap.

Been here years and never once had the shots called on me, been chewed up or anything even coming close to that...

We're all here for similar things and this is a great little community for that bar the odd person who insists on highlighting the differences between folk.

I'm quite lucky I guess in that I have the ability to see the positive and discard the negative bullshit see

I fail to see how anyone can't be happy on here, single guys or not...

It's all in the attitude

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Heres the thing......... this is a swingers site hence the name FABSWINGERS.

The whole concept of swinging is a couple wanting to explore their sexuality with other couples... if you want a "meet" go to a dating site.....

Thats the way it is. If sungle men dont like it buy a set of golf clubs cos its the only holes you'll be putting your balls in... thank you. Amen

Stevie "

What other holes do you put your balls in usually?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think you are right. Without wishing to be discourteous to anybody, due to the volume of single males to anyone else on here, couples and single females get a significant amount of interest which they are unlikely to get outside of the swinging world. It does lead some, not all, to have an inflated _iew of themselves.

With that said, I have met some incredibly nice people, some of whom I have felt are far out of my league!

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By *asker10 OP Man over a year ago

london

"But it is a dig at women on here

Really wasn't mean as that. Inevitable some would have that perception, hence the emphasis within the post that is wasn't. I'm a lover not a fighter

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By *asker10 OP Man over a year ago

london

"Heres the thing......... this is a swingers site hence the name FABSWINGERS.

The whole concept of swinging is a couple wanting to explore their sexuality with other couples... if you want a "meet" go to a dating site.....

Thats the way it is. If sungle men dont like it buy a set of golf clubs cos its the only holes you'll be putting your balls in... thank you. Amen

Stevie "

Well said, and I agree with what you say. Made me chuckle too. The only think I would add would that this site also offers people things they would perhaps not have on the regular dating scene. Wether it's group sex or particular kinks fab does provide a platform for that. I just feel there is a gulf of difference between males using fab as their sole female contact; to males who enjoy are looking to sexually explore, whatever that may entail.

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By *issmorganWoman over a year ago

Calderdale innit

"To be fair most women on here can't win,if we ignore msgs ( which the rules say is acceptable ) we get slated and if we politely say no thanks we either get a turret of abuse or no reply and blocked

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Heres the thing......... this is a swingers site hence the name FABSWINGERS.

The whole concept of swinging is a couple wanting to explore their sexuality with other couples... if you want a "meet" go to a dating site.....

Thats the way it is. If sungle men dont like it buy a set of golf clubs cos its the only holes you'll be putting your balls in... thank you. Amen

Stevie "

Only if you still live in the 60s

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You can't blame women for there being lots more men on here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And while us men are debating why men are treated SOOO unfairly the women and couples are shagging...... we lose.... epic fail

Amen..

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By *eorgy26Man over a year ago

Sutton

Your piece about going out and meeting people in real life is spot on.

I can't believe that so many guys on here don't seem to get that. If you struggle with confidence and success in real life coming here is the worst thing you can do.

I'm a very average looking guy but have no issue whatsoever meeting people in real life. On here it is a different story.

My message to all the guys struggling on here is to get some balls. Get out there in the real world where there isn't 10 guys vying for each girls attention and the demands of being 6ft plus, muscular, rich, etc etc.. magically disappear with a confident opening gambit.

Plus you don't have to worry about sending the perfect face pic, unless you happen to be wearing a mask but that would be a bit weird to say the least!

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By *oxesMan over a year ago

Southend, Essex

"To be fair most women on here can't win,if we ignore msgs ( which the rules say is acceptable ) we get slated and if we politely say no thanks we either get a turret of abuse or no reply and blocked

Do people really give you abuse for saying no? 0_o

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And while us men are debating why men are treated SOOO unfairly the women and couples are shagging...... we lose.... epic fail

Amen.. "

That's because this "swinging" site is the perfect place to meet people to shag. I only shag single men so I'm here under false pretences

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By *eorgy26Man over a year ago

Sutton

"You can't blame women for there being lots more men on here. "

Absolutely!

However I am curious to know how many of the women on here are actually married. There is a hell of a lot of 30+ "single" ladies, way more than I would expect in the outside world.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Tuts at you misslovely you wee fake!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You can't blame women for there being lots more men on here.

Absolutely!

However I am curious to know how many of the women on here are actually married. There is a hell of a lot of 30+ "single" ladies, way more than I would expect in the outside world. "

There will be some. I know quite a few single 30+ women. I'm one,my daughter is another,my sister in law's sister,quite a few friends from school are now single. My daughters have single friends too.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There are many problems on this site and others.

Men join because they think every woman on here are just waiting to spread there legs for them and when it doesn't happen they are shocked and disappointed. But then they truly don't understand the lifestyle.

Some women and couples do have overinflated egos, not there own fault as there are plenty of men to inflate them.

But again it is only some. And although I don't look at single guys, I am sure there are a few of those with inflated ego's too.

It does surprise me at how many 'sluts' there are on fab. I wonder how many actually are and if this may influence the type of message they receive? By the same token, heaven, if there is such a place, must be empty judging by the amount of 'angels' too.

If you are a single male, a single female or a couple if you use the site properly it does work. It certainly has for me. I treat people as I like to be treated. I still get non reply's or a no thanks. That's fine by me. I never understand why people would get abusive, it's hardly going to change the recipients mind!

At the end of the day fab is a diverse society, what works for one, doesn't work for another. I think looks are important to a lot, especially female and couples, because they can choose, which is fine by me. Sometimes that may be at the expense of personality and the person, but isn't that the same in 'real life'?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A lot of single guys aim their messages at the female half of the couple instead of the the couple after all we are a couple and play as a couple.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Tuts at you misslovely you wee fake!!

There should be a name for us singles who do the same thing as couples. Something to sum up the modern day outlook on sex outside of a relationship with multiple partners. We still swing,just from one partner to a different one. I swing backwards and forwards between my regular partners,I'm a yoyo

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A lot of single guys aim their messages at the female half of the couple instead of the the couple after all we are a couple and play as a couple."

I have read this so many times, I don't understand why some guys don't get that its a bad idea as it really is

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You can't blame women for there being lots more men on here.

Absolutely!

However I am curious to know how many of the women on here are actually married. There is a hell of a lot of 30+ "single" ladies, way more than I would expect in the outside world. "

I'm 47 & single. Wasn't single from when I was 19 to last year but I sure as hell am now

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I would say to anyone aged 20 - 40 have a good hard think about what you want from life. Why are you single? Do you really want to stay single? If the answer to that is no, then are you still looking for your partner in the real world? Are you using fab to tick over while you're waiting for mr or mrs right? If that's the case then it's probably why you're annoyed as now you've found out its not insta shag. Its not even POF. For many on here swinging is a life style. Not something to dip your toes into before you find a real relationship. And don't forget, until the world runs low on horny guys it's always going to be hard to meet women on here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A lot of single guys aim their messages at the female half of the couple instead of the the couple after all we are a couple and play as a couple."

Maybe because the profile draws attraction to the female and the man doesn't want sex with the husband. It's not difficult to work out. If both men were bi and interested then I'm thinking they would have a nice little chat. Everyone knows the wife is in charge anyway

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I would say to anyone aged 20 - 40 have a good hard think about what you want from life. Why are you single? Do you really want to stay single? If the answer to that is no, then are you still looking for your partner in the real world? Are you using fab to tick over while you're waiting for mr or mrs right? If that's the case then it's probably why you're annoyed as now you've found out its not insta shag. Its not even POF. For many on here swinging is a life style. Not something to dip your toes into before you find a real relationship. And don't forget, until the world runs low on horny guys it's always going to be hard to meet women on here."

A voice of reason

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yoyo swingers.... hmmm....... we're YINGERS!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yoyo swingers.... hmmm....... we're YINGERS!!!

I'm trying to swing away from any references to swingers. That's for old couples who live in the past. We need something fresh and new that encompasses the freedom of sex without the constraints of a relationship but not looking for a meet,fuck and go sex life. Freedom fuckers

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

"But it is a dig at women on here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sounds like a terrorist organisation.... do we get to dress up in balaclavas and carry big guns?

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By *eorgy26Man over a year ago

Sutton

In regards to the comment on men inflating women's egos on here, you'd have to be pretty damn stupid to buy into what internet men who just want to get laid are saying!

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Heres the thing......... this is a swingers site hence the name FABSWINGERS.

The whole concept of swinging is a couple wanting to explore their sexuality with other couples... if you want a "meet" go to a dating site.....

Thats the way it is. If sungle men dont like it buy a set of golf clubs cos its the only holes you'll be putting your balls in... thank you. Amen

Stevie "

Men can call as many shots as anyone else on the site. Many do, and choose not to jump through hoops and bow to demands.

As for the swinging being just for couples? No. That's 'wife swapping' - swinging moved on from being solely that years ago. How do you think the couples looking for an extra guy or two would cope if it was couples only?

The site is just a contact tool. Always has been and always will be. Use it to the best of your abilities and have no expectancies and you'll never be disappointed.

Expect anything - be you make, female or couple? And you're setting yourself up to fail.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sounds like a terrorist organisation.... do we get to dress up in balaclavas and carry big guns?

If that's your kink

I don't wear rubber though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But it is a dig at women on here

Well if the women upped their game a bit and slept with more of the guys, we wouldn't have this problem!!!!

(For those who can't tell, tongue very firmly in cheek!)

I'm trying, I'm trying but I'm not sure I can fuck men who message me from Edinburgh unless they are very, very, well-endowed

Not even worked your way through your home town yet!

(giggling)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A rubber balaclava??? Lmfao

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In regards to the comment on men inflating women's egos on here, you'd have to be pretty damn stupid to buy into what internet men who just want to get laid are saying!"

We have a larger pool to select from,it doesn't mean every man is to our taste or available to us. There are plenty of men doing just fine on here and in the real world of clubs and parties. So many people focus on this site as the be all of sex or swinging. It's just somewhere you can contact people,read about experiences,make friends and learn. Anyone not willing to invest time will be disappointed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's so easy for women on here isn't it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A rubber balaclava??? Lmfao

You've never seen a rubber balaclava??

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By *eorgy26Man over a year ago

Sutton

"In regards to the comment on men inflating women's egos on here, you'd have to be pretty damn stupid to buy into what internet men who just want to get laid are saying!

Did you quote the wrong post?

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By *irty fun with couplesMan over a year ago

near Brampton

You seem to be saying men shouldn't be on fab maybe there looking for some one percific who does things that he is looking for and as you couldn't just go up to them in a bar and ask them if there in to certain things after all fab is meant to be a sex site for singles and couples

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By *ustcutieWoman over a year ago

edinburgh

"In regards to the comment on men inflating women's egos on here, you'd have to be pretty damn stupid to buy into what internet men who just want to get laid are saying!"

Exactly

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In regards to the comment on men inflating women's egos on here, you'd have to be pretty damn stupid to buy into what internet men who just want to get laid are saying!

Did you quote the wrong post?

I think I was going to write something about egos and distracted myself, before the part I posted. Sorry,I have severe brain fog today.

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By *eorgy26Man over a year ago

Sutton

"You seem to be saying men shouldn't be on fab maybe there looking for some one percific who does things that he is looking for and as you couldn't just go up to them in a bar and ask them if there in to certain things after all fab is meant to be a sex site for singles and couples "

The point is that if you are a single male who does attend events then you are far far more likely to get laid going out to a bar than on here.

Couples and people actively involved in the scene would invariably have a lot more fun!

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By *eorgy26Man over a year ago

Sutton

I think I was going to write something about egos and distracted myself, before the part I posted. Sorry,I have severe brain fog today.

For what it's worth I agree with what you wrote!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just quick note to raise in support of the single males on here. This is not a dig at women, more a support/ justification of what I see going on. This site is great, but always remember to put things in context. I personally find that women on here have a warped _iew on mutual respect due to the inundated attention they get from the thousands of guys on here. While this not be there faults, I do think that this tone is what begins the short messages and potentially disrespectful responses women are often complaing about receiving from men. I think neither are fair or right, but I do acknowledge it's more a sign of frustration than malice or disrespect. After all there is nothing worse than someone who talks the talk, but is actually compleatly different from there over hyped online persona . I see plenty dudes writing saying they have been on here for over a year and still have not had a meet. Not trying to be funny, but go out and meet girls, they are so much more chilled, easy going and responsive in real life! I can see a vicious cycle of lack of confidence compounded by constant rejection, you have to break the cycle try something different.

How is that anything other than a dig at women?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Think youre getting a balaclava and gimp.mask mixed up

lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Heres the thing......... this is a swingers site hence the name FABSWINGERS.

The whole concept of swinging is a couple wanting to explore their sexuality with other couples... if you want a "meet" go to a dating site.....

Thats the way it is. If sungle men dont like it buy a set of golf clubs cos its the only holes you'll be putting your balls in... thank you. Amen

Stevie

Men can call as many shots as anyone else on the site. Many do, and choose not to jump through hoops and bow to demands.

The site is just a contact tool. Always has been and always will be. Use it to the best of your abilities and have no expectancies and you'll never be disappointed.

Expect anything - be you make, female or couple? And you're setting yourself up to fail.

Historically swinging wasn't about couples. The swapping car keys thing brought it to the attention of the masses but it was all about free love in its truest sense originally.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But it is a dig at women on here

Well if the women upped their game a bit and slept with more of the guys, we wouldn't have this problem!!!!

(For those who can't tell, tongue very firmly in cheek!)

I'm trying, I'm trying but I'm not sure I can fuck men who message me from Edinburgh unless they are very, very, well-endowed

Not even worked your way through your home town yet!

(giggling) "

You've never asked to meet me

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Heres the thing......... this is a swingers site hence the name FABSWINGERS.

The whole concept of swinging is a couple wanting to explore their sexuality with other couples... if you want a "meet" go to a dating site.....

Thats the way it is. If sungle men dont like it buy a set of golf clubs cos its the only holes you'll be putting your balls in... thank you. Amen

Stevie

Men can call as many shots as anyone else on the site. Many do, and choose not to jump through hoops and bow to demands.

The site is just a contact tool. Always has been and always will be. Use it to the best of your abilities and have no expectancies and you'll never be disappointed.

Expect anything - be you make, female or couple? And you're setting yourself up to fail.

Historically swinging wasn't about couples. The swapping car keys thing brought it to the attention of the masses but it was all about free love in its truest sense originally."

I agree.

Ask some couples though and they'd argue it's never changed and that singles have never been 'worthy' of what is effectively a bullshit label called 'swinger'.

It's their right of course. But doesn't make them right!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Think youre getting a balaclava and gimp.mask mixed up

lol"

It's the same design,you can't knit with rubber

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think the thing that makes me laugh is the long lists of demands on women and couples profiles, each to their own and everyone likes a certain type of thing but some of them are just ridiculous! When I see them I just chuckle and move on

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By *andy_tomMan over a year ago

wolverhampton

There are not enough females to go around , so there is not one for every one on this site , thats a facked jack ,

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"To be fair most women on here can't win,if we ignore msgs ( which the rules say is acceptable ) we get slated and if we politely say no thanks we either get a turret of abuse or no reply and blocked

Me personally would appreciate a reply even though it would be a no thanks, I also take the time to read the profile because it gives me a general idea of what they are looking for.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the thing that makes me laugh is the long lists of demands on women and couples profiles, each to their own and everyone likes a certain type of thing but some of them are just ridiculous! When I see them I just chuckle and move on"

If you had an idea of what men can be like on here you may understand why women capitalise and demand on profiles. I have a few things at the bottom of my profile I'm not looking for. In the last few days alone I have had requests for car and outdoor sex and to go to a club. If you wan't something specific you can only filter by age and gender,so you have to write it on your profile. They may just be fed up with saying the same things over and over.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Heres the thing......... this is a swingers site hence the name FABSWINGERS.

The whole concept of swinging is a couple wanting to explore their sexuality with other couples... if you want a "meet" go to a dating site.....

Thats the way it is. If sungle men dont like it buy a set of golf clubs cos its the only holes you'll be putting your balls in... thank you. Amen

Stevie

Men can call as many shots as anyone else on the site. Many do, and choose not to jump through hoops and bow to demands.

The site is just a contact tool. Always has been and always will be. Use it to the best of your abilities and have no expectancies and you'll never be disappointed.

Expect anything - be you make, female or couple? And you're setting yourself up to fail.

Historically swinging wasn't about couples. The swapping car keys thing brought it to the attention of the masses but it was all about free love in its truest sense originally.

I agree.

Ask some couples though and they'd argue it's never changed and that singles have never been 'worthy' of what is effectively a bullshit label called 'swinger'.

It's their right of course. But doesn't make them right!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"To be fair most women on here can't win,if we ignore msgs ( which the rules say is acceptable ) we get slated and if we politely say no thanks we either get a turret of abuse or no reply and blocked

Me personally would appreciate a reply even though it would be a no thanks, I also take the time to read the profile because it gives me a general idea of what they are looking for. "

An awful lot of men don't even look at a profile let alone read the lot. Some read and say-Oh I see you're not into car sex but I have a very big, nice car. That is why people rant and demand.

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By *andb69Couple over a year ago

leeds

"There are not enough females to go around , so there is not one for every one on this site , thats a facked jack ,

Exactly. It's a simple case of mathematics. If you could walk into a hall filled with a thousand women and told you could pick one you would choose the one that best suited your ideal - and I bet you wouldn't go round apologising to the other nine hundred and ninety nine women explaining why you hadn't chosen them. That's fab in reverse.

If you don't like it but want to swing go to a club and put some effort in - it always works for us.

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By *razedcatMan over a year ago

London / Herts

A very profound point OP, but it overlooks one important aspect of the situation - a lot of people simply aren't in a position to just go out and meet women and couples.

Take myself. For 40 hours a week, I'm cooped up in a library. When I'm not there, I'm at home trying to scrape a bit of money together as an academic researcher. I have a few weekends free to see my non swing friends (we usually go out for dinner), and I use the gym for about four hours per week.

When i do bump into girls, it's always a random occurrence, like striking up a conversation in a queue. It's not something I can actively pursue. Fab is the best, most convenient outlet right now.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Post says - "go out and meet girls, they are so much more chilled, easy going and responsive in real life! I can see a vicious cycle of lack of confidence compounded by constant rejection, you have to break the cycle try something different." I so agree with that - well done for showing such a good attitude m x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Single men struggle because of their sheer numbers over single women and couples looking for single men. Quite simply, those with the greatest choice can afford to be fussy.

Some (not all) do seem to think that this also gives them carte blanche to be incredibly rude and dismissive. I only message people with a matched profile yet most messages are simply ignored. The profile descriptions and attitude of some on here seem utterly delusional but clearly they still attract enough attention to get away with it. Rather than persist in fanning their egos, I now prefer to move on and chat to those with manners.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Making a very valid and honest point may come across as a dig to many women and cpls, but this would be a function of the absurdly inflated egos of so many on the site"

Spot on, the egos of some of the women on here would have given Freud and Jung hours of amusement

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By *andm288Couple over a year ago

oxford

Well we received a crap message from a local single guy who had only recently joined the site

Hey u ?

Was the content of the message

Needless to say we replied with

That's original

Then we got a message full of obscenities using the C word

Please guys think of a interesting message & read the profile first

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Making a very valid and honest point may come across as a dig to many women and cpls, but this would be a function of the absurdly inflated egos of so many on the site

Spot on, the egos of some of the women on here would have given Freud and Jung hours of amusement

And so would the many men who think sending a Fancy a fuck message is the way of meeting women or couples on here.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan over a year ago

London

I honestly don't have experience with woman having 'big egos' on here. I have had plenty of messages ignored, or 'no thank you' replies, and that's 100% fine and nothing to do with ego.

What messages are you guys getting? "No, you're far beneath me! I'd never touch the likes of you!"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Making a very valid and honest point may come across as a dig to many women and cpls, but this would be a function of the absurdly inflated egos of so many on the site

Spot on, the egos of some of the women on here would have given Freud and Jung hours of amusement

And so would the many men who think sending a Fancy a fuck message is the way of meeting women or couples on here."

I agree, many single guys on here don't do themselves any favours. However not ALL single are like that and we decent guys are always being tarred with the same brush.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I honestly don't have experience with woman having 'big egos' on here. I have had plenty of messages ignored, or 'no thank you' replies, and that's 100% fine and nothing to do with ego.

What messages are you guys getting? "No, you're far beneath me! I'd never touch the likes of you!"

Yes I did once have a similar worded reply from someone

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By *eorgy26Man over a year ago

Sutton

And so would the many men who think sending a Fancy a fuck message is the way of meeting women or couples on here."

Hey bb u wun sum fuk?

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By *oxy_minxWoman over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

I don't know why men think women have it easy on here.

Yes we may get more messages, but having more messages does not make it easier if they are all from men who don't have a profile that is longer than one line that tells you bugger all and a picture of their cock!

It just makes you ignore them, as I always read a profile before I read a message. So for me, many of my messages I don't bother with.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I honestly don't have experience with woman having 'big egos' on here. I have had plenty of messages ignored, or 'no thank you' replies, and that's 100% fine and nothing to do with ego.

What messages are you guys getting? "No, you're far beneath me! I'd never touch the likes of you!"

Yes I did once have a similar worded reply from someone

We often ignore messages from men who have repeat messaged. We've only ever sent a semi abusive message as a response to profiles with fake pics and abusive messages. No need for it at all.

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By *eorgy26Man over a year ago

Sutton

"I don't know why men think women have it easy on here.

It just makes you ignore them, as I always read a profile before I read a message. So for me, many of my messages I don't bother with.

Would you rather have to sift through the bullshit to find a match or never have a response at all?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I honestly don't have experience with woman having 'big egos' on here. I have had plenty of messages ignored, or 'no thank you' replies, and that's 100% fine and nothing to do with ego.

What messages are you guys getting? "No, you're far beneath me! I'd never touch the likes of you!"

Yes I did once have a similar worded reply from someone

We often ignore messages from men who have repeat messaged. We've only ever sent a semi abusive message as a response to profiles with fake pics and abusive messages. No need for it at all."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Single men struggle because of their sheer numbers over single women and couples looking for single men. Quite simply, those with the greatest choice can afford to be fussy.

When it comes to the numbers, sorry but that isn't the case. I am just as fussy on here as i am in real life and if every guy who messaged me was my type, i'd meet them! It's not the amount of guys on here that's the problem, it's the amount of guys who don't read profiles or worse, the amount that do read but message anyway thinking they're "the exception".

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't know why men think women have it easy on here.

It just makes you ignore them, as I always read a profile before I read a message. So for me, many of my messages I don't bother with.

Would you rather have to sift through the bullshit to find a match or never have a response at all?"

You didn't get a response from me because YOU DIDN'T READ MY PROFILE.

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By *razedcatMan over a year ago

London / Herts

I think we can all agree that regardless of what category you fall into (single male, couple etc),there will be members of your group that are rude and antisocial. These negative traits cannot be attributed to one group in particular.

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By *eorgy26Man over a year ago

Sutton

"I don't know why men think women have it easy on here.

It just makes you ignore them, as I always read a profile before I read a message. So for me, many of my messages I don't bother with.

Would you rather have to sift through the bullshit to find a match or never have a response at all?

You didn't get a response from me because YOU DIDN'T READ MY PROFILE. "

Lol I don't even know who you are, you angry person.

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By *ovelythick1Man over a year ago

Swansea

I know women get mails in far greater quantities than single men.

Therefore I understand that they have to filter and respond to the mails that they express an interest in.

It would be ideal if in cases like above that there is an option that one could use, which would be in the form of an auto response. This could automatically send a auto reply saying, quite simply thank for your email but no thanks.

After that it is up us males to deal with it in an adult manner. After all we are all over 18 are we not?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Single men struggle because of their sheer numbers over single women and couples looking for single men. Quite simply, those with the greatest choice can afford to be fussy.

Just run a site check.

No of people within 5 miles of my house;

Women looking for men = 25

Couples looking for men = 19

Men looking for women = 300+

When it comes to numbers, this is most certainly the case!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't know why men think women have it easy on here.

It just makes you ignore them, as I always read a profile before I read a message. So for me, many of my messages I don't bother with.

Would you rather have to sift through the bullshit to find a match or never have a response at all?

You didn't get a response from me because YOU DIDN'T READ MY PROFILE.

Lol I don't even know who you are, you angry person. "

I was showing you that the reason you don't get responses is because you don't read profiles but whatever works for you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And so would the many men who think sending a Fancy a fuck message is the way of meeting women or couples on here.

Hey bb u wun sum fuk?

I thought you'd never ask

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think we can all agree that regardless of what category you fall into (single male, couple etc),there will be members of your group that are rude and antisocial. These negative traits cannot be attributed to one group in particular. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Single men struggle because of their sheer numbers over single women and couples looking for single men. Quite simply, those with the greatest choice can afford to be fussy.

Just run a site check.

No of people within 5 miles of my house;

Women looking for men = 25

Couples looking for men = 19

Men looking for women = 300+

When it comes to numbers, this is most certainly the case!

Sorry forgot to add

Men looking for MF couples = 193

All within the 40 to 50 age range, all other filters off.

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By *eorgy26Man over a year ago

Sutton

"I don't know why men think women have it easy on here.

It just makes you ignore them, as I always read a profile before I read a message. So for me, many of my messages I don't bother with.

Would you rather have to sift through the bullshit to find a match or never have a response at all?

You didn't get a response from me because YOU DIDN'T READ MY PROFILE.

Lol I don't even know who you are, you angry person.

I was showing you that the reason you don't get responses is because you don't read profiles but whatever works for you."

I don't know you, you don't know me. I always read profiles because it gives me an indication of someone's intelligence and attitude.

You being a prime example of the kind of person I want to avoid! I wish whoever you get involved with the best of luck.

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By *ordonBennettMan over a year ago

dover

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Miss inmocent can you message me? I like your sense of humour

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Single men struggle because of their sheer numbers over single women and couples looking for single men. Quite simply, those with the greatest choice can afford to be fussy.

Just run a site check.

No of people within 5 miles of my house;

Women looking for men = 25

Couples looking for men = 19

Men looking for women = 300+

When it comes to numbers, this is most certainly the case!

Similar stats here. As a single man myself I have always taken the _iew you can either be rude/abusive or accept that's the way things are. I choose the latter over the former every time. It's only sex after all

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't know why men think women have it easy on here.

It just makes you ignore them, as I always read a profile before I read a message. So for me, many of my messages I don't bother with.

Would you rather have to sift through the bullshit to find a match or never have a response at all?

You didn't get a response from me because YOU DIDN'T READ MY PROFILE.

Lol I don't even know who you are, you angry person.

I was showing you that the reason you don't get responses is because you don't read profiles but whatever works for you.

I don't know you, you don't know me. I always read profiles because it gives me an indication of someone's intelligence and attitude.

You being a prime example of the kind of person I want to avoid! I wish whoever you get involved with the best of luck. "

Well you didn't read mine and your message suggested you couldn't wait to meet me, otherwise why did you message me? Women on this site just want to be shown some common courtesy and when men moan about not getting responses, a lot of the time it's because of things they're doing to put women off. Taking 2 minutes to read a profile should be the most basic thing but it's really rare.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"To be fair most women on here can't win,if we ignore msgs ( which the rules say is acceptable ) we get slated and if we politely say no thanks we either get a turret of abuse or no reply and blocked

Agreed....and this happens even more to younger, newer members who get bombarded by hoards of guys, many of whom, we suspect are basically wannabes, maybe married etc.

Last week I was with one such younger, newer member.....during a re-hydration break we got yo chatting about her experience with fab and she mentioned getting bombarded with pointless messages from guys way outside her criteria or 200+ miles away. If she doesn't answer or sends a polite no thanks she gets more messages branding her a time waster etc..... Who is actually wasting the time here?

Out of interest I asked how many messages?

The little yellow box on the top of her mobile page read "632" messages..... She had cleared her in box 3 days earlier!

So actually OP....I can see where some ladies do get a bad impression of the guys on here....the ones with a shotgun approach and no meets after 12 months.....no wonder!

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By *asker10 OP Man over a year ago

london

For sure, I agree with both your comments. I am often left astounded but the small mind mentalities of some both males and females; on what I would perceive to be a pretty liberal and open platform. A swinging website.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Mate the reason men struggle on here is they outnumber the women ten to one and not all of those women are the real deal.

Imagine walking into a football stadium and saying "I'm going to pull in here" .

What's your chances of pulling at a football match unless of course you are a premiership pro footballer? Then you would have to beat certain types women off with shit covered stick!I said certain type of women NOT ALL remember.

Most men on here are fucking around and have little chance never mind intention of meeting anyone so the few real women get pissed off with having their chain yanked by fantasist tossers.

If you are a single geezer and you want to "Try" the scene try a club. You'll still get rejections in some ways more often than being d*unk out of your mind at 2pm at the local nightclub but at least you'll prove to people you are real and they can ask questions.

I've met some really nice people in the scene and some right devious warped manipulative bastards but that's life out of the scene as well!

Blokes you pay your money take your chance and if you can't take rejection like an adult or you are going to let some women on a power trip fuck with your head don't swing.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

it's sadly part of some people's life to drag others down rather than raise their own game.....

if you consider yourself an equal to all on here, conduct yourself so and focus on the people you TRULY match, it is not difficult.

the second you start to sell out, you start to lose the game.

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By *eorgy26Man over a year ago

Sutton

I think you are a little confused. I have never messaged you before. Your profile says you are in Glasgow, why would I bother with that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My messages have mostly been ignored. When i have had no thank you replies it's been very polite. I've never had a get fecked type message yet. What's got me down on here is the few that suddenly dissappear and I have had one timewaster.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think you are a little confused. I have never messaged you before. Your profile says you are in Glasgow, why would I bother with that.

Sure thing pal. Whatever you say.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Interesting there is more single females than couples looking for men in your area, I had always assumed it was more couples than single females

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"See look at that team work! That's one person covering Scotland and one covering England, now we just need some volunteers for Wales and NI and we'll be sorted

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By *eorgy26Man over a year ago

Sutton

Seriously, are you ok?

What do you get out of this fantasy?

Let's look at this objectively. Why on earth would someone in London randomally message someone in Glasgow?

Secondly, are you saying that you remember every single guy that messages you and hold a personal greivance.

Stop with the bullshit please.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Miss inmocent can you message me? I like your sense of humour

Can't you message me???

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By *andkCouple over a year ago

Wisbech

As a couple the few single guys we've met have come from a random message that's stood out from the crowd. There isn't enough time to answer all the messages we get and how do you respond to a "hi iam local" and a pic of a flaccid ill looking cock. We use the how you rate yourself, if you consider yourself a 6 don't bother messaging a 10, if you would get a result in the real world you probably won't here either

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"it's sadly part of some people's life to drag others down rather than raise their own game.....

if you consider yourself an equal to all on here, conduct yourself so and focus on the people you TRULY match, it is not difficult.

the second you start to sell out, you start to lose the game."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Some men struggle, some don't. Some women have over inflated egos and probably did before even joining this site, some don't. Anyway, its too hot for all this, anyone wanna get naked ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yoyo swingers.... hmmm....... we're YINGERS!!!

That's a winning statement x

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By *oxesMan over a year ago

Southend, Essex

"Yoyo swingers.... hmmm....... we're YINGERS!!!

That's a winning statement x

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Some men struggle, some don't. Some women have over inflated egos and probably did before even joining this site, some don't. Anyway, its too hot for all this, anyone wanna get naked ?

i agree..... (other than the bit about getting naked!)

if you get that all across life... i don't see why people think you shouldn't get a cross-section of that here!!!

people are so fixated about how everyone else gets about their lives sometime to the detriment of their own....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yoyo swingers.... hmmm....... we're YINGERS!!!

That's a winning statement x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There is also a natural biological reason there are many many more men on here than women looking for sex and before anyone says "that's not true, I'm not like that" this is a generalisation based on fact and if you don't like it then take it up with Charles Darwin.

It's quite simply the different way both sexes are subconsciously thinking about sex and partners. Men/males want to spread there genes far and wide ensuring the mass continuation of their bloodline and hence want to shag as many females as possible, women/females are looking for the best single male to produce the strongest, healthiest and most secure offspring... FACT! and at the risk of repeating myself I stress this is a generalisation, you have to keep in mind that 99.9% of all women are not on swinging sites for this very reason where as a much higher proportion of men are... FACT.

I know we're not on here to reproduce but the desire for the sexual act is so embedded in us that we seek oppertunities to indulge in it as often as possible.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"To be fair most women on here can't win,if we ignore msgs ( which the rules say is acceptable ) we get slated and if we politely say no thanks we either get a turret of abuse or no reply and blocked

This! And the OP also has some valid points. But hey! We're all people after all! Love and peace

(blimey did I just turn into Ringo Starr there?) xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But it is a dig at women on here

Well if the women upped their game a bit and slept with more of the guys, we wouldn't have this problem!!!!

(For those who can't tell, tongue very firmly in cheek!)

I'm trying, I'm trying but I'm not sure I can fuck men who message me from Edinburgh unless they are very, very, well-endowed

Bravo

LOL

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Heres the thing......... this is a swingers site hence the name FABSWINGERS.

The whole concept of swinging is a couple wanting to explore their sexuality with other couples... if you want a "meet" go to a dating site.....

Thats the way it is. If sungle men dont like it buy a set of golf clubs cos its the only holes you'll be putting your balls in... thank you. Amen

Stevie "

Oh that's where I'm going wrong! Swinging is only for couples! I'll get me coat!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ladies on the site ( and many couples ) are damned if they damned if they don't reply - the site could improve automated responses to help but fundamentally it's best if every thinks one thing every time the log in - it's meant to be fun !!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I did a search as well and this was for whole of London that wanted to meet today for "anything, anywhere"

0 women lol

46 male

15 couples

I had to double check the women to see if it really was no one and its right its no one. So you see in a city with 9 million people not a single woman lool THATS the reason men struggle lol which means a woman could have technically in a month to shag 46 people if she wanted, so that why I keep saying fab is a cock fest for women

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By *eltintomysmileMan over a year ago

West Midlands

I don't struggle would not consider myself the most handsome or the most ugly I am mr average i suppose and i have met and still meeting some lovely ladies on here who are friends aswell as sharing funtimes, I find if you are yourself be natural try and crack a joke or two and dont jump in straight away expecting a shag then most ladies will respond, although there are a few that frustrate me you send messages and you get nothing back or sometimes an insult does show a lack of respect but I suppose with everything its the minority that spoil it for the rest

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"To be fair most women on here can't win,if we ignore msgs ( which the rules say is acceptable ) we get slated and if we politely say no thanks we either get a turret of abuse or no reply and blocked

Me personally would appreciate a reply even though it would be a no thanks, I also take the time to read the profile because it gives me a general idea of what they are looking for.

An awful lot of men don't even look at a profile let alone read the lot. Some read and say-Oh I see you're not into car sex but I have a very big, nice car. That is why people rant and demand."

I agree with you. Ive rewritten my profile, just put the basics on it, still a bit long but not as long as what it was. well, hopefully.

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By *eltintomysmileMan over a year ago

West Midlands

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By *eltintomysmileMan over a year ago

West Midlands

"To be fair most women on here can't win,if we ignore msgs ( which the rules say is acceptable ) we get slated and if we politely say no thanks we either get a turret of abuse or no reply and blocked

Me personally would appreciate a reply even though it would be a no thanks, I also take the time to read the profile because it gives me a general idea of what they are looking for.

An awful lot of men don't even look at a profile let alone read the lot. Some read and say-Oh I see you're not into car sex but I have a very big, nice car. That is why people rant and demand.

I agree with you. Ive rewritten my profile, just put the basics on it, still a bit long but not as long as what it was. well, hopefully."

That is a fair enough statement I have found that reading the profile or replying to status gets more response than anything and if a lady comes back and says sorry your not my type then I just wish them good luck, although two ladies who have said that to me I have ended up having fun with so I dont always see that as the end game lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't know why men think women have it easy on here.

It just makes you ignore them, as I always read a profile before I read a message. So for me, many of my messages I don't bother with.

Would you rather have to sift through the bullshit to find a match or never have a response at all?"

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By *cMohawk_AdventureGirlCouple over a year ago

Glasgow

"To be fair most women on here can't win,if we ignore msgs ( which the rules say is acceptable ) we get slated and if we politely say no thanks we either get a turret of abuse or no reply and blocked

Spot on! I'd also suggest tailoring your message to the profile - if they've provided something more in-depth, then use it! Respond to points they raise, say what you liked in their description. Engaging with a person or couple as individuals is a pretty solid strategy I reckon.

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By *ll 4 herCouple over a year ago

Bury/Bolton

"To be fair most women on here can't win,if we ignore msgs ( which the rules say is acceptable ) we get slated and if we politely say no thanks we either get a turret of abuse or no reply and blocked

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By *amparaWoman over a year ago

biggleswade

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look mate you are totally right and don't ever be sorry about speaking the truth even if some can't handle it

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By *urvymamaWoman over a year ago

Doncaster

"To be fair most women on here can't win,if we ignore msgs ( which the rules say is acceptable ) we get slated and if we politely say no thanks we either get a turret of abuse or no reply and blocked

So true in the last 30mins I've had one msg to request a short notice meet, one from a guy who lives bloody miles away, and one with nothing but 18 cock shots attached, and one asking for phone fun all are opposite to what I ask for in my profile, then after replying with thanks but no thanks I got one response of why? And one telling me to get my nost unstuck out of my fat arse! (I was the most gorgeous woman on the site not two minutes earlier) and the others have deleted and blocked me which is fair enough. Some guys do themselves no favours and I've not by any means got an inflated ego as I'm over run my choice I am exactly who I am and that I won't be for everyone, I just refuse to put up with crap like that as do many women on the site

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

look mate you are totally right and don't ever be sorry about speaking the truth even if some can't handle it

So you agree that you have a warped _iew of mutual respect then ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"To be fair most women on here can't win,if we ignore msgs ( which the rules say is acceptable ) we get slated and if we politely say no thanks we either get a turret of abuse or no reply and blocked

There's a lot to be said for taking an extra minute to read a profile, many guys who struggle probably don't then get frustrated and blame the non replies on women with "overinflated" egos.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

look mate you are totally right and don't ever be sorry about speaking the truth even if some can't handle it

He's talking about you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Or you could just do what I do and don't message anyone, well very few less than 10 and that way you avoid disappointment.

It's also as much to do with your general locale, there aren't that many single women in my area and of those few who I'd think I'd actually want to have sex with.

I'm of the _iew it's no big deal if I don't get lucky. I've had far worse to deal with and been online since the early 90s so am used to the whole thing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *pencerabc123Man over a year ago

Brighton

That's so on the ball and we all know it's true and makes sense.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Lot of genuine nice, attractive women on here who are easy to talk to and do engage in converstion and meet all types of men, realistic women.

Then you have the women (minority) who are only looking for well hung, dark haired, muscular men blah blah.....but these women have fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. Its pretty comical reading their profiles and looking at their pics

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

"..but these women have fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. Its pretty comical reading their profiles and looking at their pics "

but why worry about them, they are doing their thing and if people are meeting them and they are happy, who cares.

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By *pencerabc123Man over a year ago

Brighton

That's so on the ball and we all know it's true and makes sense.

Well done The Chichester man

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"..but these women have fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. Its pretty comical reading their profiles and looking at their pics

but why worry about them, they are doing their thing and if people are meeting them and they are happy, who cares.

Not worrying about them at all, just an observation I made

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Women don't need a great profile tho for a man to fuck them tho as most men would fuck anyone lol.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

"..but these women have fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. Its pretty comical reading their profiles and looking at their pics

but why worry about them, they are doing their thing and if people are meeting them and they are happy, who cares.

Not worrying about them at all, just an observation I made"

but by being so disingenuous, is there any need.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"..but these women have fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. Its pretty comical reading their profiles and looking at their pics

but why worry about them, they are doing their thing and if people are meeting them and they are happy, who cares.

Exactly, why waste time on someone you have no interest in ? Way too many people on here worry far too much about how others go about things on here. They don't affect anyone else so ignore them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm a single male who has been on here a few times but left from the sheer amount of unreliable people on here. as a single male you should realise that you are in contest with a larger volume of males as well as couples and single females who have specific tastes. The first issue is not reading profiles its the key to getting a conversation also try be creative with your message title if you don't catch the persons eye how else will you get a reply. The second issue is realising that women get bombarded with messages everyday that the best time to message them is when there online. Me and a friend did an experiment on here her being female me being male in one day she got 47 messages I got 4 3 were off gay men (not that I have anything against men or TV's pro-lgbt) but just shows how much competition there is and how diverse this community is. The third issue is men not taking no for an answer it makes the chances of other men lower because women and couples coat us all with the same brush when one needy aggressive male doesn't get the answer he look for because then that person becomes abusive anf makes everyone else look like a dick. On the flip side women and couples need to actually take the time to reply and say not interested i know most people state on there profile if you dont get a reply your not interest but there are so many people who don't read profiles as some time a good message may get deleted due to the sheer volume of messages I know its strenuous and tedious but it will help out the good meets and general idiots on this site who are only here for one thing. Also I'm not having a dig but I do feel sometimes that people on here set there expectations so high with women wanting a Christian grey and men expecting a pornstar people need to realise swingers are normal people who just wish to explore the sexual boundries. Finally my biggest point would be get you arse into the forums its the best place to actually meet and talk to people before any physical interaction and it also help you build a better picture of the person and find out it there right for you

Rant over

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Making a very valid and honest point may come across as a dig to many women and cpls, but this would be a function of the absurdly inflated egos of so many on the site"

The egos are insane! And it's usually the people that have no reason to be egotistical.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"..but these women have fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. Its pretty comical reading their profiles and looking at their pics

but why worry about them, they are doing their thing and if people are meeting them and they are happy, who cares.

Exactly, why waste time on someone you have no interest in ? Way too many people on here worry far too much about how others go about things on here. They don't affect anyone else so ignore them."

I've noticed you talk a lot of sense in the forums.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Lot of genuine nice, attractive women on here who are easy to talk to and do engage in converstion and meet all types of men, realistic women.

Were they ugly before you messaged them?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Making a very valid and honest point may come across as a dig to many women and cpls, but this would be a function of the absurdly inflated egos of so many on the site

The egos are insane! And it's usually the people that have no reason to be egotistical. "

Not as bad as the sense of entitlement though

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

"Making a very valid and honest point may come across as a dig to many women and cpls, but this would be a function of the absurdly inflated egos of so many on the site

The egos are insane! And it's usually the people that have no reason to be egotistical. "

but the ego is theirs, I am amazingly egotistical and I am entitled to that. Now I fully appreciate that I piss people off on here, I don't care. I ain't sucking up to anyone, nor am I being overtly rude to someone.

But what I have learned, people reap what they sow,

If people are making diva demands, they will be the same ones who come on the forums ranting and ravings, it is then you think... you brought it upon yourself

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Women don't need a great profile tho for a man to fuck them tho as most men would fuck anyone lol."

Most women get this, but don't seem to like it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"..but these women have fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. Its pretty comical reading their profiles and looking at their pics

but why worry about them, they are doing their thing and if people are meeting them and they are happy, who cares.

Exactly, why waste time on someone you have no interest in ? Way too many people on here worry far too much about how others go about things on here. They don't affect anyone else so ignore them.

I've noticed you talk a lot of sense in the forums."

I talk a load of old crap everywhere else though haha !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Women don't need a great profile tho for a man to fuck them tho as most men would fuck anyone lol.

Most women get this, but don't seem to like it. "

He means for most men to WANT to fuck them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Women don't need a great profile tho for a man to fuck them tho as most men would fuck anyone lol.

Most women get this, but don't seem to like it.

He means for most men to WANT to fuck them. "

Are you sure about that?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Women don't need a great profile tho for a man to fuck them tho as most men would fuck anyone lol.

Most women get this, but don't seem to like it.

He means for most men to WANT to fuck them.

Are you sure about that?"

He doesn't realise that's what he means

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Women don't need a great profile tho for a man to fuck them tho as most men would fuck anyone lol.

Most women get this, but don't seem to like it.

He means for most men to WANT to fuck them.

Are you sure about that?

He doesn't realise that's what he means "
Yes want more but thought would had similar meaning.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Women don't need a great profile tho for a man to fuck them tho as most men would fuck anyone lol.

Most women get this, but don't seem to like it.

He means for most men to WANT to fuck them.

Are you sure about that?

He doesn't realise that's what he means Yes want more but thought would had similar meaning."

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

If men realised and appreciated that this web site is a tool for swinging, and that there are other tools such as clubs and socials and real life, then their experience on here might be a little bit more fun and less stressful.

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By *ischief ManagedCouple over a year ago

manchester

No profile pic or pictures- put off

No face pics in msg - as per our profile put off as mrs has to have attraction.

Messaged aimed directly at mrs - put off

There loads could go on and on. We are not making it difficult for single males. We do it so they know and have read our profile most dont in fact 95 pct say yes but in reality if the msg contained what we asked for in the first place they will know what we are looking for. Seriously its not hard to read.we always give a polite no thanks and yet to recieve any abuse...

But as its been said best advise go to a club meet the couples say hello , if nothing happens so be it least you will get verified. We'd happily meet genuine males at a club and say hello cant hurt afterall can it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If men realised and appreciated that this web site is a tool for swinging, and that there are other tools such as clubs and socials and real life, then their experience on here might be a little bit more fun and less stressful. "

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford

im my opinion ,too many guys

1. dont read the profile before making contact

2. fail to show up to a meet

3. fail to say anything interesting in their initial massage ..

no wonder they get nowhere..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Making a very valid and honest point may come across as a dig to many women and cpls, but this would be a function of the absurdly inflated egos of so many on the site

The egos are insane! And it's usually the people that have no reason to be egotistical.

But what I have learned, people reap what they sow,

If people are making diva demands, they will be the same ones who come on the forums ranting and ravings, it is then you think... you brought it upon yourself

It's what I stay for. The car crash threads are utterly fantastic. And the people posting them just can't see the headlights barrelling towards them....

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

"Making a very valid and honest point may come across as a dig to many women and cpls, but this would be a function of the absurdly inflated egos of so many on the site

The egos are insane! And it's usually the people that have no reason to be egotistical.

But what I have learned, people reap what they sow,

If people are making diva demands, they will be the same ones who come on the forums ranting and ravings, it is then you think... you brought it upon yourself

It's what I stay for. The car crash threads are utterly fantastic. And the people posting them just can't see the headlights barrelling towards them....

Indeed

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

people create the issue, people then condemn the issue

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By *urvymamaWoman over a year ago

Doncaster

And another great example of guys that don't read, very clear I don't meet with the kids in my care and he's disrespectfully said I know you said in your profile you don't but I can come when there in bed and we'll be quiet

No just No!

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