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A hot topic we know but really curious as to why some couples put "we won't meet with couples with a male who puts Bi or Bi-curious"?
We are both Bi but that is only a small part of our swinging and we are happy to meet with couples that are straight. We would never ask that of a couple who didn't list it as an interest.
Are they afraid we'll get horney at the sight of the same sexs genitals instead of the opposite?
We've come across couples interested in trying same sex playing but don't list it because they don't want to be judged, maybe that is why?
This isn't ment to be discriminatory in any way, if your a couple that won't meet Bi couples, could we ask your reasons? Thanks for any advice  |
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over a year ago
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We would happily meet a bi-male couple, even though he is straight. Boundaries for play are set before the meet itself so we know what is, and what is not, to happen |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
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I'm not a couple, but would not knowingly meet a bi-male or bi-male couple.
Playing with a bi male inhibits things that matter to me - such as giving blood as there are bars for 1 year after having intercourse (even if protected) with a man who has oral or anal sex with another man - not something I am willing to compromise on.
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We have first hand experience of meeting couples with bi females who say that it isn't important and they will play straight, then try and convince me to "try it out". By no means all the bi women have been like this but enough to make us reluctant to meet them. |
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We have met couples who are both bi but not put it in there profile , there choice isn't it . We prefer to be open with our sexuality our choice . Some thinks it's ok to have a bi female but male has to be straight don't understand the difference . |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
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"We have met couples who are both bi but not put it in there profile , there choice isn't it . We prefer to be open with our sexuality our choice . Some thinks it's ok to have a bi female but male has to be straight don't understand the difference . "
Perhaps because 2 men getting it on does nothing for them? The acknowledged greater health risk of male-male sex? Personal choice.
I've been called a hypocrite for being a bi female refusing to play with bi-men... but at the end of the day, its my health, my body and my choice. |
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"We have met couples who are both bi but not put it in there profile , there choice isn't it . We prefer to be open with our sexuality our choice . Some thinks it's ok to have a bi female but male has to be straight don't understand the difference .
Perhaps because 2 men getting it on does nothing for them? Theacknowledged greater health risk of male-male sex? Personal choice.
I've been called a hypocrite for being a bi female refusing to play with bi-men... but at the end of the day, its my health, my body and my choice."
So is there no risk between two women playing together ? |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
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"We have met couples who are both bi but not put it in there profile , there choice isn't it . We prefer to be open with our sexuality our choice . Some thinks it's ok to have a bi female but male has to be straight don't understand the difference .
Perhaps because 2 men getting it on does nothing for them? Theacknowledged greater health risk of male-male sex? Personal choice.
I've been called a hypocrite for being a bi female refusing to play with bi-men... but at the end of the day, its my health, my body and my choice.
So is there no risk between two women playing together ?"
Its a much lower risk - I have asked the blood donor clinic, the GUM clinic and my GP and all advise fem-fem is lower risk as there are less body fluids exchanged, and lower risk of fissures and tears being contaminated with body fluids. |
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"We have met couples who are both bi but not put it in there profile , there choice isn't it . We prefer to be open with our sexuality our choice . Some thinks it's ok to have a bi female but male has to be straight don't understand the difference . "
And some want straight women too. For me guys with guys does nothing for me And I will choose to not meet bi guys if I can.. of course in this life not everyone is honest and I'm sure in clubs we have met many couples and guys that are bi.
But for me personally it does make me normally turn them down if I know in advance.. can't really tell you why except that it turns me off.
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statistically bi guys are higher risk than strsight guys in the outside world.
In the swinging world it's all evened out. We're all at the same level of risk.
Each to their own. I don't like playing with couples or guys who are uncomfortable with being in the vicinity of another penis. My preference.  |
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"We have met couples who are both bi but not put it in there profile , there choice isn't it . We prefer to be open with our sexuality our choice . Some thinks it's ok to have a bi female but male has to be straight don't understand the difference .
Perhaps because 2 men getting it on does nothing for them? Theacknowledged greater health risk of male-male sex? Personal choice.
I've been called a hypocrite for being a bi female refusing to play with bi-men... but at the end of the day, its my health, my body and my choice.
So is there no risk between two women playing together ?"
^^ This!!
Obviously it's everyone's personal choice which everyone, quite rightly so is entitled too.
However, I find some women who are bi to be hugely hypocritical when it comes to bi couples where both are actively bisexual.
Same with couples who only want a bi female but seem appalled that the male half is bi.
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"We have met couples who are both bi but not put it in there profile , there choice isn't it . We prefer to be open with our sexuality our choice . Some thinks it's ok to have a bi female but male has to be straight don't understand the difference .
Perhaps because 2 men getting it on does nothing for them? The acknowledged greater health risk of male-male sex? Personal choice.
I've been called a hypocrite for being a bi female refusing to play with bi-men... but at the end of the day, its my health, my body and my choice."
I'm glad to see you aren't amongst the blinkered bunch who actually think their verification tree is bi male free.
It kinda undermines the giving blood argument as almost everyone who I've seen post it has been with at least one person who is either a bi male or has been with one. How do I know? Because us Tgirls know who all the bi men are |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
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"We have met couples who are both bi but not put it in there profile , there choice isn't it . We prefer to be open with our sexuality our choice . Some thinks it's ok to have a bi female but male has to be straight don't understand the difference .
Perhaps because 2 men getting it on does nothing for them? The acknowledged greater health risk of male-male sex? Personal choice.
I've been called a hypocrite for being a bi female refusing to play with bi-men... but at the end of the day, its my health, my body and my choice.
I'm glad to see you aren't amongst the blinkered bunch who actually think their verification tree is bi male free.
It kinda undermines the giving blood argument as almost everyone who I've seen post it has been with at least one person who is either a bi male or has been with one. How do I know? Because us Tgirls know who all the bi men are "
Considering how few people I've slept with via fab, and the time elapsed since my last play meet from here, i know I am ok to give blood, and have had quite a few gum visits since I played via here too. Outside fab, both of the men I've slept with over the last nearly 4 years are trust worthy and would not lie to me about it. |
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"We would happily meet a bi-male couple, even though he is straight. Boundaries for play are set before the meet itself so we know what is, and what is not, to happen "
The mature approach I think. The risk of std scares a lot off with regards to bi males, but why not ask if the curiousness has been explored? Might be orally bi etc and a shame to lose a meet due to a misunderstanding IMO.
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"We have met couples who are both bi but not put it in there profile , there choice isn't it . We prefer to be open with our sexuality our choice . Some thinks it's ok to have a bi female but male has to be straight don't understand the difference .
Perhaps because 2 men getting it on does nothing for them? Theacknowledged greater health risk of male-male sex? Personal choice.
I've been called a hypocrite for being a bi female refusing to play with bi-men... but at the end of the day, its my health, my body and my choice.
So is there no risk between two women playing together ?
^^ This!!
Obviously it's everyone's personal choice which everyone, quite rightly so is entitled too.
However, I find some women who are bi to be hugely hypocritical when it comes to bi couples where both are actively bisexual.
Same with couples who only want a bi female but seem appalled that the male half is bi.
Mrs "
I'm the other way round, I find bi women a turn off but absolutely ador bi men
Funny old world |
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"We have met couples who are both bi but not put it in there profile , there choice isn't it . We prefer to be open with our sexuality our choice . Some thinks it's ok to have a bi female but male has to be straight don't understand the difference .
Perhaps because 2 men getting it on does nothing for them? Theacknowledged greater health risk of male-male sex? Personal choice.
I've been called a hypocrite for being a bi female refusing to play with bi-men... but at the end of the day, its my health, my body and my choice.
So is there no risk between two women playing together ?
^^ This!!
Obviously it's everyone's personal choice which everyone, quite rightly so is entitled too.
However, I find some women who are bi to be hugely hypocritical when it comes to bi couples where both are actively bisexual.
Same with couples who only want a bi female but seem appalled that the male half is bi.
Mrs
I'm the other way round, I find bi women a turn off but absolutely ador bi men
Funny old world "
It sure is! 
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"We have met couples who are both bi but not put it in there profile , there choice isn't it . We prefer to be open with our sexuality our choice . Some thinks it's ok to have a bi female but male has to be straight don't understand the difference .
Perhaps because 2 men getting it on does nothing for them? The acknowledged greater health risk of male-male sex? Personal choice.
I've been called a hypocrite for being a bi female refusing to play with bi-men... but at the end of the day, its my health, my body and my choice.
I'm glad to see you aren't amongst the blinkered bunch who actually think their verification tree is bi male free.
It kinda undermines the giving blood argument as almost everyone who I've seen post it has been with at least one person who is either a bi male or has been with one. How do I know? Because us Tgirls know who all the bi men are "
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I don't see why people should justify their preferences. 
If someone doesn't want to meet an old, fat, black, Domme I look for those that do, not ask why! None of us has universal appeal: I know that may come as a shock to some.  |
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"I don't see why people should justify their preferences.
If someone doesn't want to meet an old, fat, black, Domme I look for those that do, not ask why! None of us has universal appeal: I know that may come as a shock to some. "
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The point about giving blood is really important. I cannot give blood because I have been dating a bisexual man for the last threeish years.
On the plus side that does mean that I get a whole load of vaccinations for free from the GUM clinic.
Bisexual men not being honest and not admitting that they are bisexual are doing an awful lot of harm.
(Also be honest, get your HepB. I don't really want to play with you if you ain't got your HepB consider the epidemic the gay community in the South East has had). |
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By *im1978Couple
over a year ago
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Jim here. Whereas I respect everyones personal opinions and preferences, not all bi/gay men are down the heath every night barebacking any arse reflected in the moon light! Just saying....
We have a select few people we meet and its always safe even though we know them well. |
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Amazing how many 'straight' guys on here are actually bi.
So all those straight guys you think you are meeting aren't necessarily so.
its definitely personal choice but don't be ignorant to the fact a lot of people on here tell lies. |
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"I'd be interested to know where you got that area specific HepB 'epidemic' information? "
Couldn't really find any area specific figures but having lived in Brighton for many many years I know their is a huge gay population, therefore there will be higher than averag hep B infection rates.
While relatively rare in the UK and Western Europe (at under 1% of the population) evidence of infection with HBV can be found at high levels in certain UK populations such as gay and bisexual men (about 15-30%),9around 20% of IV drug users,10those with many sexual partners or a history of sexually transmitted infections. These are DoH figures, fairly recent and I wouldn't take the risk that the man I fuck is thirty times more likely to be infected than the average man in the street  |
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The worry I have is that a lot of "straight couples" are bi and never get tested as they think they are immune to std's whereas every openly "bi couple" or bi male I know do get tested regularly.
So for me it's much safer meeting bi swingers than non bi people.
Your health is important and make sure it is forefront when swinging |
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"The worry I have is that a lot of "straight couples" are bi and never get tested as they think they are immune to std's whereas every openly "bi couple" or bi male I know do get tested regularly.
So for me it's much safer meeting bi swingers than non bi people.
Your health is important and make sure it is forefront when swinging"
Well said. |
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"The worry I have is that a lot of "straight couples" are bi and never get tested as they think they are immune to std's whereas every openly "bi couple" or bi male I know do get tested regularly.
So for me it's much safer meeting bi swingers than non bi people.
Your health is important and make sure it is forefront when swinging
Well said. "
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Whilst I accept and understand the health points raised, I honesty believe that the issue is more related to homophobic, straight males who think they are so irresistible that any bi male just won't be able to control themselves. . .
I identify as curious, which by its very definition means I have never been with a man. In fact I identify this way as I find trans people fascinating; not interested in manly men to be honest... |
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"Amazing how many 'straight' guys on here are actually bi.
So all those straight guys you think you are meeting aren't necessarily so.
its definitely personal choice but don't be ignorant to the fact a lot of people on here tell lies."
Amazing how any bi women on here are actually straight too |
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"The worry I have is that a lot of "straight couples" are bi and never get tested as they think they are immune to std's whereas every openly "bi couple" or bi male I know do get tested regularly.
So for me it's much safer meeting bi swingers than non bi people.
Your health is important and make sure it is forefront when swinging"
My experience too, the amount of straight couples that I've spoken to that have never been tested compared to the bi ones that have always amazes me |
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It's either one of two things.
Some people will be put off by the additional risk, which.....fair enough. My instinct is to get defensive about it - The 'dirty dirty gay wants to fuck you up the arse and give you a disease' is a stereotype that has been used to justify some horrific homophobia over the years, but I also can't overlook the maths - Guys, particularly guys who bottom for other guys, are at a significantly higher statistical risk of STDs, especially when barebacking.
As a word of warning, though, most of the risky behaviour I see with guys tends to happen in saunas and the like, which by their definition tends to attract guys who are often 'in the closet'. I suspect that a lot of these guys don't get bombarded with the literature that openly bi/gay guys get, nor are they as likely to know people who are living with STDs, so they have less paranoia to override them getting carried away in the moment and doing something stupid.
No idea how a study would work, but I'd love to know the risk factor on openly bi guys vs closet bi guys, particularly with HepB where 'out' guys are probably vaccinated and regularly getting checked up. I suspect the risk factor in your average swingers club would even out somewhat when you factor in the additional chances "straight" guys often take.
If it's not to do with the additional risk and being around bi/gay people just makes you uncomfortable, congratulations, you are to some degree homophobic. Please continue to be open about it so I can stay the fuck away from you.
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"I'd be interested to know where you got that area specific HepB 'epidemic' information? "
I was vaccinated a year ago because London was facing a serious breakout with Hep B. My partner was then checked the next time he went to a clinic in Birmingham because they were also struggling to control the Hep B problem there too. |
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It's because as everyone knows bi guys are serial cock grabbers, they can't help themselves. Literally no one is safe. We are surprised the daily mail have not do a front page warning about it.
"Britain on bi guy cock grabbing alert". It's probably affecting the house prices in Oxford too.
Lock your doors at night people. Stay safe. |
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"Whilst I accept and understand the health points raised, I honesty believe that the issue is more related to homophobic, straight males who think they are so irresistible that any bi male just won't be able to control themselves. . .
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In our case it bothers me (ms) far more than it does Mr.. he is totally straight but doesn't worry in group situations and expects people to respect that he's straight. I just find in general I will dismiss bi male profiles even though I accept we will have played with guys that are in clubs.
I can't really say why but I think it's because I find guy on guy a huge turn off... |
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"It's either one of two things.
Some people will be put off by the additional risk, which.....fair enough. My instinct is to get defensive about it - The 'dirty dirty gay wants to fuck you up the arse and give you a disease' is a stereotype that has been used to justify some horrific homophobia over the years, but I also can't overlook the maths - Guys, particularly guys who bottom for other guys, are at a significantly higher statistical risk of STDs, especially when barebacking.
As a word of warning, though, most of the risky behaviour I see with guys tends to happen in saunas and the like, which by their definition tends to attract guys who are often 'in the closet'. I suspect that a lot of these guys don't get bombarded with the literature that openly bi/gay guys get, nor are they as likely to know people who are living with STDs, so they have less paranoia to override them getting carried away in the moment and doing something stupid.
No idea how a study would work, but I'd love to know the risk factor on openly bi guys vs closet bi guys, particularly with HepB where 'out' guys are probably vaccinated and regularly getting checked up. I suspect the risk factor in your average swingers club would even out somewhat when you factor in the additional chances "straight" guys often take.
If it's not to do with the additional risk and being around bi/gay people just makes you uncomfortable, congratulations, you are to some degree homophobic. Please continue to be open about it so I can stay the fuck away from you.
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This ^^^^ spot on with everything I think
Too many on here use the 'preference' word to actually cover prejudice... Guess they both start with p so easy to mix them up |
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"It's because as everyone knows bi guys are serial cock grabbers, they can't help themselves. Literally no one is safe. We are surprised the daily mail have not do a front page warning about it.
"Britain on bi guy cock grabbing alert". It's probably affecting the house prices in Oxford too.
Lock your doors at night people. Stay safe."
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As an openly bi guy I get it and I'm not just talking about butt sex that there is a higher risk of std's. Then again am not out everyday being shagged by other men and when I do it's always safe. That might well turn people off from meeting us but so what it's their preference at least they like us are honest.
I'm not bothered if they won't meet as they're thinking about their health or because their homophobic.
I remember overhearing a conversation at a swinger's club once when was with my ex between a guy and a couple. The conversation was along the lines that they were on Fab and would never play with a female who'd met bi-males even checking veri tree's. The guy then said he wouldn't either. Shame he'd never bothered to ask before he'd taken my ex into a private room earlier that night. |
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By *adybee77Woman
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"Amazing how many 'straight' guys on here are actually bi.
So all those straight guys you think you are meeting aren't necessarily so.
its definitely personal choice but don't be ignorant to the fact a lot of people on here tell lies."
On fab, I play as if everyone has lied about their sexual history.
The only sexual history I believe here is my own. Its also why I have very few play meets via fab - if I am unsure, I won't do it, but then I have very few partners in my non-fab life too - having slept with way less than my more vanilla friends, and also being way more cautious and health aware.
The only person responsible for my health is me. I don't care if it comes across as prejudice tbh, its about protecting myself and my family. |
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Are bi guys presenting more of a risk than people who have been sexually active in Africa? Do you ask where people have been on holiday in the last 12 months? Just treat everyone you meet as if they are HIV+ and you won't go far wrong. |
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"Are bi guys presenting more of a risk than people who have been sexually active in Africa? Do you ask where people have been on holiday in the last 12 months? Just treat everyone you meet as if they are HIV+ and you won't go far wrong. "
Also on my list of questions... but this post was about rejecting bi males specifically. The area I live has a high number of offshore oil workers who work in Africa - so yes, I do ask where people have been - and even in conversation, ask about holidays etc. If in doubt, I won't go there. |
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"....curious as to why some couples put "we won't meet with couples with a male who puts Bi or Bi-curious"? "
Maybe because they don't want to meet couples with a Bi-sexual male
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Are they afraid we'll get horney at the sight of the same sexs genitals instead of the opposite?"
Is that a serious assumption? Maybe its because they don't want to play with a Bi male - no matter how straight he can act.
I (Pippa) find Bi Males the biggest turn off.
I would never knowingly meet a Bi male for many reasons.
That is my choice My preference- My sexuality.
Most Bi men appreciate preferences and move along to someone more suitable to their sexuality.
Stick to what you want - not what others dont want.
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"Most Bi men appreciate preferences and move along to someone more suitable to their sexuality.
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Judging by the number of "straight" guys who message us asking for bi fun I'd have to say that statement's false. As much as it sounds bad but a lot of those guys are either lieing to us or to people like yourselves. |
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"Most Bi men appreciate preferences and move along to someone more suitable to their sexuality.
Judging by the number of "straight" guys who message us asking for bi fun I'd have to say that statement's false. As much as it sounds bad but a lot of those guys are either lieing to us or to people like yourselves. "
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I think there would be many many people shocked at the amount of "straight" guys who have had meets with tv/ts cds and then attended clubs as "straight" men! its a lot more common than you think and those who say they wouldnt meet a bi man probably have met a lot more than they know already !!  |
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"I just find it a general turn off if the male is bi - probably years of conditioning, but there you go.
This is how I feel. "
Many of us had this kind of conditioning. How many remember people saying "two blokes kissing..... Urgh. Disgusting"
When I decided to admit to myself how I felt and started playing with guys I was happy to take him in my mouth but kissing..... Urgh. Disgusting.
It took me a little while to get over that conditioning.
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"I just find it a general turn off if the male is bi - probably years of conditioning, but there you go.
This is how I feel. "
I just don't get this. If you're having a one on one with a guy what difference does it make? We don't wear a neon "bi" sign or wear a pink velvet suit. |
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"Are bi guys presenting more of a risk than people who have been sexually active in Africa? Do you ask where people have been on holiday in the last 12 months? Just treat everyone you meet as if they are HIV+ and you won't go far wrong.
Also on my list of questions... but this post was about rejecting bi males specifically. The area I live has a high number of offshore oil workers who work in Africa - so yes, I do ask where people have been - and even in conversation, ask about holidays etc. If in doubt, I won't go there."
I understand everyone has different requirements, however the hard line you take on Bi-Males in this thread is somewhat contradicted by the verification you have from a Bi-Male who has pictures of bareback penetrative and oral sex with couples and females.
Just saying... |
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"Are bi guys presenting more of a risk than people who have been sexually active in Africa? Do you ask where people have been on holiday in the last 12 months? Just treat everyone you meet as if they are HIV+ and you won't go far wrong.
Also on my list of questions... but this post was about rejecting bi males specifically. The area I live has a high number of offshore oil workers who work in Africa - so yes, I do ask where people have been - and even in conversation, ask about holidays etc. If in doubt, I won't go there.
I understand everyone has different requirements, however the hard line you take on Bi-Males in this thread is somewhat contradicted by the verification you have from a Bi-Male who has pictures of bareback penetrative and oral sex with couples and females.
Just saying..."
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"....curious as to why some couples put "we won't meet with couples with a male who puts Bi or Bi-curious"?
Maybe because they don't want to meet couples with a Bi-sexual male
Are they afraid we'll get horney at the sight of the same sexs genitals instead of the opposite?
Is that a serious assumption? Maybe its because they don't want to play with a Bi male - no matter how straight he can act.
I (Pippa) find Bi Males the biggest turn off.
I would never knowingly meet a Bi male for many reasons.
That is my choice My preference- My sexuality.
Most Bi men appreciate preferences and move along to someone more suitable to their sexuality.
Stick to what you want - not what others dont want.
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This forum appears to have caused problems, as all quieres about male-make interaction seem to! For a section called 'advice' it seemed to be a lot of 'judgement'!
thanks so much to everyone who had something constructive to say! but I hope that admin will now close this thread as its results in general make me sad! |
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"Are bi guys presenting more of a risk than people who have been sexually active in Africa? Do you ask where people have been on holiday in the last 12 months? Just treat everyone you meet as if they are HIV+ and you won't go far wrong. "
You could go wrong because HepB transfers from one person to another much much easier than the HIV virus. I read that on an NHS site. |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire) |
"Are bi guys presenting more of a risk than people who have been sexually active in Africa? Do you ask where people have been on holiday in the last 12 months? Just treat everyone you meet as if they are HIV+ and you won't go far wrong.
Also on my list of questions... but this post was about rejecting bi males specifically. The area I live has a high number of offshore oil workers who work in Africa - so yes, I do ask where people have been - and even in conversation, ask about holidays etc. If in doubt, I won't go there.
I understand everyone has different requirements, however the hard line you take on Bi-Males in this thread is somewhat contradicted by the verification you have from a Bi-Male who has pictures of bareback penetrative and oral sex with couples and females.
Just saying..."
And it is very clear that was only social, and will never and has never gone any further. We met as we had been chatting on here for ages, with no expectation of anything more.
I don't treat gay or bi men like lepers, I just will not play or have sex with them. Didn't realise a social verification meant an assumption of more happening. |
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over a year ago
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"The worry I have is that a lot of "straight couples" are bi and never get tested as they think they are immune to std's whereas every openly "bi couple" or bi male I know do get tested regularly.
So for me it's much safer meeting bi swingers than non bi people.
Your health is important and make sure it is forefront when swinging"
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"fem-fem is lower risk as there are less body fluids exchanged, and lower risk of fissures and tears being contaminated with body fluids."
Less bodily fluids exchanged? Have their fannies dried up then?? And what about all those toys women share at parties? |
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over a year ago
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"I just find it a general turn off if the male is bi - probably years of conditioning, but there you go.
This is how I feel.
I just don't get this. If you're having a one on one with a guy what difference does it make? We don't wear a neon "bi" sign or wear a pink velvet suit."
Because it's a turn off for me, as are small men, skinny men etc etc. I'm a bi fem and that's a turn off for some. I don't get what you don't understand? |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire) |
"fem-fem is lower risk as there are less body fluids exchanged, and lower risk of fissures and tears being contaminated with body fluids.
Less bodily fluids exchanged? Have their fannies dried up then?? And what about all those toys women share at parties? "
I make sure toys are safe play too and use condoms on them. Last time I checked ladies do not ejaculate in each others fannies... so yes less body fluids exchanged. |
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"fem-fem is lower risk as there are less body fluids exchanged, and lower risk of fissures and tears being contaminated with body fluids.
Less bodily fluids exchanged? Have their fannies dried up then?? And what about all those toys women share at parties?
I make sure toys are safe play too and use condoms on them. Last time I checked ladies do not ejaculate in each others fannies... so yes less body fluids exchanged. "
Mouth to pussy. Pussy to pussy. So high risk. Toys are used unprotected at parties. |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire) |
"fem-fem is lower risk as there are less body fluids exchanged, and lower risk of fissures and tears being contaminated with body fluids.
Less bodily fluids exchanged? Have their fannies dried up then?? And what about all those toys women share at parties?
I make sure toys are safe play too and use condoms on them. Last time I checked ladies do not ejaculate in each others fannies... so yes less body fluids exchanged.
Mouth to pussy. Pussy to pussy. So high risk. Toys are used unprotected at parties. "
Toys are not unprotected in any of the places I play - I look after myself... and I love how you have decided that you know how I play.
I spoke to the experts - medical professionals at the relevant places to get advice... but you know best, so I shall bow to your knowledge |
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"fem-fem is lower risk as there are less body fluids exchanged, and lower risk of fissures and tears being contaminated with body fluids.
Less bodily fluids exchanged? Have their fannies dried up then?? And what about all those toys women share at parties?
I make sure toys are safe play too and use condoms on them. Last time I checked ladies do not ejaculate in each others fannies... so yes less body fluids exchanged.
Mouth to pussy. Pussy to pussy. So high risk. Toys are used unprotected at parties.
Toys are not unprotected in any of the places I play - I look after myself... and I love how you have decided that you know how I play.
I spoke to the experts - medical professionals at the relevant places to get advice... but you know best, so I shall bow to your knowledge "
NHS website for lesbian and bisexual women: they publish interesting figures. |
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Don't want to hijack this but woman to woman even including oral is a lesser risk according to my gum clinic and doctor.
And I always use toys with condoms.
I'd say more of a risk is fingers at clubs and things.
However this post was about why couples choose to not meet couples with bi males and plenty have answered openly and honestly.
I want to answer another thing posed.. when does preference become prejudice...? Well often on fab its when it excludes someone who feels they shouldn't be excluded. Don't get why personally when there are plenty of people for all.
To be honest as a woman that doesn't want a bi guy I find myself in the minority |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire) |
"Don't want to hijack this but woman to woman even including oral is a lesser risk according to my gum clinic and doctor.
And I always use toys with condoms.
I'd say more of a risk is fingers at clubs and things.
However this post was about why couples choose to not meet couples with bi males and plenty have answered openly and honestly.
I want to answer another thing posed.. when does preference become prejudice...? Well often on fab its when it excludes someone who feels they shouldn't be excluded. Don't get why personally when there are plenty of people for all.
To be honest as a woman that doesn't want a bi guy I find myself in the minority "
Likewise, and having to constantly defend my sexuality and being accused of hypocrisy. A minority I am happy to be in. Bi men are not for me for a variety of reasons, as I have previously explained. Again, as I stated, the only sexual history I trust is my own, and I know how often I get tested and checked, and how I play. |
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over a year ago
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"Amazing how many 'straight' guys on here are actually bi.
So all those straight guys you think you are meeting aren't necessarily so.
its definitely personal choice but don't be ignorant to the fact a lot of people on here tell lies."
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over a year ago
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"Don't want to hijack this but woman to woman even including oral is a lesser risk according to my gum clinic and doctor.
And I always use toys with condoms.
I'd say more of a risk is fingers at clubs and things.
However this post was about why couples choose to not meet couples with bi males and plenty have answered openly and honestly.
I want to answer another thing posed.. when does preference become prejudice...? Well often on fab its when it excludes someone who feels they shouldn't be excluded. Don't get why personally when there are plenty of people for all.
To be honest as a woman that doesn't want a bi guy I find myself in the minority
Likewise, and having to constantly defend my sexuality and being accused of hypocrisy. A minority I am happy to be in. Bi men are not for me for a variety of reasons, as I have previously explained. Again, as I stated, the only sexual history I trust is my own, and I know how often I get tested and checked, and how I play."
I think we all got the message about Bi-Men not being for you, and your reasonably lofty position ref your standards…
Just realise we are not idiots so when you say things like the only sexual history you trust is your own, and that you assume all men lie about their sexual history, but then shore up your own verification list by saying the only two men you met from fab you trust them!
Its a long way down from atop that high horse.
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
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I think we all got the message about Bi-Men not being for you, and your reasonably lofty position ref your standards…
Just realise we are not idiots so when you say things like the only sexual history you trust is your own, and that you assume all men lie about their sexual history, but then shore up your own verification list by saying the only two men you met from fab you trust them!
Its a long way down from atop that high horse.
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No, the men I trust I have not met via fab... I think you misread that part. I know I can trust both of them as within both relationships we have visited the sexual health clinic together, and been with them when the results were returned too. They are people I have had long term relationships with outside of fab. And as you can see - I have met more than 2 men - although the majority have been socials.
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over a year ago
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Good thread this. I think the comments people made about hidden Bi-sexuality make a lot of sense. We are comfortable now with what we have on our profile. It alerts people that we are both Try-sexual and if people are a bit wary of that then fine. Jog along and I'd hope people respect the way we try to put our try-sexuality across.
Seriously there ought to be a category for Try Sexuals LOL. It's hard to get it across on a profile isn't it. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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I am straight and would not be worried about a bi man not being able to control himself around me.
I think that this thread has been very interesting in bringing up questions around sexual health that I have found interesting. I had not considered the increased risk to sexual health, but think it is interesting that on another thread about dental dams there has huge negativity about it. So it seems as though the British swinging community is generally pro condom for penis in vagina and penis is ass sex. But it seems there is very little discussion about protection on toys, for blow jobs, cunnilingus or wearing gloves.
I wish there was better sexual health information specifically for our ethically non monogamous lifestyle |
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over a year ago
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Openly bi curious here....can't say I've even noticed an issue....I look after my own health and encourage those I care about to do the same ans that's all I'm fussed about...
I'm sure that having bi curious on my profile may have cost me a meet or two...but I don't care because if it was for me, it wouldn't have gone by me....nothing lost.
When my profile changes again to bisexual (i'm sure it will sooner or later) then that will probably change my chances with other people, but again, if they're not for me then so be it...I won't change my profile to a 'suit all' profile just to get meets, that's exceedingly sad, lying so I can be with people who don't want the true me....no, it's not so great.
I suggest that if everyone just told the truth about their sexuality and got on with it without worrying why couple x or lady y won't meet them and just respected the fact it's their choice, regardless of weather you think it's a good reason or not, then fab would be much simpler...
Unfortunately though, despite anything said on this thread, people will continue to lie to other people in order to get laid....so for all this talk, things will remain the same...
Couples who don't like bi guys will continue be lied to by bi guys and they'll continue to get through the net that way. I'm sure that applies not only to some bi guys, but to a sliver of every section of fab.... |
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"i always pmsl at the feet stamping that goes on in these kind of threads when people don't get the reply THEY want...."
I was not 'stamping my feet' at "not hearing what I want", simply because I had no expectation as to people's replies to my question which was posed innocently.
I wanted to know people's reasons and I am honoured by those who have shared honestly! I was annoyed by some individuals that viewed this thread as a pissing contest with their views. I am very glad on recent posts that others have found it as valuable as I have (around the bad) I had never considered certain things that have been raised in this thread. We take sexual health very seriously but it's interesting to see others views and ideas.
As my mother used to say: if you've got nothing nice to say . . . . Then don't post your opinions on a swinging website. |
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"i always pmsl at the feet stamping that goes on in these kind of threads when people don't get the reply THEY want....
I was not 'stamping my feet' at "not hearing what I want", simply because I had no expectation as to people's replies to my question which was posed innocently.
I wanted to know people's reasons and I am honoured by those who have shared honestly! I was annoyed by some individuals that viewed this thread as a pissing contest with their views. I am very glad on recent posts that others have found it as valuable as I have (around the bad) I had never considered certain things that have been raised in this thread. We take sexual health very seriously but it's interesting to see others views and ideas.
As my mother used to say: if you've got nothing nice to say . . . . Then don't post your opinions on a swinging website."
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"We have met couples who are both bi but not put it in there profile , there choice isn't it . We prefer to be open with our sexuality our choice . Some thinks it's ok to have a bi female but male has to be straight don't understand the difference .
Perhaps because 2 men getting it on does nothing for them? Theacknowledged greater health risk of male-male sex? Personal choice.
I've been called a hypocrite for being a bi female refusing to play with bi-men... but at the end of the day, its my health, my body and my choice.
So is there no risk between two women playing together ?
^^ This!!
Obviously it's everyone's personal choice which everyone, quite rightly so is entitled too.
However, I find some women who are bi to be hugely hypocritical when it comes to bi couples where both are actively bisexual.
Same with couples who only want a bi female but seem appalled that the male half is bi.
Mrs
I'm the other way round, I find bi women a turn off but absolutely ador bi men
Funny old world "
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Some people won't meet bi guys....they may have many reasons for that decision and as a bi couple we don't really care what those reasons are.
We concentrate on the people that accept us for who we are and enjoy group bi fun.
I do find the 'I never have/never will' insistence bewildering though as a quick veri search often reveals bi guys in their sexual history.
Preferences are fine but naivety is just silly.
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"Some people won't meet bi guys....they may have many reasons for that decision and as a bi couple we don't really care what those reasons are.
We concentrate on the people that accept us for who we are and enjoy group bi fun.
I do find the 'I never have/never will' insistence bewildering though as a quick veri search often reveals bi guys in their sexual history.
Preferences are fine but naivety is just silly. ive been shocked (again) at how many are either naive or too thick to work it out! doh! have i let the cat out of the bag? giggidy
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"Some people won't meet bi guys....they may have many reasons for that decision and as a bi couple we don't really care what those reasons are.
We concentrate on the people that accept us for who we are and enjoy group bi fun.
I do find the 'I never have/never will' insistence bewildering though as a quick veri search often reveals bi guys in their sexual history.
Preferences are fine but naivety is just silly. ive been shocked (again) at how many are either naive or too thick to work it out! doh! have i let the cat out of the bag? giggidy
Mrs Dirty "
that's the thing if we met s completely straight couple we would of course play straight, as we have on most of our meets, we just feel that it's just such a harsh line to rule someone out because of it, I know everyone has preferences but I suppose in my eyes I would put in my profile all the types of People I'm not attracted to, rather just politely move on if approached by such a couple. We'd rather be honest and put the truth on our profile rather than lie about it to get more meets, whatever works for people I suppose. We honestly didn't believe this would cause that much argument or congecture, we purely asked the question as we honestly don't have strong feigns about that kind of thing |
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"It's because as everyone knows bi guys are serial cock grabbers, they can't help themselves. Literally no one is safe. We are surprised the daily mail have not do a front page warning about it.
"Britain on bi guy cock grabbing alert". It's probably affecting the house prices in Oxford too.
Lock your doors at night people. Stay safe."
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"It's because as everyone knows bi guys are serial cock grabbers, they can't help themselves. Literally no one is safe. We are surprised the daily mail have not do a front page warning about it.
"Britain on bi guy cock grabbing alert". It's probably affecting the house prices in Oxford too.
Lock your doors at night people. Stay safe."
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OP....there are certain subjects that always cause controversy and 'bi guys' is one of them!
We don't meet straight couples as bi fun is what we enjoy. Therefore we can't criticise people who enjoy straight fun as it's what they enjoy.
Concentrating on people who match what you're looking for makes swinging so much easier (and fun)
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"We honestly didn't believe this would cause that much argument or congecture, we purely asked the question as we honestly don't have strong feigns about that kind of thing"
The reason these threads always turn into such a clusterfuck (and not the good kind) is because coming to terms with non-hetro sexuality is a huge emotional deal for some people, depending on their upbringing, and this might well be the only place some guys are expressing and exploring it. It's about as sensitive a subject as you can really get, and as much as I like some of you, this forum isn't exactly a den of sensitivity. It's also not exactly a den of reasoned intelligent debate a lot of the time, either, so it all tends to go tits up spectacularly.
End of the day, it's all a moot point anyway. If someone has a legitimate reason (and there are plenty!) for not wanting to meet me, that's fine. And if it's down to homophobic prejudice, fucking bullet dodged I say. I'm not desperate.
At the risk of sounding like a self help book peddling douche, be yourselves folks. |
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I dare say it's down to the choice of the individual or couple ..... if they don't want to meet a couple where one person is bi,, then so be it. I don't think they have any need to explain their decision to be honest.
I like a little bit of bi play now and again but I always stress to people that this has to be mutual and I won't 'accidently' touch the guy if he isn't of that persuasion. I'm quite happy to, and capable, of playing straight, however I appreciate that this may put people off and I accept the fact without the need for further explanation or debate. |
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This interests me greatly. I was put off meeting bi males for a while, largely due to my own negative experiences in the past.
It is a shame that there is still stigma around them generally.
Most bi and gay men I know who are sexually active are very strict about sexual health and I know many who are able (clean of stds) and would love to give blood, but can't.
I get tested regularly and am always safe. Would hope people are sensible and not knowingly putting others at risk, regardless of gender or preference. |
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"This forum appears to have caused problems, as all quieres about male-make interaction seem to! For a section called 'advice' it seemed to be a lot of 'judgement'!
thanks so much to everyone who had something constructive to say! but I hope that admin will now close this thread as its results in general make me sad! "
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Straight up strange.
I class myself as bi but only played with other guys and not that much. I mean I find it more of a filth aspect rather than a sexual desire kind of thing.
Men and their egos are quite a strange thing. Who gives a fuck to be quite honest lol
A lot of it I firmly believe is the strong social programming we get early on. Men should be men.. I personally like men to be men also, doesn't mean you cant suck some cock  |
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"I dare say it's down to the choice of the individual or couple ..... if they don't want to meet a couple where one person is bi,, then so be it. I don't think they have any need to explain their decision to be honest.
I like a little bit of bi play now and again but I always stress to people that this has to be mutual and I won't 'accidently'
touch the guy if he isn't of that
persuasion. I'm quite happy to, and
capable, of playing straight, however I
appreciate that this may put people off
and I accept the fact without the need
for further explanation or
debate."
I agree with what Bob says. Besides which, I only ever meet and have sex with people who want to meet me and those that don't barely register unless we chat socially. I've chatted with couples who say 'no bi men' but we are ok chatting. |
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"I'm not a couple, but would not knowingly meet a bi-male or bi-male couple.
Playing with a bi male inhibits things that matter to me - such as giving blood as there are bars for 1 year after having intercourse (even if protected) with a man who has oral or anal sex with another man - not something I am willing to compromise on.
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"This forum appears to have caused problems, as all quieres about male-make interaction seem to! For a section called 'advice' it seemed to be a lot of 'judgement'!
thanks so much to everyone who had something constructive to say! but I hope that admin will now close this thread as its results in general make me sad! remember this?? "
That was N, this is A and I'm allowed to say and post whatever I like to be honest, as everyone keeps saying its a free country, if you don't like it...move along and post on another forum please |
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"I'm not a couple, but would not knowingly meet a bi-male or bi-male couple.
Playing with a bi male inhibits things that matter to me - such as giving blood as there are bars for 1 year after having intercourse (even if protected) with a man who has oral or anal sex with another man - not something I am willing to compromise on.
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Next time you give blood tell them you actively swing and have unprotected oral sex with people who's sexual history is not 100% risk free or known to you. |
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"Did she say she has unprotected oral with random people?
It was really advice for any swinger who thinks they are holier than thou..."
No one is holier than moi |
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over a year ago
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"I'm not a couple, but would not knowingly meet a bi-male or bi-male couple.
Playing with a bi male inhibits things that matter to me - such as giving blood as there are bars for 1 year after having intercourse (even if protected) with a man who has oral or anal sex with another man - not something I am willing to compromise on.
Next time you give blood tell them you actively swing and have unprotected oral sex with people who's sexual history is not 100% risk free or known to you. "
I agree, I used to give blood, but now am on medication that means that I can't. Just because the blood service is too naive to ask about the kind of behaviours you get up to, doesn't mean that you are 100% fine. However all blood is screened for Hep B, Syphilis, HIV, Hep C, Human T-lymphotropic virus and in some additional cases for Malaria, T Cruzi, Cytomegalovirus and West Nile Virus. (info taken from blood.co.uk) |
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"Did she say she has unprotected oral with random people?
It was really advice for any swinger who thinks they are holier than thou...
No one is holier than moi "
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"Did she say she has unprotected oral with random people?
It was really advice for any swinger who thinks they are holier than thou...
No one is holier than moi
You only have 2 holes...."
True but they're very good at what they do |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"We have met couples who are both bi but not put it in there profile , there choice isn't it . We prefer to be open with our sexuality our choice . Some thinks it's ok to have a bi female but male has to be straight don't understand the difference .
Perhaps because 2 men getting it on does nothing for them? The acknowledged greater health risk of male-male sex? Personal choice.
I've been called a hypocrite for being a bi female refusing to play with bi-men... but at the end of the day, its my health, my body and my choice.
I'm glad to see you aren't amongst the blinkered bunch who actually think their verification tree is bi male free.
It kinda undermines the giving blood argument as almost everyone who I've seen post it has been with at least one person who is either a bi male or has been with one. How do I know? Because us Tgirls know who all the bi men are "
In regards to the Veri Tree, I can't see that this is a great way of checking someone's sexual health for a variety of reasons.
As far as I am aware, the point of the verification is to confirm that a person is real. I have confirmed people are real because I have met them, but not played or had penetrative sex with. For example people I have met at clubs and house parties.
I have also played with people in addition to those on my list of Veris. For example before I started swinging, but also people that I have played with in clubs that I don't know on Fab.
Instead of that dreaded word...... wait for it....... "barebacking' .... I prefer to use the term fluid bonded, because if you are doing that you are bonded to that person, and all of their partners until you have had yourself checked out for everything. I think if you think of it in that way and imagine how many people you are potentially bonded to that you have never even met, you are more likely to wrap it up! |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"May i ask which meds CLCC?"
Wow you really do have to be open in this lifestyle don't you! I have previously been on acitretin which thins the skin, and am currently on an immunosuppressant called ciclosporin. Both of them are used in the treatment of the skin condition psoriasis. Don't worry psoriasis is not contagious and you won't catch it from playing with me. |
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I'm straight. Im sure I'm straight. I am confident enough to try anything I think might be fun but exploring my Bi-side holds no interest for me.
However that has not stopped us playing with couples where the male partner has been Bi. Stating they are prepared to play straight. We have done this twice in the past and both times neither male kept to their word. I am confident enough that what they tried to do didn't freak me out but it really really pissed me off, for one reason. They broke a boundry they agreed to. We have never done that with couples, males, females anyone. We consider a boundry sacred. Yet both Bi male couples we played with the Bi male broke the boundry, in 4-5 years of playing those are the only times our boundries have been broken.
Kinda puts you off bothering when it happens twice and you have only played with Bi male couples twice.
And yes I know not everyone is the same but there you have it, that's how it is. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"I'm straight. Im sure I'm straight. I am confident enough to try anything I think might be fun but exploring my Bi-side holds no interest for me.
However that has not stopped us playing with couples where the male partner has been Bi. Stating they are prepared to play straight. We have done this twice in the past and both times neither male kept to their word. I am confident enough that what they tried to do didn't freak me out but it really really pissed me off, for one reason. They broke a boundry they agreed to. We have never done that with couples, males, females anyone. We consider a boundry sacred. Yet both Bi male couples we played with the Bi male broke the boundry, in 4-5 years of playing those are the only times our boundries have been broken.
Kinda puts you off bothering when it happens twice and you have only played with Bi male couples twice.
And yes I know not everyone is the same but there you have it, that's how it is."
Thats interesting, I (like you) would have expected them to keep to their hands to themselves if that had been agreed before hand.
My wife is straight, but has been grabbed by other women without asking. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"This forum appears to have caused problems, as all quieres about male-make interaction seem to! For a section called 'advice' it seemed to be a lot of 'judgement'!
thanks so much to everyone who had something constructive to say! but I hope that admin will now close this thread as its results in general make me sad! remember this??
That was N, this is A and I'm allowed to say and post whatever I like to be honest, as everyone keeps saying its a free country, if you don't like it...move along and post on another forum please "
wasnt having a dig and it was for both of you and it was in support and like you say "its a free country" so dont tell me to move along ffs and this is ME! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"May i ask which meds CLCC?
Wow you really do have to be open in this lifestyle don't you! I have previously been on acitretin which thins the skin, and am currently on an immunosuppressant called ciclosporin. Both of them are used in the treatment of the skin condition psoriasis. Don't worry psoriasis is not contagious and you won't catch it from playing with me."
Oh you didn't have to answer! But honesty is always the best policy! Just wondered as i couldn't give blood when i was on various drugs for heart failure. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I keep my hands and any other part to myself whether that be in a club or at on a meet unless it's been discussed because believe in respect. We know it might cost us meets that I'm bi but like been said before by someone else oh well so what there's plenty of people out there who will. Not everyone in my personal circle knows I'm bi but they don't need to know whereas I feel people we might meet should know so they can make that choice whether we're right for them or not. |
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By *im1978Couple
over a year ago
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No matter how careful you are or what choices you make no one is 100% safe. There is no way for certain you can tell what people have done in the past regardless of what they say. If one is so hung up about catching something then maybe swinging is not for you. It's like driving a car. No matter how safe you are you never know when some idiot is going to come round the corner at 100 mph and smash you to pieces. Most of us take that risk daily.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm not a couple, but would not knowingly meet a bi-male or bi-male couple.
Playing with a bi male inhibits things that matter to me - such as giving blood as there are bars for 1 year after having intercourse (even if protected) with a man who has oral or anal sex with another man - not something I am willing to compromise on.
Next time you give blood tell them you actively swing and have unprotected oral sex with people who's sexual history is not 100% risk free or known to you. "
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"I'm not a couple, but would not knowingly meet a bi-male or bi-male couple.
Playing with a bi male inhibits things that matter to me - such as giving blood as there are bars for 1 year after having intercourse (even if protected) with a man who has oral or anal sex with another man - not something I am willing to compromise on.
Next time you give blood tell them you actively swing and have unprotected oral sex with people who's sexual history is not 100% risk free or known to you. "
It also stated that if you've had sex with a female, protected or not, who's had sex with a man who has sex with men.
There is nothing stated that states having oral sex with people who's background us unknown as this is clearly not considered, by what are clearly experts in their field and not just interested amateurs on a forum, to be as risky as others think.
You will find that men who have sex with men are one of the high risk categories for HIV infection. So if people choose to avoid bi-males, this could be considered sensible-statistically 5.88% of the population of men who have sex with men are HIV+
Of course that means that 94.12% aren't but some may consider 5.88% too risky. Or simply may find your sexual preferences very off putting.
I find pooh disgusting and would never knowingly ever engage in sexual contact with someone who found it a sexual pleasure, even if they said they'd not play that way with me.
People have preferences so just live with it. |
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"I'm not a couple, but would not knowingly meet a bi-male or bi-male couple.
Playing with a bi male inhibits things that matter to me - such as giving blood as there are bars for 1 year after having intercourse (even if protected) with a man who has oral or anal sex with another man - not something I am willing to compromise on.
Next time you give blood tell them you actively swing and have unprotected oral sex with people who's sexual history is not 100% risk free or known to you.
It also stated that if you've had sex with a female, protected or not, who's had sex with a man who has sex with men.
There is nothing stated that states having oral sex with people who's background us unknown as this is clearly not considered, by what are clearly experts in their field and not just interested amateurs on a forum, to be as risky as others think.
You will find that men who have sex with men are one of the high risk categories for HIV infection. So if people choose to avoid bi-males, this could be considered sensible-statistically 5.88% of the population of men who have sex with men are HIV+
Of course that means that 94.12% aren't but some may consider 5.88% too risky. Or simply may find your sexual preferences very off putting.
I find pooh disgusting and would never knowingly ever engage in sexual contact with someone who found it a sexual pleasure, even if they said they'd not play that way with me.
People have preferences so just live with it. "
Well there must be a concern otherwise they wouldn't mention not going to the dentist. However i never said that you shouldn't, all i said was tell them. The questionnaire can't cover all sexual practises. So tell them your lifestyle. They might say that's fine suck a much Dick as you like! Or they might not. Either way only then will you know if you're really a good donor. |
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over a year ago
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"Shaz don't/won't play with bi males as she finds even the thought of 2 guys at it a turn of.
Sorry, but no other way of putting it."
Rubbish. That's like me saying to someone i can't have sex with you because you had sex with someone overweight and fat people turn me off! |
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Mr L - I am both fat and bi!
It is odd how some people can say won't play with a bi guy as a preference we all have preferences some must be present during a meet other things not set in stone
With a similar type theme, if a women or couple is in to spanking but dosn't display it on there profile and you find out are they a couple to avoid in case they try to spank you during a meet? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Mr L - I am both fat and bi!
It is odd how some people can say won't play with a bi guy as a preference we all have preferences some must be present during a meet other things not set in stone
With a similar type theme, if a women or couple is in to spanking but dosn't display it on there profile and you find out are they a couple to avoid in case they try to spank you during a meet?"
No offence ment but you catch my drift? I won't meet people who eat spaghetti, disgusting! |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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What bisexual men do is with other bisexual men and this is fine by me as long as they are not doing it in my presence
I treat each and every person, male or female, bisexual or heterosexual, as if there were carriers of HIV and take precautions |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Mr L - I am both fat and bi!
It is odd how some people can say won't play with a bi guy as a preference we all have preferences some must be present during a meet other things not set in stone
With a similar type theme, if a women or couple is in to spanking but dosn't display it on there profile and you find out are they a couple to avoid in case they try to spank you during a meet?
No offence ment but you catch my drift? I won't meet people who eat spaghetti, disgusting!"
but I love spaghetti and meatballs |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Shaz don't/won't play with bi males as she finds even the thought of 2 guys at it a turn of.
Sorry, but no other way of putting it.
Rubbish. That's like me saying to someone i can't have sex with you because you had sex with someone overweight and fat people turn me off! "
I've seen threads where people have actually said they wouldn't meet people if they have met people that they are as sub standard... So no different.
If someone doesn't fit how you play.. meet someone else |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Shaz don't/won't play with bi males as she finds even the thought of 2 guys at it a turn of.
Sorry, but no other way of putting it."
Nothing wrong with that at all. Everyone has preferences, wants, desires. No-one has the right to look down on anyone else for whatever their preferences are. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Did she say she has unprotected oral with random people?
It was really advice for any swinger who thinks they are holier than thou...
No one is holier than moi "
I am!! I have 3 holes (7 including ears and nostrils!) - so I believe that's holier than you my lovely! |
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"I'm not a couple, but would not knowingly meet a bi-male or bi-male couple.
Playing with a bi male inhibits things that matter to me - such as giving blood as there are bars for 1 year after having intercourse (even if protected) with a man who has oral or anal sex with another man - not something I am willing to compromise on.
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Surely if someone is having mutiple sex partners they shouldn't be giving blood. And how do you know that these straight guys are telling the truth? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Did she say she has unprotected oral with random people?
It was really advice for any swinger who thinks they are holier than thou...
No one is holier than moi
I am!! I have 3 holes (7 including ears and nostrils!) - so I believe that's holier than you my lovely! "
Well we have 13 holes.... fuck thats unlucky erm perhaps we're not holier |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm not a couple, but would not knowingly meet a bi-male or bi-male couple.
Playing with a bi male inhibits things that matter to me - such as giving blood as there are bars for 1 year after having intercourse (even if protected) with a man who has oral or anal sex with another man - not something I am willing to compromise on.
Surely if someone is having mutiple sex partners they shouldn't be giving blood. And how do you know that these straight guys are telling the truth?"
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By *hynottsCouple
over a year ago
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"We have met couples who are both bi but not put it in there profile , there choice isn't it . We prefer to be open with our sexuality our choice . Some thinks it's ok to have a bi female but male has to be straight don't understand the difference .
Perhaps because 2 men getting it on does nothing for them? The acknowledged greater health risk of male-male sex? Personal choice.
I've been called a hypocrite for being a bi female refusing to play with bi-men... but at the end of the day, its my health, my body and my choice."
greater health risk of male-male sex don't see the different in 2 guys or 2 fems playing as we have found out a lot of guys don't admit to being bi so how would any one know they are with a bi guy unless told in the first place or do you ask all the folks you play with if there bi oral with a fem will produce fluid as it would for a male so safe sex is a must a women don't know if a guy been with a male unless he tells her then she meets a cpl or another guy so it keeps going down the line anyone can pass an std onto their next partner of play so thats why we use condoms unless we know who we are playing with but must say very very rare with us sex happens without a condom |
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If a guy has had a hand job or kissed another guy then he may list as bi on his profile but not really change anyone else's risk level. It's probably easier to check their experience and interests or just assume everyone may have had some bi contact and wouldn't know the matrix of all of everyone's partners that exists, where you've had a connection somehow. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Interesting exercise looking at the 'other' site in this family, 'FabGuys'. I only checked within immediate area of me (to minimise the number of profiles to check) and in about 10 minutes had seen 4 profiles on Fab Guys which matched profiles on Fab Swingers with same pics. I was not including people who identify as Bi or Bi Curious on FS, this was only guys who are 'straight' on Fab Swingers but present as Bi-Males or Bi Curious on Fab Guys seeking CD/TV/ Men / Male Couples.
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire) |
"I'm not a couple, but would not knowingly meet a bi-male or bi-male couple.
Playing with a bi male inhibits things that matter to me - such as giving blood as there are bars for 1 year after having intercourse (even if protected) with a man who has oral or anal sex with another man - not something I am willing to compromise on.
Next time you give blood tell them you actively swing and have unprotected oral sex with people who's sexual history is not 100% risk free or known to you. "
I did actually ask them about that - and was honest about my sexuality and history. Its a presumption that I have had loads of sexual partners because I am on here... I have slept with significantly fewer people than my more vanilla friends have - I don't meet often and the majority of my veris are social. |
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By *keg funCouple
over a year ago
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"We have met couples who are both bi but not put it in there profile , there choice isn't it . We prefer to be open with our sexuality our choice . Some thinks it's ok to have a bi female but male has to be straight don't understand the difference .
Perhaps because 2 men getting it on does nothing for them? The acknowledged greater health risk of male-male sex? Personal choice.
I've been called a hypocrite for being a bi female refusing to play with bi-men... but at the end of the day, its my health, my body and my choice."
you do realise that most me put strait on their profile but are in fact bi they are just trying to please everyone so most of the men YOU have been with are bi sorry to burst your bubble xx |
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"I'm not a couple, but would not knowingly meet a bi-male or bi-male couple.
Playing with a bi male inhibits things that matter to me - such as giving blood as there are bars for 1 year after having intercourse (even if protected) with a man who has oral or anal sex with another man - not something I am willing to compromise on.
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By *anky_PankyWoman
over a year ago
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Ok, so if the woman is straight and her man is bi, would you still fuck the woman, as she has most certainly fucked her man.....
Mine is only orally bi, and i certainly see that as no higher risk than someone who isn't as the whole point of this site is SEX, and personally I only have protected sex with others. |
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"I'm not a couple, but would not knowingly meet a bi-male or bi-male couple.
Playing with a bi male inhibits things that matter to me - such as giving blood as there are bars for 1 year after having intercourse (even if protected) with a man who has oral or anal sex with another man - not something I am willing to compromise on.
But if they play straight also, how is this an issue?"
Because 'playing straight' with one person doesn't mean that they don't have sex with other men.
If you have sex (oral or intercourse) with a man who has had sex (oral or intercourse) with another man, you cannot give blood for a whole year.
'Playing straight' doesn't magically make the NHS go 'oh, well that's ok then'. |
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"Whilst I accept and understand the health points raised, I honesty believe that the issue is more related to homophobic, straight males who think they are so irresistible that any bi male just won't be able to control themselves. . .
I identify as curious, which by its very definition means I have never been with a man. In fact I identify this way as I find trans people fascinating; not interested in manly men to be honest..."
Well I am straight and would have no problem meeting a bi male.
Homophobic has nothing to do with us not meeting bi males.
Simone is straight also and we meet bi females, but its Simone's preference not to play with bi males.
We agree not every one is truthful in their profiles so you would never really know if they are bi unless they tell you. But we would never knowingly play with a bi male.
End of the day its down to preferences, nothing more.
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"Shaz don't/won't play with bi males as she finds even the thought of 2 guys at it a turn of.
Sorry, but no other way of putting it.
Rubbish. That's like me saying to someone i can't have sex with you because you had sex with someone overweight and fat people turn me off! "
Just because it dont suit "you" it don't make it rubbish, we all prefer different things.
Shaz has tried playing with a guy a while back that she knew was bisexual, she couldn't help but keep thinking he had played with other guys and as watching guys doing stuff turns her of, the thoughts she got while playing did also.
Why should anyone play with anyone if you are not totally enjoying it, would you?
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I am straight but when swinging with Kim will be quite happy to meet bi guys, as someone as already said you tell people your likes / dislikes beforehand.
Being a videographer/photographer i have lots of bi/gay friends, if you are comfortable with your own sexuality meeting whoever shouldn't even become a problem unless you have hidden tendencies you are not sure of. |
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"Shaz don't/won't play with bi males as she finds even the thought of 2 guys at it a turn of.
Sorry, but no other way of putting it.
Rubbish. That's like me saying to someone i can't have sex with you because you had sex with someone overweight and fat people turn me off!
Just because it dont suit "you" it don't make it rubbish, we all prefer different things.
Shaz has tried playing with a guy a while back that she knew was bisexual, she couldn't help but keep thinking he had played with other guys and as watching guys doing stuff turns her of, the thoughts she got while playing did also.
Why should anyone play with anyone if you are not totally enjoying it, would you?
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"Shaz don't/won't play with bi males as she finds even the thought of 2 guys at it a turn of.
Sorry, but no other way of putting it.
Rubbish. That's like me saying to someone i can't have sex with you because you had sex with someone overweight and fat people turn me off!
Just because it dont suit "you" it don't make it rubbish, we all prefer different things.
Shaz has tried playing with a guy a while back that she knew was bisexual, she couldn't help but keep thinking he had played with other guys and as watching guys doing stuff turns her of, the thoughts she got while playing did also.
Why should anyone play with anyone if you are not totally enjoying it, would you?
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By (user no longer on site)
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We won't meet with a Bi male because we simply don't want to.
Not because of health risks or afraid of getting pounced on its a simple expression of our personal choice and long may exercising that choice continue.
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"It's because as everyone knows bi guys are serial cock grabbers, they can't help themselves. Literally no one is safe. We are surprised the daily mail have not do a front page warning about it.
"Britain on bi guy cock grabbing alert". It's probably affecting the house prices in Oxford too.
Lock your doors at night people. Stay safe."
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"I don't see why people should justify their preferences.
If someone doesn't want to meet an old, fat, black, Domme I look for those that do, not ask why! None of us has universal appeal: I know that may come as a shock to some. "
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