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over a year ago
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Now what would you consider appropriate? I recently enquired about a party that was going on, and received a message back asking for £80 to attend.
Admittedly, she said it included venue hire, refreshments & hiring security for the door, but (as her status received) they would've taken £640 this afternoon. Seems like a money spinner to me... |
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"Now what would you consider appropriate? I recently enquired about a party that was going on, and received a message back asking for £80 to attend.
Admittedly, she said it included venue hire, refreshments & hiring security for the door, but (as her status received) they would've taken £640 this afternoon. Seems like a money spinner to me... "
Parties cost money to arrange .No one is compelled to attend . Anyone who considers the charge excessive can always go else where or organise their own party. |
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"Security say 200, venue hire same again, cost of refreshments and their time spent organising everything, doesnt sound like a huge earner to me"
. Plus the cost of insurance and the risk of damage .
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I organise couples parties here at home. No need for security (that's me). I provide food and soft drinks, condoms/wipes/toys etc..... Normally 6-10 couples plus a few singles keeping numbers balanced. I make no charge to anyone. I usually have an "honesty" box for contributions to catering. Works fine! |
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Been to a party, contribution of a bottle of wine for the ladies to enjoy...
Any party that needs security is probably one that I wouldn't want to attend. If there are likely to be unsavoury types there, I would rather not be there.
If any dick head tried to spoil the party by arriving d*unk / high / abusive, I would like to think the other guys there would be gentlemen and rectify the situation.
Also I'm northern, tight with my brass and a black belt in 'ecky thump.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Seems like a money spinner to me... "
Well, it's certainly not Swinging in MY eyes!
Me, as female, single Swinger, I would very much avoid parties where there is any payment.
When I was more into Swinging than I am now, I went to friends' houses for organised parties, I invited friends around for an organised party. No one ever charged anyone.
YOU ARE NOT FORCED TO RENT A FLAT, nor does anyone FORCE you to throw a swingers party! I do not buy their arguments.
Personally I started bringing a little host or hostess gift, like soap sets, wine bottles, cakes, special brew beers, you know. Like you would when you normally visit friends! |
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Its parties asking for fees like these that should be banned on here, if it was a gang bang etc there would be hell to pay.
This is a swinging site not a sex earning site... £80 is an extreme amount to ask for and unjustified.
I have organised lots of parties over the years and never needed security but it depends on the area i suppose. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It is basically another way of saying ur paying for sex to get away from the law so it wont sound like a brothel, as they say u pay for refreshments and venue hire and the high entrance price don't suprice me at all as its a single man price lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Now what would you consider appropriate? I recently enquired about a party that was going on, and received a message back asking for £80 to attend.
Admittedly, she said it included venue hire, refreshments & hiring security for the door, but (as her status received) they would've taken £640 this afternoon. Seems like a money spinner to me... "
Did they accept Luncheon Vouchers? lol (obscure cultural reference for the oldies out there)  |
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"Now what would you consider appropriate? I recently enquired about a party that was going on, and received a message back asking for £80 to attend.
Admittedly, she said it included venue hire, refreshments & hiring security for the door, but (as her status received) they would've taken £640 this afternoon. Seems like a money spinner to me... "
tell them to f right off, that's just ludicrous, and as others have said an attempt to pretend they are not prostituting themselves |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Now what would you consider appropriate? I recently enquired about a party that was going on, and received a message back asking for £80 to attend.
Admittedly, she said it included venue hire, refreshments & hiring security for the door, but (as her status received) they would've taken £640 this afternoon. Seems like a money spinner to me...
tell them to f right off, that's just ludicrous, and as others have said an attempt to pretend they are not prostituting themselves "
Or just don't go. Jeez no one is being forced to do anything against their will. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Depends if it was a private party or an organised event like HeavenXS, Killing Kittens, Fever, Little Laision, MassPleasures etc?
Many of these charge similar prices for a couple.. pretty good events if they are what your looking for.
But as the OP doesn't who, what, where.. it's a bit difficult to comment on just the limited info provided.
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"If anyone is stupid enough to pay £80 for the chance of a shag then that's there problem "
You mean... like a fair few clubs?
I don't think that £80 for two people to enjoy a night out is actually all that much money. |
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"If anyone is stupid enough to pay £80 for the chance of a shag then that's there problem
You mean... like a fair few clubs?
I don't think that £80 for two people to enjoy a night out is actually all that much money."
you obviously have more money than I do lol. Not saying it's wrong for everyone. I am saying I would not pay £80 to attend a party on the off chance I may have sex. |
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"If anyone is stupid enough to pay £80 for the chance of a shag then that's there problem
You mean... like a fair few clubs?
I don't think that £80 for two people to enjoy a night out is actually all that much money."
If that includes a quality meal and drinks included maybe yes but swinging shouldn't be a money earner, saying this its the sex industry i suppose so no different. |
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"Now what would you consider appropriate? I recently enquired about a party that was going on, and received a message back asking for £80 to attend.
Admittedly, she said it included venue hire, refreshments & hiring security for the door, but (as her status received) they would've taken £640 this afternoon. Seems like a money spinner to me... "
I would be very careful, I know some paid for a party last year that didn't take place and once people had sent money they deleted their profile. |
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"I organise couples parties here at home. No need for security (that's me). I provide food and soft drinks, condoms/wipes/toys etc..... Normally 6-10 couples plus a few singles keeping numbers balanced. I make no charge to anyone. I usually have an "honesty" box for contributions to catering. Works fine!"
never heard a bad thing about your parties |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If anyone is stupid enough to pay £80 for the chance of a shag then that's there problem
You mean... like a fair few clubs?
I don't think that £80 for two people to enjoy a night out is actually all that much money."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If anyone is stupid enough to pay £80 for the chance of a shag then that's there problem
You mean... like a fair few clubs?
I don't think that £80 for two people to enjoy a night out is actually all that much money.
If that includes a quality meal and drinks included maybe yes but swinging shouldn't be a money earner, saying this its the sex industry i suppose so no different."
That's right, it seems swinging is about making profit for the clubs. |
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"If anyone is stupid enough to pay £80 for the chance of a shag then that's there problem
You mean... like a fair few clubs?
I don't think that £80 for two people to enjoy a night out is actually all that much money.
If that includes a quality meal and drinks included maybe yes but swinging shouldn't be a money earner, saying this its the sex industry i suppose so no different.That's right, it seems swinging is about making profit for the clubs."
The swinging industry easily makes as much or more than our crumbled adult industry. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If that includes a quality meal and drinks included maybe yes but swinging shouldn't be a money earner, saying this its the sex industry i suppose so no different."
I can't imagine anywhere that you could get a whole nights entertainment and a quality meal for £80 for two people.
However I suppose that depends on what you define as quality and what kind of entertainment you enjoy! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If anyone is stupid enough to pay £80 for the chance of a shag then that's there problem
You mean... like a fair few clubs?
I don't think that £80 for two people to enjoy a night out is actually all that much money.
If that includes a quality meal and drinks included maybe yes but swinging shouldn't be a money earner, saying this its the sex industry i suppose so no different.That's right, it seems swinging is about making profit for the clubs.
The swinging industry easily makes as much or more than our crumbled adult industry."
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If that includes a quality meal and drinks included maybe yes but swinging shouldn't be a money earner, saying this its the sex industry i suppose so no different.
I can't imagine anywhere that you could get a whole nights entertainment and a quality meal for £80 for two people.
However I suppose that depends on what you define as quality and what kind of entertainment you enjoy!"
Fun4Two in Holland top quality food, drink and live entertainment.
Look it up on google as it was voted one of the best clubs in the world.
We went through invite because we won the same awards for film of the year and they won theirs for best European club of the year.
Even Hedo 2 don't match the place so why pay £80 in a UK club for lesser standards. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If that includes a quality meal and drinks included maybe yes but swinging shouldn't be a money earner, saying this its the sex industry i suppose so no different.
I can't imagine anywhere that you could get a whole nights entertainment and a quality meal for £80 for two people.
However I suppose that depends on what you define as quality and what kind of entertainment you enjoy!
Fun4Two in Holland top quality food, drink and live entertainment.
Look it up on google as it was voted one of the best clubs in the world.
We went through invite because we won the same awards for film of the year and they won theirs for best European club of the year.
Even Hedo 2 don't match the place so why pay £80 in a UK club for lesser standards."
... and how much did your transport to the airport, your flights, your hotel, your other meals, your other expenses, etc... cost?
Not really comparable to be honest. Hopping over to go to a club in another country is going to realistically cost well over £100 per person. Which is more than £40 and a bit of petrol.
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If that includes a quality meal and drinks included maybe yes but swinging shouldn't be a money earner, saying this its the sex industry i suppose so no different.
I can't imagine anywhere that you could get a whole nights entertainment and a quality meal for £80 for two people.
However I suppose that depends on what you define as quality and what kind of entertainment you enjoy!
Fun4Two in Holland top quality food, drink and live entertainment.
Look it up on google as it was voted one of the best clubs in the world.
We went through invite because we won the same awards for film of the year and they won theirs for best European club of the year.
Even Hedo 2 don't match the place so why pay £80 in a UK club for lesser standards.
... and how much did your transport to the airport, your flights, your hotel, your other meals, your other expenses, etc... cost?
Not really comparable to be honest. Hopping over to go to a club in another country is going to realistically cost well over £100 per person. Which is more than £40 and a bit of petrol.
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. My thoughts as well. It is about freedom of choice and how you spend your money. Some people might spend days searching for meets on fab, others are quite happy to pay eighty pounds to go to a party . If you have a busy life outside fab, eight pounds for a party may not be an issue for you. |
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we recently did a swinging party at a club and yes we did charge mind was only £10 but what I will say is by the time the club was paid for and all the other bits were sorted prizes for games bucks fizz on entry and so on, lets just say by the end of it we were still well and truly out of pocket.
turned out mind to be a really great night so was well worth it xxxxxxxxxx |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If anyone is stupid enough to pay £80 for the chance of a shag then that's there problem
You mean... like a fair few clubs?
I don't think that £80 for two people to enjoy a night out is actually all that much money."
But it wasn't a night out for two people though was it? It was a party where several men were invited and expected to pay a fee of £80 each. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Recently I was invited to a gangbang at someones house and was told there was an admittance fee of £30 and was told it was to cover costs of the house owner.
Bear in mind there were minimum of ten blokes invited.
I told the said person could at my place fot free and was asked if they could ask for contributions I said no as this is trying to get round fact you ultimately charging for sex.
The messages were reported to admin and yet the person is still on fab. Beggars belief really does. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Did they accept Luncheon Vouchers? lol (obscure cultural reference for the oldies out there) "
Lols. Makes me an oldie then....!! Cythia Payne -1978...
Google - Luncheon Voucher Scandal |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Did they accept Luncheon Vouchers? lol (obscure cultural reference for the oldies out there)
Lols. Makes me an oldie then....!! Cythia Payne -1978...
Google - Luncheon Voucher Scandal"
Exactly and the basis of the court case against Payne was that the entrance fee was merely a way of getting around the laws on prostitution |
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"Security say 200, venue hire same again, cost of refreshments and their time spent organising everything, doesnt sound like a huge earner to me. Plus the cost of insurance and the risk of damage ."
Insurance? Must look for that drop down on money supermarket.... Insurance-cars, home, life, gang bangs....
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By (user no longer on site)
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"live and let live. If they want to do it, it's their business. "
Might be better if they advertise on adult work website though LOL. They might get a better response and less hastle from time wasters |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's parties asking for fees like these that should be banned on here, if it was a gang bang etc there would be hell to pay.
This is a swinging site not a sex earning site... £80 is an extreme amount to ask for and unjustified."
Seeing this thread it looks like people who are willing to exploit others financially would be more in favour of paid for parties.
I started voting with my feet. When even the best of my good, old Swinging friends started charging for parties, I would not go. Because so many of my other Swinging friends would still invite us to their own, private houses and not even for a minute connsider charging friends. Even one couple rented a flat in Liverpool and still DID NOT CHARGE ANY OF US! Now, why would they do that?   |
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By (user no longer on site)
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There is one profile on here that has regular gangbang type parties, charges blokes £80 a head for free access to two women and has been doing so for years now. They also hold couples parties monthly and charge £30 per couple but also allow single men to attend, again for £80. To my knowledge this profile has been reported many times and the last time I looked they still had all their meets posted  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There is one profile on here that has regular gangbang type parties, charges blokes £80 (...) To my knowledge this profile has been reported many times and the last time I looked they still had all their meets posted "
It is reassuring to know that someone can actually be bothered to report them! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'd say, if you consider it's a reasonable expense towards the party/venue/etc, that's obviously a personal choice and acceptable/understandable. But if someone is making money on that, that's not good at all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There is one profile on here that has regular gangbang type parties, charges blokes £80 a head for free access to two women and has been doing so for years now. "
That's awful actually! Why would someone even consider paying for this, let alone advertising such services?!? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There is one profile on here that has regular gangbang type parties, charges blokes £80 (...) To my knowledge this profile has been reported many times and the last time I looked they still had all their meets posted
It is reassuring to know that someone can actually be bothered to report them! "
I do but for reasons known to admin they are still allowed to do this can we have explanation from admin because if its a free for all re this type of thing then no point reporting. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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That's awful actually! Why would someone even consider paying for this, let alone advertising such services?!?"
Because £80 for a great night out still isn't actually that much money for some people. I appreciate that some people don't have much money or don't want to spend it on that kind of entertainment, but it really wouldn't bother me to pay that much money to get into a good fetish club or something. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I organise couples parties here at home. No need for security (that's me). I provide food and soft drinks, condoms/wipes/toys etc..... Normally 6-10 couples plus a few singles keeping numbers balanced. I make no charge to anyone. I usually have an "honesty" box for contributions to catering. Works fine!
never heard a bad thing about your parties "
Thanks for that Jaqs.....xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"live and let live. If they want to do it, it's their business.
Might be better if they advertise on adult work website though LOL. They might get a better response and less hastle from time wasters "
as far from swinging as you can possibly get |
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"There is one profile on here that has regular gangbang type parties, charges blokes £80 a head for free access to two women and has been doing so for years now.
That's awful actually! Why would someone even consider paying for this, let alone advertising such services?!?"
. Maybe it is freedom of choice . No one is compelled to attend a party and why should we concern ourselves with how others choose to spend or make their money. |
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"Now what would you consider appropriate? I recently enquired about a party that was going on, and received a message back asking for £80 to attend.
Admittedly, she said it included venue hire, refreshments & hiring security for the door, but (as her status received) they would've taken £640 this afternoon. Seems like a money spinner to me... "
I'm happy to pay a reasonable contribution towards the cost of a hotel etc. Same for entrance to clubs. If I think I'm being fleeced (however I define that) - then I won't go. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Clubs usually charge around £50 for single guys on party days. They have all the equipment, sanuas, jacuzzi, big beds, dungeon etc. They provide food, security, staff, towels and all overheads associated with running a business, rent, heat, light, insurance etc
I'd therefore never pay more than they charge as at least you know everything in a club is above board xx |
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"live and let live. If they want to do it, it's their business.
Might be better if they advertise on adult work website though LOL. They might get a better response and less hastle from time wasters "
This could well be them, it is two women doing it. Watersports seems a regular thing, though I'm not sure about couples.
Obviously I declined and reported, was just curious as to people's take. I guess mine is that whilst I have no issue with people charging for sex, as long as all parties are happy, this is a swinging site not a prostitution one - which is ultimately what it amounts to. Cheapest the rest of the site. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Actually escorts are usually £100 -£300 an hour depending on type. So your saving money by going to this party :p haha xx"
Standard rate is actually 60 for 30min |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Like others have said your not forced to go, there are several clubs that charge less and a little investigation on fabs and theres lots private parties at little or no cost.
If people refuse to go to these parties that charge they will fizzle out but judging the length some guys will go for a fuck im guessing they will keep going |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Obviously I declined and reported, was just curious as to people's take. I guess mine is that whilst I have no issue with people charging for sex, as long as all parties are happy, this is a swinging site not a prostitution one - which is ultimately what it amounts to. Cheapest the rest of the site. "
So by that extension - you also believe that swinging clubs are prostitution? |
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Obviously I declined and reported, was just curious as to people's take. I guess mine is that whilst I have no issue with people charging for sex, as long as all parties are happy, this is a swinging site not a prostitution one - which is ultimately what it amounts to. Cheapest the rest of the site.
So by that extension - you also believe that swinging clubs are prostitution?"
Clubs paying a license to the council are not classed as living off immoral earnings but private parties charging silly money are classed as earning money from prostitution by any UK council.
Ring your local council anywhere in the UK and they will tell you this. |
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Clubs paying a license to the council are not classed as living off immoral earnings but private parties charging silly money are classed as earning money from prostitution by any UK council.
Ring your local council anywhere in the UK and they will tell you this."
I wasn't commenting on the legality, but rather the ethical position of the chap. If paying money to access a sex party is prostitution, why is paying money to access a club not? |
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The problem I see is the site becoming attractive to people who do charge for access to women. Be it in a gang bang or private parties. The site would be overrun with people selling sex. |
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"It is basically another way of saying ur paying for sex to get away from the law so it wont sound like a brothel, as they say u pay for refreshments and venue hire and the high entrance price don't suprice me at all as its a single man price lol "
Aren't clubs glorified brothels , |
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Clubs paying a license to the council are not classed as living off immoral earnings but private parties charging silly money are classed as earning money from prostitution by any UK council.
Ring your local council anywhere in the UK and they will tell you this.
I wasn't commenting on the legality, but rather the ethical position of the chap. If paying money to access a sex party is prostitution, why is paying money to access a club not?"
Both are enticing men on the promise of sex for money, you pay an escort for her time not the sex and you pay a club on the hope of getting sex, both are earning money from sex actual or implied. |
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Could do with a hug!
Two (previous?) friends I've know for a few years said hello on WhatsApp, I thought it was for the kind season greetings. No, they are co-hosting with another couple of friends of ours, you know, a £10/£25/£50 pounds party and wanted to ask me to join!
Disillusioned I am!
I wanna go hide!
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"Could do with a hug!
Two (previous?) friends I've know for a few years said hello on WhatsApp, I thought it was for the kind season greetings. No, they are co-hosting with another couple of friends of ours, you know, a £10/£25/£50 pounds party and wanted to ask me to join!
Disillusioned I am!
I wanna go hide!
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Why? |
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"Now what would you consider appropriate? I recently enquired about a party that was going on, and received a message back asking for £80 to attend.
Admittedly, she said it included venue hire, refreshments & hiring security for the door, but (as her status received) they would've taken £640 this afternoon. Seems like a money spinner to me... "
Go to a club it would be cheaper. |
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"Could do with a hug!
Two (previous?) friends I've know for a few years said hello on WhatsApp, I thought it was for the kind season greetings. No, they are co-hosting with another couple of friends of ours, you know, a £10/£25/£50 pounds party and wanted to ask me to join!
Disillusioned I am!
I wanna go hide!
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I assume the lowest price is for women? Not too bad really if it covers food and possibly drink. Club might work out cheaper for you but I don't think I'd be offended by the invite. |
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By *D40Couple
over a year ago
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"I organise couples parties here at home. No need for security (that's me). I provide food and soft drinks, condoms/wipes/toys etc..... Normally 6-10 couples plus a few singles keeping numbers balanced. I make no charge to anyone. I usually have an "honesty" box for contributions to catering. Works fine!
Nobbynobs runs a good party. Next time i hope to take me knickers off
never heard a bad thing about your parties "
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
Wembley |
"If anyone is stupid enough to pay £80 for the chance of a shag then that's there problem
You mean... like a fair few clubs?
I don't think that £80 for two people to enjoy a night out is actually all that much money."
Seems fair to me too. Might be slightly pricey compared to a club but then a club benefits from economies of scale |
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"I wouldn't pay £80 for a party.
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We have, and would again.
Top end luxury penthouse apartments in London, with roof top hot tubs, _iews etc.. Help yourself to drinks.. party with hot couples and singles..
Quality times.. well worth a few quid  |
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So, exactly what do you think happens at parties in our own homes where we don't charge each other?
Rhetoric question; that's where the real Swingers meet.
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"So, exactly what do you think happens at parties in our own homes where we don't charge each other?
Rhetoric question; that's where the real Swingers meet.
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Depends swinging is meeting people for sex, supplying venues for supposed sex at a price is the same as a brothel is it not?
Both in my eyes are acceptable but as its a money earner it takes away the swinging fun and becomes a business which the authorities don't like as both sre classed as immoral earnings.
Modest fees to cover soft drinks and some food are ok with council's for home parties but charge loads and they will have you as licensed swinging clubs have to pay a small fortune for the same privilege. |
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"I'd say, if you consider it's a reasonable expense towards the party/venue/etc, that's obviously a personal choice and acceptable/understandable. But if someone is making money on that, that's not good at all."
Whats wrong with making some money for the time and effort that goes into organising a party. |
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"I'd say, if you consider it's a reasonable expense towards the party/venue/etc, that's obviously a personal choice and acceptable/understandable. But if someone is making money on that, that's not good at all.
Whats wrong with making some money for the time and effort that goes into organising a party."
Nothing but as it regards sex for cash its not legal, pay taxes liability insurances and license fees like clubs and it becomes legal. |
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"I could understand wanting to split the cost but I would say a private sex party should never turn a profit from a moral standpoint.
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we bad a few guys to our hotel a few nights back. . as it was something I wanted to do and we were therein the hotel anyway. . I would never dream of asking for an entrance fee . . swinging to me is about mutual satisfaction and needs, exploring fantasies with consenting adults . . to pay £80 is paramount to prostitution.
A friend of my was invited to a small private party. . £30 to cover costs he was cited. . one woman . . 10 guys . . in a home . . £300 for one hour is a good turn around if you ask me. . thus to me is not swinging. |
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"I'd say, if you consider it's a reasonable expense towards the party/venue/etc, that's obviously a personal choice and acceptable/understandable. But if someone is making money on that, that's not good at all.
Whats wrong with making some money for the time and effort that goes into organising a party."
The problem is your making profit from something which should be an enjoyable hobby and as such is in the throes of becoming a business, not many would object to paying towards the cost of refreshments and anything to enable the party to be a success such as condoms, lubes, wipes etc but making profit goes against the swinging principle in my opinion |
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The problem is your making profit from something which should be an enjoyable hobby and as such is in the throes of becoming a business, not many would object to paying towards the cost of refreshments and anything to enable the party to be a success such as condoms, lubes, wipes etc but making profit goes against the swinging principle in my opinion"
You see, I don't buy "you shouldn't make money from fun hobbies". People tell me all the time that I shouldn't make money from my "fun hobby" - photography - but I do. It's how I live.
Anything can be a fun hobby. And fun hobbies don't have to leave you out of pocket. It's not wrong to ask for people to help cover costs and time if you're helping them do their hobby. |
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The problem is your making profit from something which should be an enjoyable hobby and as such is in the throes of becoming a business, not many would object to paying towards the cost of refreshments and anything to enable the party to be a success such as condoms, lubes, wipes etc but making profit goes against the swinging principle in my opinion
You see, I don't buy "you shouldn't make money from fun hobbies". People tell me all the time that I shouldn't make money from my "fun hobby" - photography - but I do. It's how I live.
Anything can be a fun hobby. And fun hobbies don't have to leave you out of pocket. It's not wrong to ask for people to help cover costs and time if you're helping them do their hobby."
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The problem is your making profit from something which should be an enjoyable hobby and as such is in the throes of becoming a business, not many would object to paying towards the cost of refreshments and anything to enable the party to be a success such as condoms, lubes, wipes etc but making profit goes against the swinging principle in my opinion
You see, I don't buy "you shouldn't make money from fun hobbies". People tell me all the time that I shouldn't make money from my "fun hobby" - photography - but I do. It's how I live.
Anything can be a fun hobby. And fun hobbies don't have to leave you out of pocket. It's not wrong to ask for people to help cover costs and time if you're helping them do their hobby."
They're not directly comparable though.
Covering costs is absolutely normal and expected, I think the issue people have is the idea of making a large profit from this kind of thing.
If someone wants photos taking by you then they shouln't expect it free but that isn't the same as hosting a sex party and turning a profit.
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By *imjohnCouple
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We earn money from erotic/adult photography and films and yes make a profit otherwise it wouldn't be our day job, as we are well known and have hundreds of our own members on our pay sites it would be so easy to exploit the swinging scene.
We enjoy our work but have never made money from swinging as it then stops being swinging, there are enough sites to advertise over the top paid parties but keep them as adult parties and not swinging parties then no one is conned.
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The problem is your making profit from something which should be an enjoyable hobby and as such is in the throes of becoming a business, not many would object to paying towards the cost of refreshments and anything to enable the party to be a success such as condoms, lubes, wipes etc but making profit goes against the swinging principle in my opinion
You see, I don't buy "you shouldn't make money from fun hobbies". People tell me all the time that I shouldn't make money from my "fun hobby" - photography - but I do. It's how I live.
Anything can be a fun hobby. And fun hobbies don't have to leave you out of pocket. It's not wrong to ask for people to help cover costs and time if you're helping them do their hobby."
Photography and swinging cant be compared its totally seperate.
But you are almost agreeing with what i said previously, nobody should object towards contributing towards costs of hosting an event, the host should not be out of pocket and they deserve my utmost respect for doing this.
But when you read the posts about the amount some people are charging to attend private parties the hosts are making a vast profit and goes against the basic principle of swinging where people with similar interests meet for pleasure not profit |
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"It is basically another way of saying ur paying for sex to get away from the law so it wont sound like a brothel, as they say u pay for refreshments and venue hire and the high entrance price don't suprice me at all as its a single man price lol
Aren't clubs glorified brothels , "
not at all |
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"It is basically another way of saying ur paying for sex to get away from the law so it wont sound like a brothel, as they say u pay for refreshments and venue hire and the high entrance price don't suprice me at all as its a single man price lol
Aren't clubs glorified brothels ,
not at all"
Yes they provide a place to have sex for a price, even with brothels you only pay for the escorts time not necessarily sex but as with clubs and brothels sex is the main agenda of people visiting them.
A lone woman can legally work from home as an escort but add another one or two it then becomes a brothel which is illegal, Clubs get around the immoral earnings bit by paying for licences to councils but home parties are still officially classed as earnings from prostitution.
Councils turn a blind eye when people are being charged £20 etc as food and drink dont grow on trees, start charging more then it becomes a sex business leaving swinging as an excuse to get big money for sex so no different to a brothel in the eyes of the law.
If you want to do gang bangs/bukkakes etc and charge then advertise on non swinging sites like we do as the have no comparison to swinging. |
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I can't believe some people, we put a cum picture on our fab and got onto the hot photos I can honestly say we have had silly amount of message asking to cum on my face for money. I really don't get it. |
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My friend had a birthday party for 40 kids came to £800 with hire, entertainer and food drinks
Parties of any sort cost money..
Some of the legal facts here are not quite correct... but swinging paying for sex accepting money for are not illegal . only soliciting, pimping and brothels..
This is a very different area to a private house party not run for profit or as a business.
I have been to free parties and paid ones and all are good... Most wouldnt hold a swing party at their home ( due to security and neighbours) so im happy to contribute towards hire and food and drink and omg the clearing up afterwards .. Unless youve been or held oe youve no idea !!
If theres a good guest list then worth it for fun guaranteed,
Im surprised that apparent open minded people on a swing site question where and how other gain their legal kicks) xx
Go enjoy and find the type of interaction that suits you
Id never go to a private meet at a strangers house as a single female . way to dangerous xx
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"My friend had a birthday party for 40 kids came to £800 with hire, entertainer and food drinks
Parties of any sort cost money..
Some of the legal facts here are not quite correct... but swinging paying for sex accepting money for are not illegal . only soliciting, pimping and brothels..
This is a very different area to a private house party not run for profit or as a business.
I have been to free parties and paid ones and all are good... Most wouldnt hold a swing party at their home ( due to security and neighbours) so im happy to contribute towards hire and food and drink and omg the clearing up afterwards .. Unless youve been or held oe youve no idea !!
If theres a good guest list then worth it for fun guaranteed,
Im surprised that apparent open minded people on a swing site question where and how other gain their legal kicks) xx
Go enjoy and find the type of interaction that suits you
Id never go to a private meet at a strangers house as a single female . way to dangerous xx
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Beg to differ but any swinging party not based in a club and charging money is classed as prostitution, check with your local police/councils.
Parties with a small fee are usually overlooked but profit making sex parties are not swinging.
Its all the sex industry and to the mainstream we are all degenerates, its these make big bucks parties that spoil it for the normal swinger. |
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