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By *andm288 OP Couple
over a year ago
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Hi to all the Techy people on here !
After some advice on cloud / Nas drives if anyone can recommend a decent one ?
I was thinking of Seagate 4tb but the reviews seem to say that the transfer rate was slow
any help advice appreciated
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"Hi guys
Thanks for the info ! Can this be accessed remotely as on the Seagate cloud version ?
Thanks again "
I can assume this can do whatever you tell it to.
All depends what software you install etc.
I use mine as a media centre but people are doing loads to it.
Just google microserver proliant and loads of info. |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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"Hi to all the Techy people on here !
After some advice on cloud / Nas drives if anyone can recommend a decent one ?
I was thinking of Seagate 4tb but the reviews seem to say that the transfer rate was slow
any help advice appreciated
M "
I bought the 750gb wd red. Its a classy drive, a little faster than a 5400 drive though it is supposed to have inteli-speed up to 7200.
They were tested for 3 yrs up and downloading 10GB of data. Not one .
I don't know of any other brands though, it was the same price if not cheaper than equivalent drives |
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"PC Pro's labs winner is the Synology DiskStation DS214play. Review days superb and super fast.
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Would be my recommendation as well. Very easy to connect to over the net. They have IOS and Android apps for accessing music and vids remotely |
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"Buy a 2 bay NAS enclosure and a 2TB drive to go in it. When budget allows add a second drive for data security.
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buy a single disk NAS such as the 2TB WD MyCloud.
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The proliant is a 4 bay has server, absolute steal |
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And needs an operating system and software to be installed. Oh and a CD/DVD drive unless your going to load this from a hard drive. And a hard drive. You could go down the road of Linux etc to keep costs down but in the end you'd still end up with an overcomplicated single bay NAS with less functionality than an off the shelf product. And given the OPs stated requirements I think that might be an issue. |
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By *andm288 OP Couple
over a year ago
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Hi guys
Thanks again for all the advice
But at the end of the day I'm a Builder ( not a hairy arsed one either before the sarcasm starts lol ) and not a PC whizz kid when people start talking of seperate drives & operating systems it goes way over my head
I like the idea of adding more storage at a later date but unsure how this is done
Thanks again
Back to the bathroom fitting - |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Simply put ALL NAS systems are similar,
Speed is not important if you are accessing it over the web, they are all fast enough, slowest bit will be the web!
If you can buy one that will have 4 empty drive bays plus 1 x 2Tb drive,this will allow you to grow the system later on by adding more drives.
Configuration to your spec will take about 1 - 2 hours, local geeks are usually crap builders, look for a labour swap! |
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By *andm288 OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Simply put ALL NAS systems are similar,
Speed is not important if you are accessing it over the web, they are all fast enough, slowest bit will be the web!
If you can buy one that will have 4 empty drive bays plus 1 x 2Tb drive,this will allow you to grow the system later on by adding more drives.
Configuration to your spec will take about 1 - 2 hours, local geeks are usually crap builders, look for a labour swap!"
Sounds sensible to me happy to offer advice / work for a budding techy to help us out nothing sexual just time for time ( that's if people still do the
Old adage of favour for a favour )
Thanks again
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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it'll be hard to build/buy one for your budget, I'd say (but I'm not a tekki at all)
what will you be using it for? Media or business use? NAS drives are usually for small companies needing regular access to info/applications
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By *andm288 OP Couple
over a year ago
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"it'll be hard to build/buy one for your budget, I'd say (but I'm not a tekki at all)
what will you be using it for? Media or business use? NAS drives are usually for small companies needing regular access to info/applications
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Hi thanks mainly media ,photos etc but like the idea of accessing remotely if required
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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"it'll be hard to build/buy one for your budget, I'd say (but I'm not a tekki at all)
what will you be using it for? Media or business use? NAS drives are usually for small companies needing regular access to info/applications
Hi thanks mainly media ,photos etc but like the idea of accessing remotely if required
M"
Maybe just think about a large hard drive and appropriate software then. Have someone install it to your existing PC, and you should be able to get it for your budget. A hard drive with 7200rpm disc speed will help loading times
(Hope someone can find you a solution) |
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Can I do a small hijack and ask a techie question while all the geeks are here ?
I want to upload an access database to the cloud so a colleague can work on it. That parts easy. But I want to be able to prevent anyone else (including me) working on it while the colleague does and vice versa. I know sharepoint has a library system where you 'check out' a document so no one else can get to it, but is there any other free solution ? |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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password protect - have it known that if the doc is read only then they can modify it, if it's already open then to not ammend?
Is there not some kind of way to have multiple copies of the doc and set different passwords to then amalgamate to a master doc?
#notgotcluejusthrowingitoutthere  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Access is quite capable of being a multi-user database. so there shouldn't be any problems. BUT it's not a long term solution for cloud use, gets quite slow. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have 6tb WD MYCLOUD easy set up great to use, can use it all over the world. I use it to serve my blu Ray DVDs photos music. across my net work so the kids don't wreck the discs, can be accessed by smart Tvs (no pun intended). It also has iTunes server. They do all sizes to suite your £ needs.
Pm if you want to know more. |
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By *andm288 OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I work in It and god this is boring lol "
I could always quote trada calcs & structural loads !
Now that would be boring
But I'm just after some friendly advice
And as I don't work in IT more advice the better
Apologies for boring you
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"Access is quite capable of being a multi-user database. so there shouldn't be any problems. BUT it's not a long term solution for cloud use, gets quite slow."
But that's the problem. If more than one person work on it at the same time and make changes then which set of changes are saved. I want to restrict it so only one person can work on it at a time. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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£150 isn't much to play with I'm afraid due to the high cost of hard drives still.
I would seriously recommend a 2-bay one and putting two drives in raid-1 so you get some sort of redundancy should one of the drives fail and you won't lose all your stuff.
2x2tb hard drives will pretty much eat up your budget though. |
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To be honest a NAS is over complicating things, what your trying to achieve can be done with iCloud, Google Drive etc. unless you are looking to use if for streaming purposes these will be totally fine for what you want, and if you run out of space you can go for a paid service which will give you more space to play with |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"To be honest a NAS is over complicating things, what your trying to achieve can be done with iCloud, Google Drive etc. unless you are looking to use if for streaming purposes these will be totally fine for what you want, and if you run out of space you can go for a paid service which will give you more space to play with "
lol true very limited on space. Google snooper  Microsoft do a good service on sky drive or now sky one drive. |
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Hi ... since seems lots of techies about ... I went to re start pc after Iit been off for couple months .. and the dreaded ... read disc error... message came up on screen ... ... advise please .. even pretty please ..... lol |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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"Hi ... since seems lots of techies about ... I went to re start pc after Iit been off for couple months .. and the dreaded ... read disc error... message came up on screen ... ... advise please .. even pretty please ..... lol "
try a disc checkup, AVG do fee security with a one time only "fix performance now" function that is dont by PC Tune Up. It essentially checks for adware, errors on your disc/registry and cleans it all up |
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"Can I do a small hijack and ask a techie question while all the geeks are here ?
I want to upload an access database to the cloud so a colleague can work on it. That parts easy. But I want to be able to prevent anyone else (including me) working on it while the colleague does and vice versa. I know sharepoint has a library system where you 'check out' a document so no one else can get to it, but is there any other free solution ?"
Could think abouts using Microsoft TFS for the cloud?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hi ... since seems lots of techies about ... I went to re start pc after Iit been off for couple months .. and the dreaded ... read disc error... message came up on screen ... ... advise please .. even pretty please ..... lol
try a disc checkup, AVG do fee security with a one time only "fix performance now" function that is dont by PC Tune Up. It essentially checks for adware, errors on your disc/registry and cleans it all up"
Use windows to run a disk check up, open a command prompt window and type "chkdsk " you will be then need to restart the machine and a disk check will run after restarting. If there are errors on the disk windows will repair them unless the disk has totally failed in which case your screwed lol
Hope that helps  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hi ... since seems lots of techies about ... I went to re start pc after Iit been off for couple months .. and the dreaded ... read disc error... message came up on screen ... ... advise please .. even pretty please ..... lol "
if you PC don't boot at all chances are the little cr2032 battery is dead inside and you bios is Not seeing your hard drive, pm if this is the case.
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Could think abouts using Microsoft TFS for the cloud?
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The cloud part isn't the problem. It's making sure that only one of us accesses the database at any one time, otherwise there is a danger that we'll both be making changes at the same time and the files will get out of sync. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Micro server is good start point within budget £149.99 after cashback.
Has a 250gb to start u off and can add extra disks as u go along.
Though if u happy with non new, buy second hand tower desktop,sata motherboard intel/amd unimportant add a 3tb disk or two and a giga lan card install xbmc on pc, and get pi with xbmc from amazon to plug into tv done,add drives to tower as needed.
If u set on nas u can get cheap dual drive disks aswell under £100 on ebuyer
But shop around for best price
Dabs
Ebuyer
Overclockers
Ccl
Also checkout gumtree and studentlaptops for reconditioned kit
There is also a recycling plant at briton ferry triple e that specialises in pc recycling |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Can I do a small hijack and ask a techie question while all the geeks are here ?
I want to upload an access database to the cloud so a colleague can work on it. That parts easy. But I want to be able to prevent anyone else (including me) working on it while the colleague does and vice versa. I know sharepoint has a library system where you 'check out' a document so no one else can get to it, but is there any other free solution ?"
Have a look at option for shared access database (mdb)
( // office. microsoft. com / en-gb / access-help / set-options-for-a-shared-access-database-mdb-HP005188297. aspx
Might help with what ur looking for. Also look at boxcrypt for extra security. |
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By *andm288 OP Couple
over a year ago
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big thanks to all the friendly people that have taken their time to offer advice we are in your debt
on a lighter note if anyone ever wants an building /plumbing advice then please do not hesitate to ask
not pitching for work just happy to offer friendly advice
M |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just had my daily message from Maplins they have a 4Tb Cloud activated NAS server on offer for £169 at the moment. doesn't say what actual disk configuration is in it but bargain price and close to your budget.
Search for:-
Maplins WD 4TB My Cloud NAS External Hard Drive
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"put a samsung evo ssd in the other day - my laptop geekmode has gone mental"
Have fitted several SSD's of late they are most definitely the way forward ! |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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"put a samsung evo ssd in the other day - my laptop geekmode has gone mental
Good choice sir!"
thing is it's not as if a regular hd doesnt do the job. But for £60 and the reduction time of boot up, it's a great way to save you waiting around  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Guys now you are just confusing me thought that the Seagate drive was best option
But what are SSD? Not Std obviously but did have to read twice lol"
SSD - Solid State Drive, basically a massive flash drive if you like, no moving parts and MASSIVE speed increase.
Have a 128GB SSD for my OS only and can boot in under 10 seconds to desktop |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Guys now you are just confusing me thought that the Seagate drive was best option
But what are SSD? Not Std obviously but did have to read twice lol"
Don't worry about SSD (solid state drive), they aren't really for large storage at the moment (they come in smaller sizes but are much quicker than normal hard drives partly due to not being mechanical and no moving parts). We were just getting out geek on.
All drives are much of a muchness so just get what make you can afford really. I just have a preference to Samsung but would have no issues getting Seagate or WD if they were a decent price. |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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"Guys now you are just confusing me thought that the Seagate drive was best option
But what are SSD? Not Std obviously but did have to read twice lol"
Same as what people have already said.
SSD = solid state drive. They are just fot speed not storage at the mo, unless you have about £400 for a big one (and even that is only 1tb - so dont bother looking)
Seagate, WD and Samsung are the big manufacturer names of hard drives and they come in varying performance speeds that will increase boot up times or reliability depending what specs you get.
The HD speeds are 5400 rpm, 7200 rpm and 10,000 rpm. WD have introduced Inteli-speed (which stays at the standard 5400rpm but can increase to 7200rpm if under load) 10,000 rpm drives again are not available with 4tb of space.
NAS drives are usually the slower 5400rpm drives - simply because they are designed for longevity not boot up speeds. But you do see the difference in something appearing on your screen with the faster 7200/ssd drives. |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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to add - a hard drive, is a hard drive, is a hard drive. I think they all last as long as each other and it's pot luck if they last or fail. A generic hd will last years, a NAS drive (still made by seagate or wd or whoever) should theoretically last longer, but it's just another label for a general HD. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Speed of the drive is not the key factor on a NAS.
Speed is the slowest point in the link, on a NAS that will be the network speed 1000bits per second on a clear high speed cabled network, 54bits per second on a wireless link (if you are lucky!)
SO longevity is your answer Seagate and WD are very good drives, I would rate Samsung slightly higher but that is more speed than longevity on which all are equally likely to stop when you least desire it, but not for a long time!
SATA3 is capable of speeds faster than a mechanical drive can physically deliver, SATA2 was just a fraction over the mechanical speed limit, so SSD's day is dawning. EVO 250Gb just went into my desktop, leaving the 5 year old 128Gb to go into my laptop, both are now much improved  |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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I dont know why more people dont go for the evo - It has the highest read/write speeds of any and is usually cheaper. The reviews say they have been tested very hard too.
Tery and June... Have you enabled/loaded magician software (I think it is) that comes with the evo - apparently this gives an option to enable a 'rapid' function to get those 520mbs speeds? |
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