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Odds stacked up against single men

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

The problem I'm having is presenting myself to a person before I'm disregarded. I think women get absolutely bombarded by hungry eager messages. I'm reletively new to this site and I want to be seen and understood I'm from Sonoma county and I would really like to find networking ideas to get my message a cross. Any ideas? I'm looking for women and couples Have a great day.

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By *r_Chips669Man over a year ago

Manchester

I find it impossible but the important thing i like to is just be nice and friendly that way your different to the rest with the pestering from the start

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The problem I'm having is presenting myself to a person before I'm disregarded. I think women get absolutely bombarded by hungry eager messages. I'm reletively new to this site and I want to be seen and understood I'm from Sonoma county and I would really like to find networking ideas to get my message a cross. Any ideas? I'm looking for women and couples Have a great day.

Look at some single guys profiles and see how they wrote them , look at the verifications and see if it works

The odds are not stacked against you it's not the people who you write to fault you are not getting a. Meet it's yours for not putting as much effort in as the guys that are getting meets.

Most couples have the guy reading the first message , so a cock pic and saying I want to fuck you doesn't work.

If the woman is reading the mails, you have approx 3 seconds for her creepy weirdo radar to decide if your in that bracket

As always rewrite your profile, and remember some people can get meets and some don't ever meet

But most importantly remember in. Couples profiles the chances are the couple have already found their perfect partner

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Look at some single guys profiles and see how they wrote them , look at the verifications and see if it works

The odds are not stacked against you it's not the people who you write to fault you are not getting a. Meet it's yours for not putting as much effort in as the guys that are getting meets.

Most couples have the guy reading the first message , so a cock pic and saying I want to fuck you doesn't work.

If the woman is reading the mails, you have approx 3 seconds for her creepy weirdo radar to decide if your in that bracket

As always rewrite your profile, and remember some people can get meets and some don't ever meet

But most importantly remember in. Couples profiles the chances are the couple have already found their perfect partner "

Well said

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Embrace the challenge be creative and be polite and you should be fine

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think the genuine blokes with a good written out profile and good pics that are not overly xxx rated are on to a winner.

we have had messages off genuine guys and that night have been helping me give Nik a good time.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think what works for one man don't work for another . Just be ur self and chill

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the genuine blokes with a good written out profile and good pics that are not overly xxx rated are on to a winner.

we have had messages off genuine guys and that night have been helping me give Nik a good time."

exactly.

polite guys that save waggling their dicks in your face until they are actually naked in front of you, are usually onto a winner

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the genuine blokes with a good written out profile and good pics that are not overly xxx rated are on to a winner.

we have had messages off genuine guys and that night have been helping me give Nik a good time.

exactly.

polite guys that save waggling their dicks in your face until they are actually naked in front of you, are usually onto a winner"

Exactly. Seeing a cock pic means nothing. It gives no impression of character, humour, ability, lack of B.O!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the genuine blokes with a good written out profile and good pics that are not overly xxx rated are on to a winner.

we have had messages off genuine guys and that night have been helping me give Nik a good time."

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

see... the main issue for me is that the title of the thread almost seems like it is being used as a kop out to leave you blameless.....

you create your own fortune on here... it is not decided by others dependant on numbers.......

you have to find a way for you to stand out in the best way you seem fit...

do i think you are doing that... not even remotely close.....

time, patience, basic common sense..... if you feel that would you are doing now reflects the best of you... dont listen to a word anyone says....

but since you are here and asking for advice... I am guessing that is not the case...

sit down, pen, paper and actually think about what you are trying to attract and what you are saying about you... not just some fluff lines and buzz words you think will do the job.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yeah it sucks. I'm having the same trouble. Had so many time wasters, cock teasers and fakes recently it's unbelievable. Really pisses me off all the females all out looking for couples and the single guys never seem to get a look in.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I'm only on here to meet single guys. The problem with the op is he's a bit too far away!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think a lot of women are, but I think the single guy hunters are in the minority + the single guys are in the majority.

I just want to be used as a piss slut, male equivalent of a cum slut. Seems pretty easy for women to explore that kink if they want, but the sort of reciprocal scenario for men is not so easy.

I need to touch some real female flesh badly, but would settle for just being pissed on by a group of women if nothing else, can't even manage to arrange that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A guy can make his profile more attractive to me by doing the following

1. decent face pics - not frowning or looking at the camera

2. Nice torso pic ( and if must just one cock pic)

3. Get photo veried

4. Get cam veried very quickly

5. Then try and get meet veried even if social ( but check quality of the veri)

6. Site supporter shows you mean to stay

7. Well written profile makes you appear interesting

If guy is attractive to me - the above can determine if I reply x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm only on here to meet single guys. The problem with the op is he's a bit too far away!"

I'm on here to meet single men but my problem is that most men are too far away

I know I can chose to live anywhere I want, but this is the place I was born and there are very few men in my age range within a 30 mile radius. So it's not plain sailing for all single women either

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By *ruitWoman over a year ago

near kings lynn

I won't meet men with no avatar for example.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I send pics with every message but most don't get read or deleted instantly.

I made up a kind of joke profile in the hope I might attract a female with my strange sense of wit, but perhaps the humour is wasted on most here..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think a lot of women are, but I think the single guy hunters are in the minority + the single guys are in the majority.

I just want to be used as a piss slut, male equivalent of a cum slut. Seems pretty easy for women to explore that kink if they want, but the sort of reciprocal scenario for men is not so easy.

I need to touch some real female flesh badly, but would settle for just being pissed on by a group of women if nothing else, can't even manage to arrange that."

If you are really looking for that and can;t understand why it might be difficult then you really, really need to look at your sense of expectation.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I send pics with every message but most don't get read or deleted instantly.

I made up a kind of joke profile in the hope I might attract a female with my strange sense of wit, but perhaps the humour is wasted on most here..

Your username would put us off. We wouldn;t bother to read the "joke" profile.

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By *adybee77Woman over a year ago

MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire)

"I send pics with every message but most don't get read or deleted instantly.

I made up a kind of joke profile in the hope I might attract a female with my strange sense of wit, but perhaps the humour is wasted on most here..

Not wasted, just I would rather know the real person who appeals to me to meet, rather than have to work hard at it. Basically, if a profile leaves me none the wiser to the real person behind it, its a not for me. Maybe a bit jokey, but with some real info in there too.

And yeah the user name would put me off as well.

To the OP - start polite and chatty, and ask questions. Make them open questions, that require a little thought. Make sure you read profiles, and then read them again, Tailor it to each person - and if addressing a couple - talk to both...!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Your username would put us off. We wouldn;t bother to read the "joke" profile."

Well I guess ultimately I would like to find a female with a sense of humour, and the sense to recognise humour when it is that, if that is not raising my expectations too high.

I'd settle for just the sex though, of course, because as a single male I cannot be too choosey.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Your username would put us off. We wouldn;t bother to read the "joke" profile.

Well I guess ultimately I would like to find a female with a sense of humour, and the sense to recognise humour when it is that, if that is not raising my expectations too high.

I'd settle for just the sex though, of course, because as a single male I cannot be too choosey."
You should be choosey and be aware that there are lots of people on this site who are not!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Your username would put us off. We wouldn;t bother to read the "joke" profile.

Well I guess ultimately I would like to find a female with a sense of humour, and the sense to recognise humour when it is that, if that is not raising my expectations too high.

I'd settle for just the sex though, of course, because as a single male I cannot be too choosey.You should be choosey and be aware that there are lots of people on this site who are not!"

Crikey, that was quick exit

Was he/she too choosy I wonder

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By *oxy_minxWoman over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

Your username would put us off. We wouldn;t bother to read the "joke" profile.

Well I guess ultimately I would like to find a female with a sense of humour, and the sense to recognise humour when it is that, if that is not raising my expectations too high.

I'd settle for just the sex though, of course, because as a single male I cannot be too choosey.You should be choosey and be aware that there are lots of people on this site who are not!"

Who said that???

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well oddly enough I got chatting to a couple of women last night who both thought my profile was amusing. So maybe I'll leave it for a while. They still both appear to have decided that 'I'm not their type' though and that I 'should have no problem finding someone else because I'm a good looking guy' etc...

Same old same old. Women get to be as picky as they like and single guys pretty much have to take what they can get. This needs to change.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well oddly enough I got chatting to a couple of women last night who both thought my profile was amusing. So maybe I'll leave it for a while. They still both appear to have decided that 'I'm not their type' though and that I 'should have no problem finding someone else because I'm a good looking guy' etc...

Same old same old. Women get to be as picky as they like and single guys pretty much have to take what they can get. This needs to

change."

Having no pictures on your profile puts you at a big disadvantage. Like you say it is competitive so why make things harder for

yourself.

Call yourself take that pretend your Robbie

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Same old same old. Women get to be as picky as they like and single guys pretty much have to take what they can get. This needs to change."

Dont worry about it. The only reason that girls on here can be picky is because most guys on fab will fuck anything with a pulse not because the girl is nowt special. just have a wank & be patient. Your time will come.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If I keep wanking like I am currently I'll have no spunk left by the time I get laid!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If I keep wanking like I am currently I'll have no spunk left by the time I get laid!"

Haha or go blind

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By *othingButCocoChanelWoman over a year ago

Glasgow

Same old same old. Women get to be as picky as they like and single guys pretty much have to take what they can get. This needs to change."

So...... Give me a suggestion that would change this?????

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Same old same old. Women get to be as picky as they like and single guys pretty much have to take what they can get. This needs to change.

So...... Give me a suggestion that would change this?????"

He might have a great personality

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By *othingButCocoChanelWoman over a year ago

Glasgow

Same old same old. Women get to be as picky as they like and single guys pretty much have to take what they can get. This needs to change.

Surprised you have even had a meet lovely attitude.... Its not the females fault guys will fuck anything, maybe if they werent so desperate females couldnt be as picky

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By *othingButCocoChanelWoman over a year ago

Glasgow

Same old same old. Women get to be as picky as they like and single guys pretty much have to take what they can get. This needs to change.

So...... Give me a suggestion that would change this?????

He might have a great personality

That doesnt answer my question:

He said females get to be picky, guys have to take what they get so how do u suggest that could change....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Same old same old. Women get to be as picky as they like and single guys pretty much have to take what they can get. This needs to change.

So...... Give me a suggestion that would change this?????

He might have a great personality

That doesnt answer my question:

He said females get to be picky, guys have to take what they get so how do u suggest that could change...."

If you read other threads on here the fab women only go for personality now. You could look like george clooney but if your personality stinks your out of luck. Id say just sit patient. im mean even ive had meets even though my attitude stinks

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By *othingButCocoChanelWoman over a year ago

Glasgow

Same old same old. Women get to be as picky as they like and single guys pretty much have to take what they can get. This needs to change.

So...... Give me a suggestion that would change this?????

He might have a great personality

That doesnt answer my question:

He said females get to be picky, guys have to take what they get so how do u suggest that could change....

Again you have failed to answer my question

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Same old same old. Women get to be as picky as they like and single guys pretty much have to take what they can get. This needs to change.

So...... Give me a suggestion that would change this?????

He might have a great personality

That doesnt answer my question:

He said females get to be picky, guys have to take what they get so how do u suggest that could change....

Again you have failed to answer my question"

Perhaps if most guys on here just didnt fuck anything that moves & not just shut there eyes & think of england & wait for a girl they find attractive then women on here couldnt be so picky. but you have more chance of pigs flying

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" The only reason that girls on here can be picky is because most guys on fab will fuck anything with a pulse not because the girl is nowt special. "

Really??!!

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By *othingButCocoChanelWoman over a year ago

Glasgow

Same old same old. Women get to be as picky as they like and single guys pretty much have to take what they can get. This needs to change.

So...... Give me a suggestion that would change this?????

He might have a great personality

That doesnt answer my question:

He said females get to be picky, guys have to take what they get so how do u suggest that could change....

Again you have failed to answer my question

Well in that case, its the guys fault isnt it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" The only reason that girls on here can be picky is because most guys on fab will fuck anything with a pulse not because the girl is nowt special.

Really??!!"

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By *uietlyKinkyUsCouple over a year ago

midlands

I disagree that odds are stacked against single men.

I know some single men that turn down more women than my single lady friends or i do.

Its so easy to say its not my fault i can't get a meet; women are so choosey.

Network, invest effort & try something other than moaning Im so hard done by, over wanked, & looking for the diverse end of the spectrum (really how many women want to group together to piss on someone; on a swinging site

)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I disagree that odds are stacked against single men.

I know some single men that turn down more women than my single lady friends or i do.

Its so easy to say its not my fault i can't get a meet; women are so choosey.

)

I disagree with your disagreement

The ratio for Men to Ladies is probably over 20 to 1

But I do agree far to many guys whine and moan, instead of just getting along with it, its not quick and easy to get meets, but it your patent and polite they will come along :-0

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I disagree that odds are stacked against single men.

I know some single men that turn down more women than my single lady friends or i do.

Its so easy to say its not my fault i can't get a meet; women are so choosey.

)

None apparently, although some are into it. It's not gonna stop me asking. If for no other reason than perhaps there is an iota of compassion left in the modern female psyche. Back in 1998 when I finally managed to persuade my ex gf to do it to me she admitted to getting off on the fact I was getting off on her piss. So it can be a two way thing.

Watersports is a fairly widespread kink, and lots of people are into, don't judge me for it.

Women and men are in roughly equal numbers so there's something wrong with the world if so many single guys there are so lonely and frustrated as to come on the forums and further add to their lack of prowess by whining about it.

I take your point though that it's not just single guys who aren't getting laid. If I was in the same position as a single female though I'm sure I'd have no trouble arranging a bukkake session though, to gain at least some form of sexual gratification to assuage my frustrations.

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By *wingerdelightCouple over a year ago

eastliegh

Same old same old. Women get to be as picky as they like and single guys pretty much have to take what they can get. This needs to change."

sorry ifyou cant get a meet then you need to look at the way you are going about things, its not up to everyone else to change to suit you im afraid

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By *oxy_minxWoman over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

I don't think the odds are stacked against single men, for me it is quite simple....or it should be!

Have a decent profile that tells the reader about you, what you are looking for and also what you can offer! Oh and have some decent pics of you up (doesn't have to be face pics)

Once contact has been made, please try and make an effort in making conversation, and not straight into 'fancy a meet'

It really isn't rocket science!

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By *wingerdelightCouple over a year ago

eastliegh

"I don't think the odds are stacked against single men, for me it is quite simple....or it should be!

Have a decent profile that tells the reader about you, what you are looking for and also what you can offer! Oh and have some decent pics of you up (doesn't have to be face pics)

Once contact has been made, please try and make an effort in making conversation, and not straight into 'fancy a meet'

It really isn't rocket science!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't think the odds are stacked against single men, for me it is quite simple....or it should be!

Have a decent profile that tells the reader about you, what you are looking for and also what you can offer! Oh and have some decent pics of you up (doesn't have to be face pics)

Once contact has been made, please try and make an effort in making conversation, and not straight into 'fancy a meet'

It really isn't rocket science!

What do you think I am doing? There's a face pic on my profile for friends and I send one out with every message, even if the female has no face pics.

I've got good banter, I'm intelligent and maybe too forward sometimes. I know how this works.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't think the odds are stacked against single men, for me it is quite simple....or it should be!

Have a decent profile that tells the reader about you, what you are looking for and also what you can offer! Oh and have some decent pics of you up (doesn't have to be face pics)

Once contact has been made, please try and make an effort in making conversation, and not straight into 'fancy a meet'

It really isn't rocket science!

Thats hitting the nail firmly on the top of the head

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By *wingerdelightCouple over a year ago

eastliegh

"I don't think the odds are stacked against single men, for me it is quite simple....or it should be!

Have a decent profile that tells the reader about you, what you are looking for and also what you can offer! Oh and have some decent pics of you up (doesn't have to be face pics)

Once contact has been made, please try and make an effort in making conversation, and not straight into 'fancy a meet'

It really isn't rocket science!

What do you think I am doing? There's a face pic on my profile for friends and I send one out with every message, even if the female has no face pics.

I've got good banter, I'm intelligent and maybe too forward sometimes. I know how this works."

yo be honest with you we wouldnt reply to a message from you, no public pics and a profile that says nothing about you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Besides, I have a face pic on my avatar, that's all I wish to share for privacy reasons on my profile. Some women like the direct approach, some don't. Some like face pics, some like cock pics. They all have different buttons to press, yet time and again I find that I'm 'just not their type'. What can I do about that?

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By *uietlyKinkyUsCouple over a year ago

midlands

"I disagree that odds are stacked against single men.

I know some single men that turn down more women than my single lady friends or i do.

Its so easy to say its not my fault i can't get a meet; women are so choosey.

)

Watersports is a fairly widespread kink, and lots of people are into, don't judge me for it.

Couples are always 'commenting' on how difficult it is to get men to actually attend bukkake and gang bangs, which are much much common than a group of women being into watersports

I think your expectations are a little high, as I said its a swinging site; and whilst some women will be into watersports; getting a group of them, to yourself

You might find an alternative site less frustrating with this particular search.

Or restrict your expectations to swinging meets (on here) and join in with socials & club meets (as I said previously, networking)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

yo be honest with you we wouldnt reply to a message from you, no public pics and a profile that says nothing about you"

And what if I included a clear face pic in my message and some details about me?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Besides, I have a face pic on my avatar, that's all I wish to share for privacy reasons on my profile. Some women like the direct approach, some don't. Some like face pics, some like cock pics. They all have different buttons to press, yet time and again I find that I'm 'just not their type'. What can I do about that?"

If I saw a Woman's profile that read the same as yours I would move swiftly on to the next

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Couples are always 'commenting' on how difficult it is to get men to actually attend bukkake and gang bangs, which are much much common than a group of women being into watersports

I think your expectations are a little high, as I said its a swinging site; and whilst some women will be into watersports; getting a group of them, to yourself

You might find an alternative site less frustrating with this particular search.

Or restrict your expectations to swinging meets (on here) and join in with socials & club meets (as I said previously, networking) "

Watersports is a listed kink on here, and I'll set my expectations as high as I wish. There are women out there who are into this, and yes I am on other sites more geared towards this type of thing, and currently sitting on a few 'maybes'

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By *wingerdelightCouple over a year ago

eastliegh

yo be honest with you we wouldnt reply to a message from you, no public pics and a profile that says nothing about you

And what if I included a clear face pic in my message and some details about me? "

yes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If I saw a Woman's profile that read the same as yours I would move swiftly on to the next "

I would see the humour in it and be all over her. I like a GSOH. Everyone is different. My profile is working on some women, evidently from yesterday. I was complimented twice on my efforts to appear different to all other guys, so I'll keep it as it is for now.

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By *wingerdelightCouple over a year ago

eastliegh

"If I saw a Woman's profile that read the same as yours I would move swiftly on to the next

well ifyou decide to do that dont complain, lots of good advice on this subject on the site

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just dont choose a cock picture. Every lady knows what one looks like & when im browsing the last thing i wanna see is some minging cock picture

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By *wingerdelightCouple over a year ago

eastliegh

we like to see a cock pic

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Thanks but I hate talking about myself on my profile, it brings out the narcissist in me, and women don't like that.

GSOH=intelligence, which I would prefer to attract as well.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just dont choose a cock picture. Every lady knows what one looks like & when im browsing the last thing i wanna see is some minging cock picture"

I have a nice cock, so I have been told

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If I saw a Woman's profile that read the same as yours I would move swiftly on to the next

just read it.

its not serious, granted, but its nit really funny fella

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A guy can make his profile more attractive to me by doing the following

1. decent face pics - not frowning or looking at the camera

2. Nice torso pic ( and if must just one cock pic)

3. Get photo veried

4. Get cam veried very quickly

5. Then try and get meet veried even if social ( but check quality of the veri)

6. Site supporter shows you mean to stay

7. Well written profile makes you appear interesting

If guy is attractive to me - the above can determine if I reply x "

See there are literally thausands with this haha, I get no luck either guys

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

just read it.

its not serious, granted, but its nit really funny fella"

its nit funny? Not sure what you mean there, not or is?

Anyway, if anyone doesn't find it funny then they clearly are lacking in the humour stakes.

I could and have tried the conventional approach, but at the end of the day I still never get contacted by females. It's always me contacting them. Hardly anyone ever looks at my profile anyway.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

just read it.

its not serious, granted, but its nit really funny fella

its nit funny? Not sure what you mean there, not or is?

Anyway, if anyone doesn't find it funny then they clearly are lacking in the humour stakes.

I could and have tried the conventional approach, but at the end of the day I still never get contacted by females. It's always me contacting them. Hardly anyone ever looks at my profile anyway."

Your profile says nothing about YOU it's based on a fictional character not the real person behind it. You have no photos so what are women going to message you based on?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Your profile says nothing about YOU it's based on a fictional character not the real person behind it. You have no photos so what are women going to message you based on?

It says I have a GSOH and I am intelligent. There is a small face pic on my avatar and I send details about me and a face pic with messages, as i already stated.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Your profile says nothing about YOU it's based on a fictional character not the real person behind it. You have no photos so what are women going to message you based on?

It says I have a GSOH and I am intelligent. There is a small face pic on my avatar and I send details about me and a face pic with messages, as i already stated."

So what your saying is your profile works for you on this site your having as much fun as you need so there is no need to change or do anything

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Your profile says nothing about YOU it's based on a fictional character not the real person behind it. You have no photos so what are women going to message you based on?

It says I have a GSOH and I am intelligent. There is a small face pic on my avatar and I send details about me and a face pic with messages, as i already stated."

You said women don't message you I am suggesting why. Many guys are intelligent have a sense of humour photos and better taste in music

Jokes aside if what your doing works for you then crack on fella.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't think the odds are stacked against single men, for me it is quite simple....or it should be!

Have a decent profile that tells the reader about you, what you are looking for and also what you can offer! Oh and have some decent pics of you up (doesn't have to be face pics)

Once contact has been made, please try and make an effort in making conversation, and not straight into 'fancy a meet'

It really isn't rocket science!

Well even if the OP isn't willing to take the advice , I am!

I've recently been actively looking on here and I'm fairly quick to ask for a meet, in my world that's because I don't want to exchange endless superficial chitchat with people over the Internet or get stuck sending photos to odd balls I'd rather meet up, see if they're genuine, have a drink and see if there's attraction. Is 'meet' the wrong word to use? I'm suspecting it may be!

To old man zane, for what it's worth I think you may want to adjust your attitude and be open to the fact you may have got something wrong- compromise is what makes the world go around, you can't expect the masses to change to suit you... Unless maybe you're Rkelly

I think the most worrying thing is the mindset 'males and females are in even numbers why are there frustrated men having to resort to trawling the internet to meet females'

That seems a bit unhealthy , it's not about fair or unfair -if you just want to go out and meet someone i'd say you have a million times better chance out in the real world. The problem with that is usually expectations mean you let someone down if you're just looking for NSA fun (even just a one night stand) if you don't want to do that to people and meet people with the same expectations here would be the place.

Good luck though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I send pics with every message but most don't get read or deleted instantly.

I made up a kind of joke profile in the hope I might attract a female with my strange sense of wit, but perhaps the humour is wasted on most here..

Your username would put us off. We wouldn;t bother to read the "joke" profile."

What works got some wont work for others. The op might think you joke to much and would wonder if the profile is even real. It's creative I guess but your on here for sex...no need for all that extra stuff. Since you are creative just rewrite your profile to attract others

Good luck

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

just read it.

its not serious, granted, but its nit really funny fella

its nit funny? Not sure what you mean there, not or is?

Anyway, if anyone doesn't find it funny then they clearly are lacking in the humour stakes.

I could and have tried the conventional approach, but at the end of the day I still never get contacted by females. It's always me contacting them. Hardly anyone ever looks at my profile anyway."

sorry, spelling mistake.

its NOT funny.

and, having done a standup set and getting good feedback, i think i do pretty ok with my SOH thanks muchly

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"To old man zane, for what it's worth I think you may want to adjust your attitude and be open to the fact you may have got something wrong- compromise is what makes the world go around, you can't expect the masses to change to suit you... Unless maybe you're Rkelly"

Less of the old! MIddle aged Zayn and spell my name right!

Anyway, I dot have a bad attitude. I'm just a single guy trying my best. I'll certainly take on board your advice though mr six pack.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Haha it's clearly an 8 pack

.....

There's no guarantees it's good advice but makes sense in my head. If there one place in the world to have an open mind it's on this site!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Who said I don't have an open mind? Who says I'm going to keep my profile like this forever?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Look at some single guys profiles and see how they wrote them , look at the verifications and see if it works

The odds are not stacked against you it's not the people who you write to fault you are not getting a. Meet it's yours for not putting as much effort in as the guys that are getting meets.

Most couples have the guy reading the first message , so a cock pic and saying I want to fuck you doesn't work.

If the woman is reading the mails, you have approx 3 seconds for her creepy weirdo radar to decide if your in that bracket

As always rewrite your profile, and remember some people can get meets and some don't ever meet

But most importantly remember in. Couples profiles the chances are the couple have already found their perfect partner

Well said"

easier said than done. I've been accused of doing cut and paste jobs. Never done a cut and paste but been accused and blocked instantly after the unfair allegations.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Some women/couples do seem to make it very difficult. There are many on here who judge a book by its cover rather than spend a little time to find out more. Half don't even have the decency to reply with a polite no thanks. Then there is the crowd with the shopping list of expectations(cock size, height, 6 pack etc). This can put guys off. I don't particularly take much interest in shopping list profiles it just shows how shallow some people are. I'm not blessed in all areas but have generally had good sex over the years. And I put that down to being attentive in bed. And none of my best experiences have been on here.

love to be proved wrong one day as I'm sure there are a small group, single and couples who are amazing in the bed.

Don't be a crowd pleaser just be yourself.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Some women/couples do seem to make it very difficult. There are many on here who judge a book by its cover rather than spend a little time to find out more. Half don't even have the decency to reply with a polite no thanks. Then there is the crowd with the shopping list of expectations(cock size, height, 6 pack etc). This can put guys off. I don't particularly take much interest in shopping list profiles it just shows how shallow some people are. I'm not blessed in all areas but have generally had good sex over the years. And I put that down to being attentive in bed. And none of my best experiences have been on here.

love to be proved wrong one day as I'm sure there are a small group, single and couples who are amazing in the bed.

Don't be a crowd pleaser just be yourself."

We couples can afford to be as picky as we like on here to be fair. Also, we delete messages from single men who don't send pictures and who start messages with "hey how r u". We also get shitloads of messages and it'd be a full time job replying to every single bloke who messages us. Just trying to provide an opinion from the other side.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

love to be proved wrong one day as I'm sure there are a small group, single and couples who are amazing in the bed.

Don't be a crowd pleaser just be yourself."

'Shopping list of expectations' or just 'preferences'?! Why oh why would I have a meet with somebody who didn't tick all the boxes on that shopping list? Cos this isn't Instashag

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

See this is what I don't get. A lot of women on here have their 'shopping list of expectations' which is fair enough they are entitled to be picky same as anyone else. But not answering a message because it is short, or it has 'hey how are u' in the title or text speak? I mean, how is one supposed to approach people on here? What is the first thing you say to someone when you meet them in real life- hi, how are you? nice to meet you? Granted they are easily discardable pleasantries, but for god's sake does it really matter? What else are we supposed to say? Some women seem to expect guys to tailor messages specifically for them, write an essay then the majority of them don't read them anyway? Then when we try the old cut and paste method, they complain about that too! And the ones who demand face pics but don't have any pics on their profile? Most of them are fake probably anyway. We can't do right for wrong these days, there's always something not right.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sounds like a whole lot of excuses to me. Yes, how you introduce yourself really does matter to us. First impressions are very important to us for starters. What else are you supposed to say? Try saying whether you can accommodate, what you're into, try complimenting the female half of the couple, if you can travel, try being witty or amusing... you're not limited to writing "Hi, how r u today? xx" and if you *are* going to do that at least make sure you include pictures (you'd be surprised at how many blokes don't, we don't want to engage in endless messages only to find out you're an ugly fucker).

Also, what do you mean by "most of them are fake probably anyway"? If that's something you're worried about then tailor your searches so that only verified profiles come up when you search.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well I'm not currently being showered with offers these days, so if a new profile comes up I take my chances. My comments were with regards to someone complaining about what people say in the title, not the body of the message, and yes I try to communicate all those things you suggested, with a face pic. The number of new profiles that come up and then suddenly vanish though suggests to me a lot of fakes, I don't like giving out my photo to them but I do anyway because well, if someone I know finds out I am on here they so what- they are unlikely to ever mention it and at worst they will just talk about you behind your back to friends. Who cares. We all like sex.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

love hearing the "on high" side from couples

so you couples can be as picky as you like... good for you...

but here is the newsflash... the kicker

Popular guys can also be as picky as couples....

and I am not sure if all couples get that...

the popular guys aren't the ones complaining... they are already out there networking... going to clubs,parties,and socials....

they are probably deleting as much mail as you are.....

it is as much about you giving them a reason as to why they should meet you... as vice versa....

and the attitude of some couples plays into that lovely selection process.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

love hearing the "on high" side from couples

so you couples can be as picky as you like... good for you...

but here is the newsflash... the kicker

Popular guys can also be as picky as couples....

and I am not sure if all couples get that...

the popular guys aren't the ones complaining... they are already out there networking... going to clubs,parties,and socials....

they are probably deleting as much mail as you are.....

it is as much about you giving them a reason as to why they should meet you... as vice versa....

and the attitude of some couples plays into that lovely selection process....."

Well our main "thing" is couples, single guys come a distant second so it's certainly not about us giving them a reason to meet us, we never look for single men, they come to us. Call it an attitude or whatever, it's the way of the site and we'll never be short on (what my missus would call) attractive blokes messaging us because there's so many here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"see... the main issue for me is that the title of the thread almost seems like it is being used as a kop out to leave you blameless.....

you create your own fortune on here... it is not decided by others dependant on numbers.......

you have to find a way for you to stand out in the best way you seem fit...

do i think you are doing that... not even remotely close.....

time, patience, basic common sense..... if you feel that would you are doing now reflects the best of you... dont listen to a word anyone says....

but since you are here and asking for advice... I am guessing that is not the case...

sit down, pen, paper and actually think about what you are trying to attract and what you are saying about you... not just some fluff lines and buzz words you think will do the job....."

And then re-read it and make sure it still resembles you!

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By *r_G_SPMan over a year ago

Nice shoes

In my experience of being a guy on here for sometime is some days you are hot, sand others you are not!

You just have to be patient. There are a lot of guys on here so it does make it hard, but at the same time it is a great place to meet and stay in touch with like minded people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's not what you say, it's what you do. Try not to act like too many other single guys on here and spit your dummy at every knock back. Patience is the key, most of my meets(when I was single) came from initial knock backs and then conversation when they saw that I'm a decent polite(ish?) guy. There's also such a fine line between being self confident and coming over as a dick, And women like self confidence and hate a dick. Good luck mate and hold in there.

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By *RYBBWCouple over a year ago

Leeds.

As Mr Spock might say, the moronic idiocy of the many will outweigh the genuine humanity of the few.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Spock is asexual though so his comments are invalid.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not what you say, it's what you do. Try not to act like too many other single guys on here and spit your dummy at every knock back. Patience is the key, most of my meets(when I was single) came from initial knock backs and then conversation when they saw that I'm a decent polite(ish?) guy. There's also such a fine line between being self confident and coming over as a dick, And women like self confidence and hate a dick. Good luck mate and hold in there. "

Perfect

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By *RYBBWCouple over a year ago

Leeds.

"Spock is asexual though so his comments are invalid."

That is illogical.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Still, there are plenty on here judging you by just your profile, initial message and pics alone.

compare this to a club you walk in, acknowledge people as you make eye contact and have a conversation. Even if it results in no play everyone is friendly and welcoming. And not once has any one said hi i can accommodate fancy a fuck. No one is ignored and there is always 2 way communication.

I think the way a selection process on here is used on here is flawed, because everyone just judges a book by its cover and expectations are probably too high.

I on the other hand take everyone at face value on here and in clubs.

Never am I going to start a message on here with something like 'hi I'm single, I accom/travel and your wife has nice tits and I'd love to fuck her and hear her moan'

It doesn't happen elsewhere in the real world so why would I do it here.

Happy New Year

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Still, there are plenty on here judging you by just your profile, initial message and pics alone."

What else are they supposed to judge you on online?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Still, there are plenty on here judging you by just your profile, initial message and pics alone.

I think the way a selection process on here is used on here is flawed, because everyone just judges a book by its cover and expectations are probably too high.

I on the other hand take everyone at face value on here and in clubs.

Never am I going to start a message on here with something like 'hi I'm single, I accom/travel and your wife has nice tits and I'd love to fuck her and hear her moan'

It doesn't happen elsewhere in the real world so why would I do it here.

Happy New Year

we are not looking for another to move in with us.we just look for sex.so looks are of utmost importance.

we have been a club and had a man follow us,he was not our type in appearance so when he finally started asking us questions we we not interested in the same way as on here.he might have been a great bloke but that's not what we were looking for.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Still, there are plenty on here judging you by just your profile, initial message and pics alone.

What else are they supposed to judge you on online?"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" I'm looking for women and couples Have a great day.

We all are.... Best of luck

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Look at some single guys profiles and see how they wrote them , look at the verifications and see if it works

The odds are not stacked against you it's not the people who you write to fault you are not getting a. Meet it's yours for not putting as much effort in as the guys that are getting meets.

Most couples have the guy reading the first message , so a cock pic and saying I want to fuck you doesn't work.

If the woman is reading the mails, you have approx 3 seconds for her creepy weirdo radar to decide if your in that bracket

As always rewrite your profile, and remember some people can get meets and some don't ever meet

But most importantly remember in. Couples profiles the chances are the couple have already found their perfect partner "

Thank you and that is thoughtful and useful advise!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Still, there are plenty on here judging you by just your profile, initial message and pics alone.

What else are they supposed to judge you on online?

Absolutely True and I do know better than to be short. What I need to do is take it far more seriously and give this some thought. thank you for the advise!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I find it impossible but the important thing i like to is just be nice and friendly that way your different to the rest with the pestering from the start

It's hard but don't take it personally - we all struggle.

There's actually much more luck to be had on more vanilla sites

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm only on here to meet single guys. The problem with the op is he's a bit too far away!

I'm on here to meet single men but my problem is that most men are too far away

I know I can chose to live anywhere I want, but this is the place I was born and there are very few men in my age range within a 30 mile radius. So it's not plain sailing for all single women either

This is my problem too, well one of them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You've only been on 7 weeks, this isn't instashag! Never expect anything on this site or in a club, get out what you put in and you'll get nothing, put more effort in and you'll see the rewards

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Here is the same as in life in general if you want to get noticed you need to stand out so look for some usp which makes you more noticeable than others.

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