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"At the beginning, when joined Fab ,I i put in the leg work , spent a lot of time searching , reading profiles ,making a note of the ones that were looking for blokes in my age range ,were local ,and who I felt attracted too. Then I spent a lot of time constructing tailored messages to send. I did this for the first year of being a member ,all to no avail . Almost every message was deleted unread (which they are entitled to do ) . The odd one was read then deleted. So I eventually stopped wasting my time ,knowing the time I spent searching and messaging was pointless . I was fully aware when joining that men vastly outnumbered couples and single women, so came on here with my eyes open . The only thing that has surprised me in my year and a half on here is how only a handful of single blokes have any success on here . I read the forums daily ,and tend to click on profiles of single blokes to see if they are having any success ,and 99% are like me, with zero meet verifications. Granted ,there are a few single blokes on here who have been very successful ,and I'm happy for them , but it seems the vast majority of us are flogging a dead horse . I stopped sending messages because you can only keep banging your head against a brick wall for so long before you realise nothing is ever going to change. Why keep doing the same thing (sending messages ) ,and getting the same result everytime .? There cones a point where the penny drops ,and you realise if messaging people hasn't worked after months ,then it's never going to work ,and maybe its time to accept that for 99%of us single blokes, will never be in the 1% who do have success on here . When you cannot generate any interest through messaging ,you have very few other tools available . Yes , you can post a meet ,view meets posted by others, and post on the forums, but that's all you have . I have also posted threads asking for profile advice ,and tweaked my profile after reading the advice given ,but there is only so much you can do with your profile bio and photos. My view is ,the longer you are on this site, the more you learn about what sort of single blokes will get meets ,and which ones of us never will. In my opinion Fab offers only Three ways of connecting with other people ,three ways of trying to meet others. 1/ Sending Messages . 2/ Posting a meet . 3/ Searching meets posted by others. Now my use of Fab is limited to just reading and posting on the forums ,and I've learned to stop chasing the impossible meet . I just want to wish all of you lucky enough to actually have meets , have fun and enjoy . " I'm not going to dress this up because I know you have been told this before. These long tedious posts are a true dose of bromide to the libido of the very women you are hoping to attract. | |||
"We rarely reply to these threads but here we are.. Firstly you need to treat swinging as a scene and within that scene is a great community... Fab is just a small tool used by that community.. Alot of this 1% you talk about will attend socials in their area to actually meet people face to face and make contacts.. they put the leg work in just like couples and single fems do.. go to one and be yourself and chat to people.. if you think fab is your only way into this community then you'll struggle. I hope you take this as a constructive contribution to your thread."  | |||
"Hey, Please take this as being a constructive comment but as soon as I saw your post, I knew it would be one complaining over a lack of meets etc. Honestly, it isn't appealing and I don't think it helps you any. Just my opinion, feel free to ignore it or disagree. MrsAbz " yes I thought dame when I saw who the OP was without reading I knew what it would be about..... it's known to be an unappealing rep | |||
"Hey, Please take this as being a constructive comment but as soon as I saw your post, I knew it would be one complaining over a lack of meets etc. Honestly, it isn't appealing and I don't think it helps you any. Just my opinion, feel free to ignore it or disagree. MrsAbz yes I thought same when I saw who the OP was without reading I knew what it would be about..... it's known to be an unappealing rep" same not dame | |||
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"At the beginning, when joined Fab ,I i put in the leg work , spent a lot of time searching , reading profiles ,making a note of the ones that were looking for blokes in my age range ,were local ,and who I felt attracted too. Then I spent a lot of time constructing tailored messages to send. I did this for the first year of being a member ,all to no avail . Almost every message was deleted unread (which they are entitled to do ) . The odd one was read then deleted. So I eventually stopped wasting my time ,knowing the time I spent searching and messaging was pointless . I was fully aware when joining that men vastly outnumbered couples and single women, so came on here with my eyes open . The only thing that has surprised me in my year and a half on here is how only a handful of single blokes have any success on here . I read the forums daily ,and tend to click on profiles of single blokes to see if they are having any success ,and 99% are like me, with zero meet verifications. Granted ,there are a few single blokes on here who have been very successful ,and I'm happy for them , but it seems the vast majority of us are flogging a dead horse . I stopped sending messages because you can only keep banging your head against a brick wall for so long before you realise nothing is ever going to change. Why keep doing the same thing (sending messages ) ,and getting the same result everytime .? There cones a point where the penny drops ,and you realise if messaging people hasn't worked after months ,then it's never going to work ,and maybe its time to accept that for 99%of us single blokes, will never be in the 1% who do have success on here . When you cannot generate any interest through messaging ,you have very few other tools available . Yes , you can post a meet ,view meets posted by others, and post on the forums, but that's all you have . I have also posted threads asking for profile advice ,and tweaked my profile after reading the advice given ,but there is only so much you can do with your profile bio and photos. My view is ,the longer you are on this site, the more you learn about what sort of single blokes will get meets ,and which ones of us never will. In my opinion Fab offers only Three ways of connecting with other people ,three ways of trying to meet others. 1/ Sending Messages . 2/ Posting a meet . 3/ Searching meets posted by others. Now my use of Fab is limited to just reading and posting on the forums ,and I've learned to stop chasing the impossible meet . I just want to wish all of you lucky enough to actually have meets , have fun and enjoy . " My advice is simple you seem to have accepted the world of FAB is not a place for you. If that is so in the most polite term, just open your front door, walk through it and go places where people mingle, and speak to them. I have been to your city my employer did have a large office there, and I noticed it is a hot bed for what you are looking for. | |||
"At the beginning, when joined Fab ,I i put in the leg work , spent a lot of time searching , reading profiles ,making a note of the ones that were looking for blokes in my age range ,were local ,and who I felt attracted too. Then I spent a lot of time constructing tailored messages to send. I did this for the first year of being a member ,all to no avail . Almost every message was deleted unread (which they are entitled to do ) . The odd one was read then deleted. So I eventually stopped wasting my time ,knowing the time I spent searching and messaging was pointless . I was fully aware when joining that men vastly outnumbered couples and single women, so came on here with my eyes open . The only thing that has surprised me in my year and a half on here is how only a handful of single blokes have any success on here . I read the forums daily ,and tend to click on profiles of single blokes to see if they are having any success ,and 99% are like me, with zero meet verifications. Granted ,there are a few single blokes on here who have been very successful ,and I'm happy for them , but it seems the vast majority of us are flogging a dead horse . I stopped sending messages because you can only keep banging your head against a brick wall for so long before you realise nothing is ever going to change. Why keep doing the same thing (sending messages ) ,and getting the same result everytime .? There cones a point where the penny drops ,and you realise if messaging people hasn't worked after months ,then it's never going to work ,and maybe its time to accept that for 99%of us single blokes, will never be in the 1% who do have success on here . When you cannot generate any interest through messaging ,you have very few other tools available . Yes , you can post a meet ,view meets posted by others, and post on the forums, but that's all you have . I have also posted threads asking for profile advice ,and tweaked my profile after reading the advice given ,but there is only so much you can do with your profile bio and photos. My view is ,the longer you are on this site, the more you learn about what sort of single blokes will get meets ,and which ones of us never will. In my opinion Fab offers only Three ways of connecting with other people ,three ways of trying to meet others. 1/ Sending Messages . 2/ Posting a meet . 3/ Searching meets posted by others. Now my use of Fab is limited to just reading and posting on the forums ,and I've learned to stop chasing the impossible meet . I just want to wish all of you lucky enough to actually have meets , have fun and enjoy . " As has been pointed out before, many times, you're not taking advantage of every avenue Fab has to offer. You really do get out what you put in. Simply, you're not putting in enough effort. I get that clubs and group socials aren't for you. So expect your results to be proportionate to your effort. | |||
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"I think people come to fab with unrealistic expectations There is no magic formula, and life is hard for single men on fab because the power dynamics of the real world are flipped on their head; women have all the power on fab, they get to be choosy because there are hundreds of men who want to fuck them. Mr DD" Whilst I absolutely agree with your post, I think even if the options were limited, I'd still be choosy! I'd rather just play myself than play with someone I wasn't into just because it was all that was on offer. MrsAbz | |||
" Why keep doing the same thing (sending messages ) ,and getting the same result everytime? " Fair question here, but I think you need to look deeper into that and ask you have been doing? Why have you chosen that you won't consider any other routes except the use of fab to give you a foot in the door of a social based community that happens outside the home? " When you cannot generate any interest through messaging ,you have very few other tools available . Yes , you can post a meet ,view meets posted by others, and post on the forums, but that's all you have. " Thats not actually all you have, that's what you've chosen to limit yourself to. " In my opinion Fab offers only Three ways of connecting with other people ,three ways of trying to meet others. 1/ Sending Messages . 2/ Posting a meet . 3/ Searching meets posted by others. Now my use of Fab is limited to just reading and posting on the forums ,and I've learned to stop chasing the impossible meet . " Again, if that's all you've chosen to limit yourself with, that's a shame. But this is also entirely on you. I don't really understand what you expected you'd get out of a community, that as I said, is based on the social side of life. You have to go outside and go where the people are who are interested in this lifestyle. There is also the side that if you want to look like an attractive candidate to others on fab, it's best to be positive. That little green arrow gives alot of clues away. I don't personally know ome person who finds negativity, moaning and blaming others for their own actions (or lack of) appealing. Ms  | |||
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"The sad thing is that the Ops profile is really good. " Agreed, since he removed "average" being every other word and stopped going on about his wobbly bits, changed the negative tone etc its far better to read. | |||
"I think people come to fab with unrealistic expectations There is no magic formula, and life is hard for single men on fab because the power dynamics of the real world are flipped on their head; women have all the power on fab, they get to be choosy because there are hundreds of men who want to fuck them. Mr DD Whilst I absolutely agree with your post, I think even if the options were limited, I'd still be choosy! I'd rather just play myself than play with someone I wasn't into just because it was all that was on offer. MrsAbz " Oh absolutely, we use fab as a very rare addition to our sex lives, if we don’t find someone who floats our boat to have fun with on here then we’ll have amazing sex with each other. We get questions from single men like “how will you know if I’m not what you want if you don’t try with me?” and the answer is inevitably that the man hasn’t done anything to think there’s a chance they’ll make sex better than we have together. Like you, we’re happy to not meet at all if there’s not someone we think will add something. Perhaps that’s the problem with single men on fab, this is their sex life? | |||
"The sad thing is that the Ops profile is really good. Agreed, since he removed "average" being every other word and stopped going on about his wobbly bits, changed the negative tone etc its far better to read. " Yes but how do you think his messages read before and would not if he sent them? Negative I would guess. And probably negative in real life if met. Good example of how getting profile advice and can lead to a result that is misleading. Sorry if I’m being negative but Dave come on try a bit of positivity and fun. You say you are here just for Forum so join in and be fun at times. Pretty much all you use Forum for is to bask in your negativity. How much quitting the Forum negative stuff and being fun here? You never know you might even get a lady messaging you from Forum. | |||
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"I think people come to fab with unrealistic expectations There is no magic formula, and life is hard for single men on fab because the power dynamics of the real world are flipped on their head; women have all the power on fab, they get to be choosy because there are hundreds of men who want to fuck them. Mr DD Whilst I absolutely agree with your post, I think even if the options were limited, I'd still be choosy! I'd rather just play myself than play with someone I wasn't into just because it was all that was on offer. MrsAbz Oh absolutely, we use fab as a very rare addition to our sex lives, if we don’t find someone who floats our boat to have fun with on here then we’ll have amazing sex with each other. We get questions from single men like “how will you know if I’m not what you want if you don’t try with me?” and the answer is inevitably that the man hasn’t done anything to think there’s a chance they’ll make sex better than we have together. Like you, we’re happy to not meet at all if there’s not someone we think will add something. Perhaps that’s the problem with single men on fab, this is their sex life?" Prehaps that is the case for single men but I'd assume that they would try dating apps/real life rather than solely rely on here for meeting someone. Surely you would widen the pool of places to meet someone? I just find it the oddest mentality to think you'd just have sex with any old random who sent a message to you. MrsAbz | |||
"The sad thing is that the Ops profile is really good. Agreed, since he removed "average" being every other word and stopped going on about his wobbly bits, changed the negative tone etc its far better to read. Yes but how do you think his messages read before and would not if he sent them? Negative I would guess. And probably negative in real life if met. Good example of how getting profile advice and can lead to a result that is misleading. Sorry if I’m being negative but Dave come on try a bit of positivity and fun. You say you are here just for Forum so join in and be fun at times. Pretty much all you use Forum for is to bask in your negativity. How much quitting the Forum negative stuff and being fun here? You never know you might even get a lady messaging you from Forum. " No I do agree with you and can honestly say, during the short time we've been on fab so far, I have quickly learnt that seeing the OPs name on a forum post or comment will mean some form of negativity either towards other men or himself. If I saw his name in my inbox, I would honestly delete without reading based on what I've seen in the forums as this point because I would expect the same tone in his message | |||
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"I think people come to fab with unrealistic expectations There is no magic formula, and life is hard for single men on fab because the power dynamics of the real world are flipped on their head; women have all the power on fab, they get to be choosy because there are hundreds of men who want to fuck them. Mr DD Whilst I absolutely agree with your post, I think even if the options were limited, I'd still be choosy! I'd rather just play myself than play with someone I wasn't into just because it was all that was on offer. MrsAbz Oh absolutely, we use fab as a very rare addition to our sex lives, if we don’t find someone who floats our boat to have fun with on here then we’ll have amazing sex with each other. We get questions from single men like “how will you know if I’m not what you want if you don’t try with me?” and the answer is inevitably that the man hasn’t done anything to think there’s a chance they’ll make sex better than we have together. Like you, we’re happy to not meet at all if there’s not someone we think will add something. Perhaps that’s the problem with single men on fab, this is their sex life? Prehaps that is the case for single men but I'd assume that they would try dating apps/real life rather than solely rely on here for meeting someone. Surely you would widen the pool of places to meet someone? I just find it the oddest mentality to think you'd just have sex with any old random who sent a message to you. MrsAbz " Who’s to say they fair any better anywhere else though? I wonder if they join fab as a last resort and when they don’t get the results they hoped for they get annoyed? Mr DD | |||
"I think people come to fab with unrealistic expectations There is no magic formula, and life is hard for single men on fab because the power dynamics of the real world are flipped on their head; women have all the power on fab, they get to be choosy because there are hundreds of men who want to fuck them. Mr DD Whilst I absolutely agree with your post, I think even if the options were limited, I'd still be choosy! I'd rather just play myself than play with someone I wasn't into just because it was all that was on offer. MrsAbz Oh absolutely, we use fab as a very rare addition to our sex lives, if we don’t find someone who floats our boat to have fun with on here then we’ll have amazing sex with each other. We get questions from single men like “how will you know if I’m not what you want if you don’t try with me?” and the answer is inevitably that the man hasn’t done anything to think there’s a chance they’ll make sex better than we have together. Like you, we’re happy to not meet at all if there’s not someone we think will add something. Perhaps that’s the problem with single men on fab, this is their sex life? Prehaps that is the case for single men but I'd assume that they would try dating apps/real life rather than solely rely on here for meeting someone. Surely you would widen the pool of places to meet someone? I just find it the oddest mentality to think you'd just have sex with any old random who sent a message to you. MrsAbz Who’s to say they fair any better anywhere else though? I wonder if they join fab as a last resort and when they don’t get the results they hoped for they get annoyed? Mr DD" Maybe that is the case for them, we shall never know I guess. MrsAbz | |||
"The sad thing is that the Ops profile is really good. Agreed, since he removed "average" being every other word and stopped going on about his wobbly bits, changed the negative tone etc its far better to read. Yes but how do you think his messages read before and would not if he sent them? Negative I would guess. And probably negative in real life if met. Good example of how getting profile advice and can lead to a result that is misleading. Sorry if I’m being negative but Dave come on try a bit of positivity and fun. You say you are here just for Forum so join in and be fun at times. Pretty much all you use Forum for is to bask in your negativity. How much quitting the Forum negative stuff and being fun here? You never know you might even get a lady messaging you from Forum. No I do agree with you and can honestly say, during the short time we've been on fab so far, I have quickly learnt that seeing the OPs name on a forum post or comment will mean some form of negativity either towards other men or himself. If I saw his name in my inbox, I would honestly delete without reading based on what I've seen in the forums as this point because I would expect the same tone in his message" Yep and I suspect many others would feel the same. Come on Dave spread some fun, joy and positivity on Forum. Use it as a tool to help you. It is having the opposite effect at the moment unless all you want is attention good or bad. | |||
"The sad thing is that the Ops profile is really good. " Yes, I agree OP put some effort in his profile. However, all the posts that he has created on the forum, as well as his replies to posts others created on the forum, all have a very negative feel to them, the "woe is me" type. It's very much not attractive. | |||
"The sad thing is that the Ops profile is really good. " Thank you ,I really appreciate that. | |||
"And maybe women don't find you attractive " I agree a lot of women wont , and that's fine ,as not everyone is attracted to everyone they see. | |||
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"And maybe women don't find you attractive I agree a lot of women wont , and that's fine ,as not everyone is attracted to everyone they see. " So. I’m confused. You understand that you won’t find everyone attractive and that not all of the people you find attractive will find you attractive. You understand that of the people you find attractive who also find you attractive, the fact that you won’t go to clubs will put some people off and the fact that you want women to travel to you will put others off. That’s ok. You only need one. But. Why are you complaining, if you understand that you’re waiting for lightning? It’s going to take as long as it takes, so enjoy the journey. | |||
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"At the beginning, when joined Fab ,I i put in the leg work , spent a lot of time searching , reading profiles ,making a note of the ones that were looking for blokes in my age range ,were local ,and who I felt attracted too. Then I spent a lot of time constructing tailored messages to send. I did this for the first year of being a member ,all to no avail . Almost every message was deleted unread (which they are entitled to do ) . The odd one was read then deleted. So I eventually stopped wasting my time ,knowing the time I spent searching and messaging was pointless . I was fully aware when joining that men vastly outnumbered couples and single women, so came on here with my eyes open . The only thing that has surprised me in my year and a half on here is how only a handful of single blokes have any success on here . I read the forums daily ,and tend to click on profiles of single blokes to see if they are having any success ,and 99% are like me, with zero meet verifications. Granted ,there are a few single blokes on here who have been very successful ,and I'm happy for them , but it seems the vast majority of us are flogging a dead horse . I stopped sending messages because you can only keep banging your head against a brick wall for so long before you realise nothing is ever going to change. Why keep doing the same thing (sending messages ) ,and getting the same result everytime .? There cones a point where the penny drops ,and you realise if messaging people hasn't worked after months ,then it's never going to work ,and maybe its time to accept that for 99%of us single blokes, will never be in the 1% who do have success on here . When you cannot generate any interest through messaging ,you have very few other tools available . Yes , you can post a meet ,view meets posted by others, and post on the forums, but that's all you have . I have also posted threads asking for profile advice ,and tweaked my profile after reading the advice given ,but there is only so much you can do with your profile bio and photos. My view is ,the longer you are on this site, the more you learn about what sort of single blokes will get meets ,and which ones of us never will. In my opinion Fab offers only Three ways of connecting with other people ,three ways of trying to meet others. 1/ Sending Messages . 2/ Posting a meet . 3/ Searching meets posted by others. Now my use of Fab is limited to just reading and posting on the forums ,and I've learned to stop chasing the impossible meet . I just want to wish all of you lucky enough to actually have meets , have fun and enjoy . " Have to say that is about exactly my experience and conclusions too. I also don't flog a dead horse on here anymore. I guess I'll reply a few times then just bin it. Rewritten my profile countless times and stand by my ettiqette and manner as I have tried being all sorts to eek out that fun reply to no avail. You are right about that 1pc of males, 50pc of them basically fake profiles with engineered and harvested pictures just to get the chat more regular but they are kidding no one .. Anyway use the other dating apps to meet women. There's a ton load more attractive and sexy ladies on there into plenty kinky activities once you get conversation going in my experience. This site is really for swinging couples. | |||
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"At the beginning, when joined Fab ,I i put in the leg work , spent a lot of time searching , reading profiles ,making a note of the ones that were looking for blokes in my age range ,were local ,and who I felt attracted too. Then I spent a lot of time constructing tailored messages to send. I did this for the first year of being a member ,all to no avail . Almost every message was deleted unread (which they are entitled to do ) . The odd one was read then deleted. So I eventually stopped wasting my time ,knowing the time I spent searching and messaging was pointless . I was fully aware when joining that men vastly outnumbered couples and single women, so came on here with my eyes open . The only thing that has surprised me in my year and a half on here is how only a handful of single blokes have any success on here . I read the forums daily ,and tend to click on profiles of single blokes to see if they are having any success ,and 99% are like me, with zero meet verifications. Granted ,there are a few single blokes on here who have been very successful ,and I'm happy for them , but it seems the vast majority of us are flogging a dead horse . I stopped sending messages because you can only keep banging your head against a brick wall for so long before you realise nothing is ever going to change. Why keep doing the same thing (sending messages ) ,and getting the same result everytime .? There cones a point where the penny drops ,and you realise if messaging people hasn't worked after months ,then it's never going to work ,and maybe its time to accept that for 99%of us single blokes, will never be in the 1% who do have success on here . When you cannot generate any interest through messaging ,you have very few other tools available . Yes , you can post a meet ,view meets posted by others, and post on the forums, but that's all you have . I have also posted threads asking for profile advice ,and tweaked my profile after reading the advice given ,but there is only so much you can do with your profile bio and photos. My view is ,the longer you are on this site, the more you learn about what sort of single blokes will get meets ,and which ones of us never will. In my opinion Fab offers only Three ways of connecting with other people ,three ways of trying to meet others. 1/ Sending Messages . 2/ Posting a meet . 3/ Searching meets posted by others. Now my use of Fab is limited to just reading and posting on the forums ,and I've learned to stop chasing the impossible meet . I just want to wish all of you lucky enough to actually have meets , have fun and enjoy . Have to say that is about exactly my experience and conclusions too. I also don't flog a dead horse on here anymore. I guess I'll reply a few times then just bin it. Rewritten my profile countless times and stand by my ettiqette and manner as I have tried being all sorts to eek out that fun reply to no avail. You are right about that 1pc of males, 50pc of them basically fake profiles with engineered and harvested pictures just to get the chat more regular but they are kidding no one .. Anyway use the other dating apps to meet women. There's a ton load more attractive and sexy ladies on there into plenty kinky activities once you get conversation going in my experience. This site is really for swinging couples. " I couldn't disagree more with 95% of this if I tried. Sooooo many couples looking for single guys. 50% of male profiles are fake?  | |||
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"If something affected me negatively I would stop doing it. It’s really unhealthy to take a lack of meets on a swinging site so seriously. To allow it to seep into every post you make. I use this place for dicking around in the forums and having the odd bit of fun based around where I am in life at the time. If the fun stops I will stop and move onto something else. " I think Dave just likes to moan at this point! | |||
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"We’ve met guys from Fab in the past that weren’t verified so your assumption is wrong. One thing they all had in common though was a positive and fun outlook. " Precisely. All of the OP's contribution to the forum have all been negative and on a downer. He's been told several times that this will only serve to put more people off him and that nobody on fab will give him a meet out of sympathy. Also, if your current strategy isn't working, change it. Was it not Einstein who once said that only a fool does the same thing over and over again and expects different results? Simply put though, if you really don't think fab is for you, then why are you still here? | |||
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"Stick on some heels and lippy. Worked for me! " Didn't work for me.  | |||
"And maybe women don't find you attractive I agree a lot of women wont , and that's fine ,as not everyone is attracted to everyone they see. So. I’m confused. You understand that you won’t find everyone attractive and that not all of the people you find attractive will find you attractive. You understand that of the people you find attractive who also find you attractive, the fact that you won’t go to clubs will put some people off and the fact that you want women to travel to you will put others off. That’s ok. You only need one. But. Why are you complaining, if you understand that you’re waiting for lightning? It’s going to take as long as it takes, so enjoy the journey. " Hang in there OP. The women on this site are dreamboats. Scented like flowers and kinder than the softest bog roll. | |||
"We rarely reply to these threads but here we are.. Firstly you need to treat swinging as a scene and within that scene is a great community... Fab is just a small tool used by that community.. Alot of this 1% you talk about will attend socials in their area to actually meet people face to face and make contacts.. they put the leg work in just like couples and single fems do.. go to one and be yourself and chat to people.. if you think fab is your only way into this community then you'll struggle. I hope you take this as a constructive contribution to your thread." A very nicely put piece of constructive criticism indeed. It very much sums up what I was tempted to write yet in a condensed and 'to the point'way. And it is constructive especially as Fab is a tool, one of many and very much a starting point. If viewed as such, any disappointment is avoided. | |||
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"And maybe women don't find you attractive I agree a lot of women wont , and that's fine ,as not everyone is attracted to everyone they see. So. I’m confused. You understand that you won’t find everyone attractive and that not all of the people you find attractive will find you attractive. You understand that of the people you find attractive who also find you attractive, the fact that you won’t go to clubs will put some people off and the fact that you want women to travel to you will put others off. That’s ok. You only need one. But. Why are you complaining, if you understand that you’re waiting for lightning? It’s going to take as long as it takes, so enjoy the journey. Hang in there OP. The women on this site are dreamboats. Scented like flowers and kinder than the softest bog roll. "Well I've been cleaning the house so I smell of zoflora (the purple kind) and Im not feeling overly kind after picking up numerous sodding socks stuffed in the side of the sofa. MrsAbz | |||
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"At the beginning, when joined Fab ,I i put in the leg work , spent a lot of time searching , reading profiles ,making a note of the ones that were looking for blokes in my age range ,were local ,and who I felt attracted too. Then I spent a lot of time constructing tailored messages to send. I did this for the first year of being a member ,all to no avail . Almost every message was deleted unread (which they are entitled to do ) . The odd one was read then deleted. So I eventually stopped wasting my time ,knowing the time I spent searching and messaging was pointless . I was fully aware when joining that men vastly outnumbered couples and single women, so came on here with my eyes open . The only thing that has surprised me in my year and a half on here is how only a handful of single blokes have any success on here . I read the forums daily ,and tend to click on profiles of single blokes to see if they are having any success ,and 99% are like me, with zero meet verifications. Granted ,there are a few single blokes on here who have been very successful ,and I'm happy for them , but it seems the vast majority of us are flogging a dead horse . I stopped sending messages because you can only keep banging your head against a brick wall for so long before you realise nothing is ever going to change. Why keep doing the same thing (sending messages ) ,and getting the same result everytime .? There cones a point where the penny drops ,and you realise if messaging people hasn't worked after months ,then it's never going to work ,and maybe its time to accept that for 99%of us single blokes, will never be in the 1% who do have success on here . When you cannot generate any interest through messaging ,you have very few other tools available . Yes , you can post a meet ,view meets posted by others, and post on the forums, but that's all you have . I have also posted threads asking for profile advice ,and tweaked my profile after reading the advice given ,but there is only so much you can do with your profile bio and photos. My view is ,the longer you are on this site, the more you learn about what sort of single blokes will get meets ,and which ones of us never will. In my opinion Fab offers only Three ways of connecting with other people ,three ways of trying to meet others. 1/ Sending Messages . 2/ Posting a meet . 3/ Searching meets posted by others. Now my use of Fab is limited to just reading and posting on the forums ,and I've learned to stop chasing the impossible meet . I just want to wish all of you lucky enough to actually have meets , have fun and enjoy . My advice is simple you seem to have accepted the world of FAB is not a place for you. If that is so in the most polite term, just open your front door, walk through it and go places where people mingle, and speak to them. I have been to your city my employer did have a large office there, and I noticed it is a hot bed for what you are looking for." Again. Constructive advice. The only thing being, the OP doesn't seem keen or rather the kind of person inclined to visit a social. He makes quite clear on his rather witty profile. I say quite witty, my opinion and as such doesn't have to appeal to everyone....it is, even if it isn't your style, very comprehensive and doesn't lack effort. Maybe, just maybe it is too honest in highlighting he is a more mediocre car (he quite wittingly describes himself in a type of second hand car advert style). Honesty is something I really value but it also would go a long way to point out something personal - really more unique that stands out from others. This can be a daunting challenge especially if you have already resigned yourself to being no differet to Joe next door. Maybe get a friend to describe you. And yes, friends are biased, but that's the beauty of it in so far as the like you for you're unique attributes....which is exactly why they are your friends and not necessarily Joe's next door. The thing really is that we truly are unique and there will be matches out there, often the downfall is they are miles away. Sod's law will have it that there are matches in your area and they aren't on Fab. What's the use in Fab then....it's simply another tool that, when all aligns can be great and even if meets aren't happening, don't be knocked back.. there are so many reasons. Take a filter that stops you from messaging as your age is two years out yet all else seems a match in heaven? Again, sods law Maybe a tailor-made match just left as she was pestered too much by "do you wanna fuck" messages and she suddenly tries again in a years time !! | |||
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"At the beginning, when joined Fab ,I i put in the leg work , spent a lot of time searching , reading profiles ,making a note of the ones that were looking for blokes in my age range ,were local ,and who I felt attracted too. Then I spent a lot of time constructing tailored messages to send. I did this for the first year of being a member ,all to no avail . Almost every message was deleted unread (which they are entitled to do ) . The odd one was read then deleted. So I eventually stopped wasting my time ,knowing the time I spent searching and messaging was pointless . I was fully aware when joining that men vastly outnumbered couples and single women, so came on here with my eyes open . The only thing that has surprised me in my year and a half on here is how only a handful of single blokes have any success on here . I read the forums daily ,and tend to click on profiles of single blokes to see if they are having any success ,and 99% are like me, with zero meet verifications. Granted ,there are a few single blokes on here who have been very successful ,and I'm happy for them , but it seems the vast majority of us are flogging a dead horse . I stopped sending messages because you can only keep banging your head against a brick wall for so long before you realise nothing is ever going to change. Why keep doing the same thing (sending messages ) ,and getting the same result everytime .? There cones a point where the penny drops ,and you realise if messaging people hasn't worked after months ,then it's never going to work ,and maybe its time to accept that for 99%of us single blokes, will never be in the 1% who do have success on here . When you cannot generate any interest through messaging ,you have very few other tools available . Yes , you can post a meet ,view meets posted by others, and post on the forums, but that's all you have . I have also posted threads asking for profile advice ,and tweaked my profile after reading the advice given ,but there is only so much you can do with your profile bio and photos. My view is ,the longer you are on this site, the more you learn about what sort of single blokes will get meets ,and which ones of us never will. In my opinion Fab offers only Three ways of connecting with other people ,three ways of trying to meet others. 1/ Sending Messages . 2/ Posting a meet . 3/ Searching meets posted by others. Now my use of Fab is limited to just reading and posting on the forums ,and I've learned to stop chasing the impossible meet . I just want to wish all of you lucky enough to actually have meets , have fun and enjoy . " Go to a club on a single guys night and use fab for keeping in touch with people and finding events to attend. | |||
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"Stick on some heels and lippy. Worked for me! " Not sure what colour lippt. Possibly needs to match heels but where to get 'em in size 14!! .. (THIS WAS NOT A SERIOUS QUESTION, LOL X )  | |||
"And maybe women don't find you attractive I agree a lot of women wont , and that's fine ,as not everyone is attracted to everyone they see. So. I’m confused. You understand that you won’t find everyone attractive and that not all of the people you find attractive will find you attractive. You understand that of the people you find attractive who also find you attractive, the fact that you won’t go to clubs will put some people off and the fact that you want women to travel to you will put others off. That’s ok. You only need one. But. Why are you complaining, if you understand that you’re waiting for lightning? It’s going to take as long as it takes, so enjoy the journey. Hang in there OP. The women on this site are dreamboats. Scented like flowers and kinder than the softest bog roll.
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"After months of this all you people offering constructive advice are wasting your time. At one point I tried, then I thought Dave might be winding us up and trolling us. Now I think he just enjoys getting attention even negative attention. Whenever one of his threads goes quiet and slips down the list after a few days another one appears to start off the whole discussion again. " Women post pics for attention, men can post threads. Any attention is better than nothing. | |||
"Stick on some heels and lippy. Worked for me! Didn't work for me. "Can't be a judge of that, not much a "not friend" can access on your profile! You'll have to befriend us all I guess, lol x | |||
"And maybe women don't find you attractive I agree a lot of women wont , and that's fine ,as not everyone is attracted to everyone they see. So. I’m confused. You understand that you won’t find everyone attractive and that not all of the people you find attractive will find you attractive. You understand that of the people you find attractive who also find you attractive, the fact that you won’t go to clubs will put some people off and the fact that you want women to travel to you will put others off. That’s ok. You only need one. But. Why are you complaining, if you understand that you’re waiting for lightning? It’s going to take as long as it takes, so enjoy the journey. Hang in there OP. The women on this site are dreamboats. Scented like flowers and kinder than the softest bog roll. "Hang on, bog roll is scented too! Personally, I prefer to wipe my dick on the curtains, if they aren't too high....but I won't elaborate. That's for a new thread !  | |||
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"After months of this all you people offering constructive advice are wasting your time. At one point I tried, then I thought Dave might be winding us up and trolling us. Now I think he just enjoys getting attention even negative attention. Whenever one of his threads goes quiet and slips down the list after a few days another one appears to start off the whole discussion again. " I do take on advice ,and after reading posts and advice in this thread I have done a profile rewrite, which hopefully shows my laid back humorous personality. And I will be doing my regular photo updates this week . But ,like every single member on here , I have things that I am not interested in ,and top of that list are clubs and large organised socials. I'm not against all socials ,in fact I would love a one on one social in a public place for a chat and a coffee. A bit of company for a coffee social would be amazing . Due to the nature of my business I don't have much of a social life, due to the bizarre hours I sometimes work ,and the fact I'm self employed, and I'm on call a lot of the time . In fact I got called out last night at 10pm for a boarding up job ,but had to stand around waiting until the police gave me the go ahead to do my job . | |||
"After months of this all you people offering constructive advice are wasting your time. At one point I tried, then I thought Dave might be winding us up and trolling us. Now I think he just enjoys getting attention even negative attention. Whenever one of his threads goes quiet and slips down the list after a few days another one appears to start off the whole discussion again. I do take on advice ,and after reading posts and advice in this thread I have done a profile rewrite, which hopefully shows my laid back humorous personality. And I will be doing my regular photo updates this week . But ,like every single member on here , I have things that I am not interested in ,and top of that list are clubs and large organised socials. I'm not against all socials ,in fact I would love a one on one social in a public place for a chat and a coffee. A bit of company for a coffee social would be amazing . Due to the nature of my business I don't have much of a social life, due to the bizarre hours I sometimes work ,and the fact I'm self employed, and I'm on call a lot of the time . In fact I got called out last night at 10pm for a boarding up job ,but had to stand around waiting until the police gave me the go ahead to do my job . " Looks good! If it was me I'd hide the veri summary. I'm rooting for you to meet someone. | |||
"when will guys realize the scene is a lifestyle to most not free sex on a plate" The scene is a lifestyle but I would say 90% of users are not here for the scene but the free sex
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"After months of this all you people offering constructive advice are wasting your time. At one point I tried, then I thought Dave might be winding us up and trolling us. Now I think he just enjoys getting attention even negative attention. Whenever one of his threads goes quiet and slips down the list after a few days another one appears to start off the whole discussion again. I do take on advice ,and after reading posts and advice in this thread I have done a profile rewrite, which hopefully shows my laid back humorous personality. And I will be doing my regular photo updates this week . But ,like every single member on here , I have things that I am not interested in ,and top of that list are clubs and large organised socials. I'm not against all socials ,in fact I would love a one on one social in a public place for a chat and a coffee. A bit of company for a coffee social would be amazing . Due to the nature of my business I don't have much of a social life, due to the bizarre hours I sometimes work ,and the fact I'm self employed, and I'm on call a lot of the time . In fact I got called out last night at 10pm for a boarding up job ,but had to stand around waiting until the police gave me the go ahead to do my job . " Ok, so it's good that you know what you aren't that keen on...but that will limit your options. Surely you can push past that if your ultimate goal could be reached with a bit of networking though? As others have pointed out, there is no magic formula to profiles, pics, or messaging. Yes, there are a very small number of guys who tend to stand out from the crowd due to their pics or other attributes, but the vast majority are normal, average guys, who fade into the crowd. It all comes down to getting out there and being "seen on the scene". If you really cant bring yourself to get out and mingle, then you have to accept that nothing is going to change, and maybe move on. | |||
"After months of this all you people offering constructive advice are wasting your time. At one point I tried, then I thought Dave might be winding us up and trolling us. Now I think he just enjoys getting attention even negative attention. Whenever one of his threads goes quiet and slips down the list after a few days another one appears to start off the whole discussion again. I do take on advice ,and after reading posts and advice in this thread I have done a profile rewrite, which hopefully shows my laid back humorous personality. And I will be doing my regular photo updates this week . But ,like every single member on here , I have things that I am not interested in ,and top of that list are clubs and large organised socials. I'm not against all socials ,in fact I would love a one on one social in a public place for a chat and a coffee. A bit of company for a coffee social would be amazing . Due to the nature of my business I don't have much of a social life, due to the bizarre hours I sometimes work ,and the fact I'm self employed, and I'm on call a lot of the time . In fact I got called out last night at 10pm for a boarding up job ,but had to stand around waiting until the police gave me the go ahead to do my job . " Groups socials and clubs are not the only advice you've been given. The biggest piece of advice you've been given countless time is to quit the negative attitude and woe is me attitude but you seem to be getting worse. Unless you do that there is nothing anybody can do for you here as it will seep into any communications you have with anybody and anybody seeing Forum will be turned off as many have told you. I know it is not easy to ditch a negative mindset but there isn't much sign of you trying. Why did you start this thread after countless other similar ones and lots of similar comments on other threads? You should green arrow yourself and check your comments. I've said if before but set yourself a challenge - post nothing negative for a week, join in on threads posting something fun and positive, perhaps start a positive thread. It's not going to get you laid instantly but it's a start. | |||
"We have played with guys in clubs and had real fun. Afterwards they have told us they had messaged us on fab at some point but we never replied. Meeting face to face is much better because you just know if its going to be fun. Fab is great for organising and finding club events but not for meeting new people." Exactly true. This is my experience. Popular out in the pubs and socially in life but in here .. Nothing. The internet generally is piss poor for dating. | |||
"After months of this all you people offering constructive advice are wasting your time. At one point I tried, then I thought Dave might be winding us up and trolling us. Now I think he just enjoys getting attention even negative attention. Whenever one of his threads goes quiet and slips down the list after a few days another one appears to start off the whole discussion again. " you aren't the only one thinking this way ..... | |||
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" If what he’s saying is true who willing to draw straws and take one for the team with OP. Would save our sanity here for sure "Epic | |||
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"After months of this all you people offering constructive advice are wasting your time. At one point I tried, then I thought Dave might be winding us up and trolling us. Now I think he just enjoys getting attention even negative attention. Whenever one of his threads goes quiet and slips down the list after a few days another one appears to start off the whole discussion again. I do take on advice ,and after reading posts and advice in this thread I have done a profile rewrite, which hopefully shows my laid back humorous personality. And I will be doing my regular photo updates this week . But ,like every single member on here , I have things that I am not interested in ,and top of that list are clubs and large organised socials. I'm not against all socials ,in fact I would love a one on one social in a public place for a chat and a coffee. A bit of company for a coffee social would be amazing . Due to the nature of my business I don't have much of a social life, due to the bizarre hours I sometimes work ,and the fact I'm self employed, and I'm on call a lot of the time . In fact I got called out last night at 10pm for a boarding up job ,but had to stand around waiting until the police gave me the go ahead to do my job . " you have stated many times you don't have transport yet your on call 24/7 for boarding up jobs ? you say you live in a remote area with crap public transport? how's that work 8x4 sheets of plywood plus tools needed are not easy to carry in a taxi ! | |||
" If what he’s saying is true who willing to draw straws and take one for the team with OP. Would save our sanity here for sure
Epic "A few years back on a local chat group there was somebody a bit like Dave. My swinging partner felt a bit sorry for him and he was a good looking chap so we messaged and invited him over for at least a blow job. He made every excuse under the sun | |||
" you have stated many times you don't have transport yet your on call 24/7 for boarding up jobs ? you say you live in a remote area with crap public transport? how's that work 8x4 sheets of plywood plus tools needed are not easy to carry in a taxi !" Busted I think Attention seeking it looks like | |||
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" If what he’s saying is true who willing to draw straws and take one for the team with OP. Would save our sanity here for sure
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" you have stated many times you don't have transport yet your on call 24/7 for boarding up jobs ? you say you live in a remote area with crap public transport? how's that work 8x4 sheets of plywood plus tools needed are not easy to carry in a taxi ! Busted I think Attention seeking it looks like" Yep! That was what we were thinking! | |||
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"Given the amount of replies Dave is getting on his threads and posts he's arguably one of the most popular guys on fab right now. Just not for the reasons most people would want to be." Perhaps famous might be a better word | |||
"We’ve met guys from Fab in the past that weren’t verified so your assumption is wrong. One thing they all had in common though was a positive and fun outlook. " This for us as well. | |||
"Given the amount of replies Dave is getting on his threads and posts he's arguably one of the most popular guys on fab right now. Just not for the reasons most people would want to be. Perhaps famous might be a better word "Or infamous  | |||
"Given the amount of replies Dave is getting on his threads and posts he's arguably one of the most popular guys on fab right now. Just not for the reasons most people would want to be. Perhaps famous might be a better word
Or infamous "True. Given Dave's statement that he's no longer looking for meets I can only assume that this is his goal and in that he has been successful. | |||
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" Whenever I see someone saying how popular they are in real life and when they’re out on the town but have no luck on here, I wonder what the fuck they are doing on here then? Go to the pub and get laid ffs. Mr DD" Hoping for an Uber Shag | |||
" Lots of bull as well about women only looking to meet the top 5 percent of men because that seems like a good way of glossing over your own inadequate approach. " So much this, I’ve always thought this to be a complete incel argument. “If it wasn’t for those pesky Chads I’d be getting laid” nah, you wouldn’t. Mr DD | |||
