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Is It Time To Check Out And Admit Defeat . ?
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"I have been a member on Fab for almost a year and a half . Apart from a quick two minute cam chat with a local couple just after I joined, I have not even had the chance of a one on one meet for a public social for a coffee and chat ,and have met with a constant brick wall. I have always posted up to date photos on a regular basis, so people know what I look like now, and regularly updated my profile bio, but alas no change in my luck. Granted , I have always said ,and it's in my profile bio, that I am not interested in clubs or organised large social gatherings. Maybe this is why I have no luck in making contact ,and chatting with single women and couples. ? Who knows . Maybe I'm just ugly ,maybe it's because I call a spade a spade ,and im a straight talking old fashioned Yorkshireman,who isn't politically correct , Who knows. Maybe it's because I gave a dad bod ,wobbly bits everywhere ,and I have no interest in going to a gym .? Granted , after my first six months on here ,I stopped sending messages ,as they were generally deleted unread ,and I've just looked at advertised meets since, and replied to a lot ,but ,again ,no success. Taking everything into account ,is a year and a half on here without a meet a signal that you are never going to meet anyone .? Is 18 months without a meet normal on here ? " I say this gently: every post you write has either a negative feel or a wistful feel like you wish things were other than they are. It feels like fab is not fun for you. And therefore, I think it’s time for you to take a break, because you are important and your mental health is important and you do not need unnecessary bullshit in your life. If it’s not fun, stop doing it. | |||
"I have been a member on Fab for almost a year and a half . Apart from a quick two minute cam chat with a local couple just after I joined, I have not even had the chance of a one on one meet for a public social for a coffee and chat ,and have met with a constant brick wall. I have always posted up to date photos on a regular basis, so people know what I look like now, and regularly updated my profile bio, but alas no change in my luck. Granted , I have always said ,and it's in my profile bio, that I am not interested in clubs or organised large social gatherings. Maybe this is why I have no luck in making contact ,and chatting with single women and couples. ? Who knows . Maybe I'm just ugly ,maybe it's because I call a spade a spade ,and im a straight talking old fashioned Yorkshireman,who isn't politically correct , Who knows. Maybe it's because I gave a dad bod ,wobbly bits everywhere ,and I have no interest in going to a gym .? Granted , after my first six months on here ,I stopped sending messages ,as they were generally deleted unread ,and I've just looked at advertised meets since, and replied to a lot ,but ,again ,no success. Taking everything into account ,is a year and a half on here without a meet a signal that you are never going to meet anyone .? Is 18 months without a meet normal on here ? I say this gently: every post you write has either a negative feel or a wistful feel like you wish things were other than they are. It feels like fab is not fun for you. And therefore, I think it’s time for you to take a break, because you are important and your mental health is important and you do not need unnecessary bullshit in your life. If it’s not fun, stop doing it. " This. Don’t do anything that makes you feel bad mate. I dip in and out of fab meet wise. Don’t take it too seriously. I meet and my profile is tragic Why not just bite the bullet to get verified and attend a social. It’s really rather fun! Good luck with whatever you decide mate. | |||
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"your mental health is important and you do not need unnecessary bullshit in your life. If it’s not fun, stop doing it. " This. So I'm part of a couple profile, we split up but have sort of back together but still finding out what our new relationship is now. Anyways, I had setup a single profile, thought I put a lot of effort into my profile text to get across who I am etc. Semi-decent pics, I only use to message the profiles of people I genuinely liked. I had a few replies but I know who I am and I know chatting people up is not my thing so never got to arrange any meets. Also a few other stuff, but the point is, I deleted it yesterday when I realised it was actually destroying my already low self confidence and fragile mental health. If this is doing the same to you and judging by the comments it has always been quite negative for you, I would also suggest taking a break. If you don't want to do that, then put effort into your profile before expecting any responses at the least. | |||
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"In my experience, when I was single, Fab was the only site I tried that brought me no success. I wasn't here all that long before I got tired of it, but I was in the same boat as you in not getting anywhere. Try different dating apps. If you already are, try different approaches. If you're not willing to bend, I totally get that and would respect you for it, but if that's the case you're just going to have to wait it out till someone reads your profile and gets you or meet people in the real world. Like others have said, verifications are everything here. Scott " Really don't think veris are everything. They can certainly help but not having is not a barrier. Everybody starts somewhere and there many are ladies and men who don't want to get involved with veris at all. It is more about being appealing when communicating. And has been said so many times if somebody really think veris are the problem just try to go to an organised social at a pub and you will get verified as well as making some contacts. | |||
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"In a word yes. Your forum posts and contributions are the most negative I have seen in all the time I been here. You have had a plethora of advice. You won't change how you do things. You don't message. Women will not throw themselves at you. The problem is not the gym fit hung guys. It's an attitude and yours is extremely negative. I couldn't imagine meeting you and having a laugh and some banter but rather you would moan about lack of meets. This place is doing you no good mental health wise either that or you get off on the responses you get from the posts you make. I do doubt this. So to clarify I don't thinknthe site is for you and maybe it is time to give in and go elsewhere "  | |||
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"Probably just down to luck. New suggestion: meet a woman outside of fab and introduce her to this site! Loads of women these days love a liberal man so it wont be very difficult. You just need to be brave enough to tell the woman you’re dating that you’d like to see another mans cock inside her. Hopefully she’ll say yes and the next thing you know youre slap back in the middle of an orgy! LOL" No it’s not down to luck. OP has written here a lot and received lots of advice. Also I don’t think OP wants to be in an orgy at a club or party. More of a one on one type. | |||
"Probably just down to luck. New suggestion: meet a woman outside of fab and introduce her to this site! Loads of women these days love a liberal man so it wont be very difficult. You just need to be brave enough to tell the woman you’re dating that you’d like to see another mans cock inside her. Hopefully she’ll say yes and the next thing you know youre slap back in the middle of an orgy! LOL No it’s not down to luck. OP has written here a lot and received lots of advice. Also I don’t think OP wants to be in an orgy at a club or party. More of a one on one type. " This. I've long wondered what his "end goal" is as his refusal to do anything remotely related to swing seems to put him in the category closer to something like dating (meeting privately for a bite to eat, a drink etc). Which also means he's in the wrong place unless deliberately looking for a partner who would swing with him, which also seems unlikely. | |||
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"I have been a member on Fab for almost a year and a half . Apart from a quick two minute cam chat with a local couple just after I joined, I have not even had the chance of a one on one meet for a public social for a coffee and chat ,and have met with a constant brick wall. I have always posted up to date photos on a regular basis, so people know what I look like now, and regularly updated my profile bio, but alas no change in my luck. Granted , I have always said ,and it's in my profile bio, that I am not interested in clubs or organised large social gatherings. Maybe this is why I have no luck in making contact ,and chatting with single women and couples. ? Who knows . Maybe I'm just ugly ,maybe it's because I call a spade a spade ,and im a straight talking old fashioned Yorkshireman,who isn't politically correct , Who knows. Maybe it's because I gave a dad bod ,wobbly bits everywhere ,and I have no interest in going to a gym .? Granted , after my first six months on here ,I stopped sending messages ,as they were generally deleted unread ,and I've just looked at advertised meets since, and replied to a lot ,but ,again ,no success. Taking everything into account ,is a year and a half on here without a meet a signal that you are never going to meet anyone .? Is 18 months without a meet normal on here ? " You have asked for advice and opinions before People took their time and make suggestions You shot them all down without a single thought… I remember the last thing I said to you was that the definition of insanity was doing the same thing again and again, and expecting a different result! Maybe… just maybe if you had taken just a slither of some… it may have turned different  | |||
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"If you're not into socials or going to a club and I my want 1 to 1 then you're wanting to date not swing. Every post is complaining you no one will meet you. You don't go to clubs or socials or message people any more. What do you think will happen? Or shall we just wait a few weeks for the next complaint that no one on fab wants to go on a date with you. " Nail on the head! Youre looking to date, not swing. You’re on the wrong site! Lmao | |||
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"If you're not into socials or going to a club and I my want 1 to 1 then you're wanting to date not swing. Every post is complaining you no one will meet you. You don't go to clubs or socials or message people any more. What do you think will happen? Or shall we just wait a few weeks for the next complaint that no one on fab wants to go on a date with you. " Agree on conclusion but you can swing without going to clubs or socials and many do. Some would do this one on one with different people and some threesomes, foursomes etc. all arranged privately off of here without clubs and socials. | |||
"If you're not into socials or going to a club and I my want 1 to 1 then you're wanting to date not swing. Every post is complaining you no one will meet you. You don't go to clubs or socials or message people any more. What do you think will happen? Or shall we just wait a few weeks for the next complaint that no one on fab wants to go on a date with you. Nail on the head! Youre looking to date, not swing. You’re on the wrong site! Lmao" Why are laughing your ass off? Get pleasure in the difficulties of others. I too think OP is in the wrong place but don't find it amusing or pleasurable. | |||
"If you're not into socials or going to a club and I my want 1 to 1 then you're wanting to date not swing. Every post is complaining you no one will meet you. You don't go to clubs or socials or message people any more. What do you think will happen? Or shall we just wait a few weeks for the next complaint that no one on fab wants to go on a date with you. Nail on the head! Youre looking to date, not swing. You’re on the wrong site! Lmao Why are laughing your ass off? Get pleasure in the difficulties of others. I too think OP is in the wrong place but don't find it amusing or pleasurable. " That's why I blocked them, such ignorance and bad manners  | |||
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"I only meet verified men " I was verified a man at birth. Do you mean meet verified or via the email link at registration? | |||
"You seem to whinge a lot about not getting meets but won’t actually put yourself out there. No one is gonna just come to you. You have to make a bit of effort! That means organised socials or club nights. Asking people to meet one on one is the hardest way to meet people here if a single guy! " 100%. I did better on Tinder... | |||
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"I have been a member on Fab for almost a year and a half . Apart from a quick two minute cam chat with a local couple just after I joined, I have not even had the chance of a one on one meet for a public social for a coffee and chat ,and have met with a constant brick wall. I have always posted up to date photos on a regular basis, so people know what I look like now, and regularly updated my profile bio, but alas no change in my luck. Granted , I have always said ,and it's in my profile bio, that I am not interested in clubs or organised large social gatherings. Maybe this is why I have no luck in making contact ,and chatting with single women and couples. ? Who knows . Maybe I'm just ugly ,maybe it's because I call a spade a spade ,and im a straight talking old fashioned Yorkshireman,who isn't politically correct , Who knows. Maybe it's because I gave a dad bod ,wobbly bits everywhere ,and I have no interest in going to a gym .? Granted , after my first six months on here ,I stopped sending messages ,as they were generally deleted unread ,and I've just looked at advertised meets since, and replied to a lot ,but ,again ,no success. Taking everything into account ,is a year and a half on here without a meet a signal that you are never going to meet anyone .? Is 18 months without a meet normal on here ? " I don't think it has anything to do with being ugly. Your pictures are a little bit strained and joyless. You seem to be grimacing in most of your photos, almost as if it hurts you to have to post a photo. I know you didn't ask explicitly for feedback but I hope this might help when you come back (of course, take what I say with a pinch of salt as someone who hasn't met a Fab woman either - the three or four women on here are very busy - I rely on the comfort of gentleman callers) Good luck, mister. | |||
"I am curious in how you know you are not interested in clubs when you have never tried one. What is it that puts you off ? " Probably the ridiculous amount of money that single men get charged | |||
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"I’ve never met anyone on here, not sure I even want to but find it the utmost entertainment, what more could you ask for… it is what it is, your other options are tinder and POF, which equates to more confusion, forcing your self to go on dates with people you don’t know which absolutely doesn’t work (tell me if I’m wrong) Fab is great, ppl simply be who they are and say what they want, take the time to look and appreciate who they are it’s quite special" I'm not sure Fabswingers is quite as idyllic as you suggest. It's a sex site where only the minority have sex, all the while proclaiming a sense of community and 'lifestyle'. The tightly policed Forum give a skewed, albeit mildly entertaining, view of the world. | |||
"I’ve never met anyone on here, not sure I even want to but find it the utmost entertainment, what more could you ask for… it is what it is, your other options are tinder and POF, which equates to more confusion, forcing your self to go on dates with people you don’t know which absolutely doesn’t work (tell me if I’m wrong) Fab is great, ppl simply be who they are and say what they want, take the time to look and appreciate who they are it’s quite special" ‘Forcing yourself to go on dates with people you don’t know which absolutely doesn’t work (tell me if I’m wrong)’ If you’re saying that going on a date with someone you don’t know (other than chatting to them on a dating site) never leads to having sex with them or having a relationship with them, then yes you’re wrong. For what you say to be true it would have to be true that a date between 2 people who have only chatted to each other on a dating site prior to meeting has never lead to anything else happening between them. For it to absolutely not work it would require there to have never been a sexual encounter or a relationship to have ever developed from people meeting through a dating site. | |||
). I think my profile even says I like date nights xx | |||
"I’ve never met anyone on here, not sure I even want to but find it the utmost entertainment, what more could you ask for… it is what it is, your other options are tinder and POF, which equates to more confusion, forcing your self to go on dates with people you don’t know which absolutely doesn’t work (tell me if I’m wrong) Fab is great, ppl simply be who they are and say what they want, take the time to look and appreciate who they are it’s quite special" So how do you think couples get to know each other if going on dates doesn't work? | |||
" ‘Forcing yourself to go on dates with people you don’t know which absolutely doesn’t work (tell me if I’m wrong)’ " How do you make friends ? They all start out as strangers | |||
" ‘Forcing yourself to go on dates with people you don’t know which absolutely doesn’t work (tell me if I’m wrong)’ How do you make friends ? They all start out as strangers" True. After all a stranger is just a friend you haven't met, unless they decide to keep your head in the fridge, of course. | |||
"Probably a question to put to yourself, rather than in a forum of the very place you're complaining about." This! | |||
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"Here we go again... Genuinely think you might be better to leave as this place doesn't bring you happiness and for various reasons you don't want to try to change things. The negative tone is just very unlikely to work. You'd probably have a better chance elsewhere on more normal dating or hook-up sites with no questions about veris, social/club chat etc and not being able to see what others are doing which reinforces the negative mindset. Best of luck. " This. It's not about any othat you've listed, OP. I met lovely people who were not verified, had a shadow as their profile, were not fit or perfect, whatever that means, at all! They all had something I was attracted to, simple as that. | |||
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You ain’t ugly. I’ve seen some total chuds get laid off this site
Just keep trying...or...lower your standards | |||
"Mate, I’m good looking Muscular Hung And actually have a personality. Yet I haven’t manage to meet anyone off this site in 4yeeeeaars.
You ain’t ugly. I’ve seen some total chuds get laid off this site
Just keep trying...or...lower your standards "Maybe remove this from your profile "Changed my age to chat-up a lady on here who I was “too old” for.....She didn’t reply, now I can’t change it back!" It's a red flag that you changed your age to speak to someone instead of, you know, respect their preferences. | |||
"Mate, I’m good looking Muscular Hung And actually have a personality. Yet I haven’t manage to meet anyone off this site in 4yeeeeaars.
You ain’t ugly. I’ve seen some total chuds get laid off this site
Just keep trying...or...lower your standards
Maybe remove this from your profile "Changed my age to chat-up a lady on here who I was “too old” for.....She didn’t reply, now I can’t change it back!"
It's a red flag that you changed your age to speak to someone instead of, you know, respect their preferences."It's a sex site luv! Wimmin should be grateful the menfolk want to fuck them. | |||
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"Mate, I’m good looking Muscular Hung And actually have a personality. Yet I haven’t manage to meet anyone off this site in 4yeeeeaars.
You ain’t ugly. I’ve seen some total chuds get laid off this site
Just keep trying...or...lower your standards
Maybe remove this from your profile "Changed my age to chat-up a lady on here who I was “too old” for.....She didn’t reply, now I can’t change it back!"
It's a red flag that you changed your age to speak to someone instead of, you know, respect their preferences.
It's a sex site luv! Wimmin should be grateful the menfolk want to fuck them. "It's a reversal of life, having you now!! begging on your knees all hale the vagina | |||
"I've a massive sense of Deja vu..... You've made multiple threads of the same topic ... and ppl have been supportive and given advice as best as they can. But ultimately..... you'll take it or From a woman's POV..... your negativity is a turn off, being on here so long without a verification is a red flag.... As others have said .... if it's not fun for you why keep doing it. K " With respect , its hard to get meet verified, if no one will meet unverified single blokes . | |||
" With respect , its hard to get meet verified, if no one will meet unverified single blokes ." If you went to a club you could get verifications | |||
"As I've said countless times on threads like this. FAB is just one tool in the box. What would you think if someone came to fix your car and turned up with just a screwdriver and no other tools. Then complained that he can't do the job? The swinger lifestyle is not really much different. Clubs and socials (like them or not) are the other tools you need. They will compliment your FAB profile and your profile will compliment them. If you don't want to do that then you are just like the mechanic turning up with only a screwdriver. Either embrace the lifestyle or pack it in. " Pretty profound and bang on the money! Maybe should put this post in the site instructions, but above this post there is great advice. There are some brilliant, and generous, people on this site! | |||
"Dave I want to apologise to you for my over blunt replies to you to up till now. I'm triggered by the deep negativity in how you conduct yourself in this forum. I hope for you that that trying to find a lover doesn't keep down. Find your way back up. You can't measure your value by how fab responds to you. We only see a very small part of you and fab is like a carnival mirror that can overly distorting. No one here can really help you in your decision any meaningful way. Good luck." Thank you for your kind response mate . | |||
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" With respect , its hard to get meet verified, if no one will meet unverified single blokes . If you went to a club you could get verifications" Bingo!!! | |||
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"The one thing that annoys me you send a message make it pretty long and interesting and they either dont read it ,deleat it or just dont reply, id sooner have a no thanks not for me reply." Unfortunately, the way the site filters work, if I reply to you once, your messages will always make it through the filters, even when I don’t want to receive messages cos I’m not looking. | |||
"As I've said countless times on threads like this. FAB is just one tool in the box. What would you think if someone came to fix your car and turned up with just a screwdriver and no other tools. Then complained that he can't do the job? The swinger lifestyle is not really much different. Clubs and socials (like them or not) are the other tools you need. They will compliment your FAB profile and your profile will compliment them. If you don't want to do that then you are just like the mechanic turning up with only a screwdriver. Either embrace the lifestyle or pack it in. Pretty profound and bang on the money! Maybe should put this post in the site instructions, but above this post there is great advice. There are some brilliant, and generous, people on this site!" Not bang on the money at all. Clubs and socials complement but are not needed. The site is full of people meeting without going to clubs or socials - the majority of people meeting don’t. Of course if struggling it’s potentially a great way to get things going but if you don’t then not like a mechanic with a screwdriver. | |||
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"I agree that clubs and socials are not the be all and end all. But if you're not going to down that road then your messages, photos and bio really need to be on point. And it helps to have good game in the forum too. Worked for me" Agreed especially on messages and how you talk to people. That is the key I think. Forum not that relevant really as most of Fab never go on it but perhaps might help a bit. The other thing I've found useful over the years is being flexible on time - sometimes it is just about being in the right place at the right time. If a lady posts about meeting that day, which sometimes they do, then it is surprisingly hard for them to find somebody half decent at short notice. If you are really free and relatively close then that is a massive help. | |||
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"The one thing that annoys me you send a message make it pretty long and interesting and they either dont read it ,deleat it or just dont reply, id sooner have a no thanks not for me reply." As is very clearly stated in the site FAQ's, a non-reply should be taken as a 'no, thank you'. Nobody owes you a reply | |||
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"I have been a member on Fab for almost a year and a half . Apart from a quick two minute cam chat with a local couple just after I joined, I have not even had the chance of a one on one meet for a public social for a coffee and chat ,and have met with a constant brick wall. I have always posted up to date photos on a regular basis, so people know what I look like now, and regularly updated my profile bio, but alas no change in my luck. Granted , I have always said ,and it's in my profile bio, that I am not interested in clubs or organised large social gatherings. Maybe this is why I have no luck in making contact ,and chatting with single women and couples. ? Who knows . Maybe I'm just ugly ,maybe it's because I call a spade a spade ,and im a straight talking old fashioned Yorkshireman,who isn't politically correct , Who knows. Maybe it's because I gave a dad bod ,wobbly bits everywhere ,and I have no interest in going to a gym .? Granted , after my first six months on here ,I stopped sending messages ,as they were generally deleted unread ,and I've just looked at advertised meets since, and replied to a lot ,but ,again ,no success. Taking everything into account ,is a year and a half on here without a meet a signal that you are never going to meet anyone .? Is 18 months without a meet normal on here ? " I've had nothing doing for 8 years. A meet in 2015 and it took 7 years to get that, so it's not impossible to get a meet,just very unlikely. I have never given up but after all this time with no luck,I'm also feeling like giving in,and accepting that women just ain't interested. Whatever it is they are looking for,the likes of you and me ain't got it. | |||
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"Not to drag up the green arrow Dave, but you've mentioned before on here that you haven't climaxed in several years. That probably won't be making you feel spectacularly fulfilled in yourself x" Thanks for your reply. Yes ,it's been quite a long time . I have never thought I'm gods gift to women, or even good looking and I definitely do not work out , never been to a gym ,and never will . But after spending a lot of time looking at profiles of single blokes on here who had many meets in their first few mobths on here ,I didn't expect it to be impossible to make connections after a year and a half on Fab. | |||
"Not to drag up the green arrow Dave, but you've mentioned before on here that you haven't climaxed in several years. That probably won't be making you feel spectacularly fulfilled in yourself x Thanks for your reply. Yes ,it's been quite a long time . I have never thought I'm gods gift to women, or even good looking and I definitely do not work out , never been to a gym ,and never will . But after spending a lot of time looking at profiles of single blokes on here who had many meets in their first few mobths on here ,I didn't expect it to be impossible to make connections after a year and a half on Fab. " You know now what fab is after a year and a half… - moving forward what do you intend to do? Continue berating the site/women/gyms/fit men/anything but yourself?? | |||
"Not to drag up the green arrow Dave, but you've mentioned before on here that you haven't climaxed in several years. That probably won't be making you feel spectacularly fulfilled in yourself x Thanks for your reply. Yes ,it's been quite a long time . I have never thought I'm gods gift to women, or even good looking and I definitely do not work out , never been to a gym ,and never will . But after spending a lot of time looking at profiles of single blokes on here who had many meets in their first few mobths on here ,I didn't expect it to be impossible to make connections after a year and a half on Fab. " Take a look at this from an outside perspective OP. Based on what you've said in this post alone, you're pretty inflexible. It also sounds like you're not willing to try anything new to change your luck. Quite often for us, the amount of effort and enthusiasm shown by a profile is what makes us get in touch. | |||
" Take a look at this from an outside perspective OP. Based on what you've said in this post alone, you're pretty inflexible. It also sounds like you're not willing to try anything new to change your luck. Quite often for us, the amount of effort and enthusiasm shown by a profile is what makes us get in touch." I’ve just said this on a different thread. Effort in, results out. It’s not difficult to realise that if you make the effort to improve yourself, you’ll appeal to more people! That’s in all spheres, photos, profile text, appearance and attitude! Even availability! If you’re only available in a limited area, you’re going to limit yourself! | |||
"The forum can be relevant. I got my first five coffee socials through the it. There's always more than one way to skin a cat on fab and everyone has to play to their strengths." I didn't say Forum can't be relevant. I said it is not that relevant in the grander scheme of Fab only, especially when it comes to meeting people, as only a small sliver of Fab members come on here - that is just fact. Sometimes Forum can provide a rather atypical view of the swinging world. Anyway great it has worked for you. Sadly I don't think Dave's Forum game is helping him much but we live in hope... | |||
Might help shift your mindset. If you find yourself writing something negative just stop and don't post it. Not saying Forum posting will lead to anything but might rub off on your broader mindset. | |||
" Take a look at this from an outside perspective OP. Based on what you've said in this post alone, you're pretty inflexible. It also sounds like you're not willing to try anything new to change your luck. Quite often for us, the amount of effort and enthusiasm shown by a profile is what makes us get in touch. I’ve just said this on a different thread. Effort in, results out. It’s not difficult to realise that if you make the effort to improve yourself, you’ll appeal to more people! That’s in all spheres, photos, profile text, appearance and attitude! Even availability! If you’re only available in a limited area, you’re going to limit yourself! " I appreciate your reply. I update my profile and photos on a regular basis, so people can see exactly what I look like now. Sadly it has made no difference. I can accommodate, I am happy to meet for a one on one social in a public place for a coffee or bite to eat to see if there is a spark and attraction. I would welcome your thoughts if you think my photos and profile need changing . | |||
" Take a look at this from an outside perspective OP. Based on what you've said in this post alone, you're pretty inflexible. It also sounds like you're not willing to try anything new to change your luck. Quite often for us, the amount of effort and enthusiasm shown by a profile is what makes us get in touch. I’ve just said this on a different thread. Effort in, results out. It’s not difficult to realise that if you make the effort to improve yourself, you’ll appeal to more people! That’s in all spheres, photos, profile text, appearance and attitude! Even availability! If you’re only available in a limited area, you’re going to limit yourself! I appreciate your reply. I update my profile and photos on a regular basis, so people can see exactly what I look like now. Sadly it has made no difference. I can accommodate, I am happy to meet for a one on one social in a public place for a coffee or bite to eat to see if there is a spark and attraction. I would welcome your thoughts if you think my photos and profile need changing ." To put this bluntly Dave it's not your profile that is the problem. What puts people off is your attitude. | |||
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"Just because you don’t drive doesn’t mean you can’t travel. " Very true! How do you get about day to day? | |||
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"*sigh* Dave, you're putting more vigour into your negative forum comments than ever "Wondering if possible Dave is now just on a wind up | |||
"*sigh* Dave, you're putting more vigour into your negative forum comments than ever
Wondering if possible Dave is now just on a wind up "Consider that this is almost certainly the most attention Dave has ever had on Fab. | |||
"As I've said countless times on threads like this. FAB is just one tool in the box. What would you think if someone came to fix your car and turned up with just a screwdriver and no other tools. Then complained that he can't do the job? The swinger lifestyle is not really much different. Clubs and socials (like them or not) are the other tools you need. They will compliment your FAB profile and your profile will compliment them. If you don't want to do that then you are just like the mechanic turning up with only a screwdriver. Either embrace the lifestyle or pack it in. Pretty profound and bang on the money! Maybe should put this post in the site instructions, but above this post there is great advice. There are some brilliant, and generous, people on this site! Not bang on the money at all. Clubs and socials complement but are not needed. The site is full of people meeting without going to clubs or socials - the majority of people meeting don’t. Of course if struggling it’s potentially a great way to get things going but if you don’t then not like a mechanic with a screwdriver. " OK so probably the majority of "people" on here do meet without clubs and socials. But I'll bet that the vast majority of those "people" are couples and single fems. It is very different for single guys (trust me I've been one) With only a few exceptions they really do have to try harder, and in this lifestyle clubs and socials are about the only other options. The OP is obviously struggling on here so there really is nowhere else to go. So back to the mechanic. He may turn up with his screwdriver and the job is just say changing a radiator hose. No problem, job done. Same with just a profile on here. Very occasionally you can get lucky but more often than not, you won't. Do the odds. | |||
"As I've said countless times on threads like this. FAB is just one tool in the box. What would you think if someone came to fix your car and turned up with just a screwdriver and no other tools. Then complained that he can't do the job? The swinger lifestyle is not really much different. Clubs and socials (like them or not) are the other tools you need. They will compliment your FAB profile and your profile will compliment them. If you don't want to do that then you are just like the mechanic turning up with only a screwdriver. Either embrace the lifestyle or pack it in. Pretty profound and bang on the money! Maybe should put this post in the site instructions, but above this post there is great advice. There are some brilliant, and generous, people on this site! Not bang on the money at all. Clubs and socials complement but are not needed. The site is full of people meeting without going to clubs or socials - the majority of people meeting don’t. Of course if struggling it’s potentially a great way to get things going but if you don’t then not like a mechanic with a screwdriver. OK so probably the majority of "people" on here do meet without clubs and socials. But I'll bet that the vast majority of those "people" are couples and single fems. It is very different for single guys (trust me I've been one) With only a few exceptions they really do have to try harder, and in this lifestyle clubs and socials are about the only other options. The OP is obviously struggling on here so there really is nowhere else to go. So back to the mechanic. He may turn up with his screwdriver and the job is just say changing a radiator hose. No problem, job done. Same with just a profile on here. Very occasionally you can get lucky but more often than not, you won't. Do the odds. " Well yes easier if a couple or lady but think my point holds for single men. I just did some research. Within a 5 miles radius of me 115 men looking for ladies are meet verified. I checked first 30 before getting bored. Roughly 20 had veris displayed which made no reference to clubs/group socials. 2 had reference to clubs/group socials. 8 didn’t have veris displayed. Maybe unrepresentative but that a lot of men meeting ladies directly off of Fab. | |||
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