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The term BBC... What's the issue? (continuation thread)
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"?" Why worry about what they say or think Do what’s best for u 2 | |||
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"As a black man or man of colour that uses the term and has the term in his username. I think it comes down to the individual. I would not use the term in everyday life obviously, but I think on a sex site we are all reduced to our body parts in some way or the other, it is the first thing we see and what we are attracted to in the opposite person's. BBW reduces women to their size, P.W.A.G reduces white women to their arse size and whiteness, same as BWC your reducing him to his cock and whiteness. Even the term "hung" and "black" or "white" It's all the same. Your on a sex site to meet and have sex, engage in something different out of your everyday life. I think people are a bit too sensitive. Your upset with a term because you think your being used for your cock ! Hello ! We are all being used on this site by each other ! That's my take on it." This is probably the best answer I have seen in the forum's. | |||
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"As a black man or man of colour that uses the term and has the term in his username. I think it comes down to the individual. I would not use the term in everyday life obviously, but I think on a sex site we are all reduced to our body parts in some way or the other, it is the first thing we see and what we are attracted to in the opposite person's. BBW reduces women to their size, P.W.A.G reduces white women to their arse size and whiteness, same as BWC your reducing him to his cock and whiteness. Even the term "hung" and "black" or "white" It's all the same. Your on a sex site to meet and have sex, engage in something different out of your everyday life. I think people are a bit too sensitive. Your upset with a term because you think your being used for your cock ! Hello ! We are all being used on this site by each other ! That's my take on it." Maybe not as much as others as a balance  | |||
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"As a black man or man of colour that uses the term and has the term in his username. I think it comes down to the individual. I would not use the term in everyday life obviously, but I think on a sex site we are all reduced to our body parts in some way or the other, it is the first thing we see and what we are attracted to in the opposite person's. BBW reduces women to their size, P.W.A.G reduces white women to their arse size and whiteness, same as BWC your reducing him to his cock and whiteness. Even the term "hung" and "black" or "white" It's all the same. Your on a sex site to meet and have sex, engage in something different out of your everyday life. I think people are a bit too sensitive. Your upset with a term because you think your being used for your cock ! Hello ! We are all being used on this site by each other ! That's my take on it." I think it’s unfair to say that’s why people are upset about it when on the last thread it was explained (by other Black people) that for some people it has more to do with the fact the term is rooted in racist stereotypes and racist violent history than the reduction of a man to his penis. You’re more than welcome to use it yourself but like, I don’t think it’s fair to ignore that aspect of people disliking it. | |||
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"So where do we stop, do we ban terms like Hotwife because it pertains to the protected characteristics of marriage and being female, or MILF because it pertains again the characteristic of being female and age, or BBW because again it relates to females and potentially health, or…….well you get my drift. As a couple we are courteous respectful people in all aspects of our life, but really, this is a swinging site and the swinging lifestyle has a well understood and largely accepted lexicon of descriptive terms. We all understand the positive context they are used in and knowing full well that it is not to promote any negative connotations that the terminology might otherwise have out in the wild. Increasingly society is seeking to police language in a way which is oppressive and antithetical to free speech, just look at the insanity on social media over the whole radical trans issue. We need to be less precious and understand that in a community like this people generally mean well and are using language in its fun sexual sense rather than to cause offence or attack protected characteristics. " Just respect that not everyone will like to be called these terms. And respect their right to be offended. And then just stick to the people that are a good match. If you want to sleep with a Black guy that doesn’t like the term BBC then just don’t use it? | |||
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"So where do we stop, do we ban terms like Hotwife because it pertains to the protected characteristics of marriage and being female, or MILF because it pertains again the characteristic of being female and age, or BBW because again it relates to females and potentially health, or…….well you get my drift. As a couple we are courteous respectful people in all aspects of our life, but really, this is a swinging site and the swinging lifestyle has a well understood and largely accepted lexicon of descriptive terms. We all understand the positive context they are used in and knowing full well that it is not to promote any negative connotations that the terminology might otherwise have out in the wild. Increasingly society is seeking to police language in a way which is oppressive and antithetical to free speech, just look at the insanity on social media over the whole radical trans issue. We need to be less precious and understand that in a community like this people generally mean well and are using language in its fun sexual sense rather than to cause offence or attack protected characteristics. Just respect that not everyone will like to be called these terms. And respect their right to be offended. And then just stick to the people that are a good match. If you want to sleep with a Black guy that doesn’t like the term BBC then just don’t use it? " If someone indicates they are uncomfortable with with a term then naturally we will respect that, we are not phillistines. That said, there is altogether too much hand wringing going on these days. Oh, and to conclude, we never use the term BBC because it is not a thing for us, but we are happy with people calling Mrs S a Hotwife, MILF, etc, frankly people can knock themselves out using whatever terms they want. | |||
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"So where do we stop, do we ban terms like Hotwife because it pertains to the protected characteristics of marriage and being female, or MILF because it pertains again the characteristic of being female and age, or BBW because again it relates to females and potentially health, or…….well you get my drift. As a couple we are courteous respectful people in all aspects of our life, but really, this is a swinging site and the swinging lifestyle has a well understood and largely accepted lexicon of descriptive terms. We all understand the positive context they are used in and knowing full well that it is not to promote any negative connotations that the terminology might otherwise have out in the wild. Increasingly society is seeking to police language in a way which is oppressive and antithetical to free speech, just look at the insanity on social media over the whole radical trans issue. We need to be less precious and understand that in a community like this people generally mean well and are using language in its fun sexual sense rather than to cause offence or attack protected characteristics. Just respect that not everyone will like to be called these terms. And respect their right to be offended. And then just stick to the people that are a good match. If you want to sleep with a Black guy that doesn’t like the term BBC then just don’t use it? If someone indicates they are uncomfortable with with a term then naturally we will respect that, we are not phillistines. That said, there is altogether too much hand wringing going on these days. Oh, and to conclude, we never use the term BBC because it is not a thing for us, but we are happy with people calling Mrs S a Hotwife, MILF, etc, frankly people can knock themselves out using whatever terms they want." Those terms are very different to BBC in terms of offence. | |||
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"So where do we stop, do we ban terms like Hotwife because it pertains to the protected characteristics of marriage and being female, or MILF because it pertains again the characteristic of being female and age, or BBW because again it relates to females and potentially health, or…….well you get my drift. As a couple we are courteous respectful people in all aspects of our life, but really, this is a swinging site and the swinging lifestyle has a well understood and largely accepted lexicon of descriptive terms. We all understand the positive context they are used in and knowing full well that it is not to promote any negative connotations that the terminology might otherwise have out in the wild. Increasingly society is seeking to police language in a way which is oppressive and antithetical to free speech, just look at the insanity on social media over the whole radical trans issue. We need to be less precious and understand that in a community like this people generally mean well and are using language in its fun sexual sense rather than to cause offence or attack protected characteristics. Just respect that not everyone will like to be called these terms. And respect their right to be offended. And then just stick to the people that are a good match. If you want to sleep with a Black guy that doesn’t like the term BBC then just don’t use it? If someone indicates they are uncomfortable with with a term then naturally we will respect that, we are not phillistines. That said, there is altogether too much hand wringing going on these days. Oh, and to conclude, we never use the term BBC because it is not a thing for us, but we are happy with people calling Mrs S a Hotwife, MILF, etc, frankly people can knock themselves out using whatever terms they want. Those terms are very different to BBC in terms of offence. "Is it really? I saw a thread only the other day where women were expressing their discomfort being referred to by those terms for largely the same reasons such as focussing on a physical characteristic or appearance, sex, age, in other words a number of protected characteristics. Women have faced terrible discrimination in the past, and still do in many places around the world, and have fought for many decades to battle such prejudice and achieve equality. So maybe not so different after all?! | |||
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" Is it really? I saw a thread only the other day where women were expressing their discomfort being referred to by those terms for largely the same reasons such as focussing on a physical characteristic or appearance, sex, age, in other words a number of protected characteristics. Women have faced terrible discrimination in the past, and still do in many places around the world, and have fought for many decades to battle such prejudice and achieve equality. So maybe not so different after all?!" As as been said before, for me it's the dehumanising nature of the term which reduces the guy to his appendage, which you don't get with terms such as Pawg, BBW, Milf or hotwife. In each of those names the person is still evident (girl in Pawg, woman in BBW, Mother in Milf etc) I have no problem with saying I have a BBC (though I'd never say that) but I'm definitely not a BBC. If I messaged a husband saying I'd like a go on your tight wet pussy, referring to his wife, do you see where the problem is? | |||
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" Is it really? I saw a thread only the other day where women were expressing their discomfort being referred to by those terms for largely the same reasons such as focussing on a physical characteristic or appearance, sex, age, in other words a number of protected characteristics. Women have faced terrible discrimination in the past, and still do in many places around the world, and have fought for many decades to battle such prejudice and achieve equality. So maybe not so different after all?! As as been said before, for me it's the dehumanising nature of the term which reduces the guy to his appendage, which you don't get with terms such as Pawg, BBW, Milf or hotwife. In each of those names the person is still evident (girl in Pawg, woman in BBW, Mother in Milf etc) I have no problem with saying I have a BBC (though I'd never say that) but I'm definitely not a BBC. If I messaged a husband saying I'd like a go on your tight wet pussy, referring to his wife, do you see where the problem is? " I was going to respond further, but on reflection I think we are at that point where we agree to differ. | |||
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" Is it really? I saw a thread only the other day where women were expressing their discomfort being referred to by those terms for largely the same reasons such as focussing on a physical characteristic or appearance, sex, age, in other words a number of protected characteristics. Women have faced terrible discrimination in the past, and still do in many places around the world, and have fought for many decades to battle such prejudice and achieve equality. So maybe not so different after all?!" They’re not based on stereotypes with a violent history… that’s a clear difference. The term PAWG, which is gross and cringe, is not based on a stereotype White women are seen to possess and that has a violent historical context. Misogynistic terms like B*tch, with clear violent histories are more comparable. The difference is really obvious you can’t compare the terms PAWG or BBW to BBC lol. | |||
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"People may like or hate the term, but as a descriptive term when it is used you know exactly what it is. A big, black, cock. There not much equivocation here." ........................... However it's used to describe people, not just genitalia..that's the problem! | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"?" You have your preferences and cos it doesn't include them, they are miffed and throwing their toys out of the pram. | |||
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"How about BCC, big chocolate cock, it’s not really chocolate but I’m told I’m a horny mouthful and with a glass and a half of creamy fun. I love the contrast of indulging lovers with different complexions, objectification is inevitable but as long as there is respect for each other, enjoy. " OHHHHHHH far too much spunk, I'm staying away  .
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"So where do we stop, do we ban terms like Hotwife because it pertains to the protected characteristics of marriage and being female, or MILF because it pertains again the characteristic of being female and age, or BBW because again it relates to females and potentially health, or…….well you get my drift. As a couple we are courteous respectful people in all aspects of our life, but really, this is a swinging site and the swinging lifestyle has a well understood and largely accepted lexicon of descriptive terms. We all understand the positive context they are used in and knowing full well that it is not to promote any negative connotations that the terminology might otherwise have out in the wild. Increasingly society is seeking to police language in a way which is oppressive and antithetical to free speech, just look at the insanity on social media over the whole radical trans issue. We need to be less precious and understand that in a community like this people generally mean well and are using language in its fun sexual sense rather than to cause offence or attack protected characteristics. Just respect that not everyone will like to be called these terms. And respect their right to be offended. And then just stick to the people that are a good match. If you want to sleep with a Black guy that doesn’t like the term BBC then just don’t use it? If someone indicates they are uncomfortable with with a term then naturally we will respect that, we are not phillistines. That said, there is altogether too much hand wringing going on these days. Oh, and to conclude, we never use the term BBC because it is not a thing for us, but we are happy with people calling Mrs S a Hotwife, MILF, etc, frankly people can knock themselves out using whatever terms they want." People choose to be insulted or choose to feel the insult for others - they have the problem | |||
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"Repost from previous thread: This is an extract from an article written by the psychologist Dr Roberta Babb re racial fetishisation: "It can be difficult to understand that something you believe to be a preference actually has racist implications. But it is important that the distinction is made because the impact of fetishisation on people of colour can be extremely damaging. It’s also important to note that it isn’t racist to say you’re attracted to a Black woman, or an Asian man, as long as you are not attracted to them solely because they are Black or Asian, or because of certain physical features that are frequently attributed to that group. Additionally, saying you fancy women with blonde hair is not the same as saying you fancy Black women. Having blonde hair isn’t a characteristic that causes a person to experience discrimination and systemic inequality throughout their life, whereas being Black is. So, when a white person says they are sexually attracted to Black women, or Asian women, or any minoritised group, there is an historic power dynamic at play – and there isn’t when you say you are attracted to tall men, or women with long legs, for example. Dr Babb explains this difference perfectly by referencing the ‘racial lens’. ‘The racial identity of an individual forms the lens through which they are seen, sexualised and selected,’ she tells us. ‘This racial lens also creates negative and unrealistic stereotypes such as hypersexual, dominant and submissive. These stereotypes also speak to inherent subconscious mechanisms of white supremacy – which dictate who is or is not sexually attractive – within this phenomenon. ‘Furthermore, it reduces minoritised people, to one dimensional objects which provide sexual services, fulfil fantasies and who cannot be hurt. This also speaks to racial fetishism’s dark and violent history which is rooted in ancient colonialism.’"" I won't discount this (I cannot) but if some black man wants to advertise himself here as BBC, and a white woman (or any colour actually) wants to advertise for a BBC, they could be a perfect match without the historical aspect to it. It is a short cut to what they want. White men have cottoned on to this short cut nowadays, and why not. | |||
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"So where do we stop, do we ban terms like Hotwife because it pertains to the protected characteristics of marriage and being female, or MILF because it pertains again the characteristic of being female and age, or BBW because again it relates to females and potentially health, or…….well you get my drift. As a couple we are courteous respectful people in all aspects of our life, but really, this is a swinging site and the swinging lifestyle has a well understood and largely accepted lexicon of descriptive terms. We all understand the positive context they are used in and knowing full well that it is not to promote any negative connotations that the terminology might otherwise have out in the wild. Increasingly society is seeking to police language in a way which is oppressive and antithetical to free speech, just look at the insanity on social media over the whole radical trans issue. We need to be less precious and understand that in a community like this people generally mean well and are using language in its fun sexual sense rather than to cause offence or attack protected characteristics. Just respect that not everyone will like to be called these terms. And respect their right to be offended. And then just stick to the people that are a good match. If you want to sleep with a Black guy that doesn’t like the term BBC then just don’t use it? If someone indicates they are uncomfortable with with a term then naturally we will respect that, we are not phillistines. That said, there is altogether too much hand wringing going on these days. Oh, and to conclude, we never use the term BBC because it is not a thing for us, but we are happy with people calling Mrs S a Hotwife, MILF, etc, frankly people can knock themselves out using whatever terms they want. People choose to be insulted or choose to feel the insult for others - they have the problem" Thanks, society is so exhausting these days, there are so many joyless people seeking to police every aspect of our life, which is somewhat ironic when it creeps into a site like this. | |||
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" Is it really? I saw a thread only the other day where women were expressing their discomfort being referred to by those terms for largely the same reasons such as focussing on a physical characteristic or appearance, sex, age, in other words a number of protected characteristics. Women have faced terrible discrimination in the past, and still do in many places around the world, and have fought for many decades to battle such prejudice and achieve equality. So maybe not so different after all?! As as been said before, for me it's the dehumanising nature of the term which reduces the guy to his appendage, which you don't get with terms such as Pawg, BBW, Milf or hotwife. In each of those names the person is still evident (girl in Pawg, woman in BBW, Mother in Milf etc) I have no problem with saying I have a BBC (though I'd never say that) but I'm definitely not a BBC. If I messaged a husband saying I'd like a go on your tight wet pussy, referring to his wife, do you see where the problem is? " So you simply avoid the profiles asking for BBC. I don't see a problem. | |||
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"So, to those that find the term BBC offensive. How do you feel about BMFC, not just the term but the whole fetish behind it and those that engage in it ? Some of you don't like the term BBC because it reduces the man to his genitals and the historical connotations behind it, but it still doesn't change that you're being seeked out for your genitals no matter what term is being used by couples and females for NSA in 2023. What about men that's seeking females/couples for NSA aren't you seeking them for their genitals, if you break it down that's what this discussion is about ? Some men do not like the thought that they are being seeked out for his genitals but we're all here, on fab seeking genitals lol. I have seen explanation like "I just see hot guys n gals" yes, that's all well and good but your still seeking his cock!" The ego can be very defensive... Maybe, just maybe it might be about size. The average black man has a big cock the average white man doesn't. This is a positive stereotype for black guys and a negative stereotype for white. And what is PAWG? | |||
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"So, to those that find the term BBC offensive. How do you feel about BMFC, not just the term but the whole fetish behind it and those that engage in it ? Some of you don't like the term BBC because it reduces the man to his genitals and the historical connotations behind it, but it still doesn't change that you're being seeked out for your genitals no matter what term is being used by couples and females for NSA in 2023. What about men that's seeking females/couples for NSA aren't you seeking them for their genitals, if you break it down that's what this discussion is about ? Some men do not like the thought that they are being seeked out for his genitals but we're all here, on fab seeking genitals lol. I have seen explanation like "I just see hot guys n gals" yes, that's all well and good but your still seeking his cock! The ego can be very defensive... Maybe, just maybe it might be about size. The average black man has a big cock the average white man doesn't. This is a positive stereotype for black guys and a negative stereotype for white. And what is PAWG?" Can you really not see a difference between someone seeking a big black cock and someone seeking a man who happens to have a big black cock? | |||
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"So, to those that find the term BBC offensive. How do you feel about BMFC, not just the term but the whole fetish behind it and those that engage in it ? Some of you don't like the term BBC because it reduces the man to his genitals and the historical connotations behind it, but it still doesn't change that you're being seeked out for your genitals no matter what term is being used by couples and females for NSA in 2023. What about men that's seeking females/couples for NSA aren't you seeking them for their genitals, if you break it down that's what this discussion is about ? Some men do not like the thought that they are being seeked out for his genitals but we're all here, on fab seeking genitals lol. I have seen explanation like "I just see hot guys n gals" yes, that's all well and good but your still seeking his cock! The ego can be very defensive... Maybe, just maybe it might be about size. The average black man has a big cock the average white man doesn't. This is a positive stereotype for black guys and a negative stereotype for white. And what is PAWG? Can you really not see a difference between someone seeking a big black cock and someone seeking a man who happens to have a big black cock?" Of course I can. Personally I'm here for the person not the size or colour of his cock (excluding green). I just don't judge others by MY yardstick (knowledge and experience), I'm happy to let others ask for what they want, how they want! If you don't like someone's profile, stop bleating about it and go past it. There are many others. | |||
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"So you simply avoid the profiles asking for BBC. I don't see a problem." **Facepalm** I think you (and others in this thread) are trying far too hard not to see where a problem may lie. | |||
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"So you simply avoid the profiles asking for BBC. I don't see a problem. **Facepalm** I think you (and others in this thread) are trying far too hard not to see where a problem may lie. " Disagree with you. If you've read my other posts you'll see exactly what I'm getting at. If I start bleating about people being racist, or dehumanising/ fetishising others, what help is that to you? Besides, just cos it appears racist doesn't mean that's the intention. To repeat myself it's a shortcut to what they offer or want! Any other view is taking on board insults frankly, is that person's choice. | |||
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"So, to those that find the term BBC offensive. How do you feel about BMFC, not just the term but the whole fetish behind it and those that engage in it ? Some of you don't like the term BBC because it reduces the man to his genitals and the historical connotations behind it, but it still doesn't change that you're being seeked out for your genitals no matter what term is being used by couples and females for NSA in 2023. What about men that's seeking females/couples for NSA aren't you seeking them for their genitals, if you break it down that's what this discussion is about ? Some men do not like the thought that they are being seeked out for his genitals but we're all here, on fab seeking genitals lol. I have seen explanation like "I just see hot guys n gals" yes, that's all well and good but your still seeking his cock! The ego can be very defensive... Maybe, just maybe it might be about size. The average black man has a big cock the average white man doesn't. This is a positive stereotype for black guys and a negative stereotype for white. And what is PAWG?" P.W.A.G Stands for Phat Arse White Girl | |||
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"We don't prefer to use this term and if we see it in people's profile we don't entertain. Black men are more than their cocks! "That's obvious. Why do we have to explain this ? people are too sensitive  | |||
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"We don't prefer to use this term and if we see it in people's profile we don't entertain. Black men are more than their cocks!
That's obvious. Why do we have to explain this ? people are too sensitive "I have to agreed. There is much about swinging (for example, rejection) that isn’t for the thin skinned. If terms like “bbc” offend you, that is okay. If you don’t want to meet those who use the term that is also okay. It is really all fine as there will always be someone, someones, who meet your taste. And rest assured the people who don’t meet your taste are busy fucking their choices-as you are fucking those who meet your preferences. | |||
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"So, to those that find the term BBC offensive. How do you feel about BMFC, not just the term but the whole fetish behind it and those that engage in it ? Some of you don't like the term BBC because it reduces the man to his genitals and the historical connotations behind it, but it still doesn't change that you're being seeked out for your genitals no matter what term is being used by couples and females for NSA in 2023. What about men that's seeking females/couples for NSA aren't you seeking them for their genitals, if you break it down that's what this discussion is about ? Some men do not like the thought that they are being seeked out for his genitals but we're all here, on fab seeking genitals lol. I have seen explanation like "I just see hot guys n gals" yes, that's all well and good but your still seeking his cock! The ego can be very defensive... Maybe, just maybe it might be about size. The average black man has a big cock the average white man doesn't. This is a positive stereotype for black guys and a negative stereotype for white. And what is PAWG? P.W.A.G Stands for Phat Arse White Girl" Yeah I googled. But the definition of phat was big. I thought phat meant "mighty fine"  | |||
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"We don't prefer to use this term and if we see it in people's profile we don't entertain. Black men are more than their cocks!
That's obvious. Why do we have to explain this ? people are too sensitive
I have to agreed. There is much about swinging (for example, rejection) that isn’t for the thin skinned. If terms like “bbc” offend you, that is okay. If you don’t want to meet those who use the term that is also okay. It is really all fine as there will always be someone, someones, who meet your taste. And rest assured the people who don’t meet your taste are busy fucking their choices-as you are fucking those who meet your preferences. "Myth
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"As a black man or man of colour that uses the term and has the term in his username. I think it comes down to the individual. I would not use the term in everyday life obviously, but I think on a sex site we are all reduced to our body parts in some way or the other, it is the first thing we see and what we are attracted to in the opposite person's. BBW reduces women to their size, P.W.A.G reduces white women to their arse size and whiteness, same as BWC your reducing him to his cock and whiteness. Even the term "hung" and "black" or "white" It's all the same. Your on a sex site to meet and have sex, engage in something different out of your everyday life. I think people are a bit too sensitive. Your upset with a term because you think your being used for your cock ! Hello ! We are all being used on this site by each other ! That's my take on it." | |||
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I'm not saying it wrong to only be attracted to a particular race, you can't help who/what you're attracted to, but to not care about anything other then skin colour is weird to me. | |||
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"I'm definitely an odd woman. Personally, I've never liked the term bbc, it's only now that I'm seeing bwc being used that I don't mind it as much. I know that for a lot of women bbc is a fetish and all they're interested in but not every Black man is well endowed, it confuses me how so many women are happy to have sex with any man for no other reason than the colour of their cock, they aren't interested in what the man looks like, sounds like or is like. Just because a man is bigger then average doesn't mean that they are any good in bed and there are sooooo many non Black men that have Big cocks. Then again, I'm the type of woman that always asks non Black guys why they want to meet me, 90% of the time I get the "I've never fucked/I've always wanted to try a Black girl" that's an automatic block. I find it extremely disrespectful.
I'm not saying it wrong to only be attracted to a particular race, you can't help who/what you're attracted to, but to not care about anything other then skin colour is weird to me."We don't care about colour. As long as the person looks after themselves, is nice looking, has a great personality, who likes to have a laugh and all round good time, we will get along well with them. Mrs does like a good size cock tho  | |||
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"Besides, just cos it appears racist doesn't mean that's the intention. " I’m not sure this really holds up, if I accidentally break someone’s nose their nose is still broken, regardless of intent. | |||
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"So, to those that find the term BBC offensive. How do you feel about BMFC, not just the term but the whole fetish behind it and those that engage in it ? Some of you don't like the term BBC because it reduces the man to his genitals and the historical connotations behind it, but it still doesn't change that you're being seeked out for your genitals no matter what term is being used by couples and females for NSA in 2023. What about men that's seeking females/couples for NSA aren't you seeking them for their genitals, if you break it down that's what this discussion is about ? Some men do not like the thought that they are being seeked out for his genitals but we're all here, on fab seeking genitals lol. I have seen explanation like "I just see hot guys n gals" yes, that's all well and good but your still seeking his cock! The ego can be very defensive... Maybe, just maybe it might be about size. The average black man has a big cock the average white man doesn't. This is a positive stereotype for black guys and a negative stereotype for white. And what is PAWG? P.W.A.G Stands for Phat Arse White Girl" A term originally coined largely by black men. And they say its not comparable | |||
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"Besides, just cos it appears racist doesn't mean that's the intention. I’m not sure this really holds up, if I accidentally break someone’s nose their nose is still broken, regardless of intent." That’s a false equivalence. You are ignoring all the other valid points about context and intent. Should I be offended if on this site someone calls me a MILF, GILF, Hotwife, etc. Should larger ladies be offended when they are referred to as BBW, a term btw created by the body positives community? It’s a swinging site for heavens sake and that is the context these terms are used in. We respect people’s preferences and as it happens do not use the term, but I defend people’s free speech. This whole language police thing is getting out of hand. | |||
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"So, to those that find the term BBC offensive. How do you feel about BMFC, not just the term but the whole fetish behind it and those that engage in it ? Some of you don't like the term BBC because it reduces the man to his genitals and the historical connotations behind it, but it still doesn't change that you're being seeked out for your genitals no matter what term is being used by couples and females for NSA in 2023. What about men that's seeking females/couples for NSA aren't you seeking them for their genitals, if you break it down that's what this discussion is about ? Some men do not like the thought that they are being seeked out for his genitals but we're all here, on fab seeking genitals lol. I have seen explanation like "I just see hot guys n gals" yes, that's all well and good but your still seeking his cock! The ego can be very defensive... Maybe, just maybe it might be about size. The average black man has a big cock the average white man doesn't. This is a positive stereotype for black guys and a negative stereotype for white. And what is PAWG? P.W.A.G Stands for Phat Arse White Girl A term originally coined largely by black men. And they say its not comparable "It isn’t. Read a history book | |||
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"So, to those that find the term BBC offensive. How do you feel about BMFC, not just the term but the whole fetish behind it and those that engage in it ? Some of you don't like the term BBC because it reduces the man to his genitals and the historical connotations behind it, but it still doesn't change that you're being seeked out for your genitals no matter what term is being used by couples and females for NSA in 2023. What about men that's seeking females/couples for NSA aren't you seeking them for their genitals, if you break it down that's what this discussion is about ? Some men do not like the thought that they are being seeked out for his genitals but we're all here, on fab seeking genitals lol. I have seen explanation like "I just see hot guys n gals" yes, that's all well and good but your still seeking his cock! The ego can be very defensive... Maybe, just maybe it might be about size. The average black man has a big cock the average white man doesn't. This is a positive stereotype for black guys and a negative stereotype for white. And what is PAWG? P.W.A.G Stands for Phat Arse White Girl A term originally coined largely by black men. And they say its not comparable
It isn’t. Read a history book"It is when the BBC term is used in a complimentary manner. It's exactly comparable. Racist characterized by or showing prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized. I highly doubt there is a person who is seeking BBC on this site using the term as described in the dictionary. | |||
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"As a black man or man of colour that uses the term and has the term in his username. I think it comes down to the individual. I would not use the term in everyday life obviously, but I think on a sex site we are all reduced to our body parts in some way or the other, it is the first thing we see and what we are attracted to in the opposite person's. BBW reduces women to their size, P.W.A.G reduces white women to their arse size and whiteness, same as BWC your reducing him to his cock and whiteness. Even the term "hung" and "black" or "white" It's all the same. Your on a sex site to meet and have sex, engage in something different out of your everyday life. I think people are a bit too sensitive. Your upset with a term because you think your being used for your cock ! Hello ! We are all being used on this site by each other ! That's my take on it. I think it’s unfair to say that’s why people are upset about it when on the last thread it was explained (by other Black people) that for some people it has more to do with the fact the term is rooted in racist stereotypes and racist violent history than the reduction of a man to his penis. You’re more than welcome to use it yourself but like, I don’t think it’s fair to ignore that aspect of people disliking it. " | |||
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"So, to those that find the term BBC offensive. How do you feel about BMFC, not just the term but the whole fetish behind it and those that engage in it ? Some of you don't like the term BBC because it reduces the man to his genitals and the historical connotations behind it, but it still doesn't change that you're being seeked out for your genitals no matter what term is being used by couples and females for NSA in 2023. What about men that's seeking females/couples for NSA aren't you seeking them for their genitals, if you break it down that's what this discussion is about ? Some men do not like the thought that they are being seeked out for his genitals but we're all here, on fab seeking genitals lol. I have seen explanation like "I just see hot guys n gals" yes, that's all well and good but your still seeking his cock! The ego can be very defensive... Maybe, just maybe it might be about size. The average black man has a big cock the average white man doesn't. This is a positive stereotype for black guys and a negative stereotype for white. And what is PAWG? P.W.A.G Stands for Phat Arse White Girl A term originally coined largely by black men. And they say its not comparable
It isn’t. Read a history book
It is when the BBC term is used in a complimentary manner. It's exactly comparable.
Racist
characterized by or showing prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
I highly doubt there is a person who is seeking BBC on this site using the term as described in the dictionary.
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"Not entirely known where the use of PAWG first originated, but it’s widely believed that it may have developed through rap music in the early 2000s. However, it may also have been first utilized by the adult film industry, as somewhere along the line this term and its main definition became assimilated into this industry as a way to draw attention to women of a certain body shape.
There was a span of time where the term wasn’t recorded in usage online until it returned to social media in the early 2010s as a way to bring attention to images depicting a “PAWG body shape.”
Because PAWG was used to bring attention to specific female bodies, the term is tied up with racist and sexist assumptions and cannot be used without consideration of this connection. If you are considering using the word PAWG, you should first examine the problematic stereotypes and damaging meaning behind it"
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"So, to those that find the term BBC offensive. How do you feel about BMFC, not just the term but the whole fetish behind it and those that engage in it ? Some of you don't like the term BBC because it reduces the man to his genitals and the historical connotations behind it, but it still doesn't change that you're being seeked out for your genitals no matter what term is being used by couples and females for NSA in 2023. What about men that's seeking females/couples for NSA aren't you seeking them for their genitals, if you break it down that's what this discussion is about ? Some men do not like the thought that they are being seeked out for his genitals but we're all here, on fab seeking genitals lol. I have seen explanation like "I just see hot guys n gals" yes, that's all well and good but your still seeking his cock! The ego can be very defensive... Maybe, just maybe it might be about size. The average black man has a big cock the average white man doesn't. This is a positive stereotype for black guys and a negative stereotype for white. And what is PAWG? P.W.A.G Stands for Phat Arse White Girl A term originally coined largely by black men. And they say its not comparable "BS Where did you get that information from? | |||
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"So, to those that find the term BBC offensive. How do you feel about BMFC, not just the term but the whole fetish behind it and those that engage in it ? Some of you don't like the term BBC because it reduces the man to his genitals and the historical connotations behind it, but it still doesn't change that you're being seeked out for your genitals no matter what term is being used by couples and females for NSA in 2023. What about men that's seeking females/couples for NSA aren't you seeking them for their genitals, if you break it down that's what this discussion is about ? Some men do not like the thought that they are being seeked out for his genitals but we're all here, on fab seeking genitals lol. I have seen explanation like "I just see hot guys n gals" yes, that's all well and good but your still seeking his cock! The ego can be very defensive... Maybe, just maybe it might be about size. The average black man has a big cock the average white man doesn't. This is a positive stereotype for black guys and a negative stereotype for white. And what is PAWG? P.W.A.G Stands for Phat Arse White Girl A term originally coined largely by black men. And they say its not comparable
BS Where did you get that information from?"What's bullshit? See Amelias post and you'll see what I already thought. Unless you have other info? | |||
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"So, to those that find the term BBC offensive. How do you feel about BMFC, not just the term but the whole fetish behind it and those that engage in it ? Some of you don't like the term BBC because it reduces the man to his genitals and the historical connotations behind it, but it still doesn't change that you're being seeked out for your genitals no matter what term is being used by couples and females for NSA in 2023. What about men that's seeking females/couples for NSA aren't you seeking them for their genitals, if you break it down that's what this discussion is about ? Some men do not like the thought that they are being seeked out for his genitals but we're all here, on fab seeking genitals lol. I have seen explanation like "I just see hot guys n gals" yes, that's all well and good but your still seeking his cock! The ego can be very defensive... Maybe, just maybe it might be about size. The average black man has a big cock the average white man doesn't. This is a positive stereotype for black guys and a negative stereotype for white. And what is PAWG? P.W.A.G Stands for Phat Arse White Girl A term originally coined largely by black men. And they say its not comparable
BS Where did you get that information from?
What's bullshit?
See Amelias post and you'll see what I already thought. Unless you have other info?"Bottom line is WE don't accept the term BBC. Personal choice. | |||
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"So, to those that find the term BBC offensive. How do you feel about BMFC, not just the term but the whole fetish behind it and those that engage in it ? Some of you don't like the term BBC because it reduces the man to his genitals and the historical connotations behind it, but it still doesn't change that you're being seeked out for your genitals no matter what term is being used by couples and females for NSA in 2023. What about men that's seeking females/couples for NSA aren't you seeking them for their genitals, if you break it down that's what this discussion is about ? Some men do not like the thought that they are being seeked out for his genitals but we're all here, on fab seeking genitals lol. I have seen explanation like "I just see hot guys n gals" yes, that's all well and good but your still seeking his cock! The ego can be very defensive... Maybe, just maybe it might be about size. The average black man has a big cock the average white man doesn't. This is a positive stereotype for black guys and a negative stereotype for white. And what is PAWG? P.W.A.G Stands for Phat Arse White Girl A term originally coined largely by black men. And they say its not comparable
BS Where did you get that information from?
What's bullshit?
See Amelias post and you'll see what I already thought. Unless you have other info?
Bottom line is WE don't accept the term BBC. Personal choice. "You don't have to accept it? I don't think anyone has said otherwise. | |||
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"As a black man or man of colour that uses the term and has the term in his username. I think it comes down to the individual. I would not use the term in everyday life obviously, but I think on a sex site we are all reduced to our body parts in some way or the other, it is the first thing we see and what we are attracted to in the opposite person's. BBW reduces women to their size, P.W.A.G reduces white women to their arse size and whiteness, same as BWC your reducing him to his cock and whiteness. Even the term "hung" and "black" or "white" It's all the same. Your on a sex site to meet and have sex, engage in something different out of your everyday life. I think people are a bit too sensitive. Your upset with a term because you think your being used for your cock ! Hello ! We are all being used on this site by each other ! That's my take on it. This is probably the best answer I have seen in the forum's. " | |||
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"I couldn’t of contextualized this better! Just because most of the white people on here don’t get what all the fuss is about and can’t see why the term could be offensive- doesn’t mean it’s not offensive. It’s hilarious how white people love to tell black people what they are or aren’t allowed to be offended by. " Exactly | |||
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"My preference is black men. I am also a bit of a size queen. But its not just about the "bbc" it's also about who it's attached to. I've asked lots of black guys about this and the only negative I've had back off them is when the person attached to the "bbc" isn't found important or to matter. They have a BBC but they're not JUST a BBC." Exactly | |||
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"So, to those that find the term BBC offensive. How do you feel about BMFC, not just the term but the whole fetish behind it and those that engage in it ? Some of you don't like the term BBC because it reduces the man to his genitals and the historical connotations behind it, but it still doesn't change that you're being seeked out for your genitals no matter what term is being used by couples and females for NSA in 2023. What about men that's seeking females/couples for NSA aren't you seeking them for their genitals, if you break it down that's what this discussion is about ? Some men do not like the thought that they are being seeked out for his genitals but we're all here, on fab seeking genitals lol. I have seen explanation like "I just see hot guys n gals" yes, that's all well and good but your still seeking his cock!" However its not being devalued BMFC is about some women's preference for a Black man. Nothing wrong that. But thinking it's okay to call every Black man BBC is wrong. You like it..knock yourself out but not all us Black men are on board with that crap. | |||
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"I couldn’t of contextualized this better! Just because most of the white people on here don’t get what all the fuss is about and can’t see why the term could be offensive- doesn’t mean it’s not offensive. It’s hilarious how white people love to tell black people what they are or aren’t allowed to be offended by. " Who is stating you can't be offended? If you want to be offended then fill your boots. In the context of this site, use of profiles and language, it's a shortcut to express what you want or what you're offering. Do you get offended by black guys offering their big black cocks? You know it's their choice and the intent is obvious - no historical or racial connotation! | |||
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"I couldn’t of contextualized this better! Just because most of the white people on here don’t get what all the fuss is about and can’t see why the term could be offensive- doesn’t mean it’s not offensive. It’s hilarious how white people love to tell black people what they are or aren’t allowed to be offended by. " | |||
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"I couldn’t of contextualized this better! Just because most of the white people on here don’t get what all the fuss is about and can’t see why the term could be offensive- doesn’t mean it’s not offensive. It’s hilarious how white people love to tell black people what they are or aren’t allowed to be offended by. "I don't think anyone's telling anyone what they should or shouldn't be offended by. Perhaps there is some confusion given the fact that quite a lot of black guys who have profiles on here make some kind of reference to BBC in the profile if not their username! | |||
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"I couldn’t of contextualized this better! Just because most of the white people on here don’t get what all the fuss is about and can’t see why the term could be offensive- doesn’t mean it’s not offensive. It’s hilarious how white people love to tell black people what they are or aren’t allowed to be offended by.
I don't think anyone's telling anyone what they should or shouldn't be offended by.
Perhaps there is some confusion given the fact that quite a lot of black guys who have profiles on here make some kind of reference to BBC in the profile if not their username!"............................ ...and this is part of the issue, black men referencing themselves this way legitimises the use of the term universally to describe black men, when many self respecting black men dislike the term as they are much more than just a 'big, black cock'. They've outnumbered the black men men defending the term on this thread, yet people are ignoring them and still defending its use. I remember a black man describing an interaction with a white couple who had 'no BBC' on their profile. He (playfully) contacted them asking if they'd consider him because his cock was only of average size. Their garish response was to harangue him, pointing out their profile said they didn't meet black men, clearly missing the point of his message and the crass meaning of BBC. | |||
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"I couldn’t of contextualized this better! Just because most of the white people on here don’t get what all the fuss is about and can’t see why the term could be offensive- doesn’t mean it’s not offensive. It’s hilarious how white people love to tell black people what they are or aren’t allowed to be offended by.
I don't think anyone's telling anyone what they should or shouldn't be offended by.
Perhaps there is some confusion given the fact that quite a lot of black guys who have profiles on here make some kind of reference to BBC in the profile if not their username!
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...and this is part of the issue, black men referencing themselves this way legitimises the use of the term universally to describe black men, when many self respecting black men dislike the term as they are much more than just a 'big, black cock'.
They've outnumbered the black men men defending the term on this thread, yet people are ignoring them and still defending its use.
I remember a black man describing an interaction with a white couple who had 'no BBC' on their profile.
He (playfully) contacted them asking if they'd consider him because his cock was only of average size.
Their garish response was to harangue him, pointing out their profile said they didn't meet black men, clearly missing the point of his message and the crass meaning of BBC."So your saying that I do not respect myself ?! | |||
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"I couldn’t of contextualized this better! Just because most of the white people on here don’t get what all the fuss is about and can’t see why the term could be offensive- doesn’t mean it’s not offensive. It’s hilarious how white people love to tell black people what they are or aren’t allowed to be offended by.
I don't think anyone's telling anyone what they should or shouldn't be offended by.
Perhaps there is some confusion given the fact that quite a lot of black guys who have profiles on here make some kind of reference to BBC in the profile if not their username!
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...and this is part of the issue, black men referencing themselves this way legitimises the use of the term universally to describe black men, when many self respecting black men dislike the term as they are much more than just a 'big, black cock'.
They've outnumbered the black men men defending the term on this thread, yet people are ignoring them and still defending its use.
I remember a black man describing an interaction with a white couple who had 'no BBC' on their profile.
He (playfully) contacted them asking if they'd consider him because his cock was only of average size.
Their garish response was to harangue him, pointing out their profile said they didn't meet black men, clearly missing the point of his message and the crass meaning of BBC."I think you should go recount. The black men who do not like the term may well have outnumbered on posts (they're louder, people who get offended usually are) but certainly not the number of different posters. | |||
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"I couldn’t of contextualized this better! Just because most of the white people on here don’t get what all the fuss is about and can’t see why the term could be offensive- doesn’t mean it’s not offensive. It’s hilarious how white people love to tell black people what they are or aren’t allowed to be offended by.
I don't think anyone's telling anyone what they should or shouldn't be offended by.
Perhaps there is some confusion given the fact that quite a lot of black guys who have profiles on here make some kind of reference to BBC in the profile if not their username!
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...and this is part of the issue, black men referencing themselves this way legitimises the use of the term universally to describe black men, when many self respecting black men dislike the term as they are much more than just a 'big, black cock'.
They've outnumbered the black men men defending the term on this thread, yet people are ignoring them and still defending its use.
I remember a black man describing an interaction with a white couple who had 'no BBC' on their profile.
He (playfully) contacted them asking if they'd consider him because his cock was only of average size.
Their garish response was to harangue him, pointing out their profile said they didn't meet black men, clearly missing the point of his message and the crass meaning of BBC.
I think you should go recount. The black men who do not like the term may well have outnumbered on posts (they're louder, people who get offended usually are) but certainly not the number of different posters."........................... Interesting you being offended by black men being offended by a term used to describe them. | |||
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"I couldn’t of contextualized this better! Just because most of the white people on here don’t get what all the fuss is about and can’t see why the term could be offensive- doesn’t mean it’s not offensive. It’s hilarious how white people love to tell black people what they are or aren’t allowed to be offended by.
I don't think anyone's telling anyone what they should or shouldn't be offended by.
Perhaps there is some confusion given the fact that quite a lot of black guys who have profiles on here make some kind of reference to BBC in the profile if not their username!
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...and this is part of the issue, black men referencing themselves this way legitimises the use of the term universally to describe black men, when many self respecting black men dislike the term as they are much more than just a 'big, black cock'.
They've outnumbered the black men men defending the term on this thread, yet people are ignoring them and still defending its use.
I remember a black man describing an interaction with a white couple who had 'no BBC' on their profile.
He (playfully) contacted them asking if they'd consider him because his cock was only of average size.
Their garish response was to harangue him, pointing out their profile said they didn't meet black men, clearly missing the point of his message and the crass meaning of BBC.
I think you should go recount. The black men who do not like the term may well have outnumbered on posts (they're louder, people who get offended usually are) but certainly not the number of different posters.
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"For those of you vigorously defending the use of this, try “I am looking for a black man with a big cock” instead of “I am looking for BBC”. There, fixed it for you. The difference is confusing “they have” for “they are”. To say it doesn’t come with historical connotations and its associated objectification and often deadly result from that objectification, belies a lack of education/miseducation on the subject or plain perniciousness. It’s just not convincing enough to say some black men use it on themselves, so you are justified in using it indiscriminately, even towards those who don’t like that acronym. If in doubt, just focus on here that acronym originated from - the porn industry with its harmful tropes. Would you be so cavalier with the N-word? Nope. How can people not see the nuance in this? " I can clearly see the objectification but not the historical connotations. Bottom line we're not all going to agree. And BBC will continue to be used by those who have one and by those who want one. Everything else is a moot point. | |||
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"For those of you vigorously defending the use of this, try “I am looking for a black man with a big cock” instead of “I am looking for BBC”. There, fixed it for you. The difference is confusing “they have” for “they are”. To say it doesn’t come with historical connotations and its associated objectification and often deadly result from that objectification, belies a lack of education/miseducation on the subject or plain perniciousness. It’s just not convincing enough to say some black men use it on themselves, so you are justified in using it indiscriminately, even towards those who don’t like that acronym. If in doubt, just focus on here that acronym originated from - the porn industry with its harmful tropes. Would you be so cavalier with the N-word? Nope. How can people not see the nuance in this? I can clearly see the objectification but not the historical connotations. Bottom line we're not all going to agree. And BBC will continue to be used by those who have one and by those who want one. Everything else is a moot point." I didn’t set out to convince anyone to agree. My experience often tells me I shouldn’t waste my time attempting to do so. I suspect those who get the nuance get it, and those who don’t either don’t get it for the reasons I stated above or just chosen an ideological position based on “I’ll do or say what I want” cos I don’t like where the message is coming from. But it’s surprising that you see the objectification but somehow stop at the historical connotations. I suggest you do some research on that. Anyway, you have your point and I have mine. | |||
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"For those of you vigorously defending the use of this, try “I am looking for a black man with a big cock” instead of “I am looking for BBC”. There, fixed it for you. The difference is confusing “they have” for “they are”. To say it doesn’t come with historical connotations and its associated objectification and often deadly result from that objectification, belies a lack of education/miseducation on the subject or plain perniciousness. It’s just not convincing enough to say some black men use it on themselves, so you are justified in using it indiscriminately, even towards those who don’t like that acronym. If in doubt, just focus on here that acronym originated from - the porn industry with its harmful tropes. Would you be so cavalier with the N-word? Nope. How can people not see the nuance in this? I can clearly see the objectification but not the historical connotations. Bottom line we're not all going to agree. And BBC will continue to be used by those who have one and by those who want one. Everything else is a moot point." Those that want one should be prepared to face displeasure at use of the term. A fact is that people approach Black people on here that don’t use the label and don’t like it. These conversations aren’t just about advertising in bios and in threads which you can ignore. | |||
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"Those that want one should be prepared to face displeasure at use of the term." And that is the whole point of this thread isn't it? The OP asked what the issue is, and numerous people have explained their issues with it, yet there'll always be people who won't accept these misgivings purely to say 'people should be allowed to say whatever they want' regardless of if it does offend some people | |||
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"Bottom line we're not all going to agree. And BBC will continue to be used by those who have one and by those who want one. Everything else is a moot point." Isn’t this akin to saying there will always be bigots being bigoted so let’s not bother trying to get rid of bigotry? These lines are generally put forward by people who generally benefit from the status quo and therefore really don’t want it to change. There have been numerous eloquent statements on here, from black people, about why they find the term BBC offensive, yet people choose not to take note of those. It’s not a big adjustment to start saying “I’d like to meet a black man with a big cock” rather than “I’d like to meet a BBC” yet some people seem very set against it. That leads me to question their motives. | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. " ................................. Have you followed the thread? The issue isn't necessarily having a racial preference, it's how it's expressed. BBC is often used to describe a human being (as you have done in your post) rather than their genitals. Ps you may also have missed the erudite contributions from black men on this thread who object to being described this way. | |||
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"Bad or historical connotations, knowing your audience is the important thing, someone comfortable with the term. The terms slut, whore, prost**itute, fuck, cunt, and a host of other words have the same connotation as BBC all of which have a sexual connotation, which differentiates them from the N-word. Comparing apples to oranges. Everyone is objectified and everyone objectifies others in their initial contact. Objectifying one another can be a good ....or bad thing, as it can bring about a heightened sense of pleasure and passion or a heightened sense of displeasure. The mere posting of images invites objectifying. it is all about "personal" boundaries and being aware of that individual boundaries not to cross them. Funny enough, the word prost**itute isn't allowed on the forum. " You have saved me time as to why I get the objectification. Historically black people have had it bad (and yes I know racism still exists), historically women have had it bad (misogyny exists but sexism has reduced and a wife being property with no legal rights I hope is almost nonexistent). I could go on about the working class or underclass. And it wouldn't stretch anyone's imagination to see that historically the working class black woman has had it hardest. But the context of this site is that you're portraying your wares and wants contemporaneously. You will probably upset someone but as long as your profile is within the site's rules, you're fine. I actually feel sorry people get upset by others' words, especially on the internet. They get angry/sad/frustrated etc. Well the healthiest way to deal with it is recognise the emotion, acknowledge the emotion, react in a safe and brief manner, then let it go. Even if the intention was good/ignorant/bad, let it go. For your sanity, no-one else's. We all have sh1t in our lives. But some sh1t you can choose to overcome. | |||
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"if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance." Here's a thought, why don't you concentrate on trying to make yourself more than average and more appealing to women instead of blaming others? And maybe focusing less on profiles that aren't looking for you, much like I do with the many 'No Blacks' profiles? If no one wants to meet you mate, it's probably not just because they'd rather play with a black guy | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. ................................. Have you followed the thread? The issue isn't necessarily having a racial preference, it's how it's expressed. BBC is often used to describe a human being (as you have done in your post) rather than their genitals. Ps you may also have missed the erudite contributions from black men on this thread who object to being described this way." Was just coming to say this honestly | |||
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"if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Here's a thought, why don't you concentrate on trying to make yourself more than average and more appealing to women instead of blaming others? And maybe focusing less on profiles that aren't looking for you, much like I do with the many 'No Blacks' profiles? If no one wants to meet you mate, it's probably not just because they'd rather play with a black guy "Facts | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. " Well this is rhe biggest load of bullshit I've read in the forums for a while | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. Well this is rhe biggest load of bullshit I've read in the forums for a while " Stay tuned,I'm sure there's shitloads more to come | |||
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"if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Here's a thought, why don't you concentrate on trying to make yourself more than average and more appealing to women instead of blaming others? And maybe focusing less on profiles that aren't looking for you, much like I do with the many 'No Blacks' profiles? If no one wants to meet you mate, it's probably not just because they'd rather play with a black guy "Precisely this. | |||
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"Bottom line we're not all going to agree. And BBC will continue to be used by those who have one and by those who want one. Everything else is a moot point. Isn’t this akin to saying there will always be bigots being bigoted so let’s not bother trying to get rid of bigotry? These lines are generally put forward by people who generally benefit from the status quo and therefore really don’t want it to change. There have been numerous eloquent statements on here, from black people, about why they find the term BBC offensive, yet people choose not to take note of those. It’s not a big adjustment to start saying “I’d like to meet a black man with a big cock” rather than “I’d like to meet a BBC” yet some people seem very set against it. That leads me to question their motives." Absolutely facts! How this nuance continues to be missed is beyond me. The constant gas-lighting of a lot of black men who are actually telling mostly white people that the term is offensive as it often used to describe THE person rather than what that person HAS, and brings up an uncomfortable and troubled racial history, says a lot about our society today. So people want to get their fantasies and rocks off, so let’s not talk about it as it’s “harmless” is BS! And definitely reinforces the pattern of gaslighting that black people are subjected to on almost everything. It’s fine if some black guy says they are fine with it, but verify from your actual connection with them, instead of assuming it’s OK for all black men, and then sending initial messages referring to them as that. | |||
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"Bottom line we're not all going to agree. And BBC will continue to be used by those who have one and by those who want one. Everything else is a moot point. Isn’t this akin to saying there will always be bigots being bigoted so let’s not bother trying to get rid of bigotry? These lines are generally put forward by people who generally benefit from the status quo and therefore really don’t want it to change. There have been numerous eloquent statements on here, from black people, about why they find the term BBC offensive, yet people choose not to take note of those. It’s not a big adjustment to start saying “I’d like to meet a black man with a big cock” rather than “I’d like to meet a BBC” yet some people seem very set against it. That leads me to question their motives. Absolutely facts! How this nuance continues to be missed is beyond me. The constant gas-lighting of a lot of black men who are actually telling mostly white people that the term is offensive as it often used to describe THE person rather than what that person HAS, and brings up an uncomfortable and troubled racial history, says a lot about our society today. So people want to get their fantasies and rocks off, so let’s not talk about it as it’s “harmless” is BS! And definitely reinforces the pattern of gaslighting that black people are subjected to on almost everything. It’s fine if some black guy says they are fine with it, but verify from your actual connection with them, instead of assuming it’s OK for all black men, and then sending initial messages referring to them as that." .................................. | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. " Tell me you didn’t read people’s comments without telling me you didn’t read people comments!
Firstly, a good number of black men who have a sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions despise the term too, so not just some white people.
Secondly, the scene is not only hard for some white men but also for all kinds of men. No one talks about how hard Asian (in the context of the continent and not just what we mean by Asian in the UK) men have it on Fab and in vanilla life. There are black men on here too who are also unlucky.
There’s just this all pervading “black cock is big” trope that is actually harmful to not just black men, but also other men - cue, your comments on how that is destroying white men’s confidence.
The truth is some men have big cocks, some medium and some small and it cuts across all colours. To suggest it stacks up along complexion lines is perpetuating the same BS that has gone on for this long. | |||
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"There’s just this all pervading “black cock is big” trope that is actually harmful to not just black men, but also other men - cue, your comments on how that is destroying white men’s confidence. " I'm actually clapping as I type this haha! | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. Tell me you didn’t read people’s comments without telling me you didn’t read people comments!
Firstly, a good number of black men who have a sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions despise the term too, so not just some white people.
Secondly, the scene is not only hard for some white men but also for all kinds of men. No one talks about how hard Asian (in the context of the continent and not just what we mean by Asian in the UK) men have it on Fab and in vanilla life. There are black men on here too who are also unlucky.
There’s just this all pervading “black cock is big” trope that is actually harmful to not just black men, but also other men - cue, your comments on how that is destroying white men’s confidence.
The truth is some men have big cocks, some medium and some small and it cuts across all colours. To suggest it stacks up along complexion lines is perpetuating the same BS that has gone on for this long."So tell me Mr."sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" what you doing on a sex site ? | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. Tell me you didn’t read people’s comments without telling me you didn’t read people comments!
Firstly, a good number of black men who have a sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions despise the term too, so not just some white people.
Secondly, the scene is not only hard for some white men but also for all kinds of men. No one talks about how hard Asian (in the context of the continent and not just what we mean by Asian in the UK) men have it on Fab and in vanilla life. There are black men on here too who are also unlucky.
There’s just this all pervading “black cock is big” trope that is actually harmful to not just black men, but also other men - cue, your comments on how that is destroying white men’s confidence.
The truth is some men have big cocks, some medium and some small and it cuts across all colours. To suggest it stacks up along complexion lines is perpetuating the same BS that has gone on for this long.
So tell me Mr."sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" what you doing on a sex site ? "Maybe explain to me why you think that is mutually exclusive to having a healthy appetite for sex and fun? Is it because you equate that to a sense of morality perhaps? | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. Tell me you didn’t read people’s comments without telling me you didn’t read people comments!
Firstly, a good number of black men who have a sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions despise the term too, so not just some white people.
Secondly, the scene is not only hard for some white men but also for all kinds of men. No one talks about how hard Asian (in the context of the continent and not just what we mean by Asian in the UK) men have it on Fab and in vanilla life. There are black men on here too who are also unlucky.
There’s just this all pervading “black cock is big” trope that is actually harmful to not just black men, but also other men - cue, your comments on how that is destroying white men’s confidence.
The truth is some men have big cocks, some medium and some small and it cuts across all colours. To suggest it stacks up along complexion lines is perpetuating the same BS that has gone on for this long.
So tell me Mr."sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" what you doing on a sex site ?
Maybe explain to me why you think that is mutually exclusive to having a healthy appetite for sex and fun?
Is it because you equate that to a sense of morality perhaps?"I don’t have to explain anything to anyone. You come on here saying who from who does not have sense of self and respect. Seems a bit hypocritical to me. | |||
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"Bottom line we're not all going to agree. And BBC will continue to be used by those who have one and by those who want one. Everything else is a moot point. Isn’t this akin to saying there will always be bigots being bigoted so let’s not bother trying to get rid of bigotry? These lines are generally put forward by people who generally benefit from the status quo and therefore really don’t want it to change. There have been numerous eloquent statements on here, from black people, about why they find the term BBC offensive, yet people choose not to take note of those. It’s not a big adjustment to start saying “I’d like to meet a black man with a big cock” rather than “I’d like to meet a BBC” yet some people seem very set against it. That leads me to question their motives. Absolutely facts! How this nuance continues to be missed is beyond me. The constant gas-lighting of a lot of black men who are actually telling mostly white people that the term is offensive as it often used to describe THE person rather than what that person HAS, and brings up an uncomfortable and troubled racial history, says a lot about our society today. So people want to get their fantasies and rocks off, so let’s not talk about it as it’s “harmless” is BS! And definitely reinforces the pattern of gaslighting that black people are subjected to on almost everything. It’s fine if some black guy says they are fine with it, but verify from your actual connection with them, instead of assuming it’s OK for all black men, and then sending initial messages referring to them as that." Keep talking on the tings bro | |||
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"So how am I to express my preferences without upsetting anyone? I find some black guys very attractive, so find myself drawn to them. However because I am a bit of a size queen I also like very large cocks. Not small or medium but big cocks. So that's means when I am asking to meet BBC, I am not referring to all black guys, I am being very particular. So could I ask to meet a black guy, with a big cock, without it causing offence to black guys in general or black guys who don't match up in my cock requirements? I don't want to upset anyone but I get loads of mail from black guys using the BBC moniker. I also would never use the N word but have had quite a few guys asking me, whilst pounding into me to take their N**** cock or asking if I like their N**** cock, which ialways pretend I never heard. It's a little confusing for me x" ‘I really adore black men, i enjoy meeting them and particularly enjoy meeting very well endowed gents. I am a bit of a size queen and prefer men on the bigger/girthier side.’ | |||
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"So could I ask to meet a black guy, with a big cock, without it causing offence to black guys in general or black guys who don't match up in my cock requirements?" Yes you could. You're politely asking for your preferred type of meet. If people don't fall into that category that's unfortunate for them. What's the alternative? Ask for a BBC and potentially unnecessarily offend even more people than you intended? | |||
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"I think this is all a load of bollocks and people should get a life.. White people are scared to even say the word black anymore... But it’s ok for black people like Will Smith etc in bad boys to make racist reference to white people and no one bats an eyelid... Stop living in the past and move on" | |||
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"I think this is all a load of bollocks and people should get a life.. White people are scared to even say the word black anymore... But it’s ok for black people like Will Smith etc in bad boys to make racist reference to white people and no one bats an eyelid... Stop living in the past and move on" That's bollocks, I'm one of those who doesn't agree with he majority here but trying to compare it to some film is just bullshit | |||
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"So could I ask to meet a black guy, with a big cock, without it causing offence to black guys in general or black guys who don't match up in my cock requirements? Yes you could. You're politely asking for your preferred type of meet. If people don't fall into that category that's unfortunate for them. What's the alternative? Ask for a BBC and potentially unnecessarily offend even more people than you intended?" I am ignorant of why it causes offence when it's put in the form of BBC rather than black guy, with a big cock. I am genuinely unaware of the offensive connotations associated with this acronym. Mrs xxx | |||
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"I think this is all a load of bollocks and people should get a life.. White people are scared to even say the word black anymore... But it’s ok for black people like Will Smith etc in bad boys to make racist reference to white people and no one bats an eyelid... Stop living in the past and move on" Are u ok hun? | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. Tell me you didn’t read people’s comments without telling me you didn’t read people comments!
Firstly, a good number of black men who have a sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions despise the term too, so not just some white people.
Secondly, the scene is not only hard for some white men but also for all kinds of men. No one talks about how hard Asian (in the context of the continent and not just what we mean by Asian in the UK) men have it on Fab and in vanilla life. There are black men on here too who are also unlucky.
There’s just this all pervading “black cock is big” trope that is actually harmful to not just black men, but also other men - cue, your comments on how that is destroying white men’s confidence.
The truth is some men have big cocks, some medium and some small and it cuts across all colours. To suggest it stacks up along complexion lines is perpetuating the same BS that has gone on for this long.
So tell me Mr."sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" what you doing on a sex site ?
Maybe explain to me why you think that is mutually exclusive to having a healthy appetite for sex and fun?
Is it because you equate that to a sense of morality perhaps?
I don’t have to explain anything to anyone. You come on here saying who from who does not have sense of self and respect. Seems a bit hypocritical to me. "Hahaha, very funny. So you don’t have to explain yourself to me, yet you ask me to explain myself to you based on some sense of morality that you have assigned to my statement, when I haven’t ascribed that to it myself. And you say that’s hypocritical? OK. Please debate my points instead of ad hominem attacks on my person. Since you can’t tell me why you asked me that question and you probably will elect not to point out where in my posts I have explicitly said “ who from who does not have sense of self and respect.”, then I am not even sure why you responded to me in the first place. Weird.  | |||
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"So could I ask to meet a black guy, with a big cock, without it causing offence to black guys in general or black guys who don't match up in my cock requirements? Yes you could. You're politely asking for your preferred type of meet. If people don't fall into that category that's unfortunate for them. What's the alternative? Ask for a BBC and potentially unnecessarily offend even more people than you intended? I am ignorant of why it causes offence when it's put in the form of BBC rather than black guy, with a big cock. I am genuinely unaware of the offensive connotations associated with this acronym. Mrs xxx" And this is what these fora are for - to let you see things from the perspective of others that you might not necessarily encounter in your vanilla life. No one has an issue with you wanting a black man who has a big cock, but where people stray into harmful objectification of ALL black men, is when you start describing a whole person as his appendage. In this case, I HAVE doesn’t mean I AM what I have. | |||
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"So how am I to express my preferences without upsetting anyone? I find some black guys very attractive, so find myself drawn to them. However because I am a bit of a size queen I also like very large cocks. Not small or medium but big cocks. So that's means when I am asking to meet BBC, I am not referring to all black guys, I am being very particular. So could I ask to meet a black guy, with a big cock, without it causing offence to black guys in general or black guys who don't match up in my cock requirements? I don't want to upset anyone but I get loads of mail from black guys using the BBC moniker. I also would never use the N word but have had quite a few guys asking me, whilst pounding into me to take their N**** cock or asking if I like their N**** cock, which ialways pretend I never heard. It's a little confusing for me x" Dirty talk is a whole new ball game. I had a guy throw in "daddy" into the mix. It threw me somewhat and I couldn't meet him again. Regarding well endowed black men, you've said numerous of them have it as their moniker. Kind of proves it works as an advert. TBF I'd quite like my own black/white/Asian brown/ Asian yellow man. And cock size is not as high GH on the list as honest and intelligent. But I digress  | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. Tell me you didn’t read people’s comments without telling me you didn’t read people comments!
Firstly, a good number of black men who have a sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions despise the term too, so not just some white people.
Secondly, the scene is not only hard for some white men but also for all kinds of men. No one talks about how hard Asian (in the context of the continent and not just what we mean by Asian in the UK) men have it on Fab and in vanilla life. There are black men on here too who are also unlucky.
There’s just this all pervading “black cock is big” trope that is actually harmful to not just black men, but also other men - cue, your comments on how that is destroying white men’s confidence.
The truth is some men have big cocks, some medium and some small and it cuts across all colours. To suggest it stacks up along complexion lines is perpetuating the same BS that has gone on for this long.
So tell me Mr."sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" what you doing on a sex site ?
Maybe explain to me why you think that is mutually exclusive to having a healthy appetite for sex and fun?
Is it because you equate that to a sense of morality perhaps?
I don’t have to explain anything to anyone. You come on here saying who from who does not have sense of self and respect. Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
Hahaha, very funny. So you don’t have to explain yourself to me, yet you ask me to explain myself to you based on some sense of morality that you have assigned to my statement, when I haven’t ascribed that to it myself. And you say that’s hypocritical? OK.
Please debate my points instead of ad hominem attacks on my person.
Since you can’t tell me why you asked me that question and you probably will elect not to point out where in my posts I have explicitly said “ who from who does not have sense of self and respect.”, then I am not even sure why you responded to me in the first place.
Weird.
"When you come on a porn/swingers site spewing out that "sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" there's no debate | |||
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"So could I ask to meet a black guy, with a big cock, without it causing offence to black guys in general or black guys who don't match up in my cock requirements? Yes you could. You're politely asking for your preferred type of meet. If people don't fall into that category that's unfortunate for them. What's the alternative? Ask for a BBC and potentially unnecessarily offend even more people than you intended? I am ignorant of why it causes offence when it's put in the form of BBC rather than black guy, with a big cock. I am genuinely unaware of the offensive connotations associated with this acronym. Mrs xxx And this is what these fora are for - to let you see things from the perspective of others that you might not necessarily encounter in your vanilla life. No one has an issue with you wanting a black man who has a big cock, but where people stray into harmful objectification of ALL black men, is when you start describing a whole person as his appendage. In this case, I HAVE doesn’t mean I AM what I have." But BBC is not referring to ALL black guys, the last two letters should be obvious that I'm not. I know this will seem trivial but I don't mean it to be but if I ask to meet a RWG, meaning Rich White Guy, it surely means I am not applying the acronym to ALL white only those with a big bank balance. I could see how it may be perceived if I said all black guys are hung ergo they are ALL BBC but I'm not. Even though I'm not using the acronym, I can see that it's use is aimed at a small, no pun intended, group of men who meet the set criteria stated in the acronym. If there were any violent or racist connotations associated with this acronym then I apologise profusely but iam genuinely unaware of this, Mrs xxx | |||
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"So could I ask to meet a black guy, with a big cock, without it causing offence to black guys in general or black guys who don't match up in my cock requirements? Yes you could. You're politely asking for your preferred type of meet. If people don't fall into that category that's unfortunate for them. What's the alternative? Ask for a BBC and potentially unnecessarily offend even more people than you intended? I am ignorant of why it causes offence when it's put in the form of BBC rather than black guy, with a big cock. I am genuinely unaware of the offensive connotations associated with this acronym. Mrs xxx And this is what these fora are for - to let you see things from the perspective of others that you might not necessarily encounter in your vanilla life. No one has an issue with you wanting a black man who has a big cock, but where people stray into harmful objectification of ALL black men, is when you start describing a whole person as his appendage. In this case, I HAVE doesn’t mean I AM what I have. But BBC is not referring to ALL black guys, the last two letters should be obvious that I'm not. I know this will seem trivial but I don't mean it to be but if I ask to meet a RWG, meaning Rich White Guy, it surely means I am not applying the acronym to ALL white only those with a big bank balance. I could see how it may be perceived if I said all black guys are hung ergo they are ALL BBC but I'm not. Even though I'm not using the acronym, I can see that it's use is aimed at a small, no pun intended, group of men who meet the set criteria stated in the acronym. If there were any violent or racist connotations associated with this acronym then I apologise profusely but iam genuinely unaware of this, Mrs xxx" No worries. We are having a healthy debate so don’t feel that you are being attacked, cos you are not. Sometimes you have to be uncomfortable with things to learn, grow and move past it. Simply put, there is a big difference between “he IS a BBC” and “he is a black man with a big cock” The first one reduces the whole individual to his cock and the second one mentions his humanity first. For example: If I messaged you and said I am looking for BWP - big white pussy, you can easily see how that would be objectifying you. Now add a history of harmful stereotypes and tropes to the equation and you see how uncool that is. | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. Tell me you didn’t read people’s comments without telling me you didn’t read people comments!
Firstly, a good number of black men who have a sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions despise the term too, so not just some white people.
Secondly, the scene is not only hard for some white men but also for all kinds of men. No one talks about how hard Asian (in the context of the continent and not just what we mean by Asian in the UK) men have it on Fab and in vanilla life. There are black men on here too who are also unlucky.
There’s just this all pervading “black cock is big” trope that is actually harmful to not just black men, but also other men - cue, your comments on how that is destroying white men’s confidence.
The truth is some men have big cocks, some medium and some small and it cuts across all colours. To suggest it stacks up along complexion lines is perpetuating the same BS that has gone on for this long.
So tell me Mr."sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" what you doing on a sex site ?
Maybe explain to me why you think that is mutually exclusive to having a healthy appetite for sex and fun?
Is it because you equate that to a sense of morality perhaps?
I don’t have to explain anything to anyone. You come on here saying who from who does not have sense of self and respect. Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
Hahaha, very funny. So you don’t have to explain yourself to me, yet you ask me to explain myself to you based on some sense of morality that you have assigned to my statement, when I haven’t ascribed that to it myself. And you say that’s hypocritical? OK.
Please debate my points instead of ad hominem attacks on my person.
Since you can’t tell me why you asked me that question and you probably will elect not to point out where in my posts I have explicitly said “ who from who does not have sense of self and respect.”, then I am not even sure why you responded to me in the first place.
Weird.
When you come on a porn/swingers site spewing out that "sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" there's no debate "That’s just reeks of judgement for swingers and implies the lifestyle of people on this site means they can’t understand and value their historical experiences. Which is completely false and also unfair. I’m not for judgement in general tbh if you want to be called a BBC more power to you but I take issue with the legitimisation of people thinking they can speak to us all the same way because some of us don’t mind it. But equally I think it’s completely fair to not like the term because for me personally I don’t like the connotation or histories of the term. | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. Tell me you didn’t read people’s comments without telling me you didn’t read people comments!
Firstly, a good number of black men who have a sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions despise the term too, so not just some white people.
Secondly, the scene is not only hard for some white men but also for all kinds of men. No one talks about how hard Asian (in the context of the continent and not just what we mean by Asian in the UK) men have it on Fab and in vanilla life. There are black men on here too who are also unlucky.
There’s just this all pervading “black cock is big” trope that is actually harmful to not just black men, but also other men - cue, your comments on how that is destroying white men’s confidence.
The truth is some men have big cocks, some medium and some small and it cuts across all colours. To suggest it stacks up along complexion lines is perpetuating the same BS that has gone on for this long.
So tell me Mr."sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" what you doing on a sex site ?
Maybe explain to me why you think that is mutually exclusive to having a healthy appetite for sex and fun?
Is it because you equate that to a sense of morality perhaps?
I don’t have to explain anything to anyone. You come on here saying who from who does not have sense of self and respect. Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
Hahaha, very funny. So you don’t have to explain yourself to me, yet you ask me to explain myself to you based on some sense of morality that you have assigned to my statement, when I haven’t ascribed that to it myself. And you say that’s hypocritical? OK.
Please debate my points instead of ad hominem attacks on my person.
Since you can’t tell me why you asked me that question and you probably will elect not to point out where in my posts I have explicitly said “ who from who does not have sense of self and respect.”, then I am not even sure why you responded to me in the first place.
Weird.
When you come on a porn/swingers site spewing out that "sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" there's no debate
That’s just reeks of judgement for swingers and implies the lifestyle of people on this site means they can’t understand and value their historical experiences. Which is completely false and also unfair. I’m not for judgement in general tbh if you want to be called a BBC more power to you but I take issue with the legitimisation of people thinking they can speak to us all the same way because some of us don’t mind it. But equally I think it’s completely fair to not like the term because for me personally I don’t like the connotation or histories of the term. "Though the words are the same, this talk is how you end up with non black people saying the N word because some Black people said they didn’t mind it | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. Tell me you didn’t read people’s comments without telling me you didn’t read people comments!
Firstly, a good number of black men who have a sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions despise the term too, so not just some white people.
Secondly, the scene is not only hard for some white men but also for all kinds of men. No one talks about how hard Asian (in the context of the continent and not just what we mean by Asian in the UK) men have it on Fab and in vanilla life. There are black men on here too who are also unlucky.
There’s just this all pervading “black cock is big” trope that is actually harmful to not just black men, but also other men - cue, your comments on how that is destroying white men’s confidence.
The truth is some men have big cocks, some medium and some small and it cuts across all colours. To suggest it stacks up along complexion lines is perpetuating the same BS that has gone on for this long.
So tell me Mr."sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" what you doing on a sex site ?
Maybe explain to me why you think that is mutually exclusive to having a healthy appetite for sex and fun?
Is it because you equate that to a sense of morality perhaps?
I don’t have to explain anything to anyone. You come on here saying who from who does not have sense of self and respect. Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
Hahaha, very funny. So you don’t have to explain yourself to me, yet you ask me to explain myself to you based on some sense of morality that you have assigned to my statement, when I haven’t ascribed that to it myself. And you say that’s hypocritical? OK.
Please debate my points instead of ad hominem attacks on my person.
Since you can’t tell me why you asked me that question and you probably will elect not to point out where in my posts I have explicitly said “ who from who does not have sense of self and respect.”, then I am not even sure why you responded to me in the first place.
Weird.
When you come on a porn/swingers site spewing out that "sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" there's no debate
That’s just reeks of judgement for swingers and implies the lifestyle of people on this site means they can’t understand and value their historical experiences. Which is completely false and also unfair. I’m not for judgement in general tbh if you want to be called a BBC more power to you but I take issue with the legitimisation of people thinking they can speak to us all the same way because some of us don’t mind it. But equally I think it’s completely fair to not like the term because for me personally I don’t like the connotation or histories of the term.
Though the words are NOT the same, this talk is how you end up with non black people saying the N word because some Black people said they didn’t mind it" | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. Tell me you didn’t read people’s comments without telling me you didn’t read people comments!
Firstly, a good number of black men who have a sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions despise the term too, so not just some white people.
Secondly, the scene is not only hard for some white men but also for all kinds of men. No one talks about how hard Asian (in the context of the continent and not just what we mean by Asian in the UK) men have it on Fab and in vanilla life. There are black men on here too who are also unlucky.
There’s just this all pervading “black cock is big” trope that is actually harmful to not just black men, but also other men - cue, your comments on how that is destroying white men’s confidence.
The truth is some men have big cocks, some medium and some small and it cuts across all colours. To suggest it stacks up along complexion lines is perpetuating the same BS that has gone on for this long.
So tell me Mr."sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" what you doing on a sex site ?
Maybe explain to me why you think that is mutually exclusive to having a healthy appetite for sex and fun?
Is it because you equate that to a sense of morality perhaps?
I don’t have to explain anything to anyone. You come on here saying who from who does not have sense of self and respect. Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
Hahaha, very funny. So you don’t have to explain yourself to me, yet you ask me to explain myself to you based on some sense of morality that you have assigned to my statement, when I haven’t ascribed that to it myself. And you say that’s hypocritical? OK.
Please debate my points instead of ad hominem attacks on my person.
Since you can’t tell me why you asked me that question and you probably will elect not to point out where in my posts I have explicitly said “ who from who does not have sense of self and respect.”, then I am not even sure why you responded to me in the first place.
Weird.
When you come on a porn/swingers site spewing out that "sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" there's no debate "What exactly about this disturbs you so much? Who says you can’t have a sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of your history and traditions cos you are on a swinging (not porn) site? That’s BS. Oh wait, you won’t answer and will say there’s no debate but somehow you are still talking to me,
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. Tell me you didn’t read people’s comments without telling me you didn’t read people comments!
Firstly, a good number of black men who have a sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions despise the term too, so not just some white people.
Secondly, the scene is not only hard for some white men but also for all kinds of men. No one talks about how hard Asian (in the context of the continent and not just what we mean by Asian in the UK) men have it on Fab and in vanilla life. There are black men on here too who are also unlucky.
There’s just this all pervading “black cock is big” trope that is actually harmful to not just black men, but also other men - cue, your comments on how that is destroying white men’s confidence.
The truth is some men have big cocks, some medium and some small and it cuts across all colours. To suggest it stacks up along complexion lines is perpetuating the same BS that has gone on for this long.
So tell me Mr."sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" what you doing on a sex site ?
Maybe explain to me why you think that is mutually exclusive to having a healthy appetite for sex and fun?
Is it because you equate that to a sense of morality perhaps?
I don’t have to explain anything to anyone. You come on here saying who from who does not have sense of self and respect. Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
Hahaha, very funny. So you don’t have to explain yourself to me, yet you ask me to explain myself to you based on some sense of morality that you have assigned to my statement, when I haven’t ascribed that to it myself. And you say that’s hypocritical? OK.
Please debate my points instead of ad hominem attacks on my person.
Since you can’t tell me why you asked me that question and you probably will elect not to point out where in my posts I have explicitly said “ who from who does not have sense of self and respect.”, then I am not even sure why you responded to me in the first place.
Weird.
When you come on a porn/swingers site spewing out that "sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" there's no debate
That’s just reeks of judgement for swingers and implies the lifestyle of people on this site means they can’t understand and value their historical experiences. Which is completely false and also unfair. I’m not for judgement in general tbh if you want to be called a BBC more power to you but I take issue with the legitimisation of people thinking they can speak to us all the same way because some of us don’t mind it. But equally I think it’s completely fair to not like the term because for me personally I don’t like the connotation or histories of the term.
Though the words are the same, this talk is how you end up with non black people saying the N word because some Black people said they didn’t mind it"Facts!! There is a nuance there that isn’t being picked up. You nailed it. | |||
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"I think this is all a load of bollocks and people should get a life.. White people are scared to even say the word black anymore... But it’s ok for black people like Will Smith etc in bad boys to make racist reference to white people and no one bats an eyelid... Stop living in the past and move on" Oh deary me | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. Tell me you didn’t read people’s comments without telling me you didn’t read people comments!
Firstly, a good number of black men who have a sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions despise the term too, so not just some white people.
Secondly, the scene is not only hard for some white men but also for all kinds of men. No one talks about how hard Asian (in the context of the continent and not just what we mean by Asian in the UK) men have it on Fab and in vanilla life. There are black men on here too who are also unlucky.
There’s just this all pervading “black cock is big” trope that is actually harmful to not just black men, but also other men - cue, your comments on how that is destroying white men’s confidence.
The truth is some men have big cocks, some medium and some small and it cuts across all colours. To suggest it stacks up along complexion lines is perpetuating the same BS that has gone on for this long.
So tell me Mr."sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" what you doing on a sex site ?
Maybe explain to me why you think that is mutually exclusive to having a healthy appetite for sex and fun?
Is it because you equate that to a sense of morality perhaps?
I don’t have to explain anything to anyone. You come on here saying who from who does not have sense of self and respect. Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
Hahaha, very funny. So you don’t have to explain yourself to me, yet you ask me to explain myself to you based on some sense of morality that you have assigned to my statement, when I haven’t ascribed that to it myself. And you say that’s hypocritical? OK.
Please debate my points instead of ad hominem attacks on my person.
Since you can’t tell me why you asked me that question and you probably will elect not to point out where in my posts I have explicitly said “ who from who does not have sense of self and respect.”, then I am not even sure why you responded to me in the first place.
Weird.
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. Tell me you didn’t read people’s comments without telling me you didn’t read people comments!
Firstly, a good number of black men who have a sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions despise the term too, so not just some white people.
Secondly, the scene is not only hard for some white men but also for all kinds of men. No one talks about how hard Asian (in the context of the continent and not just what we mean by Asian in the UK) men have it on Fab and in vanilla life. There are black men on here too who are also unlucky.
There’s just this all pervading “black cock is big” trope that is actually harmful to not just black men, but also other men - cue, your comments on how that is destroying white men’s confidence.
The truth is some men have big cocks, some medium and some small and it cuts across all colours. To suggest it stacks up along complexion lines is perpetuating the same BS that has gone on for this long.
So tell me Mr."sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" what you doing on a sex site ?
Maybe explain to me why you think that is mutually exclusive to having a healthy appetite for sex and fun?
Is it because you equate that to a sense of morality perhaps?
I don’t have to explain anything to anyone. You come on here saying who from who does not have sense of self and respect. Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
Hahaha, very funny. So you don’t have to explain yourself to me, yet you ask me to explain myself to you based on some sense of morality that you have assigned to my statement, when I haven’t ascribed that to it myself. And you say that’s hypocritical? OK.
Please debate my points instead of ad hominem attacks on my person.
Since you can’t tell me why you asked me that question and you probably will elect not to point out where in my posts I have explicitly said “ who from who does not have sense of self and respect.”, then I am not even sure why you responded to me in the first place.
Weird.
When you come on a porn/swingers site spewing out that "sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" there's no debate
That’s just reeks of judgement for swingers and implies the lifestyle of people on this site means they can’t understand and value their historical experiences. Which is completely false and also unfair. I’m not for judgement in general tbh if you want to be called a BBC more power to you but I take issue with the legitimisation of people thinking they can speak to us all the same way because some of us don’t mind it. But equally I think it’s completely fair to not like the term because for me personally I don’t like the connotation or histories of the term. "First, I didn't say that, so don't put words in my mouth. Secondly where have I said that i am legitimising "people thinking they can speak to us all the same way because some of us don’t mind it?" I can show you where I have said "it comes down to the individual" | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Very simple. White men would like to have sex too but many women and couples on this site only want sex with BBC. Unless you are hung, with a six pack and look like Brad Pitt, most white men either don't get a reply to their messages (or even a look it to a potential meet), or worse of all, their message deleted. Women / couples may not accept it, but a lot of them are size queens, and often BBC men are hung. Yes, its their fantasty and they can do / meet who they want, but when you join the club on the hope that everyone has a chance, its a bit of a shock to the system that if you are white and average, then you don't really have a chance. Yes you can go to the clubs but do you really want to be the guys left out in the lobby as others play or just wtaching from the back. This place is terrible for a white man's confidence with all the rejections. This prob where the hate comes from. I've always said that if you are a women who lacks confidence with her body, then join this site as there are many men who will love it. Tell me you didn’t read people’s comments without telling me you didn’t read people comments!
Firstly, a good number of black men who have a sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions despise the term too, so not just some white people.
Secondly, the scene is not only hard for some white men but also for all kinds of men. No one talks about how hard Asian (in the context of the continent and not just what we mean by Asian in the UK) men have it on Fab and in vanilla life. There are black men on here too who are also unlucky.
There’s just this all pervading “black cock is big” trope that is actually harmful to not just black men, but also other men - cue, your comments on how that is destroying white men’s confidence.
The truth is some men have big cocks, some medium and some small and it cuts across all colours. To suggest it stacks up along complexion lines is perpetuating the same BS that has gone on for this long.
So tell me Mr."sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" what you doing on a sex site ?
Maybe explain to me why you think that is mutually exclusive to having a healthy appetite for sex and fun?
Is it because you equate that to a sense of morality perhaps?
I don’t have to explain anything to anyone. You come on here saying who from who does not have sense of self and respect. Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
Hahaha, very funny. So you don’t have to explain yourself to me, yet you ask me to explain myself to you based on some sense of morality that you have assigned to my statement, when I haven’t ascribed that to it myself. And you say that’s hypocritical? OK.
Please debate my points instead of ad hominem attacks on my person.
Since you can’t tell me why you asked me that question and you probably will elect not to point out where in my posts I have explicitly said “ who from who does not have sense of self and respect.”, then I am not even sure why you responded to me in the first place.
Weird.
When you come on a porn/swingers site spewing out that "sense of self, respect and strong knowledge of their histories and traditions" there's no debate
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"So could I ask to meet a black guy, with a big cock, without it causing offence to black guys in general or black guys who don't match up in my cock requirements? Yes you could. You're politely asking for your preferred type of meet. If people don't fall into that category that's unfortunate for them. What's the alternative? Ask for a BBC and potentially unnecessarily offend even more people than you intended? I am ignorant of why it causes offence when it's put in the form of BBC rather than black guy, with a big cock. I am genuinely unaware of the offensive connotations associated with this acronym. Mrs xxx And this is what these fora are for - to let you see things from the perspective of others that you might not necessarily encounter in your vanilla life. No one has an issue with you wanting a black man who has a big cock, but where people stray into harmful objectification of ALL black men, is when you start describing a whole person as his appendage. In this case, I HAVE doesn’t mean I AM what I have. But BBC is not referring to ALL black guys, the last two letters should be obvious that I'm not. I know this will seem trivial but I don't mean it to be but if I ask to meet a RWG, meaning Rich White Guy, it surely means I am not applying the acronym to ALL white only those with a big bank balance. I could see how it may be perceived if I said all black guys are hung ergo they are ALL BBC but I'm not. Even though I'm not using the acronym, I can see that it's use is aimed at a small, no pun intended, group of men who meet the set criteria stated in the acronym. If there were any violent or racist connotations associated with this acronym then I apologise profusely but iam genuinely unaware of this, Mrs xxx No worries. We are having a healthy debate so don’t feel that you are being attacked, cos you are not. Sometimes you have to be uncomfortable with things to learn, grow and move past it. Simply put, there is a big difference between “he IS a BBC” and “he is a black man with a big cock” The first one reduces the whole individual to his cock and the second one mentions his humanity first. For example: If I messaged you and said I am looking for BWP - big white pussy, you can easily see how that would be objectifying you. Now add a history of harmful stereotypes and tropes to the equation and you see how uncool that is. " I'm picking up where you speak of BWP. I was told yesterday that comparing PAWG to BBC wasn't actually comparable. As a black man who think BWP wouldn't be acceptable (you made that comparison), do you think PAWG is acceptable? | |||
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"PAWG - Phat assed White Girl Contains a human element. Phat actually stands for pretty hot and tempting so as a descriptive term its broad. BBC - Big Black Cock Reductive to an appendage and colour. You can buy a BBC in the shop. Dont even need the man attached. " So we just change it to BBCM then? I know what PAWG originally stood for, it doesn't not in the context of PAWG. | |||
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"So could I ask to meet a black guy, with a big cock, without it causing offence to black guys in general or black guys who don't match up in my cock requirements? Yes you could. You're politely asking for your preferred type of meet. If people don't fall into that category that's unfortunate for them. What's the alternative? Ask for a BBC and potentially unnecessarily offend even more people than you intended? I am ignorant of why it causes offence when it's put in the form of BBC rather than black guy, with a big cock. I am genuinely unaware of the offensive connotations associated with this acronym. Mrs xxx And this is what these fora are for - to let you see things from the perspective of others that you might not necessarily encounter in your vanilla life. No one has an issue with you wanting a black man who has a big cock, but where people stray into harmful objectification of ALL black men, is when you start describing a whole person as his appendage. In this case, I HAVE doesn’t mean I AM what I have. But BBC is not referring to ALL black guys, the last two letters should be obvious that I'm not. I know this will seem trivial but I don't mean it to be but if I ask to meet a RWG, meaning Rich White Guy, it surely means I am not applying the acronym to ALL white only those with a big bank balance. I could see how it may be perceived if I said all black guys are hung ergo they are ALL BBC but I'm not. Even though I'm not using the acronym, I can see that it's use is aimed at a small, no pun intended, group of men who meet the set criteria stated in the acronym. If there were any violent or racist connotations associated with this acronym then I apologise profusely but iam genuinely unaware of this, Mrs xxx No worries. We are having a healthy debate so don’t feel that you are being attacked, cos you are not. Sometimes you have to be uncomfortable with things to learn, grow and move past it. Simply put, there is a big difference between “he IS a BBC” and “he is a black man with a big cock” The first one reduces the whole individual to his cock and the second one mentions his humanity first. For example: If I messaged you and said I am looking for BWP - big white pussy, you can easily see how that would be objectifying you. Now add a history of harmful stereotypes and tropes to the equation and you see how uncool that is. " I think that here there needs to be an appreciation of the context its used on here. This is a site which is used to find sexual encounters. So in this regard the acronym is short hand for a very specific set of requirements relating to a man's ethnic makeup and size of genitalia, I am not using this to describe ALL black guys, or indeed calling any guy a 'cock', which could be an insult I agree. So yes when I ask for such a thing I am objectified a black guys cock but only if it met what I was after, not ALL black cocks. I also do not see the issue of you asking me to meet because you like Big White Pussy. Its only like asking for Blondes, older woman, younger girls, whatever it is you desire. I would also expect you to not want to meet everyone within a specific group. Those you do want to meet would be those you 'objectified' for your own specific criteria. These preferences should be fine on a site of this nature, for everyone, without a fear of being castigated. Anyway I hope you find your Big White Pussy, sadly even though its recieved it fair share of pounding from the black guys I have met it seems to snap back quite quickly. But you never know, should it be permanently resized I'll let you know first, haha xxx | |||
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"So could I ask to meet a black guy, with a big cock, without it causing offence to black guys in general or black guys who don't match up in my cock requirements? Yes you could. You're politely asking for your preferred type of meet. If people don't fall into that category that's unfortunate for them. What's the alternative? Ask for a BBC and potentially unnecessarily offend even more people than you intended? I am ignorant of why it causes offence when it's put in the form of BBC rather than black guy, with a big cock. I am genuinely unaware of the offensive connotations associated with this acronym. Mrs xxx And this is what these fora are for - to let you see things from the perspective of others that you might not necessarily encounter in your vanilla life. No one has an issue with you wanting a black man who has a big cock, but where people stray into harmful objectification of ALL black men, is when you start describing a whole person as his appendage. In this case, I HAVE doesn’t mean I AM what I have. But BBC is not referring to ALL black guys, the last two letters should be obvious that I'm not. I know this will seem trivial but I don't mean it to be but if I ask to meet a RWG, meaning Rich White Guy, it surely means I am not applying the acronym to ALL white only those with a big bank balance. I could see how it may be perceived if I said all black guys are hung ergo they are ALL BBC but I'm not. Even though I'm not using the acronym, I can see that it's use is aimed at a small, no pun intended, group of men who meet the set criteria stated in the acronym. If there were any violent or racist connotations associated with this acronym then I apologise profusely but iam genuinely unaware of this, Mrs xxx No worries. We are having a healthy debate so don’t feel that you are being attacked, cos you are not. Sometimes you have to be uncomfortable with things to learn, grow and move past it. Simply put, there is a big difference between “he IS a BBC” and “he is a black man with a big cock” The first one reduces the whole individual to his cock and the second one mentions his humanity first. For example: If I messaged you and said I am looking for BWP - big white pussy, you can easily see how that would be objectifying you. Now add a history of harmful stereotypes and tropes to the equation and you see how uncool that is. I think that here there needs to be an appreciation of the context its used on here. This is a site which is used to find sexual encounters. So in this regard the acronym is short hand for a very specific set of requirements relating to a man's ethnic makeup and size of genitalia, I am not using this to describe ALL black guys, or indeed calling any guy a 'cock', which could be an insult I agree. So yes when I ask for such a thing I am objectified a black guys cock but only if it met what I was after, not ALL black cocks. I also do not see the issue of you asking me to meet because you like Big White Pussy. Its only like asking for Blondes, older woman, younger girls, whatever it is you desire. I would also expect you to not want to meet everyone within a specific group. Those you do want to meet would be those you 'objectified' for your own specific criteria. These preferences should be fine on a site of this nature, for everyone, without a fear of being castigated. Anyway I hope you find your Big White Pussy, sadly even though its recieved it fair share of pounding from the black guys I have met it seems to snap back quite quickly. But you never know, should it be permanently resized I'll let you know first, haha xxx " | |||
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"PAWG - Phat assed White Girl Contains a human element. Phat actually stands for pretty hot and tempting so as a descriptive term its broad. BBC - Big Black Cock Reductive to an appendage and colour. You can buy a BBC in the shop. Dont even need the man attached. " You do know that you can also buy the Phat Ass of a White Girl online, no need for actual girl either... just saying xxx | |||
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"PAWG - Phat assed White Girl Contains a human element. Phat actually stands for pretty hot and tempting so as a descriptive term its broad. BBC - Big Black Cock Reductive to an appendage and colour. You can buy a BBC in the shop. Dont even need the man attached. You do know that you can also buy the Phat Ass of a White Girl online, no need for actual girl either... just saying xxx" I did not know that. Thanks for the info. Reductiveness is ok for sex toys. Applying it to people seems wrong. Xxx (not saying that you were, its just my opinion) | |||
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"PAWG - Phat assed White Girl Contains a human element. Phat actually stands for pretty hot and tempting so as a descriptive term its broad. BBC - Big Black Cock Reductive to an appendage and colour. You can buy a BBC in the shop. Dont even need the man attached. You do know that you can also buy the Phat Ass of a White Girl online, no need for actual girl either... just saying xxx I did not know that. Thanks for the info. Reductiveness is ok for sex toys. Applying it to people seems wrong. Xxx (not saying that you were, its just my opinion) " in real life I agree but on here, as a female with certain needs a guys genitalia is important to me, I like them big, I don't apologise for that. It's only like guys asking to fuck big titted woman. On here asking for certain sexual preferences should be allowed and I think telling a guy I think he has a big cock is a compliment, if the guy is also black, For me, that's a bonus xxx | |||
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"Isn't the N word a bastardised form of race negroid? Why don't we use the race word of mongoloid, and why was there never a bastardised form of the race word Caucasoid? As a child a mong was definitely a derogatory word but I never knew it as a race. The use of language intrigues me as does etymology." Intrigued me too. Like I never understand why after all these years and so much societal progress, we still use reductive words like “race”, when we all know it has its roots in eugenics, which has been disgraced and put to bed. But we still use it in an era of changing language. | |||
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"PAWG - Phat assed White Girl Contains a human element. Phat actually stands for pretty hot and tempting so as a descriptive term its broad. BBC - Big Black Cock Reductive to an appendage and colour. You can buy a BBC in the shop. Dont even need the man attached. " Thank you! This is actually exhausting!! Lol. | |||
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"So could I ask to meet a black guy, with a big cock, without it causing offence to black guys in general or black guys who don't match up in my cock requirements? Yes you could. You're politely asking for your preferred type of meet. If people don't fall into that category that's unfortunate for them. What's the alternative? Ask for a BBC and potentially unnecessarily offend even more people than you intended? I am ignorant of why it causes offence when it's put in the form of BBC rather than black guy, with a big cock. I am genuinely unaware of the offensive connotations associated with this acronym. Mrs xxx And this is what these fora are for - to let you see things from the perspective of others that you might not necessarily encounter in your vanilla life. No one has an issue with you wanting a black man who has a big cock, but where people stray into harmful objectification of ALL black men, is when you start describing a whole person as his appendage. In this case, I HAVE doesn’t mean I AM what I have. But BBC is not referring to ALL black guys, the last two letters should be obvious that I'm not. I know this will seem trivial but I don't mean it to be but if I ask to meet a RWG, meaning Rich White Guy, it surely means I am not applying the acronym to ALL white only those with a big bank balance. I could see how it may be perceived if I said all black guys are hung ergo they are ALL BBC but I'm not. Even though I'm not using the acronym, I can see that it's use is aimed at a small, no pun intended, group of men who meet the set criteria stated in the acronym. If there were any violent or racist connotations associated with this acronym then I apologise profusely but iam genuinely unaware of this, Mrs xxx No worries. We are having a healthy debate so don’t feel that you are being attacked, cos you are not. Sometimes you have to be uncomfortable with things to learn, grow and move past it. Simply put, there is a big difference between “he IS a BBC” and “he is a black man with a big cock” The first one reduces the whole individual to his cock and the second one mentions his humanity first. For example: If I messaged you and said I am looking for BWP - big white pussy, you can easily see how that would be objectifying you. Now add a history of harmful stereotypes and tropes to the equation and you see how uncool that is. I think that here there needs to be an appreciation of the context its used on here. This is a site which is used to find sexual encounters. So in this regard the acronym is short hand for a very specific set of requirements relating to a man's ethnic makeup and size of genitalia, I am not using this to describe ALL black guys, or indeed calling any guy a 'cock', which could be an insult I agree. So yes when I ask for such a thing I am objectified a black guys cock but only if it met what I was after, not ALL black cocks. I also do not see the issue of you asking me to meet because you like Big White Pussy. Its only like asking for Blondes, older woman, younger girls, whatever it is you desire. I would also expect you to not want to meet everyone within a specific group. Those you do want to meet would be those you 'objectified' for your own specific criteria. These preferences should be fine on a site of this nature, for everyone, without a fear of being castigated. Anyway I hope you find your Big White Pussy, sadly even though its recieved it fair share of pounding from the black guys I have met it seems to snap back quite quickly. But you never know, should it be permanently resized I'll let you know first, haha xxx " You are right on one thing - there needs to be an appreciation of the context, but note that the context in this case comes with a troubled historical past where black men were objectified by their appendage and killed for it, dehumanised by being forced to have sex with black women, and in some cases their mothers, to have children for the purposes of “we all know what”. I really think you should really dig into that and then you may understand the nuance of what some of us are talking about here. Well, some of us can’t simply ignore that aspect of where this is all coming from. These words and their tropes don’t exist in a vacuum. You can’t take this and say it is harmless, because it comes with the whole context. The very acronym is objectification because: - no one ever says “man with BBC”, as the majority of non-black people often preface the word “man”with “black” for black men. Secondly, it’s be silly to say man with BBC as anyone with a big black coco is only ever going to be black. - the acronym stands for big black cock and that only. The only way you use that in exchange for the person is when you are literally objectifying that person by putting his cock above the person. I will say this again, no one has an issue with you wanting to meet a subset of “black men with big cocks”, if that’s your preference, but let’s not pretend that replacing this with BBC is the same thing and has no harmful tropes that come with it. It does and no amount of acrobatics around it makes it minimal. It doesn’t affect you, so I probably shouldn’t expect you to get it. If actual Black men are telling you it’s a harmful trope and it’s objectification and you insist it’s not harmful and has no link to anything else, then I do wonder if you actually care about the black men you get intimate with. The BWP comment was to attempt to let you see what I was describing but obviously that didn’t land. Anyway, let’s agree to disagree and move on. | |||
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"So could I ask to meet a black guy, with a big cock, without it causing offence to black guys in general or black guys who don't match up in my cock requirements? Yes you could. You're politely asking for your preferred type of meet. If people don't fall into that category that's unfortunate for them. What's the alternative? Ask for a BBC and potentially unnecessarily offend even more people than you intended? I am ignorant of why it causes offence when it's put in the form of BBC rather than black guy, with a big cock. I am genuinely unaware of the offensive connotations associated with this acronym. Mrs xxx And this is what these fora are for - to let you see things from the perspective of others that you might not necessarily encounter in your vanilla life. No one has an issue with you wanting a black man who has a big cock, but where people stray into harmful objectification of ALL black men, is when you start describing a whole person as his appendage. In this case, I HAVE doesn’t mean I AM what I have. But BBC is not referring to ALL black guys, the last two letters should be obvious that I'm not. I know this will seem trivial but I don't mean it to be but if I ask to meet a RWG, meaning Rich White Guy, it surely means I am not applying the acronym to ALL white only those with a big bank balance. I could see how it may be perceived if I said all black guys are hung ergo they are ALL BBC but I'm not. Even though I'm not using the acronym, I can see that it's use is aimed at a small, no pun intended, group of men who meet the set criteria stated in the acronym. If there were any violent or racist connotations associated with this acronym then I apologise profusely but iam genuinely unaware of this, Mrs xxx No worries. We are having a healthy debate so don’t feel that you are being attacked, cos you are not. Sometimes you have to be uncomfortable with things to learn, grow and move past it. Simply put, there is a big difference between “he IS a BBC” and “he is a black man with a big cock” The first one reduces the whole individual to his cock and the second one mentions his humanity first. For example: If I messaged you and said I am looking for BWP - big white pussy, you can easily see how that would be objectifying you. Now add a history of harmful stereotypes and tropes to the equation and you see how uncool that is. I think that here there needs to be an appreciation of the context its used on here. This is a site which is used to find sexual encounters. So in this regard the acronym is short hand for a very specific set of requirements relating to a man's ethnic makeup and size of genitalia, I am not using this to describe ALL black guys, or indeed calling any guy a 'cock', which could be an insult I agree. So yes when I ask for such a thing I am objectified a black guys cock but only if it met what I was after, not ALL black cocks. I also do not see the issue of you asking me to meet because you like Big White Pussy. Its only like asking for Blondes, older woman, younger girls, whatever it is you desire. I would also expect you to not want to meet everyone within a specific group. Those you do want to meet would be those you 'objectified' for your own specific criteria. These preferences should be fine on a site of this nature, for everyone, without a fear of being castigated. Anyway I hope you find your Big White Pussy, sadly even though its recieved it fair share of pounding from the black guys I have met it seems to snap back quite quickly. But you never know, should it be permanently resized I'll let you know first, haha xxx You are right on one thing - there needs to be an appreciation of the context, but note that the context in this case comes with a troubled historical past where black men were objectified by their appendage and killed for it, dehumanised by being forced to have sex with black women, and in some cases their mothers, to have children for the purposes of “we all know what”. I really think you should really dig into that and then you may understand the nuance of what some of us are talking about here. Well, some of us can’t simply ignore that aspect of where this is all coming from. These words and their tropes don’t exist in a vacuum. You can’t take this and say it is harmless, because it comes with the whole context. The very acronym is objectification because: - no one ever says “man with BBC”, as the majority of non-black people often preface the word “man”with “black” for black men. Secondly, it’s be silly to say man with BBC as anyone with a big black coco is only ever going to be black. - the acronym stands for big black cock and that only. The only way you use that in exchange for the person is when you are literally objectifying that person by putting his cock above the person. I will say this again, no one has an issue with you wanting to meet a subset of “black men with big cocks”, if that’s your preference, but let’s not pretend that replacing this with BBC is the same thing and has no harmful tropes that come with it. It does and no amount of acrobatics around it makes it minimal. It doesn’t affect you, so I probably shouldn’t expect you to get it. If actual Black men are telling you it’s a harmful trope and it’s objectification and you insist it’s not harmful and has no link to anything else, then I do wonder if you actually care about the black men you get intimate with. 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"Believe it or not, some people want to be objectified. If two people are happy with their kink, the opinion of others becomes irrelevant. Policing what others do in their bedroom is laughable. Enjoy sex how you see fit. All this debate is just people trying to win one for their side. Fetish or kink is not about widening your pool of playmates but rather looking for the few who enjoy or fulfill that specific thing. Everyone has different preferences, and trying to impose a single opinion on a diverse group of people is misguided and unproductive. Judging and dictating what others can or cannot do or say isn't very understanding, open minded, or accepting of diverse sexual desires. Some black guys will like it some won't. Really that simple." | |||
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"Isn't the N word a bastardised form of race negroid? Why don't we use the race word of mongoloid, and why was there never a bastardised form of the race word Caucasoid? As a child a mong was definitely a derogatory word but I never knew it as a race. The use of language intrigues me as does etymology. Intrigued me too. Like I never understand why after all these years and so much societal progress, we still use reductive words like “race”, when we all know it has its roots in eugenics, which has been disgraced and put to bed. But we still use it in an era of changing language. " You've lost me there. Explain. How does a label of categorisation have its roots in a concept of, let's say an alteration for perceived betterment? Isn't that like saying we shouldn't use the label food because of genetically modified foods? | |||
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"So could I ask to meet a black guy, with a big cock, without it causing offence to black guys in general or black guys who don't match up in my cock requirements? Yes you could. You're politely asking for your preferred type of meet. If people don't fall into that category that's unfortunate for them. What's the alternative? Ask for a BBC and potentially unnecessarily offend even more people than you intended? I am ignorant of why it causes offence when it's put in the form of BBC rather than black guy, with a big cock. I am genuinely unaware of the offensive connotations associated with this acronym. Mrs xxx And this is what these fora are for - to let you see things from the perspective of others that you might not necessarily encounter in your vanilla life. No one has an issue with you wanting a black man who has a big cock, but where people stray into harmful objectification of ALL black men, is when you start describing a whole person as his appendage. In this case, I HAVE doesn’t mean I AM what I have. But BBC is not referring to ALL black guys, the last two letters should be obvious that I'm not. I know this will seem trivial but I don't mean it to be but if I ask to meet a RWG, meaning Rich White Guy, it surely means I am not applying the acronym to ALL white only those with a big bank balance. I could see how it may be perceived if I said all black guys are hung ergo they are ALL BBC but I'm not. Even though I'm not using the acronym, I can see that it's use is aimed at a small, no pun intended, group of men who meet the set criteria stated in the acronym. If there were any violent or racist connotations associated with this acronym then I apologise profusely but iam genuinely unaware of this, Mrs xxx No worries. We are having a healthy debate so don’t feel that you are being attacked, cos you are not. Sometimes you have to be uncomfortable with things to learn, grow and move past it. Simply put, there is a big difference between “he IS a BBC” and “he is a black man with a big cock” The first one reduces the whole individual to his cock and the second one mentions his humanity first. For example: If I messaged you and said I am looking for BWP - big white pussy, you can easily see how that would be objectifying you. Now add a history of harmful stereotypes and tropes to the equation and you see how uncool that is. I think that here there needs to be an appreciation of the context its used on here. This is a site which is used to find sexual encounters. So in this regard the acronym is short hand for a very specific set of requirements relating to a man's ethnic makeup and size of genitalia, I am not using this to describe ALL black guys, or indeed calling any guy a 'cock', which could be an insult I agree. So yes when I ask for such a thing I am objectified a black guys cock but only if it met what I was after, not ALL black cocks. I also do not see the issue of you asking me to meet because you like Big White Pussy. Its only like asking for Blondes, older woman, younger girls, whatever it is you desire. I would also expect you to not want to meet everyone within a specific group. Those you do want to meet would be those you 'objectified' for your own specific criteria. These preferences should be fine on a site of this nature, for everyone, without a fear of being castigated. Anyway I hope you find your Big White Pussy, sadly even though its recieved it fair share of pounding from the black guys I have met it seems to snap back quite quickly. But you never know, should it be permanently resized I'll let you know first, haha xxx You are right on one thing - there needs to be an appreciation of the context, but note that the context in this case comes with a troubled historical past where black men were objectified by their appendage and killed for it, dehumanised by being forced to have sex with black women, and in some cases their mothers, to have children for the purposes of “we all know what”. I really think you should really dig into that and then you may understand the nuance of what some of us are talking about here. Well, some of us can’t simply ignore that aspect of where this is all coming from. These words and their tropes don’t exist in a vacuum. You can’t take this and say it is harmless, because it comes with the whole context. The very acronym is objectification because: - no one ever says “man with BBC”, as the majority of non-black people often preface the word “man”with “black” for black men. Secondly, it’s be silly to say man with BBC as anyone with a big black coco is only ever going to be black. - the acronym stands for big black cock and that only. The only way you use that in exchange for the person is when you are literally objectifying that person by putting his cock above the person. I will say this again, no one has an issue with you wanting to meet a subset of “black men with big cocks”, if that’s your preference, but let’s not pretend that replacing this with BBC is the same thing and has no harmful tropes that come with it. It does and no amount of acrobatics around it makes it minimal. It doesn’t affect you, so I probably shouldn’t expect you to get it. If actual Black men are telling you it’s a harmful trope and it’s objectification and you insist it’s not harmful and has no link to anything else, then I do wonder if you actually care about the black men you get intimate with. The BWP comment was to attempt to let you see what I was describing but obviously that didn’t land. Anyway, let’s agree to disagree and move on. " It has been mentioned about BBC and comparable to PAWG and then stated no cos PAWG mentions girl. To be pedantic BBC has to equal man with... As cocks are a man thing. @rse/@ss is not exclusive to women. | |||
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"So could I ask to meet a black guy, with a big cock, without it causing offence to black guys in general or black guys who don't match up in my cock requirements? Yes you could. You're politely asking for your preferred type of meet. If people don't fall into that category that's unfortunate for them. What's the alternative? Ask for a BBC and potentially unnecessarily offend even more people than you intended? I am ignorant of why it causes offence when it's put in the form of BBC rather than black guy, with a big cock. I am genuinely unaware of the offensive connotations associated with this acronym. Mrs xxx And this is what these fora are for - to let you see things from the perspective of others that you might not necessarily encounter in your vanilla life. No one has an issue with you wanting a black man who has a big cock, but where people stray into harmful objectification of ALL black men, is when you start describing a whole person as his appendage. In this case, I HAVE doesn’t mean I AM what I have. But BBC is not referring to ALL black guys, the last two letters should be obvious that I'm not. I know this will seem trivial but I don't mean it to be but if I ask to meet a RWG, meaning Rich White Guy, it surely means I am not applying the acronym to ALL white only those with a big bank balance. I could see how it may be perceived if I said all black guys are hung ergo they are ALL BBC but I'm not. Even though I'm not using the acronym, I can see that it's use is aimed at a small, no pun intended, group of men who meet the set criteria stated in the acronym. If there were any violent or racist connotations associated with this acronym then I apologise profusely but iam genuinely unaware of this, Mrs xxx No worries. We are having a healthy debate so don’t feel that you are being attacked, cos you are not. Sometimes you have to be uncomfortable with things to learn, grow and move past it. Simply put, there is a big difference between “he IS a BBC” and “he is a black man with a big cock” The first one reduces the whole individual to his cock and the second one mentions his humanity first. For example: If I messaged you and said I am looking for BWP - big white pussy, you can easily see how that would be objectifying you. Now add a history of harmful stereotypes and tropes to the equation and you see how uncool that is. I think that here there needs to be an appreciation of the context its used on here. This is a site which is used to find sexual encounters. So in this regard the acronym is short hand for a very specific set of requirements relating to a man's ethnic makeup and size of genitalia, I am not using this to describe ALL black guys, or indeed calling any guy a 'cock', which could be an insult I agree. So yes when I ask for such a thing I am objectified a black guys cock but only if it met what I was after, not ALL black cocks. I also do not see the issue of you asking me to meet because you like Big White Pussy. Its only like asking for Blondes, older woman, younger girls, whatever it is you desire. I would also expect you to not want to meet everyone within a specific group. Those you do want to meet would be those you 'objectified' for your own specific criteria. These preferences should be fine on a site of this nature, for everyone, without a fear of being castigated. Anyway I hope you find your Big White Pussy, sadly even though its recieved it fair share of pounding from the black guys I have met it seems to snap back quite quickly. But you never know, should it be permanently resized I'll let you know first, haha xxx It has been mentioned about BBC and comparable to PAWG and then stated no cos PAWG mentions girl. To be pedantic BBC has to equal man with... As cocks are a man thing. @rse/@ss is not exclusive to women." - couldn’t be bothered with deleting most of this quote, but agree with the last part | |||
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" It has been mentioned about BBC and comparable to PAWG and then stated no cos PAWG mentions girl. To be pedantic BBC has to equal man with... As cocks are a man thing. @rse/@ss is not exclusive to women." FFS. How is this so hard to understand? How's about I put it like this: 'I think you are a phat assed white girl'. 'I think you are a big black cock'. Using acronyms as a shorthand for searching for porn. Fair enough. But conversing with real people though? Are people that lazy and inconsiderate that they can't be bothered (or refuse) to type I'm looking for a black guy with a big cock instead of I'm looking for BBC? This isn't about policing language or banning certain words - it's about having respect for the people you want to engage with right? | |||
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"There are some black people saying they are offended by the term and consider it racist, surely that’s enough to make people understand that it’s probably not a good term to use? The mental acrobatics being exhibited by white people because, it would appear, they simply don’t want to have to modify their language in the tiniest way, is quite disheartening. If I was in a room with 10 people and used the word ‘cunt’ and a couple of those people said they found that word offensive and demeaning, then I simply would stop using the word ‘cunt’. I wouldn’t do mental gymnastics saying that it’s no different to another word, justify it because 8 people didn’t complain. It’s just good manners." Thank-you. This. | |||
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" It has been mentioned about BBC and comparable to PAWG and then stated no cos PAWG mentions girl. To be pedantic BBC has to equal man with... As cocks are a man thing. @rse/@ss is not exclusive to women. FFS. How is this so hard to understand? How's about I put it like this: 'I think you are a phat assed white girl'. 'I think you are a big black cock'. Using acronyms as a shorthand for searching for porn. Fair enough. But conversing with real people though? Are people that lazy and inconsiderate that they can't be bothered (or refuse) to type I'm looking for a black guy with a big cock instead of I'm looking for BBC? This isn't about policing language or banning certain words - it's about having respect for the people you want to engage with right?" I've already asked but didn't get an answer.... Can we change it to BBCM? Would that suffice? | |||
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"There are some black people saying they are offended by the term and consider it racist, surely that’s enough to make people understand that it’s probably not a good term to use? The mental acrobatics being exhibited by white people because, it would appear, they simply don’t want to have to modify their language in the tiniest way, is quite disheartening. If I was in a room with 10 people and used the word ‘cunt’ and a couple of those people said they found that word offensive and demeaning, then I simply would stop using the word ‘cunt’. I wouldn’t do mental gymnastics saying that it’s no different to another word, justify it because 8 people didn’t complain. It’s just good manners." . Yes it is good manners and is the correct way to approach things. | |||
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"I've already asked but didn't get an answer.... Can we change it to BBCM? Would that suffice?" As in Big Black Cock Man/Male? Speaking for myself, yes, it'd be less problematic. Although I do think describing any kind of people through acronyms is reductive and unhelpful. And I'm doubtful the term would catch on anyway. | |||
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"I've already asked but didn't get an answer.... Can we change it to BBCM? Would that suffice? As in Big Black Cock Man/Male? Speaking for myself, yes, it'd be less problematic. Although I do think describing any kind of people through acronyms is reductive and unhelpful. And I'm doubtful the term would catch on anyway. " That may be helpful to some, it doesn't need to 'catch on', if people want to change it in the know that they personally aren't being insulting, that's really all that matters. I still maintain as long as you have black men themselves using BBC as a 'selling point', you're never gonna get everyone to see the problem. | |||
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" I still maintain as long as you have black men themselves using BBC as a 'selling point', you're never gonna get everyone to see the problem. " .................................. An analogy- just because black comedians played to their white audiences by telling black jokes in the 70's didn't necessarily mean black people found those jokes funny. | |||
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" I still maintain as long as you have black men themselves using BBC as a 'selling point', you're never gonna get everyone to see the problem. .................................. An analogy- just because black comedians played to their white audiences by telling black jokes in the 70's didn't necessarily mean black people found those jokes funny." News flash - were not in the 70s. That doesn't change my view on it. I'm not saying black men should be comfortable with it, I'm saying that to change the mindset of others towards black men, you need to start from the inside. | |||
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" I still maintain as long as you have black men themselves using BBC as a 'selling point', you're never gonna get everyone to see the problem. " But what we have to AGAIN remember is we are not a monolith. Talk to us all differently. | |||
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"So could I ask to meet a black guy, with a big cock, without it causing offence to black guys in general or black guys who don't match up in my cock requirements? Yes you could. You're politely asking for your preferred type of meet. If people don't fall into that category that's unfortunate for them. What's the alternative? Ask for a BBC and potentially unnecessarily offend even more people than you intended? I am ignorant of why it causes offence when it's put in the form of BBC rather than black guy, with a big cock. I am genuinely unaware of the offensive connotations associated with this acronym. Mrs xxx" Go back and read all of the posts. Then you will get it because people have taken the time to educate you but you blew right past those and still claim ignorance?? | |||
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" I still maintain as long as you have black men themselves using BBC as a 'selling point', you're never gonna get everyone to see the problem. .................................. An analogy- just because black comedians played to their white audiences by telling black jokes in the 70's didn't necessarily mean black people found those jokes funny. News flash - were not in the 70s. That doesn't change my view on it. I'm not saying black men should be comfortable with it, I'm saying that to change the mindset of others towards black men, you need to start from the inside. " It’s OUR fault and it’s up to US to fix it right? We started all these stereotypes about black people so we of course are responsible for stopping people using it against us | |||
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"There are some black people saying they are offended by the term and consider it racist, surely that’s enough to make people understand that it’s probably not a good term to use? The mental acrobatics being exhibited by white people because, it would appear, they simply don’t want to have to modify their language in the tiniest way, is quite disheartening. If I was in a room with 10 people and used the word ‘cunt’ and a couple of those people said they found that word offensive and demeaning, then I simply would stop using the word ‘cunt’. I wouldn’t do mental gymnastics saying that it’s no different to another word, justify it because 8 people didn’t complain. It’s just good manners." Exactly. They don’t really care about what we are saying, because ….well, it doesn’t affect them. Never really understand why anyone would fight tooth and nail to use an acronym that has been explained by the very people it affects that it is harmful and yet, the mental acrobatics. That exactly the same mental acrobatics we see in other facets. | |||
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"Isn't the N word a bastardised form of race negroid? Why don't we use the race word of mongoloid, and why was there never a bastardised form of the race word Caucasoid? As a child a mong was definitely a derogatory word but I never knew it as a race. The use of language intrigues me as does etymology. Intrigued me too. Like I never understand why after all these years and so much societal progress, we still use reductive words like “race”, when we all know it has its roots in eugenics, which has been disgraced and put to bed. But we still use it in an era of changing language. You've lost me there. Explain. How does a label of categorisation have its roots in a concept of, let's say an alteration for perceived betterment? Isn't that like saying we shouldn't use the label food because of genetically modified foods?" Now it’s my turn to say I have no idea what you are talking about. “Alteration for perceived betterment?” Explain. Put simply - there aren’t races, there is only one. Francis Galton and his ilk created a whole thing to justify subjugation and brutalisation of other people with different features, and here we still describing different looking people as other races. Has no basis in biology whatsoever. | |||
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" I still maintain as long as you have black men themselves using BBC as a 'selling point', you're never gonna get everyone to see the problem. .................................. An analogy- just because black comedians played to their white audiences by telling black jokes in the 70's didn't necessarily mean black people found those jokes funny. News flash - were not in the 70s. That doesn't change my view on it. I'm not saying black men should be comfortable with it, I'm saying that to change the mindset of others towards black men, you need to start from the inside. It’s OUR fault and it’s up to US to fix it right? We started all these stereotypes about black people so we of course are responsible for stopping people using it against us "Exactly.. I wish I found this funny but it isn’t. How are we in 2023 and a number of white people (and yes, let’s call it out) are still are this blissfully ignorant? Probably not ignorant, but they just don’t care an iota about what is being pointed out here. There’s a lot of posts about this very subject that could provide mountains of context and educational material from the very people it affects, but they just don’t care. They have an ideological hill to stand on and they’d die on that hill, cos they reserve the right to use words that dehumanise people, cos it’s their right. The problem isn’t black people, the problem is the white people and other non-black people who refuse to take responsibility for not using harmful stereotypical tropes. If you stopped it, then those men who wear it proud wouldn’t have to resort to using it, because it’d be frowned upon. But equally those black men, who use it to their advantage need to maybe think beyond their cock for once. | |||
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