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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"?" In a football coaching role it has a completely different meaning. Bibs,Balls and Cones lol | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"?" White people or white men who can't fuck you? | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? White people or white men who can't fuck you?" Its using the term BBC that usually causes so much offense to white men for some reason haha | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"?" Some black folks will have a problem with the term too. From previous responses on this topic, BBC is a reductive term. Theres nothing wrong with wanting to meet black guys but not all black men have the stereotypical big black cock, not all black guys want to be used because they have a BBC. Theres more to a person than genitals?! Some guys of course love it, it gets them attention and meets so they’ll play on it. Also if you’re excluding white men (who are equally as well endowed) for black men, its that thing about not being excluded. Also if its your preference then do as you will. Its a multi faceted topic. If you search forums for other threads about BBC you’ll find more articulate explanations. Xxx | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Some black folks will have a problem with the term too. From previous responses on this topic, BBC is a reductive term. Theres nothing wrong with wanting to meet black guys but not all black men have the stereotypical big black cock, not all black guys want to be used because they have a BBC. Theres more to a person than genitals?! Some guys of course love it, it gets them attention and meets so they’ll play on it. Also if you’re excluding white men (who are equally as well endowed) for black men, its that thing about not being excluded. Also if its your preference then do as you will. Its a multi faceted topic. If you search forums for other threads about BBC you’ll find more articulate explanations. Xxx" That makes total sense, thank you! We don't use the term to cause offense... Just that our preference for now is to find a black man with a big cock. That's probably more common than white men | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Some black folks will have a problem with the term too. From previous responses on this topic, BBC is a reductive term. Theres nothing wrong with wanting to meet black guys but not all black men have the stereotypical big black cock, not all black guys want to be used because they have a BBC. Theres more to a person than genitals?! Some guys of course love it, it gets them attention and meets so they’ll play on it. Also if you’re excluding white men (who are equally as well endowed) for black men, its that thing about not being excluded. Also if its your preference then do as you will. Its a multi faceted topic. If you search forums for other threads about BBC you’ll find more articulate explanations. Xxx" This... for those who do find offense (those in all races) is because it boils the man down to his genitals and pushes further fetishism of the person based on their skin colour and genitals rather than seeing them as a person. Inshort, it feeds into race play | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"?" I've seen many on here state white men only shall we say that's racist? As a BBC man I don't take offence to that everyone has a preference, I wouldn't even let it bother you if I was you lol | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? I've seen many on here state white men only shall we say that's racist? As a BBC man I don't take offence to that everyone has a preference, I wouldn't even let it bother you if I was you lol" Thank you!! Yeah, how exactly is it racist? I'd say it was the opposite, some people always find somthing to complain about. | |||
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"I had never heard of it until a few years ago I had a few messages from black guys on dating sites asking if liked BBC and I'm baffled thinking why asking me about TV channels I know a lot of black men who are not offended but the term and happily use it. I also know plenty of black men who don't like the term BBC. I've seen people say if you use the term BBC you will be blocked Fetishing race and using racial stereotypes can cause offense. It's OK for anyone to be offended by that. " Totally agree with you but it's not our intention to offend people. We're simply looking for the guys who aren't offended but the term and who infact have a BBC. Just our thing is all it is | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? I've seen many on here state white men only shall we say that's racist? As a BBC man I don't take offence to that everyone has a preference, I wouldn't even let it bother you if I was you lol Thank you!! Yeah, how exactly is it racist? I'd say it was the opposite, some people always find somthing to complain about. " 100% as a BBC male I tried to send you a message but you've blocked single guys lol | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? I've seen many on here state white men only shall we say that's racist? As a BBC man I don't take offence to that everyone has a preference, I wouldn't even let it bother you if I was you lol Thank you!! Yeah, how exactly is it racist? I'd say it was the opposite, some people always find somthing to complain about. " Even positive stereotypes are still stereotypes that some people won't enjoy being applied to them. | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? I've seen many on here state white men only shall we say that's racist? As a BBC man I don't take offence to that everyone has a preference, I wouldn't even let it bother you if I was you lol Thank you!! Yeah, how exactly is it racist? I'd say it was the opposite, some people always find somthing to complain about. 100% as a BBC male I tried to send you a message but you've blocked single guys lol" Had to block single guys because of all the messages we get from fat old white guys... Ill change the settings now | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? I've seen many on here state white men only shall we say that's racist? As a BBC man I don't take offence to that everyone has a preference, I wouldn't even let it bother you if I was you lol Thank you!! Yeah, how exactly is it racist? I'd say it was the opposite, some people always find somthing to complain about. 100% as a BBC male I tried to send you a message but you've blocked single guys lol Had to block single guys because of all the messages we get from fat old white guys... Ill change the settings now " Ok | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? I've seen many on here state white men only shall we say that's racist? As a BBC man I don't take offence to that everyone has a preference, I wouldn't even let it bother you if I was you lol Thank you!! Yeah, how exactly is it racist? I'd say it was the opposite, some people always find somthing to complain about. 100% as a BBC male I tried to send you a message but you've blocked single guys lol Had to block single guys because of all the messages we get from fat old white guys... Ill change the settings now Ok " Done | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? White people or white men who can't fuck you? Its using the term BBC that usually causes so much offense to white men for some reason haha" Lots of black men are also offended by it. | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? I've seen many on here state white men only shall we say that's racist? As a BBC man I don't take offence to that everyone has a preference, I wouldn't even let it bother you if I was you lol Thank you!! Yeah, how exactly is it racist? I'd say it was the opposite, some people always find somthing to complain about. 100% as a BBC male I tried to send you a message but you've blocked single guys lol Had to block single guys because of all the messages we get from fat old white guys... Ill change the settings now Ok Done " You really are not doing yourself any favours, on the one hand complaining about possible racist messages and then complaining about fat old white men.. Did it cross your mind while writing this that it may offend some people.. | |||
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" Had to block single guys because of all the messages we get from fat old white guys... Ill change the settings now " Charming. | |||
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"Unless you’re specifically into race play and fetishisation it would be better for you to refrain from using that kind of language. You’ll appeal to a wider audience. I exclusively play with black men but don’t go in for that kind of language and know lots of men who don’t entertain it as they find it offensive. If you’ve never played with a black man before you do need to realise that not all of them have large cocks though If you’re looking for someone super hung you’re as likely to find that with a white guy " Well said. I was in a little group thing few months ago with a some others including a black man. He really didn’t like the BBC term and was average sized. Saying that guess the term works for some but need to be aware that some won’t like and no need to insult others in the process. | |||
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"Yeah, how exactly is it racist? I'd say it was the opposite, some people always find somthing to complain about. " Sorry to point this out but… Racism: the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another. Racism isn’t just “anti black”. Any race can be guilty of racism against any other race, examples of it are all over the world. We humans are really good at finding reasons to exclude or otherwise marginalise someone. We all have our likes and dislikes, what turns one of us on may not turn someone else on and I’m not going to call you out for expressing a preference. Personally I’m much more interested in a woman’s character, or if they make me laugh than any specific physical characteristic. | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"?" But it's not only white people is it. | |||
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"Theirs another way around this just put African origin unless you want a big one then ding dong who was the guy with a huge Willie back in the 80s" Not all black people are of African origin | |||
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"Theirs another way around this just put African origin unless you want a big one then ding dong who was the guy with a huge Willie back in the 80s Not all black people are of African origin " We are all of African origin | |||
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"Theirs another way around this just put African origin unless you want a big one then ding dong who was the guy with a huge Willie back in the 80s Not all black people are of African origin " Not all have a big one either | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? I've seen many on here state white men only shall we say that's racist? As a BBC man I don't take offence to that everyone has a preference, I wouldn't even let it bother you if I was you lol Thank you!! Yeah, how exactly is it racist? I'd say it was the opposite, some people always find somthing to complain about. Even positive stereotypes are still stereotypes that some people won't enjoy being applied to them." It’s not a positive stereotype. It’s one based on racist myths that have been used to justify violence against black men | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? I've seen many on here state white men only shall we say that's racist? As a BBC man I don't take offence to that everyone has a preference, I wouldn't even let it bother you if I was you lol Thank you!! Yeah, how exactly is it racist? I'd say it was the opposite, some people always find somthing to complain about. Even positive stereotypes are still stereotypes that some people won't enjoy being applied to them. It’s not a positive stereotype. It’s one based on racist myths that have been used to justify violence against black men" The ethic code should be changed because for one nobody is actually black but brown I don't like the labels the government seems to use | |||
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"Its about as racist as someone saying they won't meet people of colour. It's personal preference and everyone is entitled to their own preference and if you don't like it just move along and try elsewhere. For us single males have a problem that we don't want to meet them whereas it's just our preference " Wanting to have sex with a black man because you think he’s attractive is very different to referring to black men as BBC’s, or saying you’re looking for BBC’s. Language is important | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"?" Curious… why do you think it is only white people that have an issue with the term? I would argue because this topic has come up before, that you are turning off as many of your target audience as you are encouraging them. | |||
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"Plenty of Black people don’t like the term. It’s degrading and is just rooted in harmful racist stereotypes. and on here it’s used as a synonym for Black guy. " I’m sure you’re going to get all the couples letting you know it isn’t racist. As has been pointed out several times in this, personal preference based on ethnicity is down to the individual person. But it’s the language that’s used that is the Fetishisation. Another term on here is BBW. If your preference is for a larger woman, that’s fine. But, when you strip that person down to just being “big” and remove the rest of the identity just for your sexual satisfaction, that is fetishisation. | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"?" Probably because of tv licence. British broadcasting company are real assholes | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Some black folks will have a problem with the term too. From previous responses on this topic, BBC is a reductive term. Theres nothing wrong with wanting to meet black guys but not all black men have the stereotypical big black cock, not all black guys want to be used because they have a BBC. Theres more to a person than genitals?! Some guys of course love it, it gets them attention and meets so they’ll play on it. Also if you’re excluding white men (who are equally as well endowed) for black men, its that thing about not being excluded. Also if its your preference then do as you will. Its a multi faceted topic. If you search forums for other threads about BBC you’ll find more articulate explanations. Xxx That makes total sense, thank you! We don't use the term to cause offense... Just that our preference for now is to find a black man with a big cock. That's probably more common than white men" A) statistically… that actually isn’t true (there is no difference) B) if you want to find a black man with a big cock, why don’t you just put that you are looking for a black man with a big cock… that clearer, more specific and not offending anyone. For some that acronym has taboo and fetishisation elements attached to it, that’s why language in any is important Some people will love it and won’t mind it… however I always say to them don’t complain about the double edged sword and throw out the race card if they don’t say yes For others it will always be a dignity thing… people are more than just a BBC and aren’t prepared to trade it in for sex As a said in my other post is can be seen as a divisive generalisation and stereotype and can turn off as many people as it turns on If language can widen your pool of potential playmates I don’t see why not take advantage of that opportunity | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"?" I'd imagine black guys who have small willies will feel a bit shit. But other than that, no one cares other than that and tbh I'm bored of people getting offended | |||
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"Lots of sensible people have made very eloquent answers above... so I'll try not so waffle. Op- if you're looking for a big cock- just say that. Then you won't risk offending anyone and it is specific to what you're looking for. Unless you're then preference is black men- then maybe say that too. Otherwise you're losing out on some potentially endowed willies of other races - and really- who wants to Miss out on good dick K X " I’m feeling objectified - I’m a person with a cock not just a cock . If they just wanted a big cock guess “fat old white men” with a big cock would be fine too. | |||
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" I’m feeling objectified - I’m a person with a cock not just a cock . If they just wanted a big cock guess “fat old white men” with a big cock would be fine too. " I'm all about equal opportunities and don't discern by race or size.... wit, charm, personality, an amazing kisser, great oral skills, good rhythm and other skills matter wayyyyyyy more | |||
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"Think I might go on the search for BBF - beautiful black fanny. " Your going to be inundated with BBF now | |||
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"It’s just the snowflake generation / modern society where people get offended by everything and people even get offended on behalf of other people . I personally don’t see anything wrong with the term and if that’s your preference sex wise you are entitled to that preference . " Well i think this in some cases is people being offended on behalf of themselves not others. There are back men being offended. Ditto with with fat old white man comment. It’s fine going around causing offence but also sometimes good as decent respectful human to be aware of how others feel about your language and sometimes adapt accordingly. Well unless you are somebody you just gets great joy from offending people and making them feel bad - and definitely some of those around. | |||
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"Think I might go on the search for BBF - beautiful black fanny. Your going to be inundated with BBF now " I should be so lucky. Worried might be flooded with BWF messages and have to block messages | |||
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"Think I might go on the search for BBF - beautiful black fanny. Your going to be inundated with BBF now I should be so lucky. Worried might be flooded with BWF messages and have to block messages " | |||
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"For me, it’s fine to have a preference, but in my mind reducing someone (or allowing yourself to be minimised) to BBC/BWC is race fetishisation and completely gives me the ick. I include any Queen of Spades / QOS mention in that too. It’s just not for me, so I move on. " That's if your looking at it that way. No different than saying bbw, Curvy or slim. | |||
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"Interesting that people who are not affected my race fetishism are commenting and calling those that are "snowflakes" " **affected by | |||
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"For me, it’s fine to have a preference, but in my mind reducing someone (or allowing yourself to be minimised) to BBC/BWC is race fetishisation and completely gives me the ick. I include any Queen of Spades / QOS mention in that too. It’s just not for me, so I move on. That's if your looking at it that way. No different than saying bbw, Curvy or slim." For me, it’s the difference between a preference, and having zero interest in the person except for their curviness/BBW-ability/BBC or whatever. That’s where it crosses the line. | |||
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"It’s someone’s preference . Same as if some one says on their profile they are looking for big girls only or tall dark and handsome , or gym fit only or skinny women only or bi couples . It’s their preference . It doesn’t mean they are racist it doesn’t mean they are degrading anyone . If the couple want a big black cock let them . It’s no one’s business but theirs . And if someone is offended by it they should just keep scrolling , it has nothing to do with them . Everyone is entitled to be sexually attracted and desire certain things and if the men with big black cocks are happy to oblige and be called that then fair play to them . They are in luck " There is a way to express a preference of race without fetishing the race in question.... | |||
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"If that couple were to say they only wanted black men - that could be conceived as racist . If they said only white men - it could be seen as racist . They have a specific kink for black men with big cocks . There is no other way of asking for that than saying “looking for bbc” . I don’t believe they are intending to insult or degrade anyone or bring racist connertations into it " There is another way to say it. They could just say ‘Seeking VWE black men’. When so many people are arguing that the term BBC can be offensive, why would anyone use it? You can see from this post and the many others in here that lots of black people do find it offensive. Saying ‘I didn’t mean to offend anyone and there are no racist connotations’ doesn’t wash when so many black people say they’re offended. Insisting that you, as a white man, know better is wild. | |||
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"I’m not insisting anything . I gave my opinion same as everyone else on this thread . What is the difference in saying “VWE black man” and “BBC” it means the exact same thing and both refer to a black man with a large cock . I don’t get the difference in how that’s perceived " It’s literally been explained in the thread though | |||
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"What you said “VWE black men” means the exact same thing as “BBC” . There is literally no difference between the 2 descriptions . So your suggestion is just the exact same " Read the whole thread. There are several explanations about why language makes a difference. Unless you’re not looking to understand? | |||
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"We all use terms that someone might find offensive, a woman with beautiful curves had a go at me in a club for using the term bbw. I respect your right to be offended by any term used for anyone but I think way to many people are looking to be offended rather than just moving on or laughing it off" I agree , if you don’t like the couples criteria move on to another couple . Everyone has their sexual preferences | |||
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"Your suggestion was just a play on words . It means the exact same thing . I have read the thread . Initially the poster stated it was white men who seemed to have the issue with their preference . Some people seemed to be of the view that black men were being used because of their big cocks by this couple . Whether you say VWE black man or bbc it means the same thing . This is a swinging sex site - everyone is using other people for sex and their fantasies . So using a black man with a big cock or a gym fit couple or an emo girl just because of their looks and body shape etc is the same . Everyone is being used on this site to fulfill others sexual needs " You may think it's the same thing and words don't matter but plenty don't see it as such and don't like the term, including many black men. I met a black men recently who hates the term. Of course perhaps it doesn't matter and people can scroll by. The other point of view is that if certain people don't like certain terms as a decent human being you can decide to use other words and not cause offence for the sake of it. Swinging is about a bit more than pure transactional swap of body parts to fulfil a need. | |||
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"What you said “VWE black men” means the exact same thing as “BBC” . There is literally no difference between the 2 descriptions . So your suggestion is just the exact same " Not really the same thing. You can buy a big black cock in the shop. Its just an appendage, an item, easily dismissed. A well endowed black man implies you’re looking for a person and actual man, someone with energy and personality whos enhancing your sexual encounter yes because he has a big dick but also some humanity. | |||
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"What you said “VWE black men” means the exact same thing as “BBC” . There is literally no difference between the 2 descriptions . So your suggestion is just the exact same " One description talks about a man, the other about a body part. Racially inspired body-part fetishization is the difference. Which one do you think is more objectifying of the two? | |||
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"This is a swinging sex site - everyone is using other people for sex and their fantasies . ... Everyone is being used on this site to fulfill others sexual needs " NVM, this explains your views pretty clearly. Many, many of us will beg to differ - it is possible to fulfil your sexual fantasies and desires without using others or being used. Just a little respect, it's not -that- hard. | |||
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"Also if a couple are specifically looking for a black man with a big cock - let them . It’s their fantasy and their lives . It’s no one’s business . And if black men with big cocks want to oblige then brilliant . Everyone is a winner " There is a juicy irony in that the most vociferous objecter being a white person explaining how black people should feel about a term that labelled on them So… thank you… ish? | |||
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"Also if a couple are specifically looking for a black man with a big cock - let them . It’s their fantasy and their lives . It’s no one’s business . And if black men with big cocks want to oblige then brilliant . Everyone is a winner There is a juicy irony in that the most vociferous objecter being a white person explaining how black people should feel about a term that labelled on them So… thank you… ish? " I haven’t said at all it’s how black people should feel. I just gave my opinion on it which is as valid as everyone’s opinion on the thread . That’s what the forum is for , for peoples views. And I already did state that I probably wasn’t the right person to do so as it didn’t apply to me . I’m just giving my opinion in a respectful manner | |||
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"I am very respectful , I have never ever abused anyone on this site and I am always mannerly . I am well verified and have never treated anyone with disrespect on fab . I am defending the rights of a couple who wish to have sex with well endowed black men and who stated that it’s white men who seem to have the issue with them . " No one is objecting to the couple wanting to have sex with black men. They don’t need their ‘rights’ defending on that front. The majority of the conversation is around their insistence on using the term BBC when people have pointed out to them (both black and white) that the term is perceived by many to be unpleasant and why. You appear to be defending that right too whilst ignoring the clear, intelligent explanations about it and that’s the problem. | |||
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"I am very respectful , I have never ever abused anyone on this site and I am always mannerly . I am well verified and have never treated anyone with disrespect on fab . I am defending the rights of a couple who wish to have sex with well endowed black men and who stated that it’s white men who seem to have the issue with them . No one is objecting to the couple wanting to have sex with black men. They don’t need their ‘rights’ defending on that front. The majority of the conversation is around their insistence on using the term BBC when people have pointed out to them (both black and white) that the term is perceived by many to be unpleasant and why. You appear to be defending that right too whilst ignoring the clear, intelligent explanations about it and that’s the problem. I gave my opinion and explained that BBC and VWE black men is the same thing in my humble also intelligent opinion . I don’t need passive aggressive responses . I just gave an opinion. I’m out . Enjoy the day " | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"?" .................................. Many black people who aren't keen on being objectified, particularly given the historical associations where black people were often regarded as human sex toys by white people. | |||
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"I am very respectful , I have never ever abused anyone on this site and I am always mannerly . I am well verified and have never treated anyone with disrespect on fab . I am defending the rights of a couple who wish to have sex with well endowed black men and who stated that it’s white men who seem to have the issue with them . No one is objecting to the couple wanting to have sex with black men. They don’t need their ‘rights’ defending on that front. The majority of the conversation is around their insistence on using the term BBC when people have pointed out to them (both black and white) that the term is perceived by many to be unpleasant and why. You appear to be defending that right too whilst ignoring the clear, intelligent explanations about it and that’s the problem. " ................................ Well said | |||
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"We all use terms that someone might find offensive, a woman with beautiful curves had a go at me in a club for using the term bbw. I respect your right to be offended by any term used for anyone but I think way to many people are looking to be offended rather than just moving on or laughing it off" .............................. Racial epithets have been laughed off for too long don't you think? I'm sure you'd be delighted to be described in the workplace as 'that big black cock'. | |||
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"What you said “VWE black men” means the exact same thing as “BBC” . There is literally no difference between the 2 descriptions . So your suggestion is just the exact same Read the whole thread. There are several explanations about why language makes a difference. Unless you’re not looking to understand? " It doesn't affect him so he doesn't need to understand Too happy to come and call those who have a problem with it "snowflakes" even though its something he will never in his life experience himself | |||
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"For me it’s the fact that people are pretending as well that on top of the problematic history of the term, that white people on here don’t use BBC when they mean black men. Saying they’re looking for VWE Black guys would require them to recognise Black men as humans and not just objects for their sexual pleasure or fantasies. ***For example I don’t get asked if I have a BBC I get asked if I *AM* a BBC. " How many people recognise women as humans and not just objects for their pleasure? *** Sex meat. | |||
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"For me it’s the fact that people are pretending as well that on top of the problematic history of the term, that white people on here don’t use BBC when they mean black men. Saying they’re looking for VWE Black guys would require them to recognise Black men as humans and not just objects for their sexual pleasure or fantasies. ***For example I don’t get asked if I have a BBC I get asked if I *AM* a BBC. How many people recognise women as humans and not just objects for their pleasure? *** Sex meat. " Not trying to diminish what you're saying by the way. It's not a competition of shite. | |||
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"White men usually... Or the male half on a couples profile usually get upset about it. We want our first swap experience to be with a Black man and somehow, that's racist?!! " I mean…it is…not saying you shouldn’t but from a technical side of thing racial fetishes are inherently discrimination against the other races. It’s positive racism i guess but it is. That said absolutely no judgement here from us. | |||
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" You better change your user name before the group chastises your " There's nothing to chastise, some people have an issue with the term and some don't. Obviously the person in question doesn't have an issue with it. However there's a difference between not having an issue with it and referring to those who do as "snowflakes" | |||
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" You better change your user name before the group chastises your There's nothing to chastise, some people have an issue with the term and some don't. Obviously the person in question doesn't have an issue with it. However there's a difference between not having an issue with it and referring to those who do as "snowflakes" " You seem to have more of an issue with the term snowflakes than BBC. And likewise it’s an issue than doesn’t affect you just like me . | |||
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"For me it’s the fact that people are pretending as well that on top of the problematic history of the term, that white people on here don’t use BBC when they mean black men. Saying they’re looking for VWE Black guys would require them to recognise Black men as humans and not just objects for their sexual pleasure or fantasies. ***For example I don’t get asked if I have a BBC I get asked if I *AM* a BBC. How many people recognise women as humans and not just objects for their pleasure? *** Sex meat. Not trying to diminish what you're saying by the way. It's not a competition of shite. " It’s not. | |||
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" You better change your user name before the group chastises your There's nothing to chastise, some people have an issue with the term and some don't. Obviously the person in question doesn't have an issue with it. However there's a difference between not having an issue with it and referring to those who do as "snowflakes" You seem to have more of an issue with the term snowflakes than BBC. And likewise it’s an issue than doesn’t affect you just like me . " I dunno I think a Black woman taking issue with people’s use of a racist term is valid. After all issues affecting Black men or Black women invariably impact them both. | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"? Some black folks will have a problem with the term too. From previous responses on this topic, BBC is a reductive term. Theres nothing wrong with wanting to meet black guys but not all black men have the stereotypical big black cock, not all black guys want to be used because they have a BBC. Theres more to a person than genitals?! Some guys of course love it, it gets them attention and meets so they’ll play on it. Also if you’re excluding white men (who are equally as well endowed) for black men, its that thing about not being excluded. Also if its your preference then do as you will. Its a multi faceted topic. If you search forums for other threads about BBC you’ll find more articulate explanations. Xxx" At the end of the day it should be about individual preference, although some get offended at profiles that say 'white only' - and there are plenty of those too. In the end the written word often needs choosing carefully, so it works both ways. Unless we tread carefully (i.e. respectfully) in the approach there shouldn't be any offence taken, but if we don't then we deserve all we get. Of course this doesn't include people getting pissy about things just because they're excluded. It's often noticeable that people who's preferences exclude a black or Asian guy tend to be better/more thoughtfully put as it's easy to have that consideration come to mind due to racially inflammatory connotations, but we may not think that so readily in excluding someone who's white, but surely it has equal importance in terms of not risking giving offence. Respect should be universal in this world. (Not suggesting that's you by the way - I'm generalising). Humans are humans, irrespective of race or culture. If we say 'Black's only' it may sound harsh/rude, but if we say 'Our/my preference is for black guys only thank you' it may be potentially less inflammatory. Just an opinion. | |||
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" You better change your user name before the group chastises your There's nothing to chastise, some people have an issue with the term and some don't. Obviously the person in question doesn't have an issue with it. However there's a difference between not having an issue with it and referring to those who do as "snowflakes" You seem to have more of an issue with the term snowflakes than BBC. And likewise it’s an issue than doesn’t affect you just like me . " Race fetishising does affect me | |||
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"I was talking from the point of view she doesn’t have a big black cock . As I said earlier I only gave my personal opinion and I stated I am not affected by this . It’s just an opinion. And I am well used to racism being Irish ! Don’t forget the old saying - no blacks , no dogs , no Irish " You refered to people who have an issue with race fetishising as the "snow flake generation"..... | |||
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"I was talking from the point of view she doesn’t have a big black cock . As I said earlier I only gave my personal opinion and I stated I am not affected by this . It’s just an opinion. And I am well used to racism being Irish ! Don’t forget the old saying - no blacks , no dogs , no Irish " Your point is invalid as Irish people do not face the same level of racism as black people still do today. | |||
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"As always a subject that divides opinion.On this particular thread I have seen 2 guys with the term BBC in their username.If the 2 guys are comfortable with the idea perhaps they could tell us why they have BBC in their username it may help some to understand a bit better. " All they need to explain is that they don't have an issue with the term, which is upto them, they don't have to explain themselves. The same way that people who do have an issue with it shouldn't have to explain themselves either | |||
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"I was talking from the point of view she doesn’t have a big black cock . As I said earlier I only gave my personal opinion and I stated I am not affected by this . It’s just an opinion. And I am well used to racism being Irish ! Don’t forget the old saying - no blacks , no dogs , no Irish You refered to people who have an issue with race fetishising as the "snow flake generation"....." No I did not . I never used that term race fetishing . I said the snowflake generation are basically offended by everything . I was referring to the term bbc used in the context of some one looking for a bbc to ride | |||
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"I was talking from the point of view she doesn’t have a big black cock . As I said earlier I only gave my personal opinion and I stated I am not affected by this . It’s just an opinion. And I am well used to racism being Irish ! Don’t forget the old saying - no blacks , no dogs , no Irish Your point is invalid as Irish people do not face the same level of racism as black people still do today." That’s a huge generalisation and completely untrue | |||
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"As always a subject that divides opinion.On this particular thread I have seen 2 guys with the term BBC in their username.If the 2 guys are comfortable with the idea perhaps they could tell us why they have BBC in their username it may help some to understand a bit better. " It helps in search algorithm and I have a BBC. I take no issue with it because I know I am more than a BBC. | |||
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"I was talking from the point of view she doesn’t have a big black cock . As I said earlier I only gave my personal opinion and I stated I am not affected by this . It’s just an opinion. And I am well used to racism being Irish ! Don’t forget the old saying - no blacks , no dogs , no Irish Your point is invalid as Irish people do not face the same level of racism as black people still do today. That’s a huge generalisation and completely untrue " Really??? When your name is on, say job application, do people think 'no' straight away? If you're sat on public transport, before you have even spoken, do people chose a different seat? If and when you decide to have kids do you have to consider the area you live in or the experiences your child is going to have growing up? I'll bet its a no to all of these. However these are so of the things black people are going through in 2023 so it's not untrue is it. It may have nothing to do with the original post but it's very true regarding the outdated comparison you're trying to make. | |||
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"As always a subject that divides opinion.On this particular thread I have seen 2 guys with the term BBC in their username.If the 2 guys are comfortable with the idea perhaps they could tell us why they have BBC in their username it may help some to understand a bit better. It helps in search algorithm and I have a BBC. I take no issue with it because I know I am more than a BBC." . Great thanks for your contribution.Yes you are more than a BBC you are a man first and it’s you as a man and your character and personality that come first. | |||
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"I was talking from the point of view she doesn’t have a big black cock . As I said earlier I only gave my personal opinion and I stated I am not affected by this . It’s just an opinion. And I am well used to racism being Irish ! Don’t forget the old saying - no blacks , no dogs , no Irish You refered to people who have an issue with race fetishising as the "snow flake generation"..... No I did not . I never used that term race fetishing . I said the snowflake generation are basically offended by everything . I was referring to the term bbc used in the context of some one looking for a bbc to ride" You shouldn't have used the term snowflake at all as you have no experience on the topic so have no right to tell people how they should respond to it | |||
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"As always a subject that divides opinion.On this particular thread I have seen 2 guys with the term BBC in their username.If the 2 guys are comfortable with the idea perhaps they could tell us why they have BBC in their username it may help some to understand a bit better. It helps in search algorithm and I have a BBC. I take no issue with it because I know I am more than a BBC.. Great thanks for your contribution.Yes you are more than a BBC you are a man first and it’s you as a man and your character and personality that come first." ................................. ...that's pretty much the point though, referring to yourself as a large black cock, sort of sets the tone for the quality of the interaction and how others will regard you. | |||
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"As always a subject that divides opinion.On this particular thread I have seen 2 guys with the term BBC in their username.If the 2 guys are comfortable with the idea perhaps they could tell us why they have BBC in their username it may help some to understand a bit better. It helps in search algorithm and I have a BBC. I take no issue with it because I know I am more than a BBC.. Great thanks for your contribution.Yes you are more than a BBC you are a man first and it’s you as a man and your character and personality that come first. ................................. ...that's pretty much the point though, referring to yourself as a large black cock, sort of sets the tone for the quality of the interaction and how others will regard you." Then I'll set them straight | |||
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"I was talking from the point of view she doesn’t have a big black cock . As I said earlier I only gave my personal opinion and I stated I am not affected by this . It’s just an opinion. And I am well used to racism being Irish ! Don’t forget the old saying - no blacks , no dogs , no Irish You refered to people who have an issue with race fetishising as the "snow flake generation"..... No I did not . I never used that term race fetishing . I said the snowflake generation are basically offended by everything . I was referring to the term bbc used in the context of some one looking for a bbc to ride You shouldn't have used the term snowflake at all as you have no experience on the topic so have no right to tell people how they should respond to it " I am allowed an opinion . And you don’t get to control who calls who a snowflake a the world lol . I am entitled to my opinion the same as everyone else . Everyone has an equal opinion. | |||
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"I was talking from the point of view she doesn’t have a big black cock . As I said earlier I only gave my personal opinion and I stated I am not affected by this . It’s just an opinion. And I am well used to racism being Irish ! Don’t forget the old saying - no blacks , no dogs , no Irish You refered to people who have an issue with race fetishising as the "snow flake generation"..... No I did not . I never used that term race fetishing . I said the snowflake generation are basically offended by everything . I was referring to the term bbc used in the context of some one looking for a bbc to ride You shouldn't have used the term snowflake at all as you have no experience on the topic so have no right to tell people how they should respond to it I am allowed an opinion . And you don’t get to control who calls who a snowflake a the world lol . I am entitled to my opinion the same as everyone else . Everyone has an equal opinion. " Yes you're allowed an opinion but there was no need to be disrespectful and name call especially when your opinion is on a topic that will never affect you | |||
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"F**k them and their opinion. If that’s what you want/into so be it. Even worse they probably put more effort into showing their dislike to peoples wants than they do into interests of their own. " .............................. And here are you....expressing an opinion | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"?" Not only some white people have a problem with the term “bbc” but some black people. I think you have to be true to what you want and trust that there are other people who share your interests. And then get on with your pleasure. | |||
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"... We don't use the term to cause offense... Just that our preference for now is to find a black man with a big cock. That's probably more common than white men" To us, the issue is not that anyone feels more attracted to a particular ethnicity (or viceversa), which is fine. It is the way profiles describe what they are looking for: "we are looking for a unicorn"... "A phat ass", a "wet c++t", "a ginger pussy" a "BBC". It does not sound to us like those profiles are looking for a person, sound like looking for an object to use. Having said that, we do not hate nor object to people using those terms, so the above is one of many explanations why some people might not like the term BBC. | |||
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"Gosh the world is a minefield these days, soon we won’t be able to express any preferences or indeed utter any words, it’s all so exhausting!" This of it like this….. If you were looking for a black guy… would you ever use the “N” word in your descriptor? The problem has never been the preference….. I just don’t see that if you are looking for a “black guy with a big cock” …. Then just say you are looking for a black guy with a big cock! Last I checked fab doesn’t charge by the word… and I don’t think those few extra clicks are going to give you writers cramp! | |||
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"Gosh the world is a minefield these days, soon we won’t be able to express any preferences or indeed utter any words, it’s all so exhausting! This of it like this….. If you were looking for a black guy… would you ever use the “N” word in your descriptor? The problem has never been the preference….. I just don’t see that if you are looking for a “black guy with a big cock” …. Then just say you are looking for a black guy with a big cock! Last I checked fab doesn’t charge by the word… and I don’t think those few extra clicks are going to give you writers cramp! " I was talking generally and for your information I have never used the term! | |||
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"Gosh the world is a minefield these days, soon we won’t be able to express any preferences or indeed utter any words, it’s all so exhausting! This of it like this….. If you were looking for a black guy… would you ever use the “N” word in your descriptor? The problem has never been the preference….. I just don’t see that if you are looking for a “black guy with a big cock” …. Then just say you are looking for a black guy with a big cock! Last I checked fab doesn’t charge by the word… and I don’t think those few extra clicks are going to give you writers cramp! I was talking generally and for your information I have never used the term!" I am not saying you have used the term… but you can see how the language that people use be improved and interpreted You said it was tricky.. and you are right… but you or anyone else would never use the N word.. so we know that people can be taught. | |||
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"It’s just the snowflake generation / modern society where people get offended by everything and people even get offended on behalf of other people . I personally don’t see anything wrong with the term and if that’s your preference sex wise you are entitled to that preference . Well i think this in some cases is people being offended on behalf of themselves not others. There are back men being offended. Ditto with with fat old white man comment. It’s fine going around causing offence but also sometimes good as decent respectful human to be aware of how others feel about your language and sometimes adapt accordingly. Well unless you are somebody you just gets great joy from offending people and making them feel bad - and definitely some of those around. " Brilliantly put! In this day and age many are happy to offend, but we betide anyone says anything they don't like. It's the way of things on 2023, but makes it easier to avoid those who display those kind of double standards. | |||
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"Gosh the world is a minefield these days, soon we won’t be able to express any preferences or indeed utter any words, it’s all so exhausting! This of it like this….. If you were looking for a black guy… would you ever use the “N” word in your descriptor? The problem has never been the preference….. I just don’t see that if you are looking for a “black guy with a big cock” …. Then just say you are looking for a black guy with a big cock! Last I checked fab doesn’t charge by the word… and I don’t think those few extra clicks are going to give you writers cramp! " | |||
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"Gosh the world is a minefield these days, soon we won’t be able to express any preferences or indeed utter any words, it’s all so exhausting! This of it like this….. If you were looking for a black guy… would you ever use the “N” word in your descriptor? The problem has never been the preference….. I just don’t see that if you are looking for a “black guy with a big cock” …. Then just say you are looking for a black guy with a big cock! Last I checked fab doesn’t charge by the word… and I don’t think those few extra clicks are going to give you writers cramp! I was talking generally and for your information I have never used the term! I am not saying you have used the term… but you can see how the language that people use be improved and interpreted You said it was tricky.. and you are right… but you or anyone else would never use the N word.. so we know that people can be taught. " its easy people ... _abio i fancy a bit of black.... wrong _abio i want you bbc .... wrong _abio your hot as fuck .... we have a winner (sorry _abio) why cant we just talk to one another as humans rather than skin colour or race just because its sexual dont mean we should be any different in how we treat people ... we have sex with others because we find them hot and its fun ... preference is fine but there a way to approach and say thing without being wrong in the way we say it | |||
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"Gosh the world is a minefield these days, soon we won’t be able to express any preferences or indeed utter any words, it’s all so exhausting! This of it like this….. If you were looking for a black guy… would you ever use the “N” word in your descriptor? The problem has never been the preference….. I just don’t see that if you are looking for a “black guy with a big cock” …. Then just say you are looking for a black guy with a big cock! Last I checked fab doesn’t charge by the word… and I don’t think those few extra clicks are going to give you writers cramp! I was talking generally and for your information I have never used the term! I am not saying you have used the term… but you can see how the language that people use be improved and interpreted You said it was tricky.. and you are right… but you or anyone else would never use the N word.. so we know that people can be taught. its easy people ... _abio i fancy a bit of black.... wrong _abio i want you bbc .... wrong _abio your hot as fuck .... we have a winner (sorry _abio) why cant we just talk to one another as humans rather than skin colour or race just because its sexual dont mean we should be any different in how we treat people ... we have sex with others because we find them hot and its fun ... preference is fine but there a way to approach and say thing without being wrong in the way we say it" Exactly I attract alot of white men who prefer black women and that's fine, how ever as soon as race gets mentioned in their approach it puts me right off I couldn't imagine messaging a white guy and talking about his white dick and making reference to white coloured foods | |||
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"Lots of sensible people have made very eloquent answers above... so I'll try not so waffle. Op- if you're looking for a big cock- just say that. Then you won't risk offending anyone and it is specific to what you're looking for. Unless you're then preference is black men- then maybe say that too. Otherwise you're losing out on some potentially endowed willies of other races - and really- who wants to Miss out on good dick K X " Loooooooool | |||
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"Is this not the same as the term P.A.W.G ? White women call themselves this (some) is she reducing herself to her phat arse? " There’s a recent thread on exactly this. Same. | |||
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"Is this not the same as the term P.A.W.G ? White women call themselves this (some) is she reducing herself to her phat arse? " I’m not saying that’s a good term. I don’t like it either and it’s really cringe to me. But like the comparisons with the term BBW, it misses the fact that the term BBC is rooted in *historically* racist stereotypes that have been used to violently oppress Black men. It’s more than just about it reducing Black men to their penis | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"?" Probably because white men have big cocks too! | |||
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"Don’t think so Why is it that so many white women want big black hard cock? You boys must not be doing your job LOL" | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"?" There’s no ‘hate’ from me when I read a profile stating a preference for ‘BBC’, just a block. For me, if you messaged asking for a meet, the fact I see you prefer BBC tells me you can’t find a black guy, so I’ll always feel like a ‘Plan b’…. | |||
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"As a black man or man of colour that uses the term and has the term in his username. I think it comes down to the individual. I would not use the term in everyday life obviously, but I think on a sex site we are all reduced to our body parts in some way or the other, it is the first thing we see and what we are attracted to in the opposite person's. BBW reduces women to their size, P.W.A.G reduces white women to their arse size and whiteness, same as BWC your reducing him to his cock and whiteness. Even the term "hung" and "black" or "white" It's all the same. Your on a sex site to meet and have sex, engage in something different out of your everyday life. I think people are a bit too sensitive. Your upset with a term because you think your being used for your cock ! Hello ! We are all being used on this site by each other !" I think this is very well said. | |||
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"We seem to get quite a bit of hate (usually from white people) for our desire to find only black men for Miss to play with. Why is this? And why is it that only white people have a problem with us looking for and using the term "BBC"?" It is a jealousy from white guys with issues because you’re excluding them openly. We have had it ourselves and some get quite abusive. Like that will change our preference or improve their tepid erections. You just have to accept that there are some people on here filled with envy and hate. | |||
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"Intelligent piece but isn’t all sexual preference a result of our own upbringing and history too?" ................................. It may well be, but it doesn't necessarily follow that we've been influenced by positive experiences. | |||
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"Intelligent piece but isn’t all sexual preference a result of our own upbringing and history too?" .................................. Ps the issue isn't about having a racial preference btw, it's how that preference is often expressed eg BBC | |||
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