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By *edi123 OP Couple over a year ago

aberystwyth

So ….. if a straight guy sleeps with a trans girl, is he gay? We like to keep and open mind and not put a label on it but just wanted to know peoples thoughts?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Potential minefield and don't wish to offend anyone. My take would be post op trans - straight. Pre op - bisexual\gay.

As I say personal opinion and not intended to offend.

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By *ablo minibar123Woman over a year ago

In my mind I guess it depends how far they have transitioned

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By *enuinebiMan over a year ago

Wellingborough

I consider it to be bisexual, I don't consider myself gay as I'm not solely attracted to men but attracted to the sexual experience whatever.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It depends on whether sexual orientation comes down solely to genitalia I guess. Someone who has had sex with a another of the same physical gender - to me - isn’t gay or prob not bi either unless they are attracted to their characteristics.

People are more than sex acts, as is orientation.

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By *ebanbetsyCouple over a year ago

merseyside

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By *ebanbetsyCouple over a year ago

merseyside

Suppose bi but if caught up in the moment

It don’t matter

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By *lexV16Man over a year ago

Welling

"So ….. if a straight guy sleeps with a trans girl, is he gay? We like to keep and open mind and not put a label on it but just wanted to know peoples thoughts? "

No, he isn’t gay just because of that. Sexual act between male and trans girl isn’t gay act itself as well.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think sexual orientation is about sex. So yes I'd say gay/bi. Other people think sexual orientation is now about gender so they might not see any difference.

It really only matters what the people involved thing though and if they're happy.

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

"I think sexual orientation is about sex. So yes I'd say gay/bi. Other people think sexual orientation is now about gender so they might not see any difference.

It really only matters what the people involved thing though and if they're happy."

I think the clue is in the word 'sexual' but don't forget the pan-sexuals

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By *9alMan over a year ago

Bridgend

"So ….. if a straight guy sleeps with a trans girl, is he gay? We like to keep and open mind and not put a label on it but just wanted to know peoples thoughts? "

if they both enjoy it who cares?

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By *edi123 OP Couple over a year ago

aberystwyth

It’s such a mine field but what happens behind closed doors stays behind closed doors. Not sure it needs labelling to be honest as it’s not fair on the trans..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You'd need to define what you meant by "gay" first

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So ….. if a straight guy sleeps with a trans girl, is he gay? We like to keep and open mind and not put a label on it but just wanted to know peoples thoughts? "

If the trans female has a pussy and tits, a man having sex with her is not gay. A trans female is a female...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think sexual orientation is about sex. So yes I'd say gay/bi. Other people think sexual orientation is now about gender so they might not see any difference.

It really only matters what the people involved thing though and if they're happy.

I think the clue is in the word 'sexual' but don't forget the pan-sexuals

Stonewall redefined sexual orientation to be about gender not sex. I don't agree with their definition (and suspect you don't either) but some people think otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So ….. if a straight guy sleeps with a trans girl, is he gay? We like to keep and open mind and not put a label on it but just wanted to know peoples thoughts?

If the trans female has a pussy and tits, a man having sex with her is not gay. A trans female is a female..."

So defining people entirely by genitals?

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By *edi123 OP Couple over a year ago

aberystwyth

"So ….. if a straight guy sleeps with a trans girl, is he gay? We like to keep and open mind and not put a label on it but just wanted to know peoples thoughts?

If the trans female has a pussy and tits, a man having sex with her is not gay. A trans female is a female...

So defining people entirely by genitals?"

Transsexual, penis and breasts?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So ….. if a straight guy sleeps with a trans girl, is he gay? We like to keep and open mind and not put a label on it but just wanted to know peoples thoughts?

If the trans female has a pussy and tits, a man having sex with her is not gay. A trans female is a female...

So defining people entirely by genitals?"

Is that not the whole point of a man getting his penis and testicles removed in order to have a female pussy and breasts .. Because he wants to be Female...

I am not defining anyone by their genitals...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So ….. if a straight guy sleeps with a trans girl, is he gay? We like to keep and open mind and not put a label on it but just wanted to know peoples thoughts?

If the trans female has a pussy and tits, a man having sex with her is not gay. A trans female is a female...

So defining people entirely by genitals?

Is that not the whole point of a man getting his penis and testicles removed in order to have a female pussy and breasts .. Because he wants to be Female...

I am not defining anyone by their genitals..."

Is being female = tits/pussy? You literally just said that. I'm a bit bemused.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So ….. if a straight guy sleeps with a trans girl, is he gay? We like to keep and open mind and not put a label on it but just wanted to know peoples thoughts?

If the trans female has a pussy and tits, a man having sex with her is not gay. A trans female is a female...

So defining people entirely by genitals?

Is that not the whole point of a man getting his penis and testicles removed in order to have a female pussy and breasts .. Because he wants to be Female...

I am not defining anyone by their genitals..."

A more than slightly reductive explanation

My trans son has no desire to have surgery to construct a penis. One's gender is not solely about genitals

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

'One's gender is not solely about genitals'

Exactly and succinctly put.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Who gives a crap if you think he's gay or not? What matters is do you think he's has lots of unprotected sex with other people. If you have a gut feeling he has avoid like the plague. Your health is worth more than any gender nonsense.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Who gives a crap if you think he's gay or not? What matters is do you think he's has lots of unprotected sex with other people. If you have a gut feeling he has avoid like the plague. Your health is worth more than any gender nonsense."

Who mentioned unprotected sex?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"'One's gender is not solely about genitals'

Exactly and succinctly put.

Don't you mean "gender identity"?

I am not sure why you and others are having a go at me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"'One's gender is not solely about genitals'

Exactly and succinctly put.

Don't you mean "gender identity"?

I am not sure why you and others are having a go at me.

I asked a question. I don't know why you think I am attacking you.

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By *nkyCplCouple over a year ago

Northampton

Most definitely bi for me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"'One's gender is not solely about genitals'

Exactly and succinctly put.

Don't you mean "gender identity"?

I am not sure why you and others are having a go at me.

I'm not having a go, just pointing out that there's more to a person-whatever their gender-than their genitals

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By *attz37Man over a year ago

NORWICH

Lucky?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"'One's gender is not solely about genitals'

Exactly and succinctly put.

Don't you mean "gender identity"?

I am not sure why you and others are having a go at me.

I apologise if it came across as if I was aiming my comment directly at you. That was not my intent and I should have been clearer in what I meant.

And your right it could also be said as 'gender identity is not solely about genitals'.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I find that I'm attracted to feminine bodies, and looks. What's between their legs isn't what I look for, it's the feminine presentation and mentality.

I do also enjoy a female with male genitalia, arguably more than with female genitalia.

I wouldn't say it's gay, as the sight of a man's face and body does nothing for me unless it's presented as feminine. Gave up trying to put a word to it a long time ago.

Tldr: I like the female form, but also enjoy a cock.

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By *nkyCplCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"I find that I'm attracted to feminine bodies, and looks. What's between their legs isn't what I look for, it's the feminine presentation and mentality.

I do also enjoy a female with male genitalia, arguably more than with female genitalia.

I wouldn't say it's gay, as the sight of a man's face and body does nothing for me unless it's presented as feminine. Gave up trying to put a word to it a long time ago.

Tldr: I like the female form, but also enjoy a cock."

Would that not be bi/pan sexual?

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By *tephTV67TV/TS over a year ago

Cheshire

"I find that I'm attracted to feminine bodies, and looks. What's between their legs isn't what I look for, it's the feminine presentation and mentality.

I do also enjoy a female with male genitalia, arguably more than with female genitalia.

I wouldn't say it's gay, as the sight of a man's face and body does nothing for me unless it's presented as feminine. Gave up trying to put a word to it a long time ago.

Tldr: I like the female form, but also enjoy a cock."

Androphilia describes sexual attraction to men or masculinity; gynephilia describes the sexual attraction to women or femininity.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't believe so. From what I understand, pansexual would mean I can be attracted to men who present themselves as men, which is not the case

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Gynephilia...I think that's the word then

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By *ittle MonkeysCouple over a year ago

Kimberley

When I think of some of the amazingly feminine Thai ladyboys I find them very attractive but I don’t believe that makes me gay. It’s the feminine characteristics that draw me in so I would argu that makes me straight.

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By *immikatWoman over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

No we just have a built in strap on straight means you're attracted to the opposite sex not just their genitals. Lots of straight guys live arse play. If you don't fancy cis men and you fancy cis females snd trans females YOU'RE STRAIGHT

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By *immikatWoman over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"Gynephilia...I think that's the word then

Yes attracted to feminine

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By *leased to meet youTV/TS over a year ago

Southend-on-Sea

So I class myself as bisexual as I'm not attracted to men but am attracted to tvs trans. Yes I love cock and pussy

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By *nkyCplCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"snd trans females YOU'RE STRAIGHT"

Personally disagree with this, but I don’t think it really matters. So long as you all consent and find it hot then fuck who you like.

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By *ustSomeDarkieMan over a year ago

Salford

I like women and tgirls

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By *immikatWoman over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"snd trans females YOU'RE STRAIGHT

Personally disagree with this, but I don’t think it really matters. So long as you all consent and find it hot then fuck who you like.

Unless your basing it all on genitalia... what if the person you like is intersex but female presenting? Does that make you gay? Absolutely not.

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By *nkyCplCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"snd trans females YOU'RE STRAIGHT

Personally disagree with this, but I don’t think it really matters. So long as you all consent and find it hot then fuck who you like.

Unless your basing it all on genitalia... what if the person you like is intersex but female presenting? Does that make you gay? Absolutely not. "

I’m basing it on the biological markers. For me if a guy is happy to play with a trans female then he’s bi/curious/pan.

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By *immikatWoman over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

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By *immikatWoman over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"snd trans females YOU'RE STRAIGHT

Personally disagree with this, but I don’t think it really matters. So long as you all consent and find it hot then fuck who you like.

Unless your basing it all on genitalia... what if the person you like is intersex but female presenting? Does that make you gay? Absolutely not.

I’m basing it on the biological markers. For me if a guy is happy to play with a trans female then he’s bi/curious/pan."

Nope, I don't know a single guy who is solely attracted to women cis and trans that identifies as znything but straight.

Everyone has an opinion. Some people are wrong

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By *nkyCplCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"snd trans females YOU'RE STRAIGHT

Personally disagree with this, but I don’t think it really matters. So long as you all consent and find it hot then fuck who you like.

Unless your basing it all on genitalia... what if the person you like is intersex but female presenting? Does that make you gay? Absolutely not.

I’m basing it on the biological markers. For me if a guy is happy to play with a trans female then he’s bi/curious/pan.

Nope, I don't know a single guy who is solely attracted to women cis and trans that identifies as znything but straight.

Everyone has an opinion. Some people are wrong

Apologies, but the first paragraph didn’t make much sense to me.

You’re more than entitled to disagree.

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By *immikatWoman over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"snd trans females YOU'RE STRAIGHT

Personally disagree with this, but I don’t think it really matters. So long as you all consent and find it hot then fuck who you like.

Unless your basing it all on genitalia... what if the person you like is intersex but female presenting? Does that make you gay? Absolutely not.

I’m basing it on the biological markers. For me if a guy is happy to play with a trans female then he’s bi/curious/pan.

Nope, I don't know a single guy who is solely attracted to women cis and trans that identifies as znything but straight.

Everyone has an opinion. Some people are wrong

Apologies, but the first paragraph didn’t make much sense to me.

You’re more than entitled to disagree.

I'm rushing and typing. I do disagree wholeheartedly. As a Trans woman all my bfs/partners have identified as straight.

If a straight man enjoys his partner using a strap on to reach his g spot is he bi?

Bi means you're attracted to both men and women. Which would indicate you believe trans women aren't complete women, but partly male. Kinda transphobic... sorry if I've misunderstood and for my awful grammar but I respectively disagree.

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By *nkyCplCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"I'm rushing and typing. I do disagree wholeheartedly. As a Trans woman all my bfs/partners have identified as straight.

If a straight man enjoys his partner using a strap on to reach his g spot is he bi?

I don’t doubt they do/did. It’s the opposite for male friends.

I don’t get the logic regarding the strapon, but no as it’s a biological female using.

There is NOTHING transphobic in anything I’ve said. You’d have to define what you mean by a “complete woman” if you wanted me to answer in good faith.

Don’t think there’s too much wrong with your grammar tbh and we don’t have to agree, just both be civil.

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By *nkyCplCouple over a year ago

Northampton

*opposite for my male friends.

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By *s-two-75Couple over a year ago

"So ….. if a straight guy sleeps with a trans girl, is he gay? We like to keep and open mind and not put a label on it but just wanted to know peoples thoughts? "

Why would it make him gay? Even she was pre op

And he was interested playing with her cock, He may still like women too so wouldn’t automatically make him gay.

A guy can also be attracted to a guy and still not be gay as he may be into women too. Yes it happens..

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By *immikatWoman over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"So ….. if a straight guy sleeps with a trans girl, is he gay? We like to keep and open mind and not put a label on it but just wanted to know peoples thoughts?

Why would it make him gay? Even she was pre op

And he was interested playing with her cock, He may still like women too so wouldn’t automatically make him gay.

A guy can also be attracted to a guy and still not be gay as he may be into women too. Yes it happens..

That was my point, we have the same opinion

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By *s-two-75Couple over a year ago

"So ….. if a straight guy sleeps with a trans girl, is he gay? We like to keep and open mind and not put a label on it but just wanted to know peoples thoughts?

Why would it make him gay? Even she was pre op

And he was interested playing with her cock, He may still like women too so wouldn’t automatically make him gay.

A guy can also be attracted to a guy and still not be gay as he may be into women too. Yes it happens..

That was my point, we have the same opinion"

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By *nkyCplCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"So ….. if a straight guy sleeps with a trans girl, is he gay? We like to keep and open mind and not put a label on it but just wanted to know peoples thoughts?

Why would it make him gay? Even she was pre op

And he was interested playing with her cock, He may still like women too so wouldn’t automatically make him gay.

A guy can also be attracted to a guy and still not be gay as he may be into women too. Yes it happens..

Would you say they were straight, or something else?

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By *immikatWoman over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"I'm rushing and typing. I do disagree wholeheartedly. As a Trans woman all my bfs/partners have identified as straight.

If a straight man enjoys his partner using a strap on to reach his g spot is he bi?

I don’t doubt they do/did. It’s the opposite for male friends.

I don’t get the logic regarding the strapon, but no as it’s a biological female using.

There is NOTHING transphobic in anything I’ve said. You’d have to define what you mean by a “complete woman” if you wanted me to answer in good faith.

Don’t think there’s too much wrong with your grammar tbh and we don’t have to agree, just both be civil.

Talking about biological markers, as an indication of how your sexual attraction is categorised when talking about trans women is transphobic in my humble opinion.

I'm happy to agree, to disagree.

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By *inkForLifeCouple over a year ago

North Shields

No idea! I (m) like sucking cock, but I don't fancy men etc.

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By *nkyCplCouple over a year ago

Northampton

Talking about biological markers, as an indication of how your sexual attraction is categorised when talking about trans women is transphobic in my humble opinion.

I'm happy to agree, to disagree.

Can you please explain what you mean? If you answer my question about what you mean by a “complete woman” it will likely help clear up any confusion.

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By *lice AgainTV/TS over a year ago

Bristol

I don't really understand why people care.

Have sex with people you're attracted to and have fun with.

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By *nkyCplCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"I don't really understand why people care.

Have sex with people you're attracted to and have fun with.

Boom! Nailed it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Cant say i think it matters

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By *immikatWoman over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"I don't really understand why people care.

Have sex with people you're attracted to and have fun with.

Boom! Nailed it.

I agree

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By *azzling100Man over a year ago

killarney

It's all fun at the end if the day

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By *alandNitaCouple over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"So ….. if a straight guy sleeps with a trans girl, is he gay? We like to keep and open mind and not put a label on it but just wanted to know peoples thoughts? "

It will depend on people's perspective.

In my mind a post op trans woman is a woman. In this case sex with a straight man is not bi or gay.

Pre op, is less simple because a straight man is probably less likely view accept them as a woman from a sex point of view.

At the end of the day, I really don't see that it matters, as long as both parties enjoy themselves.

Nita

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By *nkyCplCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"So ….. if a straight guy sleeps with a trans girl, is he gay? We like to keep and open mind and not put a label on it but just wanted to know peoples thoughts?

It will depend on people's perspective.

In my mind a post op trans woman is a woman. In this case sex with a straight man is not bi or gay.

Pre op, is less simple because a straight man is probably less likely view accept them as a woman from a sex point of view.

At the end of the day, I really don't see that it matters, as long as both parties enjoy themselves.

Nita

While I don’t think we completely agree we most certainly do on your last point. Live and let fuck I say!

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By *rlandoMan over a year ago

Lincolnshire

???????? why do you care

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By *nkyCplCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"???????? why do you care "

Opened up an interesting debate.

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By *immikatWoman over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

"So ….. if a straight guy sleeps with a trans girl, is he gay? We like to keep and open mind and not put a label on it but just wanted to know peoples thoughts?

It will depend on people's perspective.

In my mind a post op trans woman is a woman. In this case sex with a straight man is not bi or gay.

Pre op, is less simple because a straight man is probably less likely view accept them as a woman from a sex point of view.

At the end of the day, I really don't see that it matters, as long as both parties enjoy themselves.

Nita

All my partners have identified as straight and my genitalia did not matter to any of them. Saying a post op trans woman is a woman bit it's more complicated with pre op? Do you know some of the reasons people don't have that surgery. It doesn't make us any less of a woman. Wow

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

"Gynephilia...I think that's the word then

Sorry to butt in but to me cock is very masculine though?

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By *nkyCplCouple over a year ago

Northampton

A lot of people don’t agree.

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By *edi123 OP Couple over a year ago

aberystwyth

It was more for discussion purpose than anything else

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By *adCherriesCouple over a year ago

Cheshire/Northwest

I wouldn't say they are straight but bi because as a straight woman I wouldn't fuck a woman identifying as a man (are there any on here? Intrigued) as I'm attracted to actual cock and more masculine figure (big hands, tall, body etc)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A lot of people don’t agree."

A lot of people are wrong

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"'One's gender is not solely about genitals'

Exactly and succinctly put.

Don't you mean "gender identity"?

I am not sure why you and others are having a go at me.

This subject is like stepping into a minefield l reckon , everyone has different views ,no definite correct answer, l don't try to understand it ,l just live it.attractiveness is not easily worked out , still ,its a good question! Certainly sparks some interesting answers!

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By *amLaraCroftWoman over a year ago

London

"It’s such a mine field but what happens behind closed doors stays behind closed doors. Not sure it needs labelling to be honest as it’s not fair on the trans.."

I agree I think needing to label it can be unnecessary but if I was forced I would just say pansexual

I think if you have a connection and feel like playing go for it

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By *ennylewis2016Couple over a year ago

Birmingham

We’re looking for a tgirl in the midlands

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By *nkyCplCouple over a year ago

Northampton

A lot of people don’t agree.

A lot of people are wrong

What bit are they wrong on?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A lot of people don’t agree.

A lot of people are wrong

What bit are they wrong on?"

Someone has made a claim. You say you disagree with the claim. The burden is on you to explain why you disagree.

The Cambridge Dictionary defines "woman" as "an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth".

There's nothing about surgery or genitals in there.

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By *immikatWoman over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

A lot of people don’t agree."

A lot of people don't you're right like terfs.

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By *immikatWoman over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

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By *immikatWoman over a year ago

Ely Cambridgeshire

A lot of people don’t agree.

A lot of people are wrong

What bit are they wrong on?

Someone has made a claim. You say you disagree with the claim. The burden is on you to explain why you disagree.

The Cambridge Dictionary defines "woman" as "an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth".

There's nothing about surgery or genitals in there."

Perfectly put

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By *nkyCplCouple over a year ago

Northampton

A lot of people don’t agree.

A lot of people are wrong

What bit are they wrong on?

Someone has made a claim. You say you disagree with the claim. The burden is on you to explain why you disagree.

The Cambridge Dictionary defines "woman" as "an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth".

There's nothing about surgery or genitals in there."

The burden is on them to prove the claim, not me to disprove it.

I disagree with being called a transphobe and am waiting on said person explaining why and what they mean by a “complete woman”, but you’ve answered in good faith so I’ll do the same.

I see trans women as that, trans women. I’m not sure why that’s deemed as transphobic. Personally I think it’s something to be proud of. You ladies have had a hell of a journey, sacrificed lots, put in some seriously hard work and have been super brave. Isn’t that why there’s trans pride, the “t” in LGBTQIA etc?

Also yourself and the other lass call yourselves “trans women” and have set your bios as such.

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By *nkyCplCouple over a year ago

Northampton

A lot of people don’t agree.

A lot of people don't you're right like terfs."

Thankfully I’m not one of them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A lot of people don’t agree.

A lot of people are wrong

What bit are they wrong on?

Someone has made a claim. You say you disagree with the claim. The burden is on you to explain why you disagree.

The Cambridge Dictionary defines "woman" as "an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth".

There's nothing about surgery or genitals in there.

The burden is on them to prove the claim, not me to disprove it.

I disagree with being called a transphobe and am waiting on said person explaining why and what they mean by a “complete woman”, but you’ve answered in good faith so I’ll do the same.

Also yourself and the other lass call yourselves “trans women” and have set your bios as such. "

Well said

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By *hegirlwiththepeachtattooWoman over a year ago

I just want to send hugs to the trans women reading this thread.

Trans women are women. Saying a trans woman is less of a woman because she hasn’t had surgery is transphobic, whether you consider yourself to be transphobic or not.

Back to the original question, i view sexuality as a spectrum, it’s not as black and white as being gay/bi/straight. If a man only fancies women (trans or otherwise), he’s straight. However there are more than 2 genders, creating an awful lot of grey areas.

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By *nkyCplCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"I just want to send hugs to the trans women reading this thread.

Trans women are women. Saying a trans woman is less of a woman because she hasn’t had surgery is transphobic, whether you consider yourself to be transphobic or not.

Please do explain how I’m transphobic and point out clearly what I’ve said to give that opinion.

You have no idea about my sexuality. It would be like me calling you biphobic, whether you consider yourself to be or not.

You literally stated “I just want to send hugs to the trans women reading this thread.” By your own logic that must mean you’re transphobic, or you would simply refer to them as “women”.

Stop trying to accuse everyone that respectfully disagrees of being some sort of phobe.

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By *hegirlwiththepeachtattooWoman over a year ago

"I just want to send hugs to the trans women reading this thread.

Trans women are women. Saying a trans woman is less of a woman because she hasn’t had surgery is transphobic, whether you consider yourself to be transphobic or not.

Please do explain how I’m transphobic and point out clearly what I’ve said to give that opinion.

You have no idea about my sexuality. It would be like me calling you biphobic, whether you consider yourself to be or not.

You literally stated “I just want to send hugs to the trans women reading this thread.” By your own logic that must mean you’re transphobic, or you would simply refer to them as “women”.

Stop trying to accuse everyone that respectfully disagrees of being some sort of phobe. "

Your sexuality is irrelevant, no idea why you’ve brought that up.

I’m sending love to trans women because there have been statements made in this thread that could be upsetting for them. Those statements would not necessarily be upsetting for cis women. It is not offensive to call a trans woman a trans woman, in the same way it’s not offensive to identify a woman as cis either. It IS offensive, and transphobic, to imply a trans woman is less of a woman based on whether she has had gender affirming surgery. Like I said before, just because you don’t like being called transphobic, doesn’t mean you aren’t being just that.

Once again, sending love to those who might have been hurt by comments made here. Just not the transphobes