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By *ensual OP   Man  over a year ago

Sutton

I was on an erotic rope workshop today, hosted at Anatomie and run by a guy who has written a book on rope Kamasutra.

It was an awesome workshop and was really revelatory and has immediately helped my rope style, firstly in positioning and second in process.

What was your favourite kink workshop or revelatory kink learning experience.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Shibaricon, back in the day. Some amazing people, doing amazing things

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By *ensual OP   Man  over a year ago

Sutton

I have seen some videos of past events online, it must have been awesome!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have seen some videos of past events online, it must have been awesome!"

Are you thinking of BonCon or FetCon?

I don't recall filming happening at Shibaricon, but it might have in later years

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Once went to a rope museum at chatum dock yard, I imagine it was a very similar day out did you get a new pencil and a rubber at the gift shop too.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Once went to a rope museum at chatum dock yard, I imagine it was a very similar day out did you get a new pencil and a rubber at the gift shop too."

The Master Rope Makers were an awesome crew, still are I think, the rope walk was amazing. I miss living close enough to visit

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By *onnyadtMan  over a year ago

Uttoxeter

A skill I would absolutely love to learn. A bit envious right now, op.

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By *elkieWoman  over a year ago

Durham

I think my favourites so far have been Psychology of Rope, and a sadistic rope workshop. I did String Fling when I was new to rigging though, learnt a lot from that.

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By *ensual OP   Man  over a year ago

Sutton


"I have seen some videos of past events online, it must have been awesome!

Are you thinking of BonCon or FetCon?

I don't recall filming happening at Shibaricon, but it might have in later years "

I saw the videos 4 or 5 years ago,and my memory says they were headed Shibaricon, but I would not swear to it.

By coincidence I was at Medway Towns Peer Rope last Thursday and I was talking to someone who said he was part of the team with W D and others, on the first few Shibaricons. I did not get his FL name but he said he was involved in the Derby scene back in the day.

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By *ensual OP   Man  over a year ago

Sutton


"I think my favourites so far have been Psychology of Rope, and a sadistic rope workshop. I did String Fling when I was new to rigging though, learnt a lot from that. "

I have Sin's book on the psychology of rope, but I am yet to do a course. I would love to do a sadistic rope workshop. I did an online semenawa workshop by Wildties hosted by WD. But did not understand it. I am thinking of getting 1 to 1 tuition on sadistic rope. What was String Fling?

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By *icentiousCouple  over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Truthfully l find this a tad odd.

Crafted rope bondage (to me) is about sensual anticipation, as there is more restraint the more anticipation.

Knowledge around pressure points is a must.

And I never have understood who thought the masters how to master.

Think if the last rope exposes the clit?

Still I’m not a guru

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By *ensual OP   Man  over a year ago

Sutton


"Truthfully l find this a tad odd.

Crafted rope bondage (to me) is about sensual anticipation, as there is more restraint the more anticipation.

Knowledge around pressure points is a must.

And I never have understood who thought the masters how to master.

Think if the last rope exposes the clit?

Still I’m not a guru"

The rope world is diverse and there many views. I would be interested in other peoples views. In my reading, you have broadly Western rope. Japanese rope and even Chinese rope.

Warning full on geekery follows.

Within these categories you have performance rope, and bedroom rope. There are also spiritual rope practitioners, and rope for well being. In Western rope you have 'damsel in distress" style of rope.

There is the porno rope in the Western and Japanese styles (in the Japanese style) it it is akin to performance rope.

Western rope has names such as Lew Rubens and Lee Harrington amongst many others as being in the vanguard (this is a brief summary).

My preference is Japanese style rope, and knowledge of pressure points may be helpful but not essential (I have been on two workshops on pressure points). It is more important to know anatomy from a safety standpoint: nerves, circulation, joints etc.

Japanese style rope is derived from various rope enthusiasts (read perverts) who looked at past Japanese tortures (suspension, pressing, shrimp to name a few) and pulled together ways of tying. These ties have become more complex and safer over the years There is a view that some Western rope (e g the armbinder) was incorporated into the Japanese style. An influence being John Willie there also other sources.

I have mentioned Seiu Itoh in another post who is seen as one of the forerunners of kinbaku early in the 20 century. Post World War 2 there are the grandmasters, Akechi Denki, Yukimari Haruki, Naka Akira, Osada Ekechi, Chimuo Nureki, Arisue Go, Randa Mai and others. They all have different ways of tying, from mainly sadistic to mainly erotic.

From these figures there are noted other figures, most people in the rope scene who go to events have heard of Hajime Kinoko, Ottonawa, and Osada Steve.

Who is a master? I get the impression it is being judged by your peers in japan, where the scene works in a particular way.

Although I have a huge interest for Japanese style rope. At the end of the day I am not part of the shibari police. Rope for me is a dance. It starts before the first rope is touched and ends only when the rope marks disappear. I don't care how other people dance as long as they enjoying themselves. There is no one way to do rope in my view. I attend a peer rope where three different styles are on display. Someone who does brilliant pretty rope, someone who does great functional rope, and me doing my thing.

People should not be intimidated about rope. Learn about safety and consent and get tying. Although there good Internet resources out there, I always recommend in person teaching.

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By *elkieWoman  over a year ago

Durham


"Truthfully l find this a tad odd.

Crafted rope bondage (to me) is about sensual anticipation, as there is more restraint the more anticipation.

Knowledge around pressure points is a must.

And I never have understood who thought the masters how to master.

Think if the last rope exposes the clit?

Still I’m not a guru"

I’m not trying to sound snobby, but…this is the difference between rope people and everyone else.

Rope, the way the people inspired by Shibari teach and practice it, is a shared experience, almost like a shared meditation? It’s about being fully present in the moment, feeling sensation and responding authentically to it, whether that’s sexual, sensual, sadistic, or funny. Good rope is as satisfying as a gangbang, and I don’t even have to take my clothes off.

But I have never met someone who’s not into rope who can understand this. It seems to baffle people, the idea that the rope itself is the point.

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By *elkieWoman  over a year ago

Durham

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By *etcplCouple  over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

I’ve done a few workshops, some have helped inspire, some have helped expand on existing knowledge.

The one that I remember the most and go back to was a freestlye/ground rope workshop done by Rope Office Hours in Leeds.

Sadly I believe some issues came to light about the guest tutor after the fact, but it doesn’t detract from the simple concept that you don’t have to be doing a “particular tie” to enjoy rope and that its the connection between the people involved thats important. My ties were abominations, but we had fun.

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By *elkieWoman  over a year ago

Durham


"I’ve done a few workshops, some have helped inspire, some have helped expand on existing knowledge.

The one that I remember the most and go back to was a freestlye/ground rope workshop done by Rope Office Hours in Leeds.

Sadly I believe some issues came to light about the guest tutor after the fact, but it doesn’t detract from the simple concept that you don’t have to be doing a “particular tie” to enjoy rope and that its the connection between the people involved thats important. My ties were abominations, but we had fun."

Huh. I’m wondering if we’ve met, I did that workshop too.

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By *ensual OP   Man  over a year ago

Sutton


"I’ve done a few workshops, some have helped inspire, some have helped expand on existing knowledge.

The one that I remember the most and go back to was a freestlye/ground rope workshop done by Rope Office Hours in Leeds.

Sadly I believe some issues came to light about the guest tutor after the fact, but it doesn’t detract from the simple concept that you don’t have to be doing a “particular tie” to enjoy rope and that its the connection between the people involved thats important. My ties were abominations, but we had fun."

I always start with one rope tying, it normally has a starting knot, the rest is frictions. It looks messy, impossible to photograph yourself because it is not the look of the tie but the rapport with the person being tied. My latest pictures taken by a third party give a flavour of it.

I did a weekend course in Nottingham where they had a high profile guest tutor who is now off of everyone's Xmas list.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have seen some videos of past events online, it must have been awesome!

Are you thinking of BonCon or FetCon?

I don't recall filming happening at Shibaricon, but it might have in later years

I saw the videos 4 or 5 years ago,and my memory says they were headed Shibaricon, but I would not swear to it.

By coincidence I was at Medway Towns Peer Rope last Thursday and I was talking to someone who said he was part of the team with W D and others, on the first few Shibaricons. I did not get his FL name but he said he was involved in the Derby scene back in the day."

The list would be small as there were only four of us there from the UK that year

I believe I know the rigger you're talking about

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