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"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results " I'm two years older than you. I'm not 25. I don't the body of a Greek God. I don't have a 9 inch cock. I do have 100+ meet verifications. I did work my arse off to get them though and used every opportunity the site provides for me. Winston | |||
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"And your part of a couple" "I". Not "we". Winston. | |||
"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results I'm two years older than you. I'm not 25. I don't the body of a Greek God. I don't have a 9 inch cock. I do have 100+ meet verifications. I did work my arse off to get them though and used every opportunity the site provides for me. Winston" Agreed. It doesn't just turn up on your doorstep. It takes work and above all honesty!  | |||
"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results " Make it work to go to your local club or social it is very difficult even for couples to get a private meet with genuine people. | |||
"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results Make it work to go to your local club or social it is very difficult even for couples to get a private meet with genuine people." I have been on here for a few years and I'm not the most glamorous person. But I still have fun and have met some very nice people on here. I do get quite a few nasty messages but I just delete and move on. Life's what you make it.  | |||
"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results " Can't give profile advice as you've not asked for it, but do you think anyone is going to interested based on yours? Or maybe this was just a plea for a pity shag. (Bry) | |||
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"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results " I'm really really struggling to see why you would post this, given the amount of verifications you have. Or was this just a notice me I'm still here post? | |||
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"When I look at fab, and how members are put down by others for their opinions, on a swinging site, I see why some may think its a waste of time." I guess it depends on what you think swinging is. Getting your dick wet, purely because you joined Fab, with zero effort put in. Or..... Finding people where there's a mutual attraction, shared interests and desires, where you take time to build a connection and trust, long before you even think of being in the same room, let alone getting naked. First one or second one? Winston | |||
"When I look at fab, and how members are put down by others for their opinions, on a swinging site, I see why some may think its a waste of time." It can be pretty savage, but internet fora always have that at times  | |||
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"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results " None of my meets have been 25 year old lottery winners with 9" cocks 
Some of my meets have been with people whos profiles were quite bland but I liked their chat, positive people are fun to be around | |||
"Looks like it is "Probably | |||
"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results " One of the first guys I ever met from here was as you described OP and wanted to meet me for a social but I wasn't keen, as something didn't feel right when we were speaking. I agreed to meet socially on my way home from work, as we passed through the same area. I figured it was not such a big deal, as was going to be there anyway. I knew within two minutes that I wasn't interested. The fact that he was stereotypically tall dark and handsome, the "Greek god" body you described with a large(r) manhood made zero difference to me. Those physical and financial things you mentioned OP aren't the be all and end all for everyone. Some of us don't even have them on our list of requirements. If I don't enjoy talking to you, I won't want to be in your company. So nothing more will happen. Irrespective of your looks or finances. I have no desire to be laying in bed with someone afterwards I can't talk to and if I can't talk to you, we won't make it to bed anyway. | |||
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"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results " | |||
"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results " I’m not looking for a 25 year old (way too young), Greek god (wait, do they come with beards?!?) 9+inch, (way too big), and a lottery winner is just another way of saying rich I guess, and that’s certainly not on my list of reasons to meet people, so no, I disagree. | |||
"When I look at fab, and how members are put down by others for their opinions, on a swinging site, I see why some may think its a waste of time. I guess it depends on what you think swinging is. Getting your dick wet, purely because you joined Fab, with zero effort put in. Or..... Finding people where there's a mutual attraction, shared interests and desires, where you take time to build a connection and trust, long before you even think of being in the same room, let alone getting naked. First one or second one? Winston" Neither. | |||
"Looks like it is "With that attitude you’ll get nowhere. I’ve had two single guy profiles on here and two couples profiles, both of them with someone met on here. As a single guy I had great fun. I’m 52 now, first joined when I was 44 and I’m bald, carrying a bit of podge and nowhere near 9”… This site is what YOU make it. Stop waiting for fab to be delivered on a plate to you. | |||
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"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results I’m not looking for a 25 year old (way too young), Greek god (wait, do they come with beards?!?) 9+inch, (way too big), and a lottery winner is just another way of saying rich I guess, and that’s certainly not on my list of reasons to meet people, so no, I disagree." good.tjing I'm old otherwise you'd never meet me... Confused by the OP. You admit to not having a great profile, so how do you know a profile won't help here? Having been on and off, fab feels like it is busier. That probably makes it harder for those making the least effort .. | |||
"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results " You’ve had far more success in the clubs than I ever did OP, so I would suggest sticking with what has worked for you before. Just use Fab to chat shit in the forums now and then   | |||
"When I look at fab, and how members are put down by others for their opinions, on a swinging site, I see why some may think its a waste of time. I guess it depends on what you think swinging is. Getting your dick wet, purely because you joined Fab, with zero effort put in. Or..... Finding people where there's a mutual attraction, shared interests and desires, where you take time to build a connection and trust, long before you even think of being in the same room, let alone getting naked. First one or second one? Winston Neither." In which case, what's your perception/understanding of swinging? Winston | |||
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"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results " The thing is if you do put in the effort, you’ve got a better chance at meeting people. | |||
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"When I look at fab, and how members are put down by others for their opinions, on a swinging site, I see why some may think its a waste of time. I guess it depends on what you think swinging is. Getting your dick wet, purely because you joined Fab, with zero effort put in. Or..... Finding people where there's a mutual attraction, shared interests and desires, where you take time to build a connection and trust, long before you even think of being in the same room, let alone getting naked. First one or second one? Winston Neither. In which case, what's your perception/understanding of swinging? Winston" freedom to choose | |||
"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results Make it work to go to your local club or social it is very difficult even for couples to get a private meet with genuine people. I have been on here for a few years and I'm not the most glamorous person. But I still have fun and have met some very nice people on here. I do get quite a few nasty messages but I just delete and move on. Life's what you make it. "that's so true. I say if people are looking for a super model....jog on. Genuine people go on personalty not just looks | |||
"Hey Liverpool Girl 1234... Have you tried Greece? x" I have, many times. Going back in two weeks 
I’m always lucky there but just wondering about the gods constantly referred to on here, never found one myself but I’d love to | |||
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"When I look at fab, and how members are put down by others for their opinions, on a swinging site, I see why some may think its a waste of time. I guess it depends on what you think swinging is. Getting your dick wet, purely because you joined Fab, with zero effort put in. Or..... Finding people where there's a mutual attraction, shared interests and desires, where you take time to build a connection and trust, long before you even think of being in the same room, let alone getting naked. First one or second one? Winston Neither. In which case, what's your perception/understanding of swinging? Winston freedom to choose " You said neither, then gave an understanding that could answer the first and second, freedom to choose is an option in both. If you think swinging is nothing more than freedom to choose I'd suggest digging a little deeper. Good luck. Winston | |||
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"Bear in mind a lot of members will still be at work at 4.15 on a Friday afternoon. " Unless they are an MP, in which case they will be looking at porn anyway | |||
"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results I'm two years older than you. I'm not 25. I don't the body of a Greek God. I don't have a 9 inch cock. I do have 100+ meet verifications. I did work my arse off to get them though and used every opportunity the site provides for me. Winston" Yup! Echo Winston. The site offers opportunity for swinger lifestyle kinks. I'd say do more than be just a gent with an online profile. Good luck! | |||
"If there’s a 43 year old greek god, 6ft, 9 inches, not bothered about lottery win (got my own cash, ta) then please send him this way "how fungible are the inches? Can I move them between height and length? | |||
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"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results " I’m none of the above and I’ve met some lovely folk. | |||
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"When I look at fab, and how members are put down by others for their opinions, on a swinging site, I see why some may think its a waste of time. I guess it depends on what you think swinging is. Getting your dick wet, purely because you joined Fab, with zero effort put in. Or..... Finding people where there's a mutual attraction, shared interests and desires, where you take time to build a connection and trust, long before you even think of being in the same room, let alone getting naked. First one or second one? Winston Neither. In which case, what's your perception/understanding of swinging? Winston freedom to choose You said neither, then gave an understanding that could answer the first and second, freedom to choose is an option in both. If you think swinging is nothing more than freedom to choose I'd suggest digging a little deeper. Good luck. Winston " condescending comes to mind, when I read your replies, just take on board if you can, that I have choices if you don't agree good for you, but attempting to put people down is just plain stupid. now have your reply and I will not reply back asI see from your many replies that you like to have the last word. be lucky | |||
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"When I look at fab, and how members are put down by others for their opinions, on a swinging site, I see why some may think its a waste of time. I guess it depends on what you think swinging is. Getting your dick wet, purely because you joined Fab, with zero effort put in. Or..... Finding people where there's a mutual attraction, shared interests and desires, where you take time to build a connection and trust, long before you even think of being in the same room, let alone getting naked. First one or second one? Winston Neither. In which case, what's your perception/understanding of swinging? Winston freedom to choose You said neither, then gave an understanding that could answer the first and second, freedom to choose is an option in both. If you think swinging is nothing more than freedom to choose I'd suggest digging a little deeper. Good luck. Winston condescending comes to mind, when I read your replies, just take on board if you can, that I have choices if you don't agree good for you, but attempting to put people down is just plain stupid. now have your reply and I will not reply back asI see from your many replies that you like to have the last word. be lucky" I'm sure many people will continue this thread long after me. Many people here have offered genuine advice, born out of many years swinging experience. That you've not read or understood is not the responsibility of the writer, here or in other threads you've contributed to. I'd suggest from your comments here and on other threads, you have too many chips on your plate. Have a cracking time fathoming out the swinging world. Didn't happen to me overnight, took me a while. But I've loved every minute. I hope you have the same great experiences the vast majority of us here have.
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"Fab is far from a waste of time. I go through plenty of quiet periods but when you put the effort in to do a thoughtful message it can and does get responses. And I speak as a 50 yr old with a profile full of cock pics! " The fact that you're bi will help a lot in terms of getting meets from guys. For single straight guys, it kind of is a waste of time | |||
"Fab is far from a waste of time. I go through plenty of quiet periods but when you put the effort in to do a thoughtful message it can and does get responses. And I speak as a 50 yr old with a profile full of cock pics! The fact that you're bi will help a lot in terms of getting meets from guys. For single straight guys, it kind of is a waste of time" Based on your posts and responses, I think you're either writing a paper, a troll, or just very bored. Good luck OP, have a great weekend. | |||
"Fab is far from a waste of time. I go through plenty of quiet periods but when you put the effort in to do a thoughtful message it can and does get responses. And I speak as a 50 yr old with a profile full of cock pics! The fact that you're bi will help a lot in terms of getting meets from guys. For single straight guys, it kind of is a waste of time" Why is it a waste of time if you don’t mind me asking? | |||
"Fab is far from a waste of time. I go through plenty of quiet periods but when you put the effort in to do a thoughtful message it can and does get responses. And I speak as a 50 yr old with a profile full of cock pics! The fact that you're bi will help a lot in terms of getting meets from guys. For single straight guys, it kind of is a waste of time Why is it a waste of time if you don’t mind me asking? " Certainly not a waste of time if you look like you and have a penis that size :D. For most of us, it's tough even getting chat. No one responds to messages, no matter how much effort I've put into messages, and time is precious after all. If you're putting effort into something and not getting anything from it, even in terms of chat and socials, then it's a waste of time | |||
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"Yes it is " Honesty is refreshing . The top 10% of guys will have no problem getting meets and socials with women and couples | |||
"Yes it is Honesty is refreshing . The top 10% of guys will have no problem getting meets and socials with women and couples"Find out what the top 10% are doing and do it.
Fab is tough for single guys, no doubt about it. The top 10% of guys work hard at it.
Winston | |||
"Yes it is Honesty is refreshing . The top 10% of guys will have no problem getting meets and socials with women and couples
Find out what the top 10% are doing and do it.
Fab is tough for single guys, no doubt about it. The top 10% of guys work hard at it.
Winston"The top 10% of guys on here have good genetics(body, penis and face). The rest of us can't do much to change what we've got | |||
"Yes it is Honesty is refreshing . The top 10% of guys will have no problem getting meets and socials with women and couples
Find out what the top 10% are doing and do it.
Fab is tough for single guys, no doubt about it. The top 10% of guys work hard at it.
Winston
The top 10% of guys on here have good genetics(body, penis and face). The rest of us can't do much to change what we've got"You're a good looking guy. That box ticked. You're in good shape. That box ticked. No idea what your old boy looks like (and no desire to), but a penis isn't the first thing we, and most people looking to meet men are interested in. While it's tough to get a 1 2 1 social, there are plenty of group socials where you'd be welcomed. They're a great way to network, for people to see the warm human behind the cold impersonal written word on a website. And one group social can lead to invites and a welcome at others. Winston | |||
"Yes it is Honesty is refreshing . The top 10% of guys will have no problem getting meets and socials with women and couples
Find out what the top 10% are doing and do it.
Fab is tough for single guys, no doubt about it. The top 10% of guys work hard at it.
Winston
The top 10% of guys on here have good genetics(body, penis and face). The rest of us can't do much to change what we've got"You must have been doing something right going by your veris? You have had meets? | |||
"Yes it is Honesty is refreshing . The top 10% of guys will have no problem getting meets and socials with women and couples
Find out what the top 10% are doing and do it.
Fab is tough for single guys, no doubt about it. The top 10% of guys work hard at it.
Winston
The top 10% of guys on here have good genetics(body, penis and face). The rest of us can't do much to change what we've got
You must have been doing something right going by your veris? You have had meets?"I didn't even look at the veris... I'd say they put him in the top 10% 
Winston | |||
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"Yes it is Honesty is refreshing . The top 10% of guys will have no problem getting meets and socials with women and couples
Find out what the top 10% are doing and do it.
Fab is tough for single guys, no doubt about it. The top 10% of guys work hard at it.
Winston
The top 10% of guys on here have good genetics(body, penis and face). The rest of us can't do much to change what we've got
You must have been doing something right going by your veris? You have had meets?
I didn't even look at the veris...
I'd say they put him in the top 10%
Winston"I had some beginners luck on here, but now I just can't get anywhere. Even just to chat or have a social, interact with people. The top 10% are the ones who are well endowed and ripped. They will have any number of couples after them. Unless you're in that bracket, you won't get anywhere | |||
"Certainly not a waste of time if you look like you and have a penis that size " Just look at the amount of effort that's gone into his photos. They way someone looks and the size of their cock isn't anything they can do anything about. But the effort they put in....that is. (Bry) | |||
"Certainly not a waste of time if you look like you and have a penis that size Just look at the amount of effort that's gone into his photos. They way someone looks and the size of their cock isn't anything they can do anything about. But the effort they put in....that is. (Bry)" Thank you very much, I really appreciate that! | |||
"The top 10% are the ones who are well endowed and ripped. They will have any number of couples after them. Unless you're in that bracket, you won't get anywhere" Had a message this evening from a guy who's now w/e and not ripped. But he was polite, could write a decent message and we've got a date booked in for the week after next. How strange. (Bry) | |||
"Yes it is Honesty is refreshing . The top 10% of guys will have no problem getting meets and socials with women and couples
Find out what the top 10% are doing and do it.
Fab is tough for single guys, no doubt about it. The top 10% of guys work hard at it.
Winston
The top 10% of guys on here have good genetics(body, penis and face). The rest of us can't do much to change what we've got"Penis, difficult, other than loose some weight. Face, noy easy, other than take care of it, shave, get a decent hair cut. Body, that can be achieved to "fab top 10pc" through dedication and hard work. | |||
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"Yes it is Honesty is refreshing . The top 10% of guys will have no problem getting meets and socials with women and couples
Find out what the top 10% are doing and do it.
Fab is tough for single guys, no doubt about it. The top 10% of guys work hard at it.
Winston
The top 10% of guys on here have good genetics(body, penis and face). The rest of us can't do much to change what we've got
You must have been doing something right going by your veris? You have had meets?
I didn't even look at the veris...
I'd say they put him in the top 10%
Winston
I had some beginners luck on here, but now I just can't get anywhere. Even just to chat or have a social, interact with people.
The top 10% are the ones who are well endowed and ripped. They will have any number of couples after them.
Unless you're in that bracket, you won't get anywhere"You must have changed your approach if that was beginners luck then? People honestly mainly meet through having a good connection and chemistry with someone… seriously. Look at peoples verifications they’re not all what you say they have to look like to get a meet with someone… | |||
"The top 10% are the ones who are well endowed and ripped. They will have any number of couples after them. Unless you're in that bracket, you won't get anywhere Had a message this evening from a guy who's now w/e and not ripped. But he was polite, could write a decent message and we've got a date booked in for the week after next. How strange. (Bry)" Well thanks for being one of the couples who look beyond that kind of stuff . Wish there were more like you near where I live | |||
"Yes it is Honesty is refreshing . The top 10% of guys will have no problem getting meets and socials with women and couples
Find out what the top 10% are doing and do it.
Fab is tough for single guys, no doubt about it. The top 10% of guys work hard at it.
Winston
The top 10% of guys on here have good genetics(body, penis and face). The rest of us can't do much to change what we've got
You must have been doing something right going by your veris? You have had meets?
I didn't even look at the veris...
I'd say they put him in the top 10%
Winston
I had some beginners luck on here, but now I just can't get anywhere. Even just to chat or have a social, interact with people.
The top 10% are the ones who are well endowed and ripped. They will have any number of couples after them.
Unless you're in that bracket, you won't get anywhere
You must have changed your approach if that was beginners luck then?
People honestly mainly meet through having a good connection and chemistry with someone… seriously.
Look at peoples verifications they’re not all what you say they have to look like to get a meet with someone…"No, I don't do anything differently. I always send a face pic only, along with a polite message and asking if they'd be interested in chatting as we seem to share some similar interests. Worked a little at first, as you can see, but now everything just gets deleted straight away. Occasionally get a view, but that's it | |||
"Yes it is Honesty is refreshing . The top 10% of guys will have no problem getting meets and socials with women and couples
Find out what the top 10% are doing and do it.
Fab is tough for single guys, no doubt about it. The top 10% of guys work hard at it.
Winston
The top 10% of guys on here have good genetics(body, penis and face). The rest of us can't do much to change what we've got
You must have been doing something right going by your veris? You have had meets?
I didn't even look at the veris...
I'd say they put him in the top 10%
Winston
I had some beginners luck on here, but now I just can't get anywhere. Even just to chat or have a social, interact with people.
The top 10% are the ones who are well endowed and ripped. They will have any number of couples after them.
Unless you're in that bracket, you won't get anywhere
You must have changed your approach if that was beginners luck then?
People honestly mainly meet through having a good connection and chemistry with someone… seriously.
Look at peoples verifications they’re not all what you say they have to look like to get a meet with someone…
No, I don't do anything differently. I always send a face pic only, along with a polite message and asking if they'd be interested in chatting as we seem to share some similar interests.
Worked a little at first, as you can see, but now everything just gets deleted straight away. Occasionally get a view, but that's it"Plus i will mention their profile, as I always read them | |||
"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results " Everything's a waste of time if you not enjoying it . So I guess your post is a sign that your not enjoying your fab experience . Why is that OP are you here for just just sex OP is that all you really want the sex without the frill of the chance and the disappointment of the failed chase . If that's the case you can easily rectify that elsewhere with no chase no foreplay needed on your part and the only thing it will hurt is your wallet . Maybe just maybe your taking your search for sex to seriously and personally and allowing the search to become a much bigger deal than it really should be . Relax don't expect anything more than some nice eye candy and a nice interesting read from time to time while your on here . Send out a few messages to people but don't expect a response just chill enjoy fab as a distraction from your day ti day life a bit of a escape from the norm and I feel you may enjoy your time here which will come across in your messages and interactions with people making you more attractive to people because of the relaxed vibe you will be giving off . Hope my thoughts give you something to think on OP and good luck in your search chin up fella I hope you find some enjoyment and don't feel like your wasting your time on here for to much longer . | |||
"Yes it is Honesty is refreshing . The top 10% of guys will have no problem getting meets and socials with women and couples
Find out what the top 10% are doing and do it.
Fab is tough for single guys, no doubt about it. The top 10% of guys work hard at it.
Winston
The top 10% of guys on here have good genetics(body, penis and face). The rest of us can't do much to change what we've got
You must have been doing something right going by your veris? You have had meets?
I didn't even look at the veris...
I'd say they put him in the top 10%
Winston
I had some beginners luck on here, but now I just can't get anywhere. Even just to chat or have a social, interact with people.
The top 10% are the ones who are well endowed and ripped. They will have any number of couples after them.
Unless you're in that bracket, you won't get anywhere"I know plenty of people who certainly aren't ripped and way over 50 who get offered more meets and parties on here than they know what to do with. They rely on their charm and understanding of how swinging works to get them where they are. | |||
"When I look at fab, and how members are put down by others for their opinions, on a swinging site, I see why some may think its a waste of time. I guess it depends on what you think swinging is. Getting your dick wet, purely because you joined Fab, with zero effort put in. Or..... Finding people where there's a mutual attraction, shared interests and desires, where you take time to build a connection and trust, long before you even think of being in the same room, let alone getting naked. First one or second one? Winston" Second without a doubt! | |||
"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results One of the first guys I ever met from here was as you described OP and wanted to meet me for a social but I wasn't keen, as something didn't feel right when we were speaking. I agreed to meet socially on my way home from work, as we passed through the same area. I figured it was not such a big deal, as was going to be there anyway. I knew within two minutes that I wasn't interested. The fact that he was stereotypically tall dark and handsome, the "Greek god" body you described with a large(r) manhood made zero difference to me. Those physical and financial things you mentioned OP aren't the be all and end all for everyone. Some of us don't even have them on our list of requirements. If I don't enjoy talking to you, I won't want to be in your company. So nothing more will happen. Irrespective of your looks or finances. I have no desire to be laying in bed with someone afterwards I can't talk to and if I can't talk to you, we won't make it to bed anyway. " Well said! | |||
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"Well thanks for being one of the couples who look beyond that kind of stuff . Wish there were more like you near where I live "If you were nearer and sent us a decent introduction message - it would be a yes from me! Just so you know
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"Yes it is Honesty is refreshing . The top 10% of guys will have no problem getting meets and socials with women and couples
Find out what the top 10% are doing and do it.
Fab is tough for single guys, no doubt about it. The top 10% of guys work hard at it.
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The top 10% of guys on here have good genetics(body, penis and face). The rest of us can't do much to change what we've got"You seem to obsess over men with bigger cocks and what you consider better looks. Have you thought that this might be the reason you’re not enjoying the site as much as you could? | |||
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"Fab seems to me like a cross section of normal life. I’ve found that I tend to get out what I put in. And attraction and chemistry is key. Looks and ‘type’ are irrelevant to me x" Totally agree with you. I never judge a book by it's cover. | |||
"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results " I’ve been like this and I’ve honestly found that the less entitled I am, the less needy I am, the better results I get. I now delete messages from my sent box so I don’t end up harassing people, I keep my messages short and personalised and polite and not ridiculously sexual, and my response rate is about ten times higher than it was before. I’m not tall and good-looking and most conversations still go nowhere, but that’s the nature of these websites when you’re a guy. Focus on what you CAN change about yourself- for me it involves going to the gym more, making myself look better and become more attractive, and learning more about self-compassion so that rejection doesn’t fuel my own self-image. | |||
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" Can't give profile advice as you've not asked for it " Yes you can If it's relevant to the whine on the thread. But is it worth it? | |||
"Having been on here a number of years i have seen it go from bad to worse now if you are a 25 year old greek god 9+manhood and a lottery winner you may do all right they say put in and you will get out ,nonsence you can have a great profile(not me)doesnt mean results Make it work to go to your local club or social it is very difficult even for couples to get a private meet with genuine people." This is so true. It’s why we arrange meets at clubs, parties and arranged socials. So many times they don’t turn up, but we can still enjoy our evening. | |||
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"Fab is my favourite waste of time..." very true! Absolutely shit and almost useless for the sake you are here, still enjoyable and fun. But first and foremost addictive... | |||
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"Fab is far from a waste of time. I go through plenty of quiet periods but when you put the effort in to do a thoughtful message it can and does get responses. And I speak as a 50 yr old with a profile full of cock pics! The fact that you're bi will help a lot in terms of getting meets from guys. For single straight guys, it kind of is a waste of time" I don't know how you can say this, when you have good meet verifications? I'm over 50, far from a Greek god with a 9" penis, and my diary is so full I need to plan ahead lol | |||
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"Saying that fab is a waste of time for single men, doesn't make someone negative in general, not even negative about swinging. I really hate when people have a pessimistic attitude, but I won't sugarcoat my experience that says if you are a single man and if you come here for the hope of finding sex partners (seriously, for what else would you come?), then more than likely you are not at the best place. And when I say it, that actually can help other men to save their self-esteem! If they don't have too much experience in clubs/normal dating apps/real life, probably they would think that the price tag what their performance on this page puts on their head is their real "sex-market" value. No, don't worry, it's not. Here you play on a very unlevel field which has nothing to do with real life. If you can accept and handle it, then it still can be some sort of fun, but seriously, you will have way more success in clubs or in real life. For those who mention verifications, 2 out of my 3 veris are from club meets. I had two other which are not visible coz the girls are not on the page anymore, but I also met them in clubs. And I had probably hundreds of play sessions with couples and girls in clubs in the past 8 years, but usually, we don't even talk about this page. On the other hand, I invested some ridiculous amount of time in this page (it can be frankly addictive) and met 2 couples and one girl from here, but received a number of rejections that would destroy my self-esteem for life if I didn't know how I do with girls in real life. Trust me, even Tinder or Happn are way better for a single man. I also had a couple's profile for a while with an FWB recently, that is another game, that makes sense! "Life is all about how the cookie crumbles my friend! You’ve done well in the clubs, whereas I felt like the invisible man I do well using Fab to find likeminded friends, whereas you have had little success. There’s only so much we can do to influence our chances, some things just have a way of sorting themselves out | |||
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" Life is all about how the cookie crumbles my friend! You’ve done well in the clubs, whereas I felt like the invisible man I do well using Fab to find likeminded friends, whereas you have had little success. There’s only so much we can do to influence our chances, some things just have a way of sorting themselves out "That's actually a good thing that each can find the place they prefer and succeed, and sure we can't be a winner everywhere!
Though it's still hard to imagine for me, how can you find this page better than clubs? Getting to the meeting from the first message, then getting to the bed from the first face to face "hello" requires the same as being successful in clubs: good communication skills, good manners and definitely something about your physical appearance. Without these you could not be successful in the meetings you arranged on this page, I guess.
But, having these skills, you can use them in a club where the m/f ratio is much less terrible than here. (If you visit the right place) You do the same with way less competition.
Anyway, it's good to hear that some men are doing well here too! | |||
" Life is all about how the cookie crumbles my friend! You’ve done well in the clubs, whereas I felt like the invisible man I do well using Fab to find likeminded friends, whereas you have had little success. There’s only so much we can do to influence our chances, some things just have a way of sorting themselves out
That's actually a good thing that each can find the place they prefer and succeed, and sure we can't be a winner everywhere!
Though it's still hard to imagine for me, how can you find this page better than clubs? Getting to the meeting from the first message, then getting to the bed from the first face to face "hello" requires the same as being successful in clubs: good communication skills, good manners and definitely something about your physical appearance. Without these you could not be successful in the meetings you arranged on this page, I guess.
But, having these skills, you can use them in a club where the m/f ratio is much less terrible than here. (If you visit the right place) You do the same with way less competition.
Anyway, it's good to hear that some men are doing well here too! "How can you say the m/f ratio is better in clubs than in here? There’s hardly ever any women in clubs? Least not when I went? Those that were in, were part of couples, and either hung out in their ‘established groups of friends’ (cliques), or plain weren’t interested in single guys. It’s basically a two hour drive in any direction, for me to get to a club. When you get there, you have the opportunity (in theory), to chat with whoever is in while you are there. You can be lucky, there may be some nice, friendly people in, who don’t look down their noses at you like you’re something they stood in (and I include so-called hosts in that), and you may enjoy your night. The advantage of Fab is, you can message someone you think you may match with, at any time, from the comfort of your home, or anywhere you take your phone with you, and they can respond at any time. It’s much more convenient, and you can carry on more than one conversation at a time. There’s none of that 2/3 hour window because you happen to be in the same place at the same time. I don’t know why I haven’t had better luck in the clubs. I know there’s nothing ‘wrong’ with my social skills, and as you can see from my verifications, people who do meet me seem to like me. The fact is; I seem to be more attractive on a screen than I do in person. Or did I choose the wrong nights, at the wrong clubs? The last club I went to was Club Play in Blackpool, and that experience was typical; once I’d paid my money, I was instantly forgotten. Probably the loneliest experience of my life, and certainly no advert for visiting another club as a single guy. | |||
" How can you say the m/f ratio is better in clubs than in here? There’s hardly ever any women in clubs? Least not when I went? Those that were in, were part of couples, and either hung out in their ‘established groups of friends’ (cliques), or plain weren’t interested in single guys. It’s basically a two hour drive in any direction, for me to get to a club. When you get there, you have the opportunity (in theory), to chat with whoever is in while you are there. You can be lucky, there may be some nice, friendly people in, who don’t look down their noses at you like you’re something they stood in (and I include so-called hosts in that), and you may enjoy your night. The advantage of Fab is, you can message someone you think you may match with, at any time, from the comfort of your home, or anywhere you take your phone with you, and they can respond at any time. It’s much more convenient, and you can carry on more than one conversation at a time. There’s none of that 2/3 hour window because you happen to be in the same place at the same time. I don’t know why I haven’t had better luck in the clubs. I know there’s nothing ‘wrong’ with my social skills, and as you can see from my verifications, people who do meet me seem to like me. The fact is; I seem to be more attractive on a screen than I do in person. Or did I choose the wrong nights, at the wrong clubs? The last club I went to was Club Play in Blackpool, and that experience was typical; once I’d paid my money, I was instantly forgotten. Probably the loneliest experience of my life, and certainly no advert for visiting another club as a single guy." Probably I'm lucky to live in London, there are certainly more choices here. My favourites are OP4F and LeBoudoir, but I only go to nights, when the number of single guys is limited. For example, OP4F has a great Saturday night party, they let in only 5 single men, and usually, you will see around 15-30 couples and 2-3 single girls. But I recently tried Penthouse Playrooms, and their Saturday night party was also good, the m/f ratio wasn't beyond 2:1 (including the male part of couples), which is okay. My experience says that those couples who attend a party where a limited number of single men are allowed to, usually don't rule out us guys. And there is definitely a better chance of starting a chat, as they don't receive hundreds of convo starters like here on fab. Also, you are face to face, so you can instantly feel if there is good chemistry or not, which can be tricky if you talk online, and sometimes you/they will be disappointed when see each other IRL. I'd recommend you to pay a visit to London and try one of these clubs if you have a chance for it but go for an event with a limited number of single men. I can promise, you will have a good time! | |||
" How can you say the m/f ratio is better in clubs than in here? There’s hardly ever any women in clubs? Least not when I went? Those that were in, were part of couples, and either hung out in their ‘established groups of friends’ (cliques), or plain weren’t interested in single guys. It’s basically a two hour drive in any direction, for me to get to a club. When you get there, you have the opportunity (in theory), to chat with whoever is in while you are there. You can be lucky, there may be some nice, friendly people in, who don’t look down their noses at you like you’re something they stood in (and I include so-called hosts in that), and you may enjoy your night. The advantage of Fab is, you can message someone you think you may match with, at any time, from the comfort of your home, or anywhere you take your phone with you, and they can respond at any time. It’s much more convenient, and you can carry on more than one conversation at a time. There’s none of that 2/3 hour window because you happen to be in the same place at the same time. I don’t know why I haven’t had better luck in the clubs. I know there’s nothing ‘wrong’ with my social skills, and as you can see from my verifications, people who do meet me seem to like me. The fact is; I seem to be more attractive on a screen than I do in person. Or did I choose the wrong nights, at the wrong clubs? The last club I went to was Club Play in Blackpool, and that experience was typical; once I’d paid my money, I was instantly forgotten. Probably the loneliest experience of my life, and certainly no advert for visiting another club as a single guy. Probably I'm lucky to live in London, there are certainly more choices here. My favourites are OP4F and LeBoudoir, but I only go to nights, when the number of single guys is limited. For example, OP4F has a great Saturday night party, they let in only 5 single men, and usually, you will see around 15-30 couples and 2-3 single girls. But I recently tried Penthouse Playrooms, and their Saturday night party was also good, the m/f ratio wasn't beyond 2:1 (including the male part of couples), which is okay. My experience says that those couples who attend a party where a limited number of single men are allowed to, usually don't rule out us guys. And there is definitely a better chance of starting a chat, as they don't receive hundreds of convo starters like here on fab. Also, you are face to face, so you can instantly feel if there is good chemistry or not, which can be tricky if you talk online, and sometimes you/they will be disappointed when see each other IRL. I'd recommend you to pay a visit to London and try one of these clubs if you have a chance for it but go for an event with a limited number of single men. I can promise, you will have a good time! ""Fantastic! A single male!" said no club ever lol.....
If I do get the chance to visit a club in the South, I will give it a go. There's literally nothing to lose, and it will fill an evening, if nothing else.
While I appreciate your advice about looking for events where couples are interested in meeting single guys, I am really looking to meet single women? I have been fortunate to be invited to play with couples before, but I'm much more of a 121 guy. I need to look for events which are likely to be attended by single women, looking for single, straight, white guys, which appears to be a big ask, in many ways lol | |||
