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"Does my profile come across as a little bit too bitchy? " Not to me... | |||
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"Does my profile come across as a little bit too bitchy? " Yes a bit bitchy Could try to come off a bit softer and more chilled | |||
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"It is a bit incoherent but that may just be our simpleton minds. Your photos are nice and guess the direct tone will help filter messages. If this was a male's profile, it will get a different reaction altogether." Must admit I don't know what TERF is. | |||
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"Not at all, it’s clear and concise. Great pics as well " Ty From what I see the only negative reactions are from people with whom I wouldn't want to have anything under any circumstance anyway | |||
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"Does my profile come across as a little bit too bitchy? Yes a bit bitchy Could try to come off a bit softer and more chilled" Could I ask what parts? | |||
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"It is a bit incoherent but that may just be our simpleton minds. Your photos are nice and guess the direct tone will help filter messages. If this was a male's profile, it will get a different reaction altogether." Yeah, I think it really does help avoid problems further down the line. Could I ask what parts are incoherent? I guess I use very succinct sentences and they all make different points yet are one after the other, I guess that reads like it's a bit much? | |||
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"It is a bit incoherent but that may just be our simpleton minds. Your photos are nice and guess the direct tone will help filter messages. If this was a male's profile, it will get a different reaction altogether. Must admit I don't know what TERF is." It stands for Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist, it's quite a reactionary and right wing branch of feminism that does not see trans women as women and wants us excluded from womenhood socially (e.g. no using women's toilet), so basically they want to make my life hell. | |||
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"It is a bit incoherent but that may just be our simpleton minds. Your photos are nice and guess the direct tone will help filter messages. If this was a male's profile, it will get a different reaction altogether. Must admit I don't know what TERF is. It stands for Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist, it's quite a reactionary and right wing branch of feminism that does not see trans women as women and wants us excluded from womenhood socially (e.g. no using women's toilet), so basically they want to make my life hell." Every day's a learning day | |||
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"It is a bit incoherent but that may just be our simpleton minds. Your photos are nice and guess the direct tone will help filter messages. If this was a male's profile, it will get a different reaction altogether. Must admit I don't know what TERF is. It stands for Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist, it's quite a reactionary and right wing branch of feminism that does not see trans women as women and wants us excluded from womenhood socially (e.g. no using women's toilet), so basically they want to make my life hell." Do they really have a voice? I’m amazed if so. I like your profile, shoot from the hip | |||
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"Do they really have a voice? I’m amazed if so." They do, unfortunately, it's quite prevalent among British newspaper columnists, so they reach a wide audience. Unfortunately too we don't have a lot of trans people in the media or in politics. | |||
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"Thank you all! xxx Do they really have a voice? I’m amazed if so. They do, unfortunately, it's quite prevalent among British newspaper columnists, so they reach a wide audience. Unfortunately too we don't have a lot of trans people in the media or in politics." Ahh I never read them. I’m sorry you face such discrimination x | |||
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"Thank you all! xxx Do they really have a voice? I’m amazed if so. They do, unfortunately, it's quite prevalent among British newspaper columnists, so they reach a wide audience. Unfortunately too we don't have a lot of trans people in the media or in politics. Ahh I never read them. I’m sorry you face such discrimination x" It's ok actually, I surround my self with the people that love and love me, so I don't experience much of it other than reading awful columns in national newspapers every now and then. Thanks though x | |||
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"Does my profile come across as a little bit too bitchy? " I think there's a lot of Tories on here hun..... Personally I love your bio! You be who you wanna be x | |||
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"Does my profile come across as a little bit too bitchy? " Nope I think you look and sound great! x | |||
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"Does my profile come across as a little bit too bitchy? Yes a bit bitchy Could try to come off a bit softer and more chilled Could I ask what parts?" Sure thing. Your profile is to the point and that is good though your pictures gives of that you are fun filled girl that likes to have fun and dress up but your profiles text comes off as cold. That contrast came off as unbalanced. The bitchy part came from the political side. No Tories and terfs. What does my politics have to do with me wanting to fuck you. Can be a Tory and still have an attraction to the and women. Can be a terf and still admire the beauty of the person in front of me. I'm gonna pressume you're on the left comes off a typical leftist intolerance though I will state my bias against the modern left. | |||
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"Does my profile come across as a little bit too bitchy? Yes a bit bitchy Could try to come off a bit softer and more chilled Could I ask what parts? Sure thing. Your profile is to the point and that is good though your pictures gives of that you are fun filled girl that likes to have fun and dress up but your profiles text comes off as cold. That contrast came off as unbalanced. The bitchy part came from the political side. No Tories and terfs. What does my politics have to do with me wanting to fuck you. Can be a Tory and still have an attraction to the and women. Can be a terf and still admire the beauty of the person in front of me. I'm gonna pressume you're on the left comes off a typical leftist intolerance though I will state my bias against the modern left. " Oh dear and you in Salford ....lol | |||
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"Does my profile come across as a little bit too bitchy? " I'll be honest, I don't know what you mean by 'TERF' I've never heard that, But no, it's fine and straight forward | |||
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"It is a bit incoherent but that may just be our simpleton minds. Your photos are nice and guess the direct tone will help filter messages. If this was a male's profile, it will get a different reaction altogether. Must admit I don't know what TERF is. It stands for Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist, it's quite a reactionary and right wing branch of feminism that does not see trans women as women and wants us excluded from womenhood socially (e.g. no using women's toilet), so basically they want to make my life hell." Thanks for clearing that up. I was going to ask myself what they are. | |||
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"Sure thing. Your profile is to the point and that is good though your pictures gives of that you are fun filled girl that likes to have fun and dress up but your profiles text comes off as cold. That contrast came off as unbalanced." I am lots of fun and I do like fashion, but yeah, I also know what I want. There's lots of guys on here, and I'm not interested in the 99%, so I might as well get them to filter out themselves :D "The bitchy part came from the political side. No Tories and terfs. What does my politics have to do with me wanting to fuck you. Can be a Tory and still have an attraction to the and women. Can be a terf and still admire the beauty of the person in front of me." Sure, you can be a tory or a terf and be into me, but I guarantee I won't be into you. Don't get me wrong, I like oain, but sleeping with someone who wants to make ny life and the lives of my friends hell is a bit much for me. | |||
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"Woman with a Dick could be taken as offensive/insensitive by some. Especially by other trans folk, even if you are not trying to attract them. Pre op most people would hopefully get. Plus some guys might think it’s ok to refer to transgender woman as Women with dicks… Anyhow it’s just my take on things, I could be wrong. x" Yeah this got me thinking quite a bit. I think it's ok for me to say that, because after all it's myselr that I'm referring to (I wouldn't use those words to describe anyone else) and also because it is technically true: I have a woman and I have a dick. It's not something I would use to describe myself in any other context, but on a site like this I think it makes sense. I initially adopted it because I was a little uncomfortable about having to disclose it, so I though why not shoot from the hip and get over it | |||
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"Woman with a Dick could be taken as offensive/insensitive by some. Especially by other trans folk, even if you are not trying to attract them. Pre op most people would hopefully get. Plus some guys might think it’s ok to refer to transgender woman as Women with dicks… Anyhow it’s just my take on things, I could be wrong. x Yeah this got me thinking quite a bit. I think it's ok for me to say that, because after all it's myselr that I'm referring to (I wouldn't use those words to describe anyone else) and also because it is technically true: I have a woman and I have a dick. It's not something I would use to describe myself in any other context, but on a site like this I think it makes sense. I initially adopted it because I was a little uncomfortable about having to disclose it, so I though why not shoot from the hip and get over it " Yeah I see that since you are referring to yourself you are just being completely up front in pure terms. So well done for being brave enough to do that. I'm sure folks would have just spammed you to ask that particular question, so better to avoid that. It' just some (non trans) people don't have any appreciation for subtle and also correct terminology. Hope you didn't mind me speaking up, it was more of I have seen others saying daft or out of date things in forums, trans related, which seemed other folks found somewhat insensitive. i.e I like ladyboys and similar things, you probably get what I am saying. X | |||
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"Thanks everyone for your answers Sure thing. Your profile is to the point and that is good though your pictures gives of that you are fun filled girl that likes to have fun and dress up but your profiles text comes off as cold. That contrast came off as unbalanced. I am lots of fun and I do like fashion, but yeah, I also know what I want. There's lots of guys on here, and I'm not interested in the 99%, so I might as well get them to filter out themselves :D The bitchy part came from the political side. No Tories and terfs. What does my politics have to do with me wanting to fuck you. Can be a Tory and still have an attraction to the and women. Can be a terf and still admire the beauty of the person in front of me. Sure, you can be a tory or a terf and be into me, but I guarantee I won't be into you. Don't get me wrong, I like oain, but sleeping with someone who wants to make ny life and the lives of my friends hell is a bit much for me." So this is what turned me off completely about your profile. Canceling out people because of values that might align with a political party and then collectively canceling out those people. I associate myself as a fiscal conservative which aligns pretty much with the Tory party. I accept you for who you are, with no discrimination. If you look at my friends list you will see many different sexual orientations. Not once has political party or association with terms oops terfs guess Google doesn't even know what that and I certainly don't know whatever that is. I find you to be biased and definitely in no way find that attractive. Hope you can find acceptance of all people and an understanding of who they might be. You asked, my opinion, no hard feelings. | |||
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"It’ll attract some people and turn others off. As long as you’re getting the ones you want, is all good. " This for me | |||
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"Can't read it, we must be too old haha" Nothing to do with that, it's just that I got you blocked | |||
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"Thanks everyone for your answers Sure thing. Your profile is to the point and that is good though your pictures gives of that you are fun filled girl that likes to have fun and dress up but your profiles text comes off as cold. That contrast came off as unbalanced. I am lots of fun and I do like fashion, but yeah, I also know what I want. There's lots of guys on here, and I'm not interested in the 99%, so I might as well get them to filter out themselves :D The bitchy part came from the political side. No Tories and terfs. What does my politics have to do with me wanting to fuck you. Can be a Tory and still have an attraction to the and women. Can be a terf and still admire the beauty of the person in front of me. Sure, you can be a tory or a terf and be into me, but I guarantee I won't be into you. Don't get me wrong, I like oain, but sleeping with someone who wants to make ny life and the lives of my friends hell is a bit much for me. So this is what turned me off completely about your profile. Canceling out people because of values that might align with a political party and then collectively canceling out those people. I associate myself as a fiscal conservative which aligns pretty much with the Tory party. I accept you for who you are, with no discrimination. If you look at my friends list you will see many different sexual orientations. Not once has political party or association with terms oops terfs guess Google doesn't even know what that and I certainly don't know whatever that is. I find you to be biased and definitely in no way find that attractive. Hope you can find acceptance of all people and an understanding of who they might be. You asked, my opinion, no hard feelings. " This. Preaching against intolerance while showing blatant intolerance. | |||
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"Reads find to me. Concise and precise. Thanks for telling us all what TERF stands for as well. Best wishes" I would suggest anyone interested in TERF (a slur by the way) and the issues around it do a bit of reading on it. As the OP has given a really one-sided biased viewpoint of it all. Which is up to her, that's her view. But there is the whole other side of the argument. Just pointing that out | |||
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"Thanks everyone for your answers Sure thing. Your profile is to the point and that is good though your pictures gives of that you are fun filled girl that likes to have fun and dress up but your profiles text comes off as cold. That contrast came off as unbalanced. I am lots of fun and I do like fashion, but yeah, I also know what I want. There's lots of guys on here, and I'm not interested in the 99%, so I might as well get them to filter out themselves :D The bitchy part came from the political side. No Tories and terfs. What does my politics have to do with me wanting to fuck you. Can be a Tory and still have an attraction to the and women. Can be a terf and still admire the beauty of the person in front of me. Sure, you can be a tory or a terf and be into me, but I guarantee I won't be into you. Don't get me wrong, I like oain, but sleeping with someone who wants to make ny life and the lives of my friends hell is a bit much for me. So this is what turned me off completely about your profile. Canceling out people because of values that might align with a political party and then collectively canceling out those people. I associate myself as a fiscal conservative which aligns pretty much with the Tory party. I accept you for who you are, with no discrimination. If you look at my friends list you will see many different sexual orientations. Not once has political party or association with terms oops terfs guess Google doesn't even know what that and I certainly don't know whatever that is. I find you to be biased and definitely in no way find that attractive. Hope you can find acceptance of all people and an understanding of who they might be. You asked, my opinion, no hard feelings. This. Preaching against intolerance while showing blatant intolerance. " Please google the paradox of tolerance | |||
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"Can't read it, we must be too old haha Nothing to do with that, it's just that I got you blocked" Your tolerance knows no boundaries lol | |||
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"Reads find to me. Concise and precise. Thanks for telling us all what TERF stands for as well. Best wishes I would suggest anyone interested in TERF (a slur by the way) and the issues around it do a bit of reading on it. As the OP has given a really one-sided biased viewpoint of it all. Which is up to her, that's her view. But there is the whole other side of the argument. Just pointing that out" No, there aren’t two sides to the ‘argument’. TERFS are just like any other hate group, they want tolerance for their abhorrent and outdated views, which are rejected by all civilised members of society. | |||
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"Reads find to me. Concise and precise. Thanks for telling us all what TERF stands for as well. Best wishes I would suggest anyone interested in TERF (a slur by the way) and the issues around it do a bit of reading on it. As the OP has given a really one-sided biased viewpoint of it all. Which is up to her, that's her view. But there is the whole other side of the argument. Just pointing that out No, there aren’t two sides to the ‘argument’. TERFS are just like any other hate group, they want tolerance for their abhorrent and outdated views, which are rejected by all civilised members of society." If there aren't two sides to an arguement then it can't be an arguement. Terf just seems to be a term for anyone who doesn't believe a made up fantasy world based on feelings and not facts. Just because you believe it, doesn't mean you're correct. It just means its what you believe. I don't think badly of anyone who thinks differently from me or who has a different outlook on life. Problem is, if someone doesn't agree with this new theory of life its not long before the hate rhetoric is thrown in our faces. Tolerence seems only to come from those with logic and facts. None of which those who believe in feelings over facts seem to have. Yet again we have another thread proving just that. | |||
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"Reads find to me. Concise and precise. Thanks for telling us all what TERF stands for as well. Best wishes I would suggest anyone interested in TERF (a slur by the way) and the issues around it do a bit of reading on it. As the OP has given a really one-sided biased viewpoint of it all. Which is up to her, that's her view. But there is the whole other side of the argument. Just pointing that out No, there aren’t two sides to the ‘argument’. TERFS are just like any other hate group, they want tolerance for their abhorrent and outdated views, which are rejected by all civilised members of society. If there aren't two sides to an arguement then it can't be an arguement. Terf just seems to be a term for anyone who doesn't believe a made up fantasy world based on feelings and not facts. Just because you believe it, doesn't mean you're correct. It just means its what you believe. I don't think badly of anyone who thinks differently from me or who has a different outlook on life. Problem is, if someone doesn't agree with this new theory of life its not long before the hate rhetoric is thrown in our faces. Tolerence seems only to come from those with logic and facts. None of which those who believe in feelings over facts seem to have. Yet again we have another thread proving just that. " Let me get this straight. As a woman who is trans I am say no to sleeping with people who want to exclude me from womanhood, and you think I am at fault? TERF is not a slur, it's an acronym that they themselves started using. They are pro the exclusion of trans women from feminism, and not just feminism but from womanhood in general. I don't see how an acronym that says exactly that is any kind of slur. They want me out of women's toilets and to not be considered as a woman socially. I don't want to fuck them but somehow I am the intolerant one. I think your issue here is that I have some self-respect. | |||
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"By that ‘argument’ (please note: no ‘e’), you expect someone to be tolerant of racism and homophobia just because racists and homophobes have ‘a different opinion’ to civilised people. No thanks! TERFS are just another hate group, and will be treated as such. " Thanks for correcting my spelling, if i did that to you it would probably be classed as hate speech lol. As I said above, hate speech is illegal. Has been for decades now. My problem is how you define hate. And its pretty much anything that doesn't agree with your delusions. Because your feelings are hurt , because we challenge your thinking, and you don't have a solid foundation to your ideology, all you can do is cry hate speech and claim victim status. And this is no doubt hate speech to you, so you don't have to reply saying so. We all know that disagreeing with you is hate speech in your world lol | |||
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"By that ‘argument’ (please note: no ‘e’), you expect someone to be tolerant of racism and homophobia just because racists and homophobes have ‘a different opinion’ to civilised people. No thanks! TERFS are just another hate group, and will be treated as such. Thanks for correcting my spelling, if i did that to you it would probably be classed as hate speech lol. As I said above, hate speech is illegal. Has been for decades now. My problem is how you define hate. And its pretty much anything that doesn't agree with your delusions. Because your feelings are hurt , because we challenge your thinking, and you don't have a solid foundation to your ideology, all you can do is cry hate speech and claim victim status. And this is no doubt hate speech to you, so you don't have to reply saying so. We all know that disagreeing with you is hate speech in your world lol " Why do you think you are challenging anyone’s thinking here? Everything you’ve written you could read any day of the week on the GB News Facebook page, it’s not remotely challenging or interesting, more a regurgitated opinion. Which is probably why you seem to have written it in response to a post you imagined - it doesn’t seem to relate much to what was said at all. Also, it’s interesting that none of it conforms to your previously espoused ‘respect all opinions’ mantra…in fact you seem very triggered indeed by someone not agreeing with you. How ironic! | |||
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"By that ‘argument’ (please note: no ‘e’), you expect someone to be tolerant of racism and homophobia just because racists and homophobes have ‘a different opinion’ to civilised people. No thanks! TERFS are just another hate group, and will be treated as such. Thanks for correcting my spelling, if i did that to you it would probably be classed as hate speech lol. As I said above, hate speech is illegal. Has been for decades now. My problem is how you define hate. And its pretty much anything that doesn't agree with your delusions. Because your feelings are hurt , because we challenge your thinking, and you don't have a solid foundation to your ideology, all you can do is cry hate speech and claim victim status. And this is no doubt hate speech to you, so you don't have to reply saying so. We all know that disagreeing with you is hate speech in your world lol Why do you think you are challenging anyone’s thinking here? Everything you’ve written you could read any day of the week on the GB News Facebook page, it’s not remotely challenging or interesting, more a regurgitated opinion. Which is probably why you seem to have written it in response to a post you imagined - it doesn’t seem to relate much to what was said at all. Also, it’s interesting that none of it conforms to your previously espoused ‘respect all opinions’ mantra…in fact you seem very triggered indeed by someone not agreeing with you. How ironic! " Your hate is surpassed only by your inability to see your own hate. | |||
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"By that ‘argument’ (please note: no ‘e’), you expect someone to be tolerant of racism and homophobia just because racists and homophobes have ‘a different opinion’ to civilised people. No thanks! TERFS are just another hate group, and will be treated as such. Thanks for correcting my spelling, if i did that to you it would probably be classed as hate speech lol. As I said above, hate speech is illegal. Has been for decades now. My problem is how you define hate. And its pretty much anything that doesn't agree with your delusions. Because your feelings are hurt , because we challenge your thinking, and you don't have a solid foundation to your ideology, all you can do is cry hate speech and claim victim status. And this is no doubt hate speech to you, so you don't have to reply saying so. We all know that disagreeing with you is hate speech in your world lol Why do you think you are challenging anyone’s thinking here? Everything you’ve written you could read any day of the week on the GB News Facebook page, it’s not remotely challenging or interesting, more a regurgitated opinion. Which is probably why you seem to have written it in response to a post you imagined - it doesn’t seem to relate much to what was said at all. Also, it’s interesting that none of it conforms to your previously espoused ‘respect all opinions’ mantra…in fact you seem very triggered indeed by someone not agreeing with you. How ironic! Your hate is surpassed only by your inability to see your own hate. " TERF try to make the lives of trans people impossible (literally) by not wanting us to even use appropriate toilets. They hate trans people. Trans people don't tolerate their views, as they are diametrically opposed to their existence. The former want to make the lives of a minority impossible, the latter want to prevent this from happening. Please don't insult us putting those two things in the same category. | |||
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"By that ‘argument’ (please note: no ‘e’), you expect someone to be tolerant of racism and homophobia just because racists and homophobes have ‘a different opinion’ to civilised people. No thanks! TERFS are just another hate group, and will be treated as such. Thanks for correcting my spelling, if i did that to you it would probably be classed as hate speech lol. As I said above, hate speech is illegal. Has been for decades now. My problem is how you define hate. And its pretty much anything that doesn't agree with your delusions. Because your feelings are hurt , because we challenge your thinking, and you don't have a solid foundation to your ideology, all you can do is cry hate speech and claim victim status. And this is no doubt hate speech to you, so you don't have to reply saying so. We all know that disagreeing with you is hate speech in your world lol Why do you think you are challenging anyone’s thinking here? Everything you’ve written you could read any day of the week on the GB News Facebook page, it’s not remotely challenging or interesting, more a regurgitated opinion. Which is probably why you seem to have written it in response to a post you imagined - it doesn’t seem to relate much to what was said at all. Also, it’s interesting that none of it conforms to your previously espoused ‘respect all opinions’ mantra…in fact you seem very triggered indeed by someone not agreeing with you. How ironic! Your hate is surpassed only by your inability to see your own hate. " You don’t seem very tolerant! | |||
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"By that ‘argument’ (please note: no ‘e’), you expect someone to be tolerant of racism and homophobia just because racists and homophobes have ‘a different opinion’ to civilised people. No thanks! TERFS are just another hate group, and will be treated as such. Thanks for correcting my spelling, if i did that to you it would probably be classed as hate speech lol. As I said above, hate speech is illegal. Has been for decades now. My problem is how you define hate. And its pretty much anything that doesn't agree with your delusions. Because your feelings are hurt , because we challenge your thinking, and you don't have a solid foundation to your ideology, all you can do is cry hate speech and claim victim status. And this is no doubt hate speech to you, so you don't have to reply saying so. We all know that disagreeing with you is hate speech in your world lol Why do you think you are challenging anyone’s thinking here? Everything you’ve written you could read any day of the week on the GB News Facebook page, it’s not remotely challenging or interesting, more a regurgitated opinion. Which is probably why you seem to have written it in response to a post you imagined - it doesn’t seem to relate much to what was said at all. Also, it’s interesting that none of it conforms to your previously espoused ‘respect all opinions’ mantra…in fact you seem very triggered indeed by someone not agreeing with you. How ironic! Your hate is surpassed only by your inability to see your own hate. You don’t seem very tolerant! " Respect is earned, so far I've not seen any from you. Being civil towards you was offered, your response indicated you no longer wanted it. All you're doing is confirming how insecure and intolerent you are. I'm quickly understanding why others tend to just shy away from these conversations. There's zero point to them. It just seems to be a platform to throw hate in the guise of being progressive. | |||
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"By that ‘argument’ (please note: no ‘e’), you expect someone to be tolerant of racism and homophobia just because racists and homophobes have ‘a different opinion’ to civilised people. No thanks! TERFS are just another hate group, and will be treated as such. Thanks for correcting my spelling, if i did that to you it would probably be classed as hate speech lol. As I said above, hate speech is illegal. Has been for decades now. My problem is how you define hate. And its pretty much anything that doesn't agree with your delusions. Because your feelings are hurt , because we challenge your thinking, and you don't have a solid foundation to your ideology, all you can do is cry hate speech and claim victim status. And this is no doubt hate speech to you, so you don't have to reply saying so. We all know that disagreeing with you is hate speech in your world lol Why do you think you are challenging anyone’s thinking here? Everything you’ve written you could read any day of the week on the GB News Facebook page, it’s not remotely challenging or interesting, more a regurgitated opinion. Which is probably why you seem to have written it in response to a post you imagined - it doesn’t seem to relate much to what was said at all. Also, it’s interesting that none of it conforms to your previously espoused ‘respect all opinions’ mantra…in fact you seem very triggered indeed by someone not agreeing with you. How ironic! Your hate is surpassed only by your inability to see your own hate. You don’t seem very tolerant! Respect is earned, so far I've not seen any from you. Being civil towards you was offered, your response indicated you no longer wanted it. All you're doing is confirming how insecure and intolerent you are. I'm quickly understanding why others tend to just shy away from these conversations. There's zero point to them. It just seems to be a platform to throw hate in the guise of being progressive." Gina, you can express hateful views in a perfectly civil way, it doesn't preclude you from being hateful. Nor gaslighting people. | |||
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"By that ‘argument’ (please note: no ‘e’), you expect someone to be tolerant of racism and homophobia just because racists and homophobes have ‘a different opinion’ to civilised people. No thanks! TERFS are just another hate group, and will be treated as such. Thanks for correcting my spelling, if i did that to you it would probably be classed as hate speech lol. As I said above, hate speech is illegal. Has been for decades now. My problem is how you define hate. And its pretty much anything that doesn't agree with your delusions. Because your feelings are hurt , because we challenge your thinking, and you don't have a solid foundation to your ideology, all you can do is cry hate speech and claim victim status. And this is no doubt hate speech to you, so you don't have to reply saying so. We all know that disagreeing with you is hate speech in your world lol Why do you think you are challenging anyone’s thinking here? Everything you’ve written you could read any day of the week on the GB News Facebook page, it’s not remotely challenging or interesting, more a regurgitated opinion. Which is probably why you seem to have written it in response to a post you imagined - it doesn’t seem to relate much to what was said at all. Also, it’s interesting that none of it conforms to your previously espoused ‘respect all opinions’ mantra…in fact you seem very triggered indeed by someone not agreeing with you. How ironic! Your hate is surpassed only by your inability to see your own hate. You don’t seem very tolerant! Respect is earned, so far I've not seen any from you. Being civil towards you was offered, your response indicated you no longer wanted it. All you're doing is confirming how insecure and intolerent you are. I'm quickly understanding why others tend to just shy away from these conversations. There's zero point to them. It just seems to be a platform to throw hate in the guise of being progressive." What you mean to say is ‘I am tolerant of other people’s opinions, until they don’t agree with me, which is when my true colours show’. | |||
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"By that ‘argument’ (please note: no ‘e’), you expect someone to be tolerant of racism and homophobia just because racists and homophobes have ‘a different opinion’ to civilised people. No thanks! TERFS are just another hate group, and will be treated as such. Thanks for correcting my spelling, if i did that to you it would probably be classed as hate speech lol. As I said above, hate speech is illegal. Has been for decades now. My problem is how you define hate. And its pretty much anything that doesn't agree with your delusions. Because your feelings are hurt , because we challenge your thinking, and you don't have a solid foundation to your ideology, all you can do is cry hate speech and claim victim status. And this is no doubt hate speech to you, so you don't have to reply saying so. We all know that disagreeing with you is hate speech in your world lol Why do you think you are challenging anyone’s thinking here? Everything you’ve written you could read any day of the week on the GB News Facebook page, it’s not remotely challenging or interesting, more a regurgitated opinion. Which is probably why you seem to have written it in response to a post you imagined - it doesn’t seem to relate much to what was said at all. Also, it’s interesting that none of it conforms to your previously espoused ‘respect all opinions’ mantra…in fact you seem very triggered indeed by someone not agreeing with you. How ironic! Your hate is surpassed only by your inability to see your own hate. You don’t seem very tolerant! Respect is earned, so far I've not seen any from you. Being civil towards you was offered, your response indicated you no longer wanted it. All you're doing is confirming how insecure and intolerent you are. I'm quickly understanding why others tend to just shy away from these conversations. There's zero point to them. It just seems to be a platform to throw hate in the guise of being progressive. Gina, you can express hateful views in a perfectly civil way, it doesn't preclude you from being hateful. Nor gaslighting people." Its G, not Gina. Ah, so you telling me your hateful views are ok, but I can't share mine? Fair enough, we all know where we stand in this conversation now. (Not that I didnt before) Funny how these conversations always come back to you lot being the victim and us lot being the haters!?!?! | |||
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"By that ‘argument’ (please note: no ‘e’), you expect someone to be tolerant of racism and homophobia just because racists and homophobes have ‘a different opinion’ to civilised people. No thanks! TERFS are just another hate group, and will be treated as such. Thanks for correcting my spelling, if i did that to you it would probably be classed as hate speech lol. As I said above, hate speech is illegal. Has been for decades now. My problem is how you define hate. And its pretty much anything that doesn't agree with your delusions. Because your feelings are hurt , because we challenge your thinking, and you don't have a solid foundation to your ideology, all you can do is cry hate speech and claim victim status. And this is no doubt hate speech to you, so you don't have to reply saying so. We all know that disagreeing with you is hate speech in your world lol Why do you think you are challenging anyone’s thinking here? Everything you’ve written you could read any day of the week on the GB News Facebook page, it’s not remotely challenging or interesting, more a regurgitated opinion. Which is probably why you seem to have written it in response to a post you imagined - it doesn’t seem to relate much to what was said at all. Also, it’s interesting that none of it conforms to your previously espoused ‘respect all opinions’ mantra…in fact you seem very triggered indeed by someone not agreeing with you. How ironic! Your hate is surpassed only by your inability to see your own hate. You don’t seem very tolerant! Respect is earned, so far I've not seen any from you. Being civil towards you was offered, your response indicated you no longer wanted it. All you're doing is confirming how insecure and intolerent you are. I'm quickly understanding why others tend to just shy away from these conversations. There's zero point to them. It just seems to be a platform to throw hate in the guise of being progressive. What you mean to say is ‘I am tolerant of other people’s opinions, until they don’t agree with me, which is when my true colours show’. " I'm tolerent of others till they are disrespective wee brats who claim victim all day long while spewing hate themselves. In that case yes. | |||
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"By that ‘argument’ (please note: no ‘e’), you expect someone to be tolerant of racism and homophobia just because racists and homophobes have ‘a different opinion’ to civilised people. No thanks! TERFS are just another hate group, and will be treated as such. Thanks for correcting my spelling, if i did that to you it would probably be classed as hate speech lol. As I said above, hate speech is illegal. Has been for decades now. My problem is how you define hate. And its pretty much anything that doesn't agree with your delusions. Because your feelings are hurt , because we challenge your thinking, and you don't have a solid foundation to your ideology, all you can do is cry hate speech and claim victim status. And this is no doubt hate speech to you, so you don't have to reply saying so. We all know that disagreeing with you is hate speech in your world lol Why do you think you are challenging anyone’s thinking here? Everything you’ve written you could read any day of the week on the GB News Facebook page, it’s not remotely challenging or interesting, more a regurgitated opinion. Which is probably why you seem to have written it in response to a post you imagined - it doesn’t seem to relate much to what was said at all. Also, it’s interesting that none of it conforms to your previously espoused ‘respect all opinions’ mantra…in fact you seem very triggered indeed by someone not agreeing with you. How ironic! Your hate is surpassed only by your inability to see your own hate. You don’t seem very tolerant! Respect is earned, so far I've not seen any from you. Being civil towards you was offered, your response indicated you no longer wanted it. All you're doing is confirming how insecure and intolerent you are. I'm quickly understanding why others tend to just shy away from these conversations. There's zero point to them. It just seems to be a platform to throw hate in the guise of being progressive. Gina, you can express hateful views in a perfectly civil way, it doesn't preclude you from being hateful. Nor gaslighting people. Its G, not Gina. Ah, so you telling me your hateful views are ok, but I can't share mine? Fair enough, we all know where we stand in this conversation now. (Not that I didnt before) Funny how these conversations always come back to you lot being the victim and us lot being the haters!?!?! " I'm telling you the opposite. To not be hateful and then hide yourself behind civility. I will also remimd you that it is you who butted into this thread. And lastly, since you always seem to ignore this, I will remind you about the difference between a) not respecting ideas and b) not respecting people. The former is totally fine, there are plenty of ideas worth not respecting and even actively foghting against. That is indeed what is happening here. The latter is obviously not ok. Now, with transphobes we have a situatiom where they try to push a worldview that would make trans people miserable. That is, they are harming and fighting against people, not ideas. They want to keep people like me from using the women's bathroom, that's very real. Don't out that on the same plane as me telling you your ideas are bs, because I don't intend to affect your real personal life in any way, shape or form. Cheerio | |||
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"It’s not bitchy at all, it’s not very warm but it’s your profile, if it’s working for you why change?" Thanks Tbh the lack of warmness is a result of me opening my message filter to men sometimes, I saw that otherwise I get too many messages from men that I wouldn't want anywhere near me — it's also true for couples but in a lesser extend. I guess I could do without that last paragraph and maybe add something that makes it a little more welcoming. | |||
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"By that ‘argument’ (please note: no ‘e’), you expect someone to be tolerant of racism and homophobia just because racists and homophobes have ‘a different opinion’ to civilised people. No thanks! TERFS are just another hate group, and will be treated as such. Thanks for correcting my spelling, if i did that to you it would probably be classed as hate speech lol. As I said above, hate speech is illegal. Has been for decades now. My problem is how you define hate. And its pretty much anything that doesn't agree with your delusions. Because your feelings are hurt , because we challenge your thinking, and you don't have a solid foundation to your ideology, all you can do is cry hate speech and claim victim status. And this is no doubt hate speech to you, so you don't have to reply saying so. We all know that disagreeing with you is hate speech in your world lol Why do you think you are challenging anyone’s thinking here? Everything you’ve written you could read any day of the week on the GB News Facebook page, it’s not remotely challenging or interesting, more a regurgitated opinion. Which is probably why you seem to have written it in response to a post you imagined - it doesn’t seem to relate much to what was said at all. Also, it’s interesting that none of it conforms to your previously espoused ‘respect all opinions’ mantra…in fact you seem very triggered indeed by someone not agreeing with you. How ironic! Your hate is surpassed only by your inability to see your own hate. You don’t seem very tolerant! Respect is earned, so far I've not seen any from you. Being civil towards you was offered, your response indicated you no longer wanted it. All you're doing is confirming how insecure and intolerent you are. I'm quickly understanding why others tend to just shy away from these conversations. There's zero point to them. It just seems to be a platform to throw hate in the guise of being progressive. What you mean to say is ‘I am tolerant of other people’s opinions, until they don’t agree with me, which is when my true colours show’. I'm tolerent of others till they are disrespective wee brats who claim victim all day long while spewing hate themselves. In that case yes." You literally said this: ‘I don't think badly of anyone who thinks differently from me or who has a different outlook on life.’ That’s clearly easy to say until your views are challenged in the most mild way, and then you spit the dummy out and become rude and insulting. So, the lesson you should probably learn here is that you really need to work quite a bit on your own tolerance before lecturing others on theirs. | |||
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"It’s not bitchy at all, it’s not very warm but it’s your profile, if it’s working for you why change? Thanks Tbh the lack of warmness is a result of me opening my message filter to men sometimes, I saw that otherwise I get too many messages from men that I wouldn't want anywhere near me — it's also true for couples but in a lesser extend. I guess I could do without that last paragraph and maybe add something that makes it a little more welcoming. " Understood, I get it. But don’t let it rub off on you , that’s a real shame when that happens. Anyway, Not matter what you put idiots will still message so you may as well be warm | |||
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"Reads find to me. Concise and precise. Thanks for telling us all what TERF stands for as well. Best wishes I would suggest anyone interested in TERF (a slur by the way) and the issues around it do a bit of reading on it. As the OP has given a really one-sided biased viewpoint of it all. Which is up to her, that's her view. But there is the whole other side of the argument. Just pointing that out No, there aren’t two sides to the ‘argument’. TERFS are just like any other hate group, they want tolerance for their abhorrent and outdated views, which are rejected by all civilised members of society." As I said. Let anyone interested look into it more and make their own minds up. There are two sides to every argument, even if you personally reject one side. Many people clearly have no idea what the issues are either way, have asked for clarity. Just having one side scream that the other side is "a hate group" isn't really going to forward the conversation. And there does need to be conversation. | |||
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"Reads find to me. Concise and precise. Thanks for telling us all what TERF stands for as well. Best wishes I would suggest anyone interested in TERF (a slur by the way) and the issues around it do a bit of reading on it. As the OP has given a really one-sided biased viewpoint of it all. Which is up to her, that's her view. But there is the whole other side of the argument. Just pointing that out No, there aren’t two sides to the ‘argument’. TERFS are just like any other hate group, they want tolerance for their abhorrent and outdated views, which are rejected by all civilised members of society. As I said. Let anyone interested look into it more and make their own minds up. There are two sides to every argument, even if you personally reject one side. Many people clearly have no idea what the issues are either way, have asked for clarity. Just having one side scream that the other side is "a hate group" isn't really going to forward the conversation. And there does need to be conversation. " I don't want to have a conversation about whether you consider me worthy to go on with my daily life as usual, thank you very much. | |||
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"Reads find to me. Concise and precise. Thanks for telling us all what TERF stands for as well. Best wishes I would suggest anyone interested in TERF (a slur by the way) and the issues around it do a bit of reading on it. As the OP has given a really one-sided biased viewpoint of it all. Which is up to her, that's her view. But there is the whole other side of the argument. Just pointing that out No, there aren’t two sides to the ‘argument’. TERFS are just like any other hate group, they want tolerance for their abhorrent and outdated views, which are rejected by all civilised members of society. As I said. Let anyone interested look into it more and make their own minds up. There are two sides to every argument, even if you personally reject one side. Many people clearly have no idea what the issues are either way, have asked for clarity. Just having one side scream that the other side is "a hate group" isn't really going to forward the conversation. And there does need to be conversation. " | |||
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"There's also a 2nd definition of TERF according to Twitter. "Tired of Explaining Reality to Fuckwits" Not calling anyone on the thread a fuckwit and I don't identify as a TERF. Just a public service announcement." My dear, I know my reality (and my biology, which TERFs tireless mentionl far better than any of you. My reality and my biology that is alted by hormones in so so many ways. I accept the things that I cannot change, but I'm also very aware of those that I can, and I do change. The biological essentialists seem to forget that. Do you even know of how many medical and biological realities are altered switching from running on testosterone to running on estrogen and progesterone and having no testosterone? If anyone needs to explain my reality to anyone, it's me to you. | |||
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