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Kissing at meets - Is it worth the risk?
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There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.
Kissing can transfer the following diseases; herpes virus, glandular fever, cold sores, warts, colds, influenza, mumps, covid-19, zika virus, ebola, malaria, gum disease, meningitis, syphilis, German measles, rabies and polio.
So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?
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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago
Torfaen/Gwent |
"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.
Kissing can transfer the following diseases; herpes virus, glandular fever, cold sores, warts, colds, influenza, mumps, covid-19, zika virus, ebola, malaria, gum disease, meningitis, syphilis, German measles, rabies and polio.
So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?
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Many of those don't need kissing to be transferred, simply being as close as sex generally is, would be enough.
So unless you're wearing full PPE with your condomed cock out, nothing is ever going to be a 100% and even being in PPE isn't a gaurentee of safety.
If you're worried about this, maybe swinging isn't for you. |
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"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.
Kissing can transfer the following diseases; herpes virus, glandular fever, cold sores, warts, colds, influenza, mumps, covid-19, zika virus, ebola, malaria, gum disease, meningitis, syphilis, German measles, rabies and polio.
So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?
Many of those don't need kissing to be transferred, simply being as close as sex generally is, would be enough.
So unless you're wearing full PPE with your condomed cock out, nothing is ever going to be a 100% and even being in PPE isn't a gaurentee of safety.
If you're worried about this, maybe swinging isn't for you. "
many of those you would only need to be in a room to risk catching them x |
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over a year ago
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"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.
Kissing can transfer the following diseases; herpes virus, glandular fever, cold sores, warts, colds, influenza, mumps, covid-19, zika virus, ebola, malaria, gum disease, meningitis, syphilis, German measles, rabies and polio.
So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?
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I can give you some Mummy advice - gargle with warm salty water after anything oral ....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes. Love a nice kiss. If you are that worried then why meet at all ?
I don't think he's worried, I read it as he's just upset that no one will let him bareback them  "
That's my take on it too x |
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"Risk tolerance in this country has gone down the pan. V irritating. How do some people cross the road without worrying about being hit by a meteorite?!"
To be honest,I never ever worried about being hit by a meteorite whilst crossing the road,but I will now,thanks
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If you want to be 100% safe from catching anything, I suggest you buy a small island somewhere, shut yourself off from the rest of the world and become self sufficient.... you'll be fine, unless there's a nuclear war... |
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To be honest,I never ever worried about being hit by a meteorite whilst crossing the road,but I will now,thanks
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I find wearing a tin foil hat gives 100% protection from meteors. I've never been hit by one |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Here is some good news OP. You are mistaken. You cannot catch rabies from kissing a human. "
You won't believe how relieved I am to read that. Fantastic - means I can snog without worrying I've passed it on to someone else! |
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"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.
Kissing can transfer the following diseases; herpes virus, glandular fever, cold sores, warts, colds, influenza, mumps, covid-19, zika virus, ebola, malaria, gum disease, meningitis, syphilis, German measles, rabies and polio.
So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?
Many of those don't need kissing to be transferred, simply being as close as sex generally is, would be enough.
So unless you're wearing full PPE with your condomed cock out, nothing is ever going to be a 100% and even being in PPE isn't a gaurentee of safety.
If you're worried about this, maybe swinging isn't for you. "
I was not making a personal statement; why did you comment on my own position?.
It is risk perception I was interested in. As I said "safe sex" people engage in kissing yet it is, if anything, more risky than bareback. |
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"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.
Kissing can transfer the following diseases; herpes virus, glandular fever, cold sores, warts, colds, influenza, mumps, covid-19, zika virus, ebola, malaria, gum disease, meningitis, syphilis, German measles, rabies and polio.
So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?
Many of those don't need kissing to be transferred, simply being as close as sex generally is, would be enough.
So unless you're wearing full PPE with your condomed cock out, nothing is ever going to be a 100% and even being in PPE isn't a gaurentee of safety.
If you're worried about this, maybe swinging isn't for you. many of those you would only need to be in a room to risk catching them x"
True, so perhaps "safe sex" is not possible? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well life is full of risks in all we do!
We could get hit by a bus crossing the road!
Struck by lightening! The list is endless...
I use condoms but I enjoy kissing! |
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"Yes. Love a nice kiss. If you are that worried then why meet at all ?
I don't think he's worried, I read it as he's just upset that no one will let him bareback them "
Please point out where I said anything about my own position. Why did you feel the need to personalise this?
It was a risk perception question not a personal one. |
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"Here is some good news OP. You are mistaken. You cannot catch rabies from kissing a human.
You won't believe how relieved I am to read that. Fantastic - means I can snog without worrying I've passed it on to someone else!"
Humans can catch rabies and if you kiss one .... But it is far more common with animals I agree.  |
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"Only "safer sex" is possible
Agreed. Knock off those risks you can avoid.
Safest sex is definitely same room sex on your own. Unless you're being bitten by malarial mosquitos and a rabid dog"
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"For me, kissing on a meet is very important, regardless of any risks involved. The chances of catching STI via kissing are much smaller than through bareback sex. "
True; but some of the other diseases caught via exchange of bodily fluids during kissing are worse than most STIs.  |
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Humans can catch rabies and if you kiss one ....
"No case of human to human rabies transmission has been documented"
BMJ July 2019"
Phew. Rabies is off the list. I would put Covid-19, most SARS infections and influenza as statistically more likely. But a quick spot of ebola, now you are talking.  |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
"Risk tolerance in this country has gone down the pan. V irritating. How do some people cross the road without worrying about being hit by a meteorite?!"
This is why I never cross roads, far to dangerous! The green cross code is useless, look right, look left and look right again, no mention of looking up! Scandalous |
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Cannot get intimate with someone without kissing IMO. I’ve turned down meets where a couple has said you can’t kiss her (smacks of a prostitute type of scenario).. sorry that is a deal breaker for me  |
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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago
Near Wells |
"Are you always wrapped in cotton wool?
At no point did I make any personal comment. Why did you need to make one? "
I didn't mean to be rude or offend you but I thought it was a strange comment to put on a sex site.
Life is full of risk but I think kissing is one of the lesser risks in life, even less risky than going to the supermarket.
I apologise x |
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over a year ago
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As I said "safe sex" people engage in kissing yet it is, if anything, more risky than bareback. "
Oh dear
Kissing more risky that bareback intercourse sex! I've now read it all.
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"Theirs less chance from kissing if you have oral hygiene.
How many even wash properly after bareback and how many have even consider washing before engaging into bareback"
It's often advised not to brush teeth in close proximity to sex, due to increasing the levels risk, rather than lowering them. |
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"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.
Kissing can transfer the following diseases; herpes virus, glandular fever, cold sores, warts, colds, influenza, mumps, covid-19, zika virus, ebola, malaria, gum disease, meningitis, syphilis, German measles, rabies and polio.
So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?
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If someone had all of those I think I would notice  |
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"Yes. Love a nice kiss. If you are that worried then why meet at all ?
I don't think he's worried, I read it as he's just upset that no one will let him bareback them "
It's usually the underlying topic they're really getting it.
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"Are you always wrapped in cotton wool?
At no point did I make any personal comment. Why did you need to make one?
I didn't mean to be rude or offend you but I thought it was a strange comment to put on a sex site.
Life is full of risk but I think kissing is one of the lesser risks in life, even less risky than going to the supermarket.
I apologise x"
Thank you. Just a misunderstanding friend.
Not a strange topic really. Kissing is a nice prelude to sexual contact. It's just some will happily wax lyrical about the dangers of bareback whilst kissing all and sundry. Both carry risks but I wondered how those really concerened about STIs viewed the situation. |
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"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.
Kissing can transfer the following diseases; herpes virus, glandular fever, cold sores, warts, colds, influenza, mumps, covid-19, zika virus, ebola, malaria, gum disease, meningitis, syphilis, German measles, rabies and polio.
So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?
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Well aren't you a bundle of joy |
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"Yes. Love a nice kiss. If you are that worried then why meet at all ?
I don't think he's worried, I read it as he's just upset that no one will let him bareback them
It's usually the underlying topic they're really getting it.
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Nope, as stated. Risk assessment. Simples. If I want to moan about not getting bareback that is what I will do; but on this occasion I did not express my own point of view. |
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"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.
Kissing can transfer the following diseases; herpes virus, glandular fever, cold sores, warts, colds, influenza, mumps, covid-19, zika virus, ebola, malaria, gum disease, meningitis, syphilis, German measles, rabies and polio.
So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?
Well aren't you a bundle of joy"
YES!!! Got me in one!! |
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"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.
Kissing can transfer the following diseases; herpes virus, glandular fever, cold sores, warts, colds, influenza, mumps, covid-19, zika virus, ebola, malaria, gum disease, meningitis, syphilis, German measles, rabies and polio.
So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?
If someone had all of those I think I would notice "
Hrm? No pulse? grey complexion? strange smell? possibly. |
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"Theirs less chance from kissing if you have oral hygiene.
How many even wash properly after bareback and how many have even consider washing before engaging into bareback
It's often advised not to brush teeth in close proximity to sex, due to increasing the levels risk, rather than lowering them. "
Do you use chlorohexidine? |
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"Cannot get intimate with someone without kissing IMO. I’ve turned down meets where a couple has said you can’t kiss her (smacks of a prostitute type of scenario).. sorry that is a deal breaker for me "
So worth the risks then? |
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"Cannot get intimate with someone without kissing IMO. I’ve turned down meets where a couple has said you can’t kiss her (smacks of a prostitute type of scenario).. sorry that is a deal breaker for me
So worth the risks then? "
What do you think, OP?
We all make our own risk assessments, and live by them. |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
Was this taken from the PHD, dished out by the University of FaceBook?
Putting things into perpsective..
Herpes virus: Which variety? Chicken pox or cold sores?
Glandular fever: I've not met anyone who had it since 1990
Cold sores: AKA scabby gob, generally on the mouth and quite visible...giz a kiss.
Warts: not all of them are contagious, some of them just sit there and are harmless
Colds: husky voice, sore throat and mouth, sneezing and coughing, you are likely to avoid them like the plague. Non-contact needed for transmission
Influenza: see above on colds
Mumps: haven't you had your jabs yet?
Covid-19: see above on colds, mumps and flu
Ebola: not a problem if you stay away from the African hotspots.
Malaria: see above
Gum disease: not always the case, please provide proof
Meningitis: this was causing problems for students not too long ago
Syphilis: provide more info
German measles: Where's your jab?
Rabies: pretty much non existent on these shores
Polio: considering most of the population had their drops as a baby, i'm not worried. |
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"Cannot get intimate with someone without kissing IMO. I’ve turned down meets where a couple has said you can’t kiss her (smacks of a prostitute type of scenario).. sorry that is a deal breaker for me
So worth the risks then?
What do you think, OP?
We all make our own risk assessments, and live by them. "
I think each will make their own decision. It's just the apparent perception that a disease caught through sexual intercourse is far more frightening and damaging than one through kissing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.
Kissing can transfer the following diseases; herpes virus, glandular fever, cold sores, warts, colds, influenza, mumps, covid-19, zika virus, ebola, malaria, gum disease, meningitis, syphilis, German measles, rabies and polio.
So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?
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Op your list is incomplete. You can also catch diarreah and mad cow disease from kissing. |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"Are you always wrapped in cotton wool?
I'm not, wool makes me itch.
Cotton wool is cotton, not wool.
It's a war of the roses thing."
Doh! It's still ticklish, I hate it when the dentist shoves in in my mouth. |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.
Kissing can transfer the following diseases; herpes virus, glandular fever, cold sores, warts, colds, influenza, mumps, covid-19, zika virus, ebola, malaria, gum disease, meningitis, syphilis, German measles, rabies and polio.
So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?
Op your list is incomplete. You can also catch diarreah and mad cow disease from kissing. "
and worst of all...BABIES, 9 months later! I heard it in the playground. |
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For me kissing is worth the risk.
For me bareback sex isn't.
You may see things differently, but thankfully I'm up front enough about my preferences that people I chat to can understand them and make an informed choice on whether or not they want to meet. |
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Safe human interaction of any sort isn't possible if you want to go down that route.
That's why we were locked up for months on end, no handshakes, masks, washing hands, sanitiser when you touch anything etc.
Different people have different risk profiles. I am sure anyone that doesn't want bareback sex is remiss for enjoying kissing someone. Yes there's a risk to kissing, but I would consider the risk profile way less than bareback sex. Some of the things you've listed are so rare in the UK, or people have been vaccinated against, that it seems paranoia to even consider them as a valid risk anyway. |
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By *lan157Man
over a year ago
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OP if you pose a question on the forum without stating the reason for asking or stating your own view then how is anyone to know how worrying this is to you? People kiss or don't kiss their playmates and I for one would not be that interested in someone who was not a kisser. |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
I think he's been listening to this cover of "I'll never fall in love again", by Deacon Blue...
What do you get when you kiss a girl
You get enough germs to catch pneumonia
After you do she'll never phone you
I'll never fall in love again
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"OP if you pose a question on the forum without stating the reason for asking or stating your own view then how is anyone to know how worrying this is to you? People kiss or don't kiss their playmates and I for one would not be that interested in someone who was not a kisser. "
The reason for asking was to hear peoples response to the question which was about risk perception. The reason for not stating my point of view is if that is done then forum posts rapidly gravitate into personal abuse from those who do not agree with the OP's standpoint and thus they defeat the object of the post.
Personally I am not at all worried by this. I was not seeking advice but opinion. Once again any disease attributable to genital contact is viewed as significantly worse than its normal life equivalent. |
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