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"To be honest anyone on here that isnt grown up enough to go get tested shouldnt be on here.. The only reason I get so heated on this topic to be fair is that its the one subject I find it hard to say "its their life". As if your not being tested potentially its not just your life your screwing with. I admit whole heartedly that I am in high risk area because I take lots of CIM, I sometimes have creampies, and the sheer volume of partners I will have at a time. However, even if I was just with one person, I would still get tested.. not because I don't trust them, but to be honest you can catch things in many many ways.. and to be fair the people I know that have ended up with bad complications are those that have been in serious relationships, and its been the partner that cheated and brought home a std. I play how I want because I understand the risks.. I know that playing bare is risky, but sometimes take the risks.. same as with cim... but I get myself checked regular. Even the months where I only use condoms for penetrative sex... I get checked. Why... because I don't worry so much about myself catching something.. but I worry about the fact that potentially if I didnt get checked I could pass it on to lots of people. Its okay for me to take my risks... but I am not going to overly risk others.. Please people.. do get checked.. the clinics are friendly places... and yes its daunting the first time... but after a while it will just be like any other medical procedure. Cali "  | |||
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"Were are still newbies but rest assured we are going to be checked on a regular basis although we are married I dont know where to start explaining why we are being tested!!!? Lol this is going to get tricky "no...  The clinic are not really bothered.. but I always find it best to be honest with them.. for one they offer me more.. and it just means that I get a better range of tests.
Think of it like a mot for yourselves. Really does make me smile when I am in the clinic and someone comes in for the first time.. you can always tell lol
but seriously.. EVERYONE is there for the same basic reason..
Cali | |||
"Were are still newbies but rest assured we are going to be checked on a regular basis although we are married I dont know where to start explaining why we are being tested!!!? Lol this is going to get tricky "doesnt really matter why. i just think its extremly responsible for people to do regularly. no one is able to not catch something its a risk for all of us and we all should protect ourselves and others | |||
"Were are still newbies but rest assured we are going to be checked on a regular basis although we are married I dont know where to start explaining why we are being tested!!!? Lol this is going to get tricky
no... The clinic are not really bothered.. but I always find it best to be honest with them.. for one they offer me more.. and it just means that I get a better range of tests.
Think of it like a mot for yourselves. Really does make me smile when I am in the clinic and someone comes in for the first time.. you can always tell lol
but seriously.. EVERYONE is there for the same basic reason..
Cali "Lol I know I'll be fine, these things usually don't phase me although when I get nervous I jabber on, I'll be coming out with all sorts of details!!!  | |||
"Were are still newbies but rest assured we are going to be checked on a regular basis although we are married I dont know where to start explaining why we are being tested!!!? Lol this is going to get tricky
no... The clinic are not really bothered.. but I always find it best to be honest with them.. for one they offer me more.. and it just means that I get a better range of tests.
Think of it like a mot for yourselves. Really does make me smile when I am in the clinic and someone comes in for the first time.. you can always tell lol
but seriously.. EVERYONE is there for the same basic reason..
Cali
Lol I know I'll be fine, these things usually don't phase me although when I get nervous I jabber on, I'll be coming out with all sorts of details!!! "lol theyve probably heard it all before lol  | |||
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"I am not sure if my clinic think I am serious or joking when they ask me how many partners.. but to be fair they have a laugh with me.. I only go there if I dont have a doctors check needed.. as I have gynae issues that means I am checked at the doctors a lot.. but to be honest doctor or clinic they are fine.. although we did once have a trainee in and I had 3 group sessions in the week before I went.. I think it was nearly 100 men in that month. She dropped the clip board. Cali " Haha I bet you opened her eyes!  | |||
"I am not sure if my clinic think I am serious or joking when they ask me how many partners.. but to be fair they have a laugh with me.. I only go there if I dont have a doctors check needed.. as I have gynae issues that means I am checked at the doctors a lot.. but to be honest doctor or clinic they are fine.. although we did once have a trainee in and I had 3 group sessions in the week before I went.. I think it was nearly 100 men in that month. She dropped the clip board. Cali " haha poor girl lol i never even approach the subject i just tell them wanting another check up and that ive had a few partners or ive had unprotected. (only unprotected with long term etc) | |||
I don't worry as I am just there to be responsible and grown up about my sexual antics.
But yes it does add to the fun for me that people don't know whether to take me serious or not.
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"I'm not slamming getting tested (far from it) but surely it means you were only clean on the day you were tested? You could be tested as being 'clean' at the clinic, play the next day and pick something up then, 4 weeks down the line and 2 weeks before your next test (but extolling your clean status as per last GUM visit) pass that onto someone else. Using condoms doesn't necessarily mean you're free of STDs - neither does a clear test you had 5 weeks ago if you're active. Just playing the devil's advocate here "yes that is how it is.. I will get my results and maybe have 30-40 guys the week after.. to be fair I would say on average between testing full sex would be about 5-10 guys in that time.. bare... mostly just Master ( but maybe 2-3 times a year that I will with another) and about 50plus orally in between tests.. So yes to be fair I could catch something inbetween... but that is why I personally go often. To be honest there are times I have been twice in a month.. which is why I have to be honest with the clinic. They wont refuse to test you that often.. but they want to know its not just you being paranoid. although to be honest even I sometimes use different clinics. cali | |||
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"I'm not slamming getting tested (far from it) but surely it means you were only clean on the day you were tested? You could be tested as being 'clean' at the clinic, play the next day and pick something up then, 4 weeks down the line and 2 weeks before your next test (but extolling your clean status as per last GUM visit) pass that onto someone else. Using condoms doesn't necessarily mean you're free of STDs - neither does a clear test you had 5 weeks ago if you're active. Just playing the devil's advocate here "which is why everyone should be checked regularly | |||
enjoy and play safe
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"Were are still newbies but rest assured we are going to be checked on a regular basis although we are married I dont know where to start explaining why we are being tested!!!? Lol this is going to get tricky "Hi Fanny and Balls It doesn't matter what you tell the clinic. Tell them whatever you are comfortable with. The clinic wants you there and they can give you even better service if they know what you get up to. I have told mine that we swing and we get a full work-up including mouth swabs every time. Jane x | |||
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"you would drive a car with out geting the tyers checked reguler most people when they leave there home lock the door then double check to make shure its locked when i turn the gas stove off i check to make shure the gas has gone out so why have sex with a stranger or strangers and not get your self checked out its stupid the way some think they can use a condom and be 100% safe " | |||
"Here is another angle about when using condoms. I always practice safe sex as have had a couple of scares over the years. Now when wearing a condom and a guy is having sex with a woman who gets really wet. The reason why I mention this is i have noticed the condom very wet inside. This isnt pre cum either. There is a chance of catching something that way " we have had it ware the guys condom roled forward and the condom although it didnt come off ended up going inside Jane so he wasnt completly covered yet another reason for reguler testing | |||
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"I can't believe how naive some people are about sex and sexual health. I have had to walk away from a conversation with a woman in her 50's this week at work as she feels that she could not possibly have an STD as she only has monogamous relationships...the fact that relationships is plural, and the man she is currently seeing is married seems to have completely slipped her mind! She was basically saying that anyone who has casual sex must be riddled...I left the conversation before telling her exactly how stupid she was being as I just could not believe someone of her age and intelligence could be so stupid! I didn't think it would be wise to tell her my sexual history in front of all the sales lads, but I must admit I did struggle to bite my tongue! x" I know someone like that! She seems to think that at 'her age' she'll be fine. In fact a lot of people think the same. Apparently if the other person says they are 'safe'... then they are. It only takes once...! 
Thank you for posting this Cali. Interesting to see who has/ who hasn't posted on it....... | |||
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"I really wish someone would tell me how the testing works. This is what I do, I go without sex for 2 weeks get tested then go without for another 2 weeks but I keep seeing things about how some get tested every cpl weeks or so and I'm just so confused. " I was at the clap clinic last Friday, had the full range of swabs, throat, vag n backside plus bloods (only took 3 goes to get my blood, I've not got very good veins) and the nurse told me to abstain from unprotected sex for 2 weeks till the results come in.....told her I don't do BB, she was happy with that, and wasn't bothered that I hadn't abstained for 2 weeks previously...I go every 6 months but considering changing it to every 3 seeing as the nurse ran out of space on my list of sexual partners (and tbh, my memory ain't what it used to be), but she said so long as I could contact all of them if needs be then no problem.....also talked about the oral without question and she congratulated me on being a good condom user for penetrative sex and agreed the risk from oral was less......end of the day, it's a personal risk assessment, if you want to abstain 2 weeks either side fair do's
Bonus was about 50 free condoms and a coupla dozen sachets of lube so that's another plus to going more frequently  | |||
Now I'm an idiot since I'm not prepared to pay ?500 for a jab which has a lower rate of efficacy in the over 25s and may give me no protection at all if I have been exposed to (though I may not have or be a carrier of) the virus. | |||
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"I've only just read the GP thread. Just... wow......... "Yep. I wrote my last post and then had to go somewhere. I wondered if I'd been a little harsh. Just reread and nope, I was rational, informed and concerned. Anyway, best not rehash or I'll get three days off
Educate yourself, decide what risks you are happy to take, and if you're sexually active at all get a six month health check for peace of mind - wherever you choose to do it. Some of us choose to get checked more often, but as long as you know that not everything has symptoms and some of our sexual partners (,even those closest to us) may lie. | |||
"I've only just read the GP thread. Just... wow.........
Yep. I wrote my last post and then had to go somewhere. I wondered if I'd been a little harsh. Just reread and nope, I was rational, informed and concerned.
Anyway, best not rehash or I'll get three days off
Educate yourself, decide what risks you are happy to take, and if you're sexually active at all get a six month health check for peace of mind - wherever you choose to do it. Some of us choose to get checked more often, but as long as you know that not everything has symptoms and some of our sexual partners (,even those closest to us) may lie."
I wouldnt like to comment too much either lol. But I read the whole thing looking like this.
Didn't think you or others were harsh at all. Fair reaction from all but one. | |||
"I've only just read the GP thread. Just... wow.........
Yep. I wrote my last post and then had to go somewhere. I wondered if I'd been a little harsh. Just reread and nope, I was rational, informed and concerned.
Anyway, best not rehash or I'll get three days off
Educate yourself, decide what risks you are happy to take, and if you're sexually active at all get a six month health check for peace of mind - wherever you choose to do it. Some of us choose to get checked more often, but as long as you know that not everything has symptoms and some of our sexual partners (,even those closest to us) may lie." i too thought maybe i was bit harsh but then kept re-reading incase i had misread etc lol but every time i just thought | |||
"I really wish someone would tell me how the testing works. This is what I do, I go without sex for 2 weeks get tested then go without for another 2 weeks but I keep seeing things about how some get tested every cpl weeks or so and I'm just so confused. " the only way you would need tested every couple of weeks is if you have ever picked something up or your getting a fals positive other than that every 6 months deppending on how active you are is enough we dont play that often now as Jane dont get alot of spare time due to work so 6 months is plenty for us unless the guy phones us if hes had a bad result that happend to us last year and it took 4 months to get the all clear due to one of us getting a fals positive but we refused to play till we got the all clear | |||
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"Cali have you ever thought of writing a book? A ghost writer will actually write it and you just talk. I can see it selling well "
And it would be better than that dumb shadey grey book! | |||
"I really wish someone would tell me how the testing works. This is what I do, I go without sex for 2 weeks get tested then go without for another 2 weeks but I keep seeing things about how some get tested every cpl weeks or so and I'm just so confused. I was at the clap clinic last Friday, had the full range of swabs, throat, vag n backside plus bloods (only took 3 goes to get my blood, I've not got very good veins) and the nurse told me to abstain from unprotected sex for 2 weeks till the results come in.....told her I don't do BB, she was happy with that, and wasn't bothered that I hadn't abstained for 2 weeks previously...I go every 6 months but considering changing it to every 3 seeing as the nurse ran out of space on my list of sexual partners (and tbh, my memory ain't what it used to be), but she said so long as I could contact all of them if needs be then no problem.....also talked about the oral without question and she congratulated me on being a good condom user for penetrative sex and agreed the risk from oral was less......end of the day, it's a personal risk assessment, if you want to abstain 2 weeks either side fair do's
Bonus was about 50 free condoms and a coupla dozen sachets of lube so that's another plus to going more frequently "Thank you that makes sense | |||
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"I really wish someone would tell me how the testing works. This is what I do, I go without sex for 2 weeks get tested then go without for another 2 weeks but I keep seeing things about how some get tested every cpl weeks or so and I'm just so confused. I was at the clap clinic last Friday, had the full range of swabs, throat, vag n backside plus bloods (only took 3 goes to get my blood, I've not got very good veins) and the nurse told me to abstain from unprotected sex for 2 weeks till the results come in.....told her I don't do BB, she was happy with that, and wasn't bothered that I hadn't abstained for 2 weeks previously...I go every 6 months but considering changing it to every 3 seeing as the nurse ran out of space on my list of sexual partners (and tbh, my memory ain't what it used to be), but she said so long as I could contact all of them if needs be then no problem.....also talked about the oral without question and she congratulated me on being a good condom user for penetrative sex and agreed the risk from oral was less......end of the day, it's a personal risk assessment, if you want to abstain 2 weeks either side fair do's
Bonus was about 50 free condoms and a coupla dozen sachets of lube so that's another plus to going more frequently "So what do you do, keep a name and address log of your encounters after prior verifing two forms of ID ? | |||
"I really wish someone would tell me how the testing works. This is what I do, I go without sex for 2 weeks get tested then go without for another 2 weeks but I keep seeing things about how some get tested every cpl weeks or so and I'm just so confused. I was at the clap clinic last Friday, had the full range of swabs, throat, vag n backside plus bloods (only took 3 goes to get my blood, I've not got very good veins) and the nurse told me to abstain from unprotected sex for 2 weeks till the results come in.....told her I don't do BB, she was happy with that, and wasn't bothered that I hadn't abstained for 2 weeks previously...I go every 6 months but considering changing it to every 3 seeing as the nurse ran out of space on my list of sexual partners (and tbh, my memory ain't what it used to be), but she said so long as I could contact all of them if needs be then no problem.....also talked about the oral without question and she congratulated me on being a good condom user for penetrative sex and agreed the risk from oral was less......end of the day, it's a personal risk assessment, if you want to abstain 2 weeks either side fair do's
Bonus was about 50 free condoms and a coupla dozen sachets of lube so that's another plus to going more frequently
So what do you do, keep a name and address log of your encounters after prior verifing two forms of ID ?"LOL....Yeah, plus a signed note off their mam..... Seriously tho' it's just Alan from Aspatria, Ben from Bolton, Carla from Chorley and what sort of sex I had with each of them....and I'm totally honest with the clinic, these may or may not be folks real names, I don't always know for def, but as I only meet people off Fab, I can get in touch via their profiles and/or phone numbers if needed.....in a club or party situation, there may be a little less familiarity, but usually someone who was playing with me would hopefully be able to provide some sort of contact details if required | |||
"I go every 6 months but considering changing it to every 3 seeing as the nurse ran out of space on my list of sexual partners " We go every SIX WEEKS. If you are not going that frequently, the tests have little of no validity, specially if you are a fully active swinger. In porn, it is every 30 days for good reason. | |||
"I had to explain to someone what the HPV jab is for - she was suggesting that men should only play with women who've had it cos they were putting themselves at risk. So thats men putting themselves at risk of cervical cancer... "HPV has only recently been recognised as an important factor in mouth cancer. Mouth cancers have generally been in the older person who smokes and, or, heavily drinks. But there are now more cases in younger people, who don't smoke or drink, that have been found to be HPV related - youngest I've seen was in his late 30s who needed a drastic removal of tongue and all neck glands. It's all thought to be down to more oral....that's my fate decided then... Good news is that they're generally easier treated than smoking/drinking related cancers. | |||
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"I go every 6 months but considering changing it to every 3 seeing as the nurse ran out of space on my list of sexual partners We go every SIX WEEKS. If you are not going that frequently, the tests have little of no validity, specially if you are a fully active swinger. In porn, it is every 30 days for good reason. " Fair comment, but also the validity is just that at that moment that you were tested, you were disease free, as has been mentioned before some STDs have a 2 week incubation period so if you abstained 2 weeks either side then you've got a month where you're clean, but getting tested every 6 weeks only would give you 2 weeks playing ....everyone makes their own decisions/risk assessments, hopefully threads like this serve to remind folk and reassure them that there's no shame in going along for the full set of tests (and you can get free johnnies and lube) | |||
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"I go every 6 months but considering changing it to every 3 seeing as the nurse ran out of space on my list of sexual partners We go every SIX WEEKS. If you are not going that frequently, the tests have little of no validity, specially if you are a fully active swinger. In porn, it is every 30 days for good reason. Fair comment, but also the validity is just that at that moment that you were tested, you were disease free, as has been mentioned before some STDs have a 2 week incubation period so if you abstained 2 weeks either side then you've got a month where you're clean, but getting tested every 6 weeks only would give you 2 weeks playing ....everyone makes their own decisions/risk assessments, hopefully threads like this serve to remind folk and reassure them that there's no shame in going along for the full set of tests (and you can get free johnnies and lube) "And you can often get dental dams and also non-latex condoms too if you ask. The larger sizes they don't always have, but I like to keep a selection handy... | |||
"For the test to have any relevance you would need to go after every encounter...not once in a while 'just to be on the safe side'... If one couple got it on with a another who had two meets a month and those two had two and so on, they would be 400 times more likely to catch something over a year..." so what is your point are you saying testing is a wast of time? | |||
"what is your point are you saying testing is a wast of time?" Oh no not at all...once in a blue moon is even better than nothing...but if someone is going to be really responsible they would/should get tested after each meet..theres no point in having a session then having 6 more before your tested really is there? the sooner the test is done the sooner you can either carry on, or if someone does find they have been unlucky enough to pick something up they can start the treatment before it becomes worse. | |||
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"what is your point are you saying testing is a wast of time? Oh no not at all...once in a blue moon is even better than nothing...but if someone is going to be really responsible they would/should get tested after each meet..theres no point in having a session then having 6 more before your tested really is there? the sooner the test is done the sooner you can either carry on, or if someone does find they have been unlucky enough to pick something up they can start the treatment before it becomes worse." Most weeks I meet 4 days out of seven.. and its multiple guy play.. For me it would mean going to the clinic daily for that to happen.. So we go between 6-12 weeks... although if we are playing a lot.. its monthly.
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"what is your point are you saying testing is a wast of time? Oh no not at all...once in a blue moon is even better than nothing...but if someone is going to be really responsible they would/should get tested after each meet..theres no point in having a session then having 6 more before your tested really is there? the sooner the test is done the sooner you can either carry on, or if someone does find they have been unlucky enough to pick something up they can start the treatment before it becomes worse." thank god for that i though you were going to say it pointless for a min but now i get what you meen i agrea i think the more you play the more you should get tested but it has to be a ratio that suits your self and your play time | |||
"One thing about the GP thread. One person appears to be unsafe/ head in the sand/ oblivious to risks. Someone said they would avoid that person and anyone that had a veri linked to them. However.... There will be tons of people out there just the same, so it's probably wise to assume that everyone you meet has the same (bad, risky) attitude. Obviously most people won't be as daft. I'm not tarring everyone with the same brush at all. But I just mean.... You never know..... "I think assuming everyone you meet is a risk is a healthy attitude to take...keeps you more alert to the fact that one of those people could be. Having said that, notes have been made on a certain profile that should any of her meets contact me they will be given a wide berth...and probably told exactly why! Some people seem to be under the impression they're indestructible. I just hope they're right x | |||
"I go every 6 months but considering changing it to every 3 seeing as the nurse ran out of space on my list of sexual partners We go every SIX WEEKS. If you are not going that frequently, the tests have little of no validity, specially if you are a fully active swinger. In porn, it is every 30 days for good reason. Fair comment, but also the validity is just that at that moment that you were tested, you were disease free, as has been mentioned before some STDs have a 2 week incubation period so if you abstained 2 weeks either side then you've got a month where you're clean, but getting tested every 6 weeks only would give you 2 weeks playing ....everyone makes their own decisions/risk assessments, hopefully threads like this serve to remind folk and reassure them that there's no shame in going along for the full set of tests (and you can get free johnnies and lube) "Caz, you are quite right, but imho (Pork) if you are swinging then the frequency of the testing has to be greater. In our case if something is missed or has not presented itself yet at Test 1, in six weeks, it should show up. Not an exactly scientific way of doing it but the more you get tested the more chance you have of getting clear and staying that way. But do accept the point you are making. We're singing off the same hymn sheet bascially - just on different verses... | |||
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"so if we play bareback and catch say aids, and we decided to always play bareback with everyone but tested every week. say on week 6 we play with a couple who has aids and passes it on to us, but all is fine because we've 'been tested' how do we explain to our kids that mummy and daddy might die of aids related illness because we decided to play russian roulette? a positive test result for some stds means you can begin treatment, but not all can be 'cured'. A bit like picking a random pair of glasses to drive in, every now and then you might get a dodgy pair. our opinion anyway" I have to say that it could happen even using condoms.. it would be rare.. but condoms are not 100% and if you have unprotected oral there is a risk there.. if you finger someone there is a risk.. if a woman squirts there is a risk.. What my post was pointing out is however you play.. no matter how safe you think you are being.. you need to be tested. We do play bareback on occasion.. its our choice.. we do have kids.. If we caught something then we catch something.. and we deal with the consequences.. The only time I wont play with others till I have had the all clear though is when we have played totally bareback with someone.. then we wait.. Its all about personal risk assessment.. cali | |||
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"I can tell from some responses that crop up on the sexual health testing discussions and the lack of understanding and eduction people have surrounding STIs, that many do not get tested. It would be beneficial if you were partaking in any hobby that you'd read up on the facts and gain information. If people are getting tested as regularly as they indicate, they how come many people do not have a clue on infections, symptoms and how to minimise risk. The clinic is full of leaflets, the medical staff explain at length, there's a sexual advisor on hand to go through all this, so why aren't we all clued up and why are there so many misconceptions about infectiuons, mode of transmission and risk. The only thing some people seem to care about is getting free condoms which shows the mentality if people think saving £3 is more important than information to keep yourself safe and healthy "+1 | |||
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" Most weeks I meet 4 days out of seven.. and its multiple guy play.. For me it would mean going to the clinic daily for that to happen.. So we go between 6-12 weeks... although if we are playing a lot.. its monthly.
Cali "Hi Cali Im no mathematician..but assuming multi guy play is say 3 at a time?...4 times a week = 12 guys a week You go every for a check every 6-12 weeks, lets say 9 then.. 9 x 12 = 108 contacts: 1 test Cali, im not judging, you live YOUR LIFE how you want to live it..it is your life at the end of the day... but if I have got the averages right based on what you have said...that, to me is taking an awful risk...ok perhaps thats a part of the buzz, fair enough but those ratios are more like playing Russian roulette with five bullets in the chamber... (not criticising you btw x) | |||
" Most weeks I meet 4 days out of seven.. and its multiple guy play.. For me it would mean going to the clinic daily for that to happen.. So we go between 6-12 weeks... although if we are playing a lot.. its monthly.
Cali
Hi Cali
Im no mathematician..but assuming multi guy play is say 3 at a time?...4 times a week = 12 guys a week
You go every for a check every 6-12 weeks, lets say 9 then..
9 x 12 = 108 contacts: 1 test
Cali, im not judging, you live YOUR LIFE how you want to live it..it is your life at the end of the day... but if I have got the averages right based on what you have said...that, to me is taking an awful risk...ok perhaps thats a part of the buzz, fair enough but those ratios are more like playing Russian roulette with five bullets in the chamber...
(not criticising you btw x)"I know the risks.. but I mostly do just do oral on my multiple guys and no It's more like 10plus each time. I rarely have full sex protected or otherwise with anyone but master or a regular partner.. so that limits my play. If I'm playing with lots of guys its a monthly test. As I've only had one in the last 6 weeks its been a 6 week gap. I rarely do bareback.. but always do oral to completion... I worked out that as I've never caught anything in some 20years of oral without a condom and sometimes topping 100guys a month that It's a low risk. My clinic and doctor know how I play... And are always happy to tell me any new things. One test every 4 weeks or 6 weeks depending is maybe not enough but It's what I'm happy doing. And as I said already.. if I bareback then I wait for my all clear before playing again. It's not ideal but it works for me. Cali | |||
