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By *heaspieswinger OP   Man  over a year ago

Peak District

Mr HLC here...

Incoming wall of text

I’ve recently reconnected with an old friend on FB. Didn’t think much of it until a few messages in. She was telling me about her abusive ex, and a guy that was messing her around.

The conversation got into how she hasn’t been able to explore her sexuality because of him. She’s since told me about her experiences with a couple who she was friends with.

For the last few days, we’ve discussing sex and I’ve been helping her read up on different kinks, and introduced her to the term ‘unicorn’ (which she was very excited about!) Since then she’s signed up on here (no, I’m not pointing her out to you )

From being on FAB I’ve helped her with her profile; how to recognise fakes; etc. She’s sent me some intimate photos for some advice on what’s good for here (only a handful of them are any good.) I’ve said that when the plague has gone, she can come to ours, I’ll set my studio up and take some FAB suitable photos for her.

Her and I had one enjoyable evening together many many years ago, so we already know each other intimately.

Mrs HLC has been fully aware of everything throughout, has seen the photos and will be there at the photoshoot. They’re also friends on FB. She has read all of the messages and has no issues at all.

Here’s the thing:

I’m feeling a little weird about this.

My natural instinct is “Why isn’t Mrs HLC bothered about this at all?” After all, I’m having intimate discussions with someone I’ve slept with, while Mrs HLC isn’t involved.

The photos she sent were of poor quality but, well, arousing. Very arousing.

The photoshoot will be very intimate, with some explicit photos. The way they’re both talking to me about it (though not to each other) it might end up being more than a photoshoot.

How do I navigate this? I kinda feel like they both know something will happen but I’m staying detached, friendly and as far as the photoshoot, professional.

If we do end up in a threesome, I’m not good at spontaneous stuff. I like rules, knowing everyone’s boundaries beforehand, and I don’t want to damage any part of any relationship.

Any advice?

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

Yes. Talk to the women concerned and explain your concerns.

Be very wary of getting involved with a woman who has come out of an abusive relationship as anything other than a friend.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think be straight up about everything with everyone.

Its a disaster waiting to happen otherwise!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Mr HLC here...

Incoming wall of text

I’ve recently reconnected with an old friend on FB. Didn’t think much of it until a few messages in. She was telling me about her abusive ex, and a guy that was messing her around.

The conversation got into how she hasn’t been able to explore her sexuality because of him. She’s since told me about her experiences with a couple who she was friends with.

For the last few days, we’ve discussing sex and I’ve been helping her read up on different kinks, and introduced her to the term ‘unicorn’ (which she was very excited about!) Since then she’s signed up on here (no, I’m not pointing her out to you )

From being on FAB I’ve helped her with her profile; how to recognise fakes; etc. She’s sent me some intimate photos for some advice on what’s good for here (only a handful of them are any good.) I’ve said that when the plague has gone, she can come to ours, I’ll set my studio up and take some FAB suitable photos for her.

Her and I had one enjoyable evening together many many years ago, so we already know each other intimately.

Mrs HLC has been fully aware of everything throughout, has seen the photos and will be there at the photoshoot. They’re also friends on FB. She has read all of the messages and has no issues at all.

Here’s the thing:

I’m feeling a little weird about this.

My natural instinct is “Why isn’t Mrs HLC bothered about this at all?” After all, I’m having intimate discussions with someone I’ve slept with, while Mrs HLC isn’t involved.

The photos she sent were of poor quality but, well, arousing. Very arousing.

The photoshoot will be very intimate, with some explicit photos. The way they’re both talking to me about it (though not to each other) it might end up being more than a photoshoot.

How do I navigate this? I kinda feel like they both know something will happen but I’m staying detached, friendly and as far as the photoshoot, professional.

If we do end up in a threesome, I’m not good at spontaneous stuff. I like rules, knowing everyone’s boundaries beforehand, and I don’t want to damage any part of any relationship.

Any advice?"

My advice to you would be, as a great man twice said; "Fuck her right in the pussy."

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By *he RingmasterMan  over a year ago

Canford Cliffs

If there wasn't a lockdown at the moment I'd be organising you a parade

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By *heaspieswinger OP   Man  over a year ago

Peak District

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By *heaspieswinger OP   Man  over a year ago

Peak District


"My advice to you would be, as a great man twice said; "Fuck her right in the pussy.""

If that becomes an option that we're all comfortable with - it will happen!

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By *heaspieswinger OP   Man  over a year ago

Peak District


"Yes. Talk to the women concerned and explain your concerns.

Be very wary of getting involved with a woman who has come out of an abusive relationship as anything other than a friend."

The abusive relationship was many many years ago, fortunately.

She's just told me recently because we've not seen each other in years.

Talking to both of them is certainly a good idea, but I'm worried that if I've read the situation incorrectly, that I'll alienate the friend (who has sent me very intimate photos!) and pissing of my fiancée (who has seen the photos and not even flinched!)

I have a habit of overthinking things though.

BUT - my fiancée has recently said no to swapping with a friend and his wife that I've known for 20 odd years, but not seen for the last 18 of those. But she seems to enjoy me talking with my female friend.

I'll keep the conversations between myself and my friend helpful I think.

Post the plague we've all agreed to meet up for a drink to catch up in person. The photoshoot will be at a later date, so we'll see where the conversation goes over a drink.

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By *heaspieswinger OP   Man  over a year ago

Peak District


"I think be straight up about everything with everyone.

Its a disaster waiting to happen otherwise! "

But - what if I'm totally reading them both wrong? And I fuck a friendship up and piss off my fiancée?

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By *heaspieswinger OP   Man  over a year ago

Peak District


"If there wasn't a lockdown at the moment I'd be organising you a parade"

Well, there's nothing to celebrate for.... yet

If it happens and we have our first MFF, I'll be sure to ask for that parade

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"Yes. Talk to the women concerned and explain your concerns.

Be very wary of getting involved with a woman who has come out of an abusive relationship as anything other than a friend.

The abusive relationship was many many years ago, fortunately.

She's just told me recently because we've not seen each other in years.

Talking to both of them is certainly a good idea, but I'm worried that if I've read the situation incorrectly, that I'll alienate the friend (who has sent me very intimate photos!) and pissing of my fiancée (who has seen the photos and not even flinched!)

I have a habit of overthinking things though.

BUT - my fiancée has recently said no to swapping with a friend and his wife that I've known for 20 odd years, but not seen for the last 18 of those. But she seems to enjoy me talking with my female friend.

I'll keep the conversations between myself and my friend helpful I think.

Post the plague we've all agreed to meet up for a drink to catch up in person. The photoshoot will be at a later date, so we'll see where the conversation goes over a drink."

If you don't talk to them you will never know if you've misread the situation until it all goes horribly wrong. If your fiancée has seen the messages and photos why haven't you talked? Her silence on the matter speaks volumes to m If I remain silent on a matter it means I am just giving someone enough rope to hang themselves

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By *heaspieswinger OP   Man  over a year ago

Peak District


"If you don't talk to them you will never know if you've misread the situation until it all goes horribly wrong. If your fiancée has seen the messages and photos why haven't you talked? Her silence on the matter speaks volumes to m If I remain silent on a matter it means I am just giving someone enough rope to hang themselves"

She's not like that fortunately. Not a malicious bone in her body. If she had a problem with it, shed be the first to let me know!

I'm wary of talking about it with her because of how she's just rejected the idea of my other friend and his wife. She was upfront about that. And we've not swung for about two years now, so she's a little insecure about it.

Added to that the stress she's under as a key worker doing 80 hours overtime a month on top of already long shifts.

I don't want to seem like I'm pushing her into something, but at the same time - the signs seem to be there and I don't want to miss an opportunity!

If the current situation was different, we'd have all met up by now and I'd probably not even be asking the question...

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By *heaspieswinger OP   Man  over a year ago

Peak District


"If you don't talk to them you will never know if you've misread the situation until it all goes horribly wrong. If your fiancée has seen the messages and photos why haven't you talked? Her silence on the matter speaks volumes to m If I remain silent on a matter it means I am just giving someone enough rope to hang themselves

She's not like that fortunately. Not a malicious bone in her body. If she had a problem with it, shed be the first to let me know!

I'm wary of talking about it with her because of how she's just rejected the idea of my other friend and his wife. She was upfront about that. And we've not swung for about two years now, so she's a little insecure about it.

Added to that the stress she's under as a key worker doing 80 hours overtime a month on top of already long shifts.

I don't want to seem like I'm pushing her into something, but at the same time - the signs seem to be there and I don't want to miss an opportunity!

If the current situation was different, we'd have all met up by now and I'd probably not even be asking the question... "

I should add, we have talked to make sure she's ok with my friend and I talking about stuff. She is absolutely fine with it, but hasn't said much else. She's so busy and working so hard

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"If you don't talk to them you will never know if you've misread the situation until it all goes horribly wrong. If your fiancée has seen the messages and photos why haven't you talked? Her silence on the matter speaks volumes to m If I remain silent on a matter it means I am just giving someone enough rope to hang themselves

She's not like that fortunately. Not a malicious bone in her body. If she had a problem with it, shed be the first to let me know!

I'm wary of talking about it with her because of how she's just rejected the idea of my other friend and his wife. She was upfront about that. And we've not swung for about two years now, so she's a little insecure about it.

Added to that the stress she's under as a key worker doing 80 hours overtime a month on top of already long shifts.

I don't want to seem like I'm pushing her into something, but at the same time - the signs seem to be there and I don't want to miss an opportunity!

If the current situation was different, we'd have all met up by now and I'd probably not even be asking the question... "

I'm not malicious either.

Well if you feel ok going on signs rather than talking you'll have to see how things go.

Good luck

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By *heaspieswinger OP   Man  over a year ago

Peak District


"I'm not malicious either.

Well if you feel ok going on signs rather than talking you'll have to see how things go.

Good luck"

Well, lockdown will be on for a while yet, so plenty of time to see how things develop

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By *teveanddebsCouple  over a year ago

Norwich


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I'm wary of talking about it with her because of how she's just rejected the idea of my other friend and his wife. She was upfront about that. And we've not swung for about two years now, so she's a little insecure about it.

"

Maybe she just didn't fancy the other friend?

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By *onglegs888Couple  over a year ago

Birmingham

Personally we don’t mix ‘real life’ with our swinging life. We’ve found that to be an excellent approach.... and by the amount of consternation this is causing you I’d say it’s decent advice

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Mr HLC here...

Incoming wall of text

I’ve recently reconnected with an old friend on FB. Didn’t think much of it until a few messages in. She was telling me about her abusive ex, and a guy that was messing her around.

The conversation got into how she hasn’t been able to explore her sexuality because of him. She’s since told me about her experiences with a couple who she was friends with.

For the last few days, we’ve discussing sex and I’ve been helping her read up on different kinks, and introduced her to the term ‘unicorn’ (which she was very excited about!) Since then she’s signed up on here (no, I’m not pointing her out to you )

From being on FAB I’ve helped her with her profile; how to recognise fakes; etc. She’s sent me some intimate photos for some advice on what’s good for here (only a handful of them are any good.) I’ve said that when the plague has gone, she can come to ours, I’ll set my studio up and take some FAB suitable photos for her.

Her and I had one enjoyable evening together many many years ago, so we already know each other intimately.

Mrs HLC has been fully aware of everything throughout, has seen the photos and will be there at the photoshoot. They’re also friends on FB. She has read all of the messages and has no issues at all.

Here’s the thing:

I’m feeling a little weird about this.

My natural instinct is “Why isn’t Mrs HLC bothered about this at all?” After all, I’m having intimate discussions with someone I’ve slept with, while Mrs HLC isn’t involved.

The photos she sent were of poor quality but, well, arousing. Very arousing.

The photoshoot will be very intimate, with some explicit photos. The way they’re both talking to me about it (though not to each other) it might end up being more than a photoshoot.

How do I navigate this? I kinda feel like they both know something will happen but I’m staying detached, friendly and as far as the photoshoot, professional.

If we do end up in a threesome, I’m not good at spontaneous stuff. I like rules, knowing everyone’s boundaries beforehand, and I don’t want to damage any part of any relationship.

Any advice?"

maybe you're over thinking your over thinking the woman sounds a tad gullible to me but well done you....... photoshoot

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham

If you’re effectively just a friend doing friendly things, then it’s no biggy.

If you want more than that, which seems possible, it’s going to get very awkward if you haven’t discussed it with your partner beforehand. Awkward as in why the f did I do that awkward afterwards.

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By *heaspieswinger OP   Man  over a year ago

Peak District

Update:

Mr LHC here.

Said to my friend that my fiancée and I had an idea the we think she’d enjoy... It was to go to lunch...

But her first response was “Threesome?” I’ve said we could discuss why that was her first thought tomorrow, as Mrs LHC and I are having a day together.

Earlier, Mrs LHC and I were talking about the conversations my friend and I have been having. Mrs LHC said she felt a little insecure and jealous. After she told me this, I explained that there’s nothing going on, and she needn’t worry about that because why would I go elsewhere when we can play with people together?

I pointed of that I’d kept her in the loop fully about the conversations, and that she’d seen the conversations and the photos my friend had sent me to evaluate. I then reminded her that she’d had no objections about anything, and I mentioned a couple of the more explicit photos.

Her chest, neck and face became flushed (as it does when she gets turned on...) She grabbed my faced, kissed me deeply and passionately, and then reached for my cock and started stroking it.

Had to stop her because we had someone collecting something very shortly.

She later confessed that the thought did turn her on, and i again reassured her that was ok, that I’m with here regardless, and that if they both want to then we can explore it together.

This is a confusing and difficult time. Fortunately the lockdown gives us plenty of time to discuss her insecurities and slight jealousy and see why that is.

I’ve said I’m not looking for a threesome with our friend. I’m just trying to help her. That will always remain the case - but if they both jump on me one day I’m not refusing!!

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By *uliaChrisCouple  over a year ago

westerham

Not sure you’re going about this in the right way...

Assuring your partner there’s nothing going on and your not looking for a threesome when..... you are?

Just suggesting being a bit more straightforward about it. “ now you mention it, a threesome could be amazing” etc etc

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By *SAchickWoman  over a year ago

Hillside desolate

Will your fiancee see this thread and be annoyed that you didn't talk to her before posting the question here?

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By *heaspieswinger OP   Man  over a year ago

Peak District


"Will your fiancee see this thread and be annoyed that you didn't talk to her before posting the question here? "

Mr LHC here.

She checks this thread regularly - we both have access to and use our account She knew I was going to ask for advice on here before I did so.

Anywho, we talked for about three hours yesterday. She admitted that the idea of me talking to our friend (they’re friends now and have arranged to meet up once the plague has gone ) without her around, and then her catching up on the conversation later, was arousing for her. Though she’s not sure why.

Just to clarify - I’m asking for advice here because they both seem to want to explore a threesome when we meet up, but I wanted advice on how to make sure they’re ok.

Our friend thought we were going to ask for a threesome (which we were not) and last night Mrs LHC fantasied about one while we were in bed

I just don’t want anybody to get hurt

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By *ykmwyldTV/TS  over a year ago

Belpre

Definitely keep discussing this with your wife. I think your wife really wants to be with her too, so this could turn into a very pleasurable situation for all of you. Good Luck ; )

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By *entleman JayMan  over a year ago

Wakefield


"Mr HLC here...

Incoming wall of text

I’ve recently reconnected with an old friend on FB. Didn’t think much of it until a few messages in. She was telling me about her abusive ex, and a guy that was messing her around.

The conversation got into how she hasn’t been able to explore her sexuality because of him. She’s since told me about her experiences with a couple who she was friends with.

For the last few days, we’ve discussing sex and I’ve been helping her read up on different kinks, and introduced her to the term ‘unicorn’ (which she was very excited about!) Since then she’s signed up on here (no, I’m not pointing her out to you )

From being on FAB I’ve helped her with her profile; how to recognise fakes; etc. She’s sent me some intimate photos for some advice on what’s good for here (only a handful of them are any good.) I’ve said that when the plague has gone, she can come to ours, I’ll set my studio up and take some FAB suitable photos for her.

Her and I had one enjoyable evening together many many years ago, so we already know each other intimately.

Mrs HLC has been fully aware of everything throughout, has seen the photos and will be there at the photoshoot. They’re also friends on FB. She has read all of the messages and has no issues at all.

Here’s the thing:

I’m feeling a little weird about this.

My natural instinct is “Why isn’t Mrs HLC bothered about this at all?” After all, I’m having intimate discussions with someone I’ve slept with, while Mrs HLC isn’t involved.

The photos she sent were of poor quality but, well, arousing. Very arousing.

The photoshoot will be very intimate, with some explicit photos. The way they’re both talking to me about it (though not to each other) it might end up being more than a photoshoot.

How do I navigate this? I kinda feel like they both know something will happen but I’m staying detached, friendly and as far as the photoshoot, professional.

If we do end up in a threesome, I’m not good at spontaneous stuff. I like rules, knowing everyone’s boundaries beforehand, and I don’t want to damage any part of any relationship.

Any advice?"

Jesus. That escalated quickly! Lol.

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By *heaspieswinger OP   Man  over a year ago

Peak District


"Jesus. That escalated quickly! Lol. "

Yeah. Seems to have moved very quickly from reconnecting with an old friend, to my fiancée being stressed and saying stuff that she didn’t really feel (jealous and insecure.)

She fantasied about it - out loud - in bed the other day

All a bit of a confusing shock to my system tbh.

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By *ommenhimCouple  over a year ago

wigan


"Jesus. That escalated quickly! Lol.

Yeah. Seems to have moved very quickly from reconnecting with an old friend, to my fiancée being stressed and saying stuff that she didn’t really feel (jealous and insecure.)

She fantasied about it - out loud - in bed the other day

All a bit of a confusing shock to my system tbh."

Why were the photos she sent you poor quality? Was it their composition, lighting, poses?

You know that ‘Mr HLC’ would be more appropriate than Mr LHC considering your user name?

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"

Here’s the thing:

I’m feeling a little weird about this.

My natural instinct is “Why isn’t Mrs HLC bothered about this at all?” After all, I’m having intimate discussions with someone I’ve slept with, while Mrs HLC isn’t involved.

"

Either she fully trusts you, or she isn’t bothered if you sleep with other women.

Maybe she wants you too, maybe she wants to sleep with other guys privately and so she’s allowing you to get close to and sleep with other women.

Why not just ask her and sort it out before talking anymore to the FB ex

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By *heaspieswinger OP   Man  over a year ago

Peak District


"Why were the photos she sent you poor quality? Was it their composition, lighting, poses?

You know that ‘Mr HLC’ would be more appropriate than Mr LHC considering your user name? "

The photos were taken using the front facing (selfie) camera on her iPhone 6. Mostly in a dark bedroom. It’s a mixture of composition, lighting and poses. They don’t really do her justice

As for Mr LHC lol - it’s has been Mr HLC most of the time. I must have been half asleep

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By *heaspieswinger OP   Man  over a year ago

Peak District


"Either she fully trusts you, or she isn’t bothered if you sleep with other women.

Maybe she wants you too, maybe she wants to sleep with other guys privately and so she’s allowing you to get close to and sleep with other women.

Why not just ask her and sort it out before talking anymore to the FB ex "

When I say “not involved” I mean that Mrs is not part of the conversation at the time of it happening. She’s aware of the conversations though, and I hand her my phone in the morning while I’m having a shower so she can catch up with it She’s said she’s comfortable with all of the conversations.

Well, we’ve already had a few MFM threesomes, and swapped with couples over the years too. So she has never previously had an issue with me being with other women.

Our friend isn’t an ex. Yes, we had one night together about 13 years ago, but it was just horny friends helping each other (And they’re both friends too now, through knowing me )

She’s made it clear over the past week that it’s something that really turns her on, and she’s wanted a threesome with me and another woman for longer than I have! She reads the forum (though rarely participates) so she’s up to speed.

As soon as Mrs has time when she’s not working, I am going to sit down and talk to her about this. She’s just working so much we don’t have any time together really. We do sext regularly about it while she’s at work though...

We’ll see I guess

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By *adMerWoman  over a year ago

Sandwich

Actually I have to say that from what you have said you are doing your very best to act as a supportive husband in an open and honest relationship.

Yes I get that you are hopeful that an mff does come from it, but as this is most str8 and bi males top fantasy I don’t blame you for the wishful thinking. You seem to be doing your utmost not to pressure either of the ladies, which will probably make it way more likely to happen plus be something no one regrets.

Well done!

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By *heaspieswinger OP   Man  over a year ago

Peak District


"Actually I have to say that from what you have said you are doing your very best to act as a supportive husband in an open and honest relationship.

Yes I get that you are hopeful that an mff does come from it, but as this is most str8 and bi males top fantasy I don’t blame you for the wishful thinking. You seem to be doing your utmost not to pressure either of the ladies, which will probably make it way more likely to happen plus be something no one regrets.

Well done!"

Well, I’m trying my best

It’s been a confusing week or so for me. Mrs HLC and I are taking some time to talk tomorrow about the past week.

This is more important since she’s been sexting me about a threesome with said friend, and that said friend has - quite out of nowhere - mentioned being worried she’d not be as good at a blowjob as Mrs HLC.

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