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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Sorry about the spelling ??
I join fab, fill out my profile, pictures done! Now letting start hunting, wow so many great picture and profile, omg is that who I think it is???? Wow what do I do, what is my moms friend doing on here? Omg she better not tell my mom I’m here, I can’t help but checking out her picture, wow she looking stunning! She really hide it well! My Message box light up I’ve got a message, wow I just joined who could it be!
“OMG we both have a naughty little secret!
My heart it beating so fast! I’ve joined a swinger site and now I’m getting super excited about my moms friend!
I messaged back “ please please don’t tell my mom”
She reply’s “ let’s hope you don’t find her on here” my mind goes into over drive!what is my mom on here? Is she playing me up? What the fuck is my mom doing on here? Surely not? What would my dad say? Are they on here together? Please no!
I get a message again I’m joking! I won’t tell her tho if you do as you are told!
Wow I’ve never seen this side to her, I love it but what does she mean tho?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Good start |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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do as I told???? What does that mean? Wow it exciting, I have to find out! I reply “do what I’m told? What do you mean? Sound very exciting!
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Let’s start of with a little game? Do you want to play?
Can feel the excitement in my body! Wow she has me and I’ve never really noticed what a body and how pretty she was!
I reply “Yes please what do I do? Where do we start”
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Ok I going to give you some task and you have to do as you are told?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Ok where do I sign? Omg I can’t wait for her to reply her now, can feel how turn on this is making me!
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Are you ready to do as you are told? First of I want you to send me a picture that I think you may like?
OMG I Chatting to my moms friend and she is asking me to send her a picture, what do I do and where do I start? I can’t send a naked picture can I? It’s my moms friend ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I’m going to play it safe, nice face picture to start off, I mean it is my moms Friday after all!
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Boring! I seen that loads of time and you need to do better if you want to be rewarded
O fuck, she didn’t like it, I need to get her back and I really want to make her get excited like she is making me?
Fuck it, full on naked and hard
O shit what have I do? I’ve just sent my moms friend a Naked dick picture! I’m so dead! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Keep it going |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Sorry
Naked dick picture, what have I done? I’ve just send it to my moms friend! I’m so dead
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That’s much better and I can see we are going to have loads of fun!
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Do I get one back?
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Picture! Wow what more is there to say! I want her so bad!
We carry on message for a bit and we start to flirt a little and I’m getting so excited by all this I’m so turn on!
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Right for us to carry on I need to see if you are going to do as you are told!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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More |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Keep going |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Now I can see that you are a little bit naughty, but I need to see how committed you are to me? This will show me how that you will do anything for me?
Wow my heart it almost poping out my chest! Wow it is so wrong but I can’t help it, I want it and want her so bad!
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I want you so go to your moms room and find out her Sexy underwear, I want you to put it on for me and you to send me a picture so I no you are ready to do as you are told |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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No way you are joking! You are just playing me?
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Ok let’s forget it and have fun in fab!
No way! I want her so bad, I’m just going to have to do it, I have it what she wants
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Wait, please I so want to chat on
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You have to do as you are told
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Lucky my mom and dad are out! I go into there room where would she keep them? I find a box under the bed, wow my mom is bad as me, that’s where it come from!
I find a very sexy black set, stocking and everything, Wow am I really going to do this, I start to slowly put them on! Keep worrying that someone is going to come back, I’m surprised I actually feel pretty sexy in them! I take the picture
Fuck I’m not sure I can do this, I’m about to send a picture of me to my moms friend in my mom Sexy underwear |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Don’t stop |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I send it,
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O wow you good boy! Don’t you really look sexy in it!
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You dare show that anyone one!
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Unfortunately you really do have to do as you are told now as it going on Facebook if not
Omg I’m fucked what have I do? No she wouldn’t would she? I’m in a right mess but still pretty turn i at the same time!
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Ready for the next part of the game |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Now you must do as you are told? I want you to go get your mom lick stick and get naked again, i want you to write all over you body? That I you will do as you are told and I you will become my fuck toy!
Wow This is so wrong! But I’m addicted, I have to do as I’m told or the world will see my in my moms underwear! I no i secretly fuck but I can’t believe I love how much power she has over me |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Done, but this is my last one! I can’t believe you are doing this to me!
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Good boy! If you keep being a good boy you have nothing to worry about! Your not over for today tho!
What I’ve told her I’m not doing no more, I’m not and I won’t what is she going to do! O shit I’m fucked I you she got that over me
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Right now I no what a naughty boy you have been and you like being naughty do you?
I want you to go back into your mom and find her black box’s, that’s the one we take anyway our girly weekend if you didn’t know! Once you have the box I want you to message me again |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Horny as fuck now |
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over a year ago
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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What am I doing, I’ve never done anything like this and what if my mom finds out I’ve been going in her room, I have to thi, she got me pictures!
I take the box into my phone And message her!
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Now fuck toy! I want you to record this and if I don’t get a video in 5 minutes I’m showing your dad what you have been sending me!
Take out the the pink bag! Open it up and pullout what is inside it
Wow I no I’m fuck but I love her controlling me and I do as I’m told, I’m so hard and have so much Pre cum xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I open the bag to find a pretty big dildo! What do I need that for I ask,
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You must record yourself sucking it and saying you love the taste of it! 5 minutes and counting |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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No way I’m not doing that it my moms toys and it been inside her and it would be wrong! I replied
My phone starts to ring! Shit it’s dad dildo in one hand and phone in my other, I have to answer what if she sent it, I my fucked, I decided I have to answer!
Hey dad! Everything ok? Yes all good I’ve just got a phone call of your moms friend! My heart sinks! I’m thinking I’m fucked could you press record on something it going to start in 3 mins and I won’t want to miss it he say!
Few but I’ve got to do as I’m told and I only have 3 mins xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Loving it |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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As if I’m doing this, but deep down I really loving the control she has over me, video sent!
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O wow you really are a good boy! I’m glad you have enjoyed that as much as me and your mom have over the years!
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Picture sent! Wow it been fully inside her! Now I can’t help but giving my cock a little rub!
Wow what I Day this has been so far, I’ve joined a sex site, messaged my mom friend, sent her a nude, then in moms underwear, then sucking off her toy x
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Good story but my brains hurting trying to read it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Good story but my brains hurting trying to read it"
Yeah mine too |
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"Good story but my brains hurting trying to read it
Yeah mine too"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Yes sorry about the brain hurting! I’m having the same problem writing it. ??
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Are you ready to take this to the next level?
“Wow the next level! what does she mean? Surely I have done enough! I reply
“I was born ready!” Trying to play it cool and thinking I have some control
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I want you to book a hotel room for us to stay in ! You will book it in my name and you will meet me there but only when I tell you I’m ready for you! Now as you no I’m a very classy lady and I expect the very best so make sure it is not your average travel lodge and make sure you are trying to degrade your master!
Omg god is this really happening I’m meeting my moms friend in a hotel room and by the sound of it she is now my master!!!! O shit where am I going to book and o fuck I don’t have the money for somewhere like that?
What am I going to do????
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Mmmm so I’m having a little problem with the room? Would you be able to pay half?
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Do you like to upset your master? Do you not think a master should be treated like the queen? Whats your mom and dad going to say when they see your pictures and video?
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I’m really sorry master! I want to treat you like the queen! Please dont share it with anyone let alone my mom and dad? There musr be some other way!
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You have 5 minutes and if it is not booked they see the lot! I may be your master by I shouldn’t have to tell you everything! Use your mom credit card fuck boy!
“ wow I really am fucked! I can’t just steal off my mom and dad. What will they do if they find out? I have to tho as I’m fucked if not! Omg it’s booked I hope she like it? £300 for one night!
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Hope this one is ok? It in your name and I’ve booked it for Friday?
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You have done well fuck boy but you must never question your master again tho ! You have lots of making up to do. I will message you in friday with a time, make sure you are not late!
O wow my cock is already so hard just thinking about her? What do I wear? I hope she like me and I don’t let her down
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Don’t forget to bring your moms black box!
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By (user no longer on site)
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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What my moms toy box? How will I get that there? What if she noticed that is is missing?
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Yes I want the box and the rest is your problem fuck boy! Make sure you don’t look at what is in side tho
Wow this is so exciting, what does she want that box for? Maybe I will get to watch with my moms toy! I can now feel how much Precum this is making me have and I’m so hard! I’m not going to last 5 minute for her! What else is in that box tho? Mmmmm |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Friday comes and the master has not been in touch since I’ve booked? What going on? Has she chicken out? I really miss talking to her! Omg i I really want her!
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8 o’clock, room 403 don’t forget the bag my fuck boy! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Bit of a struggle but could be interesting |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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More |
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By (user no longer on site)
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Very hot |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Wow my heart is beating as I approach the door, i bricking it if I’m honest, all ready so hard and horny! She open the door to me! Wow what more is there to say! She look stunning, black stocking and Susdpender! I’m sure my mouth is open with all the excitement! I enter the room and pretty much jump on her kissing and putting my hands all over her body! She push me against the wall tho and telling me to keep my hands off and she strips me down completely naked!
Wow I have so many things going though my head right now! I’m fully naked in a hotel that my mom had pay for with her friend!
She push me on to the four poster bed! Wow I love how controlling she is with me, I try and keep touching her but she is haven’t none of it and keeps pushing my hands away! She then bites the bottom of my ear and says I hope you are ready!! X |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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mmmmmmm |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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She pushes my arms to each corner of the bed! Handcruffs are Waiting, to locks me down and start to tease me all over xx |
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By *r 007Man
over a year ago
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i like the sound of your mistress |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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O wow she is teasing me all over, i then hear the zip on the bag open! Wow what is coming next x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I’m naked, blindfolded and she is now getting something out of my moms bag! Wow it feel cold as it slowly works it way around my body! I loving it as it moves around it is then push fully into my mouth! I’m pretty sure it my moms Vibrator but I don’t care I’m so turn I start to suck it! My master starts tell me what a good fuck boy I am being!
I then hear her mess in my moms bag again what is it this time x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Next think I no she is tell me to get on all fours and she then handcuffed my feet as well! I’m completely her now to do as she pleases! She then start spanking me, nothing to hard but enough to no that is my master! Again she get my mom Vibrator and makes me suck it again! She is spanking my ass but catching my balls at the same time! I’m so turn on and I will do as I’m told x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Carry on ignore the snipers it's more than good enough to read
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Very horny |
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Certainly an interesting start to Fab!!
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By *ent73Man
over a year ago
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Wow i was loving every minute of it. I had never done anything like this at all before, i had been lucky enough to get with a few women over the time but most of them seem to be abit like a John smiths cardboard cut outs! She already had me hook, I was telling her and asking for more!
I could hear the bag open again, I wish she would feel how hard this was making me, I hear a little pop, o man what could it be? I can feel her getting closer to me, I’m still on all four, she asks me if I’m ready, she then glad my cock, o wow her hand is so wet and cold, I’m still trying to work out what coming next as she slowly moves it hand up and down on it! wow she really is lubeing my cock up and I struggling to stay still ! She then start to tell me I had better not cum yet! She slowly start to tease my ball I then hear the little pop again, wow what is she put on my ass it,feels to wet and cold! But I’m super excited at the same time! Mmmmmmmm |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Like I have said before I’ve never done anything like this before and being a bit of the jack the lad! I’ve always been like I would never let anyone near there! But OMG I’m so turn on and she has me at the point where I feel like she can do want she want to me! She then start to tell me what a good boy I’m being and to relax as she can see how much I’m going to enjoy this, then she just goes for it and my mom toys is slowly rubbing around my ass and I’m loving it and begin to want her to push more |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Omg what am I doing? I start to tell her” no must ever no about this” i have no idea what was happening! i try and tell myself it so wrong but I can’t help it and I want it more I could feel my body trying it hardest to push back! O you are a naughty boy! As she enter the tip!
Mmmm that feels so good! It’s so wrong tho!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Carry on or is this done??? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Carry on |
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By *icky001Man
over a year ago
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"I’m naked, blindfolded and she is now getting something out of my moms bag! Wow it feel cold as it slowly works it way around my body! I loving it as it moves around it is then push fully into my mouth! I’m pretty sure it my moms Vibrator but I don’t care I’m so turn I start to suck it! My master starts tell me what a good fuck boy I am being!
I then hear her mess in my moms bag again what is it this time x"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Mmm wow this feels amazing, I’m loving every moment of it, she starts to put more lube on and she is pushing it in deep and harder, it feel so good! She suddenly stops and but she leave it in, i hear the bag open again, she tell me again that she hopes I’m ready and but this time you can hear how much excitement is in her voice x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I feel her take it out off me but I’m begging her not to stop! I feel something starting to get close to me again, this time is being pushed with more force! I soon realised she had a strap on and it about to fuck me with it!
Wow my mind is going crazy, what going on? This is so wrong, I shouldn’t be enjoying this, what has my mom got a strap on for? X |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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She is now ducking me fast and hard! My ass is loving it tho! She had me under control and I will do whatever I’m told xx |
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Sounds like your mother enjoys some naughty fun too but with who - that's the question?
Your mothers friend knows the score!!
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Wow I’m loving it, i was thinking I would hate having someone tease and play with my ass but how wrong was I! It was by far the best experience of sex i had every had! I just didn’t want it to end! She carry on fucking me changing from slow and soft to hard and fast! She then started to rack me off as was doing it. It was Was starting to get way to much I couldn’t take no more, OMG I shot my loads everywhere and i came so hard and there was so much! All I could here her say was what a good boy you are! She then started to rub her hands all over my face and in my mouth, she was telling me to clean her up and to taste my own cum! There wasn’t much I could really apart from carry on being that good boy!
She then pop a little pill in my mouth as said that will help with round two! Mmmmm |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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O wow! I say are you going to untie me and let me tease you now?can I take the blindfolded off? She doesn’t say a word and I just hear the door open and close! What the fucking is going on I think? What is she doing? Has she left me naked,blindfolded and handcuffed to the bed! I’m started to get a little scared with what is going on? Xx |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Fuck.fuck.fuck what am I going to do! I trying so hard and doing my best to get out but there nothing I can do. I lie there, to what feel like a life time. Before I here the door open again! I start to shout what THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING! Please just let me out and let me leave? She started to laugh, shut up fuck boy and you would you of been useless over the last hour, so shut the fuck up! I’m sure I then hear a voice say don’t be so hard on him! What is someone now with her I think? What the fuck are they doing here? What the fuck athet going to do to me xx |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I then start to here them moving around, I can tell they are all over each other! Wow what are they doing ? Who is there? It’s so exciting! I could hear them stripping off and wow it really turnIng me on! They then both come over to me and slowly start to kiss and move around my body! I’m then turn back over but handcuffed back down! I’m keep begging her to let me see who is there? But she just say wait and see! She then sit on my face and she tell me to lick her clean as this is going on, I can feel someone slow start to kiss my cock and slow suck me off! Wow they are so good and making me so hard again x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Horny as fuck reading this . More needed |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Wow they are so good a sucking my cock I’m loving it, I trying my best to lick her out as she face fucks me! She then get off and start to suck me off as well! Omg it’s amazing I was thinking wow I’m getting sucked off my two women! She then decide to sit on my cock and fuck me! Wow this is amazing and I can hear how much she is enjoying it as well, as she does I can feel my ball start to get licked and teased again, my mom friend is fucking my and her friend is licking my ball and her clit at the same time! Wow I’m so turn on, wow I then feel and hear her moan as she cum all over me! She then Jump off and starts suck me off again, i then start to her a little slap off her ass As she is getting Fucked! O wow this is amazing! More strap on fun I’m thinking |
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Oh I can't wait to hear it's his mum in the room with them nice |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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O wow I hear a them getting fast and fast! She is loving it and then you here then Then both let out a wow! She soon jump up and sit back on my face, riding me it fast now, but it seem so different and taste so different now! Im really enjoy it tho and so it she! She start to say that it fuck boy you clean it up, you taste that cum! What did she just say???? As it run in to my mouth!!!! X |
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I found my mom's friend in a swingers club |
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By *r 007Man
over a year ago
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"I found my mom's friend in a swingers club "
how did that play out |
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