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By *exy_Disco OP Man 9 weeks ago

Bicester

Anyone see the article in the Sun about swinging in PDI? 😁

Inside world’s ‘swinging capital’ where 40-women orgies take over clubs and couples romp in sand dunes near nude beach

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/31158998/gran-canaria-nude-beach-swinging-orgies-sex/

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By *loke1Man 9 weeks ago

alicante

Nobody sentient would read the S*n

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By *exy_Disco OP Man 9 weeks ago

Bicester

"Nobody sentient would read the S*n"

It’s actually a pretty accurate depiction….other than claiming it’s becoming the swingers capital, that crown clearly belongs to Cap.

But you just stick to to the broadsheets and enjoy 🤷🏼‍♂️

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By *lumb and crumbCouple 9 weeks ago

oxfordshire.

A lot of unhappy people on the what’s app group.

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By *exy_Disco OP Man 9 weeks ago

Bicester

"A lot of unhappy people on the what’s app group. "

Unhappy why?

I guess some vanilla friends may now suspect why their friends go to PDI so often 😂

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By *ineapplePairCouple 9 weeks ago

Cheshire

I can completely see why, not a good look on the swingathon festival.

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By *exy_Disco OP Man 9 weeks ago

Bicester

"I can completely see why, not a good look on the swingathon festival. "

I get that, inviting the press along…good for publicity…but definitely not good for privacy.

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By *ncubussuccubusCouple 9 weeks ago

Witney

Amazingly, given the 'newspaper', it's pretty accurate... Not ready the comments yet but if past articles on swinging are anything to go on, most of the public really don't care... Ie it's a boring non-story.

As for Swingathon... Hmmm certainly would make us think twice about attending again.... Not exactly paragons of discretion it seems..

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By *uperman n LoisCouple 9 weeks ago

Gran Canaria

Absolutely fame hungry idiots!!!

We met these couples in a meeting bar the night that photo was taken…. So close to been exposed!

The one thing that unites the swinging scene is Discretion !!!! To expose a destination that is so popular just to promote themselves is unbelievable….

I’d probably guess that they’ve done more damage than good to promote there parties….

If I had a club I’d ban them too

selfish prat’s !!

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By *ugh LibidoMan 9 weeks ago

Penton/Spain

Won’t go near The S*n

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By *ara DosCouple 9 weeks ago

Here, There, Everywhere

Bizarrely it may have the reverse effect on what they were hoping to achieve

They will have to let the dust settle and pick up what remains of their business. Always aware that mud sticks and people do not forget betrayal

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By *etWetWet453Couple 9 weeks ago

CAMBERLEY

"A lot of unhappy people on the what’s app group.

Unhappy why?

I guess some vanilla friends may now suspect why their friends go to PDI so often 😂"

For exactly that reason. It`s not amusing. It could have massive consequences with family, friends, employers and employees.

It may be very accurate and that is exactly the problem. Too much information and detail. It doesn`t take a genius to join up the dots.

What kind of idiot thinks it is ok to invite the press in, especially the Scum. They have their own agenda, and it is not to show us in a good light. They did it for purely financial reasons - to promote their business.

First rule of swinging ......... You certainly don`t blab about it to the press. FFS. Most of us are mature enough not to brag about our lifestyle, and prefer to keep it private.

So if you can`t see why people are unhappy about it, then you are part of the problem.

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By *ara DosCouple 9 weeks ago

Here, There, Everywhere

I wonder what the Gran Cañarían tourism department take on it is????

It’s rather liable saying it’s The Swinging capital. And can be deemed by many as a very derogatory statement

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By *I TwoCouple 9 weeks ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

And I thought it was all about pineapples in shopping trolleys in Lidl last week

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By *art1968Man 9 weeks ago

stafford

I just think it will put so many off, I would think twice about the possibilities of my identity being in the press for that!!!

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By *ara DosCouple 9 weeks ago

Here, There, Everywhere

"And I thought it was all about pineapples in shopping trolleys in Lidl last week"

Asking for a friend

What Lidl is this ??

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By *exy_Disco OP Man 9 weeks ago

Bicester

"A lot of unhappy people on the what’s app group.

Unhappy why?

I guess some vanilla friends may now suspect why their friends go to PDI so often 😂

For exactly that reason. It`s not amusing. It could have massive consequences with family, friends, employers and employees.

It may be very accurate and that is exactly the problem. Too much information and detail. It doesn`t take a genius to join up the dots.

First rule of swinging ......... You certainly don`t blab about it to the press. FFS. Most of us are mature enough not to brag about our lifestyle, and prefer to keep it private.

So if you can`t see why people are unhappy about it, then you are part of the problem."

I didn’t say I didn’t see why, I asked what the reasons on the group were. To see if they matched my own reaction.

My first thought was as I put. We go to PDI at least 2/3 times a year, if any of our friends read that article I’m sure they would put 2 and 2 together and at the least be a tiny bit suspicious. And I laughed for two reasons, they’ll never actually know for sure, and if they did a few would probably be a bit jealous in reality 😂

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By *etWetWet453Couple 9 weeks ago

CAMBERLEY

"A lot of unhappy people on the what’s app group.

Unhappy why?

I guess some vanilla friends may now suspect why their friends go to PDI so often 😂

For exactly that reason. It`s not amusing. It could have massive consequences with family, friends, employers and employees.

It may be very accurate and that is exactly the problem. Too much information and detail. It doesn`t take a genius to join up the dots.

First rule of swinging ......... You certainly don`t blab about it to the press. FFS. Most of us are mature enough not to brag about our lifestyle, and prefer to keep it private.

So if you can`t see why people are unhappy about it, then you are part of the problem.

I didn’t say I didn’t see why, I asked what the reasons on the group were. To see if they matched my own reaction.

Apologies.

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By *inojCouple 9 weeks ago

Manchester

Luckily no one I know or care about, reads that scumbag rag or its website !!

Whoppers !!

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

I think it has and is going to have the exact opposite reaction to the outside world than they intended. I am very disappointed they showed the venues and gave so much information out. For me it goes against what 95% of the swinging community want which is discretion.

I am even more disappointed in plan b for letting them film inside and outside. Has soured what was a really positive experience I think everyone was having there. I hope they did not agree to it and take action tbh.

From speaking to other people they reminded me of the lib elite documentary and how things changed after that. This is on a bigger scale.

Can see lots of people who are newbies now thinking it is just a free for all.

One of the best things about pdi is that it generally is people who are experienced and you have less twats.

I know this was done with good intentions, certainly from one of the couples side but I think there has been a real lack of understanding of the consequences of there actions but also a lack of understanding of us as a community as a whole.

Promote their event is fine. Putting other people’s privacy at risk is another. Don’t take much to put 2 and 2 together. Their event is not even in pdi. It is an absolute joke tbh.

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

It is more the YouTube documentary that is the problem

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By *osweet69Couple 9 weeks ago

portsmouth

What a bunch of self promoting self centred idiots.Thats GC off our holiday destination for next year.Well done guys f**king morons.Swingers with no class.

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman 9 weeks ago

tf1

They are selfish and have given no thought to the consequences of their actions.

I don’t want to explain to people why I go to PDI. The ethos of swinging is being discrete and it seems these lots forgot that.

And I don’t think they care - that’s the worse of it. They haven’t taken on board any criticism just defend themselves.

I hope it ruins their business

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By *osweet69Couple 9 weeks ago

portsmouth

"They are selfish and have given no thought to the consequences of their actions.

I don’t want to explain to people why I go to PDI. The ethos of swinging is being discrete and it seems these lots forgot that.

And I don’t think they care - that’s the worse of it. They haven’t taken on board any criticism just defend themselves.

I hope it ruins their business "
We hope people will boycott the Adam and Eve Club and the Swingaton Festival.

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman 9 weeks ago

tf1

"They are selfish and have given no thought to the consequences of their actions.

I don’t want to explain to people why I go to PDI. The ethos of swinging is being discrete and it seems these lots forgot that.

And I don’t think they care - that’s the worse of it. They haven’t taken on board any criticism just defend themselves.

I hope it ruins their business We hope people will boycott the Adam and Eve Club and the Swingaton Festival. "

Well i would never have gone to swingathon anyway because I know they court the press.

But I wonder how much this will backfire on them.

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By *exy_Disco OP Man 9 weeks ago

Bicester

"They are selfish and have given no thought to the consequences of their actions.

I don’t want to explain to people why I go to PDI. The ethos of swinging is being discrete and it seems these lots forgot that.

And I don’t think they care - that’s the worse of it. They haven’t taken on board any criticism just defend themselves.

I hope it ruins their business We hope people will boycott the Adam and Eve Club and the Swingaton Festival. "

I wouldn’t go as strong as that, they’re running a business at the end of the day, which is never easy.

They make their choices how they run it and people will decide whether or not they want to be a part of it.

Plenty won’t mind, plenty will.

To be honest I think swinging is much more open amongst some younger people nowadays anyway.

It’s definitely more acceptable and talked about than it was 20 years ago.

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By *ady Penny Morgan SpiceCouple 9 weeks ago

a place near you........

"It is more the YouTube documentary that is the problem"
Thank you and everyone who was in PDI on the same dates who values discretion should watch the video absolutely shocking and although faces are blanked out they still have the unedited version they should be banned from advertising on fab! Discretion level of zero!

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

It is not the people within the scene that it is an issue with. If people want to be open that’s up to them. But putting venues out there could and will affect others who want to keep it discreet.

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By *rong and RightCouple 9 weeks ago

green, green grass of home

"It is more the YouTube documentary that is the problemThank you and everyone who was in PDI on the same dates who values discretion should watch the video absolutely shocking and although faces are blanked out they still have the unedited version they should be banned from advertising on fab! Discretion level of zero!"

Is there a link for the YouTube video please?

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By *nlyway is EssexCouple 9 weeks ago

canvey Island

The biggest enemy of the lifestyle is investigative journalism & The Sun is right up there with the worst, just check the libel cases in the High Court! We know they are there but always on the outside looking in, now these idiots have let in a Trojan Horse to Pdi. Was it just absolute naivety or all about the money & promoting their own businesses? Whatever the reason, they have definitely shot themselves in the foot with this one!

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By *he only Essex coupleCouple 9 weeks ago

Essex

So who notified the news paper?.

I guess they are on fab .If so

Has anyone messaged them ?

They must be as thick as s☆☆t !!!

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman 9 weeks ago

tf1

"So who notified the news paper?.

I guess they are on fab .If so

Has anyone messaged them ?

They must be as thick as s☆☆t !!!

It’s the organisers of swingathon. They go to loads of events to promote their weekends/ business.

As far as I heard they have defended themselves and don’t see the issue.

Yes they are on fab.

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By *anifestoMan 9 weeks ago

Don't buy the s*n

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By *exy_Disco OP Man 9 weeks ago

Bicester

"Don't buy the s*n"

Definitely not, it’s free online

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

The press were going out there to do a story anyway. They have been the last few years but people don't seem to realise that. They contacted various people asking if they wanted to give their experiences. The venues were going to be featured regardless. Those happy to be shown were so no issues. Better to have those willing to be featured in the spotlight than expose people who want to remain hidden which has happened at so many other events. Apart from inside the clubs which is strictly no cameras it is all public areas at a lot of the bars there so they could have just posted Un blurred pics. The sun sexpert is in the lifestyle herself and wanting to actually educate and change outdated prejudice against swingers. Luckily on socials and with the younger crowd there seems to be so much positivity...not being ageist in any way but it seems to be predominantly the more mature people that have taken such an issue with people trying to get factual accounts out rather than just made up news xx

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By *lltheboostCouple 9 weeks ago

Shefford

"So who notified the news paper?.

I guess they are on fab .If so

Has anyone messaged them ?

They must be as thick as s☆☆t !!!

It’s the organisers of swingathon. They go to loads of events to promote their weekends/ business.

As far as I heard they have defended themselves and don’t see the issue.

Yes they are on fab. "

Because they are out to make money. That’s it.

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

They aren't on fab and a lot of what you have posted is incorrect, bad enough swingers being prejudiced against in society without other swingers spreading false information.

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By *exy_Disco OP Man 9 weeks ago

Bicester

"The press were going out there to do a story anyway. They have been the last few years but people don't seem to realise that. They contacted various people asking if they wanted to give their experiences. The venues were going to be featured regardless. Those happy to be shown were so no issues. Better to have those willing to be featured in the spotlight than expose people who want to remain hidden which has happened at so many other events. Apart from inside the clubs which is strictly no cameras it is all public areas at a lot of the bars there so they could have just posted Un blurred pics. The sun sexpert is in the lifestyle herself and wanting to actually educate and change outdated prejudice against swingers. Luckily on socials and with the younger crowd there seems to be so much positivity...not being ageist in any way but it seems to be predominantly the more mature people that have taken such an issue with people trying to get factual accounts out rather than just made up news xx"

The Sun Sexpert is in the lifestyle?

Definitely wouldn’t object to bumping into her in a club. 🔥🔥🔥😍

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

She was in a couple while over there

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

Hummmm they was on fab and think they still are.

No it is not just the mature ones it is actually 95% if not more of the swinging community.

Pdi generally is not full of the younger crowd. And it is definitely just thinking about themselves.

And no the press have not been there the last few years. In fact this is the first time and it is no surprise that it is after they was also at swingafone in the summer.

People don’t care that they got filmed. It is what they reported in the YouTube video and showing all the venues. It is a total breach of trust.

Maybe the younger crowd need to understand the rules around swinging.

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By *lltheboostCouple 9 weeks ago

Shefford

"The biggest enemy of the lifestyle is investigative journalism & The Sun is right up there with the worst, just check the libel cases in the High Court! We know they are there but always on the outside looking in, now these idiots have let in a Trojan Horse to Pdi. Was it just absolute naivety or all about the money & promoting their own businesses? Whatever the reason, they have definitely shot themselves in the foot with this one!"

Perfectly put. It’s all about money for and exposure for them. And from what I can see they have made up/lied about a lot of what goes on.

And why are they filming inside clubs!?

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

You know 95% of the swinging community do you? Maybe 95% of your small circle. And there has been sun stories last few years. Just maybe only this one brought to your attention as people were in The PDI group. And the younger generation doesn't need to learn about swinging rules. Though I do apologise for your older generations making you all think that ethical non monogamy is something to be ashamed of and push you all into keeping secret. Along with interracial relationships and same sex it's tho older generations with prejudiced and bigoted views...We have moved on a long way and hopefully in future people who wish to partake in any form of consensual fun with whomever don't feel shameful and that they have to hide without fear of losing jobs or shunned by friends/family.

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

No filming in the clubs but in public bars. There is a difference x

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By *exy_Disco OP Man 9 weeks ago

Bicester

Like it or not the ‘younger crowd’ are the future of swinging, and the future of lifestyle businesses.

A lot of them do things differently to the ‘older’ crowd.

They think nothing of swiping right on an app and meeting a stranger for a one nighter, if you asked a group of young ‘vanillas’ how many of them had had a threesome, or tried a bi experience you’d probably be shocked at how many said yes, but weren’t swingers.

Even though the UK left Europe, the younger generation are definitely getting more ‘European’ in their attitude to sex and being open about it.

That’s got to be a good thing, your average Brit has been far too prudish for way too long 😂

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

And YES there has been stories the last 6 years. It's again incorrect Un factual saying first time the reporters have been, you sound like a sun reporter

They were going anyway, smarter heads knew that it was better to work with and at least give true stories to use rather than random peoples pictures used and made up stories. With lots of shows highlighting the lifestyle lots of swingers spots are on the radar. So if you none of the people who you are all quick to slag off are there to draw the focus away and smokescreen at the other venues then you may be some of the unwitting randoms for their future stories.. cap is highlighted xx

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

Wow you clearly don’t know me and I definitely have been round the scene a lot longer than you. I definitely don’t have a small circle. Think by the reaction on here that 95% is probably right.

One rule no matter if you’re open and out there or not is discretion. It is also about respect for others as we all have different reasons for doing this. Most don’t want the world to know. That should be respected.

Fact you don’t seem to see or understand why people are pissed off is very naive tbh. Not sure what you are classing as younger but if that counts us both in there I guess that’s the only positive from your reply.

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

95% ok then. Data from this post is it? As 1 person on all socials so more 98% from there. Again check the ages of most on this thread unhappy.

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By *lltheboostCouple 9 weeks ago

Shefford

It’s very arrogant to go broadcasting about the scene when it’s by its very nature a private thing, that people have gotten in to trouble for when found out.

It messes with people’s lives.

Maybe us “oldies” are just a bit more forward thinking and mature.

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

Check the ages of most of the community. Community is the key word. Nobody has asked them to speak for all. Again it just shows a total lack of respect for others.

We all know why they were there and that was swingathon. So please don’t think people are stupid.

If you wanna be instafamous for swinging that’s fine. Just don’t spoil things for everyone else.

That is the key point.

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

They are not that young lol

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

Publicity when positive helps bring those curious into the lifestyle too..have had lots of people visit clubs for first time after speaking to them about it..and not our local club/s so some of u may have actually benefited from it with some new people joining the lifestyle

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

Have been swinging for many years before swingathon including separately before we were a couple. And have been advocating swinging before attended a swingathon festival so not about instafamous at all, but all friends and family know we are in the lifestyle so don't mind if we are out there. As I said before better than them exposing people who aren't so lucky to be able to be as open xx

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

That video will promote the exact opposite than what it intends. You will have an influx of single guys who just looking for shag and not about the lifestyle thinking 40 girl orgys are normal for example. If it gets more press coverage then some who need this to remain private won’t run the risk.

It was just not thought out very well tbh. And like I said it is definitely a publicity stunt for their business. Well just keep it about there festival as we can make a decision if we want to go or not.

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

And have no plans to go to cap d'ag next year so hopefully someone else takes the spotlight when they start filming there. Good luck

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By *exy_Disco OP Man 9 weeks ago

Bicester

Let’s be honest there’s some good points all round here!

Let the people who don’t mind being in the paper be in it, and those who don’t then don’t have to be in it without a choice.

The businesses obviously didn’t mind.

There’s been news/articles on swingers clubs/holidays etc in the news forever. TV documentaries all sorts.

I personally would rather someone volunteer to be featured than be featured myself just because I happen to be there.

Will we (personally) still go to places like PDI and Cap and post photos on our vanilla socials now this article is doing the rounds, absolutely.

Will some of our friends be suspicious? Possibly.

The only way they’ll know for sure is if they bump into us there, and then we’re likely there for the same reason 🤷🏼‍♂️

(Happened once. True story 😂)

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

Be interesting to see who is out there when they do won’t it.

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By *exy_Disco OP Man 9 weeks ago

Bicester

"And have no plans to go to cap d'ag next year so hopefully someone else takes the spotlight when they start filming there. Good luck

Too late, flights already booked. See you in August maybe 🍍

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By *ubbsWoman 9 weeks ago

Southsea, Portsmouth

Actually squirrel speaking for people who have been on the scene as young and now older people, you are absolutely correct. We have been swinging many many years and a vast majority of swingers. It's about discretion, respect for boundaries of all and not an advert for yourselves. It's absolutely ridiculous that this article was done and the people who encourage it think they are speaking for the swinging community as a whole, when the vast majority did NOT want this exposure. It's a disservice to the many.

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

No issue if they want to be filmed. But it is more the video and talking about pdi. Showing the venues etc

Many do podcasts etc now anyway talking about the lifestyle. But how that was put out was just wrong.

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By *lltheboostCouple 9 weeks ago

Shefford

"Actually squirrel speaking for people who have been on the scene as young and now older people, you are absolutely correct. We have been swinging many many years and a vast majority of swingers. It's about discretion, respect for boundaries of all and not an advert for yourselves. It's absolutely ridiculous that this article was done and the people who encourage it think they are speaking for the swinging community as a whole, when the vast majority did NOT want this exposure. It's a disservice to the many. "

🙌🏻❤️

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

Whether people are happy or not there was going to be a feature done anyway they were out there to report on swingers clubs and venues in GC. Same as last few years. Anyone can Google and see them. A lot of people were asked and if they said no then respected and haven't seen anything to identify them. We personally spoke privately on a zoom call and was only about our personal experience. No one was identified or any filming of us done at any bar club while there by any reporters.

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

And people throwing around '95% of swingers' and the 'vast majority' is laughable. 73% of statistics are made up. 98% of our swinging contacts think the WhatsApp group for PDI is full of old....I will let u fill in the blanks as there is a variety been used xx

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

"And have no plans to go to cap d'ag next year so hopefully someone else takes the spotlight when they start filming there. Good luck

Too late, flights already booked. See you in August maybe 🍍

We will be in GC but not cap..they can just take random pictures of people there

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

You’re not going to convince anyone I am afraid. People are not stupid. We all know why they were there.

The swingathon website even says they are working with the sun. They have been for some time as they was at there festival in the summer.

You do seem to be missing the whole point why people are annoyed. If you can’t see it or understand it then just going to go round in circles.

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By *DI SocialsWoman 9 weeks ago

York

"Whether people are happy or not there was going to be a feature done anyway they were out there to report on swingers clubs and venues in GC. Same as last few years. Anyone can Google and see them. A lot of people were asked and if they said no then respected and haven't seen anything to identify them. We personally spoke privately on a zoom call and was only about our personal experience. No one was identified or any filming of us done at any bar club while there by any reporters."

Amd if they went there alone as previously done then again the information would again of been little to non

Yes they was invited and had there hands held into clubs amd bars

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By *exy_Disco OP Man 9 weeks ago

Bicester

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By *exy_Disco OP Man 9 weeks ago

Bicester

"And have no plans to go to cap d'ag next year so hopefully someone else takes the spotlight when they start filming there. Good luck

Too late, flights already booked. See you in August maybe 🍍

We’ll take masks just in case 😷

We will be in GC but not cap..they can just take random pictures of people there

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By *DI SocialsWoman 9 weeks ago

York

"And people throwing around '95% of swingers' and the 'vast majority' is laughable. 73% of statistics are made up. 98% of our swinging contacts think the WhatsApp group for PDI is full of old....I will let u fill in the blanks as there is a variety been used xx"

You was one of the old ......in the WhatsApp chat then

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By *exy_Disco OP Man 9 weeks ago

Bicester

Praise the lord I’m not in it 🤲

Does that officially mean I’m young? 😂

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

Fact you keep going back to that group says more about you than them.

But they are the people who do go pdi regularly. No thought was given to their views at all.

If I remember right in the video you said it was your first time out there. So how would you know if the press were there before? And what give you the right to slag off people who regularly go to a place which they feel there privacy has been compromised because of the actions of a few who want some publicity.

If I am old then so are you and age has absolutely nothing to do with this.

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By *etWetWet453Couple 9 weeks ago

CAMBERLEY

HEDONANDHELL

Your comments are patronising, condensing and arrogant.I have far more life experience and Swinging experience than you and can say unequivocally that the majority of swingers are of a certain demographic ie older.

Your attitude is naive and frankly your sorry justification is both insulting and immature.

To try and convince us that your motives were for anything other than financial gain by advertising your events is just laughable.

Have the good grace to accept that you have upset and betrayed a lot of people and stop keep trying to justify your disgraceful behaviour.

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

"HEDONANDHELL

Your attitude is naive and frankly your sorry justification is both insulting and immature.

To try and convince us that your motives were for anything other than financial gain by advertising your events is just laughable.

Have the good grace to accept that you have upset and betrayed a lot of people and stop keep trying to justify your disgraceful behaviour. "

Ok firstly we do not personally run any events or financially gain from swinging so get back in your box ..don't try to call me out on not knowing what I am talking about when you don't know us. What you've said is wrong straight away. And have older swingers who agree with us so don't say u speak for all when there is a handful of you in here mouthpiecing. And certain platforms will have those older demographic. Come over to the socials and see the other opinions. But sorry forget that you are probably one who can't be open about what you actually enjoy doing.

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

Oh and wet wet wet I'm sure u are one from the PDI WhatsApp group so again in the same circle already mentioned it's not 95% of the swinging community itmay seem like your whole world but it's a tiny group xx

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

Praise the lord I’m not in it 🤲

Does that officially mean I’m young? 😂"

Haha there are some in it that think the others are .......... too. And it seems to be that demographic. We are not ageist and some of our favourite people in the lifestyle are seasoned in age xx

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

"Fact you keep going back to that group says more about you than them.

But they are the people who do go pdi regularly. No thought was given to their views at all.

If I am old then so are you and age has absolutely nothing to do with this. "

Google and you can see the press has been there before..not hard is it

and have been told by plenty of others it's done every year.

And yes it's predominantly that demographic. I didn't say exclusively older people, some are cool about it and like to see things moving forward. Your comprehension skills leave a lot to be desired. But enjoy the rest of your evening as no point going over same points x

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

You was one of the old ......in the WhatsApp chat then "

We were added to it but mostly a lot older people in there and we differ a lot in opinion. I don't think many are left in there now after yesterday though haha. And one creepy old guy insinuating in sess we prefer the other PDI WhatsApp group and people not ashamed of who they are

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

Amd if they went there alone as previously done then again the information would again of been little to non

Yes they was invited and had there hands held into clubs amd bars

Is this based on fact or your opinion?. Were u there? Did u know the reporter is a swinger herself so knows of the well publicised bars?

A lot of opinion for someone who doesn't have the facts. Embarrassing all the people on here who make assumptions but incorrect... when they can just ask and people as I'm sure will give the correct information so at least it's an educated rant then. Holds more clout if factual xx

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By *G113Couple 9 weeks ago

Northumberland

“people not ashamed of who they are”

This isnt the way to view peoples discomfort here.

People may have judgmental bosses, colleagues, family, friends, neighbours. And now feel like they are one newspaper article away from someone questioning their holiday destinations, rumours circulating and so forth.

The swinging community relies on discretion as not everyone has the benefit of judgement free vanilla lives.

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

"“people not ashamed of who they are”

This isnt the way to view peoples discomfort here.

The swinging community relies on discretion as not everyone has the benefit of judgement free vanilla lives."

Masses of people got to GC and don't swing. They will all laugh it off. It's been in the news every year. It's not a surprise. Just you have been shown this one. If u hadn't have been highlighted this then you wouldn't even be giving a second thought now. It's touted every year as a swinger destination. Maybe just do as all of the other non swinging tourists do and deny it.

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By *DI SocialsWoman 9 weeks ago

York

You was one of the old ......in the WhatsApp chat then

Again your wrong . With over 136 members as of now. A huge diverse range within it too

Again you insinuate your loud opinions and biased remarks . No wonder I removed you off the group chat

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

You was one of the old ......in the WhatsApp chat then

Again your wrong . With over 136 members as of now. A huge diverse range within it too

Again you insinuate your loud opinions and biased remarks . No wonder I removed you off the group chat "

Huge diverse range but with average age of 69 you mean.. and some in there still think u are all ...... so not 136 who agree with you. And u are all biased, ashamed of what you enjoy doing. Thing is I am open so nothing to be afraid of or hide so happy take it as doesn't effect my life at all all your negativity

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By *DI SocialsWoman 9 weeks ago

York

You do you fella

Good luck

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By *oopandBeauCouple 9 weeks ago

Harold Wood, Essex

Whether it was their intention or not, this article was so incredibly damaging to our way of life ... The majority of people like that swinging is under the radar so they don't constantly get interrogated by friends and family! A very ill-judged article

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

"Whether it was their intention or not, this article was so incredibly damaging to our way of life ... The majority of people like that swinging is under the radar so they don't constantly get interrogated by friends and family! A very ill-judged article

It's in the newspapers every year saying GC is the swingers capital. So it's not new or a surprise to majority of people.. Just maybe first one you have seen. 2016 was earliest I saw when googled x

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By *oopandBeauCouple 9 weeks ago

Harold Wood, Essex

It's in the newspapers every year saying GC is the swingers capital. So it's not new or a surprise to majority of people.. Just maybe first one you have seen. 2016 was earliest I saw when googled x "

Maybe, personally I've not seen articles before so it feels like this is being promoted more and will therefore sadly make more of an impact on the wider public. The worst part was the one guy who kept talking about "40 girl orgies" ... So GC will just be overrun with stag parties now with no knowledge of the scene thinking they can get a quick easy fuck. Great! Understandably they struggled to find people willing to be interviewed on camera but sadly a lot of the interviewees didn't show this world in the best light. Maybe it was hastily put together as it felt like the full implications of this were definitely not considered.

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By *lltheboostCouple 9 weeks ago

Shefford

"“people not ashamed of who they are”

This isnt the way to view peoples discomfort here.

The swinging community relies on discretion as not everyone has the benefit of judgement free vanilla lives."

Well said.

Although it’s kinda pointless to try and make this person understand. They think over one over 40 is the old guard and ther for wrong, so won’t listen to reason.

They don’t seem to understand that people lose jobs and have lives affected over this sort of thing if not handled correctly. But it’s ok, as their “young”

So they must be right…

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By *lltheboostCouple 9 weeks ago

Shefford

" The worst part was the one guy who kept talking about "40 girl orgies" ... "

It’s crazy they put such a blatant lie out there like that.

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By *ubbsWoman 9 weeks ago

Southsea, Portsmouth

Lol they're not even young... Which makes it even more puzzling. Surely mutual respect is what swinging lives by, not railroading the community and shaming those who don't fit within one person's definition of 'hot'? 🤔 😂

Maybe our years of swinging happily whilst respecting others right to privacy has been all wrong? Pretty sure we'll still be here when the 'young' have disappeared... Again

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By *ubbsWoman 9 weeks ago

Southsea, Portsmouth

Hey sexies. That one made me particularly laugh.. 40 girl orgies.. In GC? Most of the orgies we've seen out there we've been in the middle of with stunned onlookers and it definitely wasn't '40 girl' ones 😂 😉

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By *oopandBeauCouple 9 weeks ago

Harold Wood, Essex

"Hey sexies. That one made me particularly laugh.. 40 girl orgies.. In GC? Most of the orgies we've seen out there we've been in the middle of with stunned onlookers and it definitely wasn't '40 girl' ones 😂 😉 "

Everyone knows your orgies are the best ones! And yes something doesn't ring true there. On our 6 trips to GC we're yet to see more than a handful of girls playing together

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By *oopandBeauCouple 9 weeks ago

Harold Wood, Essex

" The worst part was the one guy who kept talking about "40 girl orgies" ...

It’s crazy they put such a blatant lie out there like that."

Absolutely! That was possibly the most damaging flippant remark/lie of the whole piece

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By *ubbsWoman 9 weeks ago

Southsea, Portsmouth

Aww you know we love a good orgy... You're usually in the middle of them 😂 but yes flippant comments that are blatantly untrue give an impression just for dramatic effect. Even on my birthday when we had 180 couples we didn't have a 40 girl orgy! God knows I've tried 😂

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman 9 weeks ago

tf1

"You know 95% of the swinging community do you? Maybe 95% of your small circle. And there has been sun stories last few years. Just maybe only this one brought to your attention as people were in The PDI group. And the younger generation doesn't need to learn about swinging rules. Though I do apologise for your older generations making you all think that ethical non monogamy is something to be ashamed of and push you all into keeping secret. Along with interracial relationships and same sex it's tho older generations with prejudiced and bigoted views...We have moved on a long way and hopefully in future people who wish to partake in any form of consensual fun with whomever don't feel shameful and that they have to hide without fear of losing jobs or shunned by friends/family. "

So all Older people are against same sex relationships and interracial relationships then. Right. So what age are you classing older as because according to your profile we are the same age and I am not impressed with the article and I’m most definitely not against same sex or interracial relationship

No one needs to broadcast their sex life.

And if you really think that you are working with the sun then you are incredibly naive. The sun is in it to sell their comics. They don’t care about truth and will throw anyone under the bus the second they can if it sells.

Not once have you taken on board anyone’s comments or views. People are upset and pissed off. You want to tell the world about what you get up to you crack on. That doesn’t mean I do.

The first rule of swingers is discretion. One which they clearly don’t understand.

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman 9 weeks ago

tf1

" The worst part was the one guy who kept talking about "40 girl orgies" ...

It’s crazy they put such a blatant lie out there like that.

Absolutely! That was possibly the most damaging flippant remark/lie of the whole piece"

It’s the sun. They aren’t known for stories being factual. And they don’t give a shit.

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

I am just so happy I am classed as young still.

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By *etWetWet453Couple 9 weeks ago

CAMBERLEY

Can’t argue with Stupid.

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

Can’t argue with people who can’t or won’t accept others views. But when they have their own website, insta, onlyfans etc etc which I am sure make them a few quid it is easy to see why they would want the free “publicity”.

If not and it was done with good intentions then they should at least be able to say sorry if it caused offence instead of just insulting people.

I just hope everyone who was in that film can see why so many are upset with it even if they think they are right.

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman 9 weeks ago

tf1

"I am just so happy I am classed as young still. "

Perhaps I’m old as I’m a whole year older

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By *DI SocialsWoman 9 weeks ago

York

Why did they keep it sop hush hush . Because they fully knew it would cause a divide

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By *ara DosCouple 9 weeks ago

Here, There, Everywhere

The whole debacle smells of “back handers “ with free advertising to promote businesses and personal social media accounts 🤦‍♀️

A line was crossed and people do not forget when their liberties have been betrayed

I have not seen one apology from anyone concerned? I personally think they would be well advised to make a public apology in the first instance, rather than supporting their appalling behaviour that has been felt by many profiles on Fab and other platforms 🤷‍♀️

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By *ubbsWoman 9 weeks ago

Southsea, Portsmouth

Totally, it's definitely a 'read the room' moment.

Well said

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By *oldByMarCouple 9 weeks ago

playa de ingles / outa da west

"Have been swinging for many years before swingathon including separately before we were a couple. And have been advocating swinging before attended a swingathon festival so not about instafamous at all, but all friends and family know we are in the lifestyle so don't mind if we are out there. As I said before better than them exposing people who aren't so lucky to be able to be as open xx"

So by any chance are ye some of the ones that gave information to the press about the clubs etc

Seen that your so vocal about what happened and defending the people who were behind this report

JMY

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By *andcar2Couple 9 weeks ago

Wimbledon

The Press have always wanted to be on the inside within our scene, and we’ve managed to a certain degree to always keep them on the outside looking in, so to speak, but now thanks to what swingathon have done, not only are they on the inside, but have in-depth full information on PDI, with no regards to how swingers feel, we are lucky all our family and friends and work colleagues know we are swingers, but now people are going to be asked some awkward questions about PDI this is wrong, theve shown no respect and don’t care at all about others as long as they can promote themselves, and cannot be trusted, also why wasn't everyone pre warned, maybe because they knew what they were doing was wrong, but suppose we are the old generation who still have respect for other people privacy

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

"The whole debacle smells of “back handers “ with free advertising to promote businesses and personal social media accounts 🤦‍♀️

A line was crossed and people do not forget when their liberties have been betrayed

I'm really sorry

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

So by any chance are ye some of the ones that gave information to the press about the clubs etc

Seen that your so vocal about what happened and defending the people who were behind this report

JMY "

Have you read all of the replies in here? Information is all there saves asking questions already answered xx

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

No one needs to broadcast their sex life.

Not once have you taken on board anyone’s comments or views. People are upset and pissed off. You want to tell the world about what you get up to you crack on. That doesn’t mean I do.

The first rule of swingers is discretion. One which they clearly don’t understand. "

ALL OLDER PEOPLE?

seems another person who struggles with accurately comprehending information. Who said all? Predominantly it seems to be I said...and check ages on this post and the PDI WhatsApp. But it's maybe a generation thing. When u are brought up with attitudes that sex maybe shameful etc etc and all the other oppressiveness then it forms your beliefs.. but at no point did I say all. And people who are open and happy you think should be silenced or not talk about their lifestyle? Who makes the hush rules? Shhh don't talk about it..... do u think it's dirty and shameful?? And plenty of non swingers who go to GC I'm sure they aren't outraged they are laughing it off. If you are outraged at GC being labelled a swingers hotspot that's a you problem x

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By *rincess_boiCouple 9 weeks ago

Bristol

As the Sun reporter is in the Lifestyle, I wonder if they have a Fab Swingers account??? Be handy to know their profile name?

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By *woforfun 1000Couple 9 weeks ago

surrey

Tbh it came out the day we was flying home and worried me a lot as it adds to why people always ask why we always go PDI!

We are not ashamed of our swinging but more that it’s our little secret, something for us and has nothing to do with anyone else! If they want to wonder fine but this article was awful! 40 women orgys yeah that’s not gonna sound fucked up to most is it plus I never saw that in any club so was def a major over exaggeration!

Showing all the bars and clubs out there in detail wasn’t needed!

I’m all for people who are able to open up to their familys etc that’s wonderful for you but our choice is not to and that’s exactly what swinging is “our choice”!

Our family unfortunately are not that open and I know for a fact I would get “we are not gonna babysit your kids while u go fuck other people”! As that is what some people view it as unfortunately, This article is not gonna get rid of the stigma if anything it’s gonna make it worse and it just wasn’t needed in that much detail and is just gonna put thoughts into friends and family’s heads when we like it as an escape from a very hectic vanilla life and feel it’s our right to have that without questions asked!

It wasn’t just about being labelled as a swinging hotspot it showed massive details into the clubs and bars for what gain? What was the need to invite them out? If they wasn’t there wouldn’t have been such a big article on it and wouldn’t put people in the lifestyle in a position of being talked about by friends and family!

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

You can be as open as you like. But it is you who is missing the point. Not everyone what’s this side of things to be open to everyone. It is not a shame thing. It is a personal thing and it is for many reasons.

Just because people don’t have their own website. Make money from a OF or promote things on insta don’t make them ashamed of swinging or sex.

We all do this for different reasons but the lack of respect for others is what the issue is here.

Go promote yourselfs or swingathon promote their event. Absolutely no need to potentially make issues for others.

I do understand what you and swingathon are trying to accomplish. I think we all agree with it to a point. But read the room. This was and is the wrong way to go about it.

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By *ane61Man 9 weeks ago

Roskilde

When people want to turn their lifestyle into a business, they need to balance things. A business needs PR, but in this case it also needs discretion. Som can always ballance it. Some can ballance it most of the time, and then there are a few that just can not. The last group is not in business for very long.

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By *ubbsWoman 9 weeks ago

Southsea, Portsmouth

"When people want to turn their lifestyle into a business, they need to balance things. A business needs PR, but in this case it also needs discretion. Som can always ballance it. Some can ballance it most of the time, and then there are a few that just can not. The last group is not in business for very long."

You are right, Seen so so many come and go and relationships fail because they immerse themselves into the lifestyle regardless, and inspite of others.

They definitely can't read the room if they can't accept it's an underground lifestyle not mainstream and never will be. That's the entire point!

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By *ittlechick77Couple 9 weeks ago

Staines

Seriously if any one of us thought that sex was oppressive and shameful you simply would not be in this lifestyle anyway. We are also not ashamed as again if we we were then we wouldn't do it.

This is about respect and the most important thing in the lifestyle people's discretion. Which you Hedon and hell ask for on your own profile as you don't meet on Fridays unless planned a month in advance. So you are not as you say sex freedom 7 days a week 52 weeks a year.

You and others chose to go down this route for what ever motivational reaso s you as a group had, it has backfired and the defense of those actions has no to go personal and targeted.

This is a open forum on here all genders all ethnicities all ages and the forum room is clearly pissed off as its been said by a number of people you are not reading the room

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By *ubbsWoman 9 weeks ago

Southsea, Portsmouth

"Tbh it came out the day we was flying home and worried me a lot as it adds to why people always ask why we always go PDI!

Showing all the bars and clubs out there in detail wasn’t needed!

I’m all for people who are able to open up to their familys etc that’s wonderful for you but our choice is not to and that’s exactly what swinging is “our choice”!

Exactly this! It's shining a spotlight on a destination and will have so many repercussions for people who cannot afford to be outed for many reasons.

If I was still in my old job I'd be sacked!

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By *ubbsWoman 9 weeks ago

Southsea, Portsmouth

No one needs to broadcast their sex life.

Not once have you taken on board anyone’s comments or views. People are upset and pissed off. You want to tell the world about what you get up to you crack on. That doesn’t mean I do.

The first rule of swingers is discretion. One which they clearly don’t understand.

ALL OLDER PEOPLE?

You've been very vocal and derogatory about the age of swingers when the vast demographic is over 35. You were quoted correctly. Quote frankly the comments were unnecessary.

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By *art1968Man 9 weeks ago

stafford

Do you think this will change much the destinations like minded people go to and maybe other tourist towns in GC will take over in some way that’s aren’t necessarily swinging hotspots at the moment?

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

"As the Sun reporter is in the Lifestyle, I wonder if they have a Fab Swingers account??? Be handy to know their profile name?"

They are but if you aren't friends or have been messaged by them then you may probably be out of their search preferences.

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

No one needs to broadcast their sex life.

Not once have you taken on board anyone’s comments or views. People are upset and pissed off. You want to tell the world about what you get up to you crack on. That doesn’t mean I do.

The first rule of swingers is discretion. One which they clearly don’t understand.

ALL OLDER PEOPLE?

You've been very vocal and derogatory about the age of swingers when the vast demographic is over 35. You were quoted correctly. Quote frankly the comments were unnecessary. "

Ok please show me where I said ALL older swingers and I will stand corrected but I know u can't so still stands. Xxxx

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

And the younger generation doesn't need to learn about swinging rules. Though I do apologise for your older generations making you all think that ethical non monogamy is something to be ashamed of and push you all into keeping secret. Along with interracial relationships and same sex it's tho older generations with prejudiced and bigoted views...

You said it right here. But it is ok keep digging.

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By *ubbsWoman 9 weeks ago

Southsea, Portsmouth

No one needs to broadcast their sex life.

Not once have you taken on board anyone’s comments or views. People are upset and pissed off. You want to tell the world about what you get up to you crack on. That doesn’t mean I do.

The first rule of swingers is discretion. One which they clearly don’t understand.

ALL OLDER PEOPLE?

You've been very vocal and derogatory about the age of swingers when the vast demographic is over 35. You were quoted correctly. Quote frankly the comments were unnecessary.

Ok please show me where I said ALL older swingers and I will stand corrected but I know u can't so still stands. Xxxx"

A simple 'Sorry I was a bit rude about the older swingers' would have done.

Happy swinging

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By *ubbsWoman 9 weeks ago

Southsea, Portsmouth

"And the younger generation doesn't need to learn about swinging rules. Though I do apologise for your older generations making you all think that ethical non monogamy is something to be ashamed of and push you all into keeping secret. Along with interracial relationships and same sex it's tho older generations with prejudiced and bigoted views...

You said it right here. But it is ok keep digging. "

😂 😂 You're a legend mate. I couldn't be arsed to get into quote wars but you're my knight in slightly tarnished armour 😉 😂

I mean, if you can't remember what you've said... 🤷🏼😂

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By *woforfun 1000Couple 9 weeks ago

surrey

Have you actually seen the comments on the YouTube video and how you have actually made the lifestyle come across? Shameful tactics to promote their business and shows lack of understanding to the lifestyle!

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By *x2 4 funCouple 9 weeks ago

Southampton

As for being one of the oldies on here I do want my privacy I have no shame or hang ups on what we have done but I wouldn’t want my children to know. How many kids would want to think of their parents doing things not many I’m sure

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

You said it right here. But it is ok keep digging.

😂 😂 You're a legend mate. I couldn't be arsed to get into quote wars but you're my knight in slightly tarnished armour 😉 😂

I mean, if you can't remember what you've said... 🤷🏼😂 "

YOU All not All OLD PEOPLE, again a difference..

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

You said it right here. But it is ok keep digging.

😂 😂 You're a legend mate. I couldn't be arsed to get into quote wars but you're my knight in slightly tarnished armour 😉 😂

I mean, if you can't remember what you've said... 🤷🏼😂

YOU All not All OLD PEOPLE, again a difference..

As I also said have some of our fave people from the swinging community who are seasoned.. I haven't called anyone in here stupid like a few have but...

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By *ubbsWoman 9 weeks ago

Southsea, Portsmouth

You said it right here. But it is ok keep digging.

😂 😂 You're a legend mate. I couldn't be arsed to get into quote wars but you're my knight in slightly tarnished armour 😉 😂

I mean, if you can't remember what you've said... 🤷🏼😂

YOU All not All OLD PEOPLE, again a difference..

'You all' referencing the swingers...not all old people as obviously not all old people are swingers. Context is everything.

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By *ubbsWoman 9 weeks ago

Southsea, Portsmouth

You said it right here. But it is ok keep digging.

😂 😂 You're a legend mate. I couldn't be arsed to get into quote wars but you're my knight in slightly tarnished armour 😉 😂

I mean, if you can't remember what you've said... 🤷🏼😂

YOU All not All OLD PEOPLE, again a difference..

As I also said have some of our fave people from the swinging community who are seasoned.. I haven't called anyone in here stupid like a few have but..."

We aren't condiments

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

No one needs to broadcast their sex life.

Not once have you taken on board anyone’s comments or views. People are upset and pissed off. You want to tell the world about what you get up to you crack on. That doesn’t mean I do.

The first rule of swingers is discretion. One which they clearly don’t understand.

ALL OLDER PEOPLE?

You've been very vocal and derogatory about the age of swingers when the vast demographic is over 35. You were quoted correctly. Quote frankly the comments were unnecessary.

Ok please show me where I said ALL older swingers and I will stand corrected but I know u can't so still stands. Xxxx

A simple 'Sorry I was a bit rude about the older swingers' would have done.

Happy swinging"

And SOME of the older swingers maybe. I also a like a lot of them in fact have friends of many ages in the lifestyle... as they aren't like ALL OF YOU OLDIES ON HERE WHO ARE OUTRAGED

see I just said ALL then

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

You said it right here. But it is ok keep digging.

😂 😂 You're a legend mate. I couldn't be arsed to get into quote wars but you're my knight in slightly tarnished armour 😉 😂

I mean, if you can't remember what you've said... 🤷🏼😂

YOU All not All OLD PEOPLE, again a difference..

As I also said have some of our fave people from the swinging community who are seasoned.. I haven't called anyone in here stupid like a few have but...

We aren't condiments "

Just salty

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By *eautynGeekCouple 9 weeks ago

Dalry

What a train wreck of a thread anyone got any popcorn

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

You said it right here. But it is ok keep digging.

😂 😂 You're a legend mate. I couldn't be arsed to get into quote wars but you're my knight in slightly tarnished armour 😉 😂

I mean, if you can't remember what you've said... 🤷🏼😂

YOU All not All OLD PEOPLE, again a difference..

'You all' referencing the swingers...not all old people as obviously not all old people are swingers. Context is everything.

YOU DIRECTLY THEN IF IT HELPS ANY CONFUSION AND OTHERS ON HERE WHO ARE 'outraged'

Makes no difference to me. Can do and say as I please its freedom. Feels amazing

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

Feels amazing to not have the support of a very big part of the community you say you’re trying to help.

Again just shows it is for self benefit.

There is not even some acknowledgement they you can understand why people are upset and that is the most worrying thing as like I said before I think most can appreciate what you are trying to do but just don’t agree with it being done like this.

Your attitude on here has just galvanised views.

Funny how the comments on the YouTube video also have not been complimentary as well. So the vanilla world don’t like this and the swinging world don’t like it. But your bubble of content creators do. Funny that.

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By *asycouple777Couple 9 weeks ago

bristol

It’s like Facebook on here

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By *eandher123Couple 9 weeks ago

Liverpool

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By *eandher123Couple 9 weeks ago

Liverpool

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By *andytoesCouple 9 weeks ago

Cramlington

Ok, time for me to wade in as an ancient outraged 44 year old (5 whole years older than Hedonandhell

) in a professional job who would rather save colleagues, friends and family the embarrassment of easily putting two and two together and making four, after reading or watching the article when just randomly scrolling or walking through the newspaper aisle of the supermarket! Not to mention this past time of ours is far sexier because it's naughty and SECRET!

I can't believe nobody has made the analogy yet. What if a tabloid published an article saying "Loads of gay people annually descend on Mykonos between June 10th and 24th"? And you regularly booked to go there during those dates, and didn’t hide that from friends and family, but that tabloid has effectively outed you?

There would be absolute outrage and rightly so. How is that different, other than sexuality is a protected characteristic and being a swinger isn't?

People who are being purposely obtuse about why this has been badly done, are painting themselves in a bad light by pretending not to understand the issue. Which is why they are resorting to name calling and going round in circles.

Right, I've said my piece and I'm going back to my old people chat

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By *iproperswingersCouple 9 weeks ago

Rainham

"Publicity when positive helps bring those curious into the lifestyle too..have had lots of people visit clubs for first time after speaking to them about it..and not our local club/s so some of u may have actually benefited from it with some new people joining the lifestyle

Perfectly wrote

!!!

Plus, anyone with a brain cell would know what’s going on over there; once there: it’s just a really well wrote article that explains the facts of the scene & not just sensationalist news. I thought it was an amazing piece of journalism. Highlighting why there’s no much stigma still will only help to push people to have an open conversation about it. We get why people care so much; considering people hide it so much but educating the main stream part of society will really help discrimination cases. It’s time we were all more honest

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By *iproperswingersCouple 9 weeks ago

Rainham

"It’s like Facebook on here

I agree ☝️

What’s going on lol

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By *iproperswingersCouple 9 weeks ago

Rainham

" The worst part was the one guy who kept talking about "40 girl orgies" ...

It’s crazy they put such a blatant lie out there like that."

There was a 40 only woman orgy at swingathon and I know that because I set it up and participated

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By *ubbsWoman 9 weeks ago

Southsea, Portsmouth

No one needs to broadcast their sex life.

Not once have you taken on board anyone’s comments or views. People are upset and pissed off. You want to tell the world about what you get up to you crack on. That doesn’t mean I do.

The first rule of swingers is discretion. One which they clearly don’t understand.

ALL OLDER PEOPLE?

You've been very vocal and derogatory about the age of swingers when the vast demographic is over 35. You were quoted correctly. Quote frankly the comments were unnecessary.

Ok please show me where I said ALL older swingers and I will stand corrected but I know u can't so still stands. Xxxx

A simple 'Sorry I was a bit rude about the older swingers' would have done.

Happy swinging

And SOME of the older swingers maybe. I also a like a lot of them in fact have friends of many ages in the lifestyle... as they aren't like ALL OF YOU OLDIES ON HERE WHO ARE OUTRAGED

see I just said ALL then

You do know who you're talking to, right?

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By *iproperswingersCouple 9 weeks ago

Rainham

You are right, Seen so so many come and go and relationships fail because they immerse themselves into the lifestyle regardless, and inspite of others.

They definitely can't read the room if they can't accept it's an underground lifestyle not mainstream and never will be. That's the entire point! "

Underground lifestyle - not mainstream and it will never be - that’s the entire point..

I agree with this / to a degree

But surely educating the world - or at lease trying too, isn’t a bad thing?

The secretive part of it is a 100% boundary but just because some of us are out and proud; surely that shouldn’t mean we will be outed by the community because of that?

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By *iproperswingersCouple 9 weeks ago

Rainham

"Ok, time for me to wade in as an ancient outraged 44 year old (5 whole years older than Hedonandhell

There would be absolute outrage and rightly so. How is that different, other than sexuality is a protected characteristic and being a swinger isn't?

Right, I've said my piece and I'm going back to my old people chat

I think some people honestly want to be open and are proud of it..

We’ve done a podcast / blog about it for the last 5 years and we’ve been slowly introducing people into this amazing community for decades now..

I started swinging at 19 and the change in the last decade has been incredibly fast! Times are changing and social attitudes are gradually changing; but in group fighting isn’t needed. Through educating the vanilla world, less legal discrimination will take place; because the social world will adapt. I know it will because I’ve seen it.

Our families and friends shouldn’t be embarrassed- I get that but over time, that shame will get less and less.. we just need to be open more about it.

Char xx

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By *etWetWet453Couple 9 weeks ago

CAMBERLEY

Perfectly wrote

!!!

That’s a sweeping statement. My sister and brother in law have been going there several times a year for over 50 years. They hadn’t got a clue until we told them last year.

One thing that you can say about the Scum is that they never write an “amazing piece of journalism. “

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By *andytoesCouple 9 weeks ago

Cramlington

"I think some people honestly want to be open and are proud of it..

Our families and friends shouldn’t be embarrassed- I get that but over time, that shame will get less and less.. we just need to be open more about it"

I agree it's not something to be embarrassed about and people want to be open and proud. But that's an entirely different thing to outing those of us who would rather keep it as a private past time that WE choose who to tell.

Not everyone needs to know every detail of your private life. You don't see people walking around Asda with "I love piss play" badges on! Let them tell who they want to, whichever parts they want to. It's nobody else's decision to make.

By telling the public that swingers go to PDI the first two weeks in October, that is making it pretty obvious what you're there for!

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By *ilf and old fartCouple 9 weeks ago

Between Ely and Mildenhall

That's a good holiday destination now off of the list

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By *lltheboostCouple 9 weeks ago

Shefford

"Feels amazing to not have the support of a very big part of the community you say you’re trying to help.

Again just shows it is for self benefit.

Your attitude on here has just galvanised views.

💯

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

I don’t think anyone is disagreeing with that. What they are disagreeing with is how this bit was done.

People have the right to be open about what they do. But people also have to right to want this side of this discrete. How that piece was done very much disregarded and disrespected the latter.

Many people are open about the lifestyle but with who they choose to tell. Many feel this could take that choice away.

Like I said before I totally get what they say they are trying to achieve but this was definitely the wrong way to go about it. For many it feels like it is a swingathon publicity stunt. It is a shame others got caught in their spin.

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By *lltheboostCouple 9 weeks ago

Shefford

" The worst part was the one guy who kept talking about "40 girl orgies" ...

It’s crazy they put such a blatant lie out there like that.

There was a 40 only woman orgy at swingathon and I know that because I set it up and participated

Not in the context of the article though. That was played out to be a normal night at PDI.

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By *P28Woman 9 weeks ago

Portsmouth

This has tainted the end of an amazing first trip to PDI!

I wasn't going to have my say as this is the reason I left social media, however, as one of the "oldies" on here and yes it is being used as an insult by our delightful not so young herself, heckler as she refers to her older 'friends' in the scene as "seasoned".

I'm delighted that she (sorry I can't remember her name...must be my peri-menopause!!) feels able to shout her lifestyle from the rooftops and can understand how empowering that will feel for her.

However not everyone can or wants to do that, so moving away from facts and figures being used, let's take this back to what it is really about and that is a collective love for something we all have in common, but it's not a mainstream lifestyle.

No one has the right to 'out' anyone.

If this lady were to remove her rose tinted glasses for a moment and actually hear what people are trying to say, she may learn a thing or two about the real world we live in.

For example it is written into my work contract and my tennancy agreement that it is a condition that I don't bring my company into disrepute, if I was outed as a swinger and my profile on here exposed it would be classed as pornographic and I could lose my job and my home, never mind that my teenage son would become a target at college.

Rightly or wrongly pretty much every job within the civil service will have the same written into the contracts.

Also it's worth highlighting that it's our generation of "oldies" that paved the way for the younger generations to be so open and free.

I grew up in the 70/80s and would have had my head kicked in for being bisexual, I didn't come 'out' until the late 90s and still don't tell everyone.

As for not understanding ENM, nonsense I class myself as ENM and shame...I don't have an ounce of it, ask those who have met me, I have nothing to be ashamed of that doesn't remove my right to privacy.

I mean I understand the anger coming from this person as like any cornered animal she's in defense mode, shame because all it would have taken was some understanding that we all have different reasons for swinging and for wanting to keep that and the location of where we go private. Instead of going all guns blazing shouting (yes even us "oldies" know that capitals is shouting!) and hurling insults around.

As an add on I'm 53 and never used a filter in my life (probably wouldn't know how too) Our 'young' peer here doesn't seem to be able to post a picture without one! I wonder why that could be?!

"And that's all I have to say about that"

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By *eandher123Couple 9 weeks ago

Liverpool

"This has tainted the end of an amazing first trip to PDI!

I'm delighted that she (sorry I can't remember her name...must be my peri-menopause!!) feels able to shout her lifestyle from the rooftops and can understand how empowering that will feel for her.

No one has the right to 'out' anyone.

If this lady were to remove her rose tinted glasses for a moment and actually hear what people are trying to say, she may learn a thing or two about the real world we live in.

Rightly or wrongly pretty much every job within the civil service will have the same written into the contracts.

Also it's worth highlighting that it's our generation of "oldies" that paved the way for the younger generations to be so open and free.

I grew up in the 70/80s and would have had my head kicked in for being bisexual, I didn't come 'out' until the late 90s and still don't tell everyone.

As an add on I'm 53 and never used a filter in my life (probably wouldn't know how too) Our 'young' peer here doesn't seem to be able to post a picture without one! I wonder why that could be?!

"And that's all I have to say about that"

Fabulous post and a more than worthy ending X

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By *igdodger13Man 9 weeks ago

sompting

"This has tainted the end of an amazing first trip to PDI!

I'm delighted that she (sorry I can't remember her name...must be my peri-menopause!!) feels able to shout her lifestyle from the rooftops and can understand how empowering that will feel for her.

No one has the right to 'out' anyone.

If this lady were to remove her rose tinted glasses for a moment and actually hear what people are trying to say, she may learn a thing or two about the real world we live in.

Rightly or wrongly pretty much every job within the civil service will have the same written into the contracts.

Also it's worth highlighting that it's our generation of "oldies" that paved the way for the younger generations to be so open and free.

I grew up in the 70/80s and would have had my head kicked in for being bisexual, I didn't come 'out' until the late 90s and still don't tell everyone.

As an add on I'm 53 and never used a filter in my life (probably wouldn't know how too) Our 'young' peer here doesn't seem to be able to post a picture without one! I wonder why that could be?!

"And that's all I have to say about that"

Fabulous post and a more than worthy ending X"

Great post and don’t let a small minority put you off

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By *oldByMarCouple 9 weeks ago

playa de ingles / outa da west

So by any chance are ye some of the ones that gave information to the press about the clubs etc

Seen that your so vocal about what happened and defending the people who were behind this report

JMY

Have you read all of the replies in here? Information is all there saves asking questions already answered xx"

Oh I have but I smell a rat 🐀 and just narrowing down the location of the rat 🐀

They are vermin and need to be dealt with

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By *ubbsWoman 9 weeks ago

Southsea, Portsmouth

"This has tainted the end of an amazing first trip to PDI!

I'm delighted that she (sorry I can't remember her name...must be my peri-menopause!!) feels able to shout her lifestyle from the rooftops and can understand how empowering that will feel for her.

No one has the right to 'out' anyone.

If this lady were to remove her rose tinted glasses for a moment and actually hear what people are trying to say, she may learn a thing or two about the real world we live in.

Rightly or wrongly pretty much every job within the civil service will have the same written into the contracts.

Also it's worth highlighting that it's our generation of "oldies" that paved the way for the younger generations to be so open and free.

I grew up in the 70/80s and would have had my head kicked in for being bisexual, I didn't come 'out' until the late 90s and still don't tell everyone.

As an add on I'm 53 and never used a filter in my life (probably wouldn't know how too) Our 'young' peer here doesn't seem to be able to post a picture without one! I wonder why that could be?!

"And that's all I have to say about that"

Absolutely spot on hun. Looking forward to meeting you soon.

As a side note the accusations that we are all homophobic is ridiculous considering most of us as are Bi!

And those rights she's enjoying? You're welcome.

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By *parkybunnyCouple 9 weeks ago

Zurich. NOT London.

"This has tainted the end of an amazing first trip to PDI!

I'm delighted that she (sorry I can't remember her name...must be my peri-menopause!!) feels able to shout her lifestyle from the rooftops and can understand how empowering that will feel for her.

No one has the right to 'out' anyone.

If this lady were to remove her rose tinted glasses for a moment and actually hear what people are trying to say, she may learn a thing or two about the real world we live in.

Rightly or wrongly pretty much every job within the civil service will have the same written into the contracts.

Also it's worth highlighting that it's our generation of "oldies" that paved the way for the younger generations to be so open and free.

I grew up in the 70/80s and would have had my head kicked in for being bisexual, I didn't come 'out' until the late 90s and still don't tell everyone.

As an add on I'm 53 and never used a filter in my life (probably wouldn't know how too) Our 'young' peer here doesn't seem to be able to post a picture without one! I wonder why that could be?!

"And that's all I have to say about that"

Exactly this. Not sure the youngsters are aware of morality clauses in employment contracts? It appears October in PDI, when swingers sell out others for their 5 minutes of fame is to be avoided. Along with avoiding any clubs or events that court this kind of publicity.

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By *oldByMarCouple 9 weeks ago

playa de ingles / outa da west

"Tbh it came out the day we was flying home and worried me a lot as it adds to why people always ask why we always go PDI!

Showing all the bars and clubs out there in detail wasn’t needed!

I’m all for people who are able to open up to their familys etc that’s wonderful for you but our choice is not to and that’s exactly what swinging is “our choice”!

Well said and agree with you 100%

You shouldn’t have to explain yourself or give reasons to anyone about your lifestyle .

The people involved in this did it for financial and publicity but could backfire on them

Boycott the clubs and bars

See how they like that

They had no respect for peoples discretion allowing the press to cover the story

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

No one needs to broadcast their sex life.

Not once have you taken on board anyone’s comments or views. People are upset and pissed off. You want to tell the world about what you get up to you crack on. That doesn’t mean I do.

The first rule of swingers is discretion. One which they clearly don’t understand.

ALL OLDER PEOPLE?

You've been very vocal and derogatory about the age of swingers when the vast demographic is over 35. You were quoted correctly. Quote frankly the comments were unnecessary.

Ok please show me where I said ALL older swingers and I will stand corrected but I know u can't so still stands. Xxxx

A simple 'Sorry I was a bit rude about the older swingers' would have done.

Happy swinging

And SOME of the older swingers maybe. I also a like a lot of them in fact have friends of many ages in the lifestyle... as they aren't like ALL OF YOU OLDIES ON HERE WHO ARE OUTRAGED

see I just said ALL then

You do know who you're talking to, right? "

Is this your way of saying 'do you know who I am?'

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By *oldByMarCouple 9 weeks ago

playa de ingles / outa da west

"Seriously if any one of us thought that sex was oppressive and shameful you simply would not be in this lifestyle anyway. We are also not ashamed as again if we we were then we wouldn't do it.

You and others chose to go down this route for what ever motivational reaso s you as a group had, it has backfired and the defense of those actions has no to go personal and targeted.

This is a open forum on here all genders all ethnicities all ages and the forum room is clearly pissed off as its been said by a number of people you are not reading the room

Well said

I hope they have nothing but bad luck for what they’ve done

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

"Seriously if any one of us thought that sex was oppressive and shameful you simply would not be in this lifestyle anyway. We are also not ashamed as again if we we were then we wouldn't do it.

You and others chose to go down this route for what ever motivational reaso s you as a group had, it has backfired and the defense of those actions has no to go personal and targeted.

This is a open forum on here all genders all ethnicities all ages and the forum room is clearly pissed off as its been said by a number of people you are not reading the room

Well said

I hope they have nothing but bad luck for what they’ve done

Opposite Infact... so clearly not 95% of swingers agreeing with you...many people positive and agreeing with it being open in inboxes. And lots wanting to get the courage to try for first time. Will leave you all to it now, enough energy on this for now have lots to get on with..Wishing you all the day you deserve

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By *oldByMarCouple 9 weeks ago

playa de ingles / outa da west

"Seriously if any one of us thought that sex was oppressive and shameful you simply would not be in this lifestyle anyway. We are also not ashamed as again if we we were then we wouldn't do it.

You and others chose to go down this route for what ever motivational reaso s you as a group had, it has backfired and the defense of those actions has no to go personal and targeted.

This is a open forum on here all genders all ethnicities all ages and the forum room is clearly pissed off as its been said by a number of people you are not reading the room

Well said

I hope they have nothing but bad luck for what they’ve done

It’s easy say your inbox is filling up with support

Prove it get the sun to publish them

Show who’s supporting you if they’ve nothing to hide

Your full of BULL SC U TT ER

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

"Seriously if any one of us thought that sex was oppressive and shameful you simply would not be in this lifestyle anyway. We are also not ashamed as again if we we were then we wouldn't do it.

You and others chose to go down this route for what ever motivational reaso s you as a group had, it has backfired and the defense of those actions has no to go personal and targeted.

This is a open forum on here all genders all ethnicities all ages and the forum room is clearly pissed off as its been said by a number of people you are not reading the room

Well said

I hope they have nothing but bad luck for what they’ve done

It’s easy say your inbox is filling up with support

Prove it get the sun to publish them

Show who’s supporting you if they’ve nothing to hide

Your full of BULL SC U TT ER

Can't post pics on here..but happy to share keeping them anonymous.. as don't want them to get backlash. But I can take it as u are all insignificant to me and clearly not my kind of people. Don't need horlicks to sleep at night

may actually do something on socials about it all xx

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By *ormandieCplCouple 9 weeks ago

Normandie, France

For what it's worth....the ONLY person I know who reads the Sun has WhatsApp'd me to say, he now knows why we go to PDI.... Pisstake or not it's a pain.

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By *oldByMarCouple 9 weeks ago

playa de ingles / outa da west

"Seriously if any one of us thought that sex was oppressive and shameful you simply would not be in this lifestyle anyway. We are also not ashamed as again if we we were then we wouldn't do it.

You and others chose to go down this route for what ever motivational reaso s you as a group had, it has backfired and the defense of those actions has no to go personal and targeted.

This is a open forum on here all genders all ethnicities all ages and the forum room is clearly pissed off as its been said by a number of people you are not reading the room

Well said

I hope they have nothing but bad luck for what they’ve done

It’s easy say your inbox is filling up with support

Prove it get the sun to publish them

Show who’s supporting you if they’ve nothing to hide

Your full of BULL SC U TT ER

may actually do something on socials about it all xx"

You weren’t worried about keeping others anonymous or their discretion with the press but you want to keep your supporters anonymous.

Grow a pair of B a lls and back up your statements on here

Fortunately it has already backfired and not only for ye but the clubs & bars in PDI also who allowed it be exposed whilst trying to promote their businesses. People here are sticking together and as you called us the “OLDIES “ are here In greater numbers and bring it to its knees

People in numbers are powerful when sticking together.

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By *exy_Disco OP Man 9 weeks ago

Bicester

You said it right here. But it is ok keep digging.

😂 😂 You're a legend mate. I couldn't be arsed to get into quote wars but you're my knight in slightly tarnished armour 😉 😂

I mean, if you can't remember what you've said... 🤷🏼😂

YOU All not All OLD PEOPLE, again a difference..

As I also said have some of our fave people from the swinging community who are seasoned.. I haven't called anyone in here stupid like a few have but...

We aren't condiments

Just salty

Touché 🤣

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By *exy_Disco OP Man 9 weeks ago

Bicester

There’s a limit on posts on a thread right?

Can’t wait for this one to run out to be honest 😂

Some people offended, some not so much.

Some won’t go to certain places because of it.

Synopsis over.

Let’s move on….

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By *oldByMarCouple 9 weeks ago

playa de ingles / outa da west

"There’s a limit on posts on a thread right?

Can’t wait for this one to run out to be honest 😂

Some people offended, some not so much.

Some won’t go to certain places because of it.

Synopsis over.

Let’s move on…."

Where’s your next Gig in PDI sexy D

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By *iproperswingersCouple 9 weeks ago

Rainham

Perfectly wrote

!!!

That’s a sweeping statement. My sister and brother in law have been going there several times a year for over 50 years. They hadn’t got a clue until we told them last year.

One thing that you can say about the Scum is that they never write an “amazing piece of journalism. “

Well the last 2 years, the stories that have been wrote - have been awful and nothing but sensationalist bull crap.. but this one, apart from the nude beach comment and it being the capital of swinging.. (we all know it’s actually cap’dage) I thought it was pretty honest…

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By *iproperswingersCouple 9 weeks ago

Rainham

" The worst part was the one guy who kept talking about "40 girl orgies" ...

It’s crazy they put such a blatant lie out there like that.

There was a 40 only woman orgy at swingathon and I know that because I set it up and participated

Not in the context of the article though. That was played out to be a normal night at PDI."

Yeah - that’s why I’m pointing it out as a sensationalist piece to the article xx

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By *iproperswingersCouple 9 weeks ago

Rainham

"This has tainted the end of an amazing first trip to PDI!

I'm delighted that she (sorry I can't remember her name...must be my peri-menopause!!) feels able to shout her lifestyle from the rooftops and can understand how empowering that will feel for her.

No one has the right to 'out' anyone.

If this lady were to remove her rose tinted glasses for a moment and actually hear what people are trying to say, she may learn a thing or two about the real world we live in.

Rightly or wrongly pretty much every job within the civil service will have the same written into the contracts.

Also it's worth highlighting that it's our generation of "oldies" that paved the way for the younger generations to be so open and free.

I grew up in the 70/80s and would have had my head kicked in for being bisexual, I didn't come 'out' until the late 90s and still don't tell everyone.

As an add on I'm 53 and never used a filter in my life (probably wouldn't know how too) Our 'young' peer here doesn't seem to be able to post a picture without one! I wonder why that could be?!

"And that's all I have to say about that"

Awwwwwwww I completely respect your opinion but both our works know and are absolutely fine.. Paul’s an architectural tech for a very, very big housing company.. whom know… mine isn’t as important but being a psychology major for 11 years, the social change that has taken place the past 2 decades has just been amazing for watch…

My eldest is in college and one of his fiends mum does cam work and the other a type of adult modelling… and it isn’t even that much of a big deal.

But let’s be frank, making improvements to legal policies is tough and is going to need a lot of pressure from a significant amount of people, from different areas. Discriminatory laws need changing.. if we have people who would loose their jobs and shelter because or an alternative lifestyle; surely that’s an alarm bell no?!

This is why we need to be more open about about it as a society, bl@ckmail still happens, why abuse of power still happens

Trying to keep it swept under the rug is fine - unless it affects you personally ; which is has done for an ages now.

In- group fighting for a community like ours shouldn’t exist; when we have enough hate from the outside world

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

I don’t think the attitude’s of either of you help the situation tbh.

Yes lots will not go to swingathon or other events because of it. We know some events have already been cancelled.

Nobody wanted that or this.

We all want new people in the scene. It needs to carry on. But what was put out there is going to attract the dickheads.

Swinging is more than just sex. It is a community. Or at least there is for the people who have been in it a period of time.

If you can’t see by now the community is upset and just want to replace it with new people that says a lot more about you than everyone else on here.

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

Agree in group fighting should not happen. But it happens when people feel you have taken their choice away from them.

Nobody is disagreeing with the aim. Most will agree with you. It is just how this has been done which however honestly or not could take aways peoples choice.

That is wrong and a fundamental rule of swinging is it is your choice.

That’s the issue not the message.

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By *uittonMan 9 weeks ago

near Shaftesbury

As a silent partner of establishments for over 18 years here I can confirm a 40 girl orgy has never happened and 50% of so called British swingers never get past the socialising in the bars and clubs but love to think they are .

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By *ubbsWoman 9 weeks ago

Southsea, Portsmouth

No one needs to broadcast their sex life.

Not once have you taken on board anyone’s comments or views. People are upset and pissed off. You want to tell the world about what you get up to you crack on. That doesn’t mean I do.

The first rule of swingers is discretion. One which they clearly don’t understand.

ALL OLDER PEOPLE?

You've been very vocal and derogatory about the age of swingers when the vast demographic is over 35. You were quoted correctly. Quote frankly the comments were unnecessary.

Ok please show me where I said ALL older swingers and I will stand corrected but I know u can't so still stands. Xxxx

A simple 'Sorry I was a bit rude about the older swingers' would have done.

Happy swinging

And SOME of the older swingers maybe. I also a like a lot of them in fact have friends of many ages in the lifestyle... as they aren't like ALL OF YOU OLDIES ON HERE WHO ARE OUTRAGED

see I just said ALL then

You do know who you're talking to, right?

Is this your way of saying 'do you know who I am?'

No hun. I'm saying we've been swinging for years and know exactly how it all works, have seen many flash in the pans, liberated and all that come and go, introduced many newbies to the scene. You aren't the guru you think you are.

Please stop being derogatory and personal to people you don't know. It's not big and it's not clever, just sounds childish.

Happy swinging.

Jubbs

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By *edonandHellCouple 9 weeks ago

Stevenage old town

"As a silent partner of establishments for over 18 years here I can confirm a 40 girl orgy has never happened and 50% of so called British swingers never get past the socialising in the bars and clubs but love to think they are . "

Already been said that it was at swingathon the 40 woman orgy x

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By *iproperswingersCouple 9 weeks ago

Rainham

Yeah we already said that a few hours ago…

But at lease the rest of the article was honest

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By *chochamberWoman 9 weeks ago

Munster

Single females are not free into clubs (Secrets), €10 and 1 drink included,(another inaccuracy!).

There is an easy solution: tell friends and family, you are going to lanza or fuertaventura, or better still stop caring or telling them anything about your travels.

Stop caring, stop wrapping sexuality up in judgment.

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By *ornysquirrelMan 9 weeks ago

london

Totally missing the point to the argument.

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By *unguy0069Man 9 weeks ago

Reigate

While I am always keen to keep this life separate from my “normal” one, if somebody I knew quizzed me on the article it might well be awkward, but I’d far more horrified to discover somebody I know “reads” The Sun.

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