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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Why is this in Spanish forum "
Drrrrr, for those planning to go to GC this month, may want to know they could get stranded or can't go. Glad we had ours cancelled now! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Why is this in Spanish forum
Probably as it will likely prevent people travelling to Spain or the islands? "
Thank you, so kind of you to realise why I put this. I've read through these forums and the people who are quick to have a go and judge. The stress is coming out and we for one are pissed off we've had two holidays cancelled 
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Why is this in Spanish forum
Probably as it will likely prevent people travelling to Spain or the islands?
Thank you, so kind of you to realise why I put this. I've read through these forums and the people who are quick to have a go and judge. The stress is coming out and we for one are pissed off we've had two holidays cancelled
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For anyone whose interested it's always Nell that contributes to the forums. Ben can't be bothered with some of the bullshit that goes on here!  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I wonder if we can travel abroad if we lockdown. Spose it will depend what Boris decides."
Really? Wouldn't it defeat the object of lockdown? I'm sure non essential travel will be included in the guidelines. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"I wonder if we can travel abroad if we lockdown. Spose it will depend what Boris decides.
Really? Wouldn't it defeat the object of lockdown? I'm sure non essential travel will be included in the guidelines."
Yes it was the 'royal we'! I have no intention of going. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I wonder if we can travel abroad if we lockdown. Spose it will depend what Boris decides.
Really? Wouldn't it defeat the object of lockdown? I'm sure non essential travel will be included in the guidelines."
Just joining in your little discussion Samiss, although thought you were actually considering going for a minute. Now I know you use the royal 'we'.
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"I wonder if we can travel abroad if we lockdown. Spose it will depend what Boris decides.
Really? Wouldn't it defeat the object of lockdown? I'm sure non essential travel will be included in the guidelines.
Just joining in your little discussion Samiss, although thought you were actually considering going for a minute. Now I know you use the royal 'we'.
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Now my little secret is out  I would love to go, but I'm in a carers role at the moment and even more so with the lockdown looming |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Does that mean all holidays are off???
That was my question. It seems it won't come into force for a few days, so people can still go up until then, if they want to."
Well my question to all you fabbers is if you go will you get back? Flight times and days being reduced etc or cancelled all together considering France and Germany have locked down.
Also if you are travelling to go from say a tier 3 zone to tier 1 zone before what they predict will be tier 4 has not come into force, will people get turned away at the airport. I hope so as it's totally irresponsible in my view! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I wonder if we can travel abroad if we lockdown. Spose it will depend what Boris decides.
Really? Wouldn't it defeat the object of lockdown? I'm sure non essential travel will be included in the guidelines.
Just joining in your little discussion Samiss, although thought you were actually considering going for a minute. Now I know you use the royal 'we'.
Now my little secret is out I would love to go, but I'm in a carers role at the moment and even more so with the lockdown looming "
Busy time ahead for you then
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"We were booked to go to Cornwall in two weeks time, pretty sure that'll be binned, so sod all chance of flying to Spain or the Islands. "
Not great for us and not great for them either..lots have booked for November.. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"I wonder if we can travel abroad if we lockdown. Spose it will depend what Boris decides.
Really? Wouldn't it defeat the object of lockdown? I'm sure non essential travel will be included in the guidelines.
Just joining in your little discussion Samiss, although thought you were actually considering going for a minute. Now I know you use the royal 'we'.
Now my little secret is out I would love to go, but I'm in a carers role at the moment and even more so with the lockdown looming
Busy time ahead for you then
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I'm afraid so, but family first every time |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"We were booked to go to Cornwall in two weeks time, pretty sure that'll be binned, so sod all chance of flying to Spain or the Islands. "
You may want to reconsider, our 'r rate' is now worst in the country, it was the lowest two weeks ago!
The only hospital we have is already on black alert, 15 ambulances queued outside A&E, didn't even know we had that many in Cornwall!
Interestingly it was the lowest before the half term weeks. Went to the local beach Thursday and visitors had no idea about social distancing and have upset many by saying they have come here to get away from covid. I'm afraid it's not clever enough to stop at the border.
You are safer staying at home. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I wonder if we can travel abroad if we lockdown. Spose it will depend what Boris decides.
Really? Wouldn't it defeat the object of lockdown? I'm sure non essential travel will be included in the guidelines.
Just joining in your little discussion Samiss, although thought you were actually considering going for a minute. Now I know you use the royal 'we'.
Now my little secret is out I would love to go, but I'm in a carers role at the moment and even more so with the lockdown looming
Busy time ahead for you then
I'm afraid so, but family first every time "
Oh yes, Ben works for NHS so totally get ya |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"I wonder if we can travel abroad if we lockdown. Spose it will depend what Boris decides.
Really? Wouldn't it defeat the object of lockdown? I'm sure non essential travel will be included in the guidelines.
Just joining in your little discussion Samiss, although thought you were actually considering going for a minute. Now I know you use the royal 'we'.
Now my little secret is out I would love to go, but I'm in a carers role at the moment and even more so with the lockdown looming
Busy time ahead for you then
I'm afraid so, but family first every time
Oh yes, Ben works for NHS so totally get ya "
Well good luck to him  he's definitely got a busy time ahead |
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By *UNSUMMERMan
over a year ago
Bromsgrove / Gran Canaria |
The Government of the Canary Islands has approved a decree-law stating that tourists must provide a negative Covid-19 test to stay at accommodation on the archipelago.
Either PCR or antigen tests will be allowed as proof visitors are Covid-free, as long as they comeback negative and are taken within 72 hours of arrival, states the decree – which comes into force on November 10. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We were booked to go to Cornwall in two weeks time, pretty sure that'll be binned, so sod all chance of flying to Spain or the Islands.
You may want to reconsider, our 'r rate' is now worst in the country, it was the lowest two weeks ago!
The only hospital we have is already on black alert, 15 ambulances queued outside A&E, didn't even know we had that many in Cornwall!
Interestingly it was the lowest before the half term weeks. Went to the local beach Thursday and visitors had no idea about social distancing and have upset many by saying they have come here to get away from covid. I'm afraid it's not clever enough to stop at the border.
You are safer staying at home."
I don’t think we’ll get the choice. Our plan, even before the likely news today, was to take our own supplies down, walk the cliffs with the dog and take photos of the big seas. We had a lovely week in September, and if we’re ALL sensible we’ll have other years when we can visit. One of us is a front line Respiratory Nurse who could do with a break, but there are bigger problems ahead |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"The Government of the Canary Islands has approved a decree-law stating that tourists must provide a negative Covid-19 test to stay at accommodation on the archipelago.
Either PCR or antigen tests will be allowed as proof visitors are Covid-free, as long as they comeback negative and are taken within 72 hours of arrival, states the decree – which comes into force on November 10."
Yes but can people travel if we are in lockdown? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The Government of the Canary Islands has approved a decree-law stating that tourists must provide a negative Covid-19 test to stay at accommodation on the archipelago.
Either PCR or antigen tests will be allowed as proof visitors are Covid-free, as long as they comeback negative and are taken within 72 hours of arrival, states the decree – which comes into force on November 10.
Yes but can people travel if we are in lockdown?"
Why don’t you wait for the official announcement of what lock down two will entail? Pointless second guessing. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Why is this in Spanish forum
Probably as it will likely prevent people travelling to Spain or the islands? "
I hope travel to Spain is banned they reckon that the new covid strain has come from people returning from Spain in Germany and France probably true |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"The Government of the Canary Islands has approved a decree-law stating that tourists must provide a negative Covid-19 test to stay at accommodation on the archipelago.
Either PCR or antigen tests will be allowed as proof visitors are Covid-free, as long as they comeback negative and are taken within 72 hours of arrival, states the decree – which comes into force on November 10.
Yes but can people travel if we are in lockdown?
Why don’t you wait for the official announcement of what lock down two will entail? Pointless second guessing. "
I thought the experts would know |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Lockdown starts Thursday so fingers crossed I can still fly to Tenerife Monday x
Looks like you can, Sally, enjoy!
Thank you
So looking forward to some sunshine if it goes ahead. "
No reason why it shouldn't, I feel sorry for those who have booked from Thursday though, more cancelled holidays |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
" I feel sorry for those who have booked from Thursday though, more cancelled holidays
Yes I agree and also sorry for the hotels, bars and airlines losing their income"
Absolutely, just when things were picking up for them too |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"We were booked to go to Cornwall in two weeks time, pretty sure that'll be binned, so sod all chance of flying to Spain or the Islands.
You may want to reconsider, our 'r rate' is now worst in the country, it was the lowest two weeks ago!
The only hospital we have is already on black alert, 15 ambulances queued outside A&E, didn't even know we had that many in Cornwall!
Interestingly it was the lowest before the half term weeks. Went to the local beach Thursday and visitors had no idea about social distancing and have upset many by saying they have come here to get away from covid. I'm afraid it's not clever enough to stop at the border.
You are safer staying at home.
I don’t think we’ll get the choice. Our plan, even before the likely news today, was to take our own supplies down, walk the cliffs with the dog and take photos of the big seas. We had a lovely week in September, and if we’re ALL sensible we’ll have other years when we can visit. One of us is a front line Respiratory Nurse who could do with a break, but there are bigger problems ahead "
Sounds like you had it all sussed. Sorry you can't get that well deserved break
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We were booked to go to Cornwall in two weeks time, pretty sure that'll be binned, so sod all chance of flying to Spain or the Islands.
You may want to reconsider, our 'r rate' is now worst in the country, it was the lowest two weeks ago!
The only hospital we have is already on black alert, 15 ambulances queued outside A&E, didn't even know we had that many in Cornwall!
Interestingly it was the lowest before the half term weeks. Went to the local beach Thursday and visitors had no idea about social distancing and have upset many by saying they have come here to get away from covid. I'm afraid it's not clever enough to stop at the border.
You are safer staying at home.
I don’t think we’ll get the choice. Our plan, even before the likely news today, was to take our own supplies down, walk the cliffs with the dog and take photos of the big seas. We had a lovely week in September, and if we’re ALL sensible we’ll have other years when we can visit. One of us is a front line Respiratory Nurse who could do with a break, but there are bigger problems ahead
Sounds like you had it all sussed. Sorry you can't get that well deserved break
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There will be other weeks next year. Too much at stake at the moment |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Has anyone thought of going on holiday, catching covid and having to self isolate for two weeks ! I wouldn't fancy going anywhere "
No I hadn't thought about it we can catch Covid anywhere... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Has anyone thought of going on holiday, catching covid and having to self isolate for two weeks ! I wouldn't fancy going anywhere
No I hadn't thought about it we can catch Covid anywhere..."
If you follow the current guidelines the chance of catching COVID is minimal. You increase the risk massively by travelling abroad or within the UK. Is two weeks in the sun really worth it? Holidays will be possible if people are sensible. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Has anyone thought of going on holiday, catching covid and having to self isolate for two weeks ! I wouldn't fancy going anywhere
No I hadn't thought about it we can catch Covid anywhere...
If you follow the current guidelines the chance of catching COVID is minimal. You increase the risk massively by travelling abroad or within the UK. Is two weeks in the sun really worth it? Holidays will be possible if people are sensible. "
I follow the guidelines and have no intention of going on holiday... |
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By *rct4Man
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Has anyone thought of going on holiday, catching covid and having to self isolate for two weeks ! I wouldn't fancy going anywhere
No I hadn't thought about it we can catch Covid anywhere..."
I mean look at the mess if you get covid on holidays in rented accom and have to self isolate and can't fly home |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Has anyone thought of going on holiday, catching covid and having to self isolate for two weeks ! I wouldn't fancy going anywhere
No I hadn't thought about it we can catch Covid anywhere... I mean look at the mess if you get covid on holidays in rented accom and have to self isolate and can't fly home "
Well I wouldn't be in that position, but I doubt it would be very pleasant |
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"Has anyone thought of going on holiday, catching covid and having to self isolate for two weeks ! I wouldn't fancy going anywhere
No I hadn't thought about it we can catch Covid anywhere... I mean look at the mess if you get covid on holidays in rented accom and have to self isolate and can't fly home "
The government in the canaries will provide accommodation, food and necessary medical care if you were to get sick.
It's a moot point as you're not allowed to go during lockdown. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Has anyone thought of going on holiday, catching covid and having to self isolate for two weeks ! I wouldn't fancy going anywhere
No I hadn't thought about it we can catch Covid anywhere...
If you follow the current guidelines the chance of catching COVID is minimal. You increase the risk massively by travelling abroad or within the UK. Is two weeks in the sun really worth it? Holidays will be possible if people are sensible. "
What is massively? Can you quantity that?
For instance 44 people have been proven to have been infected through air travel and that was maily before masks. You have a 1 in 27 million chance of contracting it in this way. Gran Canaria is one of the few places green on the European traffic light system.
Now let's compare that with the state of affairs in the UK, where wearing a mask is a personal choice...
So yes I really challenge that statement. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Has anyone thought of going on holiday, catching covid and having to self isolate for two weeks ! I wouldn't fancy going anywhere
No I hadn't thought about it we can catch Covid anywhere...
If you follow the current guidelines the chance of catching COVID is minimal. You increase the risk massively by travelling abroad or within the UK. Is two weeks in the sun really worth it? Holidays will be possible if people are sensible.
What is massively? Can you quantity that?
For instance 44 people have been proven to have been infected through air travel and that was maily before masks. You have a 1 in 27 million chance of contracting it in this way. Gran Canaria is one of the few places green on the European traffic light system.
Now let's compare that with the state of affairs in the UK, where wearing a mask is a personal choice...
So yes I really challenge that statement. "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"We were booked to go to Cornwall in two weeks time, pretty sure that'll be binned, so sod all chance of flying to Spain or the Islands.
You may want to reconsider, our 'r rate' is now worst in the country, it was the lowest two weeks ago!
The only hospital we have is already on black alert, 15 ambulances queued outside A&E, didn't even know we had that many in Cornwall!
Interestingly it was the lowest before the half term weeks. Went to the local beach Thursday and visitors had no idea about social distancing and have upset many by saying they have come here to get away from covid. I'm afraid it's not clever enough to stop at the border.
You are safer staying at home.
I don’t think we’ll get the choice. Our plan, even before the likely news today, was to take our own supplies down, walk the cliffs with the dog and take photos of the big seas. We had a lovely week in September, and if we’re ALL sensible we’ll have other years when we can visit. One of us is a front line Respiratory Nurse who could do with a break, but there are bigger problems ahead
Sounds like you had it all sussed. Sorry you can't get that well deserved break
There will be other weeks next year. Too much at stake at the moment "
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"Has anyone thought of going on holiday, catching covid and having to self isolate for two weeks ! I wouldn't fancy going anywhere
No I hadn't thought about it we can catch Covid anywhere...
If you follow the current guidelines the chance of catching COVID is minimal. You increase the risk massively by travelling abroad or within the UK. Is two weeks in the sun really worth it? Holidays will be possible if people are sensible.
What is massively? Can you quantity that?
For instance 44 people have been proven to have been infected through air travel and that was maily before masks. You have a 1 in 27 million chance of contracting it in this way. Gran Canaria is one of the few places green on the European traffic light system.
Now let's compare that with the state of affairs in the UK, where wearing a mask is a personal choice...
So yes I really challenge that statement. "
Agreed, we have travelled to Greece twice and GC since March and felt very safe at the airports & during the flights, equally so when we have arrived at our destinations.
Of course, it’s personal choice whether you choose to travel or not but scaremongering doesn’t help anyone make an informed decision.  x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Has anyone thought of going on holiday, catching covid and having to self isolate for two weeks ! I wouldn't fancy going anywhere
No I hadn't thought about it we can catch Covid anywhere...
If you follow the current guidelines the chance of catching COVID is minimal. You increase the risk massively by travelling abroad or within the UK. Is two weeks in the sun really worth it? Holidays will be possible if people are sensible.
What is massively? Can you quantity that?
For instance 44 people have been proven to have been infected through air travel and that was maily before masks. You have a 1 in 27 million chance of contracting it in this way. Gran Canaria is one of the few places green on the European traffic light system.
Now let's compare that with the state of affairs in the UK, where wearing a mask is a personal choice...
So yes I really challenge that statement. "
Wearing a mask isn't a personal choice, it's mandatory unless you have medical needs. My comment was that if you follow guidelines the chances of catching COVID are minimal, if you travel anywhere, be it abroad or in the UK you're increasing your chances of catching it. Maybe MASSIVELY was a wrong word, but I stand by my comment. I'm not really looking to get into a row with the experts on Spanish holiday. Stay safe one 'n all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Has anyone thought of going on holiday, catching covid and having to self isolate for two weeks ! I wouldn't fancy going anywhere
No I hadn't thought about it we can catch Covid anywhere...
If you follow the current guidelines the chance of catching COVID is minimal. You increase the risk massively by travelling abroad or within the UK. Is two weeks in the sun really worth it? Holidays will be possible if people are sensible.
What is massively? Can you quantity that?
For instance 44 people have been proven to have been infected through air travel and that was maily before masks. You have a 1 in 27 million chance of contracting it in this way. Gran Canaria is one of the few places green on the European traffic light system.
Now let's compare that with the state of affairs in the UK, where wearing a mask is a personal choice...
So yes I really challenge that statement.
Wearing a mask isn't a personal choice, it's mandatory unless you have medical needs. My comment was that if you follow guidelines the chances of catching COVID are minimal, if you travel anywhere, be it abroad or in the UK you're increasing your chances of catching it. Maybe MASSIVELY was a wrong word, but I stand by my comment. I'm not really looking to get into a row with the experts on Spanish holiday. Stay safe one 'n all. "
Ok let me put it another way.
I went for my monthly shop in Sainsbury's on Friday and some dude did his entire shop with a chin hammock. No one pulled him up on it. In GC he'd be in the back of a police car.
GC has an infection rate of less than 20 per 100 000 whereas some parts of the UK are way over 400 per 100 000. Airports are practically empty, planes flying with rows of empty seats, strict mask enforcement etc.
Look not to the holiday from a "green" area to give you Covid-19. Look to the schoolkid walking through your door... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As a result of Brexit there are a lot of people looking to obtain residencia in GC right now.
To say wait until 2 December puts them against the Christmas holidays. A failed application at this point puts them into needing to resubmit outside of the 31 December 2020 transition period.
If lockdown is extended on 2 December (which in my opinion is a certainty since it takes 3 weeks for the curve to flatten) then people wanting to apply for residencia are screwed.
An obvious solution would be to extend the transition period because of Covid-19. But since this is a legal impossibility, people are going to be flying to GC for emigration purposes. |
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By *rct4Man
over a year ago
Manchester |
"Has anyone thought of going on holiday, catching covid and having to self isolate for two weeks ! I wouldn't fancy going anywhere
No I hadn't thought about it we can catch Covid anywhere...
If you follow the current guidelines the chance of catching COVID is minimal. You increase the risk massively by travelling abroad or within the UK. Is two weeks in the sun really worth it? Holidays will be possible if people are sensible.
What is massively? Can you quantity that?
For instance 44 people have been proven to have been infected through air travel and that was maily before masks. You have a 1 in 27 million chance of contracting it in this way. Gran Canaria is one of the few places green on the European traffic light system.
Now let's compare that with the state of affairs in the UK, where wearing a mask is a personal choice...
So yes I really challenge that statement.
Agreed, we have travelled to Greece twice and GC since March and felt very safe at the airports & during the flights, equally so when we have arrived at our destinations.
Of course, it’s personal choice whether you choose to travel or not but scaremongering doesn’t help anyone make an informed decision. x"
I'm not trying to scare but if you remember back to when it started uk citizens were on the phone crying from different destinations wanting to come home but were stuck in eaitger their hotel or cruise becouse covid hot them hard and had to stay in a room. Personally I'd love to go for a holiday and yes I believe it's not as bad in some counties |
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