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"Well, the first 14 days will be in quarantine! Spanish government just announced a similar scheme to the UK (published in the BOE). Possible by October it has changed though...." Perhaps the penny will drop with some people now....well done to the Canaries for controlling things...but the tourists won't be back, in numbers, for a long time yet | |||
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"Well, the first 14 days will be in quarantine! Spanish government just announced a similar scheme to the UK (published in the BOE). Possible by October it has changed though...." As the BOE says only till the end of spain's state of alarm. What a waste of time even adding it. It will be took off in a few weeks | |||
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"Well, the first 14 days will be in quarantine! Spanish government just announced a similar scheme to the UK (published in the BOE). Possible by October it has changed though.... As the BOE says only till the end of spain's state of alarm. What a waste of time even adding it. It will be took off in a few weeks" So presumably until the end of phase 3 in all provinces, unless they allow asymmetry. So maybe June/July. However this bit - "Travel agencies, tour operators and transport companies must inform travelers of these measures at the beginning of the ticket sales process to Spain. " sadly makes me think it could be in place for a while... EU meeting this week... | |||
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"We could be locked in la mirage for 11 days , take that 11 days of naked sun at least " Sounds good | |||
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"We could be locked in la mirage for 11 days , take that 11 days of naked sun at least Sounds good " Doesn't it just | |||
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"We could be locked in la mirage for 11 days , take that 11 days of naked sun at least " and then 2 weeks self quarantine when you arrive back in UK....we'll pass thanks | |||
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"We could be locked in la mirage for 11 days , take that 11 days of naked sun at least and then 2 weeks self quarantine when you arrive back in UK....we'll pass thanks " Trying to be optimistic here ,things may have changed by then lets face it , its changing every week | |||
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"That’s what we have resigned our selves to especially after Matt Hancocks statement today saying no foreign travel this year" Depending on what press you believe... Matt Hancock said "no foreign travel this summer" IF .. the flight's go, GC and LM are open we'll be going | |||
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"That’s what we have resigned our selves to especially after Matt Hancocks statement today saying no foreign travel this year Depending on what press you believe... Matt Hancock said "no foreign travel this summer" IF .. the flight's go, GC and LM are open we'll be going " I don’t think it will be much fun. Unless you want to mix with a minority of others who to don’t care about their health! You can guarantee the wanking dead will resurface, if that’s your thing | |||
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"That’s what we have resigned our selves to especially after Matt Hancocks statement today saying no foreign travel this year Depending on what press you believe... Matt Hancock said "no foreign travel this summer" IF .. the flight's go, GC and LM are open we'll be going I don’t think it will be much fun. Unless you want to mix with a minority of others who to don’t care about their health! You can guarantee the wanking dead will resurface, if that’s your thing " Does a holiday in Gc have to involve sex? And for future reference... where can we find the wanking dead? Like we said IF the flight's go .. think that will be the biggest issue. | |||
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"Nice to see so many positive people. Luckily we live here and read the governments info. Not second hand info. October looks like it’s going to be a busy month (depending on how the Uk airlines) Controls are temporarily reestablished at the internal air and sea borders in Spain from 00:00 on May 15th, 2020 until 00:00 May 24th 2020 (end of state of alarm). Only the following persons will be allowed to enter the national territory by air and by sea: a) Spanish citizens. b) Residents in Spain, having to prove their usual residence. c) Cross-border workers. d) Health or elderly care professionals who go to exercise their work activity. e) Those that document justified reasons or situation of need. Read here more information in the BOE released today: https://www.boe.es/boe/dias/2020/05/12/pdfs/BOE-A-2020-4929.pdf Also, BOE from 8th May extending land borders controls, also until 24th May https://www.boe.es/boe/dias/2020/05/09/pdfs/BOE-A-2020-4900.pdf" | |||
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"That’s what we have resigned our selves to especially after Matt Hancocks statement today saying no foreign travel this year Depending on what press you believe... Matt Hancock said "no foreign travel this summer" IF .. the flight's go, GC and LM are open we'll be going I don’t think it will be much fun. Unless you want to mix with a minority of others who to don’t care about their health! You can guarantee the wanking dead will resurface, if that’s your thing Does a holiday in Gc have to involve sex? And for future reference... where can we find the wanking dead? Like we said IF the flight's go .. think that will be the biggest issue." We will go if its safe, and as you say its not all about playing, the sun, the banter , the booze and chilling out | |||
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"That’s what we have resigned our selves to especially after Matt Hancocks statement today saying no foreign travel this year Depending on what press you believe... Matt Hancock said "no foreign travel this summer" IF .. the flight's go, GC and LM are open we'll be going I don’t think it will be much fun. Unless you want to mix with a minority of others who to don’t care about their health! You can guarantee the wanking dead will resurface, if that’s your thing Does a holiday in Gc have to involve sex? And for future reference... where can we find the wanking dead? Like we said IF the flight's go .. think that will be the biggest issue." Sorry if I misread your post but going to GC and staying at LM would indicate a sex tourist... As for the wanking dead, they hang out in the clubs and dunes wondering aimlessly here and there usually wanking at the same time. | |||
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"That’s what we have resigned our selves to especially after Matt Hancocks statement today saying no foreign travel this year Depending on what press you believe... Matt Hancock said "no foreign travel this summer" IF .. the flight's go, GC and LM are open we'll be going I don’t think it will be much fun. Unless you want to mix with a minority of others who to don’t care about their health! You can guarantee the wanking dead will resurface, if that’s your thing Does a holiday in Gc have to involve sex? And for future reference... where can we find the wanking dead? Like we said IF the flight's go .. think that will be the biggest issue. We will go if its safe, and as you say its not all about playing, the sun, the banter , the booze and chilling out " What about the flight there? Sharing a cabin with 160 other people in recirculated air for 4.5 hours. No social distancing. The plane will be a nightmare. | |||
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"That’s what we have resigned our selves to especially after Matt Hancocks statement today saying no foreign travel this year Depending on what press you believe... Matt Hancock said "no foreign travel this summer" IF .. the flight's go, GC and LM are open we'll be going I don’t think it will be much fun. Unless you want to mix with a minority of others who to don’t care about their health! You can guarantee the wanking dead will resurface, if that’s your thing Does a holiday in Gc have to involve sex? And for future reference... where can we find the wanking dead? Like we said IF the flight's go .. think that will be the biggest issue. Sorry if I misread your post but going to GC and staying at LM would indicate a sex tourist... As for the wanking dead, they hang out in the clubs and dunes wondering aimlessly here and there usually wanking at the same time. " You didn't miss read the post, just assumed we're sex tourist's We love Amsterdam but don't smoke ! But we did know about the wanking dead lol, we've never been to the dunes and stay away from the clubs with the wanking dead clientele | |||
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"That’s what we have resigned our selves to especially after Matt Hancocks statement today saying no foreign travel this year Depending on what press you believe... Matt Hancock said "no foreign travel this summer" IF .. the flight's go, GC and LM are open we'll be going I don’t think it will be much fun. Unless you want to mix with a minority of others who to don’t care about their health! You can guarantee the wanking dead will resurface, if that’s your thing Does a holiday in Gc have to involve sex? And for future reference... where can we find the wanking dead? Like we said IF the flight's go .. think that will be the biggest issue. Sorry if I misread your post but going to GC and staying at LM would indicate a sex tourist... As for the wanking dead, they hang out in the clubs and dunes wondering aimlessly here and there usually wanking at the same time. You didn't miss read the post, just assumed we're sex tourist's We love Amsterdam but don't smoke ! But we did know about the wanking dead lol, we've never been to the dunes and stay away from the clubs with the wanking dead clientele " I agree about Amsterdam. However if you said you were going to Amsterdam to sample the cafe culture then I would assume you are going for a smoke. Just like if visiting GC and staying at La Mirage as you stated you were, then one would assume you were not just there for the sun sea and Tropical ! | |||
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"Some facts on aircraft‘s 1, Fliters, According to the company’s they fitter 99.8% of all viruses and bacteria from inside the cabin. 2, there is a strong vertical (going from high to low) airflow. So you’re breathing air that comes from above you. What you breathe out dispenses out near your feet. So there is no horizontal airflow going around in the cabin. " Ok so flying is safe. | |||
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"Much safer than going to the supermarket. I take it you do go shopping? Have a great few days all, I’m going to enjoy the pubs and beach and stay away from the internet experts " Social distancing is the main issue on planes...I think many would argue the supermarket is safer than an aircraft. There are internet experts and there are people with common sense. | |||
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"Much safer than going to the supermarket. I take it you do go shopping? Have a great few days all, I’m going to enjoy the pubs and beach and stay away from the internet experts " | |||
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"Some facts on aircraft‘s 1, Fliters, According to the company’s they fitter 99.8% of all viruses and bacteria from inside the cabin. 2, there is a strong vertical (going from high to low) airflow. So you’re breathing air that comes from above you. What you breathe out dispenses out near your feet. So there is no horizontal airflow going around in the cabin. " I read an article that suggested that when airports open up you will probably need to get to the airport 4 hours ahead of flying in order to be tested before flying. Don't know how long it will take to organize this, if it happens at all. As for PDI being busy... you will have: 1 Pride moved to October 2 Freedom week 3 All the swingers who come in for October. 4 All the people who would have gone earlier in the year but were given vouchers. 5 Usual October tourists. 6 People arriving early for Winter Pride | |||
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"When October comes and goes, I won't say I told you so....but if the idiot that thinks just because GC is doing so well, it's safe to recommence tourism would actually think things through, they'd see how delusional they are. No on the spot tests, only temperature checks at airports, asymptomatic carriers, no social distancing on planes etc etc etc Remember, the outbreak in GC(such as it was) started with one person, whose travel partners made it to the airport, before being stopped....and you know the rest. ALL countries that have relaxed restrictions are seeing new cases....why? because the virus hasn't gone away. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it....will you ever admit you were wrong? I don't think so....remember the comments "everything will be normal by April...May at the latest" ? " There's many a twist twixt the cuff and the wrist. We are only three months in and look how much things have changed. Not even at the half way mark. | |||
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"Some facts on aircraft‘s 1, Fliters, According to the company’s they fitter 99.8% of all viruses and bacteria from inside the cabin. 2, there is a strong vertical (going from high to low) airflow. So you’re breathing air that comes from above you. What you breathe out dispenses out near your feet. So there is no horizontal airflow going around in the cabin. I read an article that suggested that when airports open up you will probably need to get to the airport 4 hours ahead of flying in order to be tested before flying. Don't know how long it will take to organize this, if it happens at all. As for PDI being busy... you will have: 1 Pride moved to October 2 Freedom week 3 All the swingers who come in for October. 4 All the people who would have gone earlier in the year but were given vouchers. 5 Usual October tourists. 6 People arriving early for Winter Pride" and you believe all that, honestly? There is no test available at airports, other than a temperature check....the 'suggested' 4 hours was only with regards to observing social distancing through security. 12000 job losses at BA, 3000 at Ryanair, 8000 at TUI, Virgin etc etc, who's going to be flying anyhow? People need to stop reading what they want to read and start looking at the very stark reality of it all. Germany new cases rising, China new cases rising(probably far more than they will admit) and Italy/UK will be the same once their restrictions are eased....it has always been expected thst a second wave will come when 'flu season' arrives....which is when? Oh yes...October!! We have friends on the front line, stand opposite them and tell them you'll be going on your holidays in October... | |||
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"Some facts on aircraft‘s 1, Fliters, According to the company’s they fitter 99.8% of all viruses and bacteria from inside the cabin. 2, there is a strong vertical (going from high to low) airflow. So you’re breathing air that comes from above you. What you breathe out dispenses out near your feet. So there is no horizontal airflow going around in the cabin. I read an article that suggested that when airports open up you will probably need to get to the airport 4 hours ahead of flying in order to be tested before flying. Don't know how long it will take to organize this, if it happens at all. As for PDI being busy... you will have: 1 Pride moved to October 2 Freedom week 3 All the swingers who come in for October. 4 All the people who would have gone earlier in the year but were given vouchers. 5 Usual October tourists. 6 People arriving early for Winter Pride and you believe all that, honestly? There is no test available at airports, other than a temperature check....the 'suggested' 4 hours was only with regards to observing social distancing through security. 12000 job losses at BA, 3000 at Ryanair, 8000 at TUI, Virgin etc etc, who's going to be flying anyhow? People need to stop reading what they want to read and start looking at the very stark reality of it all. Germany new cases rising, China new cases rising(probably far more than they will admit) and Italy/UK will be the same once their restrictions are eased....it has always been expected thst a second wave will come when 'flu season' arrives....which is when? Oh yes...October!! We have friends on the front line, stand opposite them and tell them you'll be going on your holidays in October... " No what we said was that we would like to go in October like everyone else if its safe , the whole world doesn't know what will happen by august never mind october Yes its unlikely but you have to remain optimistic . Before people rant on here about anything or anyone they should read what said 1st,its like most of the people on here read profile and not the pics folks | |||
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"Some facts on aircraft‘s 1, Fliters, According to the company’s they fitter 99.8% of all viruses and bacteria from inside the cabin. 2, there is a strong vertical (going from high to low) airflow. So you’re breathing air that comes from above you. What you breathe out dispenses out near your feet. So there is no horizontal airflow going around in the cabin. I read an article that suggested that when airports open up you will probably need to get to the airport 4 hours ahead of flying in order to be tested before flying. Don't know how long it will take to organize this, if it happens at all. As for PDI being busy... you will have: 1 Pride moved to October 2 Freedom week 3 All the swingers who come in for October. 4 All the people who would have gone earlier in the year but were given vouchers. 5 Usual October tourists. 6 People arriving early for Winter Pride and you believe all that, honestly? There is no test available at airports, other than a temperature check....the 'suggested' 4 hours was only with regards to observing social distancing through security. 12000 job losses at BA, 3000 at Ryanair, 8000 at TUI, Virgin etc etc, who's going to be flying anyhow? People need to stop reading what they want to read and start looking at the very stark reality of it all. Germany new cases rising, China new cases rising(probably far more than they will admit) and Italy/UK will be the same once their restrictions are eased....it has always been expected thst a second wave will come when 'flu season' arrives....which is when? Oh yes...October!! We have friends on the front line, stand opposite them and tell them you'll be going on your holidays in October... No what we said was that we would like to go in October like everyone else if its safe , the whole world doesn't know what will happen by august never mind october Yes its unlikely but you have to remain optimistic . Before people rant on here about anything or anyone they should read what said 1st,its like most of the people on here read profile and not the pics folks " I was actually replying the the guy I quoted? Another update paraphrased below from GC source, to follow forum rules The Gran Canaria tourism minister has stated in an interview that he does not expect international tourism to return until the end of 2020 and into 2021 at the earliest. Any significant visitor numbers this year will be from other Canary Islands and from Spain. He ended by saying there will hardly be any tourists this year | |||
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"I predict a lot of very disappointed people, looking for refunds come October...and with no travel insurance cover(if not coveredin other ways). All the signs are there...Government extending Job Retention Scheme until the END of October. No vaccine, no unrestricted travel... airlines may well start flights but with quarantine periods both ends, what's the point? We are hopeful, that maybe this time next year, things will have more of a semblance of normality(vaccine dependent of course) " Full agree with your views. It looks like it will be the car and ferry to spain for me if I decided to go Autumn | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. " That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet | |||
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"Some facts on aircraft‘s 1, Fliters, According to the company’s they fitter 99.8% of all viruses and bacteria from inside the cabin. 2, there is a strong vertical (going from high to low) airflow. So you’re breathing air that comes from above you. What you breathe out dispenses out near your feet. So there is no horizontal airflow going around in the cabin. I read an article that suggested that when airports open up you will probably need to get to the airport 4 hours ahead of flying in order to be tested before flying. Don't know how long it will take to organize this, if it happens at all. As for PDI being busy... you will have: 1 Pride moved to October 2 Freedom week 3 All the swingers who come in for October. 4 All the people who would have gone earlier in the year but were given vouchers. 5 Usual October tourists. 6 People arriving early for Winter Pride and you believe all that, honestly? There is no test available at airports, other than a temperature check....the 'suggested' 4 hours was only with regards to observing social distancing through security. 12000 job losses at BA, 3000 at Ryanair, 8000 at TUI, Virgin etc etc, who's going to be flying anyhow? People need to stop reading what they want to read and start looking at the very stark reality of it all. Germany new cases rising, China new cases rising(probably far more than they will admit) and Italy/UK will be the same once their restrictions are eased....it has always been expected thst a second wave will come when 'flu season' arrives....which is when? Oh yes...October!! We have friends on the front line, stand opposite them and tell them you'll be going on your holidays in October... " I would agree with all of that except for one thing. In Germany new infections are not rising. The current 7 day average for new infections is 880. The previous 7 day average was 1013, and the one before that 1637. The only thing of concern is the "R" number which has risen slightly. However that is based on a ratio between new infections and active cases. Because the rate of active cases (down from 36,000 to 16,000 in the last 14 days) has dropped faster than the new infection rate it gives a slightly skewed "R" number. | |||
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"Some facts on aircraft‘s 1, Fliters, According to the company’s they fitter 99.8% of all viruses and bacteria from inside the cabin. 2, there is a strong vertical (going from high to low) airflow. So you’re breathing air that comes from above you. What you breathe out dispenses out near your feet. So there is no horizontal airflow going around in the cabin. I read an article that suggested that when airports open up you will probably need to get to the airport 4 hours ahead of flying in order to be tested before flying. Don't know how long it will take to organize this, if it happens at all. As for PDI being busy... you will have: 1 Pride moved to October 2 Freedom week 3 All the swingers who come in for October. 4 All the people who would have gone earlier in the year but were given vouchers. 5 Usual October tourists. 6 People arriving early for Winter Pride and you believe all that, honestly? There is no test available at airports, other than a temperature check....the 'suggested' 4 hours was only with regards to observing social distancing through security. 12000 job losses at BA, 3000 at Ryanair, 8000 at TUI, Virgin etc etc, who's going to be flying anyhow? People need to stop reading what they want to read and start looking at the very stark reality of it all. Germany new cases rising, China new cases rising(probably far more than they will admit) and Italy/UK will be the same once their restrictions are eased....it has always been expected thst a second wave will come when 'flu season' arrives....which is when? Oh yes...October!! We have friends on the front line, stand opposite them and tell them you'll be going on your holidays in October... No what we said was that we would like to go in October like everyone else if its safe , the whole world doesn't know what will happen by august never mind october Yes its unlikely but you have to remain optimistic . Before people rant on here about anything or anyone they should read what said 1st,its like most of the people on here read profile and not the pics folks I was actually replying the the guy I quoted? Another update paraphrased below from GC source, to follow forum rules The Gran Canaria tourism minister has stated in an interview that he does not expect international tourism to return until the end of 2020 and into 2021 at the earliest. Any significant visitor numbers this year will be from other Canary Islands and from Spain. He ended by saying there will hardly be any tourists this year " I'm just commenting on what a journalist proposes. This is what the situation MAY be in four or five months time. I read the GC online periodical and am following the politics of Pride being held at the same time as freedom week and it's different organisations. We have booked flights and a villa for the first two weeks but haven't booked accommodation for the rest of the month. Right now booking prices are rock bottom but I'm taking a wait and see approach. I am not naive, I was the first person on this forum to post about covid and spent two months convincing people it wasn't a conspiracy theory. At the same time GC has announced that their economy can't afford to be closed for October. | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet " To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October | |||
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"Some facts on aircraft‘s 1, Fliters, According to the company’s they fitter 99.8% of all viruses and bacteria from inside the cabin. 2, there is a strong vertical (going from high to low) airflow. So you’re breathing air that comes from above you. What you breathe out dispenses out near your feet. So there is no horizontal airflow going around in the cabin. I read an article that suggested that when airports open up you will probably need to get to the airport 4 hours ahead of flying in order to be tested before flying. Don't know how long it will take to organize this, if it happens at all. As for PDI being busy... you will have: 1 Pride moved to October 2 Freedom week 3 All the swingers who come in for October. 4 All the people who would have gone earlier in the year but were given vouchers. 5 Usual October tourists. 6 People arriving early for Winter Pride and you believe all that, honestly? There is no test available at airports, other than a temperature check....the 'suggested' 4 hours was only with regards to observing social distancing through security. 12000 job losses at BA, 3000 at Ryanair, 8000 at TUI, Virgin etc etc, who's going to be flying anyhow? People need to stop reading what they want to read and start looking at the very stark reality of it all. Germany new cases rising, China new cases rising(probably far more than they will admit) and Italy/UK will be the same once their restrictions are eased....it has always been expected thst a second wave will come when 'flu season' arrives....which is when? Oh yes...October!! We have friends on the front line, stand opposite them and tell them you'll be going on your holidays in October... I would agree with all of that except for one thing. In Germany new infections are not rising. The current 7 day average for new infections is 880. The previous 7 day average was 1013, and the one before that 1637. The only thing of concern is the "R" number which has risen slightly. However that is based on a ratio between new infections and active cases. Because the rate of active cases (down from 36,000 to 16,000 in the last 14 days) has dropped faster than the new infection rate it gives a slightly skewed "R" number." I have thread on here discussing the effect if Vitamin D on the virus. Some parts of the world have as low a 5% asymptomatic while some parts have as high as 80% asymptomatic. By and large this follows a regime of sunlight. Since most of us are out in the sun all day in GC in October it might be a case of the virus neing spread but not having much effect. Might. | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October " I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? | |||
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"Is a holiday any where realy worth it, with most european countries going back in to lock down, and England lifting restrictions knowing this, surely as sensible human beings our health and life is more prescous." You're applying and action now to a situation in four months time. We haven't even had the virus here for four months. Just remember Wuhan went from large death toll to 0 infections in 3 months. | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched?" Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched | |||
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"We could be locked in la mirage for 11 days , take that 11 days of naked sun at least " Take in to account the 14 day quarantine that will no doubt still be in place, so no 11 day holidays. Also 14 days locked inside, as we can't see folk been allowed out. When Malta kicked in their 14 day period we heard of people having to pay extra for hotels as they'd only booked a week when it kicked in. Also confined to their rooms with food been brought to them. Don't see these rules been any different elsewhere at the minute. | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched " I don't think having a laboratory at an airport is that far fetched at all. As it is incoming passengers have been known to be pulled over for chest Xrays for TB. I don't see anything that stops this happening. | |||
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"We could be locked in la mirage for 11 days , take that 11 days of naked sun at least Take in to account the 14 day quarantine that will no doubt still be in place, so no 11 day holidays. Also 14 days locked inside, as we can't see folk been allowed out. When Malta kicked in their 14 day period we heard of people having to pay extra for hotels as they'd only booked a week when it kicked in. Also confined to their rooms with food been brought to them. Don't see these rules been any different elsewhere at the minute. " Things might change in 4 months. If they don't we will have to move our holiday. That won't be the end of the world either. This really is a case of wait and see. | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched I don't think having a laboratory at an airport is that far fetched at all. As it is incoming passengers have been known to be pulled over for chest Xrays for TB. I don't see anything that stops this happening. " Are you actually serious? | |||
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"Have to look on the bright side, last week no one allowed. Now allowed with 14 days in lockdown, so heading the right way. See what happens in a few weeks. " But why would anyone want to be locked down for the duration of their holiday, I'd rather be at home, than shut in a hotel 24/7 | |||
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"If we can add our pennies worth. One thing that’s been overlooked by everyone. Your Travel insurance with not cover you for anything Covid related since Mid March. Just imagine you get to your Holiday Destination then get the Virus. You do Immediate medical cover free when Travelling within the EU. But that is it, extra expenses, hotel for partner, return flights home. COMPUTER SAYS NO. STAY AT HOME AND PROTECT YOUR WALLETT " Excellent point | |||
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"If we can add our pennies worth. One thing that’s been overlooked by everyone. Your Travel insurance with not cover you for anything Covid related since Mid March. Just imagine you get to your Holiday Destination then get the Virus. You do Immediate medical cover free when Travelling within the EU. But that is it, extra expenses, hotel for partner, return flights home. COMPUTER SAYS NO. STAY AT HOME AND PROTECT YOUR WALLETT " Likely to be true for most but if you bought your travel insurance before all this(we buy a yearly policy each October) then you may still be covered. Holiday insurance less likely to be used for something like cancellations, as other means may cover it, such as refunds from airlines/holiday companies/credit cards | |||
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"If we can add our pennies worth. One thing that’s been overlooked by everyone. Your Travel insurance with not cover you for anything Covid related since Mid March. Just imagine you get to your Holiday Destination then get the Virus. You do Immediate medical cover free when Travelling within the EU. But that is it, extra expenses, hotel for partner, return flights home. COMPUTER SAYS NO. STAY AT HOME AND PROTECT YOUR WALLETT Likely to be true for most but if you bought your travel insurance before all this(we buy a yearly policy each October) then you may still be covered. Holiday insurance less likely to be used for something like cancellations, as other means may cover it, such as refunds from airlines/holiday companies/credit cards " Something to check mines linked to my bank account. | |||
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"If we can add our pennies worth. One thing that’s been overlooked by everyone. Your Travel insurance with not cover you for anything Covid related since Mid March. Just imagine you get to your Holiday Destination then get the Virus. You do Immediate medical cover free when Travelling within the EU. But that is it, extra expenses, hotel for partner, return flights home. COMPUTER SAYS NO. STAY AT HOME AND PROTECT YOUR WALLETT " Good point. Some people are prepared to go on holiday with no insurance so they won’t care. But for those who do take out cover it will be a big worry and probably enough to prevent them from wanting to go. The other is if you do catch C19 and are showing symptoms you won’t even be allowed on your scheduled flight home. | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched I don't think having a laboratory at an airport is that far fetched at all. As it is incoming passengers have been known to be pulled over for chest Xrays for TB. I don't see anything that stops this happening. Are you actually serious? " Ridicule makes for a poor counter argument. | |||
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"If we can add our pennies worth. One thing that’s been overlooked by everyone. Your Travel insurance with not cover you for anything Covid related since Mid March. Just imagine you get to your Holiday Destination then get the Virus. You do Immediate medical cover free when Travelling within the EU. But that is it, extra expenses, hotel for partner, return flights home. COMPUTER SAYS NO. STAY AT HOME AND PROTECT YOUR WALLETT Good point. Some people are prepared to go on holiday with no insurance so they won’t care. But for those who do take out cover it will be a big worry and probably enough to prevent them from wanting to go. The other is if you do catch C19 and are showing symptoms you won’t even be allowed on your scheduled flight home." Yes, that's another worry. Best to check insurance policies to clarify. I would imagine any new policies won't cover the virus. | |||
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"Have to look on the bright side, last week no one allowed. Now allowed with 14 days in lockdown, so heading the right way. See what happens in a few weeks. " Like that approach | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched I don't think having a laboratory at an airport is that far fetched at all. As it is incoming passengers have been known to be pulled over for chest Xrays for TB. I don't see anything that stops this happening. Are you actually serious? Ridicule makes for a poor counter argument. " Say something ridiculous...expect ridicule...simples | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched I don't think having a laboratory at an airport is that far fetched at all. As it is incoming passengers have been known to be pulled over for chest Xrays for TB. I don't see anything that stops this happening. Are you actually serious? Ridicule makes for a poor counter argument. Say something ridiculous...expect ridicule...simples " I'm not going to argue your point. I'm just going to decide it's redicilous and then ask if you are serious. Are you serious!!!!???? Wow it's easy being you! | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched I don't think having a laboratory at an airport is that far fetched at all. As it is incoming passengers have been known to be pulled over for chest Xrays for TB. I don't see anything that stops this happening. Are you actually serious? Ridicule makes for a poor counter argument. Say something ridiculous...expect ridicule...simples I'm not going to argue your point. I'm just going to decide it's redicilous and then ask if you are serious. Are you serious!!!!???? Wow it's easy being you! " Facile is as facile does.....time will tell....but then no doubt you'll not be about to acknowledge the obvious | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched I don't think having a laboratory at an airport is that far fetched at all. As it is incoming passengers have been known to be pulled over for chest Xrays for TB. I don't see anything that stops this happening. Are you actually serious? Ridicule makes for a poor counter argument. Say something ridiculous...expect ridicule...simples I'm not going to argue your point. I'm just going to decide it's redicilous and then ask if you are serious. Are you serious!!!!???? Wow it's easy being you! Facile is as facile does.....time will tell....but then no doubt you'll not be about to acknowledge the obvious " All I did was ask for reasons why what I suggested were impossible. Instead of providing those reasons which should be easy if what I suggest is so far fetched. Instead you hung a label on it, something any fool could do. These ideas are not my own, they are too redicilous to propse on a swingers forum but clearly not redicilous enough to be suggested by a journalist and published. Of course I only need to go back to February to provide examples of how people thought I was redicilous to suggest COVID-19 would have an impact on our day to day lives. I'm not predicting the future just a possibility of a solution that would make international travel much safer. | |||
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"Back to OP question.... I think if you really want to go to a swinging club in October you have a much better chance in GC than in the UK. I may be wrong but I think this time next year the UK clubs will still be off limits. We all know how much trouble they have getting a licence from the local councils. " Must admit , you do have a point , but would it be safe thats another point, if and its a big if, no outbreak in gc and only small in uk , then we would consider going to a club in GC | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched I don't think having a laboratory at an airport is that far fetched at all. As it is incoming passengers have been known to be pulled over for chest Xrays for TB. I don't see anything that stops this happening. Are you actually serious? Ridicule makes for a poor counter argument. Say something ridiculous...expect ridicule...simples I'm not going to argue your point. I'm just going to decide it's redicilous and then ask if you are serious. Are you serious!!!!???? Wow it's easy being you! Facile is as facile does.....time will tell....but then no doubt you'll not be about to acknowledge the obvious " And if he’s not, will it have affected you? I’ll answer for you.......no it won’t. Now shush you are just making yourself look a bell end with your constant arguing and attempting to ridicule and belittle anyone who disagrees with you. Quite happy to risk a ban for telling the truth. | |||
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"As ever with these threads we end up with ill-informed and aggressive arguments-that provide little info and little room for discussion.A family member is an aviation specialist and the bottom line is that everything hinges on the ability of airlines and airports to agree on the procedures and policies to manage passengers. This will involve the sanitizing of all hold luggage, a ban on any cabin baggage, severe reduction in seat numbers on-board the aircraft. Plus; temperature checks at airports, measures to maintain 2 metre social distancing and quarantining on arrival at the destination airport. Negotiations are on going and are nowhere near being resolved - and all the press statements from airlines about resuming flights soon are therefore meaningless. The airline industry is predicting that it will take 3 years to recover from this...at least. " Best to stay at home for the foreseeable | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched I don't think having a laboratory at an airport is that far fetched at all. As it is incoming passengers have been known to be pulled over for chest Xrays for TB. I don't see anything that stops this happening. Are you actually serious? Ridicule makes for a poor counter argument. Say something ridiculous...expect ridicule...simples I'm not going to argue your point. I'm just going to decide it's redicilous and then ask if you are serious. Are you serious!!!!???? Wow it's easy being you! Facile is as facile does.....time will tell....but then no doubt you'll not be about to acknowledge the obvious All I did was ask for reasons why what I suggested were impossible. Instead of providing those reasons which should be easy if what I suggest is so far fetched. Instead you hung a label on it, something any fool could do. These ideas are not my own, they are too redicilous to propse on a swingers forum but clearly not redicilous enough to be suggested by a journalist and published. Of course I only need to go back to February to provide examples of how people thought I was redicilous to suggest COVID-19 would have an impact on our day to day lives. I'm not predicting the future just a possibility of a solution that would make international travel much safer." I answered, you just chose to counter with more ridiculous assertions, that have zero founding. But hey ho, freedom of speech and all that....fill your boots. The serial slaggers have joined in to give you 'big boy' support anyhow.....yet none offer any argument that has any semblance of the reality that we are living. Enjoy the party in GC, in July/August/September/October... whatever month you believe you'll be there | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched I don't think having a laboratory at an airport is that far fetched at all. As it is incoming passengers have been known to be pulled over for chest Xrays for TB. I don't see anything that stops this happening. Are you actually serious? Ridicule makes for a poor counter argument. Say something ridiculous...expect ridicule...simples I'm not going to argue your point. I'm just going to decide it's redicilous and then ask if you are serious. Are you serious!!!!???? Wow it's easy being you! Facile is as facile does.....time will tell....but then no doubt you'll not be about to acknowledge the obvious All I did was ask for reasons why what I suggested were impossible. Instead of providing those reasons which should be easy if what I suggest is so far fetched. Instead you hung a label on it, something any fool could do. These ideas are not my own, they are too redicilous to propse on a swingers forum but clearly not redicilous enough to be suggested by a journalist and published. Of course I only need to go back to February to provide examples of how people thought I was redicilous to suggest COVID-19 would have an impact on our day to day lives. I'm not predicting the future just a possibility of a solution that would make international travel much safer. I answered, you just chose to counter with more ridiculous assertions, that have zero founding. But hey ho, freedom of speech and all that....fill your boots. The serial slaggers have joined in to give you 'big boy' support anyhow.....yet none offer any argument that has any semblance of the reality that we are living. Enjoy the party in GC, in July/August/September/October... whatever month you believe you'll be there " Oh really. Please look back on this thread. I wrote: "I don't see anything that stops this happening" Apart from saying it's redicilous (which not a fact, simply your point of view) you have not provided one single thing that stops this from happening. Clearly your condescending and patronising attitude is irritating to others on this thread. This is not their fault. I have clearly stated my holiday is booked for October. So why you are mentioning peceding months is beyond me. https://www.ladbible.com/news/news-canary-islands-not-due-to-open-to-international-tourism-until-autumn-20200422 "Now the Canary Islands' regional government has announced it will not be opening the area up to holidaymakers from abroad until at least October, having said 'international tourism' will be the third phase of its return to normality" But what would the regional government of the Canary Islands know about it compared to your profound knowledge? | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched I don't think having a laboratory at an airport is that far fetched at all. As it is incoming passengers have been known to be pulled over for chest Xrays for TB. I don't see anything that stops this happening. Are you actually serious? Ridicule makes for a poor counter argument. Say something ridiculous...expect ridicule...simples I'm not going to argue your point. I'm just going to decide it's redicilous and then ask if you are serious. Are you serious!!!!???? Wow it's easy being you! Facile is as facile does.....time will tell....but then no doubt you'll not be about to acknowledge the obvious All I did was ask for reasons why what I suggested were impossible. Instead of providing those reasons which should be easy if what I suggest is so far fetched. Instead you hung a label on it, something any fool could do. These ideas are not my own, they are too redicilous to propse on a swingers forum but clearly not redicilous enough to be suggested by a journalist and published. Of course I only need to go back to February to provide examples of how people thought I was redicilous to suggest COVID-19 would have an impact on our day to day lives. I'm not predicting the future just a possibility of a solution that would make international travel much safer. I answered, you just chose to counter with more ridiculous assertions, that have zero founding. But hey ho, freedom of speech and all that....fill your boots. The serial slaggers have joined in to give you 'big boy' support anyhow.....yet none offer any argument that has any semblance of the reality that we are living. Enjoy the party in GC, in July/August/September/October... whatever month you believe you'll be there Oh really. Please look back on this thread. I wrote: "I don't see anything that stops this happening" Apart from saying it's redicilous (which not a fact, simply your point of view) you have not provided one single thing that stops this from happening. Clearly your condescending and patronising attitude is irritating to others on this thread. This is not their fault. I have clearly stated my holiday is booked for October. So why you are mentioning peceding months is beyond me. https://www.ladbible.com/news/news-canary-islands-not-due-to-open-to-international-tourism-until-autumn-20200422 "Now the Canary Islands' regional government has announced it will not be opening the area up to holidaymakers from abroad until at least October, having said 'international tourism' will be the third phase of its return to normality" But what would the regional government of the Canary Islands know about it compared to your profound knowledge? " Clearly some people's reading skills are on a par with their spelling....but hey, if I say your dick's bigger than my dick, will that make you happy? Maybe you'll be too busy answering all your private messages of support but I'll end by saying, enjoy your holiday..... | |||
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"During January, February, March when the R. infection rate was apparently quite high we travelled extensively throughout south east Asia without consequences. Ten plane journeys, numerous trains, boats and taxis, all very crowded, many but not all wearing masks. I think that as long as you take sensible precautions there shouldn't be a problem with travel. Since the latest thoughts are that this virus will stay with us permanently we just need to deal with managing the risk factors or otherwise lock ourselves away for ever!" Should add that we have booked our November flights to GC and will be travelling there unless La Mirage is still closed. | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched I don't think having a laboratory at an airport is that far fetched at all. As it is incoming passengers have been known to be pulled over for chest Xrays for TB. I don't see anything that stops this happening. Are you actually serious? Ridicule makes for a poor counter argument. Say something ridiculous...expect ridicule...simples I'm not going to argue your point. I'm just going to decide it's redicilous and then ask if you are serious. Are you serious!!!!???? Wow it's easy being you! Facile is as facile does.....time will tell....but then no doubt you'll not be about to acknowledge the obvious All I did was ask for reasons why what I suggested were impossible. Instead of providing those reasons which should be easy if what I suggest is so far fetched. Instead you hung a label on it, something any fool could do. These ideas are not my own, they are too redicilous to propse on a swingers forum but clearly not redicilous enough to be suggested by a journalist and published. Of course I only need to go back to February to provide examples of how people thought I was redicilous to suggest COVID-19 would have an impact on our day to day lives. I'm not predicting the future just a possibility of a solution that would make international travel much safer. I answered, you just chose to counter with more ridiculous assertions, that have zero founding. But hey ho, freedom of speech and all that....fill your boots. The serial slaggers have joined in to give you 'big boy' support anyhow.....yet none offer any argument that has any semblance of the reality that we are living. Enjoy the party in GC, in July/August/September/October... whatever month you believe you'll be there Oh really. Please look back on this thread. I wrote: "I don't see anything that stops this happening" Apart from saying it's redicilous (which not a fact, simply your point of view) you have not provided one single thing that stops this from happening. Clearly your condescending and patronising attitude is irritating to others on this thread. This is not their fault. I have clearly stated my holiday is booked for October. So why you are mentioning peceding months is beyond me. https://www.ladbible.com/news/news-canary-islands-not-due-to-open-to-international-tourism-until-autumn-20200422 "Now the Canary Islands' regional government has announced it will not be opening the area up to holidaymakers from abroad until at least October, having said 'international tourism' will be the third phase of its return to normality" But what would the regional government of the Canary Islands know about it compared to your profound knowledge? Clearly some people's reading skills are on a par with their spelling....but hey, if I say your dick's bigger than my dick, will that make you happy? Maybe you'll be too busy answering all your private messages of support but I'll end by saying, enjoy your holiday..... " I will enjoy my holiday thank you. I am self employed and can take that holiday any time I choose. I would have preferred October because I've been to PDI other times of the year and October really rocks. I really hope the situation changes by October and I get to see you all having a ton of fun at the Cita centre | |||
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"During January, February, March when the R. infection rate was apparently quite high we travelled extensively throughout south east Asia without consequences. Ten plane journeys, numerous trains, boats and taxis, all very crowded, many but not all wearing masks. I think that as long as you take sensible precautions there shouldn't be a problem with travel. Since the latest thoughts are that this virus will stay with us permanently we just need to deal with managing the risk factors or otherwise lock ourselves away for ever!" The virus will stay with us until there is a vaccine which, if I were a betting man, would bet on being available sooner than any other vaccine in medical history. God knows there's enough money being thrown at it! | |||
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"Positivity.....an antibody test that's reportedly 100% accurate..that's certainly a move towards freedom of travel...a small one, as relatively few will test positive and be free to travel with minimal risk..but a step forward all the same " Who knows what strides we may have made by October. My philosophy remains the same hope for the best, prepare for the worst | |||
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"Well we have booked for October so will see some of you out there and some of you we won't and if it does not happen we will just move it back a month or two and try again Always look on the bright side of life " Same here .. | |||
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"Well we have booked for October so will see some of you out there and some of you we won't and if it does not happen we will just move it back a month or two and try again Always look on the bright side of life " It will be nice to see you both again | |||
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"Well we have booked for October so will see some of you out there and some of you we won't and if it does not happen we will just move it back a month or two and try again Always look on the bright side of life Same here .. " It will be nice to see again too | |||
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"the way things are at the moment everyone will have to have 6 weeks off to have a 2 week holiday , 2 weeks when you arrive in Spain in isolation then your 2 week holiday then 2 weeks in isolation when you arrive back in the UK." I assumed your 2 week holiday will be your 2 week isolation | |||
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"the way things are at the moment everyone will have to have 6 weeks off to have a 2 week holiday , 2 weeks when you arrive in Spain in isolation then your 2 week holiday then 2 weeks in isolation when you arrive back in the UK. I assumed your 2 week holiday will be your 2 week isolation" then there`s no point in coming in the first place if your going to be in isolation | |||
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"Greece needs the money it was on its knees before this. Others will be watching if Greece starts taking trade, they will have to rethink. " On return to the UK holidaymakers will be required to quarantine for two weeks. | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched I don't think having a laboratory at an airport is that far fetched at all. As it is incoming passengers have been known to be pulled over for chest Xrays for TB. I don't see anything that stops this happening. Are you actually serious? " I think that it's completely feasible that within the next two years that we will have to submit to blood tests at airports before travelling. Given the incredible technological progress in Asia it is easily foreseeable that some type of universal testing device will be created and marketed for all air travel. | |||
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"the way things are at the moment everyone will have to have 6 weeks off to have a 2 week holiday , 2 weeks when you arrive in Spain in isolation then your 2 week holiday then 2 weeks in isolation when you arrive back in the UK. I assumed your 2 week holiday will be your 2 week isolation then there`s no point in coming in the first place if your going to be in isolation " Exactly! | |||
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"https://www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/1281096/holidays-2020-summer-Greece-quarantine-14-days-June-flights-abroad Holidays 2020: Greece welcomes Britons without quarantine from next month Britons may be able to holiday in Greece from June 1 without facing quarantine rules, according to Athens. The Greek government is now looking to ease its lockdown restrictions and revive the country’s usually booming tourism industry. The plan to reopen tourist hotspots and see travellers from various parts of Europe including the UK return to the country could begin from June 1. I think the world will be watching to see how this pans out." They have placed lots of restrictions though. A test 72 hours before travelling and production of certificate, good luck with that one, Restrictions on transport from airport, one person per 5seater taxi, no cleaning of rooms, changing towels, bedding , no buffets, staggered meal times...we've cancelled out Corfu holiday this year | |||
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"https://www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/1281096/holidays-2020-summer-Greece-quarantine-14-days-June-flights-abroad Holidays 2020: Greece welcomes Britons without quarantine from next month Britons may be able to holiday in Greece from June 1 without facing quarantine rules, according to Athens. The Greek government is now looking to ease its lockdown restrictions and revive the country’s usually booming tourism industry. The plan to reopen tourist hotspots and see travellers from various parts of Europe including the UK return to the country could begin from June 1. I think the world will be watching to see how this pans out. They have placed lots of restrictions though. A test 72 hours before travelling and production of certificate, good luck with that one, Restrictions on transport from airport, one person per 5seater taxi, no cleaning of rooms, changing towels, bedding , no buffets, staggered meal times...we've cancelled out Corfu holiday this year" Oh, swimming pools, one person per 2.5 cubic metres, not sure what that is | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched " https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/15/flying-long-haul-during-covid-19-air-travel-has-never-been-stranger Im this description the author describes how he was tested for COVID-19 IN THE AIRPORT. A concept previously declared to be so far fetched as to be redicilous. This is in May. Imagine how much better the world COULD be geared up for travel if we set our minds to it? The only thing stopping us really are negative people who shoot down every idea that isn't theirs | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/15/flying-long-haul-during-covid-19-air-travel-has-never-been-stranger Im this description the author describes how he was tested for COVID-19 IN THE AIRPORT. A concept previously declared to be so far fetched as to be redicilous. This is in May. Imagine how much better the world COULD be geared up for travel if we set our minds to it? The only thing stopping us really are negative people who shoot down every idea that isn't theirs " That's an interesting read. That's a good thing and necessary if you have to travel ie to get home, travel for work etc, however I wouldn't do it for a holiday, I prefer to stay home until things are more certain. | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/15/flying-long-haul-during-covid-19-air-travel-has-never-been-stranger Im this description the author describes how he was tested for COVID-19 IN THE AIRPORT. A concept previously declared to be so far fetched as to be redicilous. This is in May. Imagine how much better the world COULD be geared up for travel if we set our minds to it? The only thing stopping us really are negative people who shoot down every idea that isn't theirs That's an interesting read. That's a good thing and necessary if you have to travel ie to get home, travel for work etc, however I wouldn't do it for a holiday, I prefer to stay home until things are more certain." Nope I wouldn't travel now either. And I am sure travel won't be the same again for a very long time either. But there is hope that it will at least be possible when systems have been put in place. Which I am sure they will. | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/15/flying-long-haul-during-covid-19-air-travel-has-never-been-stranger Im this description the author describes how he was tested for COVID-19 IN THE AIRPORT. A concept previously declared to be so far fetched as to be redicilous. This is in May. Imagine how much better the world COULD be geared up for travel if we set our minds to it? The only thing stopping us really are negative people who shoot down every idea that isn't theirs " The bit you didn't mention is that's only passengers from high risk areas, who get taken to an exhibition centre, where they remain for 8 hours, so not really "at the airport". Those from lower risk areas still get tested and get results in 2 days.....but the most important bit not mentioned is that regardless, all are tagged and must self quarantine for 14 days. Not really what was purported....only pointing out for the benefit of those that won't read the article and believe the headline posted | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/15/flying-long-haul-during-covid-19-air-travel-has-never-been-stranger Im this description the author describes how he was tested for COVID-19 IN THE AIRPORT. A concept previously declared to be so far fetched as to be redicilous. This is in May. Imagine how much better the world COULD be geared up for travel if we set our minds to it? The only thing stopping us really are negative people who shoot down every idea that isn't theirs The bit you didn't mention is that's only passengers from high risk areas, who get taken to an exhibition centre, where they remain for 8 hours, so not really "at the airport". Those from lower risk areas still get tested and get results in 2 days.....but the most important bit not mentioned is that regardless, all are tagged and must self quarantine for 14 days. Not really what was purported....only pointing out for the benefit of those that won't read the article and believe the headline posted " Yes this is where we are at the beginning of things. Mere months after the outbreak. After 911 ALL flights were grounded. Now we have thorough security checks. As I have been at pains to point out, I'm not saying there's a quick and easy solution, just the idea that mechanisms, however inconvenient are possible. I also mentioned people who will shoot down any idea that isn't theirs. And voila.....!!! | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/15/flying-long-haul-during-covid-19-air-travel-has-never-been-stranger Im this description the author describes how he was tested for COVID-19 IN THE AIRPORT. A concept previously declared to be so far fetched as to be redicilous. This is in May. Imagine how much better the world COULD be geared up for travel if we set our minds to it? The only thing stopping us really are negative people who shoot down every idea that isn't theirs The bit you didn't mention is that's only passengers from high risk areas, who get taken to an exhibition centre, where they remain for 8 hours, so not really "at the airport". Those from lower risk areas still get tested and get results in 2 days.....but the most important bit not mentioned is that regardless, all are tagged and must self quarantine for 14 days. Not really what was purported....only pointing out for the benefit of those that won't read the article and believe the headline posted Yes this is where we are at the beginning of things. Mere months after the outbreak. After 911 ALL flights were grounded. Now we have thorough security checks. As I have been at pains to point out, I'm not saying there's a quick and easy solution, just the idea that mechanisms, however inconvenient are possible. I also mentioned people who will shoot down any idea that isn't theirs. And voila.....!!! " I will challenge anyone who posts a misrepresentation of old news... nothing has progressed re testing, other than the reported discovery of an antibody test. All tests for whether you have Covid-19 remain laboratory based, for now | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/15/flying-long-haul-during-covid-19-air-travel-has-never-been-stranger Im this description the author describes how he was tested for COVID-19 IN THE AIRPORT. A concept previously declared to be so far fetched as to be redicilous. This is in May. Imagine how much better the world COULD be geared up for travel if we set our minds to it? The only thing stopping us really are negative people who shoot down every idea that isn't theirs The bit you didn't mention is that's only passengers from high risk areas, who get taken to an exhibition centre, where they remain for 8 hours, so not really "at the airport". Those from lower risk areas still get tested and get results in 2 days.....but the most important bit not mentioned is that regardless, all are tagged and must self quarantine for 14 days. Not really what was purported....only pointing out for the benefit of those that won't read the article and believe the headline posted Yes this is where we are at the beginning of things. Mere months after the outbreak. After 911 ALL flights were grounded. Now we have thorough security checks. As I have been at pains to point out, I'm not saying there's a quick and easy solution, just the idea that mechanisms, however inconvenient are possible. I also mentioned people who will shoot down any idea that isn't theirs. And voila.....!!! I will challenge anyone who posts a misrepresentation of old news... nothing has progressed re testing, other than the reported discovery of an antibody test. All tests for whether you have Covid-19 remain laboratory based, for now " Well we aren't talking about now are we? We're talking about where we might be by October. Or are you so busy nitpicking that you forgot what the thread title is. Frankly you could have just stopped after the first four words. I remain positive about the fact that the airline industry won't just sit back and watch their infrastructure collapse without coming up with some ways to mitigate the disruption caused by this virus. If we have come this far in few months this virus has been around I'm sure we'll be further along in four months time. | |||
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"Is there any chance you two could learn to only "Quote" the relevant bit rather than the hole effing thread ? Better still, learn to be grown ups *Whole. Now that made me laugh " I can't help it. I am a self confessed Grammer Nazi. I apologise if this offended anyone. | |||
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"Is there any chance you two could learn to only "Quote" the relevant bit rather than the hole effing thread ? Better still, learn to be grown ups *Whole. Now that made me laugh I can't help it. I am a self confessed Grammer Nazi. I apologise if this offended anyone. " Is effing a word that starts with 'F'? | |||
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"Is there any chance you two could learn to only "Quote" the relevant bit rather than the hole effing thread ? Better still, learn to be grown ups *Whole. Now that made me laugh I can't help it. I am a self confessed Grammer Nazi. I apologise if this offended anyone. Is effing a word that starts with 'F'?" Yep. Just like 'funder' | |||
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"Is there any chance you two could learn to only "Quote" the relevant bit rather than the hole effing thread ? Better still, learn to be grown ups *Whole. Now that made me laugh I can't help it. I am a self confessed Grammer Nazi. I apologise if this offended anyone. Is effing a word that starts with 'F'? Yep. Just like 'funder' " And FAF? | |||
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"Is there any chance you two could learn to only "Quote" the relevant bit rather than the hole effing thread ? Better still, learn to be grown ups *Whole. Now that made me laugh I can't help it. I am a self confessed Grammer Nazi. I apologise if this offended anyone. Is effing a word that starts with 'F'? Yep. Just like 'funder' And FAF?" Yes please! | |||
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"Is there any chance you two could learn to only "Quote" the relevant bit rather than the hole effing thread ? Better still, learn to be grown ups *Whole. Now that made me laugh I can't help it. I am a self confessed Grammer Nazi. I apologise if this offended anyone. Is effing a word that starts with 'F'? Yep. Just like 'funder' And FAF? Yes please! " Woooohoooo See ya all later folks | |||
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"Is there any chance you two could learn to only "Quote" the relevant bit rather than the hole effing thread ? Better still, learn to be grown ups *Whole. Now that made me laugh I can't help it. I am a self confessed Grammer Nazi. I apologise if this offended anyone. Is effing a word that starts with 'F'? Yep. Just like 'funder' " And litenin! | |||
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"Is there any chance you two could learn to only "Quote" the relevant bit rather than the hole effing thread ? Better still, learn to be grown ups *Whole. Now that made me laugh I can't help it. I am a self confessed Grammer Nazi. I apologise if this offended anyone. Is effing a word that starts with 'F'? Yep. Just like 'funder' And FAF? Yes please! Woooohoooo See ya all later folks " Enjoyed the hole experience... Thank you madam | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/15/flying-long-haul-during-covid-19-air-travel-has-never-been-stranger Im this description the author describes how he was tested for COVID-19 IN THE AIRPORT. A concept previously declared to be so far fetched as to be redicilous. This is in May. Imagine how much better the world COULD be geared up for travel if we set our minds to it? The only thing stopping us really are negative people who shoot down every idea that isn't theirs The bit you didn't mention is that's only passengers from high risk areas, who get taken to an exhibition centre, where they remain for 8 hours, so not really "at the airport". Those from lower risk areas still get tested and get results in 2 days.....but the most important bit not mentioned is that regardless, all are tagged and must self quarantine for 14 days. Not really what was purported....only pointing out for the benefit of those that won't read the article and believe the headline posted Yes this is where we are at the beginning of things. Mere months after the outbreak. After 911 ALL flights were grounded. Now we have thorough security checks. As I have been at pains to point out, I'm not saying there's a quick and easy solution, just the idea that mechanisms, however inconvenient are possible. I also mentioned people who will shoot down any idea that isn't theirs. And voila.....!!! I will challenge anyone who posts a misrepresentation of old news... nothing has progressed re testing, other than the reported discovery of an antibody test. All tests for whether you have Covid-19 remain laboratory based, for now " Thank goodness you are on this forum keeping everyone right | |||
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"We will have probably all had the virus by October most sectors are getting back to work in the next 3 months. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous posts yet To clarify, currently less than 0.5% of the UK population confirmed as having Covid-19....and that's led to 32,000 deaths(disputed).you do the maths, if we were ALL to be infected by October I've done the maths on another thread. At our official current rate of infection it will take 37 years to get 80% required for full immunity. But what if, by October they have testing centers at airports and everyone gets tested before they can fly? Is that so far fetched? Considering all tests are laboratory based, yes, that is pretty far fetched https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/15/flying-long-haul-during-covid-19-air-travel-has-never-been-stranger Im this description the author describes how he was tested for COVID-19 IN THE AIRPORT. A concept previously declared to be so far fetched as to be redicilous. This is in May. Imagine how much better the world COULD be geared up for travel if we set our minds to it? The only thing stopping us really are negative people who shoot down every idea that isn't theirs The bit you didn't mention is that's only passengers from high risk areas, who get taken to an exhibition centre, where they remain for 8 hours, so not really "at the airport". Those from lower risk areas still get tested and get results in 2 days.....but the most important bit not mentioned is that regardless, all are tagged and must self quarantine for 14 days. Not really what was purported....only pointing out for the benefit of those that won't read the article and believe the headline posted Yes this is where we are at the beginning of things. Mere months after the outbreak. After 911 ALL flights were grounded. Now we have thorough security checks. As I have been at pains to point out, I'm not saying there's a quick and easy solution, just the idea that mechanisms, however inconvenient are possible. I also mentioned people who will shoot down any idea that isn't theirs. And voila.....!!! I will challenge anyone who posts a misrepresentation of old news... nothing has progressed re testing, other than the reported discovery of an antibody test. All tests for whether you have Covid-19 remain laboratory based, for now Thank goodness you are on this forum keeping everyone right " Hey! He got me laid! Best wingman ever!!! | |||
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"https://thecanarynews.com/2020/05/15/spain-designates-gran-canaria-as-one-of-only-five-airports-and-eight-ports-of-entry-to-the-country/ " Still 14 days quarantine then.. | |||
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"I'm sure a lot of people on here are missing what the thread is about , its about a bit of hope and optimism that we may get back to some normality in the coming months .surely isn't that what we all want. Holidays are a part how we can get back to normality and no one can say that in the last month we haven't taken small steps towards that. Now lets hope and prey that in the next few months we continue to take these steps towards normality " You are quite right and I hope you all get away | |||
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"https://thecanarynews.com/2020/05/15/spain-designates-gran-canaria-as-one-of-only-five-airports-and-eight-ports-of-entry-to-the-country/ Still 14 days quarantine then.." Now. Yes. I'm happy about that. The stricter their lockdown is now, the better the chances things will closer to normal in October. Imagine if they dropped restrictions completely and by October they were in the middle of a second wave? | |||
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"https://thecanarynews.com/2020/05/15/spain-designates-gran-canaria-as-one-of-only-five-airports-and-eight-ports-of-entry-to-the-country/ Still 14 days quarantine then.. Now. Yes. I'm happy about that. The stricter their lockdown is now, the better the chances things will closer to normal in October. Imagine if they dropped restrictions completely and by October they were in the middle of a second wave?" Yep they are doing the right thing | |||
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"I'm sure a lot of people on here are missing what the thread is about , its about a bit of hope and optimism that we may get back to some normality in the coming months .surely isn't that what we all want. Holidays are a part how we can get back to normality and no one can say that in the last month we haven't taken small steps towards that. Now lets hope and prey that in the next few months we continue to take these steps towards normality " Best of luck for all our holidays.It would be nice if people were more polite to each other, it seems not all Swingers are friendly or the brightest Some have all the answers we need though | |||
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"I'm sure a lot of people on here are missing what the thread is about , its about a bit of hope and optimism that we may get back to some normality in the coming months .surely isn't that what we all want. Holidays are a part how we can get back to normality and no one can say that in the last month we haven't taken small steps towards that. Now lets hope and prey that in the next few months we continue to take these steps towards normality Best of luck for all our holidays.It would be nice if people were more polite to each other, it seems not all Swingers are friendly or the brightest Some have all the answers we need though " | |||
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"If the flights are on and it’s open we’re going. Even for just the weather!" Same here. I really hope the beaches are open because nude body surfing is one of those pleasures in life I can't live without | |||
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"If the flights are on and it’s open we’re going. Even for just the weather! Same here. I really hope the beaches are open because nude body surfing is one of those pleasures in life I can't live without " I think the beaches are open now you can see people walking up and down and a police car patrolling , on the webcam, not sure about nude body surfing though | |||
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"If the flights are on and it’s open we’re going. Even for just the weather! Same here. I really hope the beaches are open because nude body surfing is one of those pleasures in life I can't live without I think the beaches are open now you can see people walking up and down and a police car patrolling , on the webcam, not sure about nude body surfing though " I hope they are still open in October because a second wave is not surfable | |||
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"If the flights are on and it’s open we’re going. Even for just the weather! Same here. I really hope the beaches are open because nude body surfing is one of those pleasures in life I can't live without I think the beaches are open now you can see people walking up and down and a police car patrolling , on the webcam, not sure about nude body surfing though I hope they are still open in October because a second wave is not surfable " Haha! | |||
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"Beaches are open, you can sunbathe from the 8th of June. 14 days quarantine when end state of alarm end. Looks like it will end the 25th of June. Clubs are planning to open on the 8th of June. That’s 2 owners I’ve spoken to" Thank you for the feedback | |||
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"Beaches are open, you can sunbathe from the 8th of June. 14 days quarantine when end state of alarm end. Looks like it will end the 25th of June. Clubs are planning to open on the 8th of June. That’s 2 owners I’ve spoken to" That's good I presume they will still have to operate the social distancing , so social gatherings only? | |||
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"Beaches are open, you can sunbathe from the 8th of June. 14 days quarantine when end state of alarm end. Looks like it will end the 25th of June. Clubs are planning to open on the 8th of June. That’s 2 owners I’ve spoken to That's good I presume they will still have to operate the social distancing , so social gatherings only?" How to have sex and maintain social distancing: Step 1: Take out you 215cm long penis and.... Hang on this won't apply to most other men..... | |||
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"If the flights are on and it’s open we’re going. Even for just the weather!" Love the sun | |||
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"If the flights are on and it’s open we’re going. Even for just the weather! Love the sun " I love the sun but I really love the people. The vibe in PDI especially in October borders on mystical. If all I get to do in PDI is see my friends again I'll be happy. | |||
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"If the flights are on and it’s open we’re going. Even for just the weather! Love the sun I love the sun but I really love the people. The vibe in PDI especially in October borders on mystical. If all I get to do in PDI is see my friends again I'll be happy." Yes I agree with that | |||
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"I'm sure a lot of people on here are missing what the thread is about , its about a bit of hope and optimism that we may get back to some normality in the coming months .surely isn't that what we all want. Holidays are a part how we can get back to normality and no one can say that in the last month we haven't taken small steps towards that. Now lets hope and prey that in the next few months we continue to take these steps towards normality " Well said !! Hope to raise a glass with you two in the sunshine ASAP ! | |||
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"I'm sure a lot of people on here are missing what the thread is about , its about a bit of hope and optimism that we may get back to some normality in the coming months .surely isn't that what we all want. Holidays are a part how we can get back to normality and no one can say that in the last month we haven't taken small steps towards that. Now lets hope and prey that in the next few months we continue to take these steps towards normality Well said !! Hope to raise a glass with you two in the sunshine ASAP ! " When are you guys planning on arriving in PDI? | |||
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