 |
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I have no argument with rallies and marches per se
The Orange Order are marching in celebration of what was an attempt at mass genocide in Ireland.
He tried it again in SCOTLAND in late 1691.
Only one chieftain and his kinfolk were massacred because of it
About time Scottish people were educated in what actually happened in the late 17th Century and was still happening over in Ireland during Thatchers reign |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
As opposed to Republicans who promote the IRA etc you see if you stop one Rally March etc to suit a point of view you need to stop them all ie Greenpeace, Gay Pride etc iv no time for religion or petty preduces but unfortunately i need to put up with them in order to allow free speech |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Why schools and football marches?
The thread was about sectarian marches?
Marches that bring hate and sometimes violence.
Marches that stop traffic and closed shops when they are happening.  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Because The Rangers Celtic and separate schools are a breeding ground for hatred but that's just my opinion which will differ from others the Orange Order and The Hibs Order will argue their protecting the heritage and once you start banning marches rallys etc because you dont agree you then no longer have a free state |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago
outside your bedroom window ;-) |
"Because The Rangers Celtic and separate schools are a breeding ground for hatred but that's just my opinion which will differ from others the Orange Order and The Hibs Order will argue their protecting the heritage and once you start banning marches rallys etc because you dont agree you then no longer have a free state "
As you say everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if they are generally wrong and using a very small percentage of people to blanket all people of that group. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago
outside your bedroom window ;-) |
"Freedom of speech is 1 thing.
100s of people singing about killing people is another.
Sectarianism will only stop in the home."
100% agree
Make all schools Catholic and it ends the segregated schools debate  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Because The Rangers Celtic and separate schools are a breeding ground for hatred but that's just my opinion which will differ from others the Orange Order and The Hibs Order will argue their protecting the heritage and once you start banning marches rallys etc because you dont agree you then no longer have a free state
As you say everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if they are generally wrong and using a very small percentage of people to blanket all people of that group."
Small percentage there are thousands of kids separated in different schools and thousands travel from all over Scotland and further away to support Rangers and Celtic when they have local teams that need their support so nothing to do with football if you want to stop bigotry and hatred you need to start at grass roots anyway I'm no falling out with anyone over this I'm away to make a daisy chain out of butter cups peace n love |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago
Paisley |
"I have no argument with rallies and marches per se
The Orange Order are marching in celebration of what was an attempt at mass genocide in Ireland.
He tried it again in SCOTLAND in late 1691.
Only one chieftain and his kinfolk were massacred because of it
About time Scottish people were educated in what actually happened in the late 17th Century and was still happening over in Ireland during Thatchers reign "
I agree that many just seem to follow like sheep without knowing the history but it still doesn’t excuse the bigoted behaviour many show in everyday life. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Because The Rangers Celtic and separate schools are a breeding ground for hatred but that's just my opinion which will differ from others the Orange Order and The Hibs Order will argue their protecting the heritage and once you start banning marches rallys etc because you dont agree you then no longer have a free state
As you say everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if they are generally wrong and using a very small percentage of people to blanket all people of that group.Small percentage there are thousands of kids separated in different schools and thousands travel from all over Scotland and further away to support Rangers and Celtic when they have local teams that need their support so nothing to do with football if you want to stop bigotry and hatred you need to start at grass roots anyway I'm no falling out with anyone over this I'm away to make a daisy chain out of butter cups peace n love"
Daisy chains aren't made out of Buttercups - they're made out of... Nice sentiments though. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Because The Rangers Celtic and separate schools are a breeding ground for hatred but that's just my opinion which will differ from others the Orange Order and The Hibs Order will argue their protecting the heritage and once you start banning marches rallys etc because you dont agree you then no longer have a free state
As you say everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if they are generally wrong and using a very small percentage of people to blanket all people of that group.Small percentage there are thousands of kids separated in different schools and thousands travel from all over Scotland and further away to support Rangers and Celtic when they have local teams that need their support so nothing to do with football if you want to stop bigotry and hatred you need to start at grass roots anyway I'm no falling out with anyone over this I'm away to make a daisy chain out of butter cups peace n love"
Sure this has been answered before but why is the separate schools debate only an issue in Scotland, other countries seem to have no problem with this, so is there another underlying reason for it springing up time and again? Bigotry begins in the home, unless you could point out which part of the schools curriculum promotes or teaches sectarianism.
Also a lot of football supporters travel from all over the country or from abroad to watch their favourite team because their fathers took them as kids and they became attached to that team over time, bigotry is the furthest thing from their mind. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Sadly this is more prevalent in the west of Scotland, but definitely touches us all.
Bigotry is a learned behaviour and too many dinosaurs are still teaching their kids that the opposite religion is something to hate.
I have no issue with people of faith practicing their religion but the one thing that every religion teaches is love thy neighbour, not hate them cos they have a different faith.
I wish those who oftentimes aren’t even religious, would stop using this as an excuse to breed hatred.
We all bleed, we all breath and we all go for a dump. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Because The Rangers Celtic and separate schools are a breeding ground for hatred but that's just my opinion which will differ from others the Orange Order and The Hibs Order will argue their protecting the heritage and once you start banning marches rallys etc because you dont agree you then no longer have a free state
As you say everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if they are generally wrong and using a very small percentage of people to blanket all people of that group.Small percentage there are thousands of kids separated in different schools and thousands travel from all over Scotland and further away to support Rangers and Celtic when they have local teams that need their support so nothing to do with football if you want to stop bigotry and hatred you need to start at grass roots anyway I'm no falling out with anyone over this I'm away to make a daisy chain out of butter cups peace n love
Sure this has been answered before but why is the separate schools debate only an issue in Scotland, other countries seem to have no problem with this, so is there another underlying reason for it springing up time and again? Bigotry begins in the home, unless you could point out which part of the schools curriculum promotes or teaches sectarianism.
Also a lot of football supporters travel from all over the country or from abroad to watch their favourite team because their fathers took them as kids and they became attached to that team over time, bigotry is the furthest thing from their mind. "
its not on the curriculum it's a consequence of separating kids into tribes as for fathers talking their kids would a dad take his kid to boxing club in Glasgow every week if he moved fifty miles away just because that's the one he went to it's just away to keep the bigotry going because that's how they were brought up instead of stopping it and starving the Orange Order and the other lot of recruiting |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
And this consequence (separating into tribes) occurs in other countries that have rc schools, but no mention of sectarian and/or religious intolerance. Why is it always an issue in Scotland?
Not sure you're boxing analogy holds up, football is a completely different er, ball game. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Celebrating one thing doesn’t mean you have a hatred for something else
The definition of bigotry is an intolerance to those that hold difference of opinions to oneself. Seems like there’s a bit of intolerance on this thread.
It doesn’t matter what side, if any, I show support to but driving religious groups off the streets and forcing them underground has never worked in the past. Live and let live, if this means I have to accept something I don’t agree with then so be it. If there’s a march, parade or protest on I can avoid it like I do with other things I don’t want to be part of. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"And this consequence (separating into tribes) occurs in other countries that have rc schools, but no mention of sectarian and/or religious intolerance. Why is it always an issue in Scotland?
Not sure you're boxing analogy holds up, football is a completely different er, ball game. "
I totally agree children don’t learn intolerance at school it comes from in the most part intolerant parents. My kids have been brought up to treat everyone regardless of race, religion, sexuality, disabilities with respect. They have friends in our street who attend different schools both non Dom and catholic but there is no issues aside from the normal childhood fallouts, Blaming schools is a lazy argument in my opinion |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *yrdsisWoman
over a year ago
Gleam Street |
I generally say live and let live.. but the parade goes past my house and terrifies the dogs. I got a noise complaint from the police last year for blasting Slayer in my own house... to try to drown out the drums that upset my pups.... it will be blasted every time the walk happens |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *intage74Couple
over a year ago
Lanarkshire |
OO is a racist organisation
Fact
Strict rules you must be from the Protestant religion to pass the joining criteria
You cannot join of your a Muslim
You cannot join if a RC
I don’t make up the rules but In a multicultural society we should not be judging people on faith creed or sexuality
In years to come hopefully it will be phased out but certainly hard liners wanting it to pass to the next generation
Rather sad
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Luckily don't get them up this way, but it's appalling that this shit goes on anywhere. Bunch of knuckle dragging saddoes needing a life and clinging on to lies and propoganda based on the shite that is religion. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"OO is a racist organisation
Fact
Strict rules you must be from the Protestant religion to pass the joining criteria
You cannot join of your a Muslim
You cannot join if a RC
I don’t make up the rules but In a multicultural society we should not be judging people on faith creed or sexuality
In years to come hopefully it will be phased out but certainly hard liners wanting it to pass to the next generation
Rather sad
"
True it is a racist/sectarian organisation built on the premise of eradicating Roman Catholicism |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *gag001Couple
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Freedom of speech is 1 thing.
100s of people singing about killing people is another.
Sectarianism will only stop in the home.
100% agree
Make all schools Catholic and it ends the segregated schools debate "
We already have state paid Non Denominational schools for all/any faiths  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Celebrating one thing doesn’t mean you have a hatred for something else
The definition of bigotry is an intolerance to those that hold difference of opinions to oneself. Seems like there’s a bit of intolerance on this thread.
It doesn’t matter what side, if any, I show support to but driving religious groups off the streets and forcing them underground has never worked in the past. Live and let live, if this means I have to accept something I don’t agree with then so be it. If there’s a march, parade or protest on I can avoid it like I do with other things I don’t want to be part of. "
as above
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ubkidMan
over a year ago
University |
"I guess this is a blessing from the coronavirus- no orange or republican marches this year !!!!!"
When you live in Belfast, you’re delighted not to hear the Orange tunes and sectarian chants. Coronavirus is dreadful, but thank fab for small blessing! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
» Add a new message to this topic
Sorry. Not my best. 
