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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Well done Monica Lennon MSP...Scottish Parliament usually bans things, you've made something happen that actually reduces inequality. Grown up politics...whatever next?!

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By *ude bhoy 300Man over a year ago

east kilbride

Couldnt agree more, top job lets hope it all goes through

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By *luebell888Woman over a year ago

Glasgowish

I do not agree with it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I do not agree with it"

Agree with what?)

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By *luebell888Woman over a year ago

Glasgowish

Giving every female in Scotlamd free sanitary products. But i do not agree with free prescriptions for everyone either.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sanitary products are a necessity.most that can afford will still buy them.its the woman and young girl that cant that will most benefit.as a woman I find your comment very selfish.

Think of a young girl with parents living under the bread line or junkie or alcoholics.how is that young girl ment to get money to buy sanitary towels? That leads to bullying and that leads to mental health issues.

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By *ude bhoy 300Man over a year ago

east kilbride

Makes me proud to be scottish that we lead the way on this

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By *luebell888Woman over a year ago

Glasgowish

I never said not give to the poor so God knows where you got that from. I said i do not agree with giving every women in Scotland. Alot are very rich and can afford £3 per month. The money could be spent on far better things.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As I said most woman will still buy them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sanitary products are a necessity.most that can afford will still buy them.its the woman and young girl that cant that will most benefit.as a woman I find your comment very selfish.

Couldnt agree with you anymore on this well said on all points

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By *innettMan over a year ago

scotland

"I never said not give to the poor so God knows where you got that from. I said i do not agree with giving every women in Scotland. Alot are very rich and can afford £3 per month. The money could be spent on far better things."

Here comes the your a man comments but I 100% agree with you on this. If your thinking about poor or young girls... surely schools can hand them out or make a dispenser in there toilets/changing rooms.

Maybe have a bowl of them in a clinic like they do condoms.

It's going to be like paracetamol let's waste that £20 quid prescription when I can pop to tesco and get some for 25p. People will take the piss with this

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By *luebell888Woman over a year ago

Glasgowish

Maybe have a bowl of them in a clinic like they do condoms.

It's going to be like paracetamol let's waste that £20 quid prescription when I can pop to tesco and get some for 25p. People will take the piss with this "

Well hopefully they will not take up the Drs appointments like they do for the prescriptions.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

absolutely

same with free baby boxes when females give birth, Scotland has gone mad.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

absolutely

same with free baby boxes when females give birth, Scotland has gone mad."

And thats bad because ????? giving a wee helping hand to a wee family for there newborn ? C'mon no one should grudge that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

absolutely

same with free baby boxes when females give birth, Scotland has gone mad.

And thats bad because ????? giving a wee helping hand to a wee family for there newborn ? C'mon no one should grudge that"

when the family are financially secure they have no need of a baby box and many simply throw away the contents

then absolutely no need for one.

Scotland has gone mad.

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By *nox.Woman over a year ago

Glasgow

Making it accessible to everyone takes away some of the embarrassment of having to ask especially for young girls. End of the day it's still an expense men don't have. Taking into consideration its not always just £3 a month some periods don't last just 5 days. Not everyone will use this but it's nice to know it's there incase of emergencies.

Also on the paracetamol, prescriptions for paracetamol are usually for higher doses taken upto 2 4 times a day for extended periods because you can only buy a limited number of paracetamol at a time.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple over a year ago

Falkirk

absolutely

same with free baby boxes when females give birth, Scotland has gone mad.

And thats bad because ????? giving a wee helping hand to a wee family for there newborn ? C'mon no one should grudge that

when the family are financially secure they have no need of a baby box and many simply throw away the contents

then absolutely no need for one.

Scotland has gone mad."

I have to agree with this. We had most of the stuff pre purchased before my son arrived and like you say we didn't use it.

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By *awty_MissDynomiteNo1Woman over a year ago

No idea, I'm lost. Damn Sat nav!

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By *estless nativeMan over a year ago

near Glasgow

This bill has only passed the first stage at Holyrood, plenty of time for scrutiny and amendments to be made if appropriate.

While I can understand the arguments against universal access to free prescriptions, baby boxes and now sanitary products, the reality is that the cost of administering a means tested system is prohibitive as it negates the savings made.

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By *ering SeaMan over a year ago

Penicuik

Having helped out at my local food bank and bought products from my own pocket I know only to well this is a welcome addition to a forward progressive society.

112 votes in favour and none against shows that even cross party politics can work.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It would be nice if everyone had a strong moral compass and if you felt you don't need to use something brought in as a basic to help others (sanitary protection/baby boxes/prescriptions) then buy it yourself but the offer is still there for all. Sadly anything society/government does for a good reason and to help people is often abused by some. That goes for a lot of things, the NHS and Benefits system to name but two.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

absolutely

same with free baby boxes when females give birth, Scotland has gone mad.

And thats bad because ????? giving a wee helping hand to a wee family for there newborn ? C'mon no one should grudge that

when the family are financially secure they have no need of a baby box and many simply throw away the contents

then absolutely no need for one.

Scotland has gone mad."

Im sure some dont use it but would it not be better to refuse it instead of throwing the cintents away its like the agruement of free sanitarty products im sure women / girls who can afford them wont take freebies to throw away but the free priducts are there for those who cant afford them ...just my view on things

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By *ering SeaMan over a year ago

Penicuik

absolutely

same with free baby boxes when females give birth, Scotland has gone mad.

And thats bad because ????? giving a wee helping hand to a wee family for there newborn ? C'mon no one should grudge that

when the family are financially secure they have no need of a baby box and many simply throw away the contents

then absolutely no need for one.

Scotland has gone mad."

All newborn babies in Scotland will be given a box of essential items, containing things like:

clothes, from newborn up to 6 months

a digital ear thermometer

a bath towel

a changing mat

books

The box also has a mattress, mattress protector and a fitted sheet.

How you get your baby box

The baby box is free and your midwife will help you register for it.

During your 20 to 24 week antenatal appointment your midwife will:

explain the baby box to you and ask if you would like one

fill in a baby box registration card with you

arrange delivery

You don't need to do anything else. You'll get the baby box between weeks 32 to 36 of pregnancy.

Those who don’t need one don’t register for it. Simple really.

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By *xXgemmaXxXCouple over a year ago

Glasgow

I think it’s a great initiative which can only positively benefit society. In particular vulnerable young girls who are perhaps living with neglectful parents, women living in abusive/controlling relationships where they have no access to money, young girls being raised in homes with no maternal figure is single dad/grandad where they may feel rightly or wrongly uncomfortable asking for these products. I have 2 daughters and am in the fortunate position that I can afford to provide sanitary products however I am grateful that if they are ever caught short at school they have easy access to products which will preserve their dignity

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple over a year ago

Falkirk

"It would be nice if everyone had a strong moral compass and if you felt you don't need to use something brought in as a basic to help others (sanitary protection/baby boxes/prescriptions) then buy it yourself but the offer is still there for all. Sadly anything society/government does for a good reason and to help people is often abused by some. That goes for a lot of things, the NHS and Benefits system to name but two."

I tried to say something like this in my earlier post but failed miserably lol.

100% agree with you on that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

absolutely

same with free baby boxes when females give birth, Scotland has gone mad.

And thats bad because ????? giving a wee helping hand to a wee family for there newborn ? C'mon no one should grudge that

when the family are financially secure they have no need of a baby box and many simply throw away the contents

then absolutely no need for one.

Scotland has gone mad.

and what about for those who can afford cigarettes, alcohol, drugs and latest mobile phone yet still plead poverty? can they "afford" but choose to spend their money on other things?

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple over a year ago

Falkirk

absolutely

same with free baby boxes when females give birth, Scotland has gone mad.

And thats bad because ????? giving a wee helping hand to a wee family for there newborn ? C'mon no one should grudge that

when the family are financially secure they have no need of a baby box and many simply throw away the contents

then absolutely no need for one.

Scotland has gone mad.

All newborn babies in Scotland will be given a box of essential items, containing things like:

clothes, from newborn up to 6 months

a digital ear thermometer

a bath towel

a changing mat

books

The box also has a mattress, mattress protector and a fitted sheet.

How you get your baby box

The baby box is free and your midwife will help you register for it.

During your 20 to 24 week antenatal appointment your midwife will:

explain the baby box to you and ask if you would like one

fill in a baby box registration card with you

arrange delivery

You don't need to do anything else. You'll get the baby box between weeks 32 to 36 of pregnancy.

Those who don’t need one don’t register for it. Simple really. "

Not totally accurate. I never opted in for a baby box and still received one in the hospital as did the other six women that were in the ward with me.

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By *ering SeaMan over a year ago

Penicuik

absolutely

same with free baby boxes when females give birth, Scotland has gone mad.

And thats bad because ????? giving a wee helping hand to a wee family for there newborn ? C'mon no one should grudge that

when the family are financially secure they have no need of a baby box and many simply throw away the contents

then absolutely no need for one.

Scotland has gone mad.

All newborn babies in Scotland will be given a box of essential items, containing things like:

clothes, from newborn up to 6 months

a digital ear thermometer

a bath towel

a changing mat

books

The box also has a mattress, mattress protector and a fitted sheet.

How you get your baby box

The baby box is free and your midwife will help you register for it.

During your 20 to 24 week antenatal appointment your midwife will:

explain the baby box to you and ask if you would like one

fill in a baby box registration card with you

arrange delivery

You don't need to do anything else. You'll get the baby box between weeks 32 to 36 of pregnancy.

Those who don’t need one don’t register for it. Simple really.

Not totally accurate. I never opted in for a baby box and still received one in the hospital as did the other six women that were in the ward with me.

The above is taken from scot gov website.

You didn’t opt either though or given the option to. That’s administration failure on your and those others local health care dept.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

absolutely

same with free baby boxes when females give birth, Scotland has gone mad.

And thats bad because ????? giving a wee helping hand to a wee family for there newborn ? C'mon no one should grudge that

when the family are financially secure they have no need of a baby box and many simply throw away the contents

then absolutely no need for one.

Scotland has gone mad.

and what about for those who can afford cigarettes, alcohol, drugs and latest mobile phone yet still plead poverty? can they "afford" but choose to spend their money on other things?

Think your now just on your siap box jumping from 1 thing to another lol that topic could go on for the end of time tbh but maybe just maybe there are people out there not on drugs etc who are trying there best but still are in poverty

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I tried to say something like this in my earlier post but failed miserably lol.

100% agree with you on that.

Thank ya lovely

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By *ering SeaMan over a year ago

Penicuik

absolutely

same with free baby boxes when females give birth, Scotland has gone mad.

And thats bad because ????? giving a wee helping hand to a wee family for there newborn ? C'mon no one should grudge that

when the family are financially secure they have no need of a baby box and many simply throw away the contents

then absolutely no need for one.

Scotland has gone mad.

All newborn babies in Scotland will be given a box of essential items, containing things like:

clothes, from newborn up to 6 months

a digital ear thermometer

a bath towel

a changing mat

books

The box also has a mattress, mattress protector and a fitted sheet.

How you get your baby box

The baby box is free and your midwife will help you register for it.

During your 20 to 24 week antenatal appointment your midwife will:

explain the baby box to you and ask if you would like one

fill in a baby box registration card with you

arrange delivery

You don't need to do anything else. You'll get the baby box between weeks 32 to 36 of pregnancy.

Those who don’t need one don’t register for it. Simple really.

Not totally accurate. I never opted in for a baby box and still received one in the hospital as did the other six women that were in the ward with me.

The above is taken from scot gov website.

You didn’t opt either though or given the option to. That’s administration failure on your and those others local health care dept. "

*opt out*

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple over a year ago

Falkirk

absolutely

same with free baby boxes when females give birth, Scotland has gone mad.

And thats bad because ????? giving a wee helping hand to a wee family for there newborn ? C'mon no one should grudge that

when the family are financially secure they have no need of a baby box and many simply throw away the contents

then absolutely no need for one.

Scotland has gone mad.

All newborn babies in Scotland will be given a box of essential items, containing things like:

clothes, from newborn up to 6 months

a digital ear thermometer

a bath towel

a changing mat

books

The box also has a mattress, mattress protector and a fitted sheet.

How you get your baby box

The baby box is free and your midwife will help you register for it.

During your 20 to 24 week antenatal appointment your midwife will:

explain the baby box to you and ask if you would like one

fill in a baby box registration card with you

arrange delivery

You don't need to do anything else. You'll get the baby box between weeks 32 to 36 of pregnancy.

Those who don’t need one don’t register for it. Simple really.

Not totally accurate. I never opted in for a baby box and still received one in the hospital as did the other six women that were in the ward with me.

The above is taken from scot gov website.

You didn’t opt either though or given the option to. That’s administration failure on your and those others local health care dept. "

Hows that my fault?????????

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By *ering SeaMan over a year ago

Penicuik

absolutely

same with free baby boxes when females give birth, Scotland has gone mad.

And thats bad because ????? giving a wee helping hand to a wee family for there newborn ? C'mon no one should grudge that

when the family are financially secure they have no need of a baby box and many simply throw away the contents

then absolutely no need for one.

Scotland has gone mad.

All newborn babies in Scotland will be given a box of essential items, containing things like:

clothes, from newborn up to 6 months

a digital ear thermometer

a bath towel

a changing mat

books

The box also has a mattress, mattress protector and a fitted sheet.

How you get your baby box

The baby box is free and your midwife will help you register for it.

During your 20 to 24 week antenatal appointment your midwife will:

explain the baby box to you and ask if you would like one

fill in a baby box registration card with you

arrange delivery

You don't need to do anything else. You'll get the baby box between weeks 32 to 36 of pregnancy.

Those who don’t need one don’t register for it. Simple really.

Not totally accurate. I never opted in for a baby box and still received one in the hospital as did the other six women that were in the ward with me.

The above is taken from scot gov website.

You didn’t opt either though or given the option to. That’s administration failure on your and those others local health care dept.

Hows that my fault?????????

It’s admins failure. But equally you could have just said hey don’t bother with a baby box.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wow...

The I'm ok so screw the rest of you attitude is shocking!.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple over a year ago

Falkirk

absolutely

same with free baby boxes when females give birth, Scotland has gone mad.

And thats bad because ????? giving a wee helping hand to a wee family for there newborn ? C'mon no one should grudge that

when the family are financially secure they have no need of a baby box and many simply throw away the contents

then absolutely no need for one.

Scotland has gone mad.

All newborn babies in Scotland will be given a box of essential items, containing things like:

clothes, from newborn up to 6 months

a digital ear thermometer

a bath towel

a changing mat

books

The box also has a mattress, mattress protector and a fitted sheet.

How you get your baby box

The baby box is free and your midwife will help you register for it.

During your 20 to 24 week antenatal appointment your midwife will:

explain the baby box to you and ask if you would like one

fill in a baby box registration card with you

arrange delivery

You don't need to do anything else. You'll get the baby box between weeks 32 to 36 of pregnancy.

Those who don’t need one don’t register for it. Simple really.

Not totally accurate. I never opted in for a baby box and still received one in the hospital as did the other six women that were in the ward with me.

The above is taken from scot gov website.

You didn’t opt either though or given the option to. That’s administration failure on your and those others local health care dept.

Hows that my fault?????????

It’s admins failure. But equally you could have just said hey don’t bother with a baby box. "

Yep did that and the box was left with the reception nurse at the ward then given to my husband when he left during visiting.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And your hubby could have said.no thanks we have got everything

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple over a year ago

Falkirk

"And your hubby could have said.no thanks we have got everything

He could have. But he assumed it was something he had to take as he was presented it when he left the ward not in front of me and would have told him otherwise.

Failing to see your point as usual

The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just hazarding a guess that the people objecting to this have never had cause to rely on them, or have never recovered a free handout in their life.

Its embarassing to see people so upset about other humans getting support. God forbid that you ever have to rely on any of it yourself.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The fact is more prob use it than dont.

Just because you didnt.dosnt mean others wont.

I fail to see why folk dont think this is a good thing.everyone means about governments being out of touch with real people and lining their pockets and the min they actually do a good thing its shot down by people who actually dont need it.not thepeople who do.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple over a year ago

Falkirk

"The fact is more prob use it than dont.

Just because you didnt.dosnt mean others wont.

I'm not arguing the case with those that need it getting one.

My point was to a poster that quoted off the Scottish Goverment website.

I didn't get any option to opt in or opt out it was obviously automatically generated through the system when I registered.

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By *mmixtapeCouple over a year ago

middle earth

Ok so the ending period poverty campaign started out at a Scottish Youth Parliament campaign. The point is if we give them out as readily as we give out condoms there will never be someone with a uterus (not just girl) who goes through a day without access to safe sanitary products.

We live in a capitalist society, we are taxed, the Scottish government can more than afford to give people in need sanitary products. It's not the world gone crazy, it's ensuring that people don't need to miss out on education or work because they are bleeding. I think every person who has a period has been caught out and been stuck with a toilet paper pad. This benefits everyone that bleeds from their uterus from people who will rely on free sanitary products, to people who are just caught out, to students, people who have lost jobs etc.

You don't have to take sanitary products from the government, and it's not a legal obligation to take your baby box either

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" I think every person who has a period has been caught out and been stuck with a toilet paper pad. This benefits everyone that bleeds from their uterus from people who will rely on free sanitary products, to people who are just caught out, to students, people who have lost jobs etc. "

And if guys had this plumbing, you can guarantee it wouldn't still be an issue.

If anyone is confused about the effects of period poverty, or seeks to marginalise the issue, I'm happy to discuss my first-hand experiences as a youth worker in Raploch. It's the 21st century, and girls shouldn't have to consider suicide because they can't access a simple product.

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By *eoeclipseWoman over a year ago

glasgow

I remember when I was younger, there was often sanitary products in machines in toilets, toilet attendants would have them & nurses/female gym teachers in schools, you often had to ask but they were there for free or you could ask a friend.

What happened? When did periods become a shameful thing? Is more my questions

It's a good idea & there should be no need for the shame or lack of availability.

My only issue is that I wish they were giving out sustainable options more, they last longer & therefore we'd give out less, however I understand this can be daunting with cleaning issues and still some may not have access to hot/boiling water to wash/sterilize.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As if the poor aren't stigmatised enough people want them to have to stand out from the crowd with their begging hands make it free for all women and more folk won't feel ostracised from Society or charity cases, lots of high school children in Scotland don't use their free school meals and would rather go without lunch each day than have everyone know they get a free lunch because their parents can't afford it!

I personally welcome it, and just because people appear to be able to afford necessities doesn't mean to say even they get their priorities right when it comes to their children

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By *ering SeaMan over a year ago

Penicuik

"And your hubby could have said.no thanks we have got everything

He could have. But he assumed it was something he had to take as he was presented it when he left the ward not in front of me and would have told him otherwise.

Failing to see your point as usual

The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

Strange the box was presented other than the normal delivered to a registered address.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In this day and age the fact that young girls have to go to school with rolled up toilet paper in their pants or rags or miss school because they haven't got access to sanitary products is an outrage , I agree if u can afford them then buy them but they should be made accessible for everyone as it will save the embarrassment of having to ask for them , for a young girl taking a period is a traumatic experience and having to beg for sanitary products would only just add to the trauma, alot of young girls get embarrassed buying them from a shop so I can only imagine what it would be like having to beg for them , and to the guy that said they were 25p from Tesco point me in the direction of the store as I've never heard of 25p sanitary products , I find it laughable that guys actually have an opinion on this as it's not as if they'll ever have to understand what it's like to have a period .

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By *ering SeaMan over a year ago

Penicuik

"I find it laughable that guys actually have an opinion on this as it's not as if they'll ever have to understand what it's like to have a period ."

Anyone is entitled to post on a thread. Find

A bit of a sweeping statement.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sanitary products are a necessity.most that can afford will still buy them.its the woman and young girl that cant that will most benefit.as a woman I find your comment very selfish.

Here here

People don't realise how many 'normal' famalies live in the bottom 5%. Most of whom have someone in the family in employment.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I find it laughable that guys actually have an opinion on this as it's not as if they'll ever have to understand what it's like to have a period .

Anyone is entitled to post on a thread. Find

A bit of a sweeping statement. "

Aye I get that I just find it strange that never having to go through a period that theres so many opinions towards it from men , I never said you shouldn't comment on the thread what I'm saying is however much it's your opinion the fact that is men have never had to go through a period so cant possible know what it's like, never had to experience getting caught out in public when you come on early never had to expierence leakage and the embarrassment it causes , the truth of the matter is you'll never need to know what it's like. I for one will buy my sanitary products but to know if ever there comes a time I might for whatever reason need access to them is good to know that I can ,what about the people having to use food banks they cant afford to feed their families let alone provide sanitary products .

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By *ering SeaMan over a year ago

Penicuik

"I find it laughable that guys actually have an opinion on this as it's not as if they'll ever have to understand what it's like to have a period .

Anyone is entitled to post on a thread. Find

A bit of a sweeping statement.

Think I know first hand if you’ve read my earlier post. Seeing distraught people living from a food bank and helping personally with period poverty.

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By *ornyhappyCouple over a year ago

perth

Having previously worked with young people, & encountered families where they genuinely didn't have money to buy these basic necessities, I think this is a great thing.

The people who don't need free sanitary products will most likely still buy their own, but for those who are living in poverty this will make a huge difference.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I find it laughable that guys actually have an opinion on this as it's not as if they'll ever have to understand what it's like to have a period .

Anyone is entitled to post on a thread. Find

A bit of a sweeping statement.

Think I know first hand if you’ve read my earlier post. Seeing distraught people living from a food bank and helping personally with period poverty. "

Have you ever experienced a period personally ? Felt the cramps come on , been taken unawares wearing light coloured clothing , I wasnt having a dig at you was just stating a man will never be able to understand what it is like for a girl/woman , heaven forbid what it would be like if u couldnt for whatever reason not be able to afford the products ,however good intentioned you have been to which is commendable you will never know

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By *rgoodnbadMan over a year ago

greenock

"Wow...

The I'm ok so screw the rest of you attitude is shocking!."

Agree, I'm a little surprised that no one on here has mentioned that menstruation is a totally natural occurrence, not a choice. Tampons aren't a luxury nor a want, they're a need, a necessity for half of the planet's population.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Nothing worse even when you think you've taken all the necessary precautions and packed a few in the picket just in case but without warning it's floods and you still end up flooding your underwear and have to find the nearest loo to pack your knickers with toilet paper till you can get home and change, thankfully I'm fairly regular and generally know when a bad one's coming but still get caught out, my pal however she wasn't so lucky and amount of taxis never mind buses wouldn't let her in when she had a really bad time, hospitalised on at least 20 ocasssions and put in a drio but then after 3 transfusions she got a hysterectomy at 24 because it was that bad, I'd love to personally get the coil or something but can't get anything even the pill doesn't agree with me so I'm stuck with them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm all for free sanitary products, baby boxes and free prescriptions.

A society is be judged by how it treats it's most vulnerable members.

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By *luebell888Woman over a year ago

Glasgowish

"I'm all for free sanitary products, baby boxes and free prescriptions.

A society is be judged by how it treats it's most vulnerable members."

It would have more money to spend on the poor and vulnrable if it was not giving out freebies to the very wealthy folk. Just my opinion.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple over a year ago

Falkirk

"And your hubby could have said.no thanks we have got everything

He could have. But he assumed it was something he had to take as he was presented it when he left the ward not in front of me and would have told him otherwise.

Failing to see your point as usual

The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

Strange the box was presented other than the normal delivered to a registered address.

The box was delivered to the ward at Falkirk hospital.

Don't no where your trying to go with this????

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just remember everyone. Nothing in life is free. Its free at the point of contact. Every tax payer makes a contribution. Its not politicians money. Its ours.......

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm all for free sanitary products, baby boxes and free prescriptions.

A society is be judged by how it treats it's most vulnerable members.

It would have more money to spend on the poor and vulnrable if it was not giving out freebies to the very wealthy folk. Just my opinion."

But this falls down because of the amount money it takes to implement means testing.

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By *ering SeaMan over a year ago

Penicuik

"The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

Strange the box was presented other than the normal delivered to a registered address.

The box was delivered to the ward at Falkirk hospital.

Don't no where your trying to go with this????

I've already drawn my own conclusion

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By *andsCouple over a year ago

Edin

"The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

Strange the box was presented other than the normal delivered to a registered address.

The box was delivered to the ward at Falkirk hospital.

Don't no where your trying to go with this????

I've already drawn my own conclusion "

These boxes are not delivered to hospitals, they are delivered to homes at least 4 weeks prior to the baby due date!

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By *xXgemmaXxXCouple over a year ago

Glasgow

"The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

Strange the box was presented other than the normal delivered to a registered address.

The box was delivered to the ward at Falkirk hospital.

Don't no where your trying to go with this????

I've already drawn my own conclusion

These boxes are not delivered to hospitals, they are delivered to homes at least 4 weeks prior to the baby due date! "

Yip 2 of my friends at work have just had babies and there’s were delivered to their homes around 4 weeks ago

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By *luebell888Woman over a year ago

Glasgowish

"The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

Strange the box was presented other than the normal delivered to a registered address.

The box was delivered to the ward at Falkirk hospital.

Don't no where your trying to go with this????

I've already drawn my own conclusion

These boxes are not delivered to hospitals, they are delivered to homes at least 4 weeks prior to the baby due date! "

Not true in years gone by. I collected both mine from Boots in 1992 and 1997 after being given a voucher.

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By *luebell888Woman over a year ago

Glasgowish

"The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

Strange the box was presented other than the normal delivered to a registered address.

The box was delivered to the ward at Falkirk hospital.

Don't no where your trying to go with this????

I've already drawn my own conclusion

These boxes are not delivered to hospitals, they are delivered to homes at least 4 weeks prior to the baby due date!

Not true in years gone by. I collected both mine from Boots in 1992 and 1997 after being given a voucher."

And that was after they were born not before

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By *andsCouple over a year ago

Edin

"The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

Strange the box was presented other than the normal delivered to a registered address.

The box was delivered to the ward at Falkirk hospital.

Don't no where your trying to go with this????

I've already drawn my own conclusion

These boxes are not delivered to hospitals, they are delivered to homes at least 4 weeks prior to the baby due date!

Not true in years gone by. I collected both mine from Boots in 1992 and 1997 after being given a voucher."

Nope these are different boxes the ones mentioned above were part of a new government initiative ... your box would have contained things like baby wipes, money off vouchers, sample disposable nappies etc etc but nothing comparable to these.

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By *ering SeaMan over a year ago

Penicuik

"The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

Strange the box was presented other than the normal delivered to a registered address.

The box was delivered to the ward at Falkirk hospital.

Don't no where your trying to go with this????

I've already drawn my own conclusion

These boxes are not delivered to hospitals, they are delivered to homes at least 4 weeks prior to the baby due date! "

Exactly

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By *luebell888Woman over a year ago

Glasgowish

"The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

Strange the box was presented other than the normal delivered to a registered address.

The box was delivered to the ward at Falkirk hospital.

Don't no where your trying to go with this????

I've already drawn my own conclusion

These boxes are not delivered to hospitals, they are delivered to homes at least 4 weeks prior to the baby due date!

Exactly

Maybe different Health boards work in different ways.

I must admit the contents of mine i could have afforded to buy but i accepted it as a gift. Its nice to feel apppreciated when you contribute to the population.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

Strange the box was presented other than the normal delivered to a registered address.

The box was delivered to the ward at Falkirk hospital.

Don't no where your trying to go with this????

I've already drawn my own conclusion

These boxes are not delivered to hospitals, they are delivered to homes at least 4 weeks prior to the baby due date!

Exactly

Are you seriously calling someone a liar, how do you know they never received a box from the hospital. ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

Strange the box was presented other than the normal delivered to a registered address.

The box was delivered to the ward at Falkirk hospital.

Don't no where your trying to go with this????

I've already drawn my own conclusion

These boxes are not delivered to hospitals, they are delivered to homes at least 4 weeks prior to the baby due date!

Exactly

Maybe different Health boards work in different ways.

I must admit the contents of mine i could have afforded to buy but i accepted it as a gift. Its nice to feel apppreciated when you contribute to the population."

Things have obviously progressed in the last 20 years

As an aside, for folks who supposedly have open and progressive attitude towards sex, there's still a lot of narrow minded thinking being demonstrated

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By *xXgemmaXxXCouple over a year ago

Glasgow

"The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

Strange the box was presented other than the normal delivered to a registered address.

The box was delivered to the ward at Falkirk hospital.

Don't no where your trying to go with this????

I've already drawn my own conclusion

These boxes are not delivered to hospitals, they are delivered to homes at least 4 weeks prior to the baby due date!

Exactly

Are you seriously calling someone a liar, how do you know they never received a box from the hospital. ?"

https://www.parentclub.scot/baby-box

I don’t think anybody is saying anyone is lying just that normally the box is delivered to the address given when you fill in the card to register that you want one

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

Strange the box was presented other than the normal delivered to a registered address.

The box was delivered to the ward at Falkirk hospital.

Don't no where your trying to go with this????

I've already drawn my own conclusion

These boxes are not delivered to hospitals, they are delivered to homes at least 4 weeks prior to the baby due date!

Exactly

Are you seriously calling someone a liar, how do you know they never received a box from the hospital. ?

https://www.parentclub.scot/baby-box

I don’t think anybody is saying anyone is lying just that normally the box is delivered to the address given when you fill in the card to register that you want one "

Yes I understand that but the person said she never registered for one, how do you or anyone else know that a staff member perhaps asked her if she had registered, she replied no, and the staff ordered for her and delivery was the hospital, just a thought.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

Strange the box was presented other than the normal delivered to a registered address.

The box was delivered to the ward at Falkirk hospital.

Don't no where your trying to go with this????

I've already drawn my own conclusion

These boxes are not delivered to hospitals, they are delivered to homes at least 4 weeks prior to the baby due date!

Exactly

Are you seriously calling someone a liar, how do you know they never received a box from the hospital. ?

https://www.parentclub.scot/baby-box

I don’t think anybody is saying anyone is lying just that normally the box is delivered to the address given when you fill in the card to register that you want one

I guess nobody knows.

But people don't need to take ' free ' stuff when it's given, especially if they have no need for it.

Most would just ask why they were being given it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Having helped out at my local food bank and bought products from my own pocket I know only to well this is a welcome addition to a forward progressive society.

112 votes in favour and none against shows that even cross party politics can work.

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By *ering SeaMan over a year ago

Penicuik

"The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one"

"Are you seriously calling someone a liar, how do you know they never received a box from the hospital. ?"

"It’s really easy to sign up for your Baby Box. When you’re about 20-24 weeks pregnant, your midwife will fill in a Baby Box registration card with you at your regular antenatal appointment.

Your midwife will send this card away to register you for your Baby Box, so you won’t need to do anything else.

Your Baby Box will arrive at least 4 weeks before your baby’s due date.

How will it be delivered?

Your Baby Box will be delivered to the address that you put on your registration card. You will get a text, email or letter (whatever you have told us you prefer) the week before your box will be dispatched. The carrier will then be in touch with your tracking details and an estimated time slot for delivery.

What if my address changes?

If your address changes, you should contact scotlandsbabybox@theapsgroup.com or phone 0800 030 8003 quoting the registration number on the leaflet you were given at your 20-24 week midwife appointment."

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By *ering SeaMan over a year ago

Penicuik

"I must admit the contents of mine i could have afforded to buy but i accepted it as a gift. Its nice to feel apppreciated when you contribute to the population."

The current scheme introduced 15 August 2017

Scotland's first Baby Box was delivered on the 15 August 2017 and since then over 115,000 boxes have been delivered – with uptake now at 96 per cent. Scotland's Baby Box aims to help tackle deprivation, improve health and support parents.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I must admit the contents of mine i could have afforded to buy but i accepted it as a gift. Its nice to feel apppreciated when you contribute to the population.

The current scheme introduced 15 August 2017

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I must admit the contents of mine i could have afforded to buy but i accepted it as a gift. Its nice to feel apppreciated when you contribute to the population.

The current scheme introduced 15 August 2017

If you call someone a liar perhaps you should do your research first. Don't just copy and paste the first website you find.

During the baby box development stage it is was clearly documented that most parents would prefer delivery by post however some would be willing and able to collect from distribution centres AND OR NHS premises. Or is maternity wards no longer NHS premises. As already said we will never no for sure but calling someone out without being sure is bang out of order.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hoped to pop back in to catch up on period poverty chat, but still that ***ing baby box

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By *ering SeaMan over a year ago

Penicuik

"I must admit the contents of mine i could have afforded to buy but i accepted it as a gift. Its nice to feel apppreciated when you contribute to the population.

The current scheme introduced 15 August 2017

If you call someone a liar perhaps you should do your research first. Don't just copy and paste the first website you find.

Can you show me where I called someone a lier ?

Then maybe you can sign back into your couples account

I’m pasting facts. We can all make our own minds up.

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By *assy LassieWoman over a year ago

Lanarkshire

"And your hubby could have said.no thanks we have got everything

He could have. But he assumed it was something he had to take as he was presented it when he left the ward not in front of me and would have told him otherwise.

Failing to see your point as usual

The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

I would rather a few people who didn't need the boxes/ sanitary products got them rather than a lot who do need them not get them. We live in an inclusive country let's help our fellow man woman child. Everyone needs a wee helping hand now and again and I'm proud that our wee country is leading the way in many ways.

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By *assy LassieWoman over a year ago

Lanarkshire

"The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

Strange the box was presented other than the normal delivered to a registered address.

The box was delivered to the ward at Falkirk hospital.

Don't no where your trying to go with this????

I've already drawn my own conclusion

These boxes are not delivered to hospitals, they are delivered to homes at least 4 weeks prior to the baby due date!

Not true in years gone by. I collected both mine from Boots in 1992 and 1997 after being given a voucher."

Thats was the bounty packs bluebell. Think there were 3 in total. Money off vouchers and sample size testers from companies. Nothing to do with government. You could get one when pregnant. One at hospital when baby was born and one when due for weaning.

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By *mmixtapeCouple over a year ago

middle earth

The idea came from Sweden I believe. Introduced the baby box and say infant mortality rates go down. They are a great idea and literally just give people a little hand.

Back to period poverty shall we, I don't get how anyone could be against the distribution of free sanitary products

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By *luebell888Woman over a year ago

Glasgowish

"The idea came from Sweden I believe. Introduced the baby box and say infant mortality rates go down. They are a great idea and literally just give people a little hand.

Back to period poverty shall we, I don't get how anyone could be against the distribution of free sanitary products "

Not to some but to everyone yes. It was first suggested it would cost 9millions now estimated more than double that figure. I would rather the money be spent on social housing and feeding the hungry.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Poverty is often disguised.

I think this is a wonderful initiative.

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By *lienrockMan over a year ago

Fife

Poverty is something young people need more help with than ever. In the past decades ago you had the weekly paid husband handing over housekeeping & the average family poverty could be caused by the odd bloke who pissed it away or other issues. Now society is seeing the results of a full 3rd generation wasters & never worked brigade, there will be loads of young kids dealing with a harder school life than people are aware of. parents who don't give a fuck or are junked out! this is in the same category as kids should all be given a meal at school at least once a day & teenage lads could maybe do with razors & shaving foam. I guess the financial problem is where is it fair to stop.. should all 13 year olds get free deodorant & spot cream? Scotland does lead the way but it's a never ending process of trying to improve using taxpayer funds whilst dealing with naysayers. We still have people stuck with the more English/ American view of being tight fisted selfish fuckers who want to participate in a society, work, use the roads, hospitals, council provided parks etc whilst going about treating people like shit and not wanting to contribute any tax towards paying for the society.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The idea came from Sweden I believe. Introduced the baby box and say infant mortality rates go down. They are a great idea and literally just give people a little hand.

Back to period poverty shall we, I don't get how anyone could be against the distribution of free sanitary products

Not to some but to everyone yes. It was first suggested it would cost 9millions now estimated more than double that figure. I would rather the money be spent on social housing and feeding the hungry."

The people who are hungry also probably can’t afford sanitary products.

Them being free means the 12 yr old kid doesn’t have to miss school or maybe have to use loo roll. As I sure as hell wouldn’t have gone cap in hand at that age and asked for towels.

I think you’re doing a disservice to those who can afford assuming they’ll abuse it.

The measure of a civilised society is how we treat our most vulnerable.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The fact we got a box even though we didn't ask for one

Strange the box was presented other than the normal delivered to a registered address.

The box was delivered to the ward at Falkirk hospital.

Don't no where your trying to go with this????

I've already drawn my own conclusion

These boxes are not delivered to hospitals, they are delivered to homes at least 4 weeks prior to the baby due date!

Exactly

Maybe different Health boards work in different ways.

I must admit the contents of mine i could have afforded to buy but i accepted it as a gift. Its nice to feel apppreciated when you contribute to the population.

Things have obviously progressed in the last 20 years

As an aside, for folks who supposedly have open and progressive attitude towards sex, there's still a lot of narrow minded thinking being demonstrated "

Narrow minds in Scotland forum, who’d have thought it!!!

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By *alcon43Woman over a year ago

Paisley

A guy at work received the baby box last year and he’s what I’d consider to be well off and even he was surprised at how useful the box and contents were.

As for sanitary products, imagine a house with a mother and two daughters and the £3 a month becomes £10 easily. Someone may have heavy periods or have endometriosis. I think it’s about time females had access to sanitary products if they require them. I know a trans female who carries sanitary products and has given them to females when caught out. It’s also becoming more common to find sanitary products in the bathrooms of cafes and bars and I don’t see them being abused.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sanitary products are a necessity.most that can afford will still buy them.its the woman and young girl that cant that will most benefit.as a woman I find your comment very selfish.

I agree with that. Well said. Thats why im for indie 2 because SNO csres for its country

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sanitary products are a necessity.most that can afford will still buy them.its the woman and young girl that cant that will most benefit.as a woman I find your comment very selfish.

I agree with that. Well said. Thats why im for indie 2 because SNP cares for its country "

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By *luebell888Woman over a year ago

Glasgowish

"Sanitary products are a necessity.most that can afford will still buy them.its the woman and young girl that cant that will most benefit.as a woman I find your comment very selfish.

I agree with that. Well said. Thats why im for indie 2 because SNP cares for its country "

Nicola Sturgeon was against this due to the cost but has obviously changed her mind as she knows most of her party are turning against her. I would be more concerned and asking why children are living with junkies and not getting cared for at home.

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By *40ffCouple over a year ago

Anstruther

Having grown up in a family that couldn't afford anything like this I'm lucky enough to not have to worry about buying my own girls products maybe of people havent had to miss school or learn how to use loo roll as pads wont understand why making it for everyone removes the stigma that comes with being so poor you cant afford pads its normally hard enough for a child in poverty to be bullied for wearing stuff that dont fit due to being given it without having to go and ask for pads too the uni I'm at dose have a table with pads and tampons as well as having them in bathrooms this means children will be able to attend classes without the worry of leaking on to seats or trousers it's not about if u can afford it buy it cus if u can u wont think twice about it this is about ending the stigmatization of people in poverty and scotland are fast moving in the right direction !!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'd rather not politicise a thread that has, at its heart, an issue that is about compassion. The same compassion that means we also offer help and support to "junkies" and "alcoholics" (never mind that the flippant use of these labels also exposes ignorance and entitlement).

Nobody chooses to be an addict, and it's often an awful cycle of poverty, social deprivation and stigma that means people become trapped in these circumstances. I would encourage anyone who dismisses, marginalises or politicises these things, to get off their high horses and spend a bit of time volunteering or working with those who can't get by without the extra help. It might change your outlook, and inspire a little kindness and compassion.

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By *awty_MissDynomiteNo1Woman over a year ago

No idea, I'm lost. Damn Sat nav!

"I'd rather not politicise a thread that has, at its heart, an issue that is about compassion. The same compassion that means we also offer help and support to "junkies" and "alcoholics" (never mind that the flippant use of these labels also exposes ignorance and entitlement).

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Giving every female in Scotlamd free sanitary products. But i do not agree with free prescriptions for everyone either."

I don't believe in FREE prescriptions either to a certain degree. Many benefit spongers enjoy the privilege too fund their incapacity. I'm pretty sure these type of people dispose of the medication which costs money. But..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up.” ~ Jesse Jackson

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Giving every female in Scotlamd free sanitary products. But i do not agree with free prescriptions for everyone either.

Judgemental much?!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It’s a positive step towards making sure that Scotland is a society where everyone’s basic needs are met. A long way to go, but small steps will get us there, and this one will help huge numbers of people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Giving every female in Scotlamd free sanitary products. But i do not agree with free prescriptions for everyone either.

Judgemental much?!

I'm not so sure it's totally judgemental, as I said in an earlier post (I think). For every good action or law that is passed there is someone out there that will abuse or take advantage of it. It would be nice if everyone's moral compass was strong and everyone did the right thing. For example I would never dream of clogging up my GP's surgery for a cold or script for paracetamol for many reasons. As I also said earlier it's good the offer is there, I'd rather it was and it helped some than it wasn't and someone suffered. Alas I have no idea how you stop those that abuse such things or taking something for nothing just because it's there

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Thank you to all who have messaged regarding this conversation. Behind all the risqué profile pics and innuendo, there are some genuinely caring and considerate people

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Giving every female in Scotlamd free sanitary products. But i do not agree with free prescriptions for everyone either.

Judgemental much?!

Have you ever the very reason that we pay National insurance is so we dont gave to pay overthe earth for items and while we pay NI were already paying for it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Giving every female in Scotlamd free sanitary products. But i do not agree with free prescriptions for everyone either.

Judgemental much?!

Have you ever the very reason that we pay National insurance is so we dont gave to pay overthe earth for items and while we pay NI were already paying for it "

I'm unsure what you're point is? In terms of how our country runs the public pay for most things. What I was pointing out is that human beings being human beings they tend to take advantage of things brought into place to help others. Our national health service is one of those things and our Social Services is another. I'm sure I don't have to give examples of that. I do think that of the money taken in various kinds of tax etc is not used to best advantage i.e. the "cake" is not cut up evenly.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Giving every female in Scotlamd free sanitary products. But i do not agree with free prescriptions for everyone either.

Judgemental much?!

Have you ever the very reason that we pay National insurance is so we dont gave to pay overthe earth for items and while we pay NI were already paying for it

The point is we slready pay for most thing through National insurance contributions. Which we means we woukd be psying for our prescriptions twice

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By *mmixtapeCouple over a year ago

middle earth

Hahaha well at least I know who not to have sex with from this post, thanks OP

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hahaha well at least I know who not to have sex with from this post, thanks OP"

I’m finding the politics threads very good for this as well. Don’t want to have to stop wearing my “Never kissed a Tory” badge. :p

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hahaha well at least I know who not to have sex with from this post, thanks OP

I’m finding the politics threads very good for this as well. Don’t want to have to stop wearing my “Never kissed a Tory” badge. :p"

Haha sounds like the kiss of death to me lol. Politics finished now lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Giving every female in Scotlamd free sanitary products. But i do not agree with free prescriptions for everyone either.

Judgemental much?!

Have you ever the very reason that we pay National insurance is so we dont gave to pay overthe earth for items and while we pay NI were already paying for it

The point is we slready pay for most thing through National insurance contributions. Which we means we woukd be psying for our prescriptions twice "

Yep I get that, but it's not really what the post was aiming at. Looking at taxation, we pay several ways for the same thing through various taxes but thanks for the point

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By *mmixtapeCouple over a year ago

middle earth

I also find it funny how there was a comment about young people being expectant. We are not. We are unfortunately just looked down upon by older people because the younger generation tend to be more accepting and care about their neighbors. Regardless of political position, left or right wing, I don't know any young people who would ever be so stupid to think that things like free health care, prescriptions, condoms and sanitary products are ever a bad thing. Call us soft, but I'd rather have empathy than care about the rich becoming richer. What is the point in living a life where all you care about is the figure in your bank rather than the people around you.

If we were to get rid of completely free services a "pay what you can" service would be the only feesible way to do this. There is no way that in out current financial situation (thanks boomers) that we should ever expect people to pay for things that we can very very easily fund through national insurance, and if we can't why not tax the people that make more than £50,000 a year a bit more national insurance

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I also find it funny how there was a comment about young people being expectant. We are not. We are unfortunately just looked down upon by older people because the younger generation tend to be more accepting and care about their neighbors. Regardless of political position, left or right wing, I don't know any young people who would ever be so stupid to think that things like free health care, prescriptions, condoms and sanitary products are ever a bad thing. Call us soft, but I'd rather have empathy than care about the rich becoming richer. What is the point in living a life where all you care about is the figure in your bank rather than the people around you.

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By *mmixtapeCouple over a year ago

middle earth

"Hahaha well at least I know who not to have sex with from this post, thanks OP

I’m finding the politics threads very good for this as well. Don’t want to have to stop wearing my “Never kissed a Tory” badge. :p

Haha sounds like the kiss of death to me lol. Politics finished now lol"

Unfortunately I kissed an incognito UKIP voter, dated him for a few weeks then found out and dumped that shit faster than the morning after a vindaloo

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hahaha well at least I know who not to have sex with from this post, thanks OP

I’m finding the politics threads very good for this as well. Don’t want to have to stop wearing my “Never kissed a Tory” badge. :p

Haha sounds like the kiss of death to me lol. Politics finished now lol

Unfortunately I kissed an incognito UKIP voter, dated him for a few weeks then found out and dumped that shit faster than the morning after a vindaloo"

Oh dear. I’m so sorry. I can’t imagine the horror of that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Giving every female in Scotlamd free sanitary products. But i do not agree with free prescriptions for everyone either.

You sound like a channel 5 fan

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By *andACouple over a year ago

glasgow

"The idea came from Sweden I believe. Introduced the baby box and say infant mortality rates go down. They are a great idea and literally just give people a little hand.

Back to period poverty shall we, I don't get how anyone could be against the distribution of free sanitary products "

It was Finland. It wasn't the baby boxes that reduced infant mortality rates it was the requirement to accept the support that came along with them. Unfortunately Scotgov decided not to bring in the important part (the support) so it's just a giveaway rather than something that has a targetted outcome (reducing infant mortality)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hahaha well at least I know who not to have sex with from this post, thanks OP"

It doesn't really help you knowing who you will have sex with either.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Giving every female in Scotlamd free sanitary products. But i do not agree with free prescriptions for everyone either.

Judgemental much?!

It was tarring all those in receipt of benefits.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Giving every female in Scotlamd free sanitary products. But i do not agree with free prescriptions for everyone either.

Judgemental much?!

It was tarring all those in receipt of benefits."

I believe the comment referred to benefit scroungers not ALL those in receipt of benefits??

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By *ering SeaMan over a year ago

Penicuik

" Unfortunately Scotgov decided not to bring in the important part (the support) so it's just a giveaway rather than something that has a targetted outcome (reducing infant mortality)"

Care to elaborate on the support not provided ?

Your post makes no sense other than snp bashing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Really they should always have been made available freely, a positive way of using public funding when you consider the number off other things that are given out freely to too many hangers on in this country that should be withdrawn, however, that’s a different conversation for another day...

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By *andACouple over a year ago

glasgow

" Unfortunately Scotgov decided not to bring in the important part (the support) so it's just a giveaway rather than something that has a targetted outcome (reducing infant mortality)

Care to elaborate on the support not provided ?

Your post makes no sense other than snp bashing. "

Is anything that points out a flaw in government SNP bashing? Here's part of an article from SNP supporter Robin McAlpine from the Commonspace website, it's form a paragraph about good ideas gone bad:

"Another example is baby boxes. This policy was extracted from a much wider Finnish initiative and the Finns themselves consider it to be the least important part. In an attempt to modernise parenting skills they put in place a two-year process of supporting prospective and new parents with extensive training and agency support.

But they didn’t want to make it compulsory so they offered ‘baby boxes’ as an incentive for people to sign up. I know from the Finnish side that, when Scottish Government staffers did a fact-finding trip the Finns kept saying ‘no, you’re completely and utterly missing the point’. The Scots kept saying ‘we’re not interested, we only want to know what’s in the boxes’."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oxford professor Danny Dorling highlights the stark contrast between the English and Scottish approaches to healthcare... In Scotland they decided to actually spend more on infants and babies. And there, they have reduced the infant mortality rate

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Giving every female in Scotlamd free sanitary products. But i do not agree with free prescriptions for everyone either.

Judgemental much?!

It was tarring all those in receipt of benefits.

I believe the comment referred to benefit scroungers not ALL those in receipt of benefits??

But you do realise often in the media people on benefits are portrayed as scroungers and therefore it’s become a common held view that that’s the norm?

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By *ering SeaMan over a year ago

Penicuik

" Unfortunately Scotgov decided not to bring in the important part (the support) so it's just a giveaway rather than something that has a targetted outcome (reducing infant mortality)

Care to elaborate on the support not provided ?

Your post makes no sense other than snp bashing.

The box aims to give parents and newborns the best start. There is a wealth of support provided from the parenting club and midwife association.

Extensive research to find out exactly what contents and support should be available.

To quote mortality rates and the scot gov is disingenuous.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Giving every female in Scotlamd free sanitary products. But i do not agree with free prescriptions for everyone either.

Judgemental much?!

It was tarring all those in receipt of benefits.

I believe the comment referred to benefit scroungers not ALL those in receipt of benefits??

But you do realise often in the media people on benefits are portrayed as scroungers and therefore it’s become a common held view that that’s the norm?"

I do indeed get your point and yes it’s infuriating that people in need don’t get a benefit they are entitled too. Likewise it’s sickening when you see someone working or abusing the system. I think this underlines what everyone is saying really.

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By *andACouple over a year ago

glasgow

" Unfortunately Scotgov decided not to bring in the important part (the support) so it's just a giveaway rather than something that has a targetted outcome (reducing infant mortality)

Care to elaborate on the support not provided ?

Your post makes no sense other than snp bashing.

The box aims to give parents and newborns the best start. There is a wealth of support provided from the parenting club and midwife association.

Extensive research to find out exactly what contents and support should be available.

To quote mortality rates and the scot gov is disingenuous. "

The claims about mortality rates were made by the Scottish Government. First Minister and various MPs and MSPs claimed they reduced infant mortality. Problem is, that's not true.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/09/snp-baby-box-expert-safety-concerns

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/no-evidence-baby-boxes-reduce-deaths-say-finnish-government-295468

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They should be made available especially as girls age 11 get periods. If contraception is free why not sanity products. This would be very handy in public toilets , available to use just as much as toilet roll, soap and hand towels. Sanitary products don't need to be top brand , you can buy a packet for 50p. I don't hear any issues with free contraception available to all. Some people will still buy their own others won't care about the quality as long as it's effective. I think it's a step in the right direction.

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By *ering SeaMan over a year ago

Penicuik

" Unfortunately Scotgov decided not to bring in the important part (the support) so it's just a giveaway rather than something that has a targetted outcome (reducing infant mortality)

Care to elaborate on the support not provided ?

Your post makes no sense other than snp bashing.

The box aims to give parents and newborns the best start. There is a wealth of support provided from the parenting club and midwife association.

Extensive research to find out exactly what contents and support should be available.

To quote mortality rates and the scot gov is disingenuous.

The claims about mortality rates were made by the Scottish Government. First Minister and various MPs and MSPs claimed they reduced infant mortality. Problem is, that's not true.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/09/snp-baby-box-expert-safety-concerns

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/no-evidence-baby-boxes-reduce-deaths-say-finnish-government-295468"

You’ve quoted 2 establishment newspapers so the slant would be obvious.

I wouldn’t think a box Would reduce mortality more than any other baby bed such as a Moses basket or crib.

It’s a great initiative and we all know how out of context quotes work in the media.

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By *andACouple over a year ago

glasgow

" Unfortunately Scotgov decided not to bring in the important part (the support) so it's just a giveaway rather than something that has a targetted outcome (reducing infant mortality)

Care to elaborate on the support not provided ?

Your post makes no sense other than snp bashing.

The box aims to give parents and newborns the best start. There is a wealth of support provided from the parenting club and midwife association.

Extensive research to find out exactly what contents and support should be available.

To quote mortality rates and the scot gov is disingenuous.

The claims about mortality rates were made by the Scottish Government. First Minister and various MPs and MSPs claimed they reduced infant mortality. Problem is, that's not true.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/09/snp-baby-box-expert-safety-concerns

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/no-evidence-baby-boxes-reduce-deaths-say-finnish-government-295468

You’ve quoted 2 establishment newspapers so the slant would be obvious.

I wouldn’t think a box Would reduce mortality more than any other baby bed such as a Moses basket or crib.

It’s a great initiative and we all know how out of context quotes work in the media. "

Establishment newspapers? The Guardian? They include extensive quotes from various sources but if you're reduced to claiming that everything is somehow made up then that says it all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They should be made available especially as girls age 11 get periods. If contraception is free why not sanity products. This would be very handy in public toilets , available to use just as much as toilet roll, soap and hand towels. Sanitary products don't need to be top brand , you can buy a packet for 50p. I don't hear any issues with free contraception available to all. Some people will still buy their own others won't care about the quality as long as it's effective. I think it's a step in the right direction. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Unfortunately Scotgov decided not to bring in the important part (the support) so it's just a giveaway rather than something that has a targetted outcome (reducing infant mortality)

Care to elaborate on the support not provided ?

Your post makes no sense other than snp bashing.

The box aims to give parents and newborns the best start. There is a wealth of support provided from the parenting club and midwife association.

Extensive research to find out exactly what contents and support should be available.

To quote mortality rates and the scot gov is disingenuous.

The claims about mortality rates were made by the Scottish Government. First Minister and various MPs and MSPs claimed they reduced infant mortality. Problem is, that's not true.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/09/snp-baby-box-expert-safety-concerns

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/no-evidence-baby-boxes-reduce-deaths-say-finnish-government-295468"

So are you against it? Yes or no

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By *ering SeaMan over a year ago

Penicuik

" Unfortunately Scotgov decided not to bring in the important part (the support) so it's just a giveaway rather than something that has a targetted outcome (reducing infant mortality)

Care to elaborate on the support not provided ?

Your post makes no sense other than snp bashing.

The box aims to give parents and newborns the best start. There is a wealth of support provided from the parenting club and midwife association.

Extensive research to find out exactly what contents and support should be available.

To quote mortality rates and the scot gov is disingenuous.

The claims about mortality rates were made by the Scottish Government. First Minister and various MPs and MSPs claimed they reduced infant mortality. Problem is, that's not true.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/09/snp-baby-box-expert-safety-concerns

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/no-evidence-baby-boxes-reduce-deaths-say-finnish-government-295468

You’ve quoted 2 establishment newspapers so the slant would be obvious.

I wouldn’t think a box Would reduce mortality more than any other baby bed such as a Moses basket or crib.

It’s a great initiative and we all know how out of context quotes work in the media.

Establishment newspapers? The Guardian? They include extensive quotes from various sources but if you're reduced to claiming that everything is somehow made up then that says it all.

If you think the guardian is impartial your claim is as deluded as your point.

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By *ola cubesMan over a year ago

coatbridge

"Well done Monica Lennon MSP...Scottish Parliament usually bans things, you've made something happen that actually reduces inequality. Grown up politics...whatever next?!"
how does spending money on one gender reduce inequality some folk love a soundbite

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple over a year ago

Falkirk

" Unfortunately Scotgov decided not to bring in the important part (the support) so it's just a giveaway rather than something that has a targetted outcome (reducing infant mortality)

Care to elaborate on the support not provided ?

Your post makes no sense other than snp bashing.

The box aims to give parents and newborns the best start. There is a wealth of support provided from the parenting club and midwife association.

Extensive research to find out exactly what contents and support should be available.

To quote mortality rates and the scot gov is disingenuous.

The claims about mortality rates were made by the Scottish Government. First Minister and various MPs and MSPs claimed they reduced infant mortality. Problem is, that's not true.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/09/snp-baby-box-expert-safety-concerns

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/no-evidence-baby-boxes-reduce-deaths-say-finnish-government-295468

You’ve quoted 2 establishment newspapers so the slant would be obvious.

I wouldn’t think a box Would reduce mortality more than any other baby bed such as a Moses basket or crib.

It’s a great initiative and we all know how out of context quotes work in the media.

Establishment newspapers? The Guardian? They include extensive quotes from various sources but if you're reduced to claiming that everything is somehow made up then that says it all.

He has made up his mind, he knows better and woe betide anyone that says otherwise.

He is yet another "expert" on the fab forum.