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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Sooo other half trying to talk me into a night at cjs... he’s been before, I’ve never been... but we’re only looking for single guys so I’m worried that might be a problem lol?  he’s reassured me it’s fine and everyone’s friendly etc but we’re not looking for couples and I feel it would be a good place if u were looking to meet other couples but mission impossible to meet decent single men? Thoughts/advice plz  |
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over a year ago
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Thanks ladies. He’s saying to go to a couples night at first and chat to people etc as it’s usually all decent ppl and maybe get recommendations of single guys. Heard a lot of horror stories about single males at cjs so a bit unsure if we’d find anyone there we’d like to play with. Still really unsure about going but I’ll have a think about it x |
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"Thanks ladies. He’s saying to go to a couples night at first and chat to people etc as it’s usually all decent ppl and maybe get recommendations of single guys. Heard a lot of horror stories about single males at cjs so a bit unsure if we’d find anyone there we’d like to play with. Still really unsure about going but I’ll have a think about it x"
Never listen to gossip. Go yourself and judge for yourself. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I keep reading and seeing females saying there are no decent guys on here, well I for one am one, I am always super respectful, polite and well mannered and have h7ge respect for ladies regardless of colour age or size, the prob is most men in here seem to think all they have to do is message a female and her knickers fall off, those are not real genuine decent guys so pls ladies remember that there are plenty of good honest decent men on here who know how to treat a lady correctly, we all ain't sex crazed Neanderthals.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I keep reading and seeing females saying there are no decent guys on here, well I for one am one, I am always super respectful, polite and well mannered and have h7ge respect for ladies regardless of colour age or size, the prob is most men in here seem to think all they have to do is message a female and her knickers fall off, those are not real genuine decent guys so pls ladies remember that there are plenty of good honest decent men on here who know how to treat a lady correctly, we all ain't sex crazed Neanderthals.."
I never said there’s no decent guys on here ... there’s is loads of timewasters yes but if ur patient there is a minority of decent guys... but from what I’ve heard a lot of guys at cjs are not going to be our cup of tea lol so didn’t want to go if we’re not going to find a young handsome stallion to join us for some fun  x |
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By *uboCouple
over a year ago
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I never said there’s no decent guys on here ... there’s is loads of timewasters yes but if ur patient there is a minority of decent guys... but from what I’ve heard a lot of guys at cjs are not going to be our cup of tea lol so didn’t want to go if we’re not going to find a young handsome stallion to join us for some fun x"
Maybe you should either stop listening to others and go find out for yourself, or consider the fact that CJ's is not for you and do your own choosing from the "minority of decent guys" that are on here. |
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I've never come across single guys at a fun for all night who overstepped any boundaries. They actually do understand the meaning of no. And couples you'll find at couples and female nights in general aren't looking for guys, so not sure why you'd want to ask them for "recommendations", or whatever you'd call it x |
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"Out of the multiple cj post on here it's usually the females stating how pissed they were so iv not seen any posts about the standard of guys ...yet  "
The multiple CJs post actually can give you a good idea who to expect mind! Including some of the single guys.
OP, it might be worthwhile keeping tabs on those x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I've never come across single guys at a fun for all night who overstepped any boundaries. They actually do understand the meaning of no. And couples you'll find at couples and female nights in general aren't looking for guys, so not sure why you'd want to ask them for "recommendations", or whatever you'd call it x"
It was Dong who said that not me hence why I posted asking as I thought the same, there would be no point x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I never said there’s no decent guys on here ... there’s is loads of timewasters yes but if ur patient there is a minority of decent guys... but from what I’ve heard a lot of guys at cjs are not going to be our cup of tea lol so didn’t want to go if we’re not going to find a young handsome stallion to join us for some fun x
Maybe you should either stop listening to others and go find out for yourself, or consider the fact that CJ's is not for you and do your own choosing from the "minority of decent guys" that are on here."
I’m on asking for a bit of advice! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Out of the multiple cj post on here it's usually the females stating how pissed they were so iv not seen any posts about the standard of guys ...yet
The multiple CJs post actually can give you a good idea who to expect mind! Including some of the single guys.
OP, it might be worthwhile keeping tabs on those x"
Ok cheers. Only posted looking for a bit of advice as I don’t know what to expect and Dong will say anything to get me there lol!! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Out of the multiple cj post on here it's usually the females stating how pissed they were so iv not seen any posts about the standard of guys ...yet "
I’ve been told a few horror stories by a few different people now lol x |
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"I keep reading and seeing females saying there are no decent guys on here, well I for one am one, I am always super respectful, polite and well mannered and have h7ge respect for ladies regardless of colour age or size, the prob is most men in here seem to think all they have to do is message a female and her knickers fall off, those are not real genuine decent guys so pls ladies remember that there are plenty of good honest decent men on here who know how to treat a lady correctly, we all ain't sex crazed Neanderthals..
I never said there’s no decent guys on here ... there’s is loads of timewasters yes but if ur patient there is a minority of decent guys... but from what I’ve heard a lot of guys at cjs are not going to be our cup of tea lol so didn’t want to go if we’re not going to find a young handsome stallion to join us for some fun x"
Maybe a young handsome stallion wont want to have fun with you. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I keep reading and seeing females saying there are no decent guys on here, well I for one am one, I am always super respectful, polite and well mannered and have h7ge respect for ladies regardless of colour age or size, the prob is most men in here seem to think all they have to do is message a female and her knickers fall off, those are not real genuine decent guys so pls ladies remember that there are plenty of good honest decent men on here who know how to treat a lady correctly, we all ain't sex crazed Neanderthals..
I never said there’s no decent guys on here ... there’s is loads of timewasters yes but if ur patient there is a minority of decent guys... but from what I’ve heard a lot of guys at cjs are not going to be our cup of tea lol so didn’t want to go if we’re not going to find a young handsome stallion to join us for some fun x
Maybe a young handsome stallion wont want to have fun with you."
Aye maybe they won’t eh!! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Honestly posted for a bit of advice as I was unsure and now getting this lol! Just confirms exactly what I thought about going to a club that they’re full of cliche bitchy folk who have nothing nice to say! I asked for advice as I’ve never been and didn’t know what to expect, I was hoping there would be some woman who were once in the same situation as me one time who could come on and offer some nice advice! Not tell me well young fit guys might not want to play with me  where is the need! Nothing nice to say then don’t say it at all fs  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Aye maybe they won’t eh!! "
You've made the cardinal error of suggesting CJs isnt the be all and end all of the Scottish scene. Hence the claws have come out for you.
I too have heard similar negative stories but, on flip side, friends I know and trust highly recommend it.
Very much depends on what you are looking for I guess. Only way to find out is to head along with an open mind. If it's not for you then head home and all you've lost is your £30 or so.
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"Honestly posted for a bit of advice as I was unsure and now getting this lol! Just confirms exactly what I thought about going to a club that they’re full of cliche bitchy folk who have nothing nice to say! I asked for advice as I’ve never been and didn’t know what to expect, I was hoping there would be some woman who were once in the same situation as me one time who could come on and offer some nice advice! Not tell me well young fit guys might not want to play with me where is the need! Nothing nice to say then don’t say it at all fs "
Welcome to the Scottish forum This is why i don't really post on here, things will be taken out of context and you're under attack before you know it. Really only use it for keeping tabs who's goimg to clubs and parties.
Can kind of understand why some people took it the wrong way mind. It's the single guys stigma, that for a lot of guys is unfair. Plenty decent, handsome and fun men to be found on here and at the clubs. Only a hand full of them who have the "wanna fuck" attitude - and lets face it, there are females on here with the same outlook x |
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Aye maybe they won’t eh!!
You've made the cardinal error of suggesting CJs isnt the be all and end all of the Scottish scene. Hence the claws have come out for you.
I too have heard similar negative stories but, on flip side, friends I know and trust highly recommend it.
Very much depends on what you are looking for I guess. Only way to find out is to head along with an open mind. If it's not for you then head home and all you've lost is your £30 or so.
Good luck. "
Think it went wrong when recommendations about guys from couples was mentioned. Nothing to do with do or don't go to a club x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Aye maybe they won’t eh!!
You've made the cardinal error of suggesting CJs isnt the be all and end all of the Scottish scene. Hence the claws have come out for you.
I too have heard similar negative stories but, on flip side, friends I know and trust highly recommend it.
Very much depends on what you are looking for I guess. Only way to find out is to head along with an open mind. If it's not for you then head home and all you've lost is your £30 or so.
Good luck. "
Thanks graham! I also know ppl who highly recommend it, but I feared that was because they are happy to play with couples and girls. Don’t know anyone who’s looking for single guys and had heard some can be quite pushy etc. Just didn’t want to go and have all my fears come true lol x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Honestly posted for a bit of advice as I was unsure and now getting this lol! Just confirms exactly what I thought about going to a club that they’re full of cliche bitchy folk who have nothing nice to say! I asked for advice as I’ve never been and didn’t know what to expect, I was hoping there would be some woman who were once in the same situation as me one time who could come on and offer some nice advice! Not tell me well young fit guys might not want to play with me where is the need! Nothing nice to say then don’t say it at all fs
Welcome to the Scottish forum This is why i don't really post on here, things will be taken out of context and you're under attack before you know it. Really only use it for keeping tabs who's goimg to clubs and parties.
Can kind of understand why some people took it the wrong way mind. It's the single guys stigma, that for a lot of guys is unfair. Plenty decent, handsome and fun men to be found on here and at the clubs. Only a hand full of them who have the "wanna fuck" attitude - and lets face it, there are females on here with the same outlook x"
I genuinely didn’t mean to offend anyone... we get loads of msgs daily from single guys who just can’t take the hint, constant pictures of cocks etc lol ppl who haven’t really read our profile so wasting their own time and ours. I know all guys aren’t like that on here and we’ve met quite a few decent ones but at the same time there is heaps of timewasters and folk that can’t take no for an answer. I just didn’t want to turn up to a club I’m already nervous and unsure about going to for it to be full of these types of men lol! Was hoping someone would come on and say we’re into the same thing and there’s loads of nice decent guys go along haha x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Honestly posted for a bit of advice as I was unsure and now getting this lol! Just confirms exactly what I thought about going to a club that they’re full of cliche bitchy folk who have nothing nice to say! I asked for advice as I’ve never been and didn’t know what to expect, I was hoping there would be some woman who were once in the same situation as me one time who could come on and offer some nice advice! Not tell me well young fit guys might not want to play with me where is the need! Nothing nice to say then don’t say it at all fs lol so if this is what there like not at a club..what they like in it! 
Good luck whatever you do...I'd say if your feeling really nervous at least you have your partner there to hold your hand..as slot say your under no obligation to play on the night so maybe go and just observe.me personally find clubs far too clique but judging by your pictures I'm sure you will have no shortage of Male attention. "
Thank you! That’s been my worry so might just give it a miss xx |
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We're heading to CJs on the 14th, we'll also be looking for single guys as well as couples. As we are a stag and vixen couple it'll only be me that would be playing whilst G watches, not all couples are looking for that.
What we've started doing is putting a status and meet up saying we're going and what we're looking for, and hopefully can chat to a few potential playmates beforehand. So we can have a little idea if anyone there might tickle our pickle |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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Go, see what you think...
If you are attracted to someone, ask them if they are interested in playing.
Respect their answer.
If you don’t like it, leave and consider not going back
Different clientele will give a different vibe. Some nice, some not.
Give it a try
People are so funny here on the holy CJ grail.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"We're heading to CJs on the 14th, we'll also be looking for single guys as well as couples. As we are a stag and vixen couple it'll only be me that would be playing whilst G watches, not all couples are looking for that.
What we've started doing is putting a status and meet up saying we're going and what we're looking for, and hopefully can chat to a few potential playmates beforehand. So we can have a little idea if anyone there might tickle our pickle "
That’s a good idea! Would be nice to chat to ppl who are looking for the same sort of thing as us as most seem to be into couples and girls so would be good to get advice from ppl looking for the same x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Go, see what you think...
If you are attracted to someone, ask them if they are interested in playing.
Respect their answer.
If you don’t like it, leave and consider not going back
Different clientele will give a different vibe. Some nice, some not.
Give it a try
People are so funny here on the holy CJ grail. "
Thank you! Just need to get the correct night to go to be in with the best chance lol! Xx |
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By *ullpa72Man
over a year ago
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Hi op as a single bi guy I have visited cj's twice .Once for a TV party and the second was today for a greedy girls afternoon party .on both occasions both the staff and the customers were very friendly and helpful to a new guy .I know that our perspective is different but I would recommend you go .I think you will be pleasantly surprised . |
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Why not try a greedy girls night. Plenty of single guys there I'm sure. Not a night I have attended right enough.
As a single female who has attended other nights though, I've certainly never been pestered by single guys.
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Ive been the same about going to a club. Never been to one and not interested in playing with couples or girls. Tbh wont likely play at all first time even with my friend
But im going to After8 on Saturday and going to see what I think myself. We had spoke about CJs then seen it was couples night so decided not to go there.. We both dont get a lot of time off so After8 it is. Been speaking to some people who have reassured me about it all as I am really nervous. Think its the only way to judge if its for you or not. If I dont like it or feel comfortable then we just leave |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sooo other half trying to talk me into a night at cjs... he’s been before, I’ve never been... but we’re only looking for single guys so I’m worried that might be a problem lol? he’s reassured me it’s fine and everyone’s friendly etc but we’re not looking for couples and I feel it would be a good place if u were looking to meet other couples but mission impossible to meet decent single men? Thoughts/advice plz "
It’s a good night regardless and the single males is a hit and miss sometimes lots of gorgeous men young and old, other times it’s like someone shook the ugly tree and they all fell out hitting every branch on the way down lol
Sometimes all the munters have the best personalities sometimes the lookers are all arseholes !
Honestly I’m not a bitch hahha |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Honestly posted for a bit of advice as I was unsure and now getting this lol! Just confirms exactly what I thought about going to a club that they’re full of cliche bitchy folk who have nothing nice to say! I asked for advice as I’ve never been and didn’t know what to expect, I was hoping there would be some woman who were once in the same situation as me one time who could come on and offer some nice advice! Not tell me well young fit guys might not want to play with me where is the need! Nothing nice to say then don’t say it at all fs "
Some of the folk commenting don’t go to clubs and always slag them off at every opportunity so wouldn’t pay too much notice tbh |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Iv actually tried cjs a few times and the reason we stopped was because not 1 time we went we played mostly older clientelle and wee bit larger than we preferred..but as others have said..its all about preferences on what your looking for. |
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"Iv actually tried cjs a few times and the reason we stopped was because not 1 time we went we played mostly older clientelle and wee bit larger than we preferred..but as others have said..its all about preferences on what your looking for."
Defo a lot of younger ones going nowadays it’s defo spread into the under 25s in a massive way probably because of all the sites available out there nowadays |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why not try a greedy girls night. Plenty of single guys there I'm sure. Not a night I have attended right enough.
As a single female who has attended other nights though, I've certainly never been pestered by single guys.
R "
I wouldn’t recommend it as a first time. I’ve had to be pretty firm to men who think I’m there and therefore can just touch and attempt without any manners.
It’s fine if you’re familiar with scene and can handle yourself. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Why not try a greedy girls night. Plenty of single guys there I'm sure. Not a night I have attended right enough.
As a single female who has attended other nights though, I've certainly never been pestered by single guys.
R
I wouldn’t recommend it as a first time. I’ve had to be pretty firm to men who think I’m there and therefore can just touch and attempt without any manners.
It’s fine if you’re familiar with scene and can handle yourself. "
Lol oh I can handle myself.... but I’d prob get barred my first time there if that happened lol x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Thanks for all the nice helpful replies folks I’ve had a few pms from ppl to which has been very helpful the ppl who had nothing helpful to say will be the types I’ll be keeping well away from if I do pluck up the courage to go sometime. Will stick to the nice helpful ones x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You trying to get into my bloomers doggy?? "
Don't you play hard to get now lady...we both know I could slide on into them there big Bridget Jones belly warmers any time I fancied....
(Kidding ...before you hammer me! ) |
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By *palfruityCouple
over a year ago
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"Thanks for all the nice helpful replies folks I’ve had a few pms from ppl to which has been very helpful the ppl who had nothing helpful to say will be the types I’ll be keeping well away from if I do pluck up the courage to go sometime. Will stick to the nice helpful ones x"
When we visit we are usually after single guys for S to watch me with. We've gone on different types of night and always found someone/several someones to happily play with. Everyone has also always approached us very respectfully and I've never felt uncomfortable or that we were being harassed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Aye maybe they won’t eh!!
You've made the cardinal error of suggesting CJs isnt the be all and end all of the Scottish scene. Hence the claws have come out for you.
I too have heard similar negative stories but, on flip side, friends I know and trust highly recommend it.
Very much depends on what you are looking for I guess. Only way to find out is to head along with an open mind. If it's not for you then head home and all you've lost is your £30 or so.
Good luck.
Thanks graham! I also know ppl who highly recommend it, but I feared that was because they are happy to play with couples and girls. Don’t know anyone who’s looking for single guys and had heard some can be quite pushy etc. Just didn’t want to go and have all my fears come true lol x"
As a single fem who only meets single guys and have been going to cjs for years i can honestly say the lads are great laugh friendly and so has everyone else ive met over the years. Altho i have yet to go to the new place as work and kids had taken over for a while . If you take a fancy to a lad on fab let them know you are attending meet them there and take it from there. But honestly if respect is given its given back . Go with attitude it wont be a good night out . Think of it as your out for drinks in a bar in a new town . Get talking to folk . You will soon see they are a cracking bunch of folk . Just chill and enjoy it as a social night untill you feel you want to play. Safest way to start . Good luck x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You trying to get into my bloomers doggy??
Don't you play hard to get now lady...we both know I could slide on into them there big Bridget Jones belly warmers any time I fancied....
(Kidding ...before you hammer me! )"
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"You trying to get into my bloomers doggy??
Don't you play hard to get now lady...we both know I could slide on into them there big Bridget Jones belly warmers any time I fancied....
(Kidding ...before you hammer me! )hubby dosnt call me parachute pants for nothing you know "
Well then...in that case...prepare for landing! |
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"I keep reading and seeing females saying there are no decent guys on here, well I for one am one, I am always super respectful, polite and well mannered and have h7ge respect for ladies regardless of colour age or size, the prob is most men in here seem to think all they have to do is message a female and her knickers fall off, those are not real genuine decent guys so pls ladies remember that there are plenty of good honest decent men on here who know how to treat a lady correctly, we all ain't sex crazed Neanderthals.."
Decent guys rarely have to try so hard to convince folk how decent they are |
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"We're heading to CJs on the 14th, we'll also be looking for single guys as well as couples. As we are a stag and vixen couple it'll only be me that would be playing whilst G watches, not all couples are looking for that.
What we've started doing is putting a status and meet up saying we're going and what we're looking for, and hopefully can chat to a few potential playmates beforehand. So we can have a little idea if anyone there might tickle our pickle
That’s a good idea! Would be nice to chat to ppl who are looking for the same sort of thing as us as most seem to be into couples and girls so would be good to get advice from ppl looking for the same x"
We’d like to find a guy in our area that can be a regular meet for me, sometimes with G there and other times on my own but it’s proving really difficult. I’ve been here for 7 years and it’s gradually got worse for fakes and instashag guys, and most of the guys who do respect our profile and send decent messages aren’t my type, sadly. Plenty I’m happy to chat with but no more than that. And finding a lady to meet with is even worse!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Wow peeps bit hard on her no??? No need for claws to come out . It's everyone right to be asking questions about CJ's ,When you haven't been somewhere and have different people with different points of _iew on a place , you can't blame anyone for being unsure about the place. We will usually take note of the negatives rather than positives from people we speak to but the absolute best things to do is go on a night to just check it out the two of you , have a drink , mingle , have a laugh and get the feel for the place and make your own judgement ,so when you do chat to the many decent guys on fab and there are alot, plan a night , mention about meeting at cjs for a drink now that you have seen for yourself and see how it goes. Fun for all night is a good night. I seen alot of sexy dudes there but it's always different people go on different nights.
Truth be told cjs is not everyone's cup of tea , that's a fact, couple who we had met on a social drinks before cjs walked in and straight back out due to lack of class , décor but it was their choice, lovely couple just wasn't for them . Then myself and hubby walked in and we liked it and we have class but not snobby nor disapproving opinions , people we met were not all to our liking some pushy some not, some hot some not, but it's up to us to decided how we deal with that, be respectful and truthful , cjs has rules and you set your boundries . Everyday life is the exact same , some people we will chose to stay clear of others or we choose to befriend.
We booked in on Saturday for couples and females night but I know a few guys and their FB/fwb partners who are going just to have fun and the guys are pretty decent and sexy looking , some couples choose to do their own thing without the other and its probably where you will meet a decent guy wanting to join a couple .
Give it a go and see for yourself and make your own judgement on it.
It's just a night out after all with a little fun to follow.
It will be our second time going and we are looking forward to the social aspect of it , the mingling , meeting new friends like minded , good chat and alot of fun whether that be just a good night having a laugh or having sexy fun .
Curiousity is not good. Lol |
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"Wow peeps bit hard on her no??? No need for claws to come out . It's everyone right to be asking questions about CJ's ,When you haven't been somewhere and have different people with different points of _iew on a place , you can't blame anyone for being unsure about the place. We will usually take note of the negatives rather than positives from people we speak to but the absolute best things to do is go on a night to just check it out the two of you , have a drink , mingle , have a laugh and get the feel for the place and make your own judgement ,so when you do chat to the many decent guys on fab and there are alot, plan a night , mention about meeting at cjs for a drink now that you have seen for yourself and see how it goes. Fun for all night is a good night. I seen alot of sexy dudes there but it's always different people go on different nights.
Truth be told cjs is not everyone's cup of tea , that's a fact, couple who we had met on a social drinks before cjs walked in and straight back out due to lack of class , décor but it was their choice, lovely couple just wasn't for them . Then myself and hubby walked in and we liked it and we have class but not snobby nor disapproving opinions , people we met were not all to our liking some pushy some not, some hot some not, but it's up to us to decided how we deal with that, be respectful and truthful , cjs has rules and you set your boundries . Everyday life is the exact same , some people we will chose to stay clear of others or we choose to befriend.
We booked in on Saturday for couples and females night but I know a few guys and their FB/fwb partners who are going just to have fun and the guys are pretty decent and sexy looking , some couples choose to do their own thing without the other and its probably where you will meet a decent guy wanting to join a couple .
Give it a go and see for yourself and make your own judgement on it.
It's just a night out after all with a little fun to follow.
It will be our second time going and we are looking forward to the social aspect of it , the mingling , meeting new friends like minded , good chat and alot of fun whether that be just a good night having a laugh or having sexy fun .
Curiousity is not good. Lol "
Thanks for such a positive reply will see what happens and if I decide I’ll try it then I’ll say to some of the guys we’ve been chatting to and see if they fancy it xx |
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As someone who used to go as a solo female with no prior knowledge of the scene, it was more about feeling safe & comfortable. Cj’s staff look out for everyone and although I attended greedy girls nights, the guys were respectful about who I chose to play with.
Even now as a couple, we help newbies with pointers such as don’t get d*unk, get chatting and don’t assume you’ll get any play (this applies to both sexes) and be respectful of people’s decisions/their own rules.
Just get a feel for the place and if you think you’d like it. They have different nights, so just avoid couples & females as ppl have already said^.
But I’ve made some firm friends there, some of whom I meet up with socially in the ‘vanilla’ world and have a great laugh with.
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