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over a year ago
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"What a low blow... totally against this!!! "
Mr has refused to pay ours for years.
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"What a low blow... totally against this!!!
Mr has refused to pay ours for years.
(Off topic but someone blocked me in the Lounge once for admitting that! )"
Don't pay either, haven't for years, don't have a live feed coming into the house, even took down our aerial recently. Open the door to TV licence people and tell them no thank you, smile and close the door
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"What a low blow... totally against this!!!
Mr has refused to pay ours for years.
(Off topic but someone blocked me in the Lounge once for admitting that! )"
Ohhhh you rebel (or Mr is lol) that's a ridiculous thing to block for - nowt like folk mind you   |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What a low blow... totally against this!!!
Mr has refused to pay ours for years.
(Off topic but someone blocked me in the Lounge once for admitting that! )
Don't pay either, haven't for years, don't have a live feed coming into the house, even took down our aerial recently. Open the door to TV licence people and tell them no thank you, smile and close the door
John "
I think a lot of folk now don't - but wee pensioners ffs... that's dire!! |
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Totally against the licence fee full stop ,But if have to pay this diabolical tax then will just say ,Some over 75s can afford it more than some working tax paying folks can ,So age should not be a factor in who pays but income certainly should for everyone 16 and over
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Totally against the licence fee full stop ,But if have to pay this diabolical tax then will just say ,Some over 75s can afford it more than some working tax paying folks can ,So age should not be a factor in who pays but income certainly should for everyone 16 and over
Just my opinion of course "
Of course and you do have a good point there but a hell of a lot will struggle and I do think if you're over 75 a few wee concessions are earned - bus pass tv licence etc |
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"Totally against the licence fee full stop ,But if have to pay this diabolical tax then will just say ,Some over 75s can afford it more than some working tax paying folks can ,So age should not be a factor in who pays but income certainly should for everyone 16 and over
Just my opinion of course
Of course and you do have a good point there but a hell of a lot will struggle and I do think if you're over 75 a few wee concessions are earned - bus pass tv licence etc
Of course they should I think what really gets my goat is blind folks have to pay 50 percent I think that is bloody disgusting....its a tele..vision licence bound folks have no vision "
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"Totally against the licence fee full stop ,But if have to pay this diabolical tax then will just say ,Some over 75s can afford it more than some working tax paying folks can ,So age should not be a factor in who pays but income certainly should for everyone 16 and over
Just my opinion of course
Of course and you do have a good point there but a hell of a lot will struggle and I do think if you're over 75 a few wee concessions are earned - bus pass tv licence etc
Of course they should I think what really gets my goat is blind folks have to pay 50 percent I think that is bloody disgusting....its a tele..vision licence bound folks have no vision "
 . Blind folk have to pay ffs!!!! That's just greed |
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"Totally against the licence fee full stop ,But if have to pay this diabolical tax then will just say ,Some over 75s can afford it more than some working tax paying folks can ,So age should not be a factor in who pays but income certainly should for everyone 16 and over
Just my opinion of course
Of course and you do have a good point there but a hell of a lot will struggle and I do think if you're over 75 a few wee concessions are earned - bus pass tv licence etc
Of course they should I think what really gets my goat is blind folks have to pay 50 percent I think that is bloody disgusting....its a tele..vision licence bound folks have no vision "
Ffs put your glasses on before typing monkey bound should read blind |
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Didn't pay one for years, during a bereavement last year as clearly not thinking a relative opened the door invited them in.
Gave me a £300 fine for their troubles had to be paid within 28 days he said I was lucky it wasn't a £1000.
Only lucky one was him this wee 4.11 red head hadn't ripped him a new arsehole. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What a low blow... totally against this!!!
Mr has refused to pay ours for years.
(Off topic but someone blocked me in the Lounge once for admitting that! )
Ohhhh you rebel (or Mr is lol) that's a ridiculous thing to block for - nowt like folk mind you "
I actually answered the door to the guy and said "Wee minute mate...cannae hear you....need to turn the tele down! " |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What a low blow... totally against this!!!
Mr has refused to pay ours for years.
(Off topic but someone blocked me in the Lounge once for admitting that! )
Ohhhh you rebel (or Mr is lol) that's a ridiculous thing to block for - nowt like folk mind you
I actually answered the door to the guy and said "Wee minute mate...cannae hear you....need to turn the tele down! ""
 I bet that was totally lost on him  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Dont pay for 1 or have a live feed for many reasons one being bbc propapaganda, how long has over 75 received free tv licence? What im not surprised is a lot...a loottt of voters are elderly how they gonna manipulate them now without the bbc in their ear? Nae chance they use much internet kinda fucked it for themselves wi their political shams |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Can't believe they are doing this to pensioners it's just so wrong.we should be looking after our elderly population not taking money off them.
Off topic having to pay for there garden waste picked up another scandal.
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"Can't believe they are doing this to pensioners it's just so wrong.we should be looking after our elderly population not taking money off them.
Off topic having to pay for there garden waste picked up another scandal.
What's next?"
Before i continue let me be clear , yes its wrong changing the rules on people that get it free just now. Here comes the
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Its now becoming a population of more and more elderly people, as drugs improve and the whole western world is of the attitude , if you neglect the care we're suing yer azz . So more and more people are living to a very very old age. My simple question is where does governments get the money from to care for an aging population ? There is going to be a point where the NHS will cost too much money to keep going and private medical care for all will be mandatory, tv licences will be the last thing on pensioners minds.
In my opinion if they were going to start making them pay they should have said it will be starting in the future , say in 2 years time or so.
Tin hat on. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Can't believe they are doing this to pensioners it's just so wrong.we should be looking after our elderly population not taking money off them.
Off topic having to pay for there garden waste picked up another scandal.
What's next?
Before i continue let me be clear , yes its wrong changing the rules on people that get it free just now. Here comes the
But
Its now becoming a population of more and more elderly people, as drugs improve and the whole western world is of the attitude , if you neglect the care we're suing yer azz . So more and more people are living to a very very old age. My simple question is where does governments get the money from to care for an aging population ? There is going to be a point where the NHS will cost too much money to keep going and private medical care for all will be mandatory, tv licences will be the last thing on pensioners minds.
In my opinion if they were going to start making them pay they should have said it will be starting in the future , say in 2 years time or so.
Tin hat on. "
In actual fact you do have a point there and are taking a wider vision in a way however... taking an even wider vision - most of the worlds problems could be solved by the greedy just not being so greedy - big corporations, politicians, business etc etc. For example no one in the world needs to die of starvation there's more than enough food to go round - Likewise with the NHS, the great British Public need to be more responsible for their own health and also how they use it, running to the doc for a cold for example. It's society that needs to change and I really hope it does.
Mebbe we all need tin hats today |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Can't believe they are doing this to pensioners it's just so wrong.we should be looking after our elderly population not taking money off them.
Off topic having to pay for there garden waste picked up another scandal.
What's next?
Before i continue let me be clear , yes its wrong changing the rules on people that get it free just now. Here comes the
But
Its now becoming a population of more and more elderly people, as drugs improve and the whole western world is of the attitude , if you neglect the care we're suing yer azz . So more and more people are living to a very very old age. My simple question is where does governments get the money from to care for an aging population ? There is going to be a point where the NHS will cost too much money to keep going and private medical care for all will be mandatory, tv licences will be the last thing on pensioners minds.
In my opinion if they were going to start making them pay they should have said it will be starting in the future , say in 2 years time or so.
Tin hat on.
In actual fact you do have a point there and are taking a wider vision in a way however... taking an even wider vision - most of the worlds problems could be solved by the greedy just not being so greedy - big corporations, politicians, business etc etc. For example no one in the world needs to die of starvation there's more than enough food to go round - Likewise with the NHS, the great British Public need to be more responsible for their own health and also how they use it, running to the doc for a cold for example. It's society that needs to change and I really hope it does.
Mebbe we all need tin hats today "
Going way off at a tangent here but regarding the point about NHS and personal responsibility (which I agree with btw) where do you draw the line?
Seen arguments on here before about smokers getting treatment for cancer. "I've paid my taxes....I'm entitled to this!.....what about folk who play sports and get injuries? Those are self inflicted too?"
Not sure what the answer is but I do think people need to take a look at themselves whenever possible and stop looking at others to solve their problems. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Can't believe they are doing this to pensioners it's just so wrong.we should be looking after our elderly population not taking money off them.
Off topic having to pay for there garden waste picked up another scandal.
What's next?
Before i continue let me be clear , yes its wrong changing the rules on people that get it free just now. Here comes the
But
Its now becoming a population of more and more elderly people, as drugs improve and the whole western world is of the attitude , if you neglect the care we're suing yer azz . So more and more people are living to a very very old age. My simple question is where does governments get the money from to care for an aging population ? There is going to be a point where the NHS will cost too much money to keep going and private medical care for all will be mandatory, tv licences will be the last thing on pensioners minds.
In my opinion if they were going to start making them pay they should have said it will be starting in the future , say in 2 years time or so.
Tin hat on.
In actual fact you do have a point there and are taking a wider vision in a way however... taking an even wider vision - most of the worlds problems could be solved by the greedy just not being so greedy - big corporations, politicians, business etc etc. For example no one in the world needs to die of starvation there's more than enough food to go round - Likewise with the NHS, the great British Public need to be more responsible for their own health and also how they use it, running to the doc for a cold for example. It's society that needs to change and I really hope it does.
Mebbe we all need tin hats today
Going way off at a tangent here but regarding the point about NHS and personal responsibility (which I agree with btw) where do you draw the line?
Seen arguments on here before about smokers getting treatment for cancer. "I've paid my taxes....I'm entitled to this!.....what about folk who play sports and get injuries? Those are self inflicted too?"
Not sure what the answer is but I do think people need to take a look at themselves whenever possible and stop looking at others to solve their problems."
Come on doggy.. Personal responsibility.. You're having a laugh aren't you.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Can't believe they are doing this to pensioners it's just so wrong.we should be looking after our elderly population not taking money off them.
Off topic having to pay for there garden waste picked up another scandal.
What's next?
Before i continue let me be clear , yes its wrong changing the rules on people that get it free just now. Here comes the
But
Its now becoming a population of more and more elderly people, as drugs improve and the whole western world is of the attitude , if you neglect the care we're suing yer azz . So more and more people are living to a very very old age. My simple question is where does governments get the money from to care for an aging population ? There is going to be a point where the NHS will cost too much money to keep going and private medical care for all will be mandatory, tv licences will be the last thing on pensioners minds.
In my opinion if they were going to start making them pay they should have said it will be starting in the future , say in 2 years time or so.
Tin hat on.
In actual fact you do have a point there and are taking a wider vision in a way however... taking an even wider vision - most of the worlds problems could be solved by the greedy just not being so greedy - big corporations, politicians, business etc etc. For example no one in the world needs to die of starvation there's more than enough food to go round - Likewise with the NHS, the great British Public need to be more responsible for their own health and also how they use it, running to the doc for a cold for example. It's society that needs to change and I really hope it does.
Mebbe we all need tin hats today
Going way off at a tangent here but regarding the point about NHS and personal responsibility (which I agree with btw) where do you draw the line?
Seen arguments on here before about smokers getting treatment for cancer. "I've paid my taxes....I'm entitled to this!.....what about folk who play sports and get injuries? Those are self inflicted too?"
Not sure what the answer is but I do think people need to take a look at themselves whenever possible and stop looking at others to solve their problems."
Yep it's a big headache to find that line I agree. I was thinking more of folk that just go the doc for every wee thing looking for a cure - the cold is a prime example - almost everyone working in the NHS at every level will have stories of folk who go to the doc when that could be avoided or its something really minor. It's still a headache (ironically) though as sometimes minor symptoms can flag up more serious things. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Can't believe they are doing this to pensioners it's just so wrong.we should be looking after our elderly population not taking money off them.
Off topic having to pay for there garden waste picked up another scandal.
What's next?
Before i continue let me be clear , yes its wrong changing the rules on people that get it free just now. Here comes the
But
Its now becoming a population of more and more elderly people, as drugs improve and the whole western world is of the attitude , if you neglect the care we're suing yer azz . So more and more people are living to a very very old age. My simple question is where does governments get the money from to care for an aging population ? There is going to be a point where the NHS will cost too much money to keep going and private medical care for all will be mandatory, tv licences will be the last thing on pensioners minds.
In my opinion if they were going to start making them pay they should have said it will be starting in the future , say in 2 years time or so.
Tin hat on.
In actual fact you do have a point there and are taking a wider vision in a way however... taking an even wider vision - most of the worlds problems could be solved by the greedy just not being so greedy - big corporations, politicians, business etc etc. For example no one in the world needs to die of starvation there's more than enough food to go round - Likewise with the NHS, the great British Public need to be more responsible for their own health and also how they use it, running to the doc for a cold for example. It's society that needs to change and I really hope it does.
Mebbe we all need tin hats today
Going way off at a tangent here but regarding the point about NHS and personal responsibility (which I agree with btw) where do you draw the line?
Seen arguments on here before about smokers getting treatment for cancer. "I've paid my taxes....I'm entitled to this!.....what about folk who play sports and get injuries? Those are self inflicted too?"
Not sure what the answer is but I do think people need to take a look at themselves whenever possible and stop looking at others to solve their problems.
Come on doggy.. Personal responsibility.. You're having a laugh aren't you.. "
Mrs Doggy is right but so are you Jack lol |
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Sry OP thats my fault for going of tangent 
Last wee comment on it though if thats ok.
In my opinion no matter what any of us do to curb our habits or not use the doctors for minor ailments, the ageing population is just going to get older and older and the care costs are going to continually rise without limits.
The nhs current system and funding cannot be sustained. |
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"Not trying to agree with the BBC but your sky virgin and them service don’t do it for free and there will be a small group happily paying for them all they are doing is copying them "
The difference is these companys you sign up to. The licence fee is forced upon you. |
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"Not trying to agree with the BBC but your sky virgin and them service don’t do it for free and there will be a small group happily paying for them all they are doing is copying them
The difference is these companys you sign up to. The licence fee is forced upon you. "
And let's not forget. The BBC rake in billions from selling their good programmes around the world... So where does all the money go? |
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By *eep.Man
over a year ago
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Well they aren't going to make much money north of the border
With a population of 1.2 million in greater Glasgow, life expectancy at birth is 71.6 years for men, nearly seven years below the national average of 78.2 years, and 78 years for women, over four years below the national average of 82.3. |
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"Well they aren't going to make much money north of the border
With a population of 1.2 million in greater Glasgow, life expectancy at birth is 71.6 years for men, nearly seven years below the national average of 78.2 years, and 78 years for women, over four years below the national average of 82.3. "
Help ma boab... we're doomed... DOOMED ... |
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Going to throw out a controversial thought here given some of the earlier comments.....
There are a reasonable number of over 75s who can very clearly afford to pay for a tv licence. As well as bus fares, bridge tolls, prescriptions. You see the richest in our society are now hitting the 65+ mark. Huge houses, fancy cars, huge pension pots, financial advisors to get them the best tax breaks etc. etc. etc.
Now yes ...they have worked hard for it and I dont begrudge it one little bit (other than the fact they are the age group that vot3d for Brexit!!!) however.......
do they really need all the freebies? If they paid would it not make things easier for those who can't afford to (whatever their age).
For example.... I know of several couples over the age of 65 who use their free bus pass to get the bus down to their favourite michelin star restaurant at least once a week. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Sry OP thats my fault for going of tangent
Last wee comment on it though if thats ok.
In my opinion no matter what any of us do to curb our habits or not use the doctors for minor ailments, the ageing population is just going to get older and older and the care costs are going to continually rise without limits.
The nhs current system and funding cannot be sustained. "
Agreed but with both in a couple working full time there is no one at home to look after said aging sector... you're right in that both the NHS and our social services was never set up to deal with society as it is now - there's another problem - we expect the government to do EVERYTHING but then is it the government that is not cutting up the cake properly... jeeeeeze this has grown arms and legs lol |
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"Going to throw out a controversial thought here given some of the earlier comments.....
There are a reasonable number of over 75s who can very clearly afford to pay for a tv licence. As well as bus fares, bridge tolls, prescriptions. You see the richest in our society are now hitting the 65+ mark. Huge houses, fancy cars, huge pension pots, financial advisors to get them the best tax breaks etc. etc. etc.
Now yes ...they have worked hard for it and I dont begrudge it one little bit (other than the fact they are the age group that vot3d for Brexit!!!) however.......
do they really need all the freebies? If they paid would it not make things easier for those who can't afford to (whatever their age).
For example.... I know of several couples over the age of 65 who use their free bus pass to get the bus down to their favourite michelin star restaurant at least once a week. "
Yep there are but there is also a vast percentage of the population that are living on the bread line that will struggle |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Lots off good points in this discussion.
A word on the NHS.thank God we have it.its not perfect never will be.i for one really need the NHS.wish I didn't have too.
But it is what it is.
Fund the NHS and care system I say. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Hmmm, no more free TV licences for the over 75's and at the same time as that announcement they also announce they want to cut taxes for the higher paid.
Fair?"
ohhhhhhhhhh aye and MP's award themselves 14% pay rises and the like |
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By *tew008Man
over a year ago
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Might cancel my TV license don’t really need it or sky watch maybe one or two things a month. I don’t think it’s wrong for BBC, it’s wrong that they force it for all live TV.
Plus they are meant to be a public service providing British talent a platform which they do abit but on BBC3 online for some ridiculous reason. They are functioning as a commercial station which they shouldn’t really be and non bias. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don’t pay a tv licence had my arial removed I also don’t subscribe to sky or virgin, have Netflix and amazon prime in our house and even then it’s hardly used tbh we don’t watch tv in our house just movies and the very very occasional box set, haven’t watched tv for about 20 years now refuse to pay for piss poor services and propaganda, we have a tv in every room and none of them are being used kids just use their tablets or phones to watch anything, if I want to learn about the news I’ll look online but they I’m seriously contemplating cutting off the broadband at home as kids are spending far too much time online and they can use their pitiful data to play their games lol besides I can’t even connect to the WiFi in the house it’s that crap |
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"Going to throw out a controversial thought here given some of the earlier comments.....
There are a reasonable number of over 75s who can very clearly afford to pay for a tv licence. As well as bus fares, bridge tolls, prescriptions. You see the richest in our society are now hitting the 65+ mark. Huge houses, fancy cars, huge pension pots, financial advisors to get them the best tax breaks etc. etc. etc.
Now yes ...they have worked hard for it and I dont begrudge it one little bit (other than the fact they are the age group that vot3d for Brexit!!!) however.......
do they really need all the freebies? If they paid would it not make things easier for those who can't afford to (whatever their age).
For example.... I know of several couples over the age of 65 who use their free bus pass to get the bus down to their favourite michelin star restaurant at least once a week. "
Have a lot of them not already been paying their working lives a little extra to keep everyone else going by paying their 40% taxes ? And actually paying their council taxes etc whilst those who haven’t been working have been receiving benefits and council and housing benefits ? I’ve been in both positions paying more in tax that some two income families have earned and picking up benefits because I’m no longer fit to work ! Opinions like that are what make folk want to leave the uk and take their money with them |
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The richer pensioners will be the ones paying it next year but the poorer ones will not have to pay anything
I can’t believe the government has been paying it for all this time anyway, wouldnt it have been better to just make it a lot cheaper for everyone
The bbc makes loads of great shows and that costs so much and no annoying adverts but I wouldn’t object seeing adverts on bbc if it was free |
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"Going to throw out a controversial thought here given some of the earlier comments.....
There are a reasonable number of over 75s who can very clearly afford to pay for a tv licence. As well as bus fares, bridge tolls, prescriptions. You see the richest in our society are now hitting the 65+ mark. Huge houses, fancy cars, huge pension pots, financial advisors to get them the best tax breaks etc. etc. etc.
Now yes ...they have worked hard for it and I dont begrudge it one little bit (other than the fact they are the age group that vot3d for Brexit!!!) however.......
do they really need all the freebies? If they paid would it not make things easier for those who can't afford to (whatever their age).
For example.... I know of several couples over the age of 65 who use their free bus pass to get the bus down to their favourite michelin star restaurant at least once a week.
Have a lot of them not already been paying their working lives a little extra to keep everyone else going by paying their 40% taxes ? And actually paying their council taxes etc whilst those who haven’t been working have been receiving benefits and council and housing benefits ? I’ve been in both positions paying more in tax that some two income families have earned and picking up benefits because I’m no longer fit to work ! Opinions like that are what make folk want to leave the uk and take their money with them "
Ouch.... 
So suggesting that people who can afford to pay for their tv licence or bus fares, where they have sufficient spare cash, should continue to do so even though they are 75 is considered so controversial that it would encourage people to vote for Brexit?? Wow!!!! Thanks for the insight.
As with all these things ..its about the level you put the cut off at. I personally think the level they are cutting off at is too low. It shouldnt be about whether you are receiving benefits or not.... it should be about how much money (not tied up in your main house) you have. But unfortunately that is too complicated to calculate and so the level either goes to ... everyone gets it free.... or.... only the poorest of the poor get it free. Should be somewhere in between. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Going to throw out a controversial thought here given some of the earlier comments.....
There are a reasonable number of over 75s who can very clearly afford to pay for a tv licence. As well as bus fares, bridge tolls, prescriptions. You see the richest in our society are now hitting the 65+ mark. Huge houses, fancy cars, huge pension pots, financial advisors to get them the best tax breaks etc. etc. etc.
Now yes ...they have worked hard for it and I dont begrudge it one little bit (other than the fact they are the age group that vot3d for Brexit!!!) however.......
do they really need all the freebies? If they paid would it not make things easier for those who can't afford to (whatever their age).
For example.... I know of several couples over the age of 65 who use their free bus pass to get the bus down to their favourite michelin star restaurant at least once a week.
Have a lot of them not already been paying their working lives a little extra to keep everyone else going by paying their 40% taxes ? And actually paying their council taxes etc whilst those who haven’t been working have been receiving benefits and council and housing benefits ? I’ve been in both positions paying more in tax that some two income families have earned and picking up benefits because I’m no longer fit to work ! Opinions like that are what make folk want to leave the uk and take their money with them
Ouch....
So suggesting that people who can afford to pay for their tv licence or bus fares, where they have sufficient spare cash, should continue to do so even though they are 75 is considered so controversial that it would encourage people to vote for Brexit?? Wow!!!! Thanks for the insight.
As with all these things ..its about the level you put the cut off at. I personally think the level they are cutting off at is too low. It shouldnt be about whether you are receiving benefits or not.... it should be about how much money (not tied up in your main house) you have. But unfortunately that is too complicated to calculate and so the level either goes to ... everyone gets it free.... or.... only the poorest of the poor get it free. Should be somewhere in between."
There's a lot of maybe's in this world, maybe if folk didn't try to screw benefits, maybe if folk got paid a decent wage, maybe if people treated each other with respect, maybe if people were less greedy... and a hundred other things but the important thing is that there are people out there TRYING to do better and to be better, even on an everyday level... am gonna try and cheer ya all up with a very simple but profound quote from the Dalai Llama.
"Be kind wherever possible. It is always possible"
(Even to the crap drivers I mentioned on my other thread)
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Does anyone remember mythical licence detector vans and the adverts for them!
"There's a TV on in the front room... and they're watching Columbo"!!
Haha, aye, nae bother!
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Hahahah but it worked in a lot of cases perhaps |
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"Does anyone remember mythical licence detector vans and the adverts for them!
"There's a TV on in the front room... and they're watching Columbo"!!
Haha, aye, nae bother!
Hahahah but it worked in a lot of cases perhaps "
It worked into scaremongering millions of people into getting one. People didn't know any better and just assumed these Van's were like something from Doctor Who and could see through walls into people's livingrooms!
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"Does anyone remember mythical licence detector vans and the adverts for them!
"There's a TV on in the front room... and they're watching Columbo"!!
Haha, aye, nae bother!
Hahahah but it worked in a lot of cases perhaps
It worked into scaremongering millions of people into getting one. People didn't know any better and just assumed these Van's were like something from Doctor Who and could see through walls into people's livingrooms!
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Ahhh but it was a more innocent time (in some ways) |
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"Not trying to agree with the BBC but your sky virgin and them service don’t do it for free and there will be a small group happily paying for them all they are doing is copying them "
Not quite the same. BBC only provide their own programmes |
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"Going to throw out a controversial thought here given some of the earlier comments.....
There are a reasonable number of over 75s who can very clearly afford to pay for a tv licence. As well as bus fares, bridge tolls, prescriptions. You see the richest in our society are now hitting the 65+ mark. Huge houses, fancy cars, huge pension pots, financial advisors to get them the best tax breaks etc. etc. etc.
Now yes ...they have worked hard for it and I dont begrudge it one little bit (other than the fact they are the age group that vot3d for Brexit!!!) however.......
do they really need all the freebies? If they paid would it not make things easier for those who can't afford to (whatever their age).
For example.... I know of several couples over the age of 65 who use their free bus pass to get the bus down to their favourite michelin star restaurant at least once a week. "
You saved me typing mostly that! |
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"People didn't know any better and just assumed these Van's were like something from Doctor Who and could see through walls into people's livingrooms!
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Ah Doctor Who
The only thing worth paying your licence fee for....
Still don’t have one though |
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By *tew008Man
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"People didn't know any better and just assumed these Van's were like something from Doctor Who and could see through walls into people's livingrooms!
Ah Doctor Who
The only thing worth paying your licence fee for....
Still don’t have one though "
Doctor who ?
Mmmmm
Maybe the planet earth ones |
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"People didn't know any better and just assumed these Van's were like something from Doctor Who and could see through walls into people's livingrooms!
Ah Doctor Who
The only thing worth paying your licence fee for....
Still don’t have one though "
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"Does anyone remember mythical licence detector vans and the adverts for them!
"There's a TV on in the front room... and they're watching Columbo"!!
Haha, aye, nae bother!
Hahahah but it worked in a lot of cases perhaps
It worked into scaremongering millions of people into getting one. People didn't know any better and just assumed these Van's were like something from Doctor Who and could see through walls into people's livingrooms!
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The metal plate in my head stopped them from picking up our tele signals |
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"What a low blow... totally against this!!!
Mr has refused to pay ours for years.
(Off topic but someone blocked me in the Lounge once for admitting that! )
Ohhhh you rebel (or Mr is lol) that's a ridiculous thing to block for - nowt like folk mind you
I actually answered the door to the guy and said "Wee minute mate...cannae hear you....need to turn the tele down! ""
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"Does anyone remember mythical licence detector vans and the adverts for them!
"There's a TV on in the front room... and they're watching Columbo"!!
Haha, aye, nae bother!
Hahahah but it worked in a lot of cases perhaps
It worked into scaremongering millions of people into getting one. People didn't know any better and just assumed these Van's were like something from Doctor Who and could see through walls into people's livingrooms!
The metal plate in my head stopped them from picking up our tele signals "
I just used to wear a homemade tinfoil hat. Keeps the aliens at bay from infiltrating your thoughts too.  |
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"Dont pay for 1 or have a live feed for many reasons one being bbc propapaganda, how long has over 75 received free tv licence? What im not surprised is a lot...a loottt of voters are elderly how they gonna manipulate them now without the bbc in their ear? Nae chance they use much internet kinda fucked it for
themselves wi their political shams "
This is what we were thinking |
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There should be an option go to allow you to not access BBC and therefore not pay for it. That should be available to all.
I know many an OAP who struggle and others who don't. To me that's irrelevant, these people fought for us to have the lives we have know, they worked hard and paid taxes for years. I think it's wrong that the most valuable in our society are the ones continually targeted for cuts.
Sack the MPs who don't bother to turn up for debates or fall asleep in chambers. Curb their expense claims and freeze their salaries. That might help for a start |
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the following is from the guardian article on this.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jun/10/bbc-confirms-plans-to-make-over-75s-pay-licence-fee
"The BBC has said it will continue to provide TV licences to over-75s who can provide evidence that they claim pension credit, a means-tested benefit designed to help older people."
So the question is. should somebody earning £40k+ a year get a free tv licence? how about a millionaire?
if you think no, they you already agree that not all 75 year olds should get the Tv licence and what we are talking about where the appropriate level is. |
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"the following is from the guardian article on this.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jun/10/bbc-confirms-plans-to-make-over-75s-pay-licence-fee
"The BBC has said it will continue to provide TV licences to over-75s who can provide evidence that they claim pension credit, a means-tested benefit designed to help older people."
So the question is. should somebody earning £40k+ a year get a free tv licence? how about a millionaire?
if you think no, they you already agree that not all 75 year olds should get the Tv licence and what we are talking about where the appropriate level is."
One could argue that's fairer except it puts the old and frail to trouble they can do without. More form filling and perhaps online which many dislike or cannot do, not saying many are not capable of doing it but it's more likely to find it irritating, I know my 79 year old Mum will. |
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"the following is from the guardian article on this.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jun/10/bbc-confirms-plans-to-make-over-75s-pay-licence-fee
"The BBC has said it will continue to provide TV licences to over-75s who can provide evidence that they claim pension credit, a means-tested benefit designed to help older people."
So the question is. should somebody earning £40k+ a year get a free tv licence? how about a millionaire?
if you think no, they you already agree that not all 75 year olds should get the Tv licence and what we are talking about where the appropriate level is.
One could argue that's fairer except it puts the old and frail to trouble they can do without. More form filling and perhaps online which many dislike or cannot do, not saying many are not capable of doing it but it's more likely to find it irritating, I know my 79 year old Mum will. "
I understand this, but this is the future
To do a direct debit form for tv licence is minimum paperwork approx five minutes and once done it’s done for ever
Compare that to a benefit form it’s nothing at all |
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"the following is from the guardian article on this.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jun/10/bbc-confirms-plans-to-make-over-75s-pay-licence-fee
"The BBC has said it will continue to provide TV licences to over-75s who can provide evidence that they claim pension credit, a means-tested benefit designed to help older people."
So the question is. should somebody earning £40k+ a year get a free tv licence? how about a millionaire?
if you think no, they you already agree that not all 75 year olds should get the Tv licence and what we are talking about where the appropriate level is.
One could argue that's fairer except it puts the old and frail to trouble they can do without. More form filling and perhaps online which many dislike or cannot do, not saying many are not capable of doing it but it's more likely to find it irritating, I know my 79 year old Mum will.
I understand this, but this is the future
To do a direct debit form for tv licence is minimum paperwork approx five minutes and once done it’s done for ever
Compare that to a benefit form it’s nothing at all "
That's what I was referring to - the government are saying you have to prove you can't afford it - i.e. a benefits that's unlikely to take five minutes and stressful to young folk never mind the older generation |
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This is a bit of a revolutionist theory, but, I wonder what would happen if on top of the large amount of people who already don't pay a licence fee, several million other people just cancelled their direct debit.
Prosecution rates across the UK are virtually non-existent, fine rates are very, very low due, presumably due to the amount of time it takes and a lack of resource, so if a few million people just decided to stop paying, what could they do?
Panic, would be my bet, immediately shed on and off screen high earners, remove content and have a subscription-only service within 12 months.
As Sinderella said, the BBC should be a choice, the sooner there is a opt-out available, the fairer for everyone.
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"This is a bit of a revolutionist theory, but, I wonder what would happen if on top of the large amount of people who already don't pay a licence fee, several million other people just cancelled their direct debit.
Prosecution rates across the UK are virtually non-existent, fine rates are very, very low due, presumably due to the amount of time it takes and a lack of resource, so if a few million people just decided to stop paying, what could they do?
Panic, would be my bet, immediately shed on and off screen high earners, remove content and have a subscription-only service within 12 months.
As Sinderella said, the BBC should be a choice, the sooner there is a opt-out available, the fairer for everyone.
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Yep but the great British public don't often show a totally united front and I imagine they would make examples of a few which in turn would weaken any "don't pay" resolve. Another point is what if all the folk who just don't pay did... However I agree strongly on having BBC should be an option not something forced on you. |
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"This is a bit of a revolutionist theory, but, I wonder what would happen if on top of the large amount of people who already don't pay a licence fee, several million other people just cancelled their direct debit.
Prosecution rates across the UK are virtually non-existent, fine rates are very, very low due, presumably due to the amount of time it takes and a lack of resource, so if a few million people just decided to stop paying, what could they do?
Panic, would be my bet, immediately shed on and off screen high earners, remove content and have a subscription-only service within 12 months.
As Sinderella said, the BBC should be a choice, the sooner there is a opt-out available, the fairer for everyone.
Yep but the great British public don't often show a totally united front and I imagine they would make examples of a few which in turn would weaken any "don't pay" resolve. Another point is what if all the folk who just don't pay did... However I agree strongly on having BBC should be an option not something forced on you. "
it is a choice though you only need it if you recieve live tv i dont so stopped paying it i also refuse to speak to them when they chap the door no contract no conversation
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By *andACouple
over a year ago
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"There should be an option go to allow you to not access BBC and therefore not pay for it. That should be available to all.
I know many an OAP who struggle and others who don't. To me that's irrelevant, these people fought for us to have the lives we have know, they worked hard and paid taxes for years. I think it's wrong that the most valuable in our society are the ones continually targeted for cuts.
Sack the MPs who don't bother to turn up for debates or fall asleep in chambers. Curb their expense claims and freeze their salaries. That might help for a start"
Without getting into the ins and outs of the tv licence I've gotta point out that pensioners definitely aren't the ones who have been targeted for cuts, or moreso than other groups anyway. Pensioners are the only group to come through the years of austerity with a real terms increase in income while everyone else has seen a drop. |
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"Just heard today that politicians claim back their tv licence as well as expenses. Not sure how they get away with it 
Cause they're scheming cunts."
That’s the one truth |
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"Just heard today that politicians claim back their tv licence as well as expenses. Not sure how they get away with it "
Prime minister also gets the fuk sky package.. Whatdafuq do they need movies and sports paid for by the tax payer. |
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The way I look at it is that by the age of 75, you’ve worked since you were 15-16 (taking into account the school leaving age of the late 50’s for the pedants) so in that time you’ve paid Income Tax and your National Insurance contributions, paid in so it’s reasonable to assume you should be allowed to kick back and draw out even the most minuscule amount of benefits i.e. a TV licence gratis! |
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There seems to be a growing trend of blaming pensioners for doing well during austerity forgetting that this generation worked all there life,as a pensioner that retired at 66 paying into the system for nearly 50 years,and now we have one of the lowest pensions in europe,just another point of view. |
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"There seems to be a growing trend of blaming pensioners for doing well during austerity forgetting that this generation worked all there life,as a pensioner that retired at 66 paying into the system for nearly 50 years,and now we have one of the lowest pensions in europe,just another point of view."
A very valid one |
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"Just heard today that politicians claim back their tv licence as well as expenses. Not sure how they get away with it "
It’s a business expense, if it’s used for business then yes it should be claimed, you can’t honestly think running an office is not going to have expenses, they need to have the news channels on all the time tv is still one of the fastest ways to get emergency news etc |
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Interesting that the government moved the cost of this onto the BBC, they knew it wasn’t sustainable. But protected pissing off the blue rinse brigade (hair and politics colour) vote. by making sure it was the BBC that had to announce it. |
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"There is to a boycott of the BBC on Friday the 21st of june ...Dont watch any BBC on that day repost and share ."
Sounds a bit like cutting your nose off to spite your face. This whole thing came about because of all the tv licence who gets and the Daily Mail. They got what they wanted when the licence fee was frozen for five years. We all saved a few quid a year, but it massively effected the BBC. So they had this forced on them.
I don’t really see why people are objecting to over 75s who can afford it paying for it anyway.
You do know that those who can’t will still get it for free? |
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Age Concern should organise that no one pays..Can you imagine the backlash if some old lady or ex soldier is sent to jail and what judge in the land would be so wicked as to do such a thing,No one around my area pays for a tv licence and when the Goons[see utube] or salesman knock just shut the door in their face and they can do nothing |
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There was recently a bbc time capsule dug up from the seventies first out..Jiml fix it badge..next Rolfs stylaphone..next Gary glitter LP..next Board game "Its a Knockout..Oh fuck this said the man bury the bastard again but deeper this time. |
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"Age Concern should organise that no one pays..Can you imagine the backlash if some old lady or ex soldier is sent to jail and what judge in the land would be so wicked as to do such a thing,No one around my area pays for a tv licence and when the Goons[see utube] or salesman knock just shut the door in their face and they can do nothing"
So you think the plan should be for Age Concern to encourage people who can afford it, not to pay it, in the hope that they go to jail which would cause a backlash? |
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