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"Plain and simple it's out n out cheating that's becoming the norm in the game and yes I do believe it's trained into them to go down if someone breathes on them .it's what I hate about footie that's why I stick to golf nowadays "I agree with your all three answers Bunkie. The thing i dont get is why does it go pretty much un penalised, yes an occasional yellow card for it but if every incident was yellow carded we would be lucky if it ended as a five aside game. The other thing i dont get is have these players no shame. The slightest brush with an arm or tiniest coming together and one or both go down like they were shot. Video evidence shows its impossible for either to be injured yet they lie there getting treatment. Then you have the physios , wtf are they thinking, lets pour some water on it as its pointless doing anything else as theres feck all wrong with them. But hey if i get my wages for pouring some water im in on it too. Its like a bad joke with a worse punchline. | |||
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"Cheating! But part of the game now unfortunately. Even commentators now days say he should have went down if the guy actually did stay on his feet." Actually thats true, ive heard commentators saying that. Good point. What about an idea , if the ref is %100 sure there was nothing in it he lets the game go on and another player kicks the ball out of play to allow treatment, if the so called injured player is proven has faked it by video evidence the player who kicked the ball out is yellow carded for over ruling the ref. This would make a player more resposible for his actions as he now has the possibility of getting a fellow teammate a yellow card too because he stopped the flow of a game to allow treatment to a fake injured player. Just a thought. | |||
"Cheating! But part of the game now unfortunately. Even commentators now days say he should have went down if the guy actually did stay on his feet. Actually thats true, ive heard commentators saying that. Good point. What about an idea , if the ref is %100 sure there was nothing in it he lets the game go on and another player kicks the ball out of play to allow treatment, if the so called injured player is proven has faked it by video evidence the player who kicked the ball out is yellow carded for over ruling the ref. This would make a player more resposible for his actions as he now has the possibility of getting a fellow teammate a yellow card too because he stopped the flow of a game to allow treatment to a fake injured player. Just a thought." Loll what a laugh If a player cheats and dives and is caught by ref, then punish him. if a player cheats and dives and is missed by ref, but a report with Tv evidence is produced that he dived then punish him. If a player cheats and dives but he can actually hurt himself diving so he has to be stretcherd off do you still punish the player who kicked the ball out because all he might see is the player actually hurt himself. At the end of the day, start of the day or the middle of the day UEFA n FIFA are to blame. In the World Cup there was blatant diving, in the European cup there was blatant diving. So if caught on TV and ref missed it then ban the fucker from the tournament or at least 4 or 5 games. UEFA shouldn't ld have the balls to do the same to all big stars who do it, no matter who they are. That will eventually put it out the game. In coaching at pro youth level and youth level I've never seen any coach train their lads to cheat by diving. If they did then this saddens me, something that should be taken out of the sport. | |||
"Cheating! But part of the game now unfortunately. Even commentators now days say he should have went down if the guy actually did stay on his feet. Actually thats true, ive heard commentators saying that. Good point. What about an idea , if the ref is %100 sure there was nothing in it he lets the game go on and another player kicks the ball out of play to allow treatment, if the so called injured player is proven has faked it by video evidence the player who kicked the ball out is yellow carded for over ruling the ref. This would make a player more resposible for his actions as he now has the possibility of getting a fellow teammate a yellow card too because he stopped the flow of a game to allow treatment to a fake injured player. Just a thought." of course it's true...I said it
I think you just need to watch Italian or Spanish teams play to know they are taught to go down very easily at a young level.way too much money in football now days that win at al cost seems to be the norm now.im happy with camera evidence and a card or fine if found guilt ..unfortunately devil I don't think anything else will change it? | |||
"Cheating! But part of the game now unfortunately. Even commentators now days say he should have went down if the guy actually did stay on his feet. Actually thats true, ive heard commentators saying that. Good point. What about an idea , if the ref is %100 sure there was nothing in it he lets the game go on and another player kicks the ball out of play to allow treatment, if the so called injured player is proven has faked it by video evidence the player who kicked the ball out is yellow carded for over ruling the ref. This would make a player more resposible for his actions as he now has the possibility of getting a fellow teammate a yellow card too because he stopped the flow of a game to allow treatment to a fake injured player. Just a thought. Loll what a laugh If a player cheats and dives and is caught by ref, then punish him. if a player cheats and dives and is missed by ref, but a report with Tv evidence is produced that he dived then punish him. If a player cheats and dives but he can actually hurt himself diving so he has to be stretcherd off do you still punish the player who kicked the ball out because all he might see is the player actually hurt himself. At the end of the day, start of the day or the middle of the day UEFA n FIFA are to blame. In the World Cup there was blatant diving, in the European cup there was blatant diving. So if caught on TV and ref missed it then ban the fucker from the tournament or at least 4 or 5 games. UEFA shouldn't ld have the balls to do the same to all big stars who do it, no matter who they are. That will eventually put it out the game. In coaching at pro youth level and youth level I've never seen any coach train their lads to cheat by diving. If they did then this saddens me, something that should be taken out of the sport. "Yep agreed it lies with the powers that be to sort it. Now a genuine question to you peter. An honest answer from you hopefully. You coach football and you travel with a team as you said you were going to a cup game recently. Sooo The week before that cup game your star striker and your star defender both dive in a game and win . Do you sinbin them for your cup game for cheating or say same again next week lads its a cup game. Only asking you as your a coach and clearly by your post you think this kind of cheating should be punished. Which i totally agree with you too.  | |||
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"Who is actually going to admit to asking someone to cheat devil? "By diving you mean ? There not admitting to cheating they might admit to saying its ok to go down very easy or at the slightest wee touch. They see it as part of the game nowadays so not cheating. But we all know it is and as peter is a coach he also sees it as cheating which is good. | |||
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"Cheating! But part of the game now unfortunately. Even commentators now days say he should have went down if the guy actually did stay on his feet. Actually thats true, ive heard commentators saying that. Good point. What about an idea , if the ref is %100 sure there was nothing in it he lets the game go on and another player kicks the ball out of play to allow treatment, if the so called injured player is proven has faked it by video evidence the player who kicked the ball out is yellow carded for over ruling the ref. This would make a player more resposible for his actions as he now has the possibility of getting a fellow teammate a yellow card too because he stopped the flow of a game to allow treatment to a fake injured player. Just a thought. Loll what a laugh If a player cheats and dives and is caught by ref, then punish him. if a player cheats and dives and is missed by ref, but a report with Tv evidence is produced that he dived then punish him. If a player cheats and dives but he can actually hurt himself diving so he has to be stretcherd off do you still punish the player who kicked the ball out because all he might see is the player actually hurt himself. At the end of the day, start of the day or the middle of the day UEFA n FIFA are to blame. In the World Cup there was blatant diving, in the European cup there was blatant diving. So if caught on TV and ref missed it then ban the fucker from the tournament or at least 4 or 5 games. UEFA shouldn't ld have the balls to do the same to all big stars who do it, no matter who they are. That will eventually put it out the game. In coaching at pro youth level and youth level I've never seen any coach train their lads to cheat by diving. If they did then this saddens me, something that should be taken out of the sport. "Totally agree with all comments in particular FIFA , VR is to be the saviour, whereas it may sort out some cheating it will never fix it all or by refereeing incompetence which ruined a World Cup Final which could’ve been the best to watch in living memory | |||
"Cheating! But part of the game now unfortunately. Even commentators now days say he should have went down if the guy actually did stay on his feet. Actually thats true, ive heard commentators saying that. Good point. What about an idea , if the ref is %100 sure there was nothing in it he lets the game go on and another player kicks the ball out of play to allow treatment, if the so called injured player is proven has faked it by video evidence the player who kicked the ball out is yellow carded for over ruling the ref. This would make a player more resposible for his actions as he now has the possibility of getting a fellow teammate a yellow card too because he stopped the flow of a game to allow treatment to a fake injured player. Just a thought. Loll what a laugh If a player cheats and dives and is caught by ref, then punish him. if a player cheats and dives and is missed by ref, but a report with Tv evidence is produced that he dived then punish him. If a player cheats and dives but he can actually hurt himself diving so he has to be stretcherd off do you still punish the player who kicked the ball out because all he might see is the player actually hurt himself. At the end of the day, start of the day or the middle of the day UEFA n FIFA are to blame. In the World Cup there was blatant diving, in the European cup there was blatant diving. So if caught on TV and ref missed it then ban the fucker from the tournament or at least 4 or 5 games. UEFA shouldn't ld have the balls to do the same to all big stars who do it, no matter who they are. That will eventually put it out the game. In coaching at pro youth level and youth level I've never seen any coach train their lads to cheat by diving. If they did then this saddens me, something that should be taken out of the sport.
Yep agreed it lies with the powers that be to sort it.
Now a genuine question to you peter. An honest answer from you hopefully. You coach football and you travel with a team as you said you were going to a cup game recently. Sooo
The week before that cup game your star striker and your star defender both dive in a game and win . Do you sinbin them for your cup game for cheating or say same again next week lads its a cup game. Only asking you as your a coach and clearly by your post you think this kind of cheating should be punished. Which i totally agree with you too. "I am a UEFA license coach now and I'm not interested in winning games per say. I am a development youth coach, coaching youth players, (and the younger coaches) to a standard that they are good enough at a young age to understand and do what is required from our professional team. This will make them be able to go into their training set up they will know what to expect, what is required and that they are good enough physically and mentally enough to handle such demands. In answer to your question if any of our players, during a game, dive, hit out, back chat to a referee we take them off immediately, as soon as it happens, end of. They are here to learn and in order to learn they also need to make mistakes and learn from those but they are well versed in the standards that is expected so we don't have a problem with this, although, some young players have attitudes, which I done mind as long as they can be honed in to be beneficial to their development. | |||
"Cheating! But part of the game now unfortunately. Even commentators now days say he should have went down if the guy actually did stay on his feet. Actually thats true, ive heard commentators saying that. Good point. What about an idea , if the ref is %100 sure there was nothing in it he lets the game go on and another player kicks the ball out of play to allow treatment, if the so called injured player is proven has faked it by video evidence the player who kicked the ball out is yellow carded for over ruling the ref. This would make a player more resposible for his actions as he now has the possibility of getting a fellow teammate a yellow card too because he stopped the flow of a game to allow treatment to a fake injured player. Just a thought. Loll what a laugh If a player cheats and dives and is caught by ref, then punish him. if a player cheats and dives and is missed by ref, but a report with Tv evidence is produced that he dived then punish him. If a player cheats and dives but he can actually hurt himself diving so he has to be stretcherd off do you still punish the player who kicked the ball out because all he might see is the player actually hurt himself. At the end of the day, start of the day or the middle of the day UEFA n FIFA are to blame. In the World Cup there was blatant diving, in the European cup there was blatant diving. So if caught on TV and ref missed it then ban the fucker from the tournament or at least 4 or 5 games. UEFA shouldn't ld have the balls to do the same to all big stars who do it, no matter who they are. That will eventually put it out the game. In coaching at pro youth level and youth level I've never seen any coach train their lads to cheat by diving. If they did then this saddens me, something that should be taken out of the sport.
Yep agreed it lies with the powers that be to sort it.
Now a genuine question to you peter. An honest answer from you hopefully. You coach football and you travel with a team as you said you were going to a cup game recently. Sooo
The week before that cup game your star striker and your star defender both dive in a game and win . Do you sinbin them for your cup game for cheating or say same again next week lads its a cup game. Only asking you as your a coach and clearly by your post you think this kind of cheating should be punished. Which i totally agree with you too.
I am a UEFA license coach now and I'm not interested in winning games per say. I am a development youth coach, coaching youth players, (and the younger coaches) to a standard that they are good enough at a young age to understand and do what is required from our professional team. This will make them be able to go into their training set up they will know what to expect, what is required and that they are good enough physically and mentally enough to handle such demands.
In answer to your question if any of our players, during a game, dive, hit out, back chat to a referee we take them off immediately, as soon as it happens, end of.
They are here to learn and in order to learn they also need to make mistakes and learn from those but they are well versed in the standards that is expected so we don't have a problem with this, although, some young players have attitudes, which I done mind as long as they can be honed in to be beneficial to their development. "Sorry horsey all you have to do is look at the modern game ,it all about winning at any cost ,it doesnt matter what you instil on your players as soon as they reach a stage where it means the football is their living then anything you teach them will go out the window ,In professional footballers career, being 2nd best and fair does not make you a superstar and every young loon wants to be the next ronaldo, etc so teach away and coach away but it irrelevant in the modern game bud | |||
"Cheating! But part of the game now unfortunately. Even commentators now days say he should have went down if the guy actually did stay on his feet. Actually thats true, ive heard commentators saying that. Good point. What about an idea , if the ref is %100 sure there was nothing in it he lets the game go on and another player kicks the ball out of play to allow treatment, if the so called injured player is proven has faked it by video evidence the player who kicked the ball out is yellow carded for over ruling the ref. This would make a player more resposible for his actions as he now has the possibility of getting a fellow teammate a yellow card too because he stopped the flow of a game to allow treatment to a fake injured player. Just a thought. Loll what a laugh If a player cheats and dives and is caught by ref, then punish him. if a player cheats and dives and is missed by ref, but a report with Tv evidence is produced that he dived then punish him. If a player cheats and dives but he can actually hurt himself diving so he has to be stretcherd off do you still punish the player who kicked the ball out because all he might see is the player actually hurt himself. At the end of the day, start of the day or the middle of the day UEFA n FIFA are to blame. In the World Cup there was blatant diving, in the European cup there was blatant diving. So if caught on TV and ref missed it then ban the fucker from the tournament or at least 4 or 5 games. UEFA shouldn't ld have the balls to do the same to all big stars who do it, no matter who they are. That will eventually put it out the game. In coaching at pro youth level and youth level I've never seen any coach train their lads to cheat by diving. If they did then this saddens me, something that should be taken out of the sport.
Yep agreed it lies with the powers that be to sort it.
Now a genuine question to you peter. An honest answer from you hopefully. You coach football and you travel with a team as you said you were going to a cup game recently. Sooo
The week before that cup game your star striker and your star defender both dive in a game and win . Do you sinbin them for your cup game for cheating or say same again next week lads its a cup game. Only asking you as your a coach and clearly by your post you think this kind of cheating should be punished. Which i totally agree with you too.
I am a UEFA license coach now and I'm not interested in winning games per say. I am a development youth coach, coaching youth players, (and the younger coaches) to a standard that they are good enough at a young age to understand and do what is required from our professional team. This will make them be able to go into their training set up they will know what to expect, what is required and that they are good enough physically and mentally enough to handle such demands.
In answer to your question if any of our players, during a game, dive, hit out, back chat to a referee we take them off immediately, as soon as it happens, end of.
They are here to learn and in order to learn they also need to make mistakes and learn from those but they are well versed in the standards that is expected so we don't have a problem with this, although, some young players have attitudes, which I done mind as long as they can be honed in to be beneficial to their development. "I appreciate your point of views from the ethical side of things you can only teach them to the best standards but, you never really answered my question either. From a good manager point of view it would be a good idea to substitute a player if he had come to the refs attention either by cheating( diving) or bad mouthing a ref etc as next time it happened he could be off the park , thats not a punishment , thats a tactical move. My question was , would you drop him for the next couple of games as a punishment. Especially as there still learning the craft and that cheating is NOT part of the game. | |||
"Cheating! But part of the game now unfortunately. Even commentators now days say he should have went down if the guy actually did stay on his feet. Actually thats true, ive heard commentators saying that. Good point. What about an idea , if the ref is %100 sure there was nothing in it he lets the game go on and another player kicks the ball out of play to allow treatment, if the so called injured player is proven has faked it by video evidence the player who kicked the ball out is yellow carded for over ruling the ref. This would make a player more resposible for his actions as he now has the possibility of getting a fellow teammate a yellow card too because he stopped the flow of a game to allow treatment to a fake injured player. Just a thought. Loll what a laugh If a player cheats and dives and is caught by ref, then punish him. if a player cheats and dives and is missed by ref, but a report with Tv evidence is produced that he dived then punish him. If a player cheats and dives but he can actually hurt himself diving so he has to be stretcherd off do you still punish the player who kicked the ball out because all he might see is the player actually hurt himself. At the end of the day, start of the day or the middle of the day UEFA n FIFA are to blame. In the World Cup there was blatant diving, in the European cup there was blatant diving. So if caught on TV and ref missed it then ban the fucker from the tournament or at least 4 or 5 games. UEFA shouldn't ld have the balls to do the same to all big stars who do it, no matter who they are. That will eventually put it out the game. In coaching at pro youth level and youth level I've never seen any coach train their lads to cheat by diving. If they did then this saddens me, something that should be taken out of the sport.
Yep agreed it lies with the powers that be to sort it.
Now a genuine question to you peter. An honest answer from you hopefully. You coach football and you travel with a team as you said you were going to a cup game recently. Sooo
The week before that cup game your star striker and your star defender both dive in a game and win . Do you sinbin them for your cup game for cheating or say same again next week lads its a cup game. Only asking you as your a coach and clearly by your post you think this kind of cheating should be punished. Which i totally agree with you too.
I am a UEFA license coach now and I'm not interested in winning games per say. I am a development youth coach, coaching youth players, (and the younger coaches) to a standard that they are good enough at a young age to understand and do what is required from our professional team. This will make them be able to go into their training set up they will know what to expect, what is required and that they are good enough physically and mentally enough to handle such demands.
In answer to your question if any of our players, during a game, dive, hit out, back chat to a referee we take them off immediately, as soon as it happens, end of.
They are here to learn and in order to learn they also need to make mistakes and learn from those but they are well versed in the standards that is expected so we don't have a problem with this, although, some young players have attitudes, which I done mind as long as they can be honed in to be beneficial to their development.
Sorry horsey all you have to do is look at the modern game ,it all about winning at any cost ,it doesnt matter what you instil on your players as soon as they reach a stage where it means the football is their living then anything you teach them will go out the window ,In professional footballers career, being 2nd best and fair does not make you a superstar and every young loon wants to be the next ronaldo, etc so teach away and coach away but it irrelevant in the modern game bud "Agreed but I and we aint teaching them to cheat or dive, once they go to the professional team they are obviously on other coaches remit now and out of our hands, we can only teach them and develop them to hopefully a very high standard. As I said, UEFA and FIFA should have the balls to ban these players for cheating but they seem to miss out the bigger teams and players. The 2017–18 European Champions league the best defender names was 'Sergio Ramos'. In the Champions League, Ramos has amassed 37 yellow cards and 3 red cards (2 of which were straight red cards), making him the most-carded player in Champions League history. What a cheating, diving, dirty player he is and what do they do, they reward him. What does that say to the younger players, do as he does  .
If players like this were punished accordingly then there would be less players cheating like him | |||
"Cheating! But part of the game now unfortunately. Even commentators now days say he should have went down if the guy actually did stay on his feet. Actually thats true, ive heard commentators saying that. Good point. What about an idea , if the ref is %100 sure there was nothing in it he lets the game go on and another player kicks the ball out of play to allow treatment, if the so called injured player is proven has faked it by video evidence the player who kicked the ball out is yellow carded for over ruling the ref. This would make a player more resposible for his actions as he now has the possibility of getting a fellow teammate a yellow card too because he stopped the flow of a game to allow treatment to a fake injured player. Just a thought. Loll what a laugh If a player cheats and dives and is caught by ref, then punish him. if a player cheats and dives and is missed by ref, but a report with Tv evidence is produced that he dived then punish him. If a player cheats and dives but he can actually hurt himself diving so he has to be stretcherd off do you still punish the player who kicked the ball out because all he might see is the player actually hurt himself. At the end of the day, start of the day or the middle of the day UEFA n FIFA are to blame. In the World Cup there was blatant diving, in the European cup there was blatant diving. So if caught on TV and ref missed it then ban the fucker from the tournament or at least 4 or 5 games. UEFA shouldn't ld have the balls to do the same to all big stars who do it, no matter who they are. That will eventually put it out the game. In coaching at pro youth level and youth level I've never seen any coach train their lads to cheat by diving. If they did then this saddens me, something that should be taken out of the sport.
Yep agreed it lies with the powers that be to sort it.
Now a genuine question to you peter. An honest answer from you hopefully. You coach football and you travel with a team as you said you were going to a cup game recently. Sooo
The week before that cup game your star striker and your star defender both dive in a game and win . Do you sinbin them for your cup game for cheating or say same again next week lads its a cup game. Only asking you as your a coach and clearly by your post you think this kind of cheating should be punished. Which i totally agree with you too.
I am a UEFA license coach now and I'm not interested in winning games per say. I am a development youth coach, coaching youth players, (and the younger coaches) to a standard that they are good enough at a young age to understand and do what is required from our professional team. This will make them be able to go into their training set up they will know what to expect, what is required and that they are good enough physically and mentally enough to handle such demands.
In answer to your question if any of our players, during a game, dive, hit out, back chat to a referee we take them off immediately, as soon as it happens, end of.
They are here to learn and in order to learn they also need to make mistakes and learn from those but they are well versed in the standards that is expected so we don't have a problem with this, although, some young players have attitudes, which I done mind as long as they can be honed in to be beneficial to their development.
Sorry horsey all you have to do is look at the modern game ,it all about winning at any cost ,it doesnt matter what you instil on your players as soon as they reach a stage where it means the football is their living then anything you teach them will go out the window ,In professional footballers career, being 2nd best and fair does not make you a superstar and every young loon wants to be the next ronaldo, etc so teach away and coach away but it irrelevant in the modern game bud
Agreed but I and we aint teaching them to cheat or dive, once they go to the professional team they are obviously on other coaches remit now and out of our hands, we can only teach them and develop them to hopefully a very high standard.
As I said, UEFA and FIFA should have the balls to ban these players for cheating but they seem to miss out the bigger teams and players.
The 2017–18 European Champions league the best defender names was 'Sergio Ramos'. In the Champions League, Ramos has amassed 37 yellow cards and 3 red cards (2 of which were straight red cards), making him the most-carded player in Champions League history.
What a cheating, diving, dirty player he is and what do they do, they reward him. What does that say to the younger players, do as he does .
If players like this were punished accordingly then there would be less players cheating like him"Yep again i agree , your stats say it all about the game and the mindset of the people in power. As Monkey also said it dosnt matter ethically what you teach then, they know they wont get punnished . Can only get worse going by the fact Ramos picking up awards for his behaviour. | |||
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" Yep again i agree , your stats say it all about the game and the mindset of the people in power. As Monkey also said it dosnt matter ethically what you teach then, they know they wont get punnished . Can only get worse going by the fact Ramos picking up awards for his behaviour. "I am honest in my views and what I see and Scottish football is one of the cleanest in Europe with less cheating. Nothing out there to prove this though but when you look back in European history, Scottish teams have lost many times to opposition players cheating, perfect example 1984 Celtic vrs Rapid Vienna, player said he was hit by bottle and blood pouring from his head  . Celtic won game, 3.0 to go through, rapid protested and the game was replayed and Celtic lost on aggregate and Celtic put out. | |||
"I think the pro players are setting a bad example. " When you have a normal job and have to pay the Bills, mortgage ,and everything else in normal life ,if someone said to me 30 years ago all I had to do was play for the team ,not play fair and cheat my way to the top I would have took that deal as will 90 percent of today's modern sports participants....I in my old wish I had learnt darts it probably only a handful of sports that is still pure in the modern world | |||
" Yep again i agree , your stats say it all about the game and the mindset of the people in power. As Monkey also said it dosnt matter ethically what you teach then, they know they wont get punnished . Can only get worse going by the fact Ramos picking up awards for his behaviour.
I am honest in my views and what I see and Scottish football is one of the cleanest in Europe with less cheating. Nothing out there to prove this though but when you look back in European history, Scottish teams have lost many times to opposition players cheating, perfect example 1984 Celtic vrs Rapid Vienna, player said he was hit by bottle and blood pouring from his head . Celtic won game, 3.0 to go through, rapid protested and the game was replayed and Celtic lost on aggregate and Celtic put out."Peter have you been near a gas leak ,you only have to look at the spl to see that statement is like saying the gladiators of Rome didn't cheat and were fair bud | |||
" Yep again i agree , your stats say it all about the game and the mindset of the people in power. As Monkey also said it dosnt matter ethically what you teach then, they know they wont get punnished . Can only get worse going by the fact Ramos picking up awards for his behaviour.
I am honest in my views and what I see and Scottish football is one of the cleanest in Europe with less cheating. Nothing out there to prove this though but when you look back in European history, Scottish teams have lost many times to opposition players cheating, perfect example 1984 Celtic vrs Rapid Vienna, player said he was hit by bottle and blood pouring from his head . Celtic won game, 3.0 to go through, rapid protested and the game was replayed and Celtic lost on aggregate and Celtic put out.
Peter have you been near a gas leak ,you only have to look at the spl to see that statement is like saying the gladiators of Rome didn't cheat and were fair bud "I was comparing the Scottish game to other European leagues and by far, way cleaner. Have you watched the Spanish, Italian, German or French league games recently.
I never said Scottish game didn't have cheaters and divers, far from it but they are less in the Scottish game that most leagues in europe but no matter they should be ed out by the SFA and SPFL | |||
Great stadiums. | |||
"Love German football. Dortmund a few times. Proper fans club. Bratwurst and pint equivalent of a fiver. £11 entry
Great stadiums. "Voted the best in Europe for experience, atmosphere, before, during and after games, ease of access etc.. well done them | |||
"Love German football. Dortmund a few times. Proper fans club. Bratwurst and pint equivalent of a fiver. £11 entry
Great stadiums.
Voted the best in Europe for experience, atmosphere, before, during and after games, ease of access etc..
well done them "Already got schedule out and looking at the 2 games I go there every year.
Was at Almondvale last Saturday. Ticket £24
Pie £2.50 bovril £2 And not even a top category match.
Footballs fucked in this country with the SFA dinasours | |||
"Love German football. Dortmund a few times. Proper fans club. Bratwurst and pint equivalent of a fiver. £11 entry
Great stadiums.
Voted the best in Europe for experience, atmosphere, before, during and after games, ease of access etc..
well done them
Already got schedule out and looking at the 2 games I go there every year.
Was at Almondvale last Saturday. Ticket £24
Pie £2.50 bovril £2 And not even a top category match.
Footballs fucked in this country with the SFA dinasours "Just wait for brexit lol How the feck do you get from football to brexit haha.  | |||
"Love German football. Dortmund a few times. Proper fans club. Bratwurst and pint equivalent of a fiver. £11 entry
Great stadiums.
Voted the best in Europe for experience, atmosphere, before, during and after games, ease of access etc..
well done them
Already got schedule out and looking at the 2 games I go there every year.
Was at Almondvale last Saturday. Ticket £24
Pie £2.50 bovril £2 And not even a top category match.
Footballs fucked in this country with the SFA dinasours
Just wait for brexit lol
How the feck do you get from football to brexit haha. "Man Dinnae ! I’m all brexited oot on my Twitter not to mention the 2044 blocked on my gammon list already | |||
"I think the pro players are setting a bad example. When you have a normal job and have to pay the Bills, mortgage ,and everything else in normal life ,if someone said to me 30 years ago all I had to do was play for the team ,not play fair and cheat my way to the top I would have took that deal as will 90 percent of today's modern sports participants....I in my old wish I had learnt darts it probably only a handful of sports that is still pure in the modern world " I’m not a huge football fan but I’ve listened to the commentary and football is getting worse. Players being targeted and elbowed and kicked on purpose, players falling down trying to claim a penalty or a free kick. There’s not many footballers just now that are setting an example to the youngsters today. Players in Amateur football get tougher bans than pro players for their behaviour. | |||
