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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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OMG
I'm not but bloody hell my hubby and kids are!!
Most are 9/11 was the American government and tupac is still alive.
The bloody car journeys we have are murder!! |
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By *hav02Man
over a year ago
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"OMG
I'm not but bloody hell my hubby and kids are!!
Most are 9/11 was the American government and tupac is still alive.
The bloody car journeys we have are murder!!"
Oh but it was the Americans... Notice, the middle East is still a mess!
Tupac, MJ and Elvis are still alive  |
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By *e Devil OP Man
over a year ago
Blantyre |
"OMG
I'm not but bloody hell my hubby and kids are!!
Most are 9/11 was the American government and tupac is still alive.
The bloody car journeys we have are murder!!"
Haha they can get crazy. So does hubby say government was involved in 9/11 or is it kids that think so. And are you a neutral or judge to best debate. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"OMG
I'm not but bloody hell my hubby and kids are!!
Most are 9/11 was the American government and tupac is still alive.
The bloody car journeys we have are murder!!
Haha they can get crazy. So does hubby say government was involved in 9/11 or is it kids that think so. And are you a neutral or judge to best debate."
o tend to believe what I'm told lol But yes hubby n kids are firm believers in it was the Americans! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Are you a conspiracy theorist and if so whats your biggest conspiracy theory and why."
Tesco clubcard and or any other reward cards
Information passed onto the government and nhs in order to gather information about healthy eating alcohol consumption and smoking habits
Reduce the nhs bill for transplants and operations for those individuals who have abused their bodies with over consumption and poor health choices |
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By *e Devil OP Man
over a year ago
Blantyre |
"Are you a conspiracy theorist and if so whats your biggest conspiracy theory and why.
Tesco clubcard and or any other reward cards
Information passed onto the government and nhs in order to gather information about healthy eating alcohol consumption and smoking habits
Reduce the nhs bill for transplants and operations for those individuals who have abused their bodies with over consumption and poor health choices "
So who is privvy to this information within a hospital and makes the decision not to give a person an operation due to his or her lifestyle. Violet. ? |
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By *e Devil OP Man
over a year ago
Blantyre |
"I don't believe the Americans landed on the moon."
I dont believe most conspiracies but i do agree here. From what NASA say is involved it would be 10 years in the planning to go again yet apparantly they managed it in 6 months the last time. Yeah right ok.  |
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By *andsCouple
over a year ago
Edin |
"OMG
I'm not but bloody hell my hubby and kids are!!
Most are 9/11 was the American government and tupac is still alive.
The bloody car journeys we have are murder!!"
Omg same! We had one car journey in the summer that lasted 3.5 hours basically debating this the whole bloody time!! |
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I don't believe we are being told full truth at times, I wish it was so straight forward in life but people are blindsided by shiny cars and material objects
I often watch certain TV programs and wish it was real life... Fringe and Counterpart for example 
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"I don't believe we are being told full truth at times, I wish it was so straight forward in life but people are blindsided by shiny cars and material objects
I often watch certain TV programs and wish it was real life... Fringe and Counterpart for example
John "
fringe was a great series! |
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By *e Devil OP Man
over a year ago
Blantyre |
"OMG
I'm not but bloody hell my hubby and kids are!!
Most are 9/11 was the American government and tupac is still alive.
The bloody car journeys we have are murder!!
Omg same! We had one car journey in the summer that lasted 3.5 hours basically debating this the whole bloody time!! "
For every theory on 9/11 science can debunk it.
People will always believe what they want to believe though , which is why they are such great topics . Researching your viewpoint can be good too. The more you dig the stronger you convince yourself your opinion is the right one lol. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Are you a conspiracy theorist and if so whats your biggest conspiracy theory and why.
Tesco clubcard and or any other reward cards
Information passed onto the government and nhs in order to gather information about healthy eating alcohol consumption and smoking habits
Reduce the nhs bill for transplants and operations for those individuals who have abused their bodies with over consumption and poor health choices "
Whilst I accept your point that's a slippery slope....There needs to be more personal accountability for health, definitely, but I think the government can be trusted with fuck all. |
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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago
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"I don't believe the Americans landed on the moon.
I dont believe most conspiracies but i do agree here. From what NASA say is involved it would be 10 years in the planning to go again yet apparantly they managed it in 6 months the last time. Yeah right ok. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't believe the Americans landed on the moon.
I dont believe most conspiracies but i do agree here. From what NASA say is involved it would be 10 years in the planning to go again yet apparantly they managed it in 6 months the last time. Yeah right ok.
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Suppose you know a shortcut and could get there in yer taxi in a half hour? |
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"I don't believe the Americans landed on the moon.
I dont believe most conspiracies but i do agree here. From what NASA say is involved it would be 10 years in the planning to go again yet apparantly they managed it in 6 months the last time. Yeah right ok. "
Isn’t a big part of that down to lower tech back then compared to now? And probably less in the way of safety regulations, or whatever terminology might apply to something like NASA.
Where are you even getting these timescales of six months and ten years from?
20 seconds on Google says the first Apollo test flight took place in August 1966, nearly three years before they landed on the moon.
Presumably a modern craft to get to the moon now would be, by orders of magnitude, more expensive and technologically advanced and so presumably take longer to plan and develop. |
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"I don't believe we are being told full truth at times, I wish it was so straight forward in life but people are blindsided by shiny cars and material objects
I often watch certain TV programs and wish it was real life... Fringe and Counterpart for example
John fringe was a great series! "
Fringe was amazing  
Love a conspiracy theory, 9/11 defo the Americans, and don’t believe for a sec man has been to moon either |
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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago
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No real lover of conspiracy theories But this one always make me giggle...
The US built HAARP - High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) - in Alaska to either "Weaponise Weather" or "carry out wide spread mind control".
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By *e Devil OP Man
over a year ago
Blantyre |
"I don't believe the Americans landed on the moon.
I dont believe most conspiracies but i do agree here. From what NASA say is involved it would be 10 years in the planning to go again yet apparantly they managed it in 6 months the last time. Yeah right ok.
Isn’t a big part of that down to lower tech back then compared to now? And probably less in the way of safety regulations, or whatever terminology might apply to something like NASA.
Where are you even getting these timescales of six months and ten years from?
20 seconds on Google says the first Apollo test flight took place in August 1966, nearly three years before they landed on the moon.
Presumably a modern craft to get to the moon now would be, by orders of magnitude, more expensive and technologically advanced and so presumably take longer to plan and develop."
More expensive yes, why more technically advanced, apparantly they have already done it. Just copy that exact technology with more reliable parts. The car has never really changed has it. Better safety features but its still just a car. And your correct last i read it was 10 years , nasa have now said 6 years as long as they get international help. Lol
Where is the problem , they done it with 60s technology ???? |
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"I don't believe the Americans landed on the moon.
I dont believe most conspiracies but i do agree here. From what NASA say is involved it would be 10 years in the planning to go again yet apparantly they managed it in 6 months the last time. Yeah right ok.
Isn’t a big part of that down to lower tech back then compared to now? And probably less in the way of safety regulations, or whatever terminology might apply to something like NASA.
Where are you even getting these timescales of six months and ten years from?
20 seconds on Google says the first Apollo test flight took place in August 1966, nearly three years before they landed on the moon.
Presumably a modern craft to get to the moon now would be, by orders of magnitude, more expensive and technologically advanced and so presumably take longer to plan and develop.
More expensive yes, why more technically advanced, apparantly they have already done it. Just copy that exact technology with more reliable parts. The car has never really changed has it. Better safety features but its still just a car. And your correct last i read it was 10 years , nasa have now said 6 years as long as they get international help. Lol
Where is the problem , they done it with 60s technology ????"
You’re either being unbelievably naive or are just a WUM.
No, a modern car is not just like the original T Ford “with better safety features”, and suggesting that NASA should jystctecreate the original Apollo crafts from the 60s to go to the moon 60 years later is patently ridiculous.
You didn’t say where you got the six months from?
Do you also believe the Space Shuttle was a hoax? It didn’t even go to the moon, but took a lot longer than six months to design, test and get into orbit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Are you a conspiracy theorist and if so whats your biggest conspiracy theory and why.
Tesco clubcard and or any other reward cards
Information passed onto the government and nhs in order to gather information about healthy eating alcohol consumption and smoking habits
Reduce the nhs bill for transplants and operations for those individuals who have abused their bodies with over consumption and poor health choices
So who is privvy to this information within a hospital and makes the decision not to give a person an operation due to his or her lifestyle. Violet. ?"
It’s merely a theoretical idea although I do know the government have got access |
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By *e Devil OP Man
over a year ago
Blantyre |
"Are you a conspiracy theorist and if so whats your biggest conspiracy theory and why.
Tesco clubcard and or any other reward cards
Information passed onto the government and nhs in order to gather information about healthy eating alcohol consumption and smoking habits
Reduce the nhs bill for transplants and operations for those individuals who have abused their bodies with over consumption and poor health choices
So who is privvy to this information within a hospital and makes the decision not to give a person an operation due to his or her lifestyle. Violet. ?
It’s merely a theoretical idea although I do know the government have got access "
The idea would never get past a week v. Whistleblowers would sell that kind of info in a heartbeat. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Are you a conspiracy theorist and if so whats your biggest conspiracy theory and why.
Tesco clubcard and or any other reward cards
Information passed onto the government and nhs in order to gather information about healthy eating alcohol consumption and smoking habits
Reduce the nhs bill for transplants and operations for those individuals who have abused their bodies with over consumption and poor health choices
So who is privvy to this information within a hospital and makes the decision not to give a person an operation due to his or her lifestyle. Violet. ?
It’s merely a theoretical idea although I do know the government have got access "
Access to everything we buy in Tesco?
What nonsense |
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By *e Devil OP Man
over a year ago
Blantyre |
"I don't believe the Americans landed on the moon.
I dont believe most conspiracies but i do agree here. From what NASA say is involved it would be 10 years in the planning to go again yet apparantly they managed it in 6 months the last time. Yeah right ok.
Isn’t a big part of that down to lower tech back then compared to now? And probably less in the way of safety regulations, or whatever terminology might apply to something like NASA.
Where are you even getting these timescales of six months and ten years from?
20 seconds on Google says the first Apollo test flight took place in August 1966, nearly three years before they landed on the moon.
Presumably a modern craft to get to the moon now would be, by orders of magnitude, more expensive and technologically advanced and so presumably take longer to plan and develop.
More expensive yes, why more technically advanced, apparantly they have already done it. Just copy that exact technology with more reliable parts. The car has never really changed has it. Better safety features but its still just a car. And your correct last i read it was 10 years , nasa have now said 6 years as long as they get international help. Lol
Where is the problem , they done it with 60s technology ????
You’re either being unbelievably naive or are just a WUM.
No, a modern car is not just like the original T Ford “with better safety features”, and suggesting that NASA should jystctecreate the original Apollo crafts from the 60s to go to the moon 60 years later is patently ridiculous.
You didn’t say where you got the six months from?
Do you also believe the Space Shuttle was a hoax? It didn’t even go to the moon, but took a lot longer than six months to design, test and get into orbit."
Your space shuttle question is just there to give you a bit more credibility same as your car point. A model t ford had an engine , 4 wheels , a steering wheel, brakes , windows . Is that any different from todays cars i wonder. And again i never said use an Appollo craft , my obvious point is they had the technology in the 60s all the principles of it are the same just like a cars principles are the same. But with better technology. The Americans struggled to get the technology to get a man on the moon then suddenly the russians put a man in space and the yanks said they will not beat us to the moon. Suddenly they had the technology. Mmm |
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"I don't believe the Americans landed on the moon.
I dont believe most conspiracies but i do agree here. From what NASA say is involved it would be 10 years in the planning to go again yet apparantly they managed it in 6 months the last time. Yeah right ok.
Isn’t a big part of that down to lower tech back then compared to now? And probably less in the way of safety regulations, or whatever terminology might apply to something like NASA.
Where are you even getting these timescales of six months and ten years from?
20 seconds on Google says the first Apollo test flight took place in August 1966, nearly three years before they landed on the moon.
Presumably a modern craft to get to the moon now would be, by orders of magnitude, more expensive and technologically advanced and so presumably take longer to plan and develop.
More expensive yes, why more technically advanced, apparantly they have already done it. Just copy that exact technology with more reliable parts. The car has never really changed has it. Better safety features but its still just a car. And your correct last i read it was 10 years , nasa have now said 6 years as long as they get international help. Lol
Where is the problem , they done it with 60s technology ????
You’re either being unbelievably naive or are just a WUM.
No, a modern car is not just like the original T Ford “with better safety features”, and suggesting that NASA should jystctecreate the original Apollo crafts from the 60s to go to the moon 60 years later is patently ridiculous.
You didn’t say where you got the six months from?
Do you also believe the Space Shuttle was a hoax? It didn’t even go to the moon, but took a lot longer than six months to design, test and get into orbit.
Your space shuttle question is just there to give you a bit more credibility same as your car point."
Well, yes, that’s why I mentioned it. I’m not sure you’re winning any argument by pointing out the obvious, while completely sidestepping the question!
"A model t ford had an engine , 4 wheels , a steering wheel, brakes , windows . Is that any different from todays cars i wonder."
Well, I’d say the engine, which is arguably the most important part of what makes a car work compared to windows and steering wheels, has changed enormously in 100 years.
"And again i never said use an Appollo craft , my obvious point is they had the technology in the 60s all the principles of it are the same just like a cars principles are the same. But with better technology. The Americans struggled to get the technology to get a man on the moon then suddenly the russians put a man in space and the yanks said they will not beat us to the moon. Suddenly they had the technology. Mmm"
You as good as said that. They didn’t ‘suddenly’ do it. The Apollo program had been running for years. |
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By *e Devil OP Man
over a year ago
Blantyre |
"I don't believe the Americans landed on the moon.
I dont believe most conspiracies but i do agree here. From what NASA say is involved it would be 10 years in the planning to go again yet apparantly they managed it in 6 months the last time. Yeah right ok.
Isn’t a big part of that down to lower tech back then compared to now? And probably less in the way of safety regulations, or whatever terminology might apply to something like NASA.
Where are you even getting these timescales of six months and ten years from?
20 seconds on Google says the first Apollo test flight took place in August 1966, nearly three years before they landed on the moon.
Presumably a modern craft to get to the moon now would be, by orders of magnitude, more expensive and technologically advanced and so presumably take longer to plan and develop.
More expensive yes, why more technically advanced, apparantly they have already done it. Just copy that exact technology with more reliable parts. The car has never really changed has it. Better safety features but its still just a car. And your correct last i read it was 10 years , nasa have now said 6 years as long as they get international help. Lol
Where is the problem , they done it with 60s technology ????
You’re either being unbelievably naive or are just a WUM.
No, a modern car is not just like the original T Ford “with better safety features”, and suggesting that NASA should jystctecreate the original Apollo crafts from the 60s to go to the moon 60 years later is patently ridiculous.
You didn’t say where you got the six months from?
Do you also believe the Space Shuttle was a hoax? It didn’t even go to the moon, but took a lot longer than six months to design, test and get into orbit.
Your space shuttle question is just there to give you a bit more credibility same as your car point. A model t ford had an engine , 4 wheels , a steering wheel, brakes , windows . Is that any different from todays cars i wonder. And again i never said use an Appollo craft , my obvious point is they had the technology in the 60s all the principles of it are the same just like a cars principles are the same. But with better technology. The Americans struggled to get the technology to get a man on the moon then suddenly the russians put a man in space and the yanks said they will not beat us to the moon. Suddenly they had the technology. Mmm"
The hubble telescope , the most powerfull telescope ever, can see galaxies far far away but cant pick up left debrit on the moon so nasa say. Have you seen the images of the lander on the moon ? No thrust crater as it slowed to land. Or did it just have great shock absorbers and fall onto the moon. |
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I’m not going to waste any time arguing over the easily debunked moon shite above, especially the Hubble nonsense.
But hell, if people really want to think that it was all a hoax, consisting of about 100 rocket launches/attempted launches starting in 1958, where the tens of thousands who worked on the Apollo program have kept quiet all this time, then knock yourself out.
You might also want to add a Sydney University copyright image disclaimer to the end of your profile too. |
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By *hav02Man
over a year ago
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"I’m not going to waste any time arguing over the easily debunked moon shite above, especially the Hubble nonsense.
But hell, if people really want to think that it was all a hoax, consisting of about 100 rocket launches/attempted launches starting in 1958, where the tens of thousands who worked on the Apollo program have kept quiet all this time, then knock yourself out.
You might also want to add a Sydney University copyright image disclaimer to the end of your profile too. "
Sure sure, and next you'll be telling us that earth is not flat and is more an oblate spheroid |
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By *e Devil OP Man
over a year ago
Blantyre |
"I’m not going to waste any time arguing over the easily debunked moon shite above, especially the Hubble nonsense.
But hell, if people really want to think that it was all a hoax, consisting of about 100 rocket launches/attempted launches starting in 1958, where the tens of thousands who worked on the Apollo program have kept quiet all this time, then knock yourself out.
You might also want to add a Sydney University copyright image disclaimer to the end of your profile too. "
Yet you never debunked the lack of a thrust crater below the craft. Watch the video of the explosive power to get it back into orbit FROM the moon but it hardly disturbed a bit of moon dust landing. I think its you thats on the moon dust lol. |
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By *e Devil OP Man
over a year ago
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"I’m not going to waste any time arguing over the easily debunked moon shite above, especially the Hubble nonsense.
But hell, if people really want to think that it was all a hoax, consisting of about 100 rocket launches/attempted launches starting in 1958, where the tens of thousands who worked on the Apollo program have kept quiet all this time, then knock yourself out.
You might also want to add a Sydney University copyright image disclaimer to the end of your profile too.
Yet you never debunked the lack of a thrust crater below the craft. Watch the video of the explosive power to get it back into orbit FROM the moon but it hardly disturbed a bit of moon dust landing. I think its you thats on the moon dust lol."
Im not saying ALL these missions never took place im just saying they never set foot on the moon. Only a handful of people are required to fake that part. |
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The timings mentioned about space exploration come from nasa itself their other stupid comment was "the tecnology for breaking through the radiation barrier to get to the moon is lost"
Too many inconsistencys also buzz aldrins d*unken ramblings |
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"The timings mentioned about space exploration come from nasa itself their other stupid comment was "the tecnology for breaking through the radiation barrier to get to the moon is lost"
Too many inconsistencys also buzz aldrins d*unken ramblings "
Oak Island is more straight forward than the moon "landing"
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"The Russians couldn't find a way to survive the radiation from space..but the Americans with an identicle suit plus a gold plated visor had no problem...something fishy"
Not really. It was only enough radiation to do you harm if you were exposed to it over a period of days. But they weren’t.
Exact same way people can be exposed to radiation when they have x-rays. The dose is too small to be dangerous. |
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"I’m not going to waste any time arguing over the easily debunked moon shite above, especially the Hubble nonsense.
But hell, if people really want to think that it was all a hoax, consisting of about 100 rocket launches/attempted launches starting in 1958, where the tens of thousands who worked on the Apollo program have kept quiet all this time, then knock yourself out.
You might also want to add a Sydney University copyright image disclaimer to the end of your profile too.
Yet you never debunked the lack of a thrust crater below the craft. Watch the video of the explosive power to get it back into orbit FROM the moon but it hardly disturbed a bit of moon dust landing. I think its you thats on the moon dust lol."
to be fair even though I dont believe the manned moon landing the chinese unmanned probe that thrust landed proved there wouldnt be a crater with the probes onboard cameras......guess who watches loads of programmes on this subject |
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By *e Devil OP Man
over a year ago
Blantyre |
"I’m not going to waste any time arguing over the easily debunked moon shite above, especially the Hubble nonsense.
But hell, if people really want to think that it was all a hoax, consisting of about 100 rocket launches/attempted launches starting in 1958, where the tens of thousands who worked on the Apollo program have kept quiet all this time, then knock yourself out.
You might also want to add a Sydney University copyright image disclaimer to the end of your profile too.
Yet you never debunked the lack of a thrust crater below the craft. Watch the video of the explosive power to get it back into orbit FROM the moon but it hardly disturbed a bit of moon dust landing. I think its you thats on the moon dust lol.to be fair even though I dont believe the manned moon landing the chinese unmanned probe that thrust landed proved there wouldnt be a crater with the probes onboard cameras......guess who watches loads of programmes on this subject"
Not even enough to cause dust to be blown up while landing then resettle on the landers feet , which were clear of any moon dust in the pictures . Maybe they done a wee dust before setting up the cameras. First mrs mop on the moon so to speak. I get there can be lots of conspiracy theories most are a lot of shit but NASAs own comments say its not a simple mission, even with todays far superior technology yet it was done back in the 60s during a space race. Race being a key word, like the Americans or anyone would never cheat to win a race. Russians doping springs to mind, or is that just a conspiracy theory too as a country like Russia would never have state sponsored doping eh. ? |
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What about the Princess Diana theory that she was bumped off to save anything embaressing for the royal family?
not sure but still a big conspiracy theory? |
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"What about the Princess Diana theory that she was bumped off to save anything embaressing for the royal family?
not sure but still a big conspiracy theory?"
Yes so she couldn't blab that harry wasnt Charles son |
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"What about the Princess Diana theory that she was bumped off to save anything embaressing for the royal family?
not sure but still a big conspiracy theory?
Yes so she couldn't blab that harry wasnt Charles son"
Aye, they did a great job of keeping that rumour hust hush... |
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There’s plenty ‘debunking’ of why the moon hoax is utter nonsense. The tedious repetition of them here by Fab scientific and physics experts doesn’t make them any more true.
Even Van Allen himself debunked the radiation nonsense. Plus you might want to read up on moon dust and how it is electrified by solar winds....and what effect that has and problems it causes too.
NASA says they’ve ‘lost’ radiation tech? God. All. Mighty. Try ‘cost effective’ instead. All the technology knowledge gained has been used for future space travel.
Unfortunately people love to get excited that they ‘know’ something which other people don’t, whereas the truth is always far more mundane. Is it easier to accept the ‘simple’ Youtube conspiracy theories rather than the much more complex (and interesting) science?
I don’t rant much. Pretty laid back but this sort of pish gets right in my diddies! |
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Everything the Russians sent up came back dead,Not only that but a few years ago we were told that if the ozone layer failed humans had no protection from space radiation,couldn't we just wear spacesuits? |
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"Also if debating gets on your 'diddies',perhaps it's not for you."
Only when the debate is utter unscientific nonsense like the three posts you put up. I’m all for debate but not when it’s along the lines of the guy who discovered the Van Allen belts being told he was talking shite!
When did you serve on the Soviet space programme? Still, you have those photos that prove it all a hoax eh? Dearie me.
Hapoy to debate. Give me your best moon hoax theories and let’s see how well they stand up. GO!
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Before we ‘debate’ however, I have a very strict test I need you to pass first:
1. Is climate science all just made up and it’s ‘part of a natural cycle’ on which man has no impact?
2. On a clear sunny day, when you see planes flying overhead, contrails or chemtrails?
3. Vaccination and MMR. Good or bad?
4. 9/11. Who was responsible?
5. Paul McCartney. Dead or alive?
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"The man who discovered the van ellen belts-a theory by a man on earth.
The pictures were released by NASA.
I shouldn't have to repeat myself."
‘Pictures’ of the radiation belts eh? Interesting....
Please, give me the fundamental reasons you ‘disbelieve’ and let’s have a go at ‘facts’ for you. |
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Blimey. That’s it?
Have a look at ‘exposure’ for your wee crosses evidence and, well, there’s plenty scientific journals for you to read for many different countries on the Van Allen belts, plus the probes that went up there in 2012. Oh wait, they were sent by NASA! Damn. |
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"I have pictures taken on the moon where the crosses superimposed on the film disappear behind rocks etc...as for van allan-when did he go up to space.
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Wow! You could make a fortune exposing this whole thing which has been covered up for decades!
I have pictures of UFOs and seen magicians make the pyramids disappear.
And I’ve seen actual video evidence that the earth is flat. |
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"I can tell from your mentioning of many conspiracy theories that this is your hot subject over a few pints down the Winchester with the lads.
It was fun but it's gotten tired now."
Nope, but I don’t just take my knowledge from a 15 min YouTube video. I’m a scientific engineer so have an interest in stuff like this, and how disinformation spreads.
I see debate isn’t actually for you after all. I just wondered if you were susceptible to those other conspiracy theories as often it indicates whether the debate is worth having or you’re already an ‘expert’.
Have a good Hogmanay. |
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over a year ago
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"Also if debating gets on your 'diddies',perhaps it's not for you.
Only when the debate is utter unscientific nonsense like the three posts you put up. I’m all for debate but not when it’s along the lines of the guy who discovered the Van Allen belts being told he was talking shite!
When did you serve on the Soviet space programme? Still, you have those photos that prove it all a hoax eh? Dearie me.
Hapoy to debate. Give me your best moon hoax theories and let’s see how well they stand up. GO!
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Your missing a massive point , you say it happened, prove it. !! |
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"I have pictures taken on the moon where the crosses superimposed on the film disappear behind rocks etc...as for van allan-when did he go up to space.
Wow! You could make a fortune exposing this whole thing which has been covered up for decades!
I have pictures of UFOs and seen magicians make the pyramids disappear.
And I’ve seen actual video evidence that the earth is flat. "
And there I thought Billy smarts had shut up shop.
It's good to know there are still a few clowns out there to make us laugh-bravo!. |
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"All you have done in the debate is perpetuate American excuses...I see no facts."
Ah, the great conspiracy theorist response to facts. Denounce them as cover up.
Each and every piece of “evidence” for the moon landing conspiracy are thoroughly debunked. |
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over a year ago
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"All you have done in the debate is perpetuate American excuses...I see no facts.
Ah, the great conspiracy theorist response to facts. Denounce them as cover up.
Each and every piece of “evidence” for the moon landing conspiracy are thoroughly debunked."
Whats your proof they happened. |
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"I can tell from your mentioning of many conspiracy theories that this is your hot subject over a few pints down the Winchester with the lads.
It was fun but it's gotten tired now.
Nope, but I don’t just take my knowledge from a 15 min YouTube video. I’m a scientific engineer so have an interest in stuff like this, and how disinformation spreads.
I see debate isn’t actually for you after all. I just wondered if you were susceptible to those other conspiracy theories as often it indicates whether the debate is worth having or you’re already an ‘expert’.
Have a good Hogmanay. "
Prove it didn’t. |
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"All the missions i have no doubt really happened, launched from earth and landed back on earth etc etc but the landing on the moon part is easily faked like a good Spielberg movie. "
There’s a good article which I can’t link to due to fab rules that debunks that this would have been possible, let alone ‘easy’ in 1969! |
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over a year ago
Blantyre |
"I can tell from your mentioning of many conspiracy theories that this is your hot subject over a few pints down the Winchester with the lads.
It was fun but it's gotten tired now.
Nope, but I don’t just take my knowledge from a 15 min YouTube video. I’m a scientific engineer so have an interest in stuff like this, and how disinformation spreads.
I see debate isn’t actually for you after all. I just wondered if you were susceptible to those other conspiracy theories as often it indicates whether the debate is worth having or you’re already an ‘expert’.
Have a good Hogmanay.
Prove it didn’t."
You said we were debunking science, show us the science to back up the landing on the moon , ??? |
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"All you have done in the debate is perpetuate American excuses...I see no facts.
Ah, the great conspiracy theorist response to facts. Denounce them as cover up.
Each and every piece of “evidence” for the moon landing conspiracy are thoroughly debunked.
Whats your proof they happened."
Huge, multiple missions, even after they’d achieved it!
The Astronauts that went.
The multiple, global tracking stations.
The samples
The mirrors left on the moon
The Chinese revisit a couple of years ago
The thousand upon thousands of people plus supply chain who haven’t ‘come out’ about it.
Are you telling me the flimsy hoaxer ‘evidence’ is more likely than any of the above? Seriously?
It’s a bit like asking ‘prove atoms exist’. You or I can’t do it, but like anything In life, you look at the evidence, and in the case of the moon, the evidence for is an order of many magnitudes greater than the debunked hoaxer nonsense. |
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"I can tell from your mentioning of many conspiracy theories that this is your hot subject over a few pints down the Winchester with the lads.
It was fun but it's gotten tired now.
Nope, but I don’t just take my knowledge from a 15 min YouTube video. I’m a scientific engineer so have an interest in stuff like this, and how disinformation spreads.
I see debate isn’t actually for you after all. I just wondered if you were susceptible to those other conspiracy theories as often it indicates whether the debate is worth having or you’re already an ‘expert’.
Have a good Hogmanay. "
you believe in it so anyone with a differing opinion gets there info from social media.
you try to make out that the scientists all agree it happened which simply isnt the case there are as many "proofs" of it not happening as there are it did. |
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"All the missions i have no doubt really happened, launched from earth and landed back on earth etc etc but the landing on the moon part is easily faked like a good Spielberg movie. "
Right. So you believe they figured out all the hard parts, but faked the relatively easy part?
I can understand someone first seeing the conspiracy bullshit and being drawn in. What I can’t understand are presumably reasonably intelligent people still believing it after taking any time to read any of the debunking stuff.
And this demanding proof is nonsense - you are the one claiming it’s a conspiracy, so the onus is on you to disprove it.
It’s a bit like me claiming the earth is flat, and then asking you to prove it isn’t. |
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"I can tell from your mentioning of many conspiracy theories that this is your hot subject over a few pints down the Winchester with the lads.
It was fun but it's gotten tired now.
Nope, but I don’t just take my knowledge from a 15 min YouTube video. I’m a scientific engineer so have an interest in stuff like this, and how disinformation spreads.
I see debate isn’t actually for you after all. I just wondered if you were susceptible to those other conspiracy theories as often it indicates whether the debate is worth having or you’re already an ‘expert’.
Have a good Hogmanay. you believe in it so anyone with a differing opinion gets there info from social media.
you try to make out that the scientists all agree it happened which simply isnt the case there are as many "proofs" of it not happening as there are it did."
There really aren’t you know...
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"Because you choose not to believe them I mean its not like governments lie "
No because everything in life isn’t a lie, and as has been said the weight of evidence for is far, far greater than some pseudo science about radiation or photographic science.
Unfortunately we live in an age whereby ‘belief’ has come to trump actual facts and science. Pun intended. |
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"Lol actual facts alllllllrighty then
Good argument, well made."
you cant argue with someones eyes are closed to anything other than what they believe it would make no diffrence to your belief if nasa said yup you caught us it was a hoax you would simply argue the"facts" prove it did happen lol |
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"Lol actual facts alllllllrighty then
Good argument, well made.you cant argue with someones eyes are closed to anything other than what they believe it would make no diffrence to your belief if nasa said yup you caught us it was a hoax you would simply argue the"facts" prove it did happen lol"
Eyes closed? How on earth does your rhetoric prove this enormous venture didn’t actually happen? Seriously? What’s your smoking gun?
Debate isn’t sticking your finger in your ears and squealing that other people somehow aren’t seeing what you see. If you really believe it, fair enough, but honestly, the evidence is far and away against you and your ‘gut feel’ about Governments doesn’t really cut it now does it?
I’m trying not to take the piss bit you’re not making it easy.... |
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Please, explain to me how anyone’s eyes are closed to all the evidence that man walked on the moon. It’s really not that far away from us you know, so why on earth(!). You’re the one saying it’s ‘fake’ based on....what exactly? Your years of studying the ‘evidence’ against? |
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"Lol actual facts alllllllrighty then
Good argument, well made.you cant argue with someones eyes are closed to anything other than what they believe it would make no diffrence to your belief if nasa said yup you caught us it was a hoax you would simply argue the"facts" prove it did happen lol"
But they haven’t said that, and no-one, Russians, Chinese or whomever has any evidence against it either. Your arrogant presumptions about ‘belief’ don’t really do you any favours, and that statement is a bit silly isn’t it... |
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"Lol actual facts alllllllrighty then
Good argument, well made.you cant argue with someones eyes are closed to anything other than what they believe it would make no diffrence to your belief if nasa said yup you caught us it was a hoax you would simply argue the"facts" prove it did happen lol
Eyes closed? How on earth does your rhetoric prove this enormous venture didn’t actually happen? Seriously? What’s your smoking gun?
Debate isn’t sticking your finger in your ears and squealing that other people somehow aren’t seeing what you see. If you really believe it, fair enough, but honestly, the evidence is far and away against you and your ‘gut feel’ about Governments doesn’t really cut it now does it?
I’m trying not to take the piss bit you’re not making it easy...."
im not the one sticking my fingers in my ears you keep saying about these"facts" who substantiated these facts and this is why some chose to believe there are other possibilities its like nasa showing pictures of the earth........which are infact an artists impression apparently from reading data |
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over a year ago
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Its strange how the planned 2004 return to the moon was going to take 16 years ie 2020 mission was shelved.
Then the next plan for 2022 cancelled. The reason unknown, probable reason lack of funding. Now trump has said ha wants a manned mission to the moon, no lack of funding or expertise so lets see if it happens. Maybe trump though fake news and decided to say prove you can do it AGAIN .
Edinburgh you said the onus on me is to prove it never happened as im saying conspiracy. Im not saying conspiracy im saying they are lying that it ever happened. Other than self evidence and a few people saying they done it thats not science bud. Hearsay at best. |
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"Its strange how the planned 2004 return to the moon was going to take 16 years ie 2020 mission was shelved.
Then the next plan for 2022 cancelled. The reason unknown, probable reason lack of funding. Now trump has said ha wants a manned mission to the moon, no lack of funding or expertise so lets see if it happens. Maybe trump though fake news and decided to say prove you can do it AGAIN .
Edinburgh you said the onus on me is to prove it never happened as im saying conspiracy. Im not saying conspiracy im saying they are lying that it ever happened. Other than self evidence and a few people saying they done it thats not science bud. Hearsay at best."
So just to be clear, you are saying...
that the given reason of lack of funding for more missions to the moon is suspicious, rather than perfectly plausible?
that it isn’t a conspiracy theory, it’s just people “lying that it ever happened”, even though the later is the actual definition of the former?
that there isn’t actually any evidence of the moon landings, just “hearsay at best” that it happened?
Sweet Jesus. |
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"Its strange how the planned 2004 return to the moon was going to take 16 years ie 2020 mission was shelved.
Then the next plan for 2022 cancelled. The reason unknown, probable reason lack of funding. Now trump has said ha wants a manned mission to the moon, no lack of funding or expertise so lets see if it happens. Maybe trump though fake news and decided to say prove you can do it AGAIN .
Edinburgh you said the onus on me is to prove it never happened as im saying conspiracy. Im not saying conspiracy im saying they are lying that it ever happened. Other than self evidence and a few people saying they done it thats not science bud. Hearsay at best.
So just to be clear, you are saying...
that the given reason of lack of funding for more missions to the moon is suspicious, rather than perfectly plausible?
that it isn’t a conspiracy theory, it’s just people “lying that it ever happened”, even though the later is the actual definition of the former?
that there isn’t actually any evidence of the moon landings, just “hearsay at best” that it happened?
Sweet Jesus. "
well done your starting to understand your "facts" may just be lies |
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I'm missing the point bug time here but really couldn't go e a shit about the moon landings or trips to explore other planets. Can we not have a wee go sorting out all the shite down here first before we go fucking up someone else's planet! |
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I just watched a science documentary where they bounced a laser of a reflective surface on the moon which proves man landed
*disclaimer*
The science documentary may have been the big bang theory |
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"I'm missing the point bug time here but really couldn't go e a shit about the moon landings or trips to explore other planets. Can we not have a wee go sorting out all the shite down here first before we go fucking up someone else's planet!"
For the record dafty . The moons not a planet and its not someone elses its the yanks. They first set foot on it ( apparantly ) even sticking a flag on it . Actually at the start of independence day the alien craft passes by the moon , i never seen any flag on it , surely to keep the american continuity, Spielberg would have shown the flag there just for a bit of authenticity purposes. |
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"I'm missing the point bug time here but really couldn't go e a shit about the moon landings or trips to explore other planets. Can we not have a wee go sorting out all the shite down here first before we go fucking up someone else's planet!
For the record dafty . The moons not a planet and its not someone elses its the yanks. They first set foot on it ( apparantly ) even sticking a flag on it . Actually at the start of independence day the alien craft passes by the moon , i never seen any flag on it , surely to keep the american continuity, Spielberg would have shown the flag there just for a bit of authenticity purposes. "
Fucking Dafty??
You don't like having testicles, do you?.....or kneecaps....? |
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"I'm missing the point bug time here but really couldn't go e a shit about the moon landings or trips to explore other planets. Can we not have a wee go sorting out all the shite down here first before we go fucking up someone else's planet!
For the record dafty . The moons not a planet and its not someone elses its the yanks. They first set foot on it ( apparantly ) even sticking a flag on it . Actually at the start of independence day the alien craft passes by the moon , i never seen any flag on it , surely to keep the american continuity, Spielberg would have shown the flag there just for a bit of authenticity purposes.
Fucking Dafty??
You don't like having testicles, do you?.....or kneecaps....? "
Remember ,sitting on your hands is a good thing |
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"I'm missing the point bug time here but really couldn't go e a shit about the moon landings or trips to explore other planets. Can we not have a wee go sorting out all the shite down here first before we go fucking up someone else's planet!
For the record dafty . The moons not a planet and its not someone elses its the yanks. They first set foot on it ( apparantly ) even sticking a flag on it . Actually at the start of independence day the alien craft passes by the moon , i never seen any flag on it , surely to keep the american continuity, Spielberg would have shown the flag there just for a bit of authenticity purposes.
Fucking Dafty??
You don't like having testicles, do you?.....or kneecaps....? "
Nuts are surplus to requirements nowadays. And kneecaps are only good for doing it doggy style and i certainly dont take it doggy style or any other style for that matter. |
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"Are you a conspiracy theorist and if so whats your biggest conspiracy theory and why.
Tesco clubcard and or any other reward cards
Information passed onto the government and nhs in order to gather information about healthy eating alcohol consumption and smoking habits
Reduce the nhs bill for transplants and operations for those individuals who have abused their bodies with over consumption and poor health choices
So who is privvy to this information within a hospital and makes the decision not to give a person an operation due to his or her lifestyle. Violet. ?
It’s merely a theoretical idea although I do know the government have got access
Access to everything we buy in Tesco?
What nonsense "
Actually.. I don't want to scare you but... If you use your clubcard, use online shopping and deliveries etc All that information is saved and used to recommend your favourites, print targeted vouchers etc. They also BOUGHT a company to analyse and sell the data they gather from us. In 2011 Dunnhumby, the company they bought made £53 million profit from analysing and selling on marketing data gleaned from the clubcard system. The Government could buy it freely, however they also have R.E.P.A (Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act) which means at any point they can commandeer that data without anyone knowing any the wiser.
So yes, technically the government has access to everything we buy in Tesco. |
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"I'm missing the point bug time here but really couldn't go e a shit about the moon landings or trips to explore other planets. Can we not have a wee go sorting out all the shite down here first before we go fucking up someone else's planet!"
Yes, i'm anti space programme too. We have hardly even explored this planet nevermind sending jeans and James Doohan's ashes to litter space. What about underwater habitats, exploring the oceans etc. (i believe i mentioned on another thread how much I wanted to live on Seaquest ) |
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"Are you a conspiracy theorist and if so whats your biggest conspiracy theory and why.
Tesco clubcard and or any other reward cards
Information passed onto the government and nhs in order to gather information about healthy eating alcohol consumption and smoking habits
Reduce the nhs bill for transplants and operations for those individuals who have abused their bodies with over consumption and poor health choices
So who is privvy to this information within a hospital and makes the decision not to give a person an operation due to his or her lifestyle. Violet. ?
It’s merely a theoretical idea although I do know the government have got access
Access to everything we buy in Tesco?
What nonsense
Actually.. I don't want to scare you but... If you use your clubcard, use online shopping and deliveries etc All that information is saved and used to recommend your favourites, print targeted vouchers etc. They also BOUGHT a company to analyse and sell the data they gather from us. In 2011 Dunnhumby, the company they bought made £53 million profit from analysing and selling on marketing data gleaned from the clubcard system. The Government could buy it freely, however they also have R.E.P.A (Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act) which means at any point they can commandeer that data without anyone knowing any the wiser.
So yes, technically the government has access to everything we buy in Tesco."
I remember reading this somewhere too....luckily I only but vegetarian sausages from Tesco so fuck knows what their wee file says about me |
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"Are you a conspiracy theorist and if so whats your biggest conspiracy theory and why.
Tesco clubcard and or any other reward cards
Information passed onto the government and nhs in order to gather information about healthy eating alcohol consumption and smoking habits
Reduce the nhs bill for transplants and operations for those individuals who have abused their bodies with over consumption and poor health choices
So who is privvy to this information within a hospital and makes the decision not to give a person an operation due to his or her lifestyle. Violet. ?
It’s merely a theoretical idea although I do know the government have got access
Access to everything we buy in Tesco?
What nonsense
Actually.. I don't want to scare you but... If you use your clubcard, use online shopping and deliveries etc All that information is saved and used to recommend your favourites, print targeted vouchers etc. They also BOUGHT a company to analyse and sell the data they gather from us. In 2011 Dunnhumby, the company they bought made £53 million profit from analysing and selling on marketing data gleaned from the clubcard system. The Government could buy it freely, however they also have R.E.P.A (Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act) which means at any point they can commandeer that data without anyone knowing any the wiser.
So yes, technically the government has access to everything we buy in Tesco.
I remember reading this somewhere too....luckily I only but vegetarian sausages from Tesco so fuck knows what their wee file says about me "
its apparently "fact" that the packaging tastes better than the product |
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"Its strange how the planned 2004 return to the moon was going to take 16 years ie 2020 mission was shelved.
Then the next plan for 2022 cancelled. The reason unknown, probable reason lack of funding. Now trump has said ha wants a manned mission to the moon, no lack of funding or expertise so lets see if it happens. Maybe trump though fake news and decided to say prove you can do it AGAIN .
Edinburgh you said the onus on me is to prove it never happened as im saying conspiracy. Im not saying conspiracy im saying they are lying that it ever happened. Other than self evidence and a few people saying they done it thats not science bud. Hearsay at best."
I never said that about onus. Someone else did.
However, you’re wrong, and as we head into 2019, it’s all a bit tragic really. Education has failed, ‘other opinions’ are given equal weight even when up against crushing evidence.
‘Other than self evidence and a few people saying they done it thats not science bud.’. Let’s just leave that belter hanging there...
Happy New Year! Keep watching those YouTube vids. |
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